I would like to thank you for your videos I just remodeled my entire bathroom and the job was much easier thanks to you please keep up the good work looking forward to seeing more videos thanks again I don't know how I would have did the job without you
Haha it was probably the home owner who started the tiling. Stopped half way to take a look and broke out in a sweat. To avoid shame they cooked up a story of "the baaaad tilers"
We just had a contractor send in his drywall guys to do our tub surround. He went to set our tub, ripped off the styrofoam leveling pad. I asked him if it was supposed to be on there, he said no. I asked him to do a mortar bed under the tub. He said ok. At the end of the day, I asked him if he did the mortar bed. His English was suddenly bad and he no comprende. After I clarified what I was saying, he admitted to not putting down a mortar bed. The green drywall he installed looked terrible on top of that. They did not tear out the old green board. It has gaps between pieces, no tape with thinset in gaps, and pieces are falling out. My husband was going to do red gard over the green board but the job was so shitty, I can't imagine any tile guy worth his salt would have tiled over that mess. I can't believe the shitty drywall work to begin with. I had the contractor come back and undo everything they did that day. I can assure you I, with no experience, could have done a better job than these jokers. I'd have hated to see what kind of tile guy they were going to send out! I am nervous to try tiling myself though. I did buy those 12×24 tiles. I cannot do that work, I know and I don't want to be upset with my husband if it isn't right as he doesn't have much tiling experience. But it is extremely difficult to find skilled laborers where I live. One guy gave me an estimate and he intended to use mastic in my showers! Then the contractor questioned how mastic would stick to red gard!!?? I told him you aren't supposed to use mastic in a shower. They knew nothing about mortar beds either, acted like it was rocket science. I don't think they are coming back. Oh yeah, the drywall guy closed up the area I told him to leave an opening for a plumbing access panel where shut off valves for the shower were at and he used silicone to install the tub drain when I drove an hour to get the right plumber's putty for stainless steel tubs. Total nightmare. Anyway, you make it sound like there aren't amateurs out there claiming to be skilled laborers and contractors and that only a homeowner would f up something this bad. You are wrong if that's what you're insinuating. And the people saying homeowners watch some UA-cam videos and think they can diy, well, I at least learned enough to know these people did just about everything wrong! If it weren't for UA-cam, I wouldn't have known and I would've ended up with at least a failed tile job. They were about to come out and tile over rotting subfloor. The contractor told me my insurance company would not approve it's replacement???!! It is obviously rotting from the water leak that led to the claim.
@@Tom-S1981 I've actually experienced this before,I was talking all kinds of trash about the job saying, "whoever did this job has no idea what they are doing ",and "this is the worst job I've ever seen ". The homeowner seemed really embarrassed and I assumed he was the one who did it,yet he never admitted it but his son did,he was there crappy installer I was talking about.
Wow, You were lucky you could save most of that gorgeous tile. I am just a weekend warrior wanting to remove my granite backslash and add to existing tile. Wanting to avoid mistakes I am watching this video. Thanks for posting.
I did my 1st kitchen backsplash tile work and I am proud of myself that I did not do most of these mistakes. oh god. Thanks for pointing out and explaining all those.
Being a licensed and insured contractor I loose a lot of work to these kind of tile installers because the customers usually go with the less expensive estimate, with that said, I don't feel sorry for this customers. Did the customer do some research on this clowns? Im sure they didn't because the price was right. You get what you pay for it.
Homeowners that are cheap deserve this kind of quality. They do not want to pay a skilled tradesman to perform the work so they get this kind of quality. If I give a fair estimate and they balk I am happy to walk away.
The one thing that a seasoned tile setter knows 1. tools matter 2. do a mock up layout 3. it takes years to know the trade 4. constantly upgrade or learn 5. outdoor tiling is not the same as indoor, consider the weather and temperature
This is what happens when guys who specialize in other things don't wanna say no to a job that they don't really know how to do. Can you imagine the anxeity those guys had once they started and realized they were in over their head? especially if the homeowner was standing over them watching.
Where to start? Yes it's a poor installation, but several things need clarifying. It's likely a Chinese made tile with sub par glazing which means it chips on the edges whether the blade is new or not. Just because a tile is rectified doesn't mean it's perfect and large tiles set on a brick pattern tend to have lippage regardless of how skilled the installer is. At 5:30 the rough cut doesn't matter because it will be hidden by the tile on the return side. At 7:30 where the hole was miscut is a simple fix considering the large tile. The installers are probably using gray thinset because the profit margin is so low they're trying to skim anywhere they can. Another thing is people want quality on the cheap. Well folks, you get what you pay for. Just remember that the inconvenience of poor quality lingers far longer than the thrill of a bargain.
Fred Flagstone yes and that is what it is not some contractor coming in and ripping on someones job because he needs to make himself look better but not knowing the circumstances of the homeowner and the installer serves these cheap homeowners rite and they always cry victim
As a carpenter and a tiler…. I don’t know why I torcher myself with these videos. There are a lot of hacks on job sites that need to be strung up and flogged by every tradesman that has heard “ that other guy is cheaper”
There's another side to this story: those who want to hire cheap labor, end up paying twice. Most of the trades do their bidding for more or less the same price, so by hiring a qualified contractor, you get a better quality product and a guarantee in case something goes wrong.
The real issue is every contractor says "I'm not the cheapest......but I'm the best.". So you sort of have to gamble on someone, unless you already gambled on someone in the past or someone referring them gambled on them and sent them your way. I truly feel most of these shit jobs are home owners trying to be weekend warriors, then calling someone and blaming "a contractor.". Even a day laborer will have enough skills to not make it look this terrible.
Hello, I've been observing your critique on many previous Bad Tile Jobs (BTJ's) for quite awhile that you have come across. I must say, I'm a Tile Contractor of 25yrs.+ A Master of The Craft, and I totally get you, you Sir' have my Respect and I Salute you. Bob your a Absolute Joy to watch, and I really like your style man! You call it the way You see it (I see it from all the way over here..) I also follow The Great "Sal DeBlasi" on other material very similar to what you see. Please Keep it Coming, I just really enjoy hearing you speak ever so precisely and justifiable to every detail that you see..and I've had my share of so many, many re-work jobs myself, I really like to see the evidence of previous so called "Tile guys" I have so much to say but....I rather keep watching New Vid's you have, catch you on the flipside!👏👏👏😀
Could I use Redgard in place of PVC liner before pouring a shower pan? I was concerned about the seal between the floor and drain, so I used fiberglass mat over the drain with Redgard so that no water can get past that. I just want to make sure this is a viable option before putting in the pan. I plan to do the proper coating on the entire shower walls and flat floor and doing a water test before pouring the pan. Do you think this will work?
