My Strongest Hive SWARMED. Now What?
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- In this video, you’ll see me check a hive in March that I do not do any management to.
This turned out to be quite a vicious africanized colony.
Then, three weeks later, I discovered a massive amount of recently stored honey that was not there previously, so I gave them another box so they could make some more honey.
Six days after that, the hive swarmed.
Watch to see what happens!
Puuuuh yeah they're really not taking prisoners...
But it looked very epic seeing such a giant swarm!
gladfully no of my hives swarmed the last two years.
When I see that, I know that my Hives couldn't even in their worst moments be as aggressive as that one...
Much respect for you to keep them!!
This is an easy way to get rid of your mean queen (sorta).
Make a split from a nice good hive.
Wait 7 days, now----go into your mean hive and make a Taranov Split.
Do whatever you want with this mean Taranov Split (I can't kill queens, I just keep them in tiny hives, like a nuc)
Now---Place frames (which have queen cells on them) from the nice hive split.
In 3 weeks you should have nice queen genetics.
Respect for working those mean little critters. I've got hot bees, but those are next level.
A hand water sprayer will add to smoker effect.
We can say you have succes with the ladies. If this happens to me, I don't know what to do, but you kept yourself together.
Amazing footage in these circumstances. I've seen worse one time before on the channel from 'white house on the hill'.
He didn't want to kill the bees either but did in the end; it was absolutely dangerous.
Cool colored hives!
I say good riddance to those 🐝. Not worth it. Cool video, thanks for sharing.
Bless you, been there and done that. Not fun. Get up your courage and replace that queen. It should make all the difference.
Dang! Those are some angry beez!
So cool!
I've had them swarm then return to the same box.
The instant they returned I split that hive!!!
Frik Uys
You are so correct they were hot. Sharing with you my little experience from South Africa. I saw a comment that was made two people working together. If you know you have Africanized bees or for that matter a hot hive I will have a extra hand with me one operating the smoker and don't work sparingly with the smoke.
Protective wear make sure you use garters around your ankles or tape the legs of you overall with insulation tape or masking tape to stop the bees getting into your pants. I always have a small spray bottle at hand with white vinegar to spay on should I pick up a sting, it help to keeppheromone smell down and help to stop attracting more bees to the same spot.
Not all Africanized bees are hot. Super smart to remove the queen and replace her with your own in house queen.
The Africanized bees will follow you for kilometers if they are really pissed and not 300 meters. I am speaking from self experience.
The correct thing to do is keep your vehicle close by where possible. Get in the vehicle with the bees. Start your vehicle up put your air conditioner and fan on maximum cold and maximum fan speed. Let the cold air work through the vehicle by opening your front windows about 3 to 4 inches. Travel at a low speed around 30 km per hour or slower. In no time the bees will fly out the windows and out the car.
I had the same experience as what you had bees following me probably for about 1.5 km Open space or in shrubs they are not deterred.
I left my vehicle keys in my denim pants pocket and had a overall on and could not retrieve my keys. Luckily for me a college came and picked me up in his vehicle with the air conditioner on and we could clear the bees out in no time.
Keep safe from South Africa.
With Africanized bees You need a 2nd person to use the smoker.
I'm curious if using a fume board as a chest plate might help with his armor?
It’s not the case of choosing your time went to go into the hive thinking it will be okay it’s all about you breeding your own Queens and letting them go on mating-flights and drones for A this hive actually going out and meeting with your queens you’ll end up with an absolute nightmare if you don’t deal with his hive😅
Wow! I'd say they definitely have the African gene in their line. That is crazy. I get one sting and say they are not happy lol!
Yeah they’ve got some evil in them for sure. But boy do they put in work 🙃
Any for sale ? I can use them.
You are planning a murder maybe? JK.
Very cool. Thanks for the video.
So I'm thinking you could purposely divide this hot hive into 3 or 4 small colonies, boxes. But then lock them inside their boxes, so they can't go back to the main one to acclimate them on they are a differnet colony. You'd only have to do this like 3 days, maybe 2. And you want them extra small because of their fierceness. Aftet the 3 day mark put in cordovan queens from somewhere else and also kill the queen cells in there, since you probably don't want queens from the hottest hive in your yard.
You could rig up some screens on top of some lids to make a larger air screen for locking them in in such a way that they don't panic and smother themselves on the entrance too if you want to. You can also have all the boxes and frames ready before you divide them, so that you can minimize time with them for exposure. You might have to do the subdividing in more than one shot though since its easier to subdivide by each box, but when you are going extra small and doing half a box that's more time being exposed to them.
