Heya buddy what was the outcome of the run time difference between the 2.0 and the 3.0 some feed back would be greatly appreciated. I’m not sure if you buy the m12 3.0 or the m12 5.0 or even upgrade to the 3.0 m18 with adapter
I love Milwaukee but with the 3.0 compact doesn’t seem to last for more than 20 charges, lasts me only about 6 months, my old 2.0’s several years old are still working. I like using 3.0 in my m12 FUEL surge impact and heated jacket.
Those batteries are pretty easy to open up. There are two tabs on the bottom to pop off the clip portion and the cells should be able to be removed from there. Any way you could open one up and get the model number of the cell they are using? Iv'e seen so many claims of people saying their tools have more power with these but it really doesn't add up. Sure you will get a longer duration of use but my guess is they are using LG HG2 cells possibly Sony VTC6A cells which have a max drain of 20 continued amps which would be the lowest drain of any of their batteries currently for sale. As far as bare tool performance goes (battery life aside) these would preform worse than any other milwaukee battery pack.
actually the new batteries slip right out the bottom. take out the bottom single screw, unclip the black base, push in & down on the center charging tabs and out comes the batteries easy as F. BTW the batteries are actually 10.8 volts each cell is 3.6 volts, M12 marketing BS full of lies and everyone does it. I might be upgrading my 2.0 to 3.0's
tried the new compact 3.0 lion with an old brushed drill. Kinda disappointed. Seems as if these new batteries are made spec for fuel m12 products. On a first gen brushed drill there is a delay when pulling the trigger, feels as if there is not enough amp draw to turn the brushed motor. On high demand brushless tools it works fine! but stick these packs in an older brushed model and its disappointing. To me, looks like milwaukee went for cheaper li-ion cells to save cost since brushless motors are more efficient these days. My older 2.0 pack has much better response/ punch than these new 3.0 cells on my brushed drill.
I don't know what cells they use but they won't be cheap. The problem is that generally with lithium batteries the higher capacity of the cell the lower the drain rate. This is of course varies depending on the quality of the cell, but for any of their tools it's likely that they need a bare minimum of a 20 amp continuous supply and there are only a few 18650's on the market that can provide both 3ah of life and 20amps. The main two (which are likely to be in this battery) are the LGHG2 and the Sony VTC6A. Both very high quality cells and both give 20amps continuous. The problems is when you look at their other batteries. Their 2.0ah m12 compact battery has Samsung 20R cells which, although only have a rated capacity for 2 amp hours, can provide 22 amps continuously, and their new 6.0ah pack uses Samsung 30Q cells which are of course rated for a capacity of 3ah they are only rated for 15 amps continuous however these battery packs use 3 additional cells in parallel, which not doubles the battery life to 6ah but also doubles the amount of amps the battery can supply continuously to 30 amps. Also note that it is possible that milwaukee is using the same Samsung 30Q cells in the 3.0ah compact battery as they use in their 6.0ah m12. This would mean that you would only see 15 amps from them tops and might further explain their poor performance. It may be worth noting that none of the mentioned cells are cheap or low quality by any means.
George Wahlers that's a fake study with zero data connected to it and it's been years since that fake study that everyone just automatically assumed was true circulated
Is there a pterodactyl in the background and they have not come a long way they are just buying batteries from big manufacturers I think Samsung and they are just buying bigger better batteries they do have to weigh amps vs amp hours because they could easily put out a 3.5Ah but if it can safely deliver the amps to running tools there is no point
Na not with lithium batteries, your thinking of older nicad cordless tool batteries, they would kind of have like a memory they called it, and you would make sure you ran them till they were totally out of juice and then charge them fully. Lithium batteries can be recharged at any point and it's best to keep them charged up fully if you use them often. lithium batterys actually like alot of use instead of just setting around. But when you store them for extended amounts of time you want to have them at around 30 to 50% charge. Just keep them outa super hot or cold weather and your good to go👍 google it homie 😁
Well how about some relevant data like run time on the 3.0 vs 1.5?
Heya buddy what was the outcome of the run time difference between the 2.0 and the 3.0 some feed back would be greatly appreciated. I’m not sure if you buy the m12 3.0 or the m12 5.0 or even upgrade to the 3.0 m18 with adapter
Even the bird was cringing while you were hacking at trying to get the package open.
I love Milwaukee but with the 3.0 compact doesn’t seem to last for more than 20 charges, lasts me only about 6 months, my old 2.0’s several years old are still working. I like using 3.0 in my m12 FUEL surge impact and heated jacket.
If that’s the case you know they have a 3 year warranty:)
Just curious how you managed to sneak a pterodactyl off the island, through customs, and into your back yard? Just kidding....lol nice video.
thought you were asking him about drugs
Is the 3.0 xc too big to use for heated gear?
The compact 3.0 is the same size as the 2.0 and 1.5.
@@toolstech9630 No I said the 3.0 XC not CP.
@@nsxproperties560 while standing, you can’t feel it. Once you sit down you have to be conscious about how hard you sit, you might hurt your self!
Now we just need a 6.0 the size of the 2.0. I bet within a few years or so we will have it at the rate everything is going.
Excuse the bird that’s getting torture
Those batteries are pretty easy to open up. There are two tabs on the bottom to pop off the clip portion and the cells should be able to be removed from there. Any way you could open one up and get the model number of the cell they are using? Iv'e seen so many claims of people saying their tools have more power with these but it really doesn't add up. Sure you will get a longer duration of use but my guess is they are using LG HG2 cells possibly Sony VTC6A cells which have a max drain of 20 continued amps which would be the lowest drain of any of their batteries currently for sale. As far as bare tool performance goes (battery life aside) these would preform worse than any other milwaukee battery pack.
actually the new batteries slip right out the bottom. take out the bottom single screw, unclip the black base, push in & down on the center charging tabs and out comes the batteries easy as F. BTW the batteries are actually 10.8 volts each cell is 3.6 volts, M12 marketing BS full of lies and everyone does it.
I might be upgrading my 2.0 to 3.0's
Hey how much longer does the 3.0 last compared to the 2.0 using the heated jacket
gordon taylor I'm instrested 2. I can't no hard info anywhere
jeff s guys I'll be coming out with a more informative video. I've been really busy.
Man you had a hard time opening that package!
Good vid just need to add a note, do not use the serrated part of knife to cut plastic son lol
tried the new compact 3.0 lion with an old brushed drill. Kinda disappointed. Seems as if these new batteries are made spec for fuel m12 products. On a first gen brushed drill there is a delay when pulling the trigger, feels as if there is not enough amp draw to turn the brushed motor. On high demand brushless tools it works fine! but stick these packs in an older brushed model and its disappointing.
To me, looks like milwaukee went for cheaper li-ion cells to save cost since brushless motors are more efficient these days.
My older 2.0 pack has much better response/ punch than these new 3.0 cells on my brushed drill.
I don't know what cells they use but they won't be cheap. The problem is that generally with lithium batteries the higher capacity of the cell the lower the drain rate. This is of course varies depending on the quality of the cell, but for any of their tools it's likely that they need a bare minimum of a 20 amp continuous supply and there are only a few 18650's on the market that can provide both 3ah of life and 20amps. The main two (which are likely to be in this battery) are the LGHG2 and the Sony VTC6A. Both very high quality cells and both give 20amps continuous.
The problems is when you look at their other batteries. Their 2.0ah m12 compact battery has Samsung 20R cells which, although only have a rated capacity for 2 amp hours, can provide 22 amps continuously, and their new 6.0ah pack uses Samsung 30Q cells which are of course rated for a capacity of 3ah they are only rated for 15 amps continuous however these battery packs use 3 additional cells in parallel, which not doubles the battery life to 6ah but also doubles the amount of amps the battery can supply continuously to 30 amps.
Also note that it is possible that milwaukee is using the same Samsung 30Q cells in the 3.0ah compact battery as they use in their 6.0ah m12. This would mean that you would only see 15 amps from them tops and might further explain their poor performance.
It may be worth noting that none of the mentioned cells are cheap or low quality by any means.
Pet bird dying 😂
😂
lol wtf kinda bird is that. how do you handle that.
dude you need to sharpen thgat knife or get the fastback 2
no they store batteries at half charge because it's bad to storm fully charged
George Wahlers that's a fake study with zero data connected to it and it's been years since that fake study that everyone just automatically assumed was true circulated
Explain Eneloop sanyo rechargeable lithium batteries then. Comes full charge if new and holds 80% of max charge for years. They're sold full charge.
Great increase in size
That's what my new GF said when we first made love.
Is there a pterodactyl in the background and they have not come a long way they are just buying batteries from big manufacturers I think Samsung and they are just buying bigger better batteries they do have to weigh amps vs amp hours because they could easily put out a 3.5Ah but if it can safely deliver the amps to running tools there is no point
show us ur pet bird!!
thats because it lithium you need to use it until its dead shuts off then fully charge it
Na not with lithium batteries, your thinking of older nicad cordless tool batteries, they would kind of have like a memory they called it, and you would make sure you ran them till they were totally out of juice and then charge them fully. Lithium batteries can be recharged at any point and it's best to keep them charged up fully if you use them often. lithium batterys actually like alot of use instead of just setting around. But when you store them for extended amounts of time you want to have them at around 30 to 50% charge. Just keep them outa super hot or cold weather and your good to go👍 google it homie 😁
Bigger is better and guys I'm just so big