+YourFavPlaylist Custom Building Products, the people that make Redgard says you could use it as a pan liner, but I would be apprehensive about it...old school ways die hard, always prefer a liner. Your method should work, just think like water ;-)
My dad just done my tiling can see so many similarities , it does these mistakes then says oh you won’t see it it be grouted or silicones , man just had massive argument telling me I’m ocd I should do it but next time think I will as my dad heart not in it , first time he done a job for me and I think he a bodge and he a plumber builder.......
I have a question about professional tile installers. I often drive through the Fort Pitt Tunnels in Pittsburgh which are lined with . Sometimes I have been slowed down in traffic and the "lippage' is terrible, you can see where the exhaust fumes go past the "lips". Isn't this supposed to be a union job?
I did a bad tile job my first try. Then I got books and read everything. My second try was much better. The right tool for the job-educate yourself- especially if you are hiring the job out do you know bad and wrong when you see it start.
@@TheyForcedMyHandLE I’m a tile installer and I can’t even count how many times people tell me they can find someone cheaper then 2 weeks later they call me back asking if I can fix the previous guys work lol if you can’t afford to hire a quality contractor then don’t expect quality work
You can put the strip in like that. Some people prefer it so you can have a smaller joint at the end of your slope. But its all a matter of what you want it to look like ya know?
Your so quick to slag off the work but you say you nail down the sub floor because the nails are cheap, dude you wouldn't even get that far in my house, a solid floor should be screwed down using rust proof screws.
+craig cope The purple & orange screws that are sold with most backerboards are VERY expensive, yes...but I make not one dime off of materials so the savings is not for me. And I got tired of drill slipping & hitting my finger. Plus the backerboard company calls for using screws OR 1 1/2'' roofing nails...and roofing nails don't rust. And lastly, the backer is nailed down then thinset/tile go over it, so your thought that nails will back out is impossible. Been doing it this way over a dozen years without one issue. Absolutely no desire to work in your home ;-)
I just watched the hardie backer board 500 install video "from hardie" and you can use 1-5/8 roofing nails! The video also shows screwing it down, i would take the time and cost to screw down but that's just me, screw and glue subfloor and all.
Galvanized resist rusting, and it's on the backer which has thinset and tile on top... I can show you a picture of a pig with lipstick on, but very few pigs wear lipstick ;-)
Sometimes the tub is not level and sometimes it's the tub flange that is not straight. Manufacturing defects are becoming more and more common with these tubs. Having said that, you MUST make sure that your tub is sitting level before you put up your cement board otherwise you will not be going up level. Installing tubs and tiles is not a DIY job. It requires a great deal of skill to avoid mistakes. You might install a window or door incorrectly and remove it and do it right but if you screw up the tiling job redoing it means breaking everything and starting all over and that's time consuming and very costly.
I like using shluter metal for my niches but I miter all four corners and nice tight fit with surrounding field tile, always turns out perfect, don't like using bullnose because the niche is usually 4" deep and bullnose is 3" deep, just looks cleaner unless I can find 4" deep bullnose
It's not that people do shit work it's that home owner's go cheapest possible and dont understand why its half the price. Duh give us the quote for this work.
We didn't go 'cheapest price', as we were desperately doing everything we could trying to avoid the nightmare we are currently in..... we didn't fail ourselves. our bad contractor failed us.... and Georgia Consumer Laws? ..all I can say is that I am finding them to be extremely inept.💖
I also do the above as well. I measure it out that the bottom course is slightly smaller than a full tile. By doing that It leaves me some room to play with when I set the bottom course.
you shouldnt "wet down before tiling" you should prime all surfaces with somthing like prime + or SBRS which is a tiling primer that soaks into the surface and controls the suction of the board there for it will adhere properly
Yep a handyman job..just came back from an estimate and the customer said they could get it done for half the price from their handyman, well this is what you get.....
damn. I'm an amateur on here just learning what I can from youtube, but I was wondering what a level would read on those lines. sometimes a worker can get sloppy if he's dealing with somebody else's bad work, or uneven work. a great video on what not to do, thank you.
Thank you for your videos, I am learning a lot. 2 questions. You say many times never, never, never use mastic in a shower. Why is that? The second question is, if you are going to butter the wall and the tile do you use the same size trowel as the manufacturer recommends? Is the manufacturer assuming that you are buttering both of the wall and the tile?
Mastic is a water based product which will not dry/cure behind larger tile. And you can't get the thickness of troweling out & backbuttering. Yes, they will assume you'll be buttering. Any larger tile must be done with plus 1/4'' trowel.
In 9 of 10 cases, the problem why this happen is the HOMEOWNER. s/he receive 3, 4, maybe 5 quotes and biggest factor for most of the people these days is the PRICE. Guy who did this is probably charging 50% of my or your rate. But THE question is: Who should be blamed for this...
I've heard u mention in previous videos not to use mastic on shower walls. Can u please explain why? I've noticed that it does take mastic a super-long time to dry
You sort of answered your own question, when you encapsulate tile on to mastic it does not have air to dry... and it is not meant for a shower to begin with, it will attract mold and mildew a lot easier and you cannot trowel it out to the depth that you need like thin set
Something I learned off the net about mastic: While mastic does have strong points, such as great adhesive properties and adaptability to many substrata, high performance in wet areas is not one of its high points.💖
@@FullTilt444 Thanks! Wen I 1st started tiling I heard that mastic is wat u do want to use in the shower and after doing it a few times I realized that even after 5 to 7 days the mastic still hasn't dried behind the tile
@@Lumbu4u you're very welcome. I never knew a thing about anything having to do with tile until I found myself victim of a bad contractor. I'm one who is compelled to do in depth research when things go wrong in an attempt to understand what went wrong. Then I still get treated like I don't know anything. Mastic is a decent product. just not good for use in wet areas. And I'm not 100% certain, but I believe that Bob is an actual certified tile installer. There's a website I ran across recently that lists the people that are certified tile installers and lists what state they are located in. Tile installation is a skill and and art. It isn't a 'one size fits all' type matter. People hire 'pros' for a reason.. especially in this arena.... we got totally scammed and it just makes me cry. Beautiful tile....like for real.. and it's been ruined by an improper tile install. You seriously wouldn't believe it. I can't believe it. I could have done a better job never having installed a single piece of tile in my life, doing it one piece at a time and having it take me 2 years. I'm having to exercise great restraint to not lose my sanity and take a hammer to it...although that is probably exactly what needs to happen.. it's too pretty for me to bear...... alot of it is 'art glass' tile..... it was expensive. I can't even go in there to look at it. I'd like to just put a piece of plywood over the door frame and pretend that space isn't even part of the house anymore. I literally cannot go in there. I just can't. I'd like to just bulldoze the entire house at this point. It's just sick.💖💖💖💖
Theres some things you could get away with when doing tile and knowone will ever know, but with latge tiles like this and small groutlines, everything becomes way more noticable, this job if grouted, wouldve looked really rough. This would be ok for a rental unit that you know is going to get messed up and needing retile in a year. Now even more money to tear it out and redue it.
