thanks for the videos. very informative. I did a clutch in a 1980 police Harley. it was the original clutch. 80,000 miles.. the owner went for a ride down the street and back. and he had the biggest smile on his face. he was so happy to have the wind split his beard again. thanks Todd. for making a Harley Owners happy...
I've been an automotive mechanic for many years, just started working on Harley's about 5 years ago and your videos have helped me with a lot of the the tips n tricks. I recently inherited my father in laws 85 fat bob 1340 with the 4 speed when he passed away in feb this year. I rode the bike 20 miles after he had it in storage for 3 years and out of no where the clutch started slipping at 1/4 throttle in 4th gear at 55 mph. This video really answered a lot of questions I had being the first 4 speed I ever touched. Thank You.
Thanks for the help my father died and left me a few bikes and this video really help on the Panhead. I'm glade someone is helping to keeping the " Legend " alive because Harley just lives on it but don't help at all.... Well they may tell you hey its time to buy a new bike yours is old. Thanks Again I Wish There Were More People Like You Out There.....
@@michaelmitchell5909 Pacific Mike is really good also.... There are also a lot of video's on you tube of guys working on shovelheads and they are dangerous.
I did a frame up restoration on an 81 Shovelhead,, it took a long time, but after watching this video the clutch install went smooth as silk. I got a lot of new parts, but ended up using most of my old OEM parts. I put a tamer into it at the time and it shifts great,, you can't even tell it's in gear unless you let the clutch out, its that smooth. I thank you for making this Todd,, it was a great help.
I can't believe your using the 5 stud instead of the three stud hub. Harley designed it with three studs for a reason and it's not supposed to release evenly. it is supposed to ease into it. Everyone should be required to watch this video before assembling the clutch. You did a fabulous job of explaining this.
Thanks Brother for the great vid doing my first 4 speed clutch (early 84 softail) thats been sealed and over filled and slipping like a biotch and this just makes it so easy from one rider to another much respect! Keep the shinny side up and keep putting these over priced yuppy rapers in their place some forget these bikes where worked on and built in peoples garages for decades they have their quirks but they definitely are a wrencher's bike!
Todd, that was painfully excellent! Between the 9/16 and 1/2 sockets and clean hands you reminded me why I made it a 3hr, just to pay attention. (Takes twice most times). I'm rebuilding my father in laws 80 Fl, he passed and left it for her. "Old school". I had it running, rode it with my wife. Busted tab in dry belt clutch, I think. Please keep posting! I live in VA, I know a little, but good dudes that think an EVO is still the knew motor...priceless! Thank you for making the manual make sense! I think you'd like this bike!
I cant tell you how much I appreciate your videos. I have the manuals but the little hints and tips you give and just the visual of it helps Tremendously!~ Thanks again for taking your time to show us first timers.
I want to say this is a great video, working on my dads 52 that was passed on to me and the clutches have been a BIG nightmare and NO one knows how to work on them, I've asked many and dad has had several people mess with it over the years including him and myself,I tried new after they were slipping worked fine for about 100 miles now they grab and will pull you into an intersection and impossible to shift gears.Same problem over and over again and constant adjustments, I'm going to tear it back down and do it right, thanks again
HuntingHarleys I dont think shops work on old school bikes, I know my father spent a lot of wasted money on clutches over the years and was never right, always slips or grabs with constant adjustments and it still does with again another set of new plates and clutches I installed myself, im not a Harley mechanic but common sense tells me its not right and cant wait to tear it down to start over, thanks again!
Troy Young there was a time when these "old bikes" were new and what I have found is that it is not that they don't know how, they simply won't bother to do it right or the work they charge for. I have had too many old school mechanic's do the same thing to the bikes I have brought them that know better. There are times when I have a lot more bikes then I can possible work on myself
Thank you for this video. I could not understand what the service manual said about assembling the pressure plate separately and your video saved me a big headache.
Jesus your condescending , I thought it was just when you were trying to make a point . great channel in many ways . real genuine . I'm grateful for it . thank you .
