I just have one question about your timeline : the survival logbook states that it's made for the nightguards of freddy fazbear's pizza and michael draws a lot of things from sister location into it meaning sister location happens BEFORE fnaf 1 but you say it happens after, how do you explain michael talking about the immortam and the restless, casual bongos and exotic butters if sister location hasn't happened yet ?
@@mattkerekanich the logbook was given to a different nightguard after plus fazbear entertainment requires nightguards to use the logboon after every shift so there's no way he waited until sister location to fill it, sister location is before fnaf 1
I always like seeing different interpretations of the lore because until scott gives us a real clear timeline it's all up to us to put these pieces together in the most comprehensive way
You're assuming that he will give us a clear timeline? If only that were true. The truth is that, unfortunutelly, theorizing runs this franchise. As long as there are mysteries to solve, we will only rarely get clarity and only on specific details, because that's what keeps the franchise afloat- theories are basically free promo- at the expense of the narrative and normal players, as much as I don't like it.
@@riskopalfi801although i feel like....this is what i feel like....at some point, before new installments he did made canon endings....like Fnaf 4, UCN....it feels off for it not to have its own ending at the time of their release and have a cohesive story, only after there was a new game after it, the story rattles and scrambles
If the animatronic footprints were William's in the Spring-Bonnie suit, why would would they even be there that night? It's raining and obviously William isn't in the suit, so the footprints just shouldn't be there if they were his. Plus, only having 2 animatronic footprints while simultaneously having more than two human footprints indicates that the animatronic didn't walk, only leaving Golden Freddy/ Fredbear after being possessed by CC or Cassidy being the animatronic that night. And it's not impossible for Golden Freddy to leave footprints given we have seen non-physicsl entiries affect the physical world (i.e. Phantoms in FNAF 3 causing malfunctions when they show up. Puppet gaining streaks. Circus Baby gaining green eyes.) It's a decent theory, but sone things just dont line up.
_Masterfully_ done. All of this theory makes perfect sense to me (save for the Nightmares being real and Elizabeth's death, but those are theories for another day). This actually happens to line up pretty exactly with a theory I wrote almost two years ago on Reddit. I think it's promising that we were able to come to the same conclusion.
RETROBEETLE!!! You’re the basis for this!! I credited you in my ultimate timeline video!!! I had this theory while doing my solved timeline and the next day I was browsing reddit and saw someone had come to the same conclusion!! Yayyy im glad you saw this, I wanted to expand upon it by exploring the aftermath of Midnight Motorist, thx for watching
Absolutely perfect. I've been thinking this for YEARS aside from the spring bonnie part which makes perfect sense. I'm so happy someone agrees the Vanessa therapy tapes are actually Elizabeth's backstory put onto Vanessa and not her actual backstory.
Incredible editing, people normally don't really grasp the amount of work that goes into these types of videos. This channel really deserves more attention!
I dont think mike defending his brother is particularly out of character. Yeah, he’s kind of a punk in FNAF 4 but he never meant to hurt his brother, he just thought it would be funny to scare him.
It's out of character because Michael doesn't talk like this. He's very long winded and has a way with words where he will go on tangents and use euphemisms. He says stuff like "Hey, I think the little guy wants to give Freddy a BIIIG kiss." And not "Let's put Dave in Fredbear's mouth.". Even in his sister location custom night monologue he's long winded and uses metaphors like "I've been living in shadows." So it's unbelievable seeing him act completely direct and just say what's on his mind with no filter in a game after all of those previous appearences that set him up with another way of talking.
I really hate how vague this minigame is lmao. I honestly have believed the 'Michael running away' theory for so long, I don't even know what to think. Cool analysis anyway, bro
It is Michael running away. He's going to check the unmarked grave because he's haunted by his dead brother and is checking to see if he's still dead. The person on the couch is Mrs. Afton, the mother. This takes place after the crying childs death, hence why William is drinking and the mother is drowning her sorrow in front of the tv.
@@Ace_of_Horns no, the person on the couch could be Henry as a temporary babysitter. The mother isn't present anywhere in the games and the person on the couch doesn't look like a female character
The thing that pisses me off about theories like these are the fact that the lore is so vague that anything can be true. You could write midnight motorist a million times and it would make sense because there are too little pieces and such vague lore that you can easily spin it multiple ways.
Like any theories theres always going to be things that dont add up, and with how vague this minigame is a bijillion different things could be what happened. But this theory is definitely my favorite so far and creates tons of solid interesting points and perspectives that other theories just loosely create
Do you think it could be possible that Mike could’ve been trying to toughen up Crying Child through tormenting him? That’s a theory I’ve had for a while.
No, I dont think Mike would use the thing that caused the terror to toughen up his brother, and it culminating in putting crying child into Freddy's mouth also doesn't seem to fit that idea. If the motivation behind Michael's torture of crying child doesn't seem right to you but you like the theory overall there's another possible motivation: Because Michael was also being tortured by their father he could have been wearing the mask and obsessed with scaring AS the monster who had been tormenting him. That's a very common thing. Dressing up as things that scare you and embodying traits of things that scare you are often ways of taking control over that fear. So his abuse of crying child may not have been from hatred but from trying to control what was scaring him: the same nightmare animatronics. I don't think Mike ever HATED his brother beyond what's normal for two boys being abused by their father.
You said the mother committed unalive after divorcing William and losing custody. Why would her grave be outside Williams house if she had already lost custody and therefore does not live at that same house anymore?
I've seen just about every "Midnight Motorist solved" video out there and, in my opinion, this interpretation makes the most sense. I really like the theory about the footprints, and the attitude change. The line "he's going to be sorry when he gets back" really does feel like it's hinting at crying child's fragile nature in part 4. Great video!
watch the video by the dude that made the 8 hour long theory video. i feel he truly solved fnaf, his midnight motorist theory seems perfect and logical
Now I wanna see you use this to explain how Gregory is the crying child who is actually a robot version of Charlie who was stolen by William but is actually the mimic and Henry destroyed the Charliebot after the real Charlie died therefore creating the Charlievirus that ends up being in Circus Baby because Circus Baby is actually a robot version of Charlie stolen by William because that chip in her arm we see in Night 5 is Green and Green means Charlie because Charlie wore a green wristband which also means Vanessa is a robot version of Elizabeth because she has blonde hair green eyes and because they’re green it means she’s actually a robot version of Charlie stolen by William- *AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!*
If the CC did break his window from the inside, there would definitely be glass outside on the floor, and CC wouldn’t have cleaned the glass while leaving behind the footprints. Unless Scott forgot that there would be glass outside, it basically confirms that the window was broken from the outside, so either it was broken with a projectile to avoid footprints close to the window, or the window-breaker doesn’t leave footprints (which leaves even more questions in a game that seems to aim to wrap up the lore) then CC either left of his own will, or was lured out after his window was broken, perhaps suggesting a Funtime animatronic due to their luring capabilities, though that’s only one possible solution. I also think saying that the bear that represents CC in the poster shows him to be mischievous isn’t the strongest connection, as I think it’s more likely that - like Elizabeth being shown as a clown - he’s shown as a sharp-toothed bear in reference to being killed by Fredbears bite. You do raise an interesting point about the bear being on a leash to William as a strong clue towards CC being the runaway though. Even if I might have different views, great video nonetheless!
Scotr just didn't bother putting broken glass on the ground, that's it and no it can't be a funtime because they can't leave the facility, they aren't free
Thank you!! I understand your points, however the “Funtime lures a kid outside” theory seems pointless in the greater narrative of fnaf. The question to be answered is, why even include that detail? And regarding the window glass, I think looking into the details of an atari esque minigame for hard evidence is always a mistake, we should usually look at the greater picture, especially with scotts inconsistency with sprites.
@@ItalianBrusseli mean the other arcade game shows how one of the mci kids got lured so why wouldn’t another arcade game be doing the same and scott is almost known for putting in so much detail that it seems almost weird that he wouldn’t include a simple thing like the glass shattering. personally this theory just doesn’t add up to me but it’s an awesome video!!!
@@dxddy_chxlll9924I think it could be possible that since orange guy doesn’t mention the window being broken, just that “He ran off to that place, again” it could very well already be broken. Going off intentional details of Scott, wouldn’t the character be surprised if there was a broken window on their house? Just spit ballin :p
Honestly, the main thing that throws me off about any potential FNAF timeline is Elizabeth. Where is she during the events of midnight motorist and five nights at Freddy's 4? Why is she seeking revenge in FNAF:SL but seemingly loyal to william in FNAF:PS? Sister location i think throws such a wrench into things in so many ways, and Elizabeth is so impossible for me to wrap my mind around.
my personal explanation is that Elizabeth is upstairs and asleep because it is midnight (we see the house has two stories from the external sprite). Also reminder that Scott has never been consistent with rooms in houses necessarily, Mike and William don't even have rooms in the fnaf 4 minigame house. And during fnaf 4 I think elizabeth has died already, i didnt include it in this theory video because it's a seperate narrative, but I think she died after midnight motorist and before fnaf 4. She doesn't seem to be seeking revenge in SL, but if she were trying to imply that, she was most likely lying to Mike to get him on her side, as Mike hates William (Baby lies throughout the whole game). She's loyal to William because William treated her well, unlike his treatment of CC and Mike. Elizabeth was clearly his favorite. Midnight Motorist in general throws a bunch of wrenches into things, but since fnaf 6 was meant to tye up loose ends, I think it was trying to give us as many answers as possible before moving onto things like Help Wanted and Security Breach. For example, we needed to know "What the Crying Child saw," Mike's motivations, why William killed Charlie, and why William's wife isn't seen anywhere in the story.
@@ItalianBrussel the crying child died first, not elizabeth, hand unit says that the funtimes were created to capitalize on the success of freddy fazbear's pizza after it was closed and the first time a freddy fazbear's pizza was closed was in 1985, two years after the death of the crying child
He says that the rental service was built to capitalize on freddys, not the Funtimes. The original locations the funtimes resides in was circus babys pizza world, but they were only there for one day. This was a cover up since elizabeth died that day, so it wouldnt make sense for hand unit to reference that location since it was a cover up.
@@ItalianBrussel Okay so, I had a spark of inspiration with this comment thread, and I'm surprised none has thought about this (Or at least I think) butt, ¿What if Elizabeth was not an Afton? ¿What if Elizabeth was adopted? Think about it. All the Afton's have brown hair and blue eyes. Meanwhile, Elizabeth is blond and has green eyes. That doesn't work with the rest of the Afton. Following this theory and with this in mind, after Midnight Motorist, William grows a strong hate against Michael and Crying Child, no longer considering them their sons. Because of this, he decides to adopt Elizabeth. That's why Elizabeth was always the favorite of William, because she was the only one that William considered like family. PD: Sorry if my English is not great.
Bro. What if William k^**ed his wife?! It just popped in my head during the recap. Why is the crying child the only one shown to mourn his mother? And why is he so terrified of Bonnie? It doesn’t make sense for him to just be scared because he sees him outside his window. It’s creepy and a bit scary yes especially for a kid but it’s not enough to constantly keep him crying and be mortally terrified of the animatronics. Remember he loves them enough to still have toys of them. My theory is this: After the custody battle between William and his wife ended, Mrs. Afton was not satisfied with the outcome and threatened to expose Williams crimes. Why would she let a monster like him keep their kids? To prevent that William put on his Bonnie suit and waited to strike his ex wife down. What he didn’t plan was that the CC saw the whole thing and in an effort to cover it up he lied and told him it was all a dream. Later the authorities found her and ruled it a case of self harm. But the CC knew that was a lie, he knew how she really died, he knew that it was Bonnie who did it. William asked to bury his wife in their backyard to throw them off from suspecting foul play, he just wants to make sure his kids could still visit their mother, is what he told them. Deep down he hated the very fact she would still be nearby and so he told his kids to never go near the gravesite. Michael obeyed because he didn’t want to anger his father. Elizabeth being the loyal daddy’s girl also listened because she didn’t want to disappoint William. But the CC never listened and out of spite William would put on his suit and stare at him through his window to make sure he stayed away. At the same time he also started k***ing other kids again and to make sure the CC wouldn’t interfere as well he made sure to remind him why he shouldn’t go there. “Remember what you saw”.
It’s a wild theory but if Brussel is right about the gravesite being Mrs. Aftons, it would make sense to me at least that the CC saw how she died. It also explains the “remember what you saw” he saw his mum get murdered by an animatronic, the Bonnie animatronic. I didn’t like Matpat theory of it being Elizabeth death because of that were the case he wouldn’t be scared of the original animatronics. The SL animatronics are completely different. As for the mouth stomachs MatPat uses as evidence, the CC died in the mouth of Golden Freddy. To him he was eaten by it, so it makes sense that he imagines them with Stomach mouths.
This theory is stretching hard in a lot of area's, and at somepoints have things that just dont make sense. So here's the strechy parts: -Michael would never blame his brother for something he knows is his fathers doing. - If mrs. afton really is in that grave then where is elizabeth? she has to still be alive at this time and cant be left alone. - The poster is fan easter egg, not literal proof of things like afton is controlling michael. If that were the case then what the hell does elizabeth holding the crying childs chain mean? - The poster also does not confirm mrs.aftons grave just because she's not there. she has no 'representation' in the games, period. - 6:28 i think u missed this bit, also why would afton put his special suit out in the rain to get damaged? - William didnt design the security puppet? what? when? Why would william build the security puppet to protect charlie specifically? i assume u mean henry but even then, theres no correlation to charlies death being before CC's. This theory tries to make CC the runaway kid so hard that it stretches everything around it to fit this one claim. it grips at pointless things like the poster in fnaf 6 and says wierd stuff like afton being the one that made the security puppet. It makes up a lot of bullsh*t to try and support CC as the runaway kid but it doesn't work.