Great tips and helpful explanations, no doubt. It's very clear that it really pains you to see horrible work. But it's not like your grandmother had a heart attack, your children ran away, your dog died and you blew a head gasket in the middle of Kansas. Don't take it so hard. Cheer up. :) Q: Do you know why koala bears aren't really bears??? A: Because they don't meet the koalafications.
are you sure about the roofing nails to secure your substrate? what's wrong with just using the recommended screws, I feel like it's better fastened, my .02 cents
If you look on most backerboard it allows for inch and a half galvanized roofing nails, you're free to do that anyway you want. And using thinset on your plywood to set backer board is both stupid and redundant, and will tear up your plywood on the next application
1/8 of an inch of thinset. On tiles that weight almost the amount of half a bucket filled with water. And rubber spacers. SERIOUSLY?! What the hell were they thinking?? URGH!!!!!!!!
So, I made my own mistake, and wanted to ask your opinion, as you seem to have great knowledge, and expertise, especially in fixing other people's mistakes. I have done a few tile jobs..usually took my time, used the proper spacers, everything was decent. But I'm working on a kitchen for a family member, I tiled a wall, then started the wall next to it, and I was paying attention to spacing side to side , but my up and down spacing , I got sloppy, didnt use spacers, I started eyeballing it, now I have 2 rows that have a way too thick spacing between them. Like a half inch grout line to fill, the rest of the adjacent wall is a common 1/16 spacing or so If I try to remove those 10 tiles or so, will they crack (I dont mind losing em, n replacing them) but how bad will the clean up be, behind them..? Will I gouge the sheetrock, or durarock, trying to scrape the old mastic off? Or are there any tricks or tips, that you would share? Thanks in advance, Tom in N.J.
I will just go ahead and tell you from my current first time tiling mistake of having to remove 2 tiles due to issues. Its going to be a pain in the butt to remove the thinset BUT it can be done. I used this www.homedepot.com/p/QEP-Grout-Removal-Tool-with-Durable-Carbide-Tips-10020Q/100194652 and also a flat head screwdriver to shave down enough and backbutter the tile back to the wall. Not sure if you already tried since you posted 2 days ago but if you get to them the next day they should pop off with some effort and not crack and also depends on how big the tile is :)
+Karl T Yes maybe you can in a pinch, but this tile is thick & very dense, a table saw would take 3 times as long as an industrial saw, and go through 5 of the little 4'' blades...makes no sense.
This job was horrible. That said, I'd like to examine all of your 20 years worth of tile jobs. I guarantee I could find many mistakes. You get yourself so upset over other peoples work that it makes me think you have some inferiority complex about your past work?
Dee Plorable..not that I owe you any explanation, but if you watched my intro vid which obviously you never did, you would know my history..on YT 8 years, called in on bad jobs in bad economy, I post videos on them, others watch & call me too..unintended thing but still happens 6-8 times a year. My videos are a heads up to ppl who know NOTHING about the process. If I can turn a tragic job into useful info, why wouldn't I ??? And you're MORE than welcome to go through my library of 300+ videos to find mistakes, but NEVER EVER to the extent these are. Fired from 2 jobs in 20 years, walked off of 4 FYI
@@hardcandy7112 references. ..you know why references are next to worthless? Because you will never be referred to someone where the job had gone wrong and then told how impressed they were by how well the contractor handled the situation. I wish we could contact the people who leave one star reviews. those are the people I'd be interested in hearing from. Few contractors are going to be on board with a request to 'please provide me the reference of someone where things went wrong and the customer wasn't happy with your work'... because I would LOVE to warn people about what happened to us! I did leave an HONEST review on Yelp. ..... it isn't something I do often. I am not going to write a bad review cuz someone was 10,15.35 minutes late. I will only leave a review if it truly matters! And when I'm in a nightmare.it matters. I don't want anyone else to go thru what I'm going thru. The world needs more 'good guys' to do 'Remodel Rescue' for non-profit.....if I had the money.I'd 'kickstart' someone to do this in the ATL area.....cuz the laws are too lenient here.... consumers are getting screwed left and right. bad business thrives..and it leaves the consumers not knowing who to trust anymore. My neighbor had a similar situation happen to him that happened to us.. (his guy not the same as our guy) His contractor just stopped showing up. His stopped showing up and I couldn't figure out how to legally get mine to stop doing work. the legal implications in this arena are terrifying. Georgia seems to be big on protecting business at the expense of the consumer. things don't work that way up in MN and ND where I'm from....but I reside in Georgia. I'd like to bulldoze my house. this is traumatizing.
The only reason I could see with the wall joints is 1/16 expansion, ansi does allow you to have them in wall joints and corners, but the have to be even and look good....
You never got 50/50 brick with 12x24 because of the pillow effect ...!!!!! You stack it or 1/3 brick or 1/3 ladder. In all the new housing we do that’s what happens. Even on most of the boxes of 12x24 now it clearly tells you not to install it at 50/50 brick. I don’t care if your wall is as smooth as glass and even if you’re using clips no tile is exactly straight
The sluether is not backwards . I've always put my bullnose and sleuther on the inside of windows and niches,it looks hideous when people picture frame the niche or window with their trim. This tile installer didn't get the right height sleuther strip . The tile is to thick and is sitting higher. Either way these guys did a terrible job.
Only disagreement I have is with the trim being inverted! Here in the uk atleast they have a slight lip on them so when facing out can actually prevent any water running off.. plus I actually think it’s sleaker & less in your face inverted! Maybe one more disagreement that whoever done this wasn’t a tile guy!!.. giving him far too much credit.