Todd, A BIG THANKS to you & your very patient camera operator for making this informative video. I came here searching how install a kicker on a 4 speed. I learned much more. The specialized tools ( you ) used & the meticulous attention needed for assembly of the clutches components goes a long ways, Insuring longevity for entire bike & the joy of riding vs. scratching our heads while broke down.
Todd, than you so much for making this video. It's helping me so much. I love that you took your time to explain each and every step of the process. Now, if I can only get my hands on a tool that will help me unscrew my compensating sprocket nut...
OMG. I admire your patience- you are an awesome mechanic!! I could just sit and praise you!!! I tried JUST to adjust the cable on a 2005 fatboy, 15 anniv. and I couldn't get the slack back out of the clutch cable(barnet type) Nightmare!!!! I adjusted it for 8 hrs, after adjusting the clutch adjusting nut in the primary . I got up-threw the wrenches across the garage, and took a Xanax!! Never again!!!
Thanks for the video. I'm building a '75 from a literal basket case (more parts were missing than were in the baskets) and had to replace the whole clutch assembly. I'm learning as I go, and found this to be the best walk through for putting my clutch in. Much appreciated!
Thank You for this video, The compensator was knocking away and my clutch was slipping on my old shovel,I followed your instructions on the clutch part and installed a new compensator.My bike runs awesome and you saved me the time and the $$$$ the bike shop shop would have charged me !!
Great stuff man! Same way I was taught to rebuild a 4 speed basket when I was a kid.I rebuilt my Dads British Vincent Black Shadow clutch recently.You can,t have human skin contact with the clutch plates cause the oil in your skin contaminates the plates! I was told to wear silk gloves,so thats what I did.That bikes Clutch works a treat now.Thanks again Todd.Great viewing!
Nice work Todd. I don't own a 4 speed but my 2002 Night Train is on it's second OBP. The first was a 3" Ultima drag style but I didn't really dig the look of the support plate so I bought a 2" BDL with 32 ball bearing lock up clutch, a spare new dry clutch, another pressure plate set up and 4 extra adjustment screws. You hit the nail on the head with oxidation, rust and maintenance, especially when you ride through New England winters soaking up that sand and salt. Any new or different primary I've ever touched, I always find they are all different and I perfect it after install, pull apart, repeat, perfect, pull apart one more time, now it's perfect lol but you master that set up on your bike eventually and apply elsewhere. Even if you don't get it right the first time, you do it right Todd, in the end, that's all that matter's.
Thank you for the video Todd. As a matter of fact, thank you for all the stuff you put on youtube. I'm learning a lot from them. Wish you were on the east coast!
Sporties need a shim behind the kicker gear so they don't "fall through" and slip while kicking. They can be shimmed using an early shock shim from inside a Hydra Glide shock, works perfect, saves the knees
Todd, I have to say...aside from all the hand washing, this is hands down the best video on youtube for doing a basic 4 speed clutch. Take it from a fellow greybeard, this video is no bullshit and straight forward. Great job and I'll recommend your videos to all the noobs that bug me for this stuff! Keep'em comin'!
thats mrharley2u glad you liked it. I got tired of all the wanabe mechanic's ripping people off telling them all the wrong shit about something so simple
"Todd's way"seem legit!!! Thankyou for takin the time to do this vid.... Learning the old stuff lot to learn ..... Lotta cats wouldn't take the time to explain it ... Real world shit right there , thanks again!
I was taught the reason it only had three studs is because it was not designed by the engineers to release all at once. It is supposed to wobble. The five stud was aftermarket and designed for drag racing purpose's back in the day. Not for correct disengagement. I'm using the same clutch plate's 38 years and several rebuilds and they look almost new. Always 3 stud clutch hub's and staggered stock style bearings. .
with a mousetrap, I like to just touch the release arm, but NO tension on it. You do NOT want tension on it. For a rocker clutch or other foot clutch, I like to leave a little play at the end.
