“Imagine your favorite franchise. Now imagine its next mainline series entry as a racing game.” Man, Banjo-kazooie fans don’t need to imagine this. They lived it.
I'm waiting on Naughty Dog to pull through on their tried and tested formula We got Crash Team Racing and Jak X Now where's Unkarted and The Fast of Us?
To be fair, director Cory Barlog did admit that Atreus' sudden arrogant turn upon finding out he's a god would have happened over a longer period of time, but because this section of the plot had been trimmed and reorganized it meant his character development was unable to progress more naturally.
@@ImortalZeus13 You mean fantastic for the most part with flaws that can be explained with time constraints? Yeah. Sometimes cuts WILL happen. Unfortunately it messed with the pacing in a single portion of this game.
@@heckingbamboozled8097 "flaws that can be explained with time constraints" like the entire game industry? Nobody wants to actively make a bad game , those are result of time/budget/staff constraints but THEY ARE NOT EXCUSED. Otherwise we should just accept every single garbage game because "i'm sure they have flaws that can be explained". God of war has many problems and some of them are also bad game design.
@@gianlucaangeli You wanna be mad? Be mad at the hotshots up top. They don't care about the game, they want profit. The devs got no choice about how long they have to make this game. We can only thank the lords that this game can actually be played and is not a buggy mess at first launch who needs a 100 Gb first day patch to even have it work.
1:53:07 This isn't necessarily an important comment but Mimir says, "Beautiful, isn't it?" it's because he's already seen it and he knows what it looks like already so he's commenting to Kratos and Atreus who haven't seen it. There was really no point in me debunking that nitpick but I just wanted to get it off my chest.
@@Just_a_Snake It's not that big of a deal, really. A fair chunk of his video is truly high quality game critique. But in this one point, it is a sign of someone looking for superficial nits to scratch at. I don't like it but it doesn't detract from the quality of the video as a whole.
The only major Greek gods that would have the ability to or want to take revenge upon Kratos still would be Artemis and MAYBE her twin brother Apollo. We know Art is vengeful because of her myths and we get her hunting blade in GOW1 and we get Apollo's bow in 3 except not from him, so maybe he's already dead since Helios is still the God of the Sun when Zues put Apollo in that position due to shenanigans with Helios and his son (which disappeared because of Zues leaving him in a depression.) and the rest of the gods and beings probably want to rebuild and take the powers and titles of the dead gods. I really hope at least one of them show up and give Odin and Thor the tea on Kratos after you have an encounter or two with them and they team up on you.
@@SentientHoodii what I meant is that the developers already used all the cool Greek stuff for the previous games so they didn't have a lot of intersting things to show in Ascension.
@@JM-vl3cy the Furies are an integral part of the Greek Myths. And Hecatoncheires is one of the backbones of the overthrow of the Titans along with the other Centimanes. Though besides hinting at the Primordials and some oracle stuff yeah. Least of the interesting myth stuff.
12:16 - He got his full godhood back by absorbing the soul of Hades when he kills him (used Hades' Soul Hooks to do it). It was even part of the game mechanics as you needed "the soul of a god to use an Hyperion Gate" as Hephaestus said. And after absorbing the the soul of Hades he could use the Hyperion gates as his full godhood had returned (and pretty sure the game even throws up a text saying this exact thing to let you know you can now use the Hyperion Gates and why).
Joseph: "Imagine your favorite series" Me: "Okay" Joseph: "Now imagine it as a racing game" Me: *"In the Age of Ancients the world was unformed, shrouded by fog. A land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons. But then there was Engines and with engines came disparity. Heat and cold, driving and crashing, and of course, winning and losing. Then from the dark, They came, and found the Karts of Lords within the flame. Nito, the First of the Crashed, The Biker Gang of Izalith and her Daughters of Chaos, Gwyn, the Racing Champion of Sunlight, and his faithful fanclub. And the Last Place Pygmy, so easily forgotten.* *With the strength of the Karts, they challenged the Dragons. Gwyn's mighty Electric cars peeled on their stone racetracks. The Biker Gangsters weaved great firestorms with their engines. Nito unleashed a miasma of destruction and crashing. And Seath the Kart-less betrayed his own, and the Dragons were no more.* *Thus began the Age of Fire. But soon the flames will fade and only Dark will remain. Even now there are only embers, and man sees not light, but only endless nights. And amongst the living are seen, carriers of the accursed Darksign.* *Yes, indeed. The Darksign brands the Undriven. And in this land, the Undriven are corralled and led to the north, where they are locked away, to await the end of the world... This is your fate.* *Only, in the ancient legends it is stated, that one day an undriven shall be chosen to leave the undriven asylum, in pilgrimage, to race to the land of ancient lords, 200cc Star Cup."*
Losing his second wife really had an effect on him. I had my wife die and I can tell you that those movie cliches are really true: I did not know I could feel that bad mentally. I was in effect in a bubble with me and the world having a kind of sound-proof wall between us. If he went through that TWICE, I do indeed believe that he would have a totally different view on life, having to raise his son all by himself, no matter how much he wants to just curl up and die (again), even though he is probably now realizing that he has been cursed with eternal life, no matter how much he might want to permanently kill himself.
Digging up the blades of chaos is my all time favourite gaming moment. I avoided all spoilers like the plague so that moment was so hype for me it was unreal.
1. Adding up the total amount of time spent watching the animations that play when you get a moon in Odyssey isn’t thorough research. It’s nitpicking. 2. Getting noticeably upset that critics gave a perfect score to a game, is being irrational and emotional. Because, if he’s secure about his lower scores, why do other people’s high scores bother him so much? They are all opinions, and there’s are just as valid. He can’t have it both ways. 3. Praising games for being “greater than the sum of their parts,” while at the same time, bashing a game for every single tiny flaw (such as the length of a freaking moon animation), is not rational. At best, it’s inconsistent. Then, after everything I mentioned, he calls -other- people fragile, many of which are subscribers? He can’t be serious. Look into a mirror and take the time to listen to yourself. Keep in mind, he’s still one of my favorite game reviewers. But the fragile comment just pisses me off. It’s a d-bag thing to say. He’s the epitome of fragile.
1- When your game is based entirely on picking up an item, you better make sure that said item picks up quickly or you reduce the number of items to pick up. By taking this info out of context, sure, that's the pinnacle of nitpicking, but by putting it back with the point he was trying to make you realise that it's not that bad. His point being that there are way too many moons for it to have such a long animation upon pick up AND having most of them throw you back to the last checkpoint. It's an unnecessary waste of time, which he intended to prove with what you mentioned here. Did he have to do it ? No, he could just show a couple of animations in a row and show us why it's bad, but he chose to go further and calculate the exact time that is wasted in pick up animation in the game. I really don't see the problem here, he just backed up his claim with actual research. 2- I didn't see him being legitimately upset about the game getting 10/10s, all he said was that he didn't understand the praise it was getting. It was the same with Zelda, he didn't understand the 10/10s and wasn't upset about them, he just brought them up to provide context, nothing more. If you chose to interpret it as being "upset", well, I won't take that away from you I guess, you're allowed to feel however you want to feel. But disagreeing with something doesn't equate being upset about it. 3- Greater than the sum of its parts litterally means that each individual part of the game has problems but they all fit together nicely to give something special in the end. He then proceeded to criticise each individual part, which he already established had problems, I really don't see what's inconsistent here. 4- Why the hell did you think this was a topic worth bringing up under this particular comment anyway ? Not that I care, but I found it strange that you chose to leech on another person's comment in order to criticise him, that just comes accross as petty.
@@flimpeenflarmpoon1353 well he wants to play the games anyway. Not sure if he actually WANTS to read the books but maybe. But yeah the project is going to be so fucking massive even if the video is amazing im not sure the time investment wouldnt be better used on other things
Kratos' terrible stories are Aesop's fables. Tortoise and the hare, fox and the sour grapes, the toad and the scorpion. Aesop was a Greek teacher/storyteller from the Hellenistic period. So Kratos is passing on tales from his world, the Greek world, to his son. It's not the stories that are terrible, it's how he tells them that is terrible and truly hilarious.
i think he's implying that if they make the revenants fly, then they'd also take his suggestion of giving Kratos the ability to jump... thus allowing him to effectively deal with them without making revenants even more annoying than they are, just differently annoying
Just an interesting note, but the original idea for God of War 3/4 (I forget which) was that Kratos met up with Norse-Universe Kratos-equivalent and Persian/Mayan/Japanese-universe (I forget which) Kratos-equivalent after they all killed their own pantheons and they become the three wise men. Yes, THE three wise men. You know, the ones that bring gifts to THE JESUS? I want to read that script so bad.
this was funny to me because i already thought to myself "my favorite game already is a racing game" then he commented on it and now i have to imagine a dirt rally JRPG
It's funny that I'm watching this video today after Cory Balrog just said that the reason you fight a troll in Helheim instead of this big bird is because of performance and budget.
Raising Kratos makes it clear that this game really came together close to deadline and a lot of stuff had to be rushed to make date. AAA gamedev is like laying track while the train is moving, it's a miracle ANY of them ever come out even half-good.
Man, AAA deadlines are the worst. These companies make more than enough to give devs half a year extra on every game and they really should. With pre-orders and all the other stupid monetizing bullshit, the least they could do is actually spend that money on improving the working conditions and the deadlines for their devs. Not that I know whether the specific company behind this game is guilty of this, but it's definitely true in general
+El Duderino I love CD Projekt Red. Theyre one of the few bigger dev teams that i think still cares about their craft. They dont want you to buy their games, they want you to ENJOY their games. Not to mention the Witcher 3 DLC that was massive (and really good) for its price. Cyberpunk hype.
I had no knowledge of the original three games, and I think your point about Atreus is so spot-on. It actually makes me appreciate this game so much more, it’s absolutely genius to use context to help the player sympathize with one protagonist more than the other.
The Crazy Witcher During this video he mentioned that he wasn't sure how to pronounce "Idunn apple" (the health upgrade item in the game) He played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 a while back, and that game was infamous for having WAY too much combat dialogue. Specifically, enemy soldiers would constantly say "YOU'RE DONE!", "Don't forget me!" and "Think you can take me?!?"
Joseph 51:28 "...Please don't let Thor show up, break the leviathan axe, leave Kratos half dead, and make the player regain his power." I feel like they are gonna do exactly that. Edit: Yeah yeah yeah. So they didn't break the axe. Whatever. But you still have to go through a damn skill tree AGAIN to get to the good stuffs from the previous game. And the 'good stuffs' ain't even as good as they used to be btw. But that's a whole topic for another time.
@@gyrozeppeli00 his whole point is that Kratos shouldn't start off GoW 2 back at level 1, that he should start off with the full list of powers he has from this game.
33:04 i barely knew anything about Kratos when i bought GOW 2018 and this opening was enough to endear me to him - he's a gigantic tattooed scarred man, who caresses a tree with a handprint, which is a strange act of fondness, something i realized even when i had no idea what he was about. it's clear it means something to him, and the fact that he gets angrier as he cuts it down tells me that there's more behind the tree than it just being that then when he talks to Atreus - he's blunt, quiet, but has a booming voice that makes you want to listen when he DOES speak. i was drawn in immediately, and the devs did an awesome job
GoW 3 got me into the series solely because of how violently kratos rampaged through the entire pantheon. Sigh, i needed an outlet like that when i was 6
spartttan1337 I assume you’re probably talking about Helios? And that wasn’t really a feat.. since he had the power to kill a skyfather with him the whole time lol if it was just kratos? No weapons.. no Pandora’s box? He wouldn’t even stand a chance against Hercules. He was nearly killed by a barbarian in his early days. And if you did mean Apollo you may have to remind me. Kratos has killed a lot of different popular people and gods from Greece lol
@@jam5287 whichever one was the speedy boyo where he cuts his legs off and steals his boots, after smacking the shit out of him. It was either hermes or apollo?
14:50 simple but hard to miss answer, Kratos was cursed to be invulnerable to suicide, so him killing himself would quickly be undone, so he still released the hope, but just reverted to life almost immediately afterwards.
Well his not just invulnerable to suicide, his invulnerable even in the sense if atreus dies and he has nothing to live for and he lets him self killed by thor this is still consider an attempt at ending his life. And he will die over and over until his going to kill thor. This works only if kratos is the strongest in the whole universe which at this point its true if you consider everything. So is not only to suicide. And no one can out power him. Edit: and no one can out power him yet* Sooo his the strongest in the whole universe based on overpowering everyone he faced.
Weren't the blades of chaos attached to Kratos and only could be removed either by the God of War himself or when the wielder's time of servitude ended? Then Kratos killed Ares and the curse broke. This means any Greek curse should've disappeared when Kratos killed all of them
"imagine your favorite series as a racing game" geralt wearing his witcher suit, sitting in a need for speed supercar, yelling "damn, you're ugly" at everyone while triss sits beside him going "well?"
I've watched/listened to this video so many times, but I just realized how flawless the transitions were at 9:53 to 10:05 Editing perfection, and it suits the point hemakes in that moment perfectly.
On the enemies being less aggressive while they're off screen: TONS of games do this, notably Resident Evil 4, but even Doom 2016. It's more of a problem that you noticed it than that it's a feature. "Invisible design" or something.
@Banuner dark souls spoiled me by not treating me like a child while I was a child and now every time something like Pokemon Let's Go comes out my eyes glaze over more
Uhm, on what difficulty have you played this game? Also, I think you are completely wrong when it comes to GoW as the game has implemented in its self the notification system that you're being attacked from your blind spots, visually by that arrow and audibly by Atreus, also you have a key binding for fast turn so you instantly turn. If you play more you'll notice that the AI does its thing while you don't face it. I really don't know where you got all this from.
lol except the pinkies in Doom 2016, the number of times i've been killed by an off-screen pinky that rams into me unexpectedly would seem evidence enough for me. Which is why they're one of my favorite pieces of the combat puzzle, because its still telegraphed by their pig-like scream
Okay so, this was not only my first game in the series but it was the first game i had ever played. What impression did the opening given me? From the first scene with Kratos cutting the tree I immediately understood that this man has history. It was pretty obvious that he is overpowered for the task and the mundane way he was chopping that tree brilliantly catches you up with a few things. First, he is powerful but holding back (living differently now); and second, he is out of place. In a snowy forest sheltered by an abundance of trees and serenity Kratos with his deep voice and hardned demenour is someone who could not have been born and raised here. The little hut he lives in also pushes that narrative, that he is out of place. The furnishings and wooden plank construction are fragile in obvious comparison to kratos' own gear and it looks as if he could knock the house down with his bare hands, the house is figuratively temporary then. When you meet Atreus you understand that he is the one that is at home here but kratos and the boy are opposites reflected in a mirror. They show the potential to each become the other which is an indication for what is to come. But before that Atreus makes it clear how stressed or non existent thier relationship is. So yeah, i think the opening of the game does a fantastic job at showing you kratos' past and also what is to come in a very succinct way. It is powerful and a great cinematic scene.
Fun fact, the bird in the back of the so stated "worst let down" was actually supposed to be the boss you face in hell, but the developers ran out of time for that unfortunately
@@lemonmist2233 It would've cost more than their budget. Besides, they had a deadline. It's not like they can delay the game as much as they want. They have SONY breathing down their necks too. Also they changed the story of the bird. It actually helped Kratos and Atreus by flapping it's wings in order to help the ship go further.
In a perfect world, developers would have enough time and resources to make their perfect game without a publisher breathing down their necks. But this isn't a perfect world.
@Steven Murphy top five are 1. Dark Souls 2.Undertale 3. LoZ Ocarina of Time (mainly because it was the first game I ever beat so nostalgia) 4. Kingdom Hearts 5. Final Fantasy 7
I think that a lot of the "slower" sections of the game are meant to be "loading screens" so that the game has time to render the next part of the level. That's why there are so many parts where Kratos and Atreus have to climb a big wall, crawl through a low tunnel, etc. It's tedious, but not as bad as having loading screens every time you enter a new area.
The game is actually really smart with this, the reason some animations may take long or there are many slow areas is because it not only loads in the next area but It also de loads (idk what the word for that is) the past area making where you are now run way more smoothly
While playing, I never even thought of this, I thought it was a good way of getting around and making the journey seem more real. Maybe if I was doing a second playthrough, it could seem tedious, but initially, I was just awe struck by the whole game, especially after having played the original. I love how this game was more open to being able to explore and re-explore with the later gain of abilities. Plus, the conversations between destinations really made me slow down to listen and sometimes made me wait to continue as to not cut off dialogue.
"...That had the attention to detail and passion of an indie game swirling inside it" really hit the nail on the head there. I couldn't place it but that is a perfect articulation of what I was feeling
You have the ending of GoW3 wrong. When Athena revealed to Kratos that she placed her power of hope within the Box of Pandora, Kratos gives it back to the Greek people. Instead of giving this power back to Athena, Kratos used the Sword of Olympus not to kill himself, but to regain his Godly powers within the blade. This is why the Sword is dark after Athena pulls it out of Kratos, so to an extent Kratos got his power back but also lost a great amount by spreading Athena’s power to the people of Greece. What was really amazing though was that Kratos had hope within him the entire time as he always possessed the power of the Gods as Zeus’ son, and where his godly strength of Spartan rage stems from. Anyways, there’s so much to dive into, but that’s the brief of it lol.
See I thought so too at first, but why did Kratos not regain his godhood when Zeus stabbed him with the B of O back in GoW2? He just died then. Was it his own hand that could only give his powers back, inconsistancy or plain notgiveafuckery from the devs' part?
@@SfalmaTasFrenas probably something along the lines of because zeus was holding the blade he could absorb and hold onto the power. Similar to how Thor's hammer grants the power of Thor if your worthy, Zeus had Kratos' power as long as he held it. So when kratos stabs himself he gets his powers back because he's holding it and absorbing it back in.
Jason Lee James I believe you’re right, also because Kratos places his own powers within the blade that Zeus created. So in a sense Zeus was wielding Kratos’ power when he first killed him.
I wish the guy made more videos, but I understand why he doesn't, because he doesn't make "content", he offers worthwhile commentary. The use of "content" as a phrase seems innocuous, until you realize how it shapes thinking about media: as the filling of a bucket. And the "content" of a bucket can be anything. It can be gold, sand or dog dirt. If all you ask is more content to fill the bucket, you often won't get what you really want.
@@tetrafy70 imagine if you put lots of time into unlocking malus, the final one to race, and then you lose the race almost immediately because he doesn't move his legs
I always viewed it as Atreus’s anger and frustration at *both* of his parents (Kratos was the one lying, true, but Faye could’ve also told him the truth, too, but probably didn’t say anything to keep Kratos’ state of mind intact) manifesting itself into a rage not unlike Baldur with Freya or even a younger Kratos back in Greece with Zeus (especially the latter). If you thought your dad was cold and distant with you because he didn’t want to deal with his own problems head-on rather than simply “not wanting you” like you always presumed, I would get pissed off, too. But, yeah, man, that definitely makes sense, too. 🙄
Raymond Williams I always imagined that Kratos was in the beam of light for weeks if not months, leaving young Atraeus alone and abandoned to kill waves of these elves. His mother was already dead, his father just disappeared... Imagine that, during each wave of enemies, he thinks he sees his father in the light again. By the time he can get close enough to pull Kratos out, he vanished. Sisyphean task almost, and each failure feeding his rage as it would his father. He finally pulls his dad out, but that rage that kept him going had not subsided. That’s my head canon, at least. Anyone know how long Kratos was in the light?
It's a real testament to the quality of these vids how much I can disagree with the individual points but still love how well thought-out and defended they are. On a personal note, I will say that Atreus going rogue accurately captures a seven-year-old's ability to go from something you desperately want to protect to something you have to actively fight the urge to toss out a window. I think Kratos' restraint during these sections was a bit of storytelling by absence. Knowing the character, I had genuine anxiety during this section of the game that he would lose it.
Sorry for the necro. The axe physics were my first “next gen” moment on the PS4. It felt so fun when other games would just have it teleport back to you
I played this game as my first interaction with Kratos. I knew he came from Greek Mythology and I assumed he was the god of war based off the title. The games opening was one of the coolest experiences ever. It felt like I was a tamed monster and I had no idea what I could become.
This video is excellent. I love the attention to detail and research that went into analyzing both the merits and demerits of the game. It was fair-handed, and despite being analytical, it also felt relatable. Excellent work.
It has been over a decade since the world last heard word from Joseph Anderson. Since his disappearance, his critiques have become that of legend. During his absence the community that is game reviews has fallen into Chaos. IGN churns out review after review, a soulless wasteland of video game babble. When times look darkest, a glimmer of light shines... is it possible? Has our savior returned?
I am a new follower of the light of Anderson, but his spirit speaks even unto me. One day - hear me brother, I know this to be true, for I have seen it - we shall even see a Red Dead Redemption II review, and, if we make sacrifice and care for the widows and the orphan children, a Cyberpunk 2077 review. One day. Praise Anderson.
The leveling system is easily the worst part of this game. Kratos can survive a Valkyrie grinding his face into the ground but will eat shit instantly if a rotting zombie norseman hanging out on some bumfuck island so much as sneezes on him because of an arbitrary number floating above their head.
@@sus425 The only thing funny is that your post has nothing to do with the person you're replying to. Whether or not *you* had to care about the levels has nothing to do with the fact that putting levels into the game was stupid and there are situations where things the OP said *could* potentially happen. In fact, the idea that you never had to care about the levels means the system is even more idiotic and didn't even need to be in the game.
2:59:00 "...it reminds me of the Captain Toad levels..." Now I have the mental image of an angry, Toad version of Kratos grumpily waddling around Captain Toad levels. Thanks for that!
I have yet to play on the hardest difficulty (one playthrough on Hard mode) and the stuns on runic attacks failing is consistently noticeable to me. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Most often than not they are the reason I die. I would argue the cause of 90% of my deaths was either a rune attack failing to stun when it was supposed to, accidentally entering an area with enemies that significantly outleveled me, or loading a checkpoint with too low health that I was instantly killed by a projectile before the screen faded in. Your final rant about gameplay, despite what you claim (not blaming you, blaming the game) is applicable to playing on all difficulties, not just the hardest.
Cory said they had enough material for two God of War games and they had to cut a lot out which is probably why the next game for PS5 won't take 5 years to make. As much as I hated you taking away my Santa Claus you had very valid points that I mostly agree with.
@@danielwilson5450 Not instead, but in between. Both have their merits and both are equally entertaining. No need to just shit all over a guy in his own comment section while lifting someone else on a pedestal. 😂😂😂
Me at the 25 minute mark: "Wow this has been such an interesting and knowledgable video...I wonder how much longer it is." Sees that it's 3 hours. Me: I'm off to get snacks.
Darek Baird Ikr, I was chilling, about to playing Titan Fall 2. Clicked this video, got sucked in with a very well done video. Checked to see where I was, 33 minute mark.... just thought “I’ll watch a little longer, maybe I’ll find a nice stoping point” Cut to me 2 hours later on the start screen still watching
@@crow2989 I play games like COD and Titan Fall 2 while listening to videos like this on youtube. Don't know why it just makes grinding for unlocks go by faster or so it seems...won't do it with games like Rainbow Six Siege but that's because of how important sound is in a game like that.
As someone who played this game without playing the previous games, the story still holds up. It adds a sort of mystery that is very interesting to see through the game. Playing as a new person to the series is like viewing Kratos as Atreus with intrigue and excitement
God of war 2018 is definitely an amazing game But to get the best experience you have to play the previous games The reason it is good in the first place is BECAUSE of the previous ones
@@noro329 I mean that’s just not true, I played god of war blind and then played 3, I don’t find it any better or worse of a game after I learned the full story lol
I'm a newer fan, I subscribed with the first witcher video. I'm not sure my feedback will be heard, but I love when you gush about the things you appreciate about a game. I prefer it actually. Your way of praising a game is very insightful. Just saying this in response to what you said about us being here for the criticism. I love your criticism, but not only.
I just thought about something, when he mentioned that modi is taken by surprise that magni was killed, it could be linked to how he mentioned magni and modi are the few people who actually survive ragnarok. Maybe they had assumed they were basically immune to being killed but since kratos interferes with ragnarok itself thats why he was caught off guard. But that would imply they all knew their own fates
I believe norse mythology has multiple gods with perfect foresight. Its cosmology is deterministic. Kratos is not supposed to be there, so he threw a wrench in the works.
to be fair part of "Odin's wrath" most likely is Baldur. He's obviously largely acting of his own volition, but he's also almost definitely acting under Odin's orders, it also explains how he's able to travel where-ever, whenever, Odin. It kinda brings up other major plot holes if you think too much about it, but it's also possible I'm thinking about it in a flawed way.
7:15 Fun Fact: this video was originally cut to be exactly 3 hours long because JA is that good, but then he decided this f*** up was too good not to include.
@K C You killed a lot of gods in each of the games from the original trilogy. Also, most of his criticisms are valid. This video is better feedback for the developers than the majority of reviews. People like you is why the gaming industry is in a bad place.
@K C "in each of" meaning, each individual title had a lot of bombastic over-the-top god killing fights. And even in the entries with only 4ish god killing fights they tend to patch that up with even more giant monster fights. God of W4r is pretty light in comparison. To note: this isn't commenting on whether that is a good thing or not. This game obviously is going for a different type of thing.
I may be in the minority but I like how slow and tedious travel is, given the fact that the story is so rich and involved it makes it feel like less of a video game and that I’m actually experiencing the world with kratos
I’d argue the opposite, that the tediousness and limitations of the movement are a constant reminder of how video-gamey the world is instead of a more natural feeling movement system (like the video pointed out, walls that seem easily climbable, obvious easy jumps that Kratos refuses to make, etc)
I liked it for exclusively the boat “in fact I tended to favour it over the fast travel in my first playthrough) What I hated was that there weren’t enough stories and most of them were linked to the lore tablets
I think the critique here is more that the trick to hide loading times doesn't justify its own existence, and ditto the trick to force use of Atreus. Because you _are_ playing a video game. Trying to disguise it as one-shot cinema leads to some silly excesses, and it's also nice when the game lets you play the game instead of stopping to make you send an NPC to play the game for you for a few seconds with a canned animation.
@@ParkerTotten30 I think you are mostly right, traversal works great if you are not doing 100%. I never found it annoying until i had to return multiple times to previous areas for completion. I think the game should make moving around easier after you finish it but I also understand that at release this would have almost been impossible due to the limitations of the PS4
God I can’t stop laughing when he starts talking about Nintendo games and he has replacement footage of modded Skyrim because of Nintendo’s strict policy. Goes to show how the mods for Skyrim is nearly limitless too.
2:03:20 I think you were a bit unfair with the second visit to Helheim, at least plot and dialogue-wise (I agree with you on the repetitiveness of the gameplay). It's not as stupid or incomprehensible as you make it out to be. When he talks about the illusion and how it wasn't him, he's not talking about his literal identity and that being someone else. It's about identity. "That wasn't me" doesn't imply he doesn't remember but he's saying "I can't believe I did that, that is not something I would do". He's having trouble conciliating his actions with his opinion of himself. In a way, he's rejecting the idea that, because he's a god, he must be an asshole (as Kratos taught him). Later on, when Atreus says "that was an illusion, it wasn't me" and he talks about how he "couldn't have done that", he's talking about how realizing that Helheim messes with you and shows illusions about your worst side, but those moments don't define you. So he's not talking about the illusion being a double of him (that would indeed be stupidly literal) but that the moment portrayed by the vision doesn't define his identity. He's not a god-killing revenge-seeking warrior like his father, he's Atreus, and he's not going to let Helheim try to convince him otherwise. This is a great scene because Atreus succeeds at doing what Kratos fails at immediately after. When Helheim shows Kratos the image of his own past (a moment you mention in passing at 2:03:54), he can't shake it off. Unlike Atreus, Kratos is too caught up on what being a god means to him. And he doesn't break free until Atreus talks him out of it, because Atreus is NOT convinced that he must be evil because he's a god. Kratos' main motivation for leaving his past behind is Atreus, and Atreus doesn't care what Kratos was or did before ("You saw..." "There's no time! We gotta go!". Atreus doesn't dwell on it). And now Atreus has taught Kratos something, instead of it being the other way around.
1:27:00 I've seen this video maybe 3 times, and it was only after watching Joseph's streams on Persona 5 that I finally got why it went black-n-white for the word "useless" Keeping in-house memes active, very impressive
My biggest gripe with combat in this game is how impossible it felt to predict the enemy movements. The revenants and dark elves in particular have a tendency to teleport or jump away without any windup and in the middle of their own animations
2:22:09 he starts showing numerous problems with the combat that become apparent thanks to the "Give Me God of War Mode" telling someone to "get gud" doesn't excuse the problems it.
Kamera Combo meter Puzzles there is more but THESE 3 THINGS MAKES A GOD OF WAR game. They ruined the kamera fully!!!!fight System looks soooo good that you dont get its huge bullshit!!!hitting while magik,fast turn issues,no weapin change when shield(soooo dumb). Now the real problems. 1.riding a yak 2.atreus 3.boi 4.loki Whatever 5.pussy kratos crying around like a bitch(so awoke and humble now).... 6.no puzzles at all.not ONE REAL PUZZLE.(WHAT IS THIS????) 7.Hours with boi for his first date.... 8.comor fighting 9.odin🤣🤣🤣 10.bla bla bla bla bla bla from everyone instead kratos(hhhrmpff,grrr,grumml,grmpf,no,yes,......) 11.killing giants but 1hit drougar you dead 12.way tooooo easy 13. 14. 15. And there are many points more.only good thing is the graffiks and the fight with heimdall(the cutszene,rest is look trough after 10minutes like every boss!!!) Sorry my bad eng!
About the boss in Helheim and Atreus' behavior : - The giant bird was supposed to be a boss at first, with its own sequence in the game, but it has been cut out mid-development for money restrictions. - Atreus' attitude was supposed to change more smoothly and slowly, for the specific reasons you mentioned, but MANY things have been cut out of the game (either money restrictions, or just space itself). So yeah, Barlog thought of these things, but he could not change them afterwards, especially due to the fact that 6 months before release, the game was far from finished, so it must have been a really tough final phase ! And about the next game, Barlog mentioned that while writing this one, they realized that they had gone way too far, and they were actually writing a LOT of stuff that would have to end up in the second game. So, given the fact that we have most of the story, the graphics, the characters and mechanics ; The fact that they started working on this one on December 2013 to release it 4 1/2 years later, i hope the next one will come out mid/end 2020. Fingers crossed !
Knowing this makes the game click much more. The entire story arc of the game almost feels like you finished a first area or boss, not an entire game taking away the character development. If Atreus and Kratos didn't get as developed as they were from the beginning to the end of the game I might even say the entire game's story was just plain bad and unfinished. The final boss almost seemed like it was added last minute because they realized that they couldn't put together the finale they really wanted to do.
Great analysis! I agree with most of your points and can respect all of them. I really would like to hear your opinion on this game’s sequel - God of War Ragnarok. While Ragnarok game did improve and flourish some aspects of this game, like adding mods to skills and allowing you to disable them. And more verticality/involvement of the environment in combat, I feel they doubled down with some of the issues with GoW 2018, like the mixed pacing, poor traversal and unskipabble ‘walky-talkies’.
Idk, I found the boy's sudden "omg I'm a god"-turn to arrogance pretty believable: he's literally a child who was just told he's "superior" to everyone around him. To him, being a God signifies being able to do whatever he wants because he's a child. His dad not really knowing how to handle that was annoying but also understandable.
That would be fine in a vacuum, but we know who Atreus is as a character. Since the start of the game he has been depicted as this innocence in this bleak cold world, one that showed compassion to every character he interacted with on his journey even to animals. Then we flip the switch and the good boy just turns into a dickhead to everyone undeservedly. If this attitude was directed primarily at Kratos it would be understandable. He just learned that his father is a God and should re-contextualize his entire relationship with him. Kratos's stoic and distant demeanor can now be interpreted as just another God who cares little for him and anyone in his path. Instead Atreus decides to embody that mentality and the arc plays out as a reflection of Kratos when it should have been a reflection on Atreus himself.