Ok, it's like where do you begin! Squeaky floor = cracked tiles! No nails in the 'header', cheap grinder to cut tile? Yup looks like a hack! I hope you added the anti-nail plates over all that romex! (Like at 23:35)
This is the kind of work that the contractors Home Depot uses do. I had a horrible backsplash job done by Home Depot in my last house. Dude claimed to be doing tile for over 40 years. His work was a joke.
Rediscover Film have seen alot of horror story's on here about home depot and lowes hack jobs. I don't like to do certain work but can do it better then alot of these big box stores send out just gotta have commen sense that helps alot
Tiles from a “discounted” tile shop plus cheap tile installer this will eventually happen. Customers would never learn that when you hire the lowest bid and installer with no credentials this is the result.
For the next guy? Our floors will last 50 years. Not worried about the next guy buddy. Nails work loose. Also. I said tape joints. You always tape joints. Thats moot point
*Never ever happen*..you can not have a nail "work loose" through thinset & tile...that's a joke, right ?? Obviously you've no idea what you speak. Both Durock & Wonderboard allow for 1 1/2'' roofing nails, right there on the label. So before you post a comment, know your facts.
John Jenson More screws and taping those seams. Plus that subfloor could have been the cause of the squeaky floor to begin with. Should of been addressed from the get go.
Alright alright, I agree with everything you’ve pointed out. In addition making a video to show what not to do is cool as well for those getting started and ( my biggest problem guys or gals refusing to apprenticeship first before going out on their own ) need guidance. However, I hope and pray you contacted the individual that did the project and offered to help/show him how to fix these issues. LEADERSHIP FIRST GENTLEMEN! We have a lot of individuals that have just jumped into our trade without any real know how because of UA-cam ( IRONICALLY). RIGHT?
These kind of guys without experience kill me. But i always offer my experience in areas i can to new guys and guys wanting to get started. I also make calls to get as much info and insight when I'm doing s new task or something I'm going to do better
j jones if you put them wrong and the material dries it's worst than having nothing, cuz now you have to remove all and redo everything. Also they kinda destroyed a lot of material. Thats a lot of wasted money and time... It's a shame that this way of working even exists...
Fully cured grey thin set going to bleed through white non sanded grout? I call BS. I think you are confused with grey thin set bleeding through certain stones. Good video all the same.
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I've had profound lippage from our teen. But, never from a tile.
Hahaha how long was it before you got to bed, thinking up this little doozy?!
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i wish i give you an award
I don’t think I have ever seen such clean tile removed from a wall. That’s amazing!
I would like to thank you for your videos I just remodeled my entire bathroom and the job was much easier thanks to you please keep up the good work looking forward to seeing more videos thanks again I don't know how I would have did the job without you
+sunshine vapers And thank you for the compliment ;-)
Preach brother! I love when you pick apart shoddy workmanship. You are keeping this trade honest and high quality.
Haha it was probably the home owner who started the tiling. Stopped half way to take a look and broke out in a sweat. To avoid shame they cooked up a story of "the baaaad tilers"
Makes it awkward for them when he says to their face what a crappy job "the contractor " did 😅
We just had a contractor send in his drywall guys to do our tub surround. He went to set our tub, ripped off the styrofoam leveling pad. I asked him if it was supposed to be on there, he said no. I asked him to do a mortar bed under the tub. He said ok. At the end of the day, I asked him if he did the mortar bed. His English was suddenly bad and he no comprende. After I clarified what I was saying, he admitted to not putting down a mortar bed. The green drywall he installed looked terrible on top of that. They did not tear out the old green board. It has gaps between pieces, no tape with thinset in gaps, and pieces are falling out. My husband was going to do red gard over the green board but the job was so shitty, I can't imagine any tile guy worth his salt would have tiled over that mess. I can't believe the shitty drywall work to begin with.
I had the contractor come back and undo everything they did that day. I can assure you I, with no experience, could have done a better job than these jokers. I'd have hated to see what kind of tile guy they were going to send out! I am nervous to try tiling myself though. I did buy those 12×24 tiles. I cannot do that work, I know and I don't want to be upset with my husband if it isn't right as he doesn't have much tiling experience. But it is extremely difficult to find skilled laborers where I live. One guy gave me an estimate and he intended to use mastic in my showers! Then the contractor questioned how mastic would stick to red gard!!?? I told him you aren't supposed to use mastic in a shower. They knew nothing about mortar beds either, acted like it was rocket science. I don't think they are coming back. Oh yeah, the drywall guy closed up the area I told him to leave an opening for a plumbing access panel where shut off valves for the shower were at and he used silicone to install the tub drain when I drove an hour to get the right plumber's putty for stainless steel tubs. Total nightmare. Anyway, you make it sound like there aren't amateurs out there claiming to be skilled laborers and contractors and that only a homeowner would f up something this bad. You are wrong if that's what you're insinuating.
And the people saying homeowners watch some UA-cam videos and think they can diy, well, I at least learned enough to know these people did just about everything wrong! If it weren't for UA-cam, I wouldn't have known and I would've ended up with at least a failed tile job. They were about to come out and tile over rotting subfloor. The contractor told me my insurance company would not approve it's replacement???!! It is obviously rotting from the water leak that led to the claim.
@@Tom-S1981 I've actually experienced this before,I was talking all kinds of trash about the job saying, "whoever did this job has no idea what they are doing ",and "this is the worst job I've ever seen ". The homeowner seemed really embarrassed and I assumed he was the one who did it,yet he never admitted it but his son did,he was there crappy installer I was talking about.
Wow, You were lucky you could save most of that gorgeous tile. I am just a weekend warrior wanting to remove my granite backslash and add to existing tile. Wanting to avoid mistakes I am watching this video. Thanks for posting.
I did my 1st kitchen backsplash tile work and I am proud of myself that I did not do most of these mistakes. oh god. Thanks for pointing out and explaining all those.
Being a licensed and insured contractor I loose a lot of work to these kind of tile installers because the customers usually go with the less expensive estimate, with that said, I don't feel sorry for this customers. Did the customer do some research on this clowns? Im sure they didn't because the price was right. You get what you pay for it.
Agree
Homeowners that are cheap deserve this kind of quality. They do not want to pay a skilled tradesman to perform the work so they get this kind of quality. If I give a fair estimate and they balk I am happy to walk away.