Nice vid.. helped me where i needed.. have a 1973 FLH.. my father the original owner..just replaced the trans seal on main shaft on inner primary.. and replaced my rear sprocket..from a 23 to a 25 tooth.. dad was runnin a 24 and someone talked me into changing it.. UGH. same guy who talked me into changin my carb jets.. then wonder why my bike wont out run his '68 no more. with his rear geared trans..but i was stuck on where to take the measurements. on clutch hub distance.. '73 calls for the 1 1/32" and i was tryin to go to the outside face of plate..not inside.. which was where my mistake was.. runnin Barnett W/D 3 finger .. still original basket. When and if i ever do change it up it will be a 5 finger.. but wil prolly stay with Barnett.. W/D..
the set up seems off..to some.. but Godfather's /68 FLH with runnin doublee sparks...+.30 over.. and modified 3/4th gears still couldnt outrun it.. 24 engine sprocket..with a then 24 trnas ..and 51 on rear tire. runnin a Kehin off a '76 FLH. that was jetted ..165/80..the stock Mukuni? on the '73 just never would dial in and stay .so i am in rebuild mode..and tryin to keep engine itself stock as possible.. on the AMF monster..lol
Todd...I thought I knew damn near e erything on the shovel type clutches. Well I actually picked a few things up from this video! Long video, but well worth the extra time and time to get a beer in your breaks! Thanks
joseph m Aurit I have a lift, I don't like them. I prefer working where when I drop something (always happens) it stays close to my work area and I can FIND it. On a lift, it is always GONE GONE GONE. While there are a few old timer's who can do these just fine, there are many more, including shops, who even if they know how, improperly assemble and adjust clutches, it seems to me, on purpose. I made this for the guys who don't know.
+hugo ramirez sounds like your clutch plates are hanging up. If they are worn and don't move back and forth easily, you have this problem. Look for wear on the clutch basket too
A thought. I would want to use a small mesh kitchen strainer to rinse out small parts like the bearings. U could also take a drain strainer and put a handle on it with a spring clip to attach to the side of the parts cleaner .
I like this guy... no bullshit and straight up knowledge. Thanks brother and I subbed your channel. I just bought my first Harley.. '55 Panhead... super stoked on in. Started tearing it down and going threw it. Any advise?
get a good Harley manual and read it and if you can find it a factory rider's hand book. Some of the information will apply and some won't, but what you can use will be invaluable. Also, A copy of Easyrider's tech tips and tricks will really help you, a LOT. 55 Pan, hell of a good starter bike!
I got 2 '48 frames with the bike. Any idea what these are worth? I can send you some pics if you wouldnt mind taking a look and giving me an idea. I hate to sell them honestly but need $$ for parts. Thanks man.
I just don't know if the bike has been flashed. the ECU 2005 Softail Deuce. just wondering because if I flash it on my burn it out and a new one cost over $1,000.
Great Video! If I may make a suggestion. Save the original part for future generation and install a Rivera Pro Clutch. I installed one on my 76 FLH after a brake down about 5 years ago and I have never touch it since. This thing is great.
very informative,...ill ajust my pro clutch like you did,... Im tryin to get the chatter out of, when I pull the lever not chatter. it sounds like the hub and plate noise, you shown at the end (installing plates)
@@HuntingHarleys My clutch has been slipping a while and it's the first 5 stud clutch hub I'v ever used in 41 years. Never slipped befor that. I'm not implying it's the cluch hub's fault but there is a reason the engineers used three finger for like 40 some years and never switched to 5 that I know of. The clutch was not designed to release all at once on purpose. I just pulled off my clutch hub and first time sinse 2007, i thought it was not coming off. The whole time I was trying to get it off, I kept thinking about why you grease your tapered shaft...lol.. I last opened my primary and changed clutch hubs in 2007, when i opened it this time, I thought "someone broke into my primary and put a 5 finger clutch hub on here". This 5 finger almost looked brand new after all this time and my shovel is my only transportation. edit: everything looked within spec on the five finger till I discovered i could spin all the fingers.
after setting my pushrod for throw out bearing on my ratchet top then adjusting clutch cable Slack. I don't have enuff clutch to hold the back the bike, if I tighten clutch cable more to get clutch. then it's to tight and eats the adjuster screw.
coming, stay tuned. 5 finger's, I get mine from Eddie at Rolling Cycle 626 576 2567 Not sure where he has his made but I have never had a problem with them
Great video Todd. Any idea what would cause a 4 speed ratchet top to grind when releasing the clutch in first gear? All other gears shift fine and the grinding only happens occasionally. Thanks again for the great video.