-Mike blames CC because CC is. The reason William is punishing them -elizabeth could be upstairs (we see the outside sprite has two stories. Also in the fnaf 4 house rooms have never been consistent (mike and william dont have rooms in the fnaf 4 house) -the poster isnt an easter egg to anything, its just in the game, meaning its worth looking at. And good point about elizabeth. And, also, sure, mrs afton not being in the poster isnt hard evidence, just supporting evidence. -he doesnt put it out in the rain to get damaged. He does this repeatedly on other nights to scare CC. Its because its raining on the night of MM that he cant put the suit out. -yes I meant henry, but there isnt really anything saying charlies death comes after CC either, that portion of the video was the logic disproving that point. The whole point was to say William didnt build the puppet, henry did. But id love to hear your theory for MM, not even meaning this passive aggressively
amazing theory, the only thing i find a problem with is: (if charlie's murder happens during midnight motorist) why would scott make william yellow when during the murder of charlie, hes purple?
I dont see this as a huge problem, since post fnaf 4 william is characterized as a human rather than just a crazy psycho serial killer, also in that same minigame, charlie is referred to as a “him” when she’s clearly been retconned to be a girl, so fnaf 2’s minigames havent aged well lore-accuracy-wise
i love your fnaf theory videos, your timeline being my favorite and most sensible timeline i’ve seen. it would be stellar to have more theory vids in the future, i’m super excited for that. keep up the great work ❤
Ngl, I really believe that this theory is probably the most definitive of what probably happened in Midnight Motorist. But something about this theory I dont like is the idea that Micheal had been put in the nightmare experiments at the same time as the crying child. Like I know that Micheal was a bully, but if he knew what the nightmare animatronics looked like and how life-like and dangerous they were, it feels weird that he would still torment the crying child using the animatronics. We know that he isn't heartless since he is defending the CC and apologizes after his head got bit. It's also weird that Micheal would need to know that the nightmares are man-made experiments in order for him to have to blame CC for causing them. I feel like a better sequence of events would be that Crying Child was experimented on FIRST after midnight motorist. CC would then become very scared and wimpy. Micheal would then bully CC because of how much of a crybaby he was(definitely seems like an older brother thing to do). After the CC got bit though, William then decided to put Micheal into the nightmare experiment as punishment. Which is why the big boss fight of FNAF 4 is Nightmare Fredbear(a personification of the animatronic that he accidentally used to kill his brother).
Random Idea. What if Midnight Motorist is William killing the child who would become the vengeful spirit? Think about it, in UCN through the toy chica cutscenes we learn that the vengeful spirit was not killed in a restaurant like the others but was kidnapped and killed. Perhaps William was standing outside their window in a spring lock suit to lure them out but perhaps because it was raining he had to take the suit off so he broke the window instead (notice how the window is broken from the outside) and kidnapped them. Orange guy is not William, the purple car matches with Williams car but the fact that he’s orange doesn’t. Just an idea but I don’t really know
Springtrap staring through the window is a really good insight. Definitely ties a ton of this together. In fact, I would say that's better supporting evidence for the gray shirt TV person being Michael than previous justifications. Really solid theory!
Springtrap staring through the window literally doesnt tie anything up. If anything it pokes holes into this theory by suggesting that it was William in the Spring bonnie costume kidnapping the kid.
@@svk_zoltanjust because something is unrealistic doesn't mean it's not supporting evidence. 90% of the stuff that happens in this franchise doesn't make any sense because the characters are acting irrationally. What I'm saying is that seeing Springtrap stare at the player through the window FNAF 3 in order to intimidate them is canonical behavior of William. This theory suggests that CC was also intimidated in the same way. William wouldn't have to stay out there constantly, but just often enough to reinforce how scary it is out there, and CC could even plausibly notice that Spring Bonnie never seems to stand out there during the rain and therefore gives CC some assurance that the coast would be clear. I don't think this theory is perfect, but I think that one data point about Springtrap in FNAF 3 is interesting to note and could plausibly relate even if the kid being watched in MM isn't CC and even if the orange guy isn't William. The footprints are there, not walking around but just standing there. That means either an animatronic or a springlock suit WAS just standing outside the window for long enough to leave footprints, even if neither of us find it to be compellingly reasonable behavior for anyone to do.
I really really like most of this, but I disagree that the kids were aware the nightmares were William's doing, bc they wouldn't really have anything to be afraid of if they knew it was him, they likely would have figured he wouldn't kill them. I always kind of figured it was framed as actual nightmares, like they'd go to bed and wake up in the observation rooms. Additionally, I think William used the nightmares against CC to keep him scared of the animatronics, then later against Mike for killing CC. Mike in FNaF 4 seems more like he's being annoying and teasing CC for being afraid, rather than being angry and vengeful, which I would take to mean he hadn't experienced the nightmares himself and thus thought the fear was silly, and he didn't think he was in worse shape for protecting CC, or at least, didn't seem to resent having done so.
i like the theory, i just see two flaws. first, why would mrs afton's suicide warrant an unmarked burial? should her body be found, wouldn't that cast a ton of suspicion on william? second, if the intention of scott was to show that the footprints were created at different times, wouldn't something be done to add details that would better corroborate that idea? all in all i like theories that work to push against the dogma of the community, whether or not they end up with holes
I still honestly believe that the fnaf 4 nightmare animatronics are illusions bc the illusion discs are things in the fnaf universe (whether it’s book stuff or game stuff I can’t remember) and it makes sense to me bc fnaf4 itself is a game based on hearing and listening to the animatronics, and the discs work by sending out sound frequencies to trick the brain into seeing things different As for the underground bunker in sl with the map of the houses, maybe the placements of the nightmare animatronics are just where the discs are placed instead of actual physical creatures? Just seems a bit of a stretch that these giant metal things just stand in the hallways of that “house”
I agree! But I think the Nightmares are closer to what the Twisted Ones are in that capacity; I think they are plastic shells with illusion discs attached.
This is very interesting take of MM that I haven’t heard anyone else mentioned and, although it’s a very cool theory backed by evidence, I still think there are a few questions left unanswered. - Why wouldn’t William want CC to mourn for his mother, seriously what’s so wrong about that. I assume William would have hatred towards his wife considering that he divorced her using her own daughter against him in court which eventually lead to her suicide. Maybe William didn’t want CC to mourn for her out of spite. But if William doesn’t care about his wife then why did he become a drunken alcoholic, why did he murder Charlotte? If William doesn’t care about his wife than her death would mean nothing to him. But if William does care about his wife than why did he lead her to suicide and prevent CC from visiting her grave. Plus the fact that the graves is literally in his backyard, it’s not like the child is going far. - Also I personally disagree with the idea of Henry having a perfect family and thats why William killed charlotte. Mainly due to the fact that we NEVER see Henry’s family in the entire franchise, at least in the games. We don’t even know if he as a wife. So to claim that Henry having a perfect family is what started Aftons entire killing streak when Henry’s family is never mentioned once in the games is big stretch in my opinion. - Personally I also disagree with the idea that the security puppet was created just to protect Charlotte. If you look in that mini game, all the kids are wearing similar security bracelets just like Charlotte, it’s not exclusive to her. Could that be a coincidence , maybe, but in fnaf I doubt it. I think we both agree that Charlotte died a Freddy Fazbears Pizza rather the Fredbears. However, while Freddy’s require kids to wear security bracelets, Fredbears doesn’t as seen in fnaf 4 mini games. Why then would Freddy’s build the security puppet and require kids to wear security bracelets while Fredbears doesn’t. That wouldn’t make scenes unless something happened at Fredbears that caused Freddy’s to boost security. Enter the bite if 83. They built the security puppet and required kids to wear security bracelets to prevent kids from getting too close to the animatronics. To prevent another bite from taking place. - This also explain why the security puppet is nowhere to be see in the fnaf 4 mini games. Now on its own this wouldn’t be a big deal, however the fnaf 4 mini games have a reference to practically every other animatronic that came prior to fnaf 4. Theres a reference to the toy animatronics, the classic animatronics, the withered animatronics, the shadow animatronics, balloon boy, spring trap, and even the endo- skeletons. However the one character that is nowhere to be found in the fnaf 4 mini games is the security puppet. And yes I know that fnaf 4 was retconned but we still need to take these things into account. There is no mentioned of the security puppet throughout the entire fnaf 4 mini games. Not through dialogue, not through plushies, not through toys, not through merchandise, heck the sercuity puppet doesn’t even appear in the tv show. To me this implies that by the times the fnaf 4 mini games take place, the security puppet hadn’t been created yet. - Another question I have is Michael and the CC having the nightmares. If both Michael and the CC are having the nightmares than why does Michael tease his brother for being scared of the animatronics in fnaf 4. Michael would know exactly why his brother is scared if he’s having the exact same nightmares. Also wouldn’t you expect Michael to be just as afraid as the CC if he is also being tormented night after night by these animatronics. Why does Michael show almost no fear towards the animatronics in fnaf 4 and seen tease his brother for what her perceives as “an un-rational fear” towards the animatronics. - Another interesting question is if Michael knew that William was giving him the nightmares, then why does he follow Williams order to go down into the sister location bunker. Surely he would know better then to trust the man that tormented him as a child right. It seems to me that Michael didn’t know about his fathers crimes yet and it was sister location that shoved the red pill down his throat. - lastly I don’t think spring Bonnie was outside the window mainly because there’s only one set of footprints unlike the runaway in which we see a trail of footprints. If it really was William than we would expect to see a similar trail of footprints walking to or away from the window. To me the single pair of footprints indicate that whatever was outside the window did not walk or run here. Whatever was outside the window was simple there vanished, lasting long enough to leave one pair of footprints. So why do I believe Michael is the runaway, well because it explains everything and leaves no question unanswered. William becomes a drunken alcoholic due to the death of his son who we know he loves dearly. William promises his son that I will put you back together, showing that he does cares about him. The bite of 83 explains why Freddy’s require kids to wear security bracelets while Fredbears doesn’t. It was the bite of 83 that caused the remaining Freddy locations to boost security. It explains why William killed Charlotte, not because Henry has a perfect family that we never hear about but because William is a grieving, alcoholic father. After all if his child was going to die, than Henry’s child deserved to die. It explains the grave in the backyard, it’s CC a character who we know for a fact has died on screen. It explains why the person of the couch is so caring to the person in the room, because it’s not Michael the bully it’s Ms. Afton the mother. It explains why the person in the room locks HIMSELF in his room in the first place. We know from fnaf 4 that the CC practically has a mental breakdown when being locked in his room. While Michael is a teenage who are known for locking themselves in their room. It explains why theres a singular pair of three toed foot prints outside the window. It’s Fredbear who not only has three toes as seen in fnaf world but is also posed by the CC. Golden Freddy (who Fredbear eventually becomes) is know of teleporting into the office of Michael Afton which explains why there’s only ONE pair of footprints outside and not a trail. Fredbear also has motivation to be at the Afton house because it his house, his home, his family. It explains why he’s at the window of Michael specifically because Michael was the one responsible for his death. It explain what place Michael ran off too, the close down Fredbears family dinner, the place his brother died and his biggest regret was made. Thats why William was so angry with him because he’s not running off to his backyard, he running off to a close down building, possible even breaking in. And last but not least it explains the punishment William plans to give Michael, the nightmare animatronics who we know Michael has seen thanks to the survival logbook. In my personal opinion not only is this a lot more satisfying and keeping the character personalities consistent, but also explain every single detail we see in that mini games without having to resort to offscreen character development. Michael runaway explains everything based on evidence seen in the games alone and leaves no questions unanswered. Anyway amazing video again and I look forward to more fnaf from you in the future 👍😃
I understand your points, Mike runaway is definitely a very viable theory. I want to believe it, but in the greater sense of the timeline I prefer my interpretation. As for the puppet not being in fnaf 4 its because I think Charlies murder occurred at Freddys and not Fredbears. All of your other points are great but mostly speculation (as are mine, its just a matter of preference). Thank you for spending so much time on this!!
Agreed, it really is just a matter of preference, only Scott really knows the correct answer. Anyway thanks for taking the time to reply to my little insignificant comment, it definitely made my day 😃. I look forward to watching your sister location video when it comes out.
1. People can be irrational and strange and cruel for weird or even dumb reasons. You only really learn this from life experience but I have met people like that, especially when alcohol is involved. 2. You're right that it doesn't make much sense for William to kill Charlotte, but then again very few stranger-involved child murders do. People have killed for less. 3. But then why build another animatronic to keep the kids from going outside if you're trying to protect them from the animatronics on the inside? That makes even less sense. I think the creator of the video's right in that it was probably just a security device built because Charlotte was probably 3 or 4 and Henry wanted to build a robot babysitter. 4. This isn't expressed in the main video but I personally think that the puppet was a one-time creation by Henry as a prototype to babysit his daughter, and after her murder he somehow figured out that her soul was in the puppet and became attached to it and decidesd to keep it around. Because think about it even in the 1970-80s that thing would have been considered nightmare fuel and there's no way it would have done well in focus group testing as a new mascot. Come to think of it it makes a lot more sense that William and Henry both worked on the puppet rather then just William because there's no way in hell that Henry, the genius engineer, wouldn't have noticed the tear thing or that the puppet was acting weird. William was probably able to keep the murder hidden from him for a while and after Henry found out he probably kept it under raps because he loved his kid and didn't want what was left of her to be taken away by the government and destroyed with himself probably arrested. This makes a lot more sense imo then Henry and the police just being complete morons for ~10 years. 5. People have different reactions to fear and are afraid of different things. There are 5 year olds who go through haunted houses smiling and laughing the whole time and there are 22 year olds who can't watch horror movies alone. Michael becoming brave and strong to the nightmare animatronics and CC becoming terrified and weak could have been the reason why Michael lost empathy for CC as he couldn't understand why CC was such a "crybaby" about the nightmares while he was able to get over his fear of them, just like how some kids who love swimming or riding bikes think a bit less of those who freak out at them and can't do it. Not everyone, especially as children, have a developed sense of empathy. 6. Some people are just more curious about things like that. He wanted answers. 7. He could have walked around the forest to make it look like Bonnie was coming out of the woods. Some notes on your theory: -Who is in the grave then and why do the footprints end there? -I personally think that it's William who locks CC in the room because like you said it doesn't make sense for him to be freaked out when his brother locks him in his room if he'd done it himself a lot. -How can CC manifest himself physically? That would break the established gameplay of the series and it also doesn't make sense why CC wouldn't try and talk to his Mom and Dad rather than just freak Michael out.