@@MegaOverclocked well power corrupts. Ive known some people that were that nice until they werent. And Children even the most respectful can and will be assholes. It was a bit to sudden yes but it fits. He is inmature and stupid at times (but in character so its not like its a bad thing) BOI I cant wait to see what other stupid shit he does now in the second game
Over a year after playing I watch this video and feel a weight lifted hearing you call the stagger mechanic bullshit. I thought I was going to go crazy trying to figure out what I was doing wrong and stopped playing Give Me God of War difficulty after getting to the helheim valkyrie and dying to it over and over again
really trying to hit that 10 minute mark for that ad revenue
@@denami8993 He only overdid the ten minute mark by a couple of minutes.
you mean the 10 hour mark
Then don't watch..if you are entertained then keep watching..save your ... comments for your mama
The joke ------------>
Your head
Bass-D C nice way of saying ‘r/wooosh’
2016 Joseph: WARNING! This is a VERY long video at 34 minutes
2018 Joseph: let's just jump into it!
LOL
He announced the other day that the Witcher video will be 9 hours long. God help us all
Benjamin B it was 4, but apparently the Witcher 2 video is gonna be 5 hours and the Witcher 3 video is gonna be longer than either of those
@@benjaminb6678 wtf
@@benjaminb6678 witcher 3 vid will be 11 hours, we're fucked
making every Nintendo game a skyrim mod to avoid copyright takedowns is absolutely genius
It's also Very Monster Factory
Ahmed Rehan and makes you remember how namby-pamby Nintendo are with fun. I’m surprised his Mario odyssey review didn’t land him in _Prison!!!_
Oh wow I didnt even think about that. I thought it was purely for comedic effect
wait HE DID THOSE?!?
I wouldnt put it past Nintendo. They sent a cease and decist to a minecraft Pokemon mod
“Imagine your favorite franchise. Now imagine its next mainline series entry as a racing game.”
Man, Banjo-kazooie fans don’t need to imagine this. They lived it.
hated banjo kazooie, loved nuts and bolts. Dont @ me.
Yakuza fans watching the newest mainline game become a turn based jrpg:
Like a Dragon was my 1st Yakuza game but I never finished it. Gotta start it over.
little big planet fans
Jak combat racing
I was about to sit down to watch a movie, BUT I GUESS THIS WILL DO INSTEAD
take me home country roads
oh
I think it technically qualifies as a documentary.
@@Volthoom that or a really long infomercial
You need to collaborate with this god of a man.
“Imagine your favorite series’s next mainline title is a racing game” fuck yeah finally bloodborne-kart
I'm waiting on Naughty Dog to pull through on their tried and tested formula
We got Crash Team Racing and Jak X
Now where's Unkarted and The Fast of Us?
@@InhabitantOfOddworld I was going to make a karting pun but honestly I can't do better than you did here. S-tier comment.
Actually, Crash Bandicoot's tag-team racing on PSP is great.
It's so funny this became a thing with ps1 style bloodborne April fools update.
I love bloodborne. It actually got me into from software. But I would much prefer kart souls come to us first
"Imagine your favorite series"
Super Mario Bros.
"Now imagine it as a racing series"
A-Are you out of your mind?!!
How ridiculous, I can't possibly imagine something like that
@Jose GTA's not a battle royale?
@@verybored1261 Not yet 😏
Mario kart🤷🏽♂️
@Cyprien Smith very much so
To be fair, director Cory Barlog did admit that Atreus' sudden arrogant turn upon finding out he's a god would have happened over a longer period of time, but because this section of the plot had been trimmed and reorganized it meant his character development was unable to progress more naturally.
“To be fair” doesn’t mean anything when the final product is the way that it is.
@@ImortalZeus13 You mean fantastic for the most part with flaws that can be explained with time constraints? Yeah. Sometimes cuts WILL happen. Unfortunately it messed with the pacing in a single portion of this game.
@@ImortalZeus13 to be fair, your parents tried as best they could
@@heckingbamboozled8097 "flaws that can be explained with time constraints" like the entire game industry? Nobody wants to actively make a bad game , those are result of time/budget/staff constraints but THEY ARE NOT EXCUSED. Otherwise we should just accept every single garbage game because "i'm sure they have flaws that can be explained".
God of war has many problems and some of them are also bad game design.
@@gianlucaangeli You wanna be mad? Be mad at the hotshots up top. They don't care about the game, they want profit. The devs got no choice about how long they have to make this game. We can only thank the lords that this game can actually be played and is not a buggy mess at first launch who needs a 100 Gb first day patch to even have it work.
A little short don't you think?
In all seriousness, Mat Matosis’ vid was way too short so I’m glad we only had to wait a few more days for a full length feature on this game.
No.
Oh absolutely
a six hour analysis would have been more suitable
lol a fellow Maestre
1:53:07
This isn't necessarily an important comment but Mimir says, "Beautiful, isn't it?" it's because he's already seen it and he knows what it looks like already so he's commenting to Kratos and Atreus who haven't seen it. There was really no point in me debunking that nitpick but I just wanted to get it off my chest.
This is correct, Jo has overreached on this 'complaint'
@@SunburnCity I disliked the video just because of this one nitpick
@@Just_a_Snake It's not that big of a deal, really. A fair chunk of his video is truly high quality game critique. But in this one point, it is a sign of someone looking for superficial nits to scratch at. I don't like it but it doesn't detract from the quality of the video as a whole.
@@SunburnCity sorry I was being sarcastic. I genuinely love the rest of the video it has a lot of in depth critiques that are very well pointed out.
that was my thinking too.
“It’s Norse and no longer greek”
Yeah cuz he killed everything interesting in Greek mythology
The only major Greek gods that would have the ability to or want to take revenge upon Kratos still would be Artemis and MAYBE her twin brother Apollo. We know Art is vengeful because of her myths and we get her hunting blade in GOW1 and we get Apollo's bow in 3 except not from him, so maybe he's already dead since Helios is still the God of the Sun when Zues put Apollo in that position due to shenanigans with Helios and his son (which disappeared because of Zues leaving him in a depression.) and the rest of the gods and beings probably want to rebuild and take the powers and titles of the dead gods. I really hope at least one of them show up and give Odin and Thor the tea on Kratos after you have an encounter or two with them and they team up on you.
What basically led to Ascension
@@JM-vl3cy Ascension is the first game in the timeline.
@@SentientHoodii what I meant is that the developers already used all the cool Greek stuff for the previous games so they didn't have a lot of intersting things to show in Ascension.
@@JM-vl3cy the Furies are an integral part of the Greek Myths. And Hecatoncheires is one of the backbones of the overthrow of the Titans along with the other Centimanes. Though besides hinting at the Primordials and some oracle stuff yeah. Least of the interesting myth stuff.
12:16 - He got his full godhood back by absorbing the soul of Hades when he kills him (used Hades' Soul Hooks to do it). It was even part of the game mechanics as you needed "the soul of a god to use an Hyperion Gate" as Hephaestus said. And after absorbing the the soul of Hades he could use the Hyperion gates as his full godhood had returned (and pretty sure the game even throws up a text saying this exact thing to let you know you can now use the Hyperion Gates and why).
"Imagine your favourite series, now imagine that the sequel is a racing game"
BLOODBORNE CART
BLOODBORNE CART
BLOODBORNE CART
"Carts all over the track... you'll ride one sooner or later"
@@criticalf0ll0w16 Curse the red shells, the green shells too. And the blue shells, forever, true.
Tonight, Gehrman joins the race.
"My guiding engine you were in my kart all along"
-Ludwig the accelerator
"Ooh, how majestic! A racer is a racer even in a dream!" - Micolash, Host of the Grand Prix
Joseph: "Imagine your favorite series"
Me: "Okay"
Joseph: "Now imagine it as a racing game"
Me: *"In the Age of Ancients the world was unformed, shrouded by fog. A land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons. But then there was Engines and with engines came disparity. Heat and cold, driving and crashing, and of course, winning and losing. Then from the dark, They came, and found the Karts of Lords within the flame. Nito, the First of the Crashed, The Biker Gang of Izalith and her Daughters of Chaos, Gwyn, the Racing Champion of Sunlight, and his faithful fanclub. And the Last Place Pygmy, so easily forgotten.*
*With the strength of the Karts, they challenged the Dragons. Gwyn's mighty Electric cars peeled on their stone racetracks. The Biker Gangsters weaved great firestorms with their engines. Nito unleashed a miasma of destruction and crashing. And Seath the Kart-less betrayed his own, and the Dragons were no more.*
*Thus began the Age of Fire. But soon the flames will fade and only Dark will remain. Even now there are only embers, and man sees not light, but only endless nights. And amongst the living are seen, carriers of the accursed Darksign.*
*Yes, indeed. The Darksign brands the Undriven. And in this land, the Undriven are corralled and led to the north, where they are locked away, to await the end of the world... This is your fate.*
*Only, in the ancient legends it is stated, that one day an undriven shall be chosen to leave the undriven asylum, in pilgrimage, to race to the land of ancient lords, 200cc Star Cup."*
I don’t like two things about this comment. 1. Why can’t a racing game have this much depth in the story 2. And where are the likesssss
Thank you for giving me a good laugh.
That's amazing. Please, take my humble like and the everlasting respect that goes with it.
"The Darksign brands the Undriven." damn Bro that one got me good :'D
This needs more likes
Losing his second wife really had an effect on him. I had my wife die and I can tell you that those movie cliches are really true: I did not know I could feel that bad mentally. I was in effect in a bubble with me and the world having a kind of sound-proof wall between us. If he went through that TWICE, I do indeed believe that he would have a totally different view on life, having to raise his son all by himself, no matter how much he wants to just curl up and die (again), even though he is probably now realizing that he has been cursed with eternal life, no matter how much he might want to permanently kill himself.
@Reddead Redemtion She was 41 years old and I was 52.
Damn man, sorry to hear that. I hope your life has gone uphill since then😔🙏
@@nathanokun8801 I couldn't possibly imagine what you went through, my deepest condolences
I dislike that they have used the dead wife as a prop for the premise twice, without giving them any substantial role.
Nathan Levesque ehhh, Faye had more of a role than Lysandra, despite having less of an effect.
Digging up the blades of chaos is my all time favourite gaming moment. I avoided all spoilers like the plague so that moment was so hype for me it was unreal.
What do you know about the plague?
@@pooloftim8263 It was just a phrase for avoiding something
@@pooloftim8263he's never gotten it so he must be really good at avoiding it
Other youtubers : "gotta hit that 10 minute mark for extra revenue"
Joseph anderson: "you meant 3 hours right?"
MauLer: "You meant 10h right ?"
MauLer is da boy
1. Adding up the total amount of time spent watching the animations that play when you get a moon in Odyssey isn’t thorough research. It’s nitpicking.
2. Getting noticeably upset that critics gave a perfect score to a game, is being irrational and emotional. Because, if he’s secure about his lower scores, why do other people’s high scores bother him so much? They are all opinions, and there’s are just as valid. He can’t have it both ways.
3. Praising games for being “greater than the sum of their parts,” while at the same time, bashing a game for every single tiny flaw (such as the length of a freaking moon animation), is not rational. At best, it’s inconsistent.
Then, after everything I mentioned, he calls -other- people fragile, many of which are subscribers? He can’t be serious. Look into a mirror and take the time to listen to yourself.
Keep in mind, he’s still one of my favorite game reviewers. But the fragile comment just pisses me off. It’s a d-bag thing to say. He’s the epitome of fragile.
1- When your game is based entirely on picking up an item, you better make sure that said item picks up quickly or you reduce the number of items to pick up.
By taking this info out of context, sure, that's the pinnacle of nitpicking, but by putting it back with the point he was trying to make you realise that it's not that bad. His point being that there are way too many moons for it to have such a long animation upon pick up AND having most of them throw you back to the last checkpoint.
It's an unnecessary waste of time, which he intended to prove with what you mentioned here. Did he have to do it ? No, he could just show a couple of animations in a row and show us why it's bad, but he chose to go further and calculate the exact time that is wasted in pick up animation in the game. I really don't see the problem here, he just backed up his claim with actual research.
2- I didn't see him being legitimately upset about the game getting 10/10s, all he said was that he didn't understand the praise it was getting. It was the same with Zelda, he didn't understand the 10/10s and wasn't upset about them, he just brought them up to provide context, nothing more.
If you chose to interpret it as being "upset", well, I won't take that away from you I guess, you're allowed to feel however you want to feel.
But disagreeing with something doesn't equate being upset about it.
3- Greater than the sum of its parts litterally means that each individual part of the game has problems but they all fit together nicely to give something special in the end.
He then proceeded to criticise each individual part, which he already established had problems, I really don't see what's inconsistent here.
4- Why the hell did you think this was a topic worth bringing up under this particular comment anyway ? Not that I care, but I found it strange that you chose to leech on another person's comment in order to criticise him, that just comes accross as petty.
Revenue well earned
8 hour Witcher video hype.
8 hour per game
My body is ready.
I can't fucking wait
I'm looking forward to it but I don't think it's worth his time, haha. Will take him an ungodly amount of time.
@@flimpeenflarmpoon1353 well he wants to play the games anyway. Not sure if he actually WANTS to read the books but maybe. But yeah the project is going to be so fucking massive even if the video is amazing im not sure the time investment wouldnt be better used on other things
Kratos' terrible stories are Aesop's fables. Tortoise and the hare, fox and the sour grapes, the toad and the scorpion. Aesop was a Greek teacher/storyteller from the Hellenistic period. So Kratos is passing on tales from his world, the Greek world, to his son. It's not the stories that are terrible, it's how he tells them that is terrible and truly hilarious.
And they are told in the way a Spartan would tell them: Short, practical.
NoodleKeeper lmao responding to a 3 month old comment
Aye, it makes sense for Kratos to be a Laconist
@@NoodleKeeper Truly laconic of him :)
@@fortnitefanningfunnymomets7613 quiet child
I just wanna say I appreciate your analysis on gameplay mechanics a lot. Majority of game reviewers do a recap of the story and call it a day.
True. It's a lot like most people offering commentary about comics: they don't know how to discuss visual art, which is what defines the medium.
Joseph, buddy. We don't need flying revenants. Please don't even imply that.
It's like recommending flying spiders
We don’t need more revenants AT ALL
Junkyard Productions Xbox 360 profile pic
Yeah they already are the second most annoying fucks in the game, it would be worst than a nightmare if they could fly away too.
i think he's implying that if they make the revenants fly, then they'd also take his suggestion of giving Kratos the ability to jump... thus allowing him to effectively deal with them without making revenants even more annoying than they are, just differently annoying
Just an interesting note, but the original idea for God of War 3/4 (I forget which) was that Kratos met up with Norse-Universe Kratos-equivalent and Persian/Mayan/Japanese-universe (I forget which) Kratos-equivalent after they all killed their own pantheons and they become the three wise men.
Yes, THE three wise men.
You know, the ones that bring gifts to THE JESUS?
I want to read that script so bad.
I just thought that kratos becomes god.
I want this to be true. That would be amazingly stupid and hilarious. But I'd still play the hell out of it.
this is a very good video about the game ua-cam.com/video/SYkIJ2D94XE/v-deo.html
This is one of the dumbest ideas I ever heard.
@@TheBrazilRules I know, it's bafflingly dumb. Isn't it great?
"Imagine the next mainline game in your favorite series is a racing game"
Banjo kazooie nuts and bolts, that is all
BLOODBORNE KART SQUAD
@@jimbogreen7029 Imagine Djura riding one of the werewolves as a playable character in that game
JAK X BABY
this was funny to me because i already thought to myself "my favorite game already is a racing game" then he commented on it and now i have to imagine a dirt rally JRPG
Bioshock Kart? I'll admit I'd play that...maybe Tears,Plasmids and golf clubs could be used like mystery box items.
I am in no way saying your videos are boring- but playing your videos whilst napping is very effective; you’ve got a soothing narration voice lol
Feel the same way haha
It's funny that I'm watching this video today after Cory Balrog just said that the reason you fight a troll in Helheim instead of this big bird is because of performance and budget.
Raising Kratos makes it clear that this game really came together close to deadline and a lot of stuff had to be rushed to make date. AAA gamedev is like laying track while the train is moving, it's a miracle ANY of them ever come out even half-good.
Profile pic checks out
Whelp.
@@Miausrz hehehe
Man, AAA deadlines are the worst. These companies make more than enough to give devs half a year extra on every game and they really should. With pre-orders and all the other stupid monetizing bullshit, the least they could do is actually spend that money on improving the working conditions and the deadlines for their devs.
Not that I know whether the specific company behind this game is guilty of this, but it's definitely true in general
Matthewmatosis: 41 minute God of War video
Joseph Anderson: _BOI_ *3 HOUR LONG GOD OF WAR FEATURE FILM*
At least mat has something to say...
For me daddy Joseph will always be a chad no matter what
@Nerdyy where's a pic of him?
BIGGEST DICK ENERGY
the first chad comment in the replies to this onwards reminded me why youtube comment sections are garbage and to never go looking in them
The "Breath of the Wild but it's actually modded Skyrim" gag never gets old.
DovahSpy skyrim mario odyssey killed me
+El Duderino I love CD Projekt Red. Theyre one of the few bigger dev teams that i think still cares about their craft. They dont want you to buy their games, they want you to ENJOY their games. Not to mention the Witcher 3 DLC that was massive (and really good) for its price. Cyberpunk hype.
Blame Nintendo for that.
Can i have a time stamp
DovahSpy a
I had no knowledge of the original three games, and I think your point about Atreus is so spot-on. It actually makes me appreciate this game so much more, it’s absolutely genius to use context to help the player sympathize with one protagonist more than the other.
Actually Joe, the health and rage upgrade items are pronounced like this:
Yer-dunn apples
And
Don't-forget-mead
Why isn't this pinned? Joe, come on.
I...I don't get it :(((
The Crazy Witcher During this video he mentioned that he wasn't sure how to pronounce "Idunn apple" (the health upgrade item in the game)
He played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 a while back, and that game was infamous for having WAY too much combat dialogue. Specifically, enemy soldiers would constantly say "YOU'RE DONE!", "Don't forget me!" and "Think you can take me?!?"
@@gizmohollow ohhhhh ok tnx
YA DUN
Joseph 51:28 "...Please don't let Thor show up, break the leviathan axe, leave Kratos half dead, and make the player regain his power."
I feel like they are gonna do exactly that.
Edit: Yeah yeah yeah. So they didn't break the axe. Whatever. But you still have to go through a damn skill tree AGAIN to get to the good stuffs from the previous game. And the 'good stuffs' ain't even as good as they used to be btw. But that's a whole topic for another time.
"Thanos will return in Kratos: Ragnarok"
How would they explain leaving Kratos weak af at the start of the game without stripping all of his upgrades though?
Nah, in the next game Thor will kill Kratos with a golf club, and then you will have to spend 10 hours playing as Thor
@@gyrozeppeli00 dont make him weak as fuck? Just expand on his enemies. His enemies are stronger. Hes not weaker. It's not hard.
@@gyrozeppeli00 his whole point is that Kratos shouldn't start off GoW 2 back at level 1, that he should start off with the full list of powers he has from this game.
1:22:52 "Kratos and Atreus are fugitives in the Norse realm, so far they've managed to stay relatively lowkey".
*slow clap*👏
i laughed audibly joe is amazing
😂😂😂😂😂😂
33:04 i barely knew anything about Kratos when i bought GOW 2018 and this opening was enough to endear me to him - he's a gigantic tattooed scarred man, who caresses a tree with a handprint, which is a strange act of fondness, something i realized even when i had no idea what he was about. it's clear it means something to him, and the fact that he gets angrier as he cuts it down tells me that there's more behind the tree than it just being that
then when he talks to Atreus - he's blunt, quiet, but has a booming voice that makes you want to listen when he DOES speak. i was drawn in immediately, and the devs did an awesome job
"kratos can't go through an entire roster of gods in an entire game"
>laughs in God of War 3
Kratos can’t kill the entire roster. The weapons he uses can though 😂 that’s what he meant
GoW 3 got me into the series solely because of how violently kratos rampaged through the entire pantheon. Sigh, i needed an outlet like that when i was 6
@@jam5287 did yall forget how he killed Apollo?
spartttan1337 I assume you’re probably talking about Helios? And that wasn’t really a feat.. since he had the power to kill a skyfather with him the whole time lol if it was just kratos? No weapons.. no Pandora’s box? He wouldn’t even stand a chance against Hercules. He was nearly killed by a barbarian in his early days. And if you did mean Apollo you may have to remind me. Kratos has killed a lot of different popular people and gods from Greece lol
@@jam5287 whichever one was the speedy boyo where he cuts his legs off and steals his boots, after smacking the shit out of him. It was either hermes or apollo?
14:50 simple but hard to miss answer, Kratos was cursed to be invulnerable to suicide, so him killing himself would quickly be undone, so he still released the hope, but just reverted to life almost immediately afterwards.
Well his not just invulnerable to suicide, his invulnerable even in the sense if atreus dies and he has nothing to live for and he lets him self killed by thor this is still consider an attempt at ending his life. And he will die over and over until his going to kill thor. This works only if kratos is the strongest in the whole universe which at this point its true if you consider everything. So is not only to suicide. And no one can out power him.
Edit: and no one can out power him yet*
Sooo his the strongest in the whole universe based on overpowering everyone he faced.
Weren't the blades of chaos attached to Kratos and only could be removed either by the God of War himself or when the wielder's time of servitude ended? Then Kratos killed Ares and the curse broke. This means any Greek curse should've disappeared when Kratos killed all of them
@@Vlad-ip2zt Couldn't Kratos just think of killing himself with the enemy's attack moments before death to be invincible?