Hi Todd, Great video! I'm working on my grandfathers 75FLH which has the original clutch in it. It started slipping when hot so I decided to take a look at it. I pulled it out, and the friction plates still have lots of material. Everything was a little oily, but not excessively so. The thing I'm confused about is that in your video you mention that the spring tension should be set to 31/32nds. I measured mine and it was set to 1 inch & 1/32. I looked it up in the factory manual and that is the setting they recommended back in the day. So I was just wondering why the change? Just experience? Or was the guidance from the MoCo updated. I'm trying to decide whether to replace the clutch pack or not. Thanks for the help.
The keyway stops it from spinning. It does NOT hold it on there. The taper and the clutch hub nut holds it on. Putting grease on a tapered press fit is absolutely wrong.
Todd, since you do so much hand washing during this video, does that mean you are against soaking new friction plates in oil? I run a dry belt primary and was going to soak the plates (because that's a popular belief) but now I'm reconsidering. What is your opinion?
thanks for the videos. very informative. I did a clutch in a 1980 police Harley. it was the original clutch. 80,000 miles.. the owner went for a ride down the street and back. and he had the biggest smile on his face. he was so happy to have the wind split his beard again. thanks Todd. for making a Harley Owners happy...
my way of giving back to everyone :)
I've been an automotive mechanic for many years, just started working on Harley's about 5 years ago and your videos have helped me with a lot of the the tips n tricks. I recently inherited my father in laws 85 fat bob 1340 with the 4 speed when he passed away in feb this year. I rode the bike 20 miles after he had it in storage for 3 years and out of no where the clutch started slipping at 1/4 throttle in 4th gear at 55 mph. This video really answered a lot of questions I had being the first 4 speed I ever touched. Thank You.
your welcome:)
My old '81 FXB has been sitting in my garage for 7 years and needs a bunch of TLC. Thanks for helping my put my head back in the game.
Thanks for the help my father died and left me a few bikes and this video really help on the Panhead. I'm glade someone is helping to keeping the " Legend " alive because Harley just lives on it but don't help at all.... Well they may tell you hey its time to buy a new bike yours is old. Thanks Again I Wish There Were More People Like You Out There.....
There is brother, his name is Keenan Tatro..... Tatro Machine
@@michaelmitchell5909 Pacific Mike is really good also.... There are also a lot of video's on you tube of guys working on shovelheads and they are dangerous.
I did a frame up restoration on an 81 Shovelhead,, it took a long time, but after watching this video the clutch install went smooth as silk. I got a lot of new parts, but ended up using most of my old OEM parts. I put a tamer into it at the time and it shifts great,, you can't even tell it's in gear unless you let the clutch out, its that smooth. I thank you for making this Todd,, it was a great help.
+2010Rocrat your welcome
I can't believe your using the 5 stud instead of the three stud hub. Harley designed it with three studs for a reason and it's not supposed to release evenly. it is supposed to ease into it. Everyone should be required to watch this video before assembling the clutch. You did a fabulous job of explaining this.
They put 3 studs to save money, no other reason
Todd is the greatest. I absolutely love his classic Harley videos. keep up the good work!!!!
I like the way you do your instructions I can tell you have spend decades doing what you do.
Thanks Brother for the great vid doing my first 4 speed clutch (early 84 softail) thats been sealed and over filled and slipping like a biotch and this just makes it so easy from one rider to another much respect! Keep the shinny side up and keep putting these over priced yuppy rapers in their place some forget these bikes where worked on and built in peoples garages for decades they have their quirks but they definitely are a wrencher's bike!
Todd, that was painfully excellent! Between the 9/16 and 1/2 sockets and clean hands you reminded me why I made it a 3hr, just to pay attention. (Takes twice most times). I'm rebuilding my father in laws 80 Fl, he passed and left it for her. "Old school". I had it running, rode it with my wife. Busted tab in dry belt clutch, I think. Please keep posting! I live in VA, I know a little, but good dudes that think an EVO is still the knew motor...priceless! Thank you for making the manual make sense! I think you'd like this bike!