Slight side shift/addition to the Michael bit of the theory: What if he’s (in a dumb angry brattish big brother way) trying to make his brother less afraid of the animatronics because that’s his father’s main way of controlling him, with that therefore controlling Michael, not frightened by the animatronics. That rather than pure bullying. I say that because that would then make the FNaF games meta. That the more you get exposed and jumpscared, the less afraid you become - exactly Michael’s goal with his brother. And in-universe it then becomes dramatic irony that Michael is being tormented in the way he did his brother, that there really was something to be afraid of, and that ultimately his father’s plan to make them fear the animatronics ultimately comes true. But Michael will not let it control him. (Until. Well. It quite literally does).
Some problems that I extremely dislike being overlooked because even MatPat kind of ignored some of these before his Final Theory and even then he still missed a biggie. First, there is a whole video by Sire Squawks stating why the couch potato is not Michael. So there’s that. If the Nightmares were supposedly built after this minigame to keep whoever in the house… well this is a completely and totally different house. The layout and the damn location do not line up whatsoever and this is not by accident. The smaller house can be because of how much money they lost from the casualties. I will say that MatPat’s theory about the couch potato being Mrs Afton and Michael having run away to check the grave of Evan, except for the house being different and the Nightmares having hypothetically already happened back at the old FNaF 4 house. Also how could the Evan have not been bit if Charlie is just killed? She dies as a result of Evan being bit by Henry’s machine. So Evan has to be dead by the time this minigame takes place. The only question remaining from MatPats theory is what the f*ck is outside that window if it cannot be a Nightmare or an apparition or William in the rabbit suit? And to that I turn it to the replies. Fellow theorists, brainstorm if you will. I’ve been trying to crack this minigame for a literal month.
I do like Sire Squawks interpretation but prefer mine for timeline reasons. Also, due to Midnight Motorist its implied that Charlies death isnt premeditated, it’s an impulsive decision (william is impared by alcohol). It isnt definitive that CCs death directly inspired william to kill charlie
The only loose end left is the fact that the houses are different from one other in the cutscenes and the actual gameplay of Fnaf 4. I believe that the house in the cutscenes is Mrs Aftons house she quoted after the divorce which the family visits frequently. It is here that William gets more upset leading to micheal becoming more more upset and they both take it out of the crying child. This also explains why Mrs Aftons grave is there being that one of them found her and buried her on the backyard.
My thoughts have always been that: - Mrs.Afton is the one watching TV on the couch, & she’s bald because she’s battling cancer. (A fight she’d later lose) - Michael is the runaway, & subject to William’s nightmare experiments as punishment for causing his brother’s death. - CryingChild’s death is what motivated William to kill Charlie when the opportunity presented itself.
I think jrs is not a bar i think its fnaf 2 because its basically the jrs version and i think that the mother of the children only divorced and did not kill her self i think its elizebeth that is burried
i havent watched the video yet but id just like to add that ive always thought afton being yellow was because it was him before he started killing and that was it
The small issue I have with this is your claim that William was mourning his wife who is the one buried in the unmarked grave. The problem is that the grave is UNMARKED and a large mound, like the body isn't buried very deep. That doesn't sound like a legit grave, that sounds like a body someone is trying to hide. What if William was an abusive drunk BEFORE her death and got carried away one night, killed his wife, buried her in the woods out back, and just told everyone she left him and unalived herself? There also weren't any footsteps around her grave to hint at CC going there, either, even though there WERE footsteps outside the window.
I don't think that he gave a crap about her to be honest. It's more plausible that he framed her in court and manipulated Elizabeth and CC against her because that is something that he would actually do as a revenge towards his ex.
this is a really great video! i dont personally agree with everything, but its definitely something to think about my main thing is like if evan was just sneaking off and nothing more, why did he break the window instead of opening it and if he couldnt open the window, why is there no glass shards on the ground when he broke it (because if it was broken from inside, there obviously should be glass on the outside)
William likely locked his window, and also the footprints are leading away from the window, so its someone breaking out. If you want to get super technical and be like “theres no shards on the ground,” well then that would also mean someone would have had to walk up to the window, break it, kidnap a child, then perfectly retrace their steps over their original footprints. The shard argument is super odd since it doesnt really conclude anything it just succeeds in complicating an otherwise simple visual storytelling tool, that being the broken window.
Great theory but I have 2 problems: first, the footprints being there in the rain imply the animatronic was out there in the rain to make the footprints (assuming it wouldn’t when it wasn’t raining), not before it started raining, which wouldn’t make sense if it were William manning spring Bonnie. And that also begs the question of when he would have moved the animatronic. Additionally, why would the mother be buried in an unmarked grave? While the therapy evidence is convincing, it doesn’t make sense to me why she would be an unmarked grave in a clearing.
Unless William framed her death as "suicide after divorce" but actually killed her and hid her body in an unmarked grave and then, he reacted with anger when Michael went looking for his mother's grave.
personally im on the side of midnight motorist not being about the afton family at all, because why would afton even live near that grave if its apparently such a common problem, and why would crying child even want to visit his mothers grave so bad?? and why would william live in a forest in the first place unless maybe hes trying to isolate himself and hide, like after committing a murder or being blamed for what happened at fredbears, but its unlikely that happened since if that is michael hes at home and not able to actually cause the bite of 83, and crying child must be alive if hes trying to find him i think the orange guy is just a random alcoholic abusive person unrelated to anything around aftons family, and afton just lured that kid out of the house for whatever reason
Dude, these videos of yours deserve SO much more attention and praise!! Your efforts and dedication to the art of editing and storybuilding really make these fnaf timelines stand out from the typical messy and confusing ones. I just watched the complete timeline video before this one, and they literally explain EVERYTHING!!* * ((except for Vanessa and Security Breach in general, but I don't really feel like it or fnafvr needs to be shoved in with the classic ending that was fnaf6 and ucn)) Loved these videos man, hope they get monetized soon!! you deserve the cash!
The only thing about the retro CDs that is a small wrech: The therapist says "I Know your mom" not "I knew". So based on that it seems that the mother of patient 46 is still alive
Well more likely it just means that “I know (information),” not “i know (person).” What I mean is that she currently knows the information that mrs afton committed suicide, not that she knows mrs afton. Saying “I knew” makes little sense grammatically.
7:44 If it was only for Charlie wouldn't you only give her a wristband, the colour not mattering? I think it's for all the children but it's prioritising Charlie.
Honestly, I also think the personality changes for Mike and CC come from Williams presence, or lack thereof: all the FNaF4 mini games have William away from the home, where Mike probably replicates some of his behavior to enforce power dynamics on CC. Thus, once William comes back home, Mike is subject to the same helplessness as the CC, and probably uses the TV as a way to disassociate from experiencing Williams presence in the house. And if Mike’s imitation of Williams actions already terrify CC, is it any wonder why he would break a window to escape when he knows Daddy might be on his way home? It also explains why William has a nanny cam system all around the neighborhood; between Mike leaving him at Freddy’s, and his frequent escapes, he’s got to have eyes everywhere. You might could even argue that the Fredbear plushie might be yet another way William keeps the CC in line.
I really like your theory except for one part. JRs not allowing him in because he is drunk feels weak. The guy at the door says "You know you can't be here" like there is a reason that William Afton specifically cannot be here. Besides this wrench, which can really screw everything up if you go down the route that JRs is a JRs Fazbear Pizza location and they are on the lookout for previous employees, the explanation for the grave and the animatronic outside are solid!
Thank you! And I do agree. It’s slightly weak. I think the reason JRs was there in the first place was to show that william was drunk driving in the first place, but that line is pretty odd.
@@svk_zoltan "clearly" you should be more open to theories man... The wording "you know you can't be here" is really weird especially when we know the eis an employee ban at some point in the story. Ignoring this is nonsensical
The orange guy has to be Henry, scott doesn’t just throw random details in, and the orange of orange guy is the exact opposite of the purple of the purple guy. It is a kidnapping, look at the ground more, the window is broken inwards, if it wasn’t, there would be glass all over the ground. Plus, this game was made by henry to tell us what happened, why would he give such a detail about the killer? I think that the grave is charlie’s grave, (all the kids knew she was outside), I think the body was found right after the party, henry and his wife and son buried her in the woods, henry went to the bar because dead child, and then he went back to fasbears because he got an idea of what happened. I’m not sure where henry thought his son went, but I am sure that he was actually kidnapped by Afton.
This is a complete mischaracterization for Henry then. Why is he abusive? Why is his son running away all the time? Also the glass not being on the ground is a non-issue. The absence of evidence isnt evidence. Its overspeculation on minute details of an Atari style low-fidelity minigame. What would be the point of this minigame if orange guy was henry?
@@ItalianBrussel 1.(why is he abusive) he’s drunk, he just lost his daughter, and he is worried that his son will end up just the same. 2.(glass could not be there because of the art style) Scott has proven over and again that this kind of detail is the kind of stuff he never misses (or rather misses once and then never misses again). I press x to doubt. 3.(what would the point be of this being Henry) what would the point of it being afton be? We knew he was the killer, we knew the crying child had issues, we knew that charlie is dead, we knew he drove away. Orange guy being Henry gives us the look into his story that 6 wants us to be paying attention to, he lost his daughter to afton, he lost his son shortly after, and now there is nothing left for him besides taking afton down. Which is a direct parallel to the silver eyes trilogy. What’s more is that we know this isn’t the first kill because the puppet security guard is already in place, which according to fnaf 2, wouldn’t have been until after the murders started.
This was an amazing video, and one that I think fits every character involved the best. Everyone has super complicated and contrived explanations for Midnight Motorist, despite the fact that FFPS was meant to tie up loose ends. Most people really overthink this minigame to the point of absurdity, but you’ve made something that flows really well from a narrative standpoint and makes a bunch of sense. Props to you, you have earned yourself a subscriber. I’m really excited to see what you do next! Btw, your production value and overall quality is that of a 100k youtuber, which is a very commendable feat, especially from a starter channel! Hope you get the recognition you deserve as soon as possible ^_^!
Mrs afton has no representation in any format of the lore only maybe some parts in ballora. I believe Mrs afton was probably a ballet teacher and she was training young girls to be good but then William came in and silently killed her putting her in a bag and taking her body with him. She could have been dark hair colored but that doesn't add up to Elizabeth being blonde because then one of them would have to be blonde. Either William afton is blonde or its the mother. But she could have dyed her hair to change it. I don't believe the custody battle case I think she was tired of her husband being an ass to their son because he was a jerk to his brother and because Michael scares Evan she had to come in and help him but when William atleast tried to be a good father and care about Evan he gives him the fredbear plush to calm him down. As for Elizabeth? She had a different mindset on something else. (Circus baby) baby was liz's idol and she wanted to be just like her a star and she wanted to admire and be friends with the robot but because the robot isn't programmed to safely not Kill any young children Elizabeth went for the ice cream and got scooped. She was only a child and she just wanted to be circus baby's friend and her fan. If she was never killed she would be almost 40-50 yrs old in the present. Same with Evan and Michael he died when he got scooped so he didn't age he stayed the same except he grew his hair out or probably just got a wig to cover his bald purple spot and the teeth were exposed so he looked like a zombie but he hid his face from being seen by the public.
Great point! We don't really have enough to get an exact time, but we do know that it's open during the night, as in the fnaf 6 Security Puppet minigame, we can see that it's dark out through the window, and in the back alley portion of the minigame it's still dark out. But you're right, it is a weird logical inconsistency that I've never thought of. I still think the theory stands, as the amount of evidence that this night is the same one as Charlie's murder is pretty sizeable.
@@ItalianBrussel Chuck E. Cheese itself is open from 11am to 9pm. (10 on Fridays/Saturdays) So it's entirely possible for Freddy's to have had a similar schedule.
This also explains why fnaf4 has bonus nights, after crying child dies i think the chr on the next nights is actually mike and not the crying child. Gj on the investigation.
Finally someone who convinced me I believed that Mike is the one from room Personality change really does makes sense, as well as nightmares causing C.C's fear
one thing that i dont understand is that if henry's daughter is the first victim on this theory, why does withered chica say that she was the first ?..
Anyone else just listen to fnaf theories while doing chores or gaming? Im not even playing fnaf im playing Stardew Valley right now. You always gotta strengthen your FNAF brain. Good video btw keep up the good work
The only thing I'm not satisfied with in terms of... well basically every theory ever is how FNaF 4 throws more monkey wrenches into the series than... I dunno... most people can account for. Every theory has to try to account for so many things in this game, and I'm pretty sure its all a result of the fact that Scott was originally trying to tell the story of the first three games being a dream. Why is there a talking Fredbear plush? Why are there toys of the toy animatronics before the toy animatronics existed? Why did Scott DROP A HINT ABOUT THE TINY TOY CHICA MISSING HER BEAK? So, with Sister Location and on, we're having to come back to these important aspects and try to make them fit into the story. I think it's the biggest reason why so many plot elements from FNaF 4 have not been explicitly revisited or elaborated on in later games. Is our best guess for the psychic friend Fredbear really that William just had walkie talkies in everything including the sewers and a... flower? I really wish Scott had just stuck with whatever his original vision for the first 4 FNaF games were and then done what he said he was going to do originally- Originally, he made it seem like FNaF would start over by exploring the alternative book narrative starting with Sister Location. I think the series would have been fine. We get the original FNaF 4 vision as Scott intended, and then we get the gritty serial killer story that we wanted from Sister Location onward.
One thing that you failed to mention that I don't think would've really changed the theory is the cam room in the bunker being unlocked through the code 1983, the year Afton's son died. I'm sure the code could've changed in between the event, but there'd really be no reason to do so considering this was a private room.
I have a slightly different take on the alley poster. I dont think it means the aftons, I think they're all mirrors of the salvage animatronics. Man in suit- Afton Clown- Elizabeth Puppet- Charlie Bear- Molten Freddy
William is clearly the man in suit and since the puppet looks like him but smaller it has to be michael, michael looks like william but charlie doesn't, also the bear has to be the crying child because it has sharp teeths and claws like nightmare fredbear and it even has a birthday hat
They very clearly mirror the Aftons. That’s not even up for debate. The bear even has a birthday hat. And the man looks identical to his puppet. Referencing how Michael looks like his dad
@@zAch90ed I do agree that the poster mirrors the Aftons. Although the birthday hat could be explained by the fact that Funtime Freddy (Who's in control of Molten Freddy) talks about birthdays and parties a lot.
5:05 This poster is probably a reference to the fnaf 6 animatronics. the man symbolizes william the clown symbolizes scrapbaby the bear symbolizes molten Freddy and the puppet symbolizes lefty
I would like to add my own small theory, it doesn't add much but it explains one massive question about the mini game. I think it takes place BEFORE Williams first murder, my reasoning for this is that we know the purple guy as the killer so when we see him as "orange guy" it's to indicate that he's not the killer we know him to be yet, he only becomes the "purple guy" when he kills Charlie.
Ok so i think this game has two intentions: One by Henry, and one by Scott. Henry's intention is to recreate one of William's murders, with William being the footprints NOT mustard man, and the other is Scott telling the story we all know it is.
He admitted finally that his ideas about that woman are just spontaneous ideas that aren't backed up by any evidence, he said recently that it's his random theory that people shouldn't accept seriously
orange dude is not william afton, he's the father of one of the mci kids, the animatronic footprints is william in a spring bonnie suit, the child that ran away liked freddy's so he ran away from his home and abusive father (which is drunk) and william killed him, you can know this from the toy chica cutscenes in ucn
Henry more than likelt did develope the security puppet, and I know we shouldn't use the books for refrence, but green is commonly assosiated with charlie , shown in many visual dipictions of her. Though, this is how I personally feel 🐹
Can the unmark grave is elizabeth? cuz she died inside baby and afton made that robot so instead of having a proper funeral he burried her so hes fazbear company and afton robotics stay safe. If hes wife died theres should be a proper burial or cemetery instead of unnmark grave🤔 thats when He got jealous of Henry perfect family and killed Charlie a daugther of Henry. Afton made Funtime, death of elizabeth, bite of fazbear, puppet for security, and the death of Charlie. We can say that Puppet was made not by William but Henry
You are claiming to have solved Midnight Motorist based on assumptions. Yellow guy = Purple guy and Midnight Motorist happening after Charlie death are in no way facts and so far I have not seen anybody being able to prove it. I agree that the dirt pile in the field is most likely an unmarked grave, but it makes no sense that Williams wife is buried there. Why would she be randomly buried in a field instead of a cementary? I agree that the foot prints most likely belong to spring bonnie, but it makes no sense why the spring bonnie would not be able to stand outside in an animatronic form just because its raining, why would it matter that spring locks would trip when they are not locked in the first place? Also why would the kid break the window to escape and not just open it as any normal person? And you cant argue that the kid was locked inside its room by yellow guy as he is the one not being able to get in. I think that the three lore minigames in Pizzeria Simulator show us 3 Aftons major kills. Charlie is Williams first murder. Susie is the first murdered kid in the missing children incident. And the Midnight Motorist shows us the aftermath of "the one you should not have killed" (Cassidy) murder. The yellow guy is a drunk abusive father coming home at night. The kid is Cassidy who has been kidnapped by William in the spring bonnie costume, the scenario directly matches one of the high school toy chica scenes which are Williams methods he used to lure the kids. The grave have been dug by William to dispose of the body. The fact that it is raining either means that it didnt rain when the kidnapping happened or it is "the one thing that could go wrong" as high school toy chica says. Maybe William paniced and had to get out of the suit and messed up the kidnapping. How the kid ended up possesing golden freddy though is a mystery to me.
if i can also add, because you (politely) didn't give it the credit i believe it deserves, keep in mind that all of the OG animatronics before and during fnaf 2 had been taken apart, the phantoms are most likely the spirits, possibly still blind to Williams hiding of the springbonnie or not, and may be trying to torture Michael, or free themselves, communicate w michael,etc however you would like to percieve it, just figured i'd say evidence best points in favor of the phantoms being the spirits, and maybe the mini games are them "telling the story "from their perspective and peering together Evan's memory
I honestly loved your Fnaf timeline which only made me really curious and excited to see what other Fnaf lore videos you would cook up and then this came out which only increased that excitement and curiosity even more. I enjoy seeing how others view the events that take place in this mini game because it’s honestly so confusing and I do hope we get more confirmation on some of the more confusing aspects of it in the future, but who knows, we might not. 🤷♂️
has anyone ever given an explanation as to why in the Afton family portrait poster in FNAF 6, the clown is the one holding the bear's leash, even though Elizabeth and the CC have had no canon interactions we've seen (to my memory)??
0:30 #2 is not something we know for sure. The Ultimate guide you mentioned also presents 2 theories, one that its a father of one of William’s victims and William himself. Im not sure what made you think this was confirmed. 🤔 #6 is also not confirmed, later that night could mean later in the night, not necessarily after Charlie’s murder. 6:13 according to the sister location bunker the house would’ve been built on her grave, which… ig is possible but would be a very strange choice. Might not even be possible if its a mound. I think in general youre giving too much credit to Michael. A young kid would not talk like the couch person, as in a blunt or even disinterested manner. If he was that protective then surely he wouldve gotten OFF the couch to defend his brother, instead of sitting there continuing to watch. I think it makes more sense for it to be a scarecrow outside rather than William, however in both cases, it’s weird that the footprints would be so far away from the window. The kid might not even notice with how far it is. Also, why the clickbait, you can just say this is your theory. Theres a lot of fan fiction in this too.
@@ItalianBrussel fair enough, sorry if i came off as condescending, I get that. In all honesty its not the worst theory ever, but just like many theories it has some holes. Keep doing what ya doin 🙏
William could be "orange guy" because he hasn't become the murderer of six kids yet yes he did just take Charlie's life, but he's not purple guy because he's not donning his purple uniform with the badge. That's the only reason we necessarily know him as purple guy. He could be orange because he's still an owner of Freddy's, or one of the golden suits I've thought about this for a while 🤷 You're still driving his purple car but he's not wearing the purple uniform.
Yes! Id also like to think of it as a symbolic reason. He’s orange because he hasnt fully changed into the “purple guy” yet, the psychopathic killer mad scientist we all know and love.
@@lightbulbsoncrack8666 how was it confirmed? How do you know that the full minigame was retconned? Even if the whole FNAF2 save him minigame was retconned, it still wouldnt make sense for a guy that has been only associated with the purple color to suddenly be yellow.
@@svk_zoltan it was originally the "save him" mini game then it became Charlottes death the first victim of William. When FNAF 2 came out we didn't know his name he was "purple guy" but by this point in the series we know his name so we don't need him represented as purple for one and two he hasn't become ""purple guy""
What about when Michael says I found it it was right where you said it would be? I’m not tryna debunk your theory or anything and I can’t remember you going over it so I was just wondering how that ties into this
Woah woah woah, rewind for a second, you flash the text “Elizabeth’s death … isn’t relevant to this theory,” but like… I feel like it kind of is? Because your placement implies that he builds the funtimes before the Bite of ‘83 *and* before he builds the underground bunker *and* before realising the remnant in the puppet. He builds the remnant stealing murder animatronics before all of that? I know you said you plan on making an entire video about Elizabeth’s death, but I do think there are a lot of questions that are opened up when look at this placement that impact this theory. I also don’t love the evidence of Mrs. Afton dying that way because, to my knowledge, the only evidence we have of that is that Vanessa’s mother seemingly died that way, which feels like a very loose piece of solo evidence. Plus Henry having “the perfect family” feels like very strange motivation to me since we’ve literally heard nothing about Henry’s wife and it’s unclear if Sammy even exist. Honestly Mat’s placement of the Marionette Secuirty system, flawed as it might be, makes more sense because I don’t think he explicitly says it was William or Henry, just the company in general, and, though it’s just tracking Charlie, I can see it being “after a tragedy like that, Henry is especially careful about the people he cares about the most.” Overall, well made video, interesting ideas, and some compelling evidence, so I’m interested to hear more from you, but I’ll admit I’m not super convinced by it.
Understandable!! I have a few reasons why the Funtimes come first, but ill leave that to my next video. And also willism is drunk when he kills charlie, its not entirely rational.
Near the start i have my first disagreement that because of the car it has to be William i personally think that was an intentional miss direct(i personally believe in cryonides theory that the later that night is actually referring to a 3rd important murder (charlie and Susie are depicted in the other games (especially based on ghe presence of glass not beinf noted outside (it suggests something entering then leaving) (the first murder, the first missing children incident victim and the first time william went too far) with the Grave being something exclusively for the player to see (basically he was in the spring bonnie suit but then it started raining (my personal guess is this is later after the night of give gifts give life) so he tried to remove the suit but was seen by Cassidy (the vengeful spirit(the one he should not of killed) which led to him panicking and in a blind panic he brutalized Cassidy's body creating a potent anger after coming to he feels guilt for the first time in a while and gives him a burial but after returning to the restaurant he sees the animatronics acting up and realises thst there possessed and that he finally has a way to fullfill his promise to his son maybe even fix the others too then his crime wont matter and he realises he needs more victims to experiment on to truely understand this gift of life so he goes out and retrives the body from the Unmarked grave and brings it into the freddies location in the night and seperate from the puppet stuffs Cassidy into the golden freedy suit
1. This is almost undeniably happening 'Later That Night' after the death of Charlie. The purple car almost proves this, as Charlie’s death minigames show that he was speedily driving off drunk (see tire marks) and not using the Springbonnie Suit as shown in FNaF2 and common sense as he hasn’t developed his killer signature. Every major theorist agrees on this, and I do as well. 2. Why would he give Cassidy a ‘burial’? It’s made relatively clear by the Security Logbook that they are the ‘one you should not have killed.’ Even then, the FNaF2 minigames show that there is a soul associated with the MCI inside Golden Freddy as shown in the 'Give Gifts, Give Life’ Minigame. I’m also very sure that this is supposed to be Cassidy, it just makes sense.
@@ajcon3874 1. and the yellow color of purple guy almost disproves it. The fact that most major theorists agree with this means literally nothing, as if they werent wrong like million times before. 2. read the comment again, and also he wanted to get rid of the body.
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Man you are so underated
this best take in theory i even see you get hard sub free :)
I just have one question about your timeline : the survival logbook states that it's made for the nightguards of freddy fazbear's pizza and michael draws a lot of things from sister location into it meaning sister location happens BEFORE fnaf 1 but you say it happens after, how do you explain michael talking about the immortam and the restless, casual bongos and exotic butters if sister location hasn't happened yet ?
@@grenouillesupreme talks about it after dingus
@@mattkerekanich the logbook was given to a different nightguard after plus fazbear entertainment requires nightguards to use the logboon after every shift so there's no way he waited until sister location to fill it, sister location is before fnaf 1
I always like seeing different interpretations of the lore because until scott gives us a real clear timeline it's all up to us to put these pieces together in the most comprehensive way
You're assuming that he will give us a clear timeline? If only that were true. The truth is that, unfortunutelly, theorizing runs this franchise. As long as there are mysteries to solve, we will only rarely get clarity and only on specific details, because that's what keeps the franchise afloat- theories are basically free promo- at the expense of the narrative and normal players, as much as I don't like it.
@@riskopalfi801although i feel like....this is what i feel like....at some point, before new installments he did made canon endings....like Fnaf 4, UCN....it feels off for it not to have its own ending at the time of their release and have a cohesive story, only after there was a new game after it, the story rattles and scrambles
@@GengUpinIpin Yes, I agree.
@@riskopalfi801i think theorizing is what makes it such a good game, you need to understand without the lore it would have died long time ago
@@Dapp07 Yeah. I'm aware of that. But I'm hoping that Ruin, at least, will have a line between theorizing and storytelling.
If the animatronic footprints were William's in the Spring-Bonnie suit, why would would they even be there that night? It's raining and obviously William isn't in the suit, so the footprints just shouldn't be there if they were his. Plus, only having 2 animatronic footprints while simultaneously having more than two human footprints indicates that the animatronic didn't walk, only leaving Golden Freddy/ Fredbear after being possessed by CC or Cassidy being the animatronic that night. And it's not impossible for Golden Freddy to leave footprints given we have seen non-physicsl entiries affect the physical world (i.e. Phantoms in FNAF 3 causing malfunctions when they show up. Puppet gaining streaks. Circus Baby gaining green eyes.) It's a decent theory, but sone things just dont line up.
_Masterfully_ done. All of this theory makes perfect sense to me (save for the Nightmares being real and Elizabeth's death, but those are theories for another day).
This actually happens to line up pretty exactly with a theory I wrote almost two years ago on Reddit. I think it's promising that we were able to come to the same conclusion.
RETROBEETLE!!! You’re the basis for this!! I credited you in my ultimate timeline video!!! I had this theory while doing my solved timeline and the next day I was browsing reddit and saw someone had come to the same conclusion!! Yayyy im glad you saw this, I wanted to expand upon it by exploring the aftermath of Midnight Motorist, thx for watching
Is Jr’s even a common name for a bar? I’ve never heard a single bar with that name.
😂 the moonwalk at 1:20. Lol!!!
And this is why I watch this over Matt pat, so much more accurate
This is the most well thought out interpretation of Midnight Motorist I've seen. Amazing job!
Absolutely perfect. I've been thinking this for YEARS aside from the spring bonnie part which makes perfect sense. I'm so happy someone agrees the Vanessa therapy tapes are actually Elizabeth's backstory put onto Vanessa and not her actual backstory.
if by perfect you mean imperfect hahahahahaha rofl
@@mattkerekanich😐
@@NoU-pf8fc I'm Italian brussel irl personal account jeez
@@mattkerekanichWake up bro 💀
Incredible editing, people normally don't really grasp the amount of work that goes into these types of videos. This channel really deserves more attention!
Editing was on tier (or just under)game theory in my opinion
I dont think mike defending his brother is particularly out of character. Yeah, he’s kind of a punk in FNAF 4 but he never meant to hurt his brother, he just thought it would be funny to scare him.
It's out of character because Michael doesn't talk like this. He's very long winded and has a way with words where he will go on tangents and use euphemisms. He says stuff like "Hey, I think the little guy wants to give Freddy a BIIIG kiss." And not "Let's put Dave in Fredbear's mouth.".
Even in his sister location custom night monologue he's long winded and uses metaphors like "I've been living in shadows."
So it's unbelievable seeing him act completely direct and just say what's on his mind with no filter in a game after all of those previous appearences that set him up with another way of talking.
I really hate how vague this minigame is lmao. I honestly have believed the 'Michael running away' theory for so long, I don't even know what to think. Cool analysis anyway, bro
It is Michael running away. He's going to check the unmarked grave because he's haunted by his dead brother and is checking to see if he's still dead. The person on the couch is Mrs. Afton, the mother. This takes place after the crying childs death, hence why William is drinking and the mother is drowning her sorrow in front of the tv.
@@Ace_of_Horns no, the person on the couch could be Henry as a temporary babysitter. The mother isn't present anywhere in the games and the person on the couch doesn't look like a female character
The thing that pisses me off about theories like these are the fact that the lore is so vague that anything can be true. You could write midnight motorist a million times and it would make sense because there are too little pieces and such vague lore that you can easily spin it multiple ways.
Like any theories theres always going to be things that dont add up, and with how vague this minigame is a bijillion different things could be what happened. But this theory is definitely my favorite so far and creates tons of solid interesting points and perspectives that other theories just loosely create
Do you think it could be possible that Mike could’ve been trying to toughen up Crying Child through tormenting him? That’s a theory I’ve had for a while.
No, I dont think Mike would use the thing that caused the terror to toughen up his brother, and it culminating in putting crying child into Freddy's mouth also doesn't seem to fit that idea.
If the motivation behind Michael's torture of crying child doesn't seem right to you but you like the theory overall there's another possible motivation:
Because Michael was also being tortured by their father he could have been wearing the mask and obsessed with scaring AS the monster who had been tormenting him. That's a very common thing. Dressing up as things that scare you and embodying traits of things that scare you are often ways of taking control over that fear. So his abuse of crying child may not have been from hatred but from trying to control what was scaring him: the same nightmare animatronics.
I don't think Mike ever HATED his brother beyond what's normal for two boys being abused by their father.
You said the mother committed unalive after divorcing William and losing custody. Why would her grave be outside Williams house if she had already lost custody and therefore does not live at that same house anymore?
It was never mentioned that it is her grave. It is more likely that it's C.Cs grave
@@wirginiamobillioit takes place before the Bite of 83
Literally checked your channel yesterday and was eager to see more content from you, regardless of how long it takes.
Great timing!
I've seen just about every "Midnight Motorist solved" video out there and, in my opinion, this interpretation makes the most sense. I really like the theory about the footprints, and the attitude change. The line "he's going to be sorry when he gets back" really does feel like it's hinting at crying child's fragile nature in part 4. Great video!
watch the video by the dude that made the 8 hour long theory video. i feel he truly solved fnaf, his midnight motorist theory seems perfect and logical
Now I wanna see you use this to explain how Gregory is the crying child who is actually a robot version of Charlie who was stolen by William but is actually the mimic and Henry destroyed the Charliebot after the real Charlie died therefore creating the Charlievirus that ends up being in Circus Baby because Circus Baby is actually a robot version of Charlie stolen by William because that chip in her arm we see in Night 5 is Green and Green means Charlie because Charlie wore a green wristband which also means Vanessa is a robot version of Elizabeth because she has blonde hair green eyes and because they’re green it means she’s actually a robot version of Charlie stolen by William-
*AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!*
makes perfect sense! :D
LMAO how I feel after watching too many contradictory theory vids
If the CC did break his window from the inside, there would definitely be glass outside on the floor, and CC wouldn’t have cleaned the glass while leaving behind the footprints. Unless Scott forgot that there would be glass outside, it basically confirms that the window was broken from the outside, so either it was broken with a projectile to avoid footprints close to the window, or the window-breaker doesn’t leave footprints (which leaves even more questions in a game that seems to aim to wrap up the lore) then CC either left of his own will, or was lured out after his window was broken, perhaps suggesting a Funtime animatronic due to their luring capabilities, though that’s only one possible solution.
I also think saying that the bear that represents CC in the poster shows him to be mischievous isn’t the strongest connection, as I think it’s more likely that - like Elizabeth being shown as a clown - he’s shown as a sharp-toothed bear in reference to being killed by Fredbears bite. You do raise an interesting point about the bear being on a leash to William as a strong clue towards CC being the runaway though. Even if I might have different views, great video nonetheless!
Scotr just didn't bother putting broken glass on the ground, that's it and no it can't be a funtime because they can't leave the facility, they aren't free
Thank you!! I understand your points, however the “Funtime lures a kid outside” theory seems pointless in the greater narrative of fnaf. The question to be answered is, why even include that detail? And regarding the window glass, I think looking into the details of an atari esque minigame for hard evidence is always a mistake, we should usually look at the greater picture, especially with scotts inconsistency with sprites.
@@ItalianBrusseli mean the other arcade game shows how one of the mci kids got lured so why wouldn’t another arcade game be doing the same and scott is almost known for putting in so much detail that it seems almost weird that he wouldn’t include a simple thing like the glass shattering. personally this theory just doesn’t add up to me but it’s an awesome video!!!
@@dxddy_chxlll9924I think it could be possible that since orange guy doesn’t mention the window being broken, just that “He ran off to that place, again” it could very well already be broken. Going off intentional details of Scott, wouldn’t the character be surprised if there was a broken window on their house? Just spit ballin :p
Honestly, the main thing that throws me off about any potential FNAF timeline is Elizabeth. Where is she during the events of midnight motorist and five nights at Freddy's 4? Why is she seeking revenge in FNAF:SL but seemingly loyal to william in FNAF:PS?
Sister location i think throws such a wrench into things in so many ways, and Elizabeth is so impossible for me to wrap my mind around.
my personal explanation is that Elizabeth is upstairs and asleep because it is midnight (we see the house has two stories from the external sprite). Also reminder that Scott has never been consistent with rooms in houses necessarily, Mike and William don't even have rooms in the fnaf 4 minigame house. And during fnaf 4 I think elizabeth has died already, i didnt include it in this theory video because it's a seperate narrative, but I think she died after midnight motorist and before fnaf 4. She doesn't seem to be seeking revenge in SL, but if she were trying to imply that, she was most likely lying to Mike to get him on her side, as Mike hates William (Baby lies throughout the whole game). She's loyal to William because William treated her well, unlike his treatment of CC and Mike. Elizabeth was clearly his favorite. Midnight Motorist in general throws a bunch of wrenches into things, but since fnaf 6 was meant to tye up loose ends, I think it was trying to give us as many answers as possible before moving onto things like Help Wanted and Security Breach. For example, we needed to know "What the Crying Child saw," Mike's motivations, why William killed Charlie, and why William's wife isn't seen anywhere in the story.
@@ItalianBrussel the crying child died first, not elizabeth, hand unit says that the funtimes were created to capitalize on the success of freddy fazbear's pizza after it was closed and the first time a freddy fazbear's pizza was closed was in 1985, two years after the death of the crying child
He says that the rental service was built to capitalize on freddys, not the Funtimes. The original locations the funtimes resides in was circus babys pizza world, but they were only there for one day. This was a cover up since elizabeth died that day, so it wouldnt make sense for hand unit to reference that location since it was a cover up.
@@ItalianBrussel Okay so, I had a spark of inspiration with this comment thread, and I'm surprised none has thought about this (Or at least I think) butt,
¿What if Elizabeth was not an Afton? ¿What if Elizabeth was adopted?
Think about it. All the Afton's have brown hair and blue eyes. Meanwhile, Elizabeth is blond and has green eyes. That doesn't work with the rest of the Afton.
Following this theory and with this in mind, after Midnight Motorist, William grows a strong hate against Michael and Crying Child, no longer considering them their sons. Because of this, he decides to adopt Elizabeth. That's why Elizabeth was always the favorite of William, because she was the only one that William considered like family.
PD: Sorry if my English is not great.
@@mryaki4763 Well, or Elizabeth isn't William's daughter. Mrs. Afton could have had an affair.
Bro. What if William k^**ed his wife?! It just popped in my head during the recap. Why is the crying child the only one shown to mourn his mother? And why is he so terrified of Bonnie? It doesn’t make sense for him to just be scared because he sees him outside his window. It’s creepy and a bit scary yes especially for a kid but it’s not enough to constantly keep him crying and be mortally terrified of the animatronics. Remember he loves them enough to still have toys of them.
My theory is this: After the custody battle between William and his wife ended, Mrs. Afton was not satisfied with the outcome and threatened to expose Williams crimes. Why would she let a monster like him keep their kids? To prevent that William put on his Bonnie suit and waited to strike his ex wife down. What he didn’t plan was that the CC saw the whole thing and in an effort to cover it up he lied and told him it was all a dream. Later the authorities found her and ruled it a case of self harm. But the CC knew that was a lie, he knew how she really died, he knew that it was Bonnie who did it. William asked to bury his wife in their backyard to throw them off from suspecting foul play, he just wants to make sure his kids could still visit their mother, is what he told them. Deep down he hated the very fact she would still be nearby and so he told his kids to never go near the gravesite. Michael obeyed because he didn’t want to anger his father. Elizabeth being the loyal daddy’s girl also listened because she didn’t want to disappoint William. But the CC never listened and out of spite William would put on his suit and stare at him through his window to make sure he stayed away. At the same time he also started k***ing other kids again and to make sure the CC wouldn’t interfere as well he made sure to remind him why he shouldn’t go there. “Remember what you saw”.
It’s a wild theory but if Brussel is right about the gravesite being Mrs. Aftons, it would make sense to me at least that the CC saw how she died. It also explains the “remember what you saw” he saw his mum get murdered by an animatronic, the Bonnie animatronic. I didn’t like Matpat theory of it being Elizabeth death because of that were the case he wouldn’t be scared of the original animatronics. The SL animatronics are completely different. As for the mouth stomachs MatPat uses as evidence, the CC died in the mouth of Golden Freddy. To him he was eaten by it, so it makes sense that he imagines them with Stomach mouths.
My theory might have some holes in it so please I welcome anyone’s feedback. And hopefully @Brussel sees this
This theory is stretching hard in a lot of area's, and at somepoints have things that just dont make sense.
So here's the strechy parts:
-Michael would never blame his brother for something he knows is his fathers doing.
- If mrs. afton really is in that grave then where is elizabeth? she has to still be alive at this time and cant be left alone.
- The poster is fan easter egg, not literal proof of things like afton is controlling michael. If that were the case then what the hell does elizabeth holding the crying childs chain mean?
- The poster also does not confirm mrs.aftons grave just because she's not there. she has no 'representation' in the games, period.
- 6:28 i think u missed this bit, also why would afton put his special suit out in the rain to get damaged?
- William didnt design the security puppet? what? when? Why would william build the security puppet to protect charlie specifically?
i assume u mean henry but even then, theres no correlation to charlies death being before CC's.
This theory tries to make CC the runaway kid so hard that it stretches everything around it to fit this one claim.
it grips at pointless things like the poster in fnaf 6 and says wierd stuff like afton being the one that made the security puppet.
It makes up a lot of bullsh*t to try and support CC as the runaway kid but it doesn't work.
-Mike blames CC because CC is. The reason William is punishing them
-elizabeth could be upstairs (we see the outside sprite has two stories. Also in the fnaf 4 house rooms have never been consistent (mike and william dont have rooms in the fnaf 4 house)
-the poster isnt an easter egg to anything, its just in the game, meaning its worth looking at. And good point about elizabeth. And, also, sure, mrs afton not being in the poster isnt hard evidence, just supporting evidence.
-he doesnt put it out in the rain to get damaged. He does this repeatedly on other nights to scare CC. Its because its raining on the night of MM that he cant put the suit out.
-yes I meant henry, but there isnt really anything saying charlies death comes after CC either, that portion of the video was the logic disproving that point. The whole point was to say William didnt build the puppet, henry did.
But id love to hear your theory for MM, not even meaning this passive aggressively
I still hate that the nightmares are retconned to be real, it just feels so wrong
I feel like it’s less real, and more of an illusion.
amazing theory, the only thing i find a problem with is: (if charlie's murder happens during midnight motorist) why would scott make william yellow when during the murder of charlie, hes purple?
I dont see this as a huge problem, since post fnaf 4 william is characterized as a human rather than just a crazy psycho serial killer, also in that same minigame, charlie is referred to as a “him” when she’s clearly been retconned to be a girl, so fnaf 2’s minigames havent aged well lore-accuracy-wise
@@ItalianBrussel thx for clarifying :) keep up with the good work
i love your fnaf theory videos, your timeline being my favorite and most sensible timeline i’ve seen. it would be stellar to have more theory vids in the future, i’m super excited for that. keep up the great work ❤
Ngl, I really believe that this theory is probably the most definitive of what probably happened in Midnight Motorist. But something about this theory I dont like is the idea that Micheal had been put in the nightmare experiments at the same time as the crying child. Like I know that Micheal was a bully, but if he knew what the nightmare animatronics looked like and how life-like and dangerous they were, it feels weird that he would still torment the crying child using the animatronics. We know that he isn't heartless since he is defending the CC and apologizes after his head got bit. It's also weird that Micheal would need to know that the nightmares are man-made experiments in order for him to have to blame CC for causing them.
I feel like a better sequence of events would be that Crying Child was experimented on FIRST after midnight motorist. CC would then become very scared and wimpy. Micheal would then bully CC because of how much of a crybaby he was(definitely seems like an older brother thing to do). After the CC got bit though, William then decided to put Micheal into the nightmare experiment as punishment. Which is why the big boss fight of FNAF 4 is Nightmare Fredbear(a personification of the animatronic that he accidentally used to kill his brother).
Random Idea. What if Midnight Motorist is William killing the child who would become the vengeful spirit? Think about it, in UCN through the toy chica cutscenes we learn that the vengeful spirit was not killed in a restaurant like the others but was kidnapped and killed. Perhaps William was standing outside their window in a spring lock suit to lure them out but perhaps because it was raining he had to take the suit off so he broke the window instead (notice how the window is broken from the outside) and kidnapped them. Orange guy is not William, the purple car matches with Williams car but the fact that he’s orange doesn’t. Just an idea but I don’t really know
Springtrap staring through the window is a really good insight. Definitely ties a ton of this together. In fact, I would say that's better supporting evidence for the gray shirt TV person being Michael than previous justifications. Really solid theory!
Springtrap staring through the window literally doesnt tie anything up. If anything it pokes holes into this theory by suggesting that it was William in the Spring bonnie costume kidnapping the kid.
@@svk_zoltanjust because something is unrealistic doesn't mean it's not supporting evidence. 90% of the stuff that happens in this franchise doesn't make any sense because the characters are acting irrationally.
What I'm saying is that seeing Springtrap stare at the player through the window FNAF 3 in order to intimidate them is canonical behavior of William. This theory suggests that CC was also intimidated in the same way. William wouldn't have to stay out there constantly, but just often enough to reinforce how scary it is out there, and CC could even plausibly notice that Spring Bonnie never seems to stand out there during the rain and therefore gives CC some assurance that the coast would be clear.
I don't think this theory is perfect, but I think that one data point about Springtrap in FNAF 3 is interesting to note and could plausibly relate even if the kid being watched in MM isn't CC and even if the orange guy isn't William. The footprints are there, not walking around but just standing there. That means either an animatronic or a springlock suit WAS just standing outside the window for long enough to leave footprints, even if neither of us find it to be compellingly reasonable behavior for anyone to do.
@@blanktester if we are considering willian afton, anything is compellingly reasonable behavior tbf
@@Malam_NightYoru That's partly my point. His behavior isn't compellingly rational even with firmly canonical events. He isn't a sympathetic villain.
I really really like most of this, but I disagree that the kids were aware the nightmares were William's doing, bc they wouldn't really have anything to be afraid of if they knew it was him, they likely would have figured he wouldn't kill them. I always kind of figured it was framed as actual nightmares, like they'd go to bed and wake up in the observation rooms. Additionally, I think William used the nightmares against CC to keep him scared of the animatronics, then later against Mike for killing CC. Mike in FNaF 4 seems more like he's being annoying and teasing CC for being afraid, rather than being angry and vengeful, which I would take to mean he hadn't experienced the nightmares himself and thus thought the fear was silly, and he didn't think he was in worse shape for protecting CC, or at least, didn't seem to resent having done so.
i like the theory, i just see two flaws.
first, why would mrs afton's suicide warrant an unmarked burial? should her body be found, wouldn't that cast a ton of suspicion on william?
second, if the intention of scott was to show that the footprints were created at different times, wouldn't something be done to add details that would better corroborate that idea?
all in all i like theories that work to push against the dogma of the community, whether or not they end up with holes
The grave could be C.Cs, not the ex wife's
I still honestly believe that the fnaf 4 nightmare animatronics are illusions bc the illusion discs are things in the fnaf universe (whether it’s book stuff or game stuff I can’t remember) and it makes sense to me bc fnaf4 itself is a game based on hearing and listening to the animatronics, and the discs work by sending out sound frequencies to trick the brain into seeing things different
As for the underground bunker in sl with the map of the houses, maybe the placements of the nightmare animatronics are just where the discs are placed instead of actual physical creatures? Just seems a bit of a stretch that these giant metal things just stand in the hallways of that “house”
I agree! But I think the Nightmares are closer to what the Twisted Ones are in that capacity; I think they are plastic shells with illusion discs attached.
The orange figurine is Michael...
Jackson.
This is very interesting take of MM that I haven’t heard anyone else mentioned and, although it’s a very cool theory backed by evidence, I still think there are a few questions left unanswered.
- Why wouldn’t William want CC to mourn for his mother, seriously what’s so wrong about that. I assume William would have hatred towards his wife considering that he divorced her using her own daughter against him in court which eventually lead to her suicide. Maybe William didn’t want CC to mourn for her out of spite. But if William doesn’t care about his wife then why did he become a drunken alcoholic, why did he murder Charlotte? If William doesn’t care about his wife than her death would mean nothing to him. But if William does care about his wife than why did he lead her to suicide and prevent CC from visiting her grave. Plus the fact that the graves is literally in his backyard, it’s not like the child is going far.
- Also I personally disagree with the idea of Henry having a perfect family and thats why William killed charlotte. Mainly due to the fact that we NEVER see Henry’s family in the entire franchise, at least in the games. We don’t even know if he as a wife. So to claim that Henry having a perfect family is what started Aftons entire killing streak when Henry’s family is never mentioned once in the games is big stretch in my opinion.
- Personally I also disagree with the idea that the security puppet was created just to protect Charlotte. If you look in that mini game, all the kids are wearing similar security bracelets just like Charlotte, it’s not exclusive to her. Could that be a coincidence , maybe, but in fnaf I doubt it. I think we both agree that Charlotte died a Freddy Fazbears Pizza rather the Fredbears. However, while Freddy’s require kids to wear security bracelets, Fredbears doesn’t as seen in fnaf 4 mini games. Why then would Freddy’s build the security puppet and require kids to wear security bracelets while Fredbears doesn’t. That wouldn’t make scenes unless something happened at Fredbears that caused Freddy’s to boost security. Enter the bite if 83. They built the security puppet and required kids to wear security bracelets to prevent kids from getting too close to the animatronics. To prevent another bite from taking place.
- This also explain why the security puppet is nowhere to be see in the fnaf 4 mini games. Now on its own this wouldn’t be a big deal, however the fnaf 4 mini games have a reference to practically every other animatronic that came prior to fnaf 4. Theres a reference to the toy animatronics, the classic animatronics, the withered animatronics, the shadow animatronics, balloon boy, spring trap, and even the endo- skeletons. However the one character that is nowhere to be found in the fnaf 4 mini games is the security puppet. And yes I know that fnaf 4 was retconned but we still need to take these things into account. There is no mentioned of the security puppet throughout the entire fnaf 4 mini games. Not through dialogue, not through plushies, not through toys, not through merchandise, heck the sercuity puppet doesn’t even appear in the tv show. To me this implies that by the times the fnaf 4 mini games take place, the security puppet hadn’t been created yet.
- Another question I have is Michael and the CC having the nightmares. If both Michael and the CC are having the nightmares than why does Michael tease his brother for being scared of the animatronics in fnaf 4. Michael would know exactly why his brother is scared if he’s having the exact same nightmares. Also wouldn’t you expect Michael to be just as afraid as the CC if he is also being tormented night after night by these animatronics. Why does Michael show almost no fear towards the animatronics in fnaf 4 and seen tease his brother for what her perceives as “an un-rational fear” towards the animatronics.
- Another interesting question is if Michael knew that William was giving him the nightmares, then why does he follow Williams order to go down into the sister location bunker. Surely he would know better then to trust the man that tormented him as a child right. It seems to me that Michael didn’t know about his fathers crimes yet and it was sister location that shoved the red pill down his throat.
- lastly I don’t think spring Bonnie was outside the window mainly because there’s only one set of footprints unlike the runaway in which we see a trail of footprints. If it really was William than we would expect to see a similar trail of footprints walking to or away from the window. To me the single pair of footprints indicate that whatever was outside the window did not walk or run here. Whatever was outside the window was simple there vanished, lasting long enough to leave one pair of footprints.
So why do I believe Michael is the runaway, well because it explains everything and leaves no question unanswered.
William becomes a drunken alcoholic due to the death of his son who we know he loves dearly. William promises his son that I will put you back together, showing that he does cares about him. The bite of 83 explains why Freddy’s require kids to wear security bracelets while Fredbears doesn’t. It was the bite of 83 that caused the remaining Freddy locations to boost security. It explains why William killed Charlotte, not because Henry has a perfect family that we never hear about but because William is a grieving, alcoholic father. After all if his child was going to die, than Henry’s child deserved to die. It explains the grave in the backyard, it’s CC a character who we know for a fact has died on screen. It explains why the person of the couch is so caring to the person in the room, because it’s not Michael the bully it’s Ms. Afton the mother. It explains why the person in the room locks HIMSELF in his room in the first place. We know from fnaf 4 that the CC practically has a mental breakdown when being locked in his room. While Michael is a teenage who are known for locking themselves in their room. It explains why theres a singular pair of three toed foot prints outside the window. It’s Fredbear who not only has three toes as seen in fnaf world but is also posed by the CC. Golden Freddy (who Fredbear eventually becomes) is know of teleporting into the office of Michael Afton which explains why there’s only ONE pair of footprints outside and not a trail. Fredbear also has motivation to be at the Afton house because it his house, his home, his family. It explains why he’s at the window of Michael specifically because Michael was the one responsible for his death. It explain what place Michael ran off too, the close down Fredbears family dinner, the place his brother died and his biggest regret was made. Thats why William was so angry with him because he’s not running off to his backyard, he running off to a close down building, possible even breaking in. And last but not least it explains the punishment William plans to give Michael, the nightmare animatronics who we know Michael has seen thanks to the survival logbook.
In my personal opinion not only is this a lot more satisfying and keeping the character personalities consistent, but also explain every single detail we see in that mini games without having to resort to offscreen character development. Michael runaway explains everything based on evidence seen in the games alone and leaves no questions unanswered. Anyway amazing video again and I look forward to more fnaf from you in the future 👍😃
I understand your points, Mike runaway is definitely a very viable theory. I want to believe it, but in the greater sense of the timeline I prefer my interpretation. As for the puppet not being in fnaf 4 its because I think Charlies murder occurred at Freddys and not Fredbears. All of your other points are great but mostly speculation (as are mine, its just a matter of preference). Thank you for spending so much time on this!!
Agreed, it really is just a matter of preference, only Scott really knows the correct answer. Anyway thanks for taking the time to reply to my little insignificant comment, it definitely made my day 😃. I look forward to watching your sister location video when it comes out.
1. People can be irrational and strange and cruel for weird or even dumb reasons. You only really learn this from life experience but I have met people like that, especially when alcohol is involved.
2. You're right that it doesn't make much sense for William to kill Charlotte, but then again very few stranger-involved child murders do. People have killed for less.
3. But then why build another animatronic to keep the kids from going outside if you're trying to protect them from the animatronics on the inside? That makes even less sense. I think the creator of the video's right in that it was probably just a security device built because Charlotte was probably 3 or 4 and Henry wanted to build a robot babysitter.
4. This isn't expressed in the main video but I personally think that the puppet was a one-time creation by Henry as a prototype to babysit his daughter, and after her murder he somehow figured out that her soul was in the puppet and became attached to it and decidesd to keep it around. Because think about it even in the 1970-80s that thing would have been considered nightmare fuel and there's no way it would have done well in focus group testing as a new mascot. Come to think of it it makes a lot more sense that William and Henry both worked on the puppet rather then just William because there's no way in hell that Henry, the genius engineer, wouldn't have noticed the tear thing or that the puppet was acting weird. William was probably able to keep the murder hidden from him for a while and after Henry found out he probably kept it under raps because he loved his kid and didn't want what was left of her to be taken away by the government and destroyed with himself probably arrested. This makes a lot more sense imo then Henry and the police just being complete morons for ~10 years.
5. People have different reactions to fear and are afraid of different things. There are 5 year olds who go through haunted houses smiling and laughing the whole time and there are 22 year olds who can't watch horror movies alone. Michael becoming brave and strong to the nightmare animatronics and CC becoming terrified and weak could have been the reason why Michael lost empathy for CC as he couldn't understand why CC was such a "crybaby" about the nightmares while he was able to get over his fear of them, just like how some kids who love swimming or riding bikes think a bit less of those who freak out at them and can't do it. Not everyone, especially as children, have a developed sense of empathy.
6. Some people are just more curious about things like that. He wanted answers.
7. He could have walked around the forest to make it look like Bonnie was coming out of the woods.
Some notes on your theory:
-Who is in the grave then and why do the footprints end there?
-I personally think that it's William who locks CC in the room because like you said it doesn't make sense for him to be freaked out when his brother locks him in his room if he'd done it himself a lot.