The one thing that a seasoned tile setter knows
1. tools matter
2. do a mock up layout
3. it takes years to know the trade
4. constantly upgrade or learn
5. outdoor tiling is not the same as indoor, consider the weather
and temperature
This is what happens when guys who specialize in other things don't wanna say no to a job that they don't really know how to do. Can you imagine the anxeity those guys had once they started and realized they were in over their head? especially if the homeowner was standing over them watching.
I hear ya...but the homeowner was on point to get rid of them early. Worse thing is he was NOT around and the job was "completed" messed up.
100% sure the owner did this work and was embarrassed to admit it so passed the buck to shoddy tradesmen. Lol
Where to start? Yes it's a poor installation, but several things need clarifying. It's likely a Chinese made tile with sub par glazing which means it chips on the edges whether the blade is new or not. Just because a tile is rectified doesn't mean it's perfect and large tiles set on a brick pattern tend to have lippage
regardless of how skilled the installer is. At 5:30 the rough cut doesn't matter because it will be hidden by the tile on the return side. At 7:30 where the hole was miscut is a simple fix considering the large tile.
The installers are probably using gray thinset because the profit margin is so low they're trying to skim anywhere they can.
Another thing is people want quality on the cheap. Well folks, you get what you pay for. Just remember that the inconvenience of poor quality lingers far longer than the thrill of a bargain.
Fred Flagstone yes and that is what it is not some contractor coming in and ripping on someones job because he needs to make himself look better but not knowing the circumstances of the homeowner and the installer serves these cheap homeowners rite and they always cry victim
As a carpenter and a tiler…. I don’t know why I torcher myself with these videos. There are a lot of hacks on job sites that need to be strung up and flogged by every tradesman that has heard “ that other guy is cheaper”
Screws are much better than nails for squeaks though more expensive... worth the extra expense unless mortaring in hardibacker
Skilled labor ain’t cheap. Cheap labor ain’t skilled. This home owner bought a valuable lesson
I love it when people do horrible jobs like this. it keeps me in business so to them I say thank you for keeping my bank account steadily growing.
Any opinion on those plastic spacers that get broken off the next day. The ones with the wedges. they helped this hack with lipage.
What self leveling spacers
There's another side to this story: those who want to hire cheap labor, end up paying twice. Most of the trades do their bidding for more or less the same price, so by hiring a qualified contractor, you get a better quality product and a guarantee in case something goes wrong.
Alex Nesh all tradesmen should have warranty on their work.
The real issue is every contractor says "I'm not the cheapest......but I'm the best.". So you sort of have to gamble on someone, unless you already gambled on someone in the past or someone referring them gambled on them and sent them your way.
I truly feel most of these shit jobs are home owners trying to be weekend warriors, then calling someone and blaming "a contractor.". Even a day laborer will have enough skills to not make it look this terrible.
Hello, I've been observing your critique on many previous Bad Tile Jobs (BTJ's) for quite awhile that you have come across.
I must say, I'm a Tile Contractor of 25yrs.+ A Master of The Craft, and I totally get you, you Sir' have my Respect and I Salute you.
Bob your a Absolute Joy to watch, and I really like your style man!
You call it the way You see it (I see it from all the way over here..)
I also follow The Great "Sal DeBlasi" on other material very similar to what you see.
Please Keep it Coming, I just really enjoy hearing you speak ever so precisely and justifiable to every detail that you see..and I've had my share of so many, many re-work jobs myself, I really like to see the evidence of previous so called "Tile guys"
I have so much to say but....I rather keep watching New Vid's you have, catch you on the flipside!👏👏👏😀
Thank You Sir !
Could I use Redgard in place of PVC liner before pouring a shower pan? I was concerned about the seal between the floor and drain, so I used fiberglass mat over the drain with Redgard so that no water can get past that. I just want to make sure this is a viable option before putting in the pan. I plan to do the proper coating on the entire shower walls and flat floor and doing a water test before pouring the pan. Do you think this will work?
+YourFavPlaylist Custom Building Products, the people that make Redgard says you could use it as a pan liner, but I would be apprehensive about it...old school ways die hard, always prefer a liner. Your method should work, just think like water ;-)
+StarrTile can you use redguard as a liner in roman tub build, and do you have roman tub videos?
I don't know, and no I have no videos like that.
+StarrTile OK. Thanks to your videos I just remodeled my shower (complete build) and would not have been able to do it without you.
My dad just done my tiling can see so many similarities , it does these mistakes then says oh you won’t see it it be grouted or silicones , man just had massive argument telling me I’m ocd I should do it but next time think I will as my dad heart not in it , first time he done a job for me and I think he a bodge and he a plumber builder.......
I have a question about professional tile installers. I often drive through the Fort Pitt Tunnels in Pittsburgh which are lined with . Sometimes I have been slowed down in traffic and the "lippage' is terrible, you can see where the exhaust fumes go past the "lips". Isn't this supposed to be a union job?
what did they use for doing the hole for the valves? tnt?
The mud ring would be due to shoddy plumbing work, but probably done by the same person anyway.
I did a bad tile job my first try. Then I got books and read everything. My second try was much better. The right tool for the job-educate yourself- especially if you are hiring the job out do you know bad and wrong when you see it start.
sometimes customers are cheap too. I wonder how much they spent so far
$100 says the homeowner went with the cheapest bid. Lol
Why is the "cheapest bid" always a commenter's stock answer?
Good tile work takes time & costs... It is far more difficult & time consuming than people realize.
@@TheyForcedMyHandLE because 99% of the time that’s the reason they got shoddy work.
@@TheyForcedMyHandLE I’m a tile installer and I can’t even count how many times people tell me they can find someone cheaper then 2 weeks later they call me back asking if I can fix the previous guys work lol if you can’t afford to hire a quality contractor then don’t expect quality work
You can put the strip in like that. Some people prefer it so you can have a smaller joint at the end of your slope. But its all a matter of what you want it to look like ya know?
When in doubt Grout....lol
Are all of these hacks in the Atlanta area?
Your so quick to slag off the work but you say you nail down the sub floor because the nails are cheap, dude you wouldn't even get that far in my house, a solid floor should be screwed down using rust proof screws.
+craig cope The purple & orange screws that are sold with most backerboards are VERY expensive, yes...but I make not one dime off of materials so the savings is not for me. And I got tired of drill slipping & hitting my finger. Plus the backerboard company calls for using screws OR 1 1/2'' roofing nails...and roofing nails don't rust. And lastly, the backer is nailed down then thinset/tile go over it, so your thought that nails will back out is impossible. Been doing it this way over a dozen years without one issue.