I cant tell you how much I appreciate your videos. I have the manuals but the little hints and tips you give and just the visual of it helps Tremendously!~ Thanks again for taking your time to show us first timers.
I want to say this is a great video, working on my dads 52 that was passed on to me and the clutches have been a BIG nightmare and NO one knows how to work on them, I've asked many and dad has had several people mess with it over the years including him and myself,I tried new after they were slipping worked fine for about 100 miles now they grab and will pull you into an intersection and impossible to shift gears.Same problem over and over again and constant adjustments, I'm going to tear it back down and do it right, thanks again
your most welcome. It is amazing to me how many "shops" simply don't know the basic's of 4 speeds. That is why I made this video.
HuntingHarleys I dont think shops work on old school bikes, I know my father spent a lot of wasted money on clutches over the years and was never right, always slips or grabs with constant adjustments and it still does with again another set of new plates and clutches I installed myself, im not a Harley mechanic but common sense tells me its not right and cant wait to tear it down to start over, thanks again!
Troy Young there was a time when these "old bikes" were new and what I have found is that it is not that they don't know how, they simply won't bother to do it right or the work they charge for. I have had too many old school mechanic's do the same thing to the bikes I have brought them that know better. There are times when I have a lot more bikes then I can possible work on myself
Thank you for this video. I could not understand what the service manual said about assembling the pressure plate separately and your video saved me a big headache.
Don't mean to be fussy but...it's called a key and the key-way is the groove it sits in on the shaft.....
Jesus your condescending , I thought it was just when you were trying to make a point . great channel in many ways . real genuine . I'm grateful for it . thank you .
I will make more "how I do things" videos in the future
Best saying ever....."Like a little cheese with that Wine?"
Great steps from start to end.
i like how he answers questions in advanced to quiet all the complainers. would love to have all his motorcycle knowledge i bet its endless
Todd, A BIG THANKS to you & your very patient camera operator for making this informative video.
I came here searching how install a kicker on a 4 speed. I learned much more. The specialized tools ( you ) used & the meticulous attention needed for assembly of the clutches components goes a long ways, Insuring longevity for entire bike & the joy of riding vs. scratching our heads while broke down.
glad to help
Todd, than you so much for making this video. It's helping me so much. I love that you took your time to explain each and every step of the process.
Now, if I can only get my hands on a tool that will help me unscrew my compensating sprocket nut...
your welcome
OMG. I admire your patience- you are an awesome mechanic!! I could just sit and praise you!!! I tried JUST to adjust the cable on a 2005 fatboy, 15 anniv. and I couldn't get the slack back out of the clutch cable(barnet type) Nightmare!!!! I adjusted it for 8 hrs, after adjusting the clutch adjusting nut in the primary . I got up-threw the wrenches across the garage, and took a Xanax!! Never again!!!
Thanks for the video. I'm building a '75 from a literal basket case (more parts were missing than were in the baskets) and had to replace the whole clutch assembly. I'm learning as I go, and found this to be the best walk through for putting my clutch in. Much appreciated!
your welcome :)
Thank You for this video, The compensator was knocking away and my clutch was slipping on my old shovel,I followed your instructions on the clutch part and installed a new compensator.My bike runs awesome and you saved me the time and the $$$$ the bike shop shop would have charged me !!
Brad Denning and most likely they would have done it wrong. Seen that too many times, thus this video
Great stuff man! Same way I was taught to rebuild a 4 speed basket when I was a kid.I rebuilt my Dads British Vincent Black Shadow clutch recently.You can,t have human skin contact with the clutch plates cause the oil in your skin contaminates the plates! I was told to wear silk gloves,so thats what I did.That bikes Clutch works a treat now.Thanks again Todd.Great viewing!
