Very good video thanks , I was wondering what the block temp was up near the top of the engine after an hours heating ? , I have been using Coolant heaters , now having to buy my 3rd one , the heater elements burn out on the cheap ones around on ebay from CZ , going to try another design from China this time. After 20 mins with a 2 KW coolant heater the head temp is 40 C .
Sorry, I couldn't say how the temperature change impacted the upper part of the engine. My main purpose was to heat and thin out the oil so that it would flow better and provide improved cold start lubrication.
@@JRsGarage I ordered one of these pads , I plugged it in to test it and smoke came off the backing tape , thinking that it might be too hot I took this Vid , it goes up to 220 C then turns off. Seems high to me for a sump heater .ua-cam.com/video/ypNI6nWrR7M/v-deo.html
@@bedebill Hi, I've tested my 120w heater and just don't buy a too high wattage one ,250w would be ok. Even 120w is better than nothing ( bought just to try )
Sorry I never saw this port or I would have replied sooner. I don't think they are meant to operate without being stuck to something... The backing tape would of course be removed when it's installed.
OK JR's Garage nice pad but instead of loosing temperature how expensive is to put an inch of insulating wool between plastic cover and sump? Oil thru the steel pan is getting outside temperature directly. Russians are blocking each air vent in front of the bonnet and insulate coolant pipes to get heat as soon as possible. Also engine bottom tray is preventing from getting snow pushed under the car bonnet. If you have very weak battery try to burn anything to heat up oil sump before you crank. Heat up sump... later heat up inlet manifold (nice old ones here made of alloy so you could put flame under it before cranking. You can also try to disconnect air pipe from the filter box and give some flame (hot air to the engine when starting). My Campervan starts better below 0oC than in between 0-10oC bcs below +2 my flame candle is starting. Old Russian tanks T-34 where started on -35C using flame candle made of steel wire?&cloth soaked in petrol. Lighted it will warm you air intake and help to start.
There is no plastic cover on the bottom of the MG C. The electric heater was very cheap and easy to install. Easy to plug in and use instead of starting a fire to warm the engine.
@@JRsGarage yea i think id want 1 bc last winter here in AK we've seen negative 30 for at least 3 months december january and febuary for a short while in march to
I only added a bead of oil resistant high temp RTV. It is made for engine applications. There was no burning/smoking. There might have been a slight smell the first time the heater was up to operating temps but I can't recall it seeming abnormal.
20w50 is the specification from MG. I want the same level of lubricant protection but I'm just looking to improve very cold start flow, which the heater accomplished.
@@JRsGarage Could use a 10w-50 or 5w-50. It'll be way more expensive though as it would have to be a either pure natural gas made oil or a blend. Regular dyno can't hit both those viscosities and the 50w flash point.
@@JRsGarage moved from Germany to Florida? Mind if I ask what you do that's quite the move :) ( I also live in Florida but still want to reduce cold start wear on my weekend warrior race car lol )
Its a good idea to install a oil pan heater. I use it every time its under 10 degrees celsius.
Since I now live in Florida. I no longer have this problem. 😄
Mate. This video was so helpful. The addition of the pressure gages made it really clear. Thanks
Thanks, my pleasure.
Leave it plugged in all night. Nice work.
You could do that.
Very good video thanks , I was wondering what the block temp was up near the top of the engine after an hours heating ? , I have been using Coolant heaters , now having to buy my 3rd one , the heater elements burn out on the cheap ones around on ebay from CZ , going to try another design from China this time. After 20 mins with a 2 KW coolant heater the head temp is 40 C .
Sorry, I couldn't say how the temperature change impacted the upper part of the engine. My main purpose was to heat and thin out the oil so that it would flow better and provide improved cold start lubrication.
@@JRsGarage I ordered one of these pads , I plugged it in to test it and smoke came off the backing tape , thinking that it might be too hot I took this Vid , it goes up to 220 C then turns off. Seems high to me for a sump heater .ua-cam.com/video/ypNI6nWrR7M/v-deo.html
@@bedebill Hi, I've tested my 120w heater and just don't buy a too high wattage one ,250w would be ok.
Even 120w is better than nothing ( bought just to try )
Sorry I never saw this port or I would have replied sooner. I don't think they are meant to operate without being stuck to something... The backing tape would of course be removed when it's installed.
OK
JR's Garage nice pad but instead of loosing temperature how expensive is to put an inch of insulating wool between plastic cover and sump? Oil thru the steel pan is getting outside temperature directly. Russians are blocