Don't get me wrong but somehow I felt that as long as the job is not done by the tile guy himself but by someone else.. he'll always say it's a bad tile job..😂😂
I've seen pro's do waaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than this, I don't know that I'd call this a "bad" job. If this was waterproofed correctly it will last many years and look decent. The caulk lines are kind of fat but at least they are even.
Just an opinion. If you perform contract work, you will know that at times you are at the mercy of the material quantity and clients. Looks good. Perspective is everything. It's a shower and its tile, majority of the time their eyes will be crusted over when in there.
@@dependableservices01 Thanks for that full quote. Yeah that pisses me off. I'm a Jack (and really fucking good, put masters to shame). But I clearly define to my clients what I *don't* do, I know my limitations: No carpet, no HVAC, no roofing, no cabinets, no gutters, no sprinklers, no concrete over 150sqft (I will attempt to repair all above, just not install- licensing is a cunt and I don't want to invest in the tools). The issue I have with fellow "handymen" is they really don't know what the fuck they are doing. Gives me a bad reputation right off the bat cause I am, 'a handyman'.
I mean....doesn't seem THAT big a deal to be honest. Yes they didn't do some things perfect but still looks pretty decent to me and I wouldn't complain.
I'm tiling my first bathroom and it's very slow going bc I'm constantly checking and making sure my layout is pin point. Sal is correct that's laziness.
You got me on that one, I always do the side walls a full and 1/2 just like that one because that's how they taught me, (I do my vertical layout, so I have the size tile on top and bottom) but, from now on I will do it the right way. I don't install tile for living but my goal is to perform the best way possible for the customers, even if takes me 2 times the time someone like you would it, that's why I follow your videos. Thank you Sal.
@@jacobmiller5834 like most things in life, taste is subjective. They hired him to install the tile and not give his negative opinion regarding the tile.
I Agree Sal, it was definitely a lazy set out. The Tiling is not bad but the set out is a fail. It's actually very productive criticising poor set out's as this is the final overall long lasting image of the total aesthetics of a finished tiling job so you should always take meticulous care in your setting out of any job because detail certainly does matter as Sal mentions 👌
I absolutely agree with you Sal. It makes me crazy if my tile isn't symmetrical. Your right about the lipage. A little is ok, but I use the leveling systems to avoid it. You still get some little lipage here and there, even with the leveling systems, but it makes the job go so much faster and cleaner. Thanks again Sal for all your great work.
Personally I spend more time on messing with my layout than I should sometimes, I catch myself getting caught in the little details than is necessary sometimes. But I haven’t had a single callback on my work being an issue except for one job, I had a helper who wasn’t paying attention to my layout it was suppose to be 1/3 offset but he did a standard brickset, I should have been more attentive to his work but I dropped the ball and it cost me two days of work and I had to purchase all new materials. I won’t that mistake twice. But I agree the details absolutely matter
There is a third reason maybe. I did my own bathroom and because I never did that before, I failed to check if my ceiling was straight, the studs and the bathtub. When I saw that the bathtub was not straight and that my wall tiles would not line-up properly, I was too far into what I was doing to remove the bathtub and put it back straight. Therefore, I ended-up with a thick bead of silicone at the bottom, where bathtub meets the firs row of tiles. It was a good lesson for me: check all plains before beginning the work, to see if everything is straight. In my defense, why don;t people put things straight to begin with and not make my life harder when I try to do some work? lol
@Eusunt Dac. Over many years the house settles and planes fall out of plumb, level. Where it gets tricky is when the studs are misaligned and you have to recalibrate the blocking.
Never say that the tile your customer picks is crap. If that's what they like so be it. Express your concern with the product to them. Unless it has a potential to be dangerous.
I tend to appreciate Sal's directness in his videos, but yeah, I agree with you here. I'd be less than happy if I found my house on youtube getting slammed by one of my contractors.
I'm guessing the front entry matches the bricks outside. A Japanese "genkan" is considered part of the outdoors, hence it makes sense to match the brick outside. It's not about making the tile installer look like a god.
He didn’t say it to the customer. And he also says “IN MY OPINION” Just like how I can say in my opinion your comment makes you seem like you’re intellectually disabled.
Sal, they're stuck with the corners but do you think that using white caulk at the tub and ceiling line would help diminish that fat caulk line? I think matching the ceiling and tub color would help minimize its appearance. But yeah, they were lazy.
I've had to spackle the ceiling several times to get the tiles to match all the way around. I don't think I ever seen a complete level ceiling in the bath tub area. I cant stand doing all that tile work and you get to the ceiling and its uneven. Makes me nuts. So I level the ceiling even though I don't get paid for it. It has to be level. So I understand where Sal is coming from. Thanks for posting dude!
I leave 1/16 inch gap between tile and bath and silicone that with a 1/8th bead of silicone. It looks better than a 1/4in bead, BUT it will crack if the bath/shower base has some flex. Try 1/8 to begin with, and redo a bigger one if it cracks. Half the time it will crack, specially with an acrylic base.
I’d take like to take a better look at your work before you bash someone else’s so hard. Doesn’t really look like your work is as clean as you think it is. You spend 2 seconds showing your work, with noticeable mistakes. Then go on to spend so much time picking apart some one else’s.
Do you know what I’d like to see? I have a situation where my tile contractor didn’t notice some really ugly defects on a 2’x2’ floor tile in my washroom over Schluter ditra heat floor. Now he’s scared to remove the tile. I’d love to see a video on best practice to remove a tile to minimize potential damage to heat cable. I already wired up the cable and used a thermal camera to mark where the cable is under the tile. I’m planning on using a oscillating tool to remove grout around tile, then use an angle grinder to cut lines in tile parallel to heat cables but centered between them and then smash tile strips out with hammer. I would love to see how you would approach it.
Thermal camera is really good thinking. How did the demo go? I’m in the tile guys camp, wouldnt want to remove tile from a heated floor. Gotta be really careful.
Demo went great. Changed my strategy though. I double layer taped the adjacent tiles, to not chip them on the edges. Then I took a utility knife and cut away at the grout. With the grout removed and the wires marked, I hit the tile with a ball hammer (rounded end) between where the wires were. Tile broke fine. Took many hits and much chipping away. Then I took a margin trowel and used a hammer on it to chip away thinset without making contact with the wire. Very tedious work but the attention to detail and patience worked out. With the hard part done, no one wants to put the tile back in. So I guess that's mine to take over too.
Why do you consider that brick a "crap, garbage tile"? I want to have a brick floor in my kitchen, but my joists can't handle the weight, so I was going to go with the MSI red brick ceramic tile, which looks a lot like this one.
Brick can be cut down into slices ,one brick equals two finish sided slices for a very cultured look,ANYBODY can do it,Find some old brick you like and have an installer rip em down ,Just a thought 😀
@@napolitanotile2919 Thank you, but according to the Tile Geeks calculator, my 8" joists can barely handle ceramic tile, so I don't want to chance anything heavier.
This job was mostlikely done by a jack of all trades. Question. 1. What would you have done on the side wall move the window 2 inches to the left or leave a gap ? 2.what would you have done on the wall with faucets off set the line?
U and i would notice those little things cuz that were our eyes would look for.. the average home owner wouldnt notice that. Most home owner have their own bathroom.. and from a distance it looks good.. keep up the good work tho. Your videos are very informative..👍👍
Guess they do that sort of entrance in New England. Need a place to take off your snow boots. Would like to know what Captain Sal would have done differently.
Looks better than mine...i have a bad wave in my corner, didnt notice until the next day. Might have to pull that half inch caulk trick ... First time doing it
Didn’t they mess the layout, because with all the walls they should have started from the middle of the walls out to the sides? If the first tile you set it’s not centered, all those edges will be different?
Hi Sal. Love your videos. I have a bathroom that seems to have a really nice upgrade of tiled floor, shower and paint. My question for you is, why after about five years, the grout seems to be wearing away and the paint on the drywall seems to peel in some areas? There is also a brown orange residue that is on the walls like the painting is crying..... This is so weird and I've seen that same thing on the paint in the hallway. Is this a moisture issue like the shower fan isn't working properly? What can I do to mitigate this?
Hi meg. Just incase sal doesnt have the time I thought I'd try and answer some of your questions. He is truly a master Tiler! I do alot of kitchens and bathrooms myself including decorating etc. The peeling paint you mention, if it's been plastered, before painting you must " seal " the plaster, or do a " wash coat " it's sometimes called. Basically a mixture of emulsion paint and water, which is painted on first as the new plaster will soak it up and hopefully help prevent any paint from peeling, it helps the paint to stick and bond well. I've done countless jobs where you can peel paint off the wall like paper normally due to the plaster not being sealed. The orange brownish stuff sounds like a water staining of some sort. If not treated with a stain blocker or specialist type paint " zinnser B-I-N PRIMER " is very good, you will get any stains " bleed " through your top colour of paint. If you've noticed in your hallway, I'd suggest it sounds like this, especially if on a ceiling etc, can be a good indicator of any previous leaks etc that have occurred. The grout can sometimes crack and bits fall off if it's a thin grout line, or theres movement for whatever reason, grout mixed up with too much water that has weakened it, bit tricky to definitively say. Anyway I hope this has helped in some way. Wishing you all the best
Tile installers don't get paid enough to be focusing on those details. Iknow I've done it. Though they should! It's art! Customers just want it fast and cheap
Idk if you were union but everything used to be numbers. Whatever is the fastest way. They do it. Start with a full and whatever it is, it is. Its still like that. So idk if its lazy as much as time. They get to go home when they are done.
I always wanted to be a tile contractor. Handsome and bad knees and bleeding fingers from strawberries. I became a plumber because of Farrah's Faucet and Olivia Newton's John. I have so much experience I can't bite my finger nails anymore!
Honestly this is a mirror image of my bathtub/shower. Except I did it myself and it was my first time ever. It bugs me now because now I know better, but no one else notices. My theory is try it myself first and learn, I can always pay someone to fix it later.
Im a plumber. Me and my boys bust each others balls all the time for stupid shit, 99% of the time non trades people will not know, and 80% of the time trades people wont know unless they are in that specific trade. That looks totally fine to me. Maybe those caulk joints look worse in person. But you gotta realize most people just see tile.
I am trying to avoid this issue on my shower. Still having a had time understanding how to do a proper layout. My brain is just not comprehending how to do it properly. luckily I have time to complete and continue to research.
That drives me crazy. Spend all that time installing backer board and tile perfect just to screw it up at the very end. I'm the most nervous running my caulk
The full tile at bottom of tub deck, i dont disagree with but if measured from top to bottom all that needed to be done was opening the joints to avoid the half inch gap at ceiling. 1/32" extra on every row would eliminate the gap at top. Simple math, measure...drylay on floor and go from there
Most likely either a DIY job or inexperienced tiler and not a lazy tiler. I wish Sal could see the tile job in my bathrooms, supposedly done by professional tilers before I bought the house from the builder. One small shower has every width grout line you could imagine, from 0 to about 1/2”. It’s especially noticeable where 4 tiles meet and all the grout lines are different, not to mention lippage, misalignment, sloppy and uneven cuts, etc. The tile floors in the bath are about the same. One threshold has about a 3/4” grout fill. And the builder accepted such crappy work (lowest bidder, I’m sure)! I redid the master bath myself with no tile experience (but lots of Sal’s videos) and it’s 1000% better than before.
If that is a DIY job all of you should just quit right now lol because that's really really good, i wouldn't mind that one bit regardless of the caulk lines lol
Got to say could have, used praps a larger joint, so the tiles fitted better at the top, im not there so can't say for sure, but i do know if you were to cut the tiles down some customers hate the smaller cuts, praps agree, with the rest possibly, but i can spend ages sometimes setting stuff out, and iv been doin since the 80s, just like others have said, most people getaway with tiling like that and you wonder why you bother, it's either in you to go a bit further or not., and also sometimes they don't fit in the way you Wanna and have to go through it with the customer to show them why your doin it such a way.
He is quick to criticize other peoples tiling but loves his own work. Being a tiler myself, I could pick the crap out of his tiling work. There is no such thing as the perfect job.
Would a solution be to add another piece of drywall on top of the ceiling then it would bring it down 1/2 “ to get rid of that thick grout line Why did the homeowners hire you and didn’t bring those other tiling guys back who did the bathroom? Or did they not want to come back…
Hes right about the side walls, they should both be the same and that would eliminate the small tile in corner, on the left wall......But😂, this is what this guy does.....he goes from job to job and picks apart others guys work. Ive seen it in multiple videos that Sal posted in the past. Why he does this..? I don't know, what I do know is that his experience exceeds most of us so im guessing hes sick of seeing half ass layouts and half ass workmanship in the industry. I dont blame him on that because im a tiler myself and have done too many rescues and/or repairs on others work. The tile industry is filled, overfilled with hacks and pretenders...I dont blame him. Hes bringing awareness if anything
Why would you call other trade guy a lazy when you never know what was the situation is at the time. Also as professional i can see it but from homeowner prospective I don’t think it will be noticeable to them. Regards.
I am surprise that he didn’t mention the simple a little bit bigger grout joint size option since it seems like a 1/32-1/16 from the video.At the end it is about information/éducation otherwise people would watch StarrTile guy.Long time of Sal but do not agree here or room for improvement.
I understand the issue with the tub but sometimes it's the owner, the budget and since everything else looked good, I would say it was a time a budget deal not a bad tile guy.
Yeah it’s not that bad. The installer was probably trying to minimize cutting and scrap. Sometimes the most attractive layout requires some extra waste.
Sal time for us to judge your work at 43 seconds tile ends not flush with the counter. At 1.11 bottom right side the grout lines are not matching can’t even tell if you have any grout lines. Tiles are only as good as the installer, and if you say they are garbage tiles…
Definitely hoping Sal never sees some of my early tile jobs 😂. The only good thing I can say about some of my early work is at least it's in my own house!
Looks better than my tile. Yah details matter. Might not be lazzy.. might be lack of experience. They likely stood back when done and then realized some of those flaws. I am sure you sir were not always perfect. Dont point the finger and call it shitwork. Nothing wrong with pointing out a better way to do something.
The sad thing is, 99% of homeowners think that the tile job in that bathtub/shower is Beautiful and GREAT! AWESOME. That’s the sad part, b/c Tile guys/gals know the truth! Imo, Details always matter, and what’s makes a good tile job EXQUISITELY GREAT! Cheers✌🏻
Oh whatever, that tile looks fine 🙄
Yes he said the tile does, the layout doesnt.
It’s probably not even a tile guy that did it
Don't get me wrong but somehow I felt that as long as the job is not done by the tile guy himself but by someone else.. he'll always say it's a bad tile job..😂😂
i don’t think it’s looks bad at all, not perfect but stil looks nice
I do like the thicker grouts around the outside and corner edges, just seems to give it an umph.
I’m not sure, I could be wrong, but I don’t think Sal likes the red brick floor tile.
😂
Red mud in his tile saw pan probably annoyed him..
I've seen pro's do waaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than this, I don't know that I'd call this a "bad" job. If this was waterproofed correctly it will last many years and look decent. The caulk lines are kind of fat but at least they are even.
you have a very low standard for the term "pro" then.
Just an opinion. If you perform contract work, you will know that at times you are at the mercy of the material quantity and clients. Looks good. Perspective is everything. It's a shower and its tile, majority of the time their eyes will be crusted over when in there.
As a tile guy I 100% agree with you. I wonder how many homeowners would really even notice?
Lol @ you been a real tile setter with the name handy man garanteed this job was done by a handy man jack of all trades like your self lmao
Jack of All Trades Master of None But Still Always Better Than a Master of One. .. "That's the full saying" (most people don't know that.)
@@dependableservices01 theres a reason why people changed it cuz if you something done right done once you call a proffessional
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Thanks for that full quote. Yeah that pisses me off. I'm a Jack (and really fucking good, put masters to shame). But I clearly define to my clients what I *don't* do, I know my limitations: No carpet, no HVAC, no roofing, no cabinets, no gutters, no sprinklers, no concrete over 150sqft (I will attempt to repair all above, just not install- licensing is a cunt and I don't want to invest in the tools).
The issue I have with fellow "handymen" is they really don't know what the fuck they are doing. Gives me a bad reputation right off the bat cause I am, 'a handyman'.
OP, most customers won't. That's something I joke with my clients about, "Don't ask me to find problems, I will" lol.
Sal not everyone can go to Tile School so we come here to learn, so what did you actually teach in this video?
Not always teaching, sometimes just pointing out how bad tile work is accepted.
I mean....doesn't seem THAT big a deal to be honest. Yes they didn't do some things perfect but still looks pretty decent to me and I wouldn't complain.
So you pay someone a lot of money to do a professional install, then settle for DIY results?
I'm tiling my first bathroom and it's very slow going bc I'm constantly checking and making sure my layout is pin point. Sal is correct that's laziness.
😊👍
You got me on that one, I always do the side walls a full and 1/2 just like that one because that's how they taught me, (I do my vertical layout, so I have the size tile on top and bottom) but, from now on I will do it the right way. I don't install tile for living but my goal is to perform the best way possible for the customers, even if takes me 2 times the time someone like you would it, that's why I follow your videos. Thank you Sal.
Good video, but I really don't think your customers appreciate you calling their tile choice crap
Either it is or it isn't.
@@jacobmiller5834 like most things in life, taste is subjective. They hired him to install the tile and not give his negative opinion regarding the tile.
I Agree Sal, it was definitely a lazy set out. The Tiling is not bad but the set out is a fail. It's actually very productive criticising poor set out's as this is the final overall long lasting image of the total aesthetics of a finished tiling job so you should always take meticulous care in your setting out of any job because detail certainly does matter as Sal mentions 👌
Thanks for watching my video.
You know you messed up when UA-cam’s best tile guy roasts your tile choices, haha!
Is he UA-cam best title guy?
@Ron Watson. A few tile guys are convinced they are God's gift to their industry. Sal is one of them.
I absolutely agree with you Sal. It makes me crazy if my tile isn't symmetrical. Your right about the lipage. A little is ok, but I use the leveling systems to avoid it. You still get some little lipage here and there, even with the leveling systems, but it makes the job go so much faster and cleaner. Thanks again Sal for all your great work.
Noone ever gonna notice that except a pro tile guy . Regular people don't care that much as long as it looks good and doesn't leak
Sal just likes talking he salty he didnt get the job and throwing installers under the bus regardless sure lol
Personally I spend more time on messing with my layout than I should sometimes, I catch myself getting caught in the little details than is necessary sometimes. But I haven’t had a single callback on my work being an issue except for one job, I had a helper who wasn’t paying attention to my layout it was suppose to be 1/3 offset but he did a standard brickset, I should have been more attentive to his work but I dropped the ball and it cost me two days of work and I had to purchase all new materials. I won’t that mistake twice. But I agree the details absolutely matter
Me too lol. Everyone ribs me about being slow, but no call backs in the past 10 yrs
How did your helper mess up the offset, did you let him install?
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Lmao right?
Choose two:
Fast
Cheap
Good
@@michaelgriggle5601 I want to become a tiler what do you recommend any books or resources?Thx bro
My 70 year old grandmother did that tile Sal! We are all proud of her work. 🤣🤣
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Great job on the shower tile I would pay for that install!
If your ceiling is out of level do you gaudge up to highest part of ceiling then cut tiles on last coarse to lower out of level ceiling
There is a third reason maybe. I did my own bathroom and because I never did that before, I failed to check if my ceiling was straight, the studs and the bathtub. When I saw that the bathtub was not straight and that my wall tiles would not line-up properly, I was too far into what I was doing to remove the bathtub and put it back straight. Therefore, I ended-up with a thick bead of silicone at the bottom, where bathtub meets the firs row of tiles. It was a good lesson for me: check all plains before beginning the work, to see if everything is straight. In my defense, why don;t people put things straight to begin with and not make my life harder when I try to do some work? lol
*planes
Just helping
@Eusunt Dac. Over many years the house settles and planes fall out of plumb, level. Where it gets tricky is when the studs are misaligned and you have to recalibrate the blocking.
Sal what is the best layout for
6 x 24 with leveling clips?
Never say that the tile your customer picks is crap. If that's what they like so be it. Express your concern with the product to them. Unless it has a potential to be dangerous.
I tend to appreciate Sal's directness in his videos, but yeah, I agree with you here. I'd be less than happy if I found my house on youtube getting slammed by one of my contractors.
I'm guessing the front entry matches the bricks outside. A Japanese "genkan" is considered part of the outdoors, hence it makes sense to match the brick outside. It's not about making the tile installer look like a god.
@@michaeld2613 Lol yes this. Saying it’s crap taste is pretty bad.
He didn’t say it to the customer. And he also says “IN MY OPINION”
Just like how I can say in my opinion your comment makes you seem like you’re intellectually disabled.
@@0_1_2 He didn't say it to the customer. He only said it on UA-cam.
Sal, they're stuck with the corners but do you think that using white caulk at the tub and ceiling line would help diminish that fat caulk line? I think matching the ceiling and tub color would help minimize its appearance. But yeah, they were lazy.
I've had to spackle the ceiling several times to get the tiles to match all the way around. I don't think I ever seen a complete level ceiling in the bath tub area. I cant stand doing all that tile work and you get to the ceiling and its uneven. Makes me nuts. So I level the ceiling even though I don't get paid for it. It has to be level. So I understand where Sal is coming from. Thanks for posting dude!
Should the caulk line be the same width as the grout line?
I leave 1/16 inch gap between tile and bath and silicone that with a 1/8th bead of silicone. It looks better than a 1/4in bead, BUT it will crack if the bath/shower base has some flex. Try 1/8 to begin with, and redo a bigger one if it cracks. Half the time it will crack, specially with an acrylic base.
If your looking for a reason to complain You will always find a reason. This guy
I’d take like to take a better look at your work before you bash someone else’s so hard. Doesn’t really look like your work is as clean as you think it is. You spend 2 seconds showing your work, with noticeable mistakes. Then go on to spend so much time picking apart some one else’s.
Layouts were always tricky for me when I started doing tile. I did my best to never have slivers
Do you know what I’d like to see? I have a situation where my tile contractor didn’t notice some really ugly defects on a 2’x2’ floor tile in my washroom over Schluter ditra heat floor. Now he’s scared to remove the tile. I’d love to see a video on best practice to remove a tile to minimize potential damage to heat cable. I already wired up the cable and used a thermal camera to mark where the cable is under the tile. I’m planning on using a oscillating tool to remove grout around tile, then use an angle grinder to cut lines in tile parallel to heat cables but centered between them and then smash tile strips out with hammer. I would love to see how you would approach it.
Thermal camera is really good thinking. How did the demo go? I’m in the tile guys camp, wouldnt want to remove tile from a heated floor. Gotta be really careful.
Demo went great. Changed my strategy though. I double layer taped the adjacent tiles, to not chip them on the edges. Then I took a utility knife and cut away at the grout. With the grout removed and the wires marked, I hit the tile with a ball hammer (rounded end) between where the wires were. Tile broke fine. Took many hits and much chipping away. Then I took a margin trowel and used a hammer on it to chip away thinset without making contact with the wire. Very tedious work but the attention to detail and patience worked out. With the hard part done, no one wants to put the tile back in. So I guess that's mine to take over too.
3:30 why the profile on the top? Top of window trim or ceiling?
Agree. It’s not bad but it’s lacking in the fine details. Layout and prep is everything
Why do you consider that brick a "crap, garbage tile"? I want to have a brick floor in my kitchen, but my joists can't handle the weight, so I was going to go with the MSI red brick ceramic tile, which looks a lot like this one.
Brick can be cut down into slices ,one brick equals two finish sided slices for a very cultured look,ANYBODY can do it,Find some old brick you like and have an installer rip em down ,Just a thought 😀
@@napolitanotile2919 Thank you, but according to the Tile Geeks calculator, my 8" joists can barely handle ceramic tile, so I don't want to chance anything heavier.
This job was mostlikely done by a jack of all trades.
Question.
1. What would you have done on the side wall move the window 2 inches to the left or leave a gap ?
2.what would you have done on the wall with faucets off set the line?
U and i would notice those little things cuz that were our eyes would look for.. the average home owner wouldnt notice that. Most home owner have their own bathroom.. and from a distance it looks good.. keep up the good work tho. Your videos are very informative..👍👍
Guess they do that sort of entrance in New England. Need a place to take off your snow boots. Would like to know what Captain Sal would have done differently.
Looks better than mine...i have a bad wave in my corner, didnt notice until the next day. Might have to pull that half inch caulk trick ... First time doing it
Didn’t they mess the layout, because with all the walls they should have started from the middle of the walls out to the sides? If the first tile you set it’s not centered, all those edges will be different?
Your care of detail in the kitchen is about 20mm short of the benchtop!??
Hi Sal. Love your videos. I have a bathroom that seems to have a really nice upgrade of tiled floor, shower and paint. My question for you is, why after about five years, the grout seems to be wearing away and the paint on the drywall seems to peel in some areas? There is also a brown orange residue that is on the walls like the painting is crying..... This is so weird and I've seen that same thing on the paint in the hallway.
Is this a moisture issue like the shower fan isn't working properly? What can I do to mitigate this?
Hi meg.
Just incase sal doesnt have the time I thought I'd try and answer some of your questions. He is truly a master Tiler!
I do alot of kitchens and bathrooms myself including decorating etc.
The peeling paint you mention, if it's been plastered, before painting you must " seal " the plaster, or do a " wash coat " it's sometimes called. Basically a mixture of emulsion paint and water, which is painted on first as the new plaster will soak it up and hopefully help prevent any paint from peeling, it helps the paint to stick and bond well. I've done countless jobs where you can peel paint off the wall like paper normally due to the plaster not being sealed.
The orange brownish stuff sounds like a water staining of some sort. If not treated with a stain blocker or specialist type paint " zinnser B-I-N PRIMER " is very good, you will get any stains " bleed " through your top colour of paint. If you've noticed in your hallway, I'd suggest it sounds like this, especially if on a ceiling etc, can be a good indicator of any previous leaks etc that have occurred.
The grout can sometimes crack and bits fall off if it's a thin grout line, or theres movement for whatever reason, grout mixed up with too much water that has weakened it, bit tricky to definitively say.
Anyway I hope this has helped in some way.
Wishing you all the best
C. S. Lewis, said, “Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.”
They did a much better job than I could do!
Tile installers don't get paid enough to be focusing on those details. Iknow I've done it.
Though they should! It's art!
Customers just want it fast and cheap
Idk if you were union but everything used to be numbers. Whatever is the fastest way. They do it. Start with a full and whatever it is, it is. Its still like that. So idk if its lazy as much as time. They get to go home when they are done.
looks great you are rambling
I always wanted to be a tile contractor. Handsome and bad knees and bleeding fingers from strawberries. I became a plumber because of Farrah's Faucet and Olivia Newton's John. I have so much experience I can't bite my finger nails anymore!
Damn sal is going in lately lmao
Honestly this is a mirror image of my bathtub/shower. Except I did it myself and it was my first time ever. It bugs me now because now I know better, but no one else notices. My theory is try it myself first and learn, I can always pay someone to fix it later.
Video is directed to those that pay to have it done and get this. DIYers need to learn somewhere, professional outcome is not expected.
Im a plumber. Me and my boys bust each others balls all the time for stupid shit, 99% of the time non trades people will not know, and 80% of the time trades people wont know unless they are in that specific trade. That looks totally fine to me. Maybe those caulk joints look worse in person. But you gotta realize most people just see tile.
I am trying to avoid this issue on my shower. Still having a had time understanding how to do a proper layout. My brain is just not comprehending how to do it properly. luckily I have time to complete and continue to research.
Details are exactly what a great tile job consists off
In a bunch of Sals videos his caulk lines are fatter than the grout lines.
That drives me crazy. Spend all that time installing backer board and tile perfect just to screw it up at the very end. I'm the most nervous running my caulk
my wife just bought some of that garbage. why is it garbage SAL?
Watch out…Sal’s going off!!!
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Every single detail matters. One mistake can ruin the entire job and make the customer worry about what else they might not see
Add 1mm to the tile spacing and a colour matched silicone and it would look different again
That don’t look bad ..90% of people would walk in there and think that was nice..I’d hardly call it a piece of crap
That tile job looks good. The caulk lines look fine.
Looks fine for me
I guess he’s running out of bathrooms to slam.
Not perfect, but hardly a "piece of crap".
You have low standards
The full tile at bottom of tub deck, i dont disagree with but if measured from top to bottom all that needed to be done was opening the joints to avoid the half inch gap at ceiling. 1/32" extra on every row would eliminate the gap at top. Simple math, measure...drylay on floor and go from there
Most likely either a DIY job or inexperienced tiler and not a lazy tiler. I wish Sal could see the tile job in my bathrooms, supposedly done by professional tilers before I bought the house from the builder. One small shower has every width grout line you could imagine, from 0 to about 1/2”. It’s especially noticeable where 4 tiles meet and all the grout lines are different, not to mention lippage, misalignment, sloppy and uneven cuts, etc. The tile floors in the bath are about the same. One threshold has about a 3/4” grout fill. And the builder accepted such crappy work (lowest bidder, I’m sure)! I redid the master bath myself with no tile experience (but lots of Sal’s videos) and it’s 1000% better than before.
If that is a DIY job all of you should just quit right now lol because that's really really good, i wouldn't mind that one bit regardless of the caulk lines lol
Decent Job Period
Way to blast the paying customers 😂 they must’ve not paid you what you agreed on 😂💀💀💀
I think the tile in bathroom looks great
To be brutally honest it still looks better than that red brick lol
You forgot the other reason, they weren't as experienced as you if you could do it better. They did pretty good if they're newer.
Got to say could have, used praps a larger joint, so the tiles fitted better at the top, im not there so can't say for sure, but i do know if you were to cut the tiles down some customers hate the smaller cuts, praps agree, with the rest possibly, but i can spend ages sometimes setting stuff out, and iv been doin since the 80s, just like others have said, most people getaway with tiling like that and you wonder why you bother, it's either in you to go a bit further or not., and also sometimes they don't fit in the way you Wanna and have to go through it with the customer to show them why your doin it such a way.
It looks good...im pretty sure his is nof perfect...u dnt know the situation...n them subway tikes take a while to install
Look good to me
Sal all your work is above and beyond
Period. Sad but Lot of people (home owners) don’t pick up on other shabby tile work crap 💩
If you are the owner house, why you didn’t tell them?
When you’re very skilled and used to doing high quality work that you take pride in, it can put you in a dour mood to be around slop.
Tile to the surfaces giving
He is quick to criticize other peoples tiling but loves his own work. Being a tiler myself, I could pick the crap out of his tiling work.
There is no such thing as the perfect job.
Would a solution be to add another piece of drywall on top of the ceiling then it would bring it down 1/2 “ to get rid of that thick grout line
Why did the homeowners hire you and didn’t bring those other tiling guys back who did the bathroom? Or did they not want to come back…
Hes right about the side walls, they should both be the same and that would eliminate the small tile in corner, on the left wall......But😂, this is what this guy does.....he goes from job to job and picks apart others guys work. Ive seen it in multiple videos that Sal posted in the past. Why he does this..? I don't know, what I do know is that his experience exceeds most of us so im guessing hes sick of seeing half ass layouts and half ass workmanship in the industry. I dont blame him on that because im a tiler myself and have done too many rescues and/or repairs on others work. The tile industry is filled, overfilled with hacks and pretenders...I dont blame him. Hes bringing awareness if anything
Thanks for that, have to call it out if the industry has any chance of improving.
Anyone watching this that thinks there’s nothing wrong with it - it’s good but it’s not perfect. Strive for more, it’s either right or wrong.
Why would you call other trade guy a lazy when you never know what was the situation is at the time. Also as professional i can see it but from homeowner prospective I don’t think it will be noticeable to them.
Regards.
their job is to cut tiles, mix glue and put it back together. If there is no manager or home designer, than it is your fail too.
I am surprise that he didn’t mention the simple a little bit bigger grout joint size option since it seems like a 1/32-1/16 from the video.At the end it is about information/éducation otherwise people would watch StarrTile guy.Long time of Sal but do not agree here or room for improvement.
My point is dry fitting and that reach Sal’s point on Laziness but he missed the occasion of focusing on the solution wich is unproductive
Tearing out shower like that,v- notch on 3x12 tiles,not centered,pattern doesn't flow thru corners,shower floor out of level,😵😵
Looks fine. Caulk is clean. First and foremost. a clean bigger caulk joint in the crotch totally acceptable. Clean is key.
I understand the issue with the tub but sometimes it's the owner, the budget and since everything else looked good, I would say it was a time a budget deal not a bad tile guy.
What I always say details is what makes the job
Little picky.....I've seen some horrendous work
Yeah it’s not that bad. The installer was probably trying to minimize cutting and scrap. Sometimes the most attractive layout requires some extra waste.
I’ve seen far worse. Come to the uk and check out some of the crap builders leave here.
@@tracer1127 for sure
It could have been a DIY job completed by someone who doesn't spend as much time as I do watching your videos.
True…because tile work is getting so expensive…and it’s all aesthetic anyways there’s no function it’s all for looks
Could have used a slightly bigger spacer and problem solved
It’s obvious they used a darker caulk than the grout match .
I think this was probably a layout mistake more than anything, prep is the most important part
Sal time for us to judge your work at 43 seconds tile ends not flush with the counter. At 1.11 bottom right side the grout lines are not matching can’t even tell if you have any grout lines. Tiles are only as good as the installer, and if you say they are garbage tiles…
Definitely hoping Sal never sees some of my early tile jobs 😂. The only good thing I can say about some of my early work is at least it's in my own house!
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I think it looks good give them a break
I'd hate to see what you would say about my tile work 😆
Its not that bad, i would just plastic trim it up.
Looks better than my tile. Yah details matter.
Might not be lazzy.. might be lack of experience. They likely stood back when done and then realized some of those flaws.
I am sure you sir were not always perfect.
Dont point the finger and call it shitwork.
Nothing wrong with pointing out a better way to do something.
The sad thing is, 99% of homeowners think that the tile job in that bathtub/shower is Beautiful and GREAT! AWESOME. That’s the sad part, b/c Tile guys/gals know the truth!
Imo, Details always matter, and what’s makes a good tile job EXQUISITELY GREAT!
Cheers✌🏻
Yes the layout is bad, and thats the part that irks me the most sometimes.