Thanks for all these videos - really appreciate the time you take to explain everything
knowledge + science = one hell of a Harley....great videos
Nice work Todd. I don't own a 4 speed but my 2002 Night Train is on it's second OBP. The first was a 3" Ultima drag style but I didn't really dig the look of the support plate so I bought a 2" BDL with 32 ball bearing lock up clutch, a spare new dry clutch, another pressure plate set up and 4 extra adjustment screws. You hit the nail on the head with oxidation, rust and maintenance, especially when you ride through New England winters soaking up that sand and salt. Any new or different primary I've ever touched, I always find they are all different and I perfect it after install, pull apart, repeat, perfect, pull apart one more time, now it's perfect lol but you master that set up on your bike eventually and apply elsewhere. Even if you don't get it right the first time, you do it right Todd, in the end, that's all that matter's.
Hey thanks for your time man, i could watch vids like this all day.
Cheers
a lot of great tips, there were a few things I was unsure about and you not only showed how, but explained why, thanks for the brownies, Cheers!
glad to help
Thank you for the video Todd. As a matter of fact, thank you for all the stuff you put on youtube. I'm learning a lot from them. Wish you were on the east coast!
glad to help
Thanks for the quick response. My two sons just bought sportsters and I need to get my bike back online. Appreciate the information.
Sporties need a shim behind the kicker gear so they don't "fall through" and slip while kicking. They can be shimmed using an early shock shim from inside a Hydra Glide shock, works perfect, saves the knees
best cooking show EVER !! Thanks,take it easy
@Coleman Ludlow does not exist
Thanks Todd for sharing your wealth of knowledge. It's much appreciated. Camera Lady, thank you also. Bear your a natural.
I don't even own a Harley but it was very interesting to watch your video...Thanks.
Best four speed video ever thanx Tom!
Todd, I have to say...aside from all the hand washing, this is hands down the best video on youtube for doing a basic 4 speed clutch. Take it from a fellow greybeard, this video is no bullshit and straight forward. Great job and I'll recommend your videos to all the noobs that bug me for this stuff! Keep'em comin'!
thats mrharley2u glad you liked it. I got tired of all the wanabe mechanic's ripping people off telling them all the wrong shit about something so simple
I found a new invention since my last comment...they are called snap ring pliers :)
I'm going to take my time and watch this thoroughly tonight. I love all your vids.
Excellent video Todd. It set me up for some work I need to do later this week. Thanks man.
I bet you wish you still had all these bikes and parts. Look at the stack of fenders. Crazy.
"Todd's way"seem legit!!! Thankyou for takin the time to do this vid.... Learning the old stuff lot to learn ..... Lotta cats wouldn't take the time to explain it ... Real world shit right there , thanks again!
happy to help
"Well how the fuck does that work?" LMAO! Too funny.
I was taught the reason it only had three studs is because it was not designed by the engineers to release all at once. It is supposed to wobble. The five stud was aftermarket and designed for drag racing purpose's back in the day. Not for correct disengagement. I'm using the same clutch plate's 38 years and several rebuilds and they look almost new. Always 3 stud clutch hub's and staggered stock style bearings.
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glad you enjoyed it, as I can, I will make more vids like this one.
Next time you probably shouldn't use Paula Dean's name.
Joke HEAR!
with a mousetrap, I like to just touch the release arm, but NO tension on it. You do NOT want tension on it. For a rocker clutch or other foot clutch, I like to leave a little play at the end.
Exactly what I needed to see. Thanks Todd!!
Nice vid.. helped me where i needed.. have a 1973 FLH.. my father the original owner..just replaced the trans seal on main shaft on inner primary.. and replaced my rear sprocket..from a 23 to a 25 tooth.. dad was runnin a 24 and someone talked me into changing it.. UGH. same guy who talked me into changin my carb jets.. then wonder why my bike wont out run his '68 no more. with his rear geared trans..but i was stuck on where to take the measurements. on clutch hub distance.. '73 calls for the 1 1/32" and i was tryin to go to the outside face of plate..not inside.. which was where my mistake was.. runnin Barnett W/D 3 finger .. still original basket. When and if i ever do change it up it will be a 5 finger.. but wil prolly stay with Barnett.. W/D..
the set up seems off..to some.. but Godfather's /68 FLH with runnin doublee sparks...+.30 over.. and modified 3/4th gears still couldnt outrun it.. 24 engine sprocket..with a then 24 trnas ..and 51 on rear tire. runnin a Kehin off a '76 FLH. that was jetted ..165/80..the stock Mukuni? on the '73 just never would dial in and stay .so i am in rebuild mode..and tryin to keep engine itself stock as possible.. on the AMF monster..lol
nice bench grinder, i have the same one. my dad use to say they made that switch so you could push it "off" with a bloody stump!