@@yuanwang9324 I imagine he could remove them, it would just take the skin with it. And you see Kratos with bloody bandages on his arms so
@@silversalmon9909 Kratos stated he tried to get rid of the blades but they "came back."
"imagine your favorite series as a racing game"
geralt wearing his witcher suit, sitting in a need for speed supercar, yelling "damn, you're ugly" at everyone while triss sits beside him going "well?"
CPR make it happen!
@@arthurdurham i thought of the song cpr at first my brain is cursed
"well?" "well?" "well?" "well?" "well?" "well?" "well?" "well?" "well?" "well?" "well?" "well?"
At the start of every race, "How long are you gonna make me wait?"
@@Dabajaws so iconic
I've watched/listened to this video so many times, but I just realized how flawless the transitions were at 9:53 to 10:05
Editing perfection, and it suits the point hemakes in that moment perfectly.
On the enemies being less aggressive while they're off screen: TONS of games do this, notably Resident Evil 4, but even Doom 2016.
It's more of a problem that you noticed it than that it's a feature. "Invisible design" or something.
Same thing happens in Uncharted I believe. Only a certain number of enemies can shoot at the player at one time.
@Banuner dark souls spoiled me by not treating me like a child while I was a child and now every time something like Pokemon Let's Go comes out my eyes glaze over more
Banuner yeah, Ark: Survival evolved does the same thing. You can turn all you want, but you’ll still get mauled to death lol.
Uhm, on what difficulty have you played this game? Also, I think you are completely wrong when it comes to GoW as the game has implemented in its self the notification system that you're being attacked from your blind spots, visually by that arrow and audibly by Atreus, also you have a key binding for fast turn so you instantly turn. If you play more you'll notice that the AI does its thing while you don't face it. I really don't know where you got all this from.
lol except the pinkies in Doom 2016, the number of times i've been killed by an off-screen pinky that rams into me unexpectedly would seem evidence enough for me. Which is why they're one of my favorite pieces of the combat puzzle, because its still telegraphed by their pig-like scream
other youtubers: I'm afraid of posting long videos.... like, who will sit and watch a 20 minute analysis amiright?
joseph anderson: you fool
I come from House Biscuit. Long videos are our stock and trade.
Ironically, I'm more tempted to skip through a 20 minute review than I am with this video
NANI?!
Then there is shaymay with his 7 freaking hour review of pokemon
I can't wait for Kratos to fight Jesus
Best. DLC. Ever.
The final final boss
That be fun I don't think people have the guts to make a game where you fight one of the Abrahamic gods
That would be a quick fight. The guy was killed by romans in sure he wouldn't be hard to defeat.
@Tolga K
call me out ,that'd be fine
I'm more afraid that they LL bomb me xD
Okay so, this was not only my first game in the series but it was the first game i had ever played. What impression did the opening given me?
From the first scene with Kratos cutting the tree I immediately understood that this man has history. It was pretty obvious that he is overpowered for the task and the mundane way he was chopping that tree brilliantly catches you up with a few things. First, he is powerful but holding back (living differently now); and second, he is out of place. In a snowy forest sheltered by an abundance of trees and serenity Kratos with his deep voice and hardned demenour is someone who could not have been born and raised here. The little hut he lives in also pushes that narrative, that he is out of place. The furnishings and wooden plank construction are fragile in obvious comparison to kratos' own gear and it looks as if he could knock the house down with his bare hands, the house is figuratively temporary then. When you meet Atreus you understand that he is the one that is at home here but kratos and the boy are opposites reflected in a mirror. They show the potential to each become the other which is an indication for what is to come. But before that Atreus makes it clear how stressed or non existent thier relationship is.
So yeah, i think the opening of the game does a fantastic job at showing you kratos' past and also what is to come in a very succinct way. It is powerful and a great cinematic scene.
I love this insight, you would unironically make a great youtuber
''like SHREK, Kratos is layerd'' caught me offgaurd
I almost lost a lung with that one. :')
layered
lol he has a shriek reference i. every video and they’re like 100% accurate
Fun fact, the bird in the back of the so stated "worst let down" was actually supposed to be the boss you face in hell, but the developers ran out of time for that unfortunately
I would have been fine if I got delayed just for that boss fight
@@lemonmist2233 It would've cost more than their budget.
Besides, they had a deadline.
It's not like they can delay the game as much as they want.
They have SONY breathing down their necks too.
Also they changed the story of the bird. It actually helped Kratos and Atreus by flapping it's wings in order to help the ship go further.
@@cyrusthegreat3299 Ik but it would’ve been cool
There was plenty unneeded that could and should have been removed to make way for better boss variety
In a perfect world, developers would have enough time and resources to make their perfect game without a publisher breathing down their necks.
But this isn't a perfect world.
I fell asleep and woke up and the video still wasn't done
2 hour naps. Nice
@@renaudlemieux1 do you want to re word that?
The video that never ends...
You clearly need more sleep
Same, I honestly thought it was a seperate video
his head would blow is he tried to explain plot holes in Ragnarok.
Cant wait till he finally names a video "Game - Finally A Masterpiece"
Knack 2 - Finally A Masterpiece, Baby!
@Steven Murphy Bloodborne is far from a masterpiece. Everything after Shadows of Yarnham is garbage apart from the dlc and Gherman
@Steven Murphy top five are 1. Dark Souls 2.Undertale 3. LoZ Ocarina of Time (mainly because it was the first game I ever beat so nostalgia) 4. Kingdom Hearts 5. Final Fantasy 7
I hope that happen in *REAL LIFE* well we all gonna hope soo...
Halo Combat Evolved maybe
I think that a lot of the "slower" sections of the game are meant to be "loading screens" so that the game has time to render the next part of the level. That's why there are so many parts where Kratos and Atreus have to climb a big wall, crawl through a low tunnel, etc. It's tedious, but not as bad as having loading screens every time you enter a new area.
The game is actually really smart with this, the reason some animations may take long or there are many slow areas is because it not only loads in the next area but It also de loads (idk what the word for that is) the past area making where you are now run way more smoothly
While playing, I never even thought of this, I thought it was a good way of getting around and making the journey seem more real. Maybe if I was doing a second playthrough, it could seem tedious, but initially, I was just awe struck by the whole game, especially after having played the original. I love how this game was more open to being able to explore and re-explore with the later gain of abilities.
Plus, the conversations between destinations really made me slow down to listen and sometimes made me wait to continue as to not cut off dialogue.
@@thex8857 the word is unloads
Especially when your walking on the world tree
good thing this wont be a problem anymore cause the SSD on PS5 is so bananas its faster than anything in the market rn (or as they say it is)
"The Witcher is gonna be next"
2 years...
Yeah XD
i hope you are happy
@Vishnu PBAWell then...
Considering the polish and length of the project... Worth it by every mean
@@TheLazarusOperation I read your comment as 'considering the Polish and length of the project' for a second there.
"...That had the attention to detail and passion of an indie game swirling inside it" really hit the nail on the head there. I couldn't place it but that is a perfect articulation of what I was feeling
As someone whos first god of war was this one, Atreus essentially asked all the questions i had for me lol
Find someone who enjoys time with you as much as Joe enjoys his own jokes
IMPOSSIBLE
NOT SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE
I mean his jokes ARE pretty good lol
Cringe.
Who's Joe?
You have the ending of GoW3 wrong. When Athena revealed to Kratos that she placed her power of hope within the Box of Pandora, Kratos gives it back to the Greek people. Instead of giving this power back to Athena, Kratos used the Sword of Olympus not to kill himself, but to regain his Godly powers within the blade. This is why the Sword is dark after Athena pulls it out of Kratos, so to an extent Kratos got his power back but also lost a great amount by spreading Athena’s power to the people of Greece. What was really amazing though was that Kratos had hope within him the entire time as he always possessed the power of the Gods as Zeus’ son, and where his godly strength of Spartan rage stems from. Anyways, there’s so much to dive into, but that’s the brief of it lol.
See I thought so too at first, but why did Kratos not regain his godhood when Zeus stabbed him with the B of O back in GoW2? He just died then. Was it his own hand that could only give his powers back, inconsistancy or plain notgiveafuckery from the devs' part?
@@SfalmaTasFrenas probably something along the lines of because zeus was holding the blade he could absorb and hold onto the power. Similar to how Thor's hammer grants the power of Thor if your worthy, Zeus had Kratos' power as long as he held it. So when kratos stabs himself he gets his powers back because he's holding it and absorbing it back in.
Jason Lee James I believe you’re right, also because Kratos places his own powers within the blade that Zeus created. So in a sense Zeus was wielding Kratos’ power when he first killed him.
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 dude...you blew my mind, I didn’t even think of that during that cutscene..good catch
Cody Risling same here
I wish this guy made more content, one of the most perfect (as well as interesting) chill background to working on things at work or it home
He basically made 12 fifteen minute videos by just posting this one
Of he makes videos this long with this high amount of effort then videos will take months to complete and still hold quality such as this
@Pascal yeah, 4 years ago. He doesn't make videos like this anymore. He's relegated himself to streaming and it's truly a loss.
I wish the guy made more videos, but I understand why he doesn't, because he doesn't make "content", he offers worthwhile commentary. The use of "content" as a phrase seems innocuous, until you realize how it shapes thinking about media: as the filling of a bucket. And the "content" of a bucket can be anything. It can be gold, sand or dog dirt. If all you ask is more content to fill the bucket, you often won't get what you really want.
“Imagine your favorite series, but a racing game.”
“Shadow of the Collosus, Ride ‘em and race ‘em”
Alternatively: Collosi Racers
That would actually be fucking amazing
@@tetrafy70 imagine if you put lots of time into unlocking malus, the final one to race, and then you lose the race almost immediately because he doesn't move his legs
@@luciuswomack4337 lmaooooo someone needs to make this!
ICO: Yorda Racing.
My only takeaway from this is I want a JRPG about cars
The Developer discussed the huge change in Atreus' character was due to having to cut content because the game was gonna be even longer.
And due the actor, dude.
Source?
@@antoniomendes7961 just search Cory barlog cut content
I always viewed it as Atreus’s anger and frustration at *both* of his parents (Kratos was the one lying, true, but Faye could’ve also told him the truth, too, but probably didn’t say anything to keep Kratos’ state of mind intact) manifesting itself into a rage not unlike Baldur with Freya or even a younger Kratos back in Greece with Zeus (especially the latter).
If you thought your dad was cold and distant with you because he didn’t want to deal with his own problems head-on rather than simply “not wanting you” like you always presumed, I would get pissed off, too.
But, yeah, man, that definitely makes sense, too. 🙄
Raymond Williams
I always imagined that Kratos was in the beam of light for weeks if not months, leaving young Atraeus alone and abandoned to kill waves of these elves.
His mother was already dead, his father just disappeared...
Imagine that, during each wave of enemies, he thinks he sees his father in the light again.