A strategy some people are doing with cordovans seems to be viable to requeen because supposedly cordovans are more gentle. But on the other aspect, going extra small and splitting really small would force them to be too small to do much damage, so you can manage better. Although some people think cordovans aren't really great for overwintering. But who cares if your hive is too hot too handle.
I don't want you to get hurt working hives like that. But I do share your frustration in that I love bees and want to have a chance to fix it. I just love working them. They are fun as hell, and I can't imagine doing something else. But I do want to improve on a lot of stuff. i'm still not great on overwintering, and you do a lot of stuff better than me.
:) Thanks for the video.
I'm sure the africanized honey tastes the same - but wow the bees are aggressive. I read they will chase you 300 ft.
Maybe something in the honey makes them aggressive? (I'm sure not)
If you eat the honey it makes you aggressive? (Probably not) (but maybe don't eat it before important meetings)
No it's sweeter than normal .Look for Arizona AFB honey hunting .They go way out in the Desert and collect
They'll chase you way longer than 300 ft...
Curious if you could make them drunk with beer sugar water before going in to see if they'd be less ferocious?
Hey I'd try anything to survive this you know.
The honey is better. I think also has healthier benefits if I’m not mistaken. The bees are more aggressive because of their genetics. They’re like Vikings or Spartans. They’re strong and powerful and their culture is made for war. They even have attack bees which American hives do not even have that career option lol. It’s their genes that make them so angry which is why they must be euthanized or they could really hurt someone especially children.
I would drown them in soapy water
Yes! I learned this method later on. Will do that next time if I ever need to kill a hive. This one isn’t too bad though
Just do it
I do like your channel but this is dangerous and honestly selfish. I understand Africanized bees do produce well and are less susceptible to disease but you live in a neighborhood. It is your responsibility as a keeper to protect the bees yourself and those around you. These bees swarming basically means you just unleashed vicious bees not only into your neighborhood that can hurt people but also into the gene pool so they can infect the bloodline of other bees and create more Africanized hives which is a problem that’s nearly unfixable. Please think of everyone when you’re deciding to euthanize these bees. If you hear anyone within 20 miles has succumbed to bee related injuries you’ll blame yourself. It’s time for these aggressive hives to go and to replace them with more gentle and normal hives maybe from a local beekeeper.
I appreciate your general mindset that africanized bees are bad, however there are clearly a handful of things you are fully unaware of.
1. You don’t know where I live or how far my neighbors are.
I call it a neighborhood. It kinda is, but not really. Lots of acreage between lots, and I don’t have direct neighbors, they’re abandoned houses.
2. This is Texas. Bees move into structures here ALL. THE. TIME. Constant calls, nothing new. You see bees coming and going, you typically call a beekeeper or an exterminator. Lots of removal folks around here able to remove the hot ones.
3. This hive is intentionally small cell and my meanest most natural feral hive. They will probably move into an oak tree and provide me swarms later on. Or they’ll get killed by an exterminator, not my problem.
However, what I did not show - I caught about three more swarms from this same hive, same year. They are all nice colonies.
I am also a queen producer. I produce virgin queens from my best bees. I let those queens open breed to all the random drones from around here.
I’ve never had a colony come back that is aggressive like some of these old colonies I have. (My big old colonies I have were caught from swarms from San Antonio YEARS ago.)
Lots of mean bees there.
Hope this helps.
Sorry it upsets you but this is Texas, we’ve got mean bees here and there.
If anything, I am normally doing the opposite of what you describe. I produce a lot of bees and they aren’t like this colony. The objective is to catch feral bees and let them live like they live. Can I make quality VSH queens that are good survivors over winter? Guess we’ll find out this spring, as that will be the first full season with my own queens.
Long story short, I can requeen my bees whenever I want, just don’t really want to on certain ones. The door is wide open with my bees, I just give them a place to live. I take from the feral reserve, and I give back to the feral reserve.
@@brownsbeefarm good thing. I just saw you saying maybe on another video that u have neighbors who love to take walks and I got immediately concerned but the facts are if it works for u and yours and you guys are really the ones being exposed to them then the decision is completely yours. At the end of the day Africanized bees produce the most honey and some of the highest quality and healthiest honey so I totally get it and as long as no bystanders are getting hurt it’s really not my business. Have a nice day ❤️
@@cecemimi101 you’re correct, they do walk the roads and whatnot but they’re all cool with my bees. I have my mean ones a good ways into my land and not near the road, just in case.
are they wasps or bees?? :D :D