Absolutely no desire to work in your home ;-)
+StarrTile bro just thinset under the hardi board too to make sure ... but bro wedo it for the cheddar ofcourse
I just watched the hardie backer board 500 install video "from hardie" and you can use 1-5/8 roofing nails!
The video also shows screwing it down, i would take the time and cost to screw down but that's just me, screw and glue subfloor and all.
+StarrTile roofing nails do rust, I can text you a picture if needed 😎
Galvanized resist rusting, and it's on the backer which has thinset and tile on top...
I can show you a picture of a pig with lipstick on, but very few pigs wear lipstick ;-)
I don't see waterproofing
Man this is some really good stuff. Your right on the money with the do's and Sony's. I appreciate you showing this videos.
Sometimes the tub is not level and sometimes it's the tub flange that is not straight. Manufacturing defects are becoming more and more common with these tubs. Having said that, you MUST make sure that your tub is sitting level before you put up your cement board otherwise you will not be going up level. Installing tubs and tiles is not a DIY job. It requires a great deal of skill to avoid mistakes. You might install a window or door incorrectly and remove it and do it right but if you screw up the tiling job redoing it means breaking everything and starting all over and that's time consuming and very costly.
Skanzool tell me about that tubs these days and the level of them is really bad
damn, what did they use to cut those tiles? a pair of scissors?
I like using shluter metal for my niches but I miter all four corners and nice tight fit with surrounding field tile, always turns out perfect, don't like using bullnose because the niche is usually 4" deep and bullnose is 3" deep, just looks cleaner unless I can find 4" deep bullnose
Nails are more prone to squeaking over time than screws. Put more screws, not nails.
That's old thinking, using nails. Come.on screws have more hold down power then nails will ever have.
the chipped tiles were not caused by using a wet saw, they were caused by cutting too fast. If you go slow, the tile won't chip.
It's not that people do shit work it's that home owner's go cheapest possible and dont understand why its half the price. Duh give us the quote for this work.
Thats what I was thinking, lots of butchers out here.
We didn't go 'cheapest price', as we were desperately doing everything we could trying to avoid the nightmare we are currently in..... we didn't fail ourselves. our bad contractor failed us.... and Georgia Consumer Laws? ..all I can say is that I am finding them to be extremely inept.💖
@@FullTilt444 Sorry to hear it can be tough finding somebody qualified, hope everything works out for you and your family.
@@izzdiesel8556 💖💖💖💖🤗🤗🤗🤗 THANK YOU!
@@FullTilt444 your welcome take care.
That extra shower hole had me in stitches.
Looks to me that their was no redgard water proofing on the cement board not even in the corner
The plumber messed up not the tiler.. the shower valve was installed too far out .. the plumber was probably drunk as usual
Goodness! Where did they find these guys?
Home Depot
The plumber is the valve problem I think not the tile guy
Alot if tubs aren't necessarily level there bud.
i always put very bottom course last...i have some old sheet metal c channel i screw down and level and work up from there..
Good
Idea
I also do the above as well. I measure it out that the bottom course is slightly smaller than a full tile. By doing that It leaves me some room to play with when I set the bottom course.
Why did you have to pull up the hardi-board from the floor, instead of just using more screws?
They used wrong size for the transition.
the board they used has to be wet down before applying thinset or it will wick all the moisture out of your thinset too quickly causing it to let go.
you shouldnt "wet down before tiling" you should prime all surfaces with somthing like prime + or SBRS which is a tiling primer that soaks into the surface and controls the suction of the board there for it will adhere properly
Yep a handyman job..just came back from an estimate and the customer said they could get it done for half the price from their handyman, well this is what you get.....
So when do we get to see the finish product after youve completed fixing it?
That video is linked in the description box
Uh metal can be placed on inside or nitch or outside. Atleast the manufacturer of product says so.
😱 if I paid someone to do my bathroom, they better be able to do it better than I can. Best to use the tile leveling system.
it need time to do a really good job some people want to do everything right away. .
When you are saying thinset and the lack of it I assume that you mean LFT for that size of tile.
+martyg180 No, any size tile needs back buttering AND spread on surface of wall/floor for good adhesion of the tile
damn. I'm an amateur on here just learning what I can from youtube, but I was wondering what a level would read on those lines. sometimes a worker can get sloppy if he's dealing with somebody else's bad work, or uneven work. a great video on what not to do, thank you.
The floor is not squeeking because of nail displacement. It squeeks because the plywood underneath was not screwed down
D Beaulieu could be any number of things. Nail rubbing against joist maybe.
There are numerous reasons a wood floor could squeak, from an old nail to an issue with the subfloor. It's not just a single thing, D.
If there was no thin set adhesive holding the tiles, were they just held in place by rubber spacers? This was painful to see, thanks.
Thank you for your videos, I am learning a lot. 2 questions.
You say many times never, never, never use mastic in a shower. Why is that?
The second question is, if you are going to butter the wall and the tile do you use the same size trowel as the manufacturer recommends? Is the manufacturer assuming that you are buttering both of the wall and the tile?
Mastic is a water based product which will not dry/cure behind larger tile. And you can't get the thickness of troweling out & backbuttering.
Yes, they will assume you'll be buttering. Any larger tile must be done with plus 1/4'' trowel.
Thank you.
possible suprises can be under the bath tub. like drain connection
+Leonid Kostitsyn You are right...but I'm not responsible for the plumbing end ;-)
Wow at some point someone was going to get a major headache while taking a shower,😞
Was the guy that did this blindfolded?!? How did he not see the problems as he went along?!? What a mess...
In 9 of 10 cases, the problem why this happen is the HOMEOWNER. s/he receive 3, 4, maybe 5 quotes and biggest factor for most of the people these days is the PRICE. Guy who did this is probably charging 50% of my or your rate. But THE question is: Who should be blamed for this...
Tomas R cheapest is best yeH yeH keep telling yourselves homeowners of the world...
I've heard u mention in previous videos not to use mastic on shower walls. Can u please explain why? I've noticed that it does take mastic a super-long time to dry
You sort of answered your own question, when you encapsulate tile on to mastic it does not have air to dry... and it is not meant for a shower to begin with, it will attract mold and mildew a lot easier and you cannot trowel it out to the depth that you need like thin set
@@StarrTile oh ok. Ya thats wat I thought. Thank u so much for the reply Bob!