By the time he can get close enough to pull Kratos out, he vanished.
Sisyphean task almost, and each failure feeding his rage as it would his father.
He finally pulls his dad out, but that rage that kept him going had not subsided.
That’s my head canon, at least.
Anyone know how long Kratos was in the light?
"Kratos moves like a guy with a turret for a head"
That's the truest statement about this game in any review in UA-cam.
"Almost a Masterpiece"
Joseph: *Proceeds to pick apart the game until all that's left is essentially the video game equivalent of a skeleton*
@Mouldy Banana ok but he sucks at fucking reviews lmao
@@skinnycorprus I disagree. Pretty spot on in all of his reviews
@@skinnycorprus Please explain. I would like to hear your opinion.
The Senate your silly alliteration hurt a lot of people’s feelings. Apologize.
I thought it was great game myself the last Valkyrie fight was seriously intense even on normal, on god of war it was insane.
Can't wait for the 60 hour long Xenoblade 2 analysis
Think you can take me?
60 hour long Xenogear/xenosaga analysis ;)
How about a 300 hours review of Eve Online.
@Patrick ArmsRoberts 500 hours containing the ★A$$♂EATERS♀ cracking eggs that look like Haru while Yusuke paints a nude painting of Hifumi
@@PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS don't forget all the "for real!" presented by our resident Ryuji
It's a real testament to the quality of these vids how much I can disagree with the individual points but still love how well thought-out and defended they are. On a personal note, I will say that Atreus going rogue accurately captures a seven-year-old's ability to go from something you desperately want to protect to something you have to actively fight the urge to toss out a window. I think Kratos' restraint during these sections was a bit of storytelling by absence. Knowing the character, I had genuine anxiety during this section of the game that he would lose it.
He's definitely not 7
@@dthbdbsfgh Agreed. As a former 11 year old, I think the statement just becomes more true when you reach that age
Okay that compilation of the trolls executions REALLY hammered home how repetitive it is and how it gets.
Did anyone else just yeet the Leviathan Axe off a mountain only to call it back like 10 minutes later?
You should equip the valkyries handle and go to the top of the mountain and light throw it trust me it'll even better
Better yet, leave the axe in a realm and call it from another to see what happens
@@kalash9467 doesn’t work, as soon as you put the Bifrost in the realm room, the axe comes back to you
I did that just to have the Og blades only in my back
Sorry for the necro. The axe physics were my first “next gen” moment on the PS4. It felt so fun when other games would just have it teleport back to you
i love that Joseph's stream laugh finally made a cameo on his main channel
I played this game as my first interaction with Kratos. I knew he came from Greek Mythology and I assumed he was the god of war based off the title. The games opening was one of the coolest experiences ever. It felt like I was a tamed monster and I had no idea what I could become.
This video is excellent. I love the attention to detail and research that went into analyzing both the merits and demerits of the game. It was fair-handed, and despite being analytical, it also felt relatable. Excellent work.
It has been over a decade since the world last heard word from Joseph Anderson. Since his disappearance, his critiques have become that of legend. During his absence the community that is game reviews has fallen into Chaos. IGN churns out review after review, a soulless wasteland of video game babble. When times look darkest, a glimmer of light shines... is it possible? Has our savior returned?
lol couldn't put it that good myself even if i tried .
I am a new follower of the light of Anderson, but his spirit speaks even unto me. One day - hear me brother, I know this to be true, for I have seen it - we shall even see a Red Dead Redemption II review, and, if we make sacrifice and care for the widows and the orphan children, a Cyberpunk 2077 review. One day. Praise Anderson.
@@michaelandcarina_personal Wait, aint that bad??
Ameen
*snap*
The leveling system is easily the worst part of this game. Kratos can survive a Valkyrie grinding his face into the ground but will eat shit instantly if a rotting zombie norseman hanging out on some bumfuck island so much as sneezes on him because of an arbitrary number floating above their head.
Funny, I just finished the game and at no point were the levels ever something I had to care about
@@sus425 The only thing funny is that your post has nothing to do with the person you're replying to. Whether or not *you* had to care about the levels has nothing to do with the fact that putting levels into the game was stupid and there are situations where things the OP said *could* potentially happen. In fact, the idea that you never had to care about the levels means the system is even more idiotic and didn't even need to be in the game.
Did you know that kratos is faster than light? Sadly games can't really effectively demonstrate this
Personally I've never survived any hits from a valkyrie but I know what you mean with the levels
@@sarkaztik3228 go eat a Snicker's.
9:56-10:03 were editing magic. Good job.
Tyler D That editing made me hard.
Yeah couldn't believe there'd be such tight video work in a 3 hour colossus video, but this just really proves, this ain't no podcast!
Was it Kratos tapping into his inner Joel? Or Joel tapping into his inner Kratos?
Top 10 anime crossovers to be continued.
9:50 these cuts to the last of us are incredible. I usually just listen to your stuff this attention to detail is insane.
“I won’t watch this whole thing”
*watches whole thing
I hope Cory and the team see this. I have high hopes for the sequels to this new formula. Awesome first edition.
me
“I won’t watch this whole thing AGAIN”
*watches whole thing again
4 times...
1:03:54
Hope the next game has a story arc where Kratos gets off his train one station early to save money
I hope he will beat that rubbish mentality of Thor into submission.
Very well, I will go along with this
2:59:00
"...it reminds me of the Captain Toad levels..."
Now I have the mental image of an angry, Toad version of Kratos grumpily waddling around Captain Toad levels. Thanks for that!
I imagined the same thing but with Toad screaming "BOI" or "ARES!!" in his abnormally squeaky voice
Someones clearly not seen that Game Grumps animated.
I have yet to play on the hardest difficulty (one playthrough on Hard mode) and the stuns on runic attacks failing is consistently noticeable to me. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Most often than not they are the reason I die. I would argue the cause of 90% of my deaths was either a rune attack failing to stun when it was supposed to, accidentally entering an area with enemies that significantly outleveled me, or loading a checkpoint with too low health that I was instantly killed by a projectile before the screen faded in. Your final rant about gameplay, despite what you claim (not blaming you, blaming the game) is applicable to playing on all difficulties, not just the hardest.
Its todally ruined!!!!bullshit story,bad combat.....it just shines goodtill you see its fucked up!!!
The game BULLSHIT!and i was a fan!
Sounds like a skill issue
Exactly what a fan boy would say. Those are valid points, but I know you're not serious. @@saulromero2635
Cory said they had enough material for two God of War games and they had to cut a lot out which is probably why the next game for PS5 won't take 5 years to make. As much as I hated you taking away my Santa Claus you had very valid points that I mostly agree with.
fuckface unstoppable what’s wrong with a game genre?
Of all the 3 hour long UA-cam videos, game critics, I like your writing style the most. It's less pretentious and adds some humour.
I really enjoy that change from his videos. It’s hard to watch a 3 hour long video without humor
I mean, he was a writer.
@@quinnwhiteley1096 ok?
Watch MrCaption instead. He's a much better analyst and has plenty of humor as well.
@@danielwilson5450 Not instead, but in between. Both have their merits and both are equally entertaining. No need to just shit all over a guy in his own comment section while lifting someone else on a pedestal. 😂😂😂
Me at the 25 minute mark: "Wow this has been such an interesting and knowledgable video...I wonder how much longer it is."
Sees that it's 3 hours.
Me: I'm off to get snacks.
Darek Baird Ikr, I was chilling, about to playing Titan Fall 2. Clicked this video, got sucked in with a very well done video. Checked to see where I was, 33 minute mark.... just thought “I’ll watch a little longer, maybe I’ll find a nice stoping point” Cut to me 2 hours later on the start screen still watching
@@crow2989 I play games like COD and Titan Fall 2 while listening to videos like this on youtube. Don't know why it just makes grinding for unlocks go by faster or so it seems...won't do it with games like Rainbow Six Siege but that's because of how important sound is in a game like that.
That was me at 40 minutes in.
Welcome to Joseph Anderson
Did you come back with snacks yet
Coming back to this video years later chapter marks would be nice, I’ve watched this video 5 times so thank you for the content
As someone who played this game without playing the previous games, the story still holds up. It adds a sort of mystery that is very interesting to see through the game. Playing as a new person to the series is like viewing Kratos as Atreus with intrigue and excitement
Play God of war 3 and then play this again and let me know :))
@@thewanderingartists I played all of them, and THIS is by far the best one!
@@GhostAemaeth2501 good to know that :)
God of war 2018 is definitely an amazing game
But to get the best experience you have to play the previous games
The reason it is good in the first place is BECAUSE of the previous ones
@@noro329 I mean that’s just not true, I played god of war blind and then played 3, I don’t find it any better or worse of a game after I learned the full story lol
I'm a newer fan, I subscribed with the first witcher video. I'm not sure my feedback will be heard, but I love when you gush about the things you appreciate about a game. I prefer it actually. Your way of praising a game is very insightful. Just saying this in response to what you said about us being here for the criticism. I love your criticism, but not only.
Welcome to the club
Joseph Anderson's mom is burning in hell
I just thought about something, when he mentioned that modi is taken by surprise that magni was killed, it could be linked to how he mentioned magni and modi are the few people who actually survive ragnarok. Maybe they had assumed they were basically immune to being killed but since kratos interferes with ragnarok itself thats why he was caught off guard. But that would imply they all knew their own fates
I believe norse mythology has multiple gods with perfect foresight. Its cosmology is deterministic.
Kratos is not supposed to be there, so he threw a wrench in the works.
to be fair part of "Odin's wrath" most likely is Baldur. He's obviously largely acting of his own volition, but he's also almost definitely acting under Odin's orders, it also explains how he's able to travel where-ever, whenever, Odin. It kinda brings up other major plot holes if you think too much about it, but it's also possible I'm thinking about it in a flawed way.
I finished GoW 2 times while listening to this video
Which difficulties?
@david waddell hmmm
TheCivildecay no you didn’t.
Mexymack 1130 is ever heard of sarcasm
The world record for speedrunning the game is slightly shorter than this video
7:15 Fun Fact:
this video was originally cut to be exactly 3 hours long because JA is that good,
but then he decided this f*** up was too good not to include.
This video is almost a masterpiece.
My fav moment
Fun fact: you are a liar on the internet, go get a real job
Great review! While I don't agree with all your criticisms I do agree with you that the RPG mechanics hold the combat back a little.
Hello there
not a perfect game for sure, but is a real masterpiece.
Should've brought this video up during the interview with the director for ragnarok!
@K C You killed a lot of gods in each of the games from the original trilogy. Also, most of his criticisms are valid. This video is better feedback for the developers than the majority of reviews. People like you is why the gaming industry is in a bad place.
@K C "in each of" meaning, each individual title had a lot of bombastic over-the-top god killing fights. And even in the entries with only 4ish god killing fights they tend to patch that up with even more giant monster fights.
God of W4r is pretty light in comparison.