-How can CC manifest himself physically? That would break the established gameplay of the series and it also doesn't make sense why CC wouldn't try and talk to his Mom and Dad rather than just freak Michael out.
Slight side shift/addition to the Michael bit of the theory: What if he’s (in a dumb angry brattish big brother way) trying to make his brother less afraid of the animatronics because that’s his father’s main way of controlling him, with that therefore controlling Michael, not frightened by the animatronics. That rather than pure bullying. I say that because that would then make the FNaF games meta. That the more you get exposed and jumpscared, the less afraid you become - exactly Michael’s goal with his brother. And in-universe it then becomes dramatic irony that Michael is being tormented in the way he did his brother, that there really was something to be afraid of, and that ultimately his father’s plan to make them fear the animatronics ultimately comes true. But Michael will not let it control him. (Until. Well. It quite literally does).
William has always been associated with purple. There is no reason to change that.
Some problems that I extremely dislike being overlooked because even MatPat kind of ignored some of these before his Final Theory and even then he still missed a biggie.
First, there is a whole video by Sire Squawks stating why the couch potato is not Michael. So there’s that.
If the Nightmares were supposedly built after this minigame to keep whoever in the house… well this is a completely and totally different house. The layout and the damn location do not line up whatsoever and this is not by accident.
The smaller house can be because of how much money they lost from the casualties. I will say that MatPat’s theory about the couch potato being Mrs Afton and Michael having run away to check the grave of Evan, except for the house being different and the Nightmares having hypothetically already happened back at the old FNaF 4 house.
Also how could the Evan have not been bit if Charlie is just killed? She dies as a result of Evan being bit by Henry’s machine. So Evan has to be dead by the time this minigame takes place.
The only question remaining from MatPats theory is what the f*ck is outside that window if it cannot be a Nightmare or an apparition or William in the rabbit suit?
And to that I turn it to the replies. Fellow theorists, brainstorm if you will. I’ve been trying to crack this minigame for a literal month.
I do like Sire Squawks interpretation but prefer mine for timeline reasons. Also, due to Midnight Motorist its implied that Charlies death isnt premeditated, it’s an impulsive decision (william is impared by alcohol). It isnt definitive that CCs death directly inspired william to kill charlie
1:04
Are you sure orange guy is Willam Afton? He might be Michael Jackson.
Didn’t notice that. Will do further research on this theory. Nice catch
The only loose end left is the fact that the houses are different from one other in the cutscenes and the actual gameplay of Fnaf 4. I believe that the house in the cutscenes is Mrs Aftons house she quoted after the divorce which the family visits frequently. It is here that William gets more upset leading to micheal becoming more more upset and they both take it out of the crying child. This also explains why Mrs Aftons grave is there being that one of them found her and buried her on the backyard.
My thoughts have always been that:
- Mrs.Afton is the one watching TV on the couch, & she’s bald because she’s battling cancer. (A fight she’d later lose)
- Michael is the runaway, & subject to William’s nightmare experiments as punishment for causing his brother’s death.
- CryingChild’s death is what motivated William to kill Charlie when the opportunity presented itself.
Same tbh
The person on the couch isn't female, it looks more like a male character (Henry), and has the same grayish colour palette as Henry
were the nightmares physically built? I remember a theory that said illusion disks were used to hallucinate the nightmare as if it were physical
Wow, I can't wait for the next video 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I think jrs is not a bar i think its fnaf 2 because its basically the jrs version and i think that the mother of the children only divorced and did not kill her self i think its elizebeth that is burried
i havent watched the video yet but id just like to add that ive always thought afton being yellow was because it was him before he started killing and that was it
The small issue I have with this is your claim that William was mourning his wife who is the one buried in the unmarked grave. The problem is that the grave is UNMARKED and a large mound, like the body isn't buried very deep. That doesn't sound like a legit grave, that sounds like a body someone is trying to hide. What if William was an abusive drunk BEFORE her death and got carried away one night, killed his wife, buried her in the woods out back, and just told everyone she left him and unalived herself? There also weren't any footsteps around her grave to hint at CC going there, either, even though there WERE footsteps outside the window.
I don't think that he gave a crap about her to be honest. It's more plausible that he framed her in court and manipulated Elizabeth and CC against her because that is something that he would actually do as a revenge towards his ex.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.❤❤😊❤😊😊❤😊❤
Amen.
this is a really great video! i dont personally agree with everything, but its definitely something to think about
my main thing is like
if evan was just sneaking off and nothing more, why did he break the window instead of opening it
and if he couldnt open the window, why is there no glass shards on the ground when he broke it (because if it was broken from inside, there obviously should be glass on the outside)
William likely locked his window, and also the footprints are leading away from the window, so its someone breaking out. If you want to get super technical and be like “theres no shards on the ground,” well then that would also mean someone would have had to walk up to the window, break it, kidnap a child, then perfectly retrace their steps over their original footprints. The shard argument is super odd since it doesnt really conclude anything it just succeeds in complicating an otherwise simple visual storytelling tool, that being the broken window.
Great theory but I have 2 problems: first, the footprints being there in the rain imply the animatronic was out there in the rain to make the footprints (assuming it wouldn’t when it wasn’t raining), not before it started raining, which wouldn’t make sense if it were William manning spring Bonnie. And that also begs the question of when he would have moved the animatronic. Additionally, why would the mother be buried in an unmarked grave? While the therapy evidence is convincing, it doesn’t make sense to me why she would be an unmarked grave in a clearing.
Unless William framed her death as "suicide after divorce" but actually killed her and hid her body in an unmarked grave and then, he reacted with anger when Michael went looking for his mother's grave.
personally im on the side of midnight motorist not being about the afton family at all, because why would afton even live near that grave if its apparently such a common problem, and why would crying child even want to visit his mothers grave so bad?? and why would william live in a forest in the first place unless maybe hes trying to isolate himself and hide, like after committing a murder or being blamed for what happened at fredbears, but its unlikely that happened since if that is michael hes at home and not able to actually cause the bite of 83, and crying child must be alive if hes trying to find him
i think the orange guy is just a random alcoholic abusive person unrelated to anything around aftons family, and afton just lured that kid out of the house for whatever reason
Dude, these videos of yours deserve SO much more attention and praise!! Your efforts and dedication to the art of editing and storybuilding really make these fnaf timelines stand out from the typical messy and confusing ones. I just watched the complete timeline video before this one, and they literally explain EVERYTHING!!*
* ((except for Vanessa and Security Breach in general, but I don't really feel like it or fnafvr needs to be shoved in with the classic ending that was fnaf6 and ucn))
Loved these videos man, hope they get monetized soon!! you deserve the cash!
We are monetized again!! Thank you for the support means alot 🤩
The only thing about the retro CDs that is a small wrech:
The therapist says "I Know your mom" not "I knew".
So based on that it seems that the mother of patient 46 is still alive
Well more likely it just means that “I know (information),” not “i know (person).” What I mean is that she currently knows the information that mrs afton committed suicide, not that she knows mrs afton. Saying “I knew” makes little sense grammatically.
I always believe that Charlie was killed by William Afton after the Bite of 83 in a drunken fit of rage.
At this point they better rename this game to Coping Theories at Freddie's
I dont think anyone in Midnight Motorist is an Afton
7:44 If it was only for Charlie wouldn't you only give her a wristband, the colour not mattering?
I think it's for all the children but it's prioritising Charlie.
Honestly, I also think the personality changes for Mike and CC come from Williams presence, or lack thereof: all the FNaF4 mini games have William away from the home, where Mike probably replicates some of his behavior to enforce power dynamics on CC. Thus, once William comes back home, Mike is subject to the same helplessness as the CC, and probably uses the TV as a way to disassociate from experiencing Williams presence in the house.
And if Mike’s imitation of Williams actions already terrify CC, is it any wonder why he would break a window to escape when he knows Daddy might be on his way home? It also explains why William has a nanny cam system all around the neighborhood; between Mike leaving him at Freddy’s, and his frequent escapes, he’s got to have eyes everywhere.
You might could even argue that the Fredbear plushie might be yet another way William keeps the CC in line.
I really like your theory except for one part.
JRs not allowing him in because he is drunk feels weak. The guy at the door says "You know you can't be here" like there is a reason that William Afton specifically cannot be here. Besides this wrench, which can really screw everything up if you go down the route that JRs is a JRs Fazbear Pizza location and they are on the lookout for previous employees, the explanation for the grave and the animatronic outside are solid!
Thank you! And I do agree. It’s slightly weak. I think the reason JRs was there in the first place was to show that william was drunk driving in the first place, but that line is pretty odd.
Green man is clearly a bouncer and JRs is restaurant/bar. It is very reasonable for the bouncer to not let a drunk guy in.
@@svk_zoltan "clearly" you should be more open to theories man...
The wording "you know you can't be here" is really weird especially when we know the eis an employee ban at some point in the story. Ignoring this is nonsensical
The orange guy has to be Henry, scott doesn’t just throw random details in, and the orange of orange guy is the exact opposite of the purple of the purple guy.
It is a kidnapping, look at the ground more, the window is broken inwards, if it wasn’t, there would be glass all over the ground.
Plus, this game was made by henry to tell us what happened, why would he give such a detail about the killer?
I think that the grave is charlie’s grave, (all the kids knew she was outside), I think the body was found right after the party, henry and his wife and son buried her in the woods, henry went to the bar because dead child, and then he went back to fasbears because he got an idea of what happened.
I’m not sure where henry thought his son went, but I am sure that he was actually kidnapped by Afton.
This is a complete mischaracterization for Henry then. Why is he abusive? Why is his son running away all the time? Also the glass not being on the ground is a non-issue. The absence of evidence isnt evidence. Its overspeculation on minute details of an Atari style low-fidelity minigame. What would be the point of this minigame if orange guy was henry?
@@ItalianBrussel
1.(why is he abusive) he’s drunk, he just lost his daughter, and he is worried that his son will end up just the same.
2.(glass could not be there because of the art style) Scott has proven over and again that this kind of detail is the kind of stuff he never misses (or rather misses once and then never misses again). I press x to doubt.
3.(what would the point be of this being Henry) what would the point of it being afton be? We knew he was the killer, we knew the crying child had issues, we knew that charlie is dead, we knew he drove away.
Orange guy being Henry gives us the look into his story that 6 wants us to be paying attention to, he lost his daughter to afton, he lost his son shortly after, and now there is nothing left for him besides taking afton down.
Which is a direct parallel to the silver eyes trilogy.
What’s more is that we know this isn’t the first kill because the puppet security guard is already in place, which according to fnaf 2, wouldn’t have been until after the murders started.
This was an amazing video, and one that I think fits every character involved the best. Everyone has super complicated and contrived explanations for Midnight Motorist, despite the fact that FFPS was meant to tie up loose ends. Most people really overthink this minigame to the point of absurdity, but you’ve made something that flows really well from a narrative standpoint and makes a bunch of sense. Props to you, you have earned yourself a subscriber. I’m really excited to see what you do next!
Btw, your production value and overall quality is that of a 100k youtuber, which is a very commendable feat, especially from a starter channel! Hope you get the recognition you deserve as soon as possible ^_^!
I agree with the first part but not the second
Mrs afton has no representation in any format of the lore only maybe some parts in ballora. I believe Mrs afton was probably a ballet teacher and she was training young girls to be good but then William came in and silently killed her putting her in a bag and taking her body with him. She could have been dark hair colored but that doesn't add up to Elizabeth being blonde because then one of them would have to be blonde. Either William afton is blonde or its the mother. But she could have dyed her hair to change it. I don't believe the custody battle case I think she was tired of her husband being an ass to their son because he was a jerk to his brother and because Michael scares Evan she had to come in and help him but when William atleast tried to be a good father and care about Evan he gives him the fredbear plush to calm him down. As for Elizabeth? She had a different mindset on something else. (Circus baby) baby was liz's idol and she wanted to be just like her a star and she wanted to admire and be friends with the robot but because the robot isn't programmed to safely not Kill any young children Elizabeth went for the ice cream and got scooped. She was only a child and she just wanted to be circus baby's friend and her fan. If she was never killed she would be almost 40-50 yrs old in the present. Same with Evan and Michael he died when he got scooped so he didn't age he stayed the same except he grew his hair out or probably just got a wig to cover his bald purple spot and the teeth were exposed so he looked like a zombie but he hid his face from being seen by the public.
This theory makes too much sense to be written by Scott. I really enjoy it, but I doubt it's canonicity.
Way too high quality for a low amount of views
How late does Freddy’s close? Is it open past midnight or does William live hours away or just went on with his day after killing Charlie?
Great point! We don't really have enough to get an exact time, but we do know that it's open during the night, as in the fnaf 6 Security Puppet minigame, we can see that it's dark out through the window, and in the back alley portion of the minigame it's still dark out. But you're right, it is a weird logical inconsistency that I've never thought of. I still think the theory stands, as the amount of evidence that this night is the same one as Charlie's murder is pretty sizeable.
@@ItalianBrussel Chuck E. Cheese itself is open from 11am to 9pm. (10 on Fridays/Saturdays) So it's entirely possible for Freddy's to have had a similar schedule.
This also explains why fnaf4 has bonus nights, after crying child dies i think the chr on the next nights is actually mike and not the crying child.
Gj on the investigation.
Finally someone who convinced me
I believed that Mike is the one from room
Personality change really does makes sense, as well as nightmares causing C.C's fear
one thing that i dont understand is that if henry's daughter is the first victim on this theory, why does withered chica say that she was the first ?..
Probably the first to be stuffed into a suit and part of the MCI.
Anyone else just listen to fnaf theories while doing chores or gaming? Im not even playing fnaf im playing Stardew Valley right now. You always gotta strengthen your FNAF brain. Good video btw keep up the good work
CC the bear is kept on a leash to not run away. William you need a serious dog trainer! But still, I think he’s a good boy
The only thing I'm not satisfied with in terms of... well basically every theory ever is how FNaF 4 throws more monkey wrenches into the series than... I dunno... most people can account for.