Something I learned off the net about mastic: While mastic does have strong points, such as great adhesive properties and adaptability to many substrata, high performance in wet areas is not one of its high points.💖
@@FullTilt444 Thanks! Wen I 1st started tiling I heard that mastic is wat u do want to use in the shower and after doing it a few times I realized that even after 5 to 7 days the mastic still hasn't dried behind the tile
@@Lumbu4u you're very welcome. I never knew a thing about anything having to do with tile until I found myself victim of a bad contractor. I'm one who is compelled to do in depth research when things go wrong in an attempt to understand what went wrong. Then I still get treated like I don't know anything. Mastic is a decent product. just not good for use in wet areas. And I'm not 100% certain, but I believe that Bob is an actual certified tile installer. There's a website I ran across recently that lists the people that are certified tile installers and lists what state they are located in. Tile installation is a skill and and art. It isn't a 'one size fits all' type matter. People hire 'pros' for a reason.. especially in this arena.... we got totally scammed and it just makes me cry. Beautiful tile....like for real.. and it's been ruined by an improper tile install. You seriously wouldn't believe it. I can't believe it. I could have done a better job never having installed a single piece of tile in my life, doing it one piece at a time and having it take me 2 years. I'm having to exercise great restraint to not lose my sanity and take a hammer to it...although that is probably exactly what needs to happen.. it's too pretty for me to bear...... alot of it is 'art glass' tile..... it was expensive. I can't even go in there to look at it. I'd like to just put a piece of plywood over the door frame and pretend that space isn't even part of the house anymore. I literally cannot go in there. I just can't. I'd like to just bulldoze the entire house at this point. It's just sick.💖💖💖💖
I do tile I do agree with a lot of what are you saying what Tile does vary in size
That will make your grout lines a little bit off
Theres some things you could get away with when doing tile and knowone will ever know, but with latge tiles like this and small groutlines, everything becomes way more noticable, this job if grouted, wouldve looked really rough. This would be ok for a rental unit that you know is going to get messed up and needing retile in a year. Now even more money to tear it out and redue it.
You should have titled this "No Thin-set"
Great tips and helpful explanations, no doubt. It's very clear that it really pains you to see horrible work. But it's not like your grandmother had a heart attack, your children ran away, your dog died and you blew a head gasket in the middle of Kansas. Don't take it so hard. Cheer up. :)
Q: Do you know why koala bears aren't really bears???
A: Because they don't meet the koalafications.
LOL !! Yeah but flushing money down a toilet has a sad ranking nevertheless.
are you sure about the roofing nails to secure your substrate? what's wrong with just using the recommended screws, I feel like it's better fastened, my .02 cents
garret stewart you're also supposed to set concrete board (hardy or durock) on a floor in a troweled on thin set base.
If you look on most backerboard it allows for inch and a half galvanized roofing nails, you're free to do that anyway you want. And using thinset on your plywood to set backer board is both stupid and redundant, and will tear up your plywood on the next application
StarrTile I agree that thinset under backer board is a waste, like you stated if it's well fastened then that's all that maters
if you see the recommended installation procedures of James Hardie backer board, it calls for a mortar bed for floor installations.
Perhaps it does, but that does not mean it won't do the job it's supposed to do without it.
It's like this guy was trying to do everything wrong....I couldn't try and mess up this bad...
1/8 of an inch of thinset. On tiles that weight almost the amount of half a bucket filled with water. And rubber spacers. SERIOUSLY?! What the hell were they thinking?? URGH!!!!!!!!
22.35 that looks like flooring (vinyl/wood) adhesive??
was that backer 500?
So, I made my own mistake, and wanted to ask your opinion, as you seem to have great knowledge, and expertise, especially in fixing other people's mistakes. I have done a few tile jobs..usually took my time, used the proper spacers, everything was decent. But I'm working on a kitchen for a family member, I tiled a wall, then started the wall next to it, and I was paying attention to spacing side to side , but my up and down spacing , I got sloppy, didnt use spacers, I started eyeballing it, now I have 2 rows that have a way too thick spacing between them. Like a half inch grout line to fill, the rest of the adjacent wall is a common 1/16 spacing or so
If I try to remove those 10 tiles or so, will they crack (I dont mind losing em, n replacing them) but how bad will the clean up be, behind them..? Will I gouge the sheetrock, or durarock, trying to scrape the old mastic off?
Or are there any tricks or tips, that you would share?
Thanks in advance, Tom in N.J.
I will just go ahead and tell you from my current first time tiling mistake of having to remove 2 tiles due to issues. Its going to be a pain in the butt to remove the thinset BUT it can be done. I used this www.homedepot.com/p/QEP-Grout-Removal-Tool-with-Durable-Carbide-Tips-10020Q/100194652 and also a flat head screwdriver to shave down enough and backbutter the tile back to the wall. Not sure if you already tried since you posted 2 days ago but if you get to them the next day they should pop off with some effort and not crack and also depends on how big the tile is :)
Thanks so much..yes I used 2 large putty knives and pried them off..only broke 1 and cleanup wasnt too bad..now its redone and even..my ocd can rest
@@tomsherry8961 Awesome!
I would like to see how you fixed it
Link to that video is in the description
If you know your saw well? You can use a wet table saw. Depends how good you are.
+Karl T Yes maybe you can in a pinch, but this tile is thick & very dense, a table saw would take 3 times as long as an industrial saw, and go through 5 of the little 4'' blades...makes no sense.
Does this home owner still have to pay the contractor..??
I think the home owner did that
What do you suggest if you tell them to stop the work and it gets heated and they start and argument
Tyler MacDonald don't entertain the argument, just tell him to leave out of the house and deal with it in civil court
This job was horrible. That said, I'd like to examine all of your 20 years worth of tile jobs. I guarantee I could find many mistakes. You get yourself so upset over other peoples work that it makes me think you have some inferiority complex about your past work?
Dee Plorable..not that I owe you any explanation, but if you watched my intro vid which obviously you never did, you would know my history..on YT 8 years, called in on bad jobs in bad economy, I post videos on them, others watch & call me too..unintended thing but still happens 6-8 times a year. My videos are a heads up to ppl who know NOTHING about the process. If I can turn a tragic job into useful info, why wouldn't I ???
And you're MORE than welcome to go through my library of 300+ videos to find mistakes, but NEVER EVER to the extent these are. Fired from 2 jobs in 20 years, walked off of 4 FYI
gOOD LUCK ..Lots of people out their that claim to know the dance but will trip over their own feet , like that say ,get reference .
@@hardcandy7112 references. ..you know why references are next to worthless? Because you will never be referred to someone where the job had gone wrong and then told how impressed they were by how well the contractor handled the situation. I wish we could contact the people who leave one star reviews. those are the people I'd be interested in hearing from. Few contractors are going to be on board with a request to 'please provide me the reference of someone where things went wrong and the customer wasn't happy with your work'... because I would LOVE to warn people about what happened to us! I did leave an HONEST review on Yelp. ..... it isn't something I do often. I am not going to write a bad review cuz someone was 10,15.35 minutes late. I will only leave a review if it truly matters! And when I'm in a nightmare.it matters. I don't want anyone else to go thru what I'm going thru. The world needs more 'good guys' to do 'Remodel Rescue' for non-profit.....if I had the money.I'd 'kickstart' someone to do this in the ATL area.....cuz the laws are too lenient here.... consumers are getting screwed left and right. bad business thrives..and it leaves the consumers not knowing who to trust anymore. My neighbor had a similar situation happen to him that happened to us.. (his guy not the same as our guy) His contractor just stopped showing up. His stopped showing up and I couldn't figure out how to legally get mine to stop doing work. the legal implications in this arena are terrifying. Georgia seems to be big on protecting business at the expense of the consumer. things don't work that way up in MN and ND where I'm from....but I reside in Georgia. I'd like to bulldoze my house. this is traumatizing.
The only reason I could see with the wall joints is 1/16 expansion, ansi does allow you to have them in wall joints and corners, but the have to be even and look good....
I bet was either a Friday or a Monday. Have your tile guy come on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday.
You never got 50/50 brick with 12x24 because of the pillow effect ...!!!!! You stack it or 1/3 brick or 1/3 ladder. In all the new housing we do that’s what happens. Even on most of the boxes of 12x24 now it clearly tells you not to install it at 50/50 brick. I don’t care if your wall is as smooth as glass and even if you’re using clips no tile is exactly straight
clips and wedges seem expensive but they save you
No way a wet saw cut those tiles
Yeah, probably a hand grinder with a cheap, thick, tile blade on it.
The sluether is not backwards . I've always put my bullnose and sleuther on the inside of windows and niches,it looks hideous when people picture frame the niche or window with their trim. This tile installer didn't get the right height sleuther strip . The tile is to thick and is sitting higher. Either way these guys did a terrible job.
I just saw a video from Schluter using the Jolly profile like this and I agree, it looks very clean
For the most part every tub is off or it has a dip in the middle so you got to watch out for that.
Only disagreement I have is with the trim being inverted! Here in the uk atleast they have a slight lip on them so when facing out can actually prevent any water running off.. plus I actually think it’s sleaker & less in your face inverted!
Maybe one more disagreement that whoever done this wasn’t a tile guy!!.. giving him far too much credit.
They used a 3/16ths v notch
Ok, it's like where do you begin! Squeaky floor = cracked tiles! No nails in the 'header', cheap grinder to cut tile? Yup looks like a hack! I hope you added the anti-nail plates over all that romex! (Like at 23:35)
Don't even start on the Tiling. what rubbish substrate preparation. NO WATERPROOFING?? tiling should have never been started.
Im calling B.S. on this being done by a contractor! This has Do-IT-Yourselfer written all over it! LOVE YOU VIDS!
Thank You
Sum of that heavy tile u can only do 2 rows of tile an let dry then add more tile the next day. You can't rush good work.
Or you can do a ledger board and do your first row last
No-sag thinset. You can do the whole shower in a day.
A lot better than my shower than I did myself :(
Mine is ok but don't meet that perfect but hey I've stressed enough over it not stressing anymore
This is the kind of work that the contractors Home Depot uses do. I had a horrible backsplash job done by Home Depot in my last house. Dude claimed to be doing tile for over 40 years. His work was a joke.
Rediscover Film have seen alot of horror story's on here about home depot and lowes hack jobs. I don't like to do certain work but can do it better then alot of these big box stores send out just gotta have commen sense that helps alot
Tiles from a “discounted” tile shop plus cheap tile installer this will eventually happen. Customers would never learn that when you hire the lowest bid and installer with no credentials this is the result.
"Maybe if i hire the next guy, he will do a good job"
Nails?!? No sir. You need to trowel thinset down and put durock or permabase and of course tape the joints and then you SCREW it down.
And f*** up your floor for the next guy....yeah ok
For the next guy? Our floors will last 50 years. Not worried about the next guy buddy. Nails work loose. Also. I said tape joints. You always tape joints. Thats moot point
*Never ever happen*..you can not have a nail "work loose" through thinset & tile...that's a joke, right ?? Obviously you've no idea what you speak. Both Durock & Wonderboard allow for 1 1/2'' roofing nails, right there on the label. So before you post a comment, know your facts.
Better to overdo than underdo. Agree to disagree here. When i see nails i think jackleg
John Jenson More screws and taping those seams. Plus that subfloor could have been the cause of the squeaky floor to begin with. Should of been addressed from the get go.
I'm willing to bet the home owner did this and just said it was a contractor. 100% was home owner haha
Alright alright, I agree with everything you’ve pointed out. In addition making a video to show what not to do is cool as well for those getting started and ( my biggest problem guys or gals refusing to apprenticeship first before going out on their own ) need guidance. However, I hope and pray you contacted the individual that did the project and offered to help/show him how to fix these issues. LEADERSHIP FIRST GENTLEMEN! We have a lot of individuals that have just jumped into our trade without any real know how because of UA-cam ( IRONICALLY). RIGHT?
These kind of guys without experience kill me. But i always offer my experience in areas i can to new guys and guys wanting to get started.
I also make calls to get as much info and insight when I'm doing s new task or something I'm going to do better
how much to fix something like that labor only?
Way too many variables to price it...and I refrain from pricing on line anyway.
j jones if you put them wrong and the material dries it's worst than having nothing, cuz now you have to remove all and redo everything. Also they kinda destroyed a lot of material. Thats a lot of wasted money and time...
It's a shame that this way of working even exists...
home owner job looks like
My thoughts EXACTLY!
Fully cured grey thin set going to bleed through white non sanded grout? I call BS. I think you are confused with grey thin set bleeding through certain stones. Good video all the same.
Nope, happens a lot. Grey thinset for darker grouts, white thinset for lighter grouts.
they also forgot to waterproof
Carlos Santos not necessarily, they may have put a plastic barrier behind the cement board. but lets be honest, that probably didn't happen