Great video Todd, very helpful. Thanks for posting!
When ya put the crank sprocket, pri chain and hub on together we all cheered. Ha ha hee lol !
There is no need what so ever for those long bearings. I believe in the stock style completely. There is good reason for them.
Sure do love the shovelhead compensator opposed to that pan one with the special tool.
PS @HuntingHarleys LOVE watching the videos. They're great!! Keep um comin'
Great video, Thanks.
Todd...I thought I knew damn near e erything on the shovel type clutches. Well I actually picked a few things up from this video! Long video, but well worth the extra time and time to get a beer in your breaks! Thanks
glad you enjoyed it
Dude, your videos are awesome. Sometimes I just need to see toods way so i dont have to do no thinking.
Thanks for the vid dude. The most priceless item I saw was that Bull Dog. End of story.
Great video. Thanks for taking the time!
looks like had to much to drink im not one to work on the ground i was doing this 71
joseph m Aurit I have a lift, I don't like them. I prefer working where when I drop something (always happens) it stays close to my work area and I can FIND it. On a lift, it is always GONE GONE GONE. While there are a few old timer's who can do these just fine, there are many more, including shops, who even if they know how, improperly assemble and adjust clutches, it seems to me, on purpose. I made this for the guys who don't know.
I really like your style of repairs. Todd's way is a lot like my way, simple really, Do it right the first time so you don't have to do it again!
Thanks for the video...very informative....I hope you were able to keep a shop & some of the bikes...you're a Phoenix, hope you'll find a way.
+Elizabeth Mahoney I've moved next door. Still have 8 OP Knuckles and one Pan / VL bob, the rest have gone. Thanks for the positive vibes
+hugo ramirez sounds like your clutch plates are hanging up. If they are worn and don't move back and forth easily, you have this problem. Look for wear on the clutch basket too
Great info and skills!!
Looks like you have a very nice work shop/parts depot..............
key way is the slot in the shaft where the key goes
you and tatromachine should do a repair-off
A thought. I would want to use a small mesh kitchen strainer to rinse out small parts like the bearings. U could also take a drain strainer and put a handle on it with a spring clip to attach to the side of the parts cleaner .
I actually have one, but for some reason the strainer I now have no longer fits my washer unit
We always broke the glaze on those fiber plates on the concrete floor clean them with some white gas and scrub them on the floor break the glaze
Scotch Brite wheel, works far better
aint no secrete anymore lol . thanks for the informitive video
I like this guy... no bullshit and straight up knowledge. Thanks brother and I subbed your channel. I just bought my first Harley.. '55 Panhead... super stoked on in. Started tearing it down and going threw it. Any advise?
get a good Harley manual and read it and if you can find it a factory rider's hand book. Some of the information will apply and some won't, but what you can use will be invaluable. Also, A copy of Easyrider's tech tips and tricks will really help you, a LOT. 55 Pan, hell of a good starter bike!
I got 2 '48 frames with the bike. Any idea what these are worth? I can send you some pics if you wouldnt mind taking a look and giving me an idea. I hate to sell them honestly but need $$ for parts. Thanks man.
Jason Gibbs send me an e-mail, huntingharleys@gmail.com
Will do, thanks man.
Jason Gibbs veg
Great video!!! Thanks for sharing!!!!
This was great thank you
+RusW0lverine in time I will be doing trans and engine videos
thank you for this video!
really good job !! congratulations .
thanks!
I just don't know if the bike has been flashed. the ECU 2005 Softail Deuce. just wondering because if I flash it on my burn it out and a new one cost over $1,000.
Great Video! If I may make a suggestion. Save the original part for future generation and install a Rivera Pro Clutch. I installed one on my 76 FLH after a brake down about 5 years ago and I have never touch it since. This thing is great.