Every theory has to try to account for so many things in this game, and I'm pretty sure its all a result of the fact that Scott was originally trying to tell the story of the first three games being a dream. Why is there a talking Fredbear plush? Why are there toys of the toy animatronics before the toy animatronics existed? Why did Scott DROP A HINT ABOUT THE TINY TOY CHICA MISSING HER BEAK?
So, with Sister Location and on, we're having to come back to these important aspects and try to make them fit into the story. I think it's the biggest reason why so many plot elements from FNaF 4 have not been explicitly revisited or elaborated on in later games. Is our best guess for the psychic friend Fredbear really that William just had walkie talkies in everything including the sewers and a... flower? I really wish Scott had just stuck with whatever his original vision for the first 4 FNaF games were and then done what he said he was going to do originally- Originally, he made it seem like FNaF would start over by exploring the alternative book narrative starting with Sister Location. I think the series would have been fine. We get the original FNaF 4 vision as Scott intended, and then we get the gritty serial killer story that we wanted from Sister Location onward.
One thing that you failed to mention that I don't think would've really changed the theory is the cam room in the bunker being unlocked through the code 1983, the year Afton's son died. I'm sure the code could've changed in between the event, but there'd really be no reason to do so considering this was a private room.
I have a slightly different take on the alley poster. I dont think it means the aftons, I think they're all mirrors of the salvage animatronics.
Man in suit- Afton
Clown- Elizabeth
Puppet- Charlie
Bear- Molten Freddy
William is clearly the man in suit and since the puppet looks like him but smaller it has to be michael, michael looks like william but charlie doesn't, also the bear has to be the crying child because it has sharp teeths and claws like nightmare fredbear and it even has a birthday hat
They very clearly mirror the Aftons. That’s not even up for debate. The bear even has a birthday hat. And the man looks identical to his puppet. Referencing how Michael looks like his dad
@@zAch90ed I do agree that the poster mirrors the Aftons. Although the birthday hat could be explained by the fact that Funtime Freddy (Who's in control of Molten Freddy) talks about birthdays and parties a lot.
"He is aggressively speeding on the wrong side of the road"
Me who aggressively speeds on the right side of the road in the Minigame: 😶
5:05 This poster is probably a reference to the fnaf 6 animatronics.
the man symbolizes william
the clown symbolizes scrapbaby
the bear symbolizes molten Freddy
and the puppet symbolizes lefty
Or, People saying those "Animatronic Footprints" are just Grass outside but Flat since it's 2D.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's grass
I would like to add my own small theory, it doesn't add much but it explains one massive question about the mini game. I think it takes place BEFORE Williams first murder, my reasoning for this is that we know the purple guy as the killer so when we see him as "orange guy" it's to indicate that he's not the killer we know him to be yet, he only becomes the "purple guy" when he kills Charlie.
Ok so i think this game has two intentions: One by Henry, and one by Scott.
Henry's intention is to recreate one of William's murders, with William being the footprints NOT mustard man, and the other is Scott telling the story we all know it is.
Matpat would be triggered seeing this, as he predicted that mrs afton is still alive
He admitted finally that his ideas about that woman are just spontaneous ideas that aren't backed up by any evidence, he said recently that it's his random theory that people shouldn't accept seriously
bro how you have 10k subs only, you deserve 100k at least
orange dude is not william afton, he's the father of one of the mci kids, the animatronic footprints is william in a spring bonnie suit, the child that ran away liked freddy's so he ran away from his home and abusive father (which is drunk) and william killed him, you can know this from the toy chica cutscenes in ucn
Henry more than likelt did develope the security puppet, and I know we shouldn't use the books for refrence, but green is commonly assosiated with charlie , shown in many visual dipictions of her. Though, this is how I personally feel 🐹
Yup, totally agree
All of you fnaf youtubers got the timeline wrong.
Glad you see me as a fnaf youtuber!!
How does one get the FNaF Timeline RIGHT?
Can the unmark grave is elizabeth? cuz she died inside baby and afton made that robot so instead of having a proper funeral he burried her so hes fazbear company and afton robotics stay safe. If hes wife died theres should be a proper burial or cemetery instead of unnmark grave🤔 thats when He got jealous of Henry perfect family and killed Charlie a daugther of Henry. Afton made Funtime, death of elizabeth, bite of fazbear, puppet for security, and the death of Charlie. We can say that Puppet was made not by William but Henry
How do we know that both Michael and the crying child are in the FNAF4 room? Other analyses I've seen pick one or the other
You are claiming to have solved Midnight Motorist based on assumptions. Yellow guy = Purple guy and Midnight Motorist happening after Charlie death are in no way facts and so far I have not seen anybody being able to prove it. I agree that the dirt pile in the field is most likely an unmarked grave, but it makes no sense that Williams wife is buried there. Why would she be randomly buried in a field instead of a cementary? I agree that the foot prints most likely belong to spring bonnie, but it makes no sense why the spring bonnie would not be able to stand outside in an animatronic form just because its raining, why would it matter that spring locks would trip when they are not locked in the first place? Also why would the kid break the window to escape and not just open it as any normal person? And you cant argue that the kid was locked inside its room by yellow guy as he is the one not being able to get in. I think that the three lore minigames in Pizzeria Simulator show us 3 Aftons major kills. Charlie is Williams first murder. Susie is the first murdered kid in the missing children incident. And the Midnight Motorist shows us the aftermath of "the one you should not have killed" (Cassidy) murder. The yellow guy is a drunk abusive father coming home at night. The kid is Cassidy who has been kidnapped by William in the spring bonnie costume, the scenario directly matches one of the high school toy chica scenes which are Williams methods he used to lure the kids. The grave have been dug by William to dispose of the body. The fact that it is raining either means that it didnt rain when the kidnapping happened or it is "the one thing that could go wrong" as high school toy chica says. Maybe William paniced and had to get out of the suit and messed up the kidnapping. How the kid ended up possesing golden freddy though is a mystery to me.
if i can also add, because you (politely) didn't give it the credit i believe it deserves, keep in mind that all of the OG animatronics before and during fnaf 2 had been taken apart, the phantoms are most likely the spirits, possibly still blind to Williams hiding of the springbonnie or not, and may be trying to torture Michael, or free themselves, communicate w michael,etc however you would like to percieve it, just figured i'd say evidence best points in favor of the phantoms being the spirits, and maybe the mini games are them "telling the story "from their perspective and peering together Evan's memory
I honestly loved your Fnaf timeline which only made me really curious and excited to see what other Fnaf lore videos you would cook up and then this came out which only increased that excitement and curiosity even more. I enjoy seeing how others view the events that take place in this mini game because it’s honestly so confusing and I do hope we get more confirmation on some of the more confusing aspects of it in the future, but who knows, we might not. 🤷♂️
has anyone ever given an explanation as to why in the Afton family portrait poster in FNAF 6, the clown is the one holding the bear's leash, even though Elizabeth and the CC have had no canon interactions we've seen (to my memory)??
0:30 #2 is not something we know for sure. The Ultimate guide you mentioned also presents 2 theories, one that its a father of one of William’s victims and William himself. Im not sure what made you think this was confirmed. 🤔
#6 is also not confirmed, later that night could mean later in the night, not necessarily after Charlie’s murder.
6:13 according to the sister location bunker the house would’ve been built on her grave, which… ig is possible but would be a very strange choice. Might not even be possible if its a mound.
I think in general youre giving too much credit to Michael. A young kid would not talk like the couch person, as in a blunt or even disinterested manner. If he was that protective then surely he wouldve gotten OFF the couch to defend his brother, instead of sitting there continuing to watch.
I think it makes more sense for it to be a scarecrow outside rather than William, however in both cases, it’s weird that the footprints would be so far away from the window. The kid might not even notice with how far it is.
Also, why the clickbait, you can just say this is your theory. Theres a lot of fan fiction in this too.
I clickbait because its how you survive on youtube, and I think this theory is pretty valid. But I understand your point
@@ItalianBrussel fair enough, sorry if i came off as condescending, I get that. In all honesty its not the worst theory ever, but just like many theories it has some holes. Keep doing what ya doin 🙏
np shawty bae
First video of yours I've seen but will absolutely be back for more 😊
Another possible explanation why he is mustard coloured here is to indicate he is drunk like the colour of beer.
but now I got another question
how did no one call the cops when they see a orange man driving a purple car at 200 mph on the other side of the road
William could be "orange guy" because he hasn't become the murderer of six kids yet yes he did just take Charlie's life, but he's not purple guy because he's not donning his purple uniform with the badge. That's the only reason we necessarily know him as purple guy. He could be orange because he's still an owner of Freddy's, or one of the golden suits I've thought about this for a while 🤷
You're still driving his purple car but he's not wearing the purple uniform.
Yes! Id also like to think of it as a symbolic reason. He’s orange because he hasnt fully changed into the “purple guy” yet, the psychopathic killer mad scientist we all know and love.
except in the FNAF2 charlie murder he is purple already.
@@svk_zoltan it's been confirmed that was the only thing Scott reckoned in the series.
@@lightbulbsoncrack8666 how was it confirmed? How do you know that the full minigame was retconned? Even if the whole FNAF2 save him minigame was retconned, it still wouldnt make sense for a guy that has been only associated with the purple color to suddenly be yellow.
@@svk_zoltan it was originally the "save him" mini game then it became Charlottes death the first victim of William. When FNAF 2 came out we didn't know his name he was "purple guy" but by this point in the series we know his name so we don't need him represented as purple for one and two he hasn't become ""purple guy""
Also explain why Scott redesigned Springtrap and made sure to give him feet in FFPS.
yeah, most likely to clarify that the springlocks had three toes
@@ItalianBrussel I'm talking about to clarify that it is indeed Spring Bonnie's footprints outside the window.
I am SO in deep into the lore of a game series I’m too scared to play, myself. Nice theory!
This is probably the best theory yet on midnight motorist. Lemme give you a sub ❤❤❤
What about when Michael says I found it it was right where you said it would be? I’m not tryna debunk your theory or anything and I can’t remember you going over it so I was just wondering how that ties into this
Can't wait to see the 3 part hour long gt live series on this! 😂 Great work
Woah woah woah, rewind for a second, you flash the text “Elizabeth’s death … isn’t relevant to this theory,” but like… I feel like it kind of is?
Because your placement implies that he builds the funtimes before the Bite of ‘83 *and* before he builds the underground bunker *and* before realising the remnant in the puppet. He builds the remnant stealing murder animatronics before all of that?
I know you said you plan on making an entire video about Elizabeth’s death, but I do think there are a lot of questions that are opened up when look at this placement that impact this theory.
I also don’t love the evidence of Mrs. Afton dying that way because, to my knowledge, the only evidence we have of that is that Vanessa’s mother seemingly died that way, which feels like a very loose piece of solo evidence.
Plus Henry having “the perfect family” feels like very strange motivation to me since we’ve literally heard nothing about Henry’s wife and it’s unclear if Sammy even exist. Honestly Mat’s placement of the Marionette Secuirty system, flawed as it might be, makes more sense because I don’t think he explicitly says it was William or Henry, just the company in general, and, though it’s just tracking Charlie, I can see it being “after a tragedy like that, Henry is especially careful about the people he cares about the most.”
Overall, well made video, interesting ideas, and some compelling evidence, so I’m interested to hear more from you, but I’ll admit I’m not super convinced by it.
Understandable!! I have a few reasons why the Funtimes come first, but ill leave that to my next video. And also willism is drunk when he kills charlie, its not entirely rational.
Near the start i have my first disagreement that because of the car it has to be William i personally think that was an intentional miss direct(i personally believe in cryonides theory that the later that night is actually referring to a 3rd important murder (charlie and Susie are depicted in the other games (especially based on ghe presence of glass not beinf noted outside (it suggests something entering then leaving) (the first murder, the first missing children incident victim and the first time william went too far) with the Grave being something exclusively for the player to see (basically he was in the spring bonnie suit but then it started raining (my personal guess is this is later after the night of give gifts give life) so he tried to remove the suit but was seen by Cassidy (the vengeful spirit(the one he should not of killed) which led to him panicking and in a blind panic he brutalized Cassidy's body creating a potent anger after coming to he feels guilt for the first time in a while and gives him a burial but after returning to the restaurant he sees the animatronics acting up and realises thst there possessed and that he finally has a way to fullfill his promise to his son maybe even fix the others too then his crime wont matter and he realises he needs more victims to experiment on to truely understand this gift of life so he goes out and retrives the body from the Unmarked grave and brings it into the freddies location in the night and seperate from the puppet stuffs Cassidy into the golden freedy suit
1. This is almost undeniably happening 'Later That Night' after the death of Charlie. The purple car almost proves this, as Charlie’s death minigames show that he was speedily driving off drunk (see tire marks) and not using the Springbonnie Suit as shown in FNaF2 and common sense as he hasn’t developed his killer signature. Every major theorist agrees on this, and I do as well.
2. Why would he give Cassidy a ‘burial’? It’s made relatively clear by the Security Logbook that they are the ‘one you should not have killed.’ Even then, the FNaF2 minigames show that there is a soul associated with the MCI inside Golden Freddy as shown in the 'Give Gifts, Give Life’ Minigame. I’m also very sure that this is supposed to be Cassidy, it just makes sense.
@@ajcon3874 1. and the yellow color of purple guy almost disproves it. The fact that most major theorists agree with this means literally nothing, as if they werent wrong like million times before.
2. read the comment again, and also he wanted to get rid of the body.
I tried to watch this when you posted this but liam told me that “nows not the time”. We are no longer on speaking terms
thank you grandma