To note: this isn't commenting on whether that is a good thing or not. This game obviously is going for a different type of thing.
I may be in the minority but I like how slow and tedious travel is, given the fact that the story is so rich and involved it makes it feel like less of a video game and that I’m actually experiencing the world with kratos
I’d argue the opposite, that the tediousness and limitations of the movement are a constant reminder of how video-gamey the world is instead of a more natural feeling movement system (like the video pointed out, walls that seem easily climbable, obvious easy jumps that Kratos refuses to make, etc)
I liked it for exclusively the boat “in fact I tended to favour it over the fast travel in my first playthrough)
What I hated was that there weren’t enough stories and most of them were linked to the lore tablets
I think the critique here is more that the trick to hide loading times doesn't justify its own existence, and ditto the trick to force use of Atreus. Because you _are_ playing a video game. Trying to disguise it as one-shot cinema leads to some silly excesses, and it's also nice when the game lets you play the game instead of stopping to make you send an NPC to play the game for you for a few seconds with a canned animation.
Agree, the slow methodical nature of it really vibes with me.
@@ParkerTotten30 I think you are mostly right, traversal works great if you are not doing 100%. I never found it annoying until i had to return multiple times to previous areas for completion. I think the game should make moving around easier after you finish it but I also understand that at release this would have almost been impossible due to the limitations of the PS4
seeing modded skyrim as a stand in for nintendo games footage still makes me chuckle
49:27 Most commendable that the World Serpent knows the exact amount of water to drain for you to be able to dock at the newly revealed areas.
God I can’t stop laughing when he starts talking about Nintendo games and he has replacement footage of modded Skyrim because of Nintendo’s strict policy. Goes to show how the mods for Skyrim is nearly limitless too.
Playing Skyrim:
Noob: "So when do I finish playing?"
Pro: "That's the fun part, you don't."
@@thaneofwhiterun3562 cringe
@@DeyRapingEveryone Said the nurse when you were born
@@thaneofwhiterun3562 slam dunk
@@thaneofwhiterun3562 your little skyrim roleplay was still cringe though
Watched this at least 3 times now in anticipation for his critic on Ragnarok. Who else?
2:03:20
I think you were a bit unfair with the second visit to Helheim, at least plot and dialogue-wise (I agree with you on the repetitiveness of the gameplay). It's not as stupid or incomprehensible as you make it out to be.
When he talks about the illusion and how it wasn't him, he's not talking about his literal identity and that being someone else. It's about identity. "That wasn't me" doesn't imply he doesn't remember but he's saying "I can't believe I did that, that is not something I would do". He's having trouble conciliating his actions with his opinion of himself. In a way, he's rejecting the idea that, because he's a god, he must be an asshole (as Kratos taught him).
Later on, when Atreus says "that was an illusion, it wasn't me" and he talks about how he "couldn't have done that", he's talking about how realizing that Helheim messes with you and shows illusions about your worst side, but those moments don't define you. So he's not talking about the illusion being a double of him (that would indeed be stupidly literal) but that the moment portrayed by the vision doesn't define his identity. He's not a god-killing revenge-seeking warrior like his father, he's Atreus, and he's not going to let Helheim try to convince him otherwise.
This is a great scene because Atreus succeeds at doing what Kratos fails at immediately after. When Helheim shows Kratos the image of his own past (a moment you mention in passing at 2:03:54), he can't shake it off. Unlike Atreus, Kratos is too caught up on what being a god means to him. And he doesn't break free until Atreus talks him out of it, because Atreus is NOT convinced that he must be evil because he's a god. Kratos' main motivation for leaving his past behind is Atreus, and Atreus doesn't care what Kratos was or did before ("You saw..." "There's no time! We gotta go!". Atreus doesn't dwell on it). And now Atreus has taught Kratos something, instead of it being the other way around.
Scrolled down in my leisurely watch to post about this but you did it a lot better than me. Nice one.
I was surprised he misunderstood that considering he is a writer himself
That explanation... Contradicts itself
Macaroni and Cliches you wouldn’t mind elaborating would you? Because I genuinely fail to see how and would like to understand your statement
well-written
1:27:00
I've seen this video maybe 3 times, and it was only after watching Joseph's streams on Persona 5 that I finally got why it went black-n-white for the word "useless"
Keeping in-house memes active, very impressive
Without that context (this is only the third video of his that I've seen), it still has witty humor to it.
Me, telling my future son about Joseph Anderson: His stories were brief, and purposeful.
Boy: Sounds...fun?
Brief, huh?
My biggest gripe with combat in this game is how impossible it felt to predict the enemy movements. The revenants and dark elves in particular have a tendency to teleport or jump away without any windup and in the middle of their own animations
Sounds like you need to git gud
2:22:09 he starts showing numerous problems with the combat that become apparent thanks to the "Give Me God of War Mode" telling someone to "get gud" doesn't excuse the problems it.
@@yesyoucanchange6065 and they fixed none of it for Ragnarok.
Kamera
Combo meter
Puzzles
there is more but THESE 3 THINGS MAKES A GOD OF WAR game.
They ruined the kamera fully!!!!fight System looks soooo good that you dont get its huge bullshit!!!hitting while magik,fast turn issues,no weapin change when shield(soooo dumb).
Now the real problems.
1.riding a yak
2.atreus
3.boi
4.loki
Whatever
5.pussy kratos crying around like a bitch(so awoke and humble now)....
6.no puzzles at all.not ONE REAL PUZZLE.(WHAT IS THIS????)
7.Hours with boi for his first date....
8.comor fighting
9.odin🤣🤣🤣
10.bla bla bla bla bla bla from everyone instead kratos(hhhrmpff,grrr,grumml,grmpf,no,yes,......)
11.killing giants but 1hit drougar you dead
12.way tooooo easy
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And there are many points more.only good thing is the graffiks and the fight with heimdall(the cutszene,rest is look trough after 10minutes like every boss!!!)
Sorry my bad eng!
@@yesyoucanchange6065 yes!!!!!at the beginn i thought they made it better till i got its tofally ruined!!!no god of war at all
About the boss in Helheim and Atreus' behavior :
- The giant bird was supposed to be a boss at first, with its own sequence in the game, but it has been cut out mid-development for money restrictions.
- Atreus' attitude was supposed to change more smoothly and slowly, for the specific reasons you mentioned, but MANY things have been cut out of the game (either money restrictions, or just space itself).
So yeah, Barlog thought of these things, but he could not change them afterwards, especially due to the fact that 6 months before release, the game was far from finished, so it must have been a really tough final phase !
And about the next game, Barlog mentioned that while writing this one, they realized that they had gone way too far, and they were actually writing a LOT of stuff that would have to end up in the second game. So, given the fact that we have most of the story, the graphics, the characters and mechanics ; The fact that they started working on this one on December 2013 to release it 4 1/2 years later, i hope the next one will come out mid/end 2020. Fingers crossed !
i was looking at that fucking bird the whole time. i was like -will it fly?BUT WILL IT FLY?
That is an incorrect usage of a semicolon.
@@aiGeis
You're an incorrect use of space.
Knowing this makes the game click much more. The entire story arc of the game almost feels like you finished a first area or boss, not an entire game taking away the character development. If Atreus and Kratos didn't get as developed as they were from the beginning to the end of the game I might even say the entire game's story was just plain bad and unfinished. The final boss almost seemed like it was added last minute because they realized that they couldn't put together the finale they really wanted to do.
You see the bird flying after you while in the boat if you look back before hitting the temple
"You've struck gold with that combat system and there's Platinum a little further down if you keep on digging"
I see what you did there !
As he shows Metal Gear Rising too. That's how you make a good, satisfying pun.
@@MegaEthernal
What is the pun youre referring to?
@@aboxofspinfusors7173 Platinum games, studio that makes really good Action games, like Bayonetta and Metal gear Rising.
the "unique series turned into a racing game" example you gave is basically what happened to banjo kazooie lol
I prefer the original Banjo Kazooie game but Nuts & Bolts is a more unique game, without a doubt.
The truth to this hurts me deeply...
If rumors are true it’s also what’s going to happen to starfox
And Jack and Daxter
Thank you I thought his reference was obvious also Jak X Combat racing was good.
Great analysis! I agree with most of your points and can respect all of them. I really would like to hear your opinion on this game’s sequel - God of War Ragnarok.
While Ragnarok game did improve and flourish some aspects of this game, like adding mods to skills and allowing you to disable them. And more verticality/involvement of the environment in combat, I feel they doubled down with some of the issues with GoW 2018, like the mixed pacing, poor traversal and unskipabble ‘walky-talkies’.
The padding you speak of is hidden loading screens. So take your pick of black screens with a spinning GOW axe or padding.
Slick Willy I think he mentioned that, and how it could arguably take longer to load that new area before loading the next section
At least loading screens have tips on them, unlike just standing there doing nothing
@@B0K0691 like what? The floor here is made out floor like thats kind of sht?
Yeah. Weird that he nitpicks some really inconsequential details but somehow manages to miss this glaringly obvious addition.
Jayne Dodd That’s exactly what Mimir does though...? Unless you’d rather have a reel of 20 of mostly unhelpful tips than well told stories...?
Idk, I found the boy's sudden "omg I'm a god"-turn to arrogance pretty believable: he's literally a child who was just told he's "superior" to everyone around him. To him, being a God signifies being able to do whatever he wants because he's a child. His dad not really knowing how to handle that was annoying but also understandable.
still hasn't stopped me from wanting to back hand him after the comment about his mom.
@@Cdaiger93 deputy meal.
That would be fine in a vacuum, but we know who Atreus is as a character. Since the start of the game he has been depicted as this innocence in this bleak cold world, one that showed compassion to every character he interacted with on his journey even to animals. Then we flip the switch and the good boy just turns into a dickhead to everyone undeservedly. If this attitude was directed primarily at Kratos it would be understandable. He just learned that his father is a God and should re-contextualize his entire relationship with him. Kratos's stoic and distant demeanor can now be interpreted as just another God who cares little for him and anyone in his path. Instead Atreus decides to embody that mentality and the arc plays out as a reflection of Kratos when it should have been a reflection on Atreus himself.
@@Cdaiger93 solid comment, Idk how kratos didn't give him the ol belt after that
@@MegaOverclocked well power corrupts. Ive known some people that were that nice until they werent. And Children even the most respectful can and will be assholes. It was a bit to sudden yes but it fits. He is inmature and stupid at times (but in character so its not like its a bad thing) BOI I cant wait to see what other stupid shit he does now in the second game
I find it funny how he teases the Blades to avoid spoiling that they're the second weapon yet he shows them off before talking about them.
Over a year after playing I watch this video and feel a weight lifted hearing you call the stagger mechanic bullshit. I thought I was going to go crazy trying to figure out what I was doing wrong and stopped playing Give Me God of War difficulty after getting to the helheim valkyrie and dying to it over and over again
I hate her so much.
Bro the helheim Valkyrie is making me want to die