Pete4875 those are fairly maintenance free, but they are also either "on" or "off" and hard to feather. I prefer the feel of the original clutch.
Great video learned a lot as always. Thanks
Yes, that is one name for it. There are always more then one name for the same object
You should also stagger the plates to separate the ( little balls )you call them so they don,t hit each other .Great video .
very informative,...ill ajust my pro clutch like you did,... Im tryin to get the chatter out of, when I pull the lever not chatter. it sounds like the hub and plate noise, you shown at the end (installing plates)
Amazing video... I learned a lot... Thank you...
Thanks i have never done one but.. with this video.. it makes it look good.. tell the wife she did good lol
Cool dude! Thanks for posting this!
I plan on that in time
I see the green bug is coming along just fine.
That clutch was not designed to release all at once. It wobbles by design. that is why they used three studs and that is why 5 stud clutch's drag.
The 3 stud was a piss poor design is all
@@HuntingHarleys My clutch has been slipping a while and it's the first 5 stud clutch hub I'v ever used in 41 years. Never slipped befor that. I'm not implying it's the cluch hub's fault but there is a reason the engineers used three finger for like 40 some years and never switched to 5 that I know of. The clutch was not designed to release all at once on purpose. I just pulled off my clutch hub and first time sinse 2007, i thought it was not coming off. The whole time I was trying to get it off, I kept thinking about why you grease your tapered shaft...lol.. I last opened my primary and changed clutch hubs in 2007, when i opened it this time, I thought "someone broke into my primary and put a 5 finger clutch hub on here". This 5 finger almost looked brand new after all this time and my shovel is my only transportation. edit: everything looked within spec on the five finger till I discovered i could spin all the fingers.
after setting my pushrod for throw out bearing on my ratchet top then adjusting clutch cable Slack. I don't have enuff clutch to hold the back the bike, if I tighten clutch cable more to get clutch. then it's to tight and eats the adjuster screw.
same camera type we use on all of them
Thanks Todd. Much appreciated!
OMG look at these nice bikes
Beautiful pit bull
Would also love to see a rocker clutch adjustment video hint , hint.
coming, stay tuned. 5 finger's, I get mine from Eddie at Rolling Cycle 626 576 2567 Not sure where he has his made but I have never had a problem with them
How are those four-speed, five-stud, brownies anyhow? The Galloping Gourmet ain't got nothing on this kitchen!
Great video Todd. Any idea what would cause a 4 speed ratchet top to grind when releasing the clutch in first gear? All other gears shift fine and the grinding only happens occasionally. Thanks again for the great video.
generally, that is clutch chatter. Comes from a worn out clutch and clutch hub
just want to say thanks, for the great videos you produce. there really helpful.
your most welcome
Hi do you have any videos for rebuilding the clutch on a 68 XLH 900 Sportster? Or xlch? Thank you
Hi Todd, Great video! I'm working on my grandfathers 75FLH which has the original clutch in it. It started slipping when hot so I decided to take a look at it. I pulled it out, and the friction plates still have lots of material. Everything was a little oily, but not excessively so. The thing I'm confused about is that in your video you mention that the spring tension should be set to 31/32nds. I measured mine and it was set to 1 inch & 1/32. I looked it up in the factory manual and that is the setting they recommended back in the day. So I was just wondering why the change? Just experience? Or was the guidance from the MoCo updated. I'm trying to decide whether to replace the clutch pack or not. Thanks for the help.
clean the clutch pack, regrease as shown in the video and adjust as I show in the video. The adjustment here is from experience.
I love the 56-57 Pan......... Dano
Bug should be running this weekend
The keyway stops it from spinning. It does NOT hold it on there. The taper and the clutch hub nut holds it on. Putting grease on a tapered press fit is absolutely wrong.
Todd, since you do so much hand washing during this video, does that mean you are against soaking new friction plates in oil? I run a dry belt primary and was going to soak the plates (because that's a popular belief) but now I'm reconsidering. What is your opinion?
D plates are a DRY clutch, not a run in oil clutch. Same principle as your brake shoes , they don't work well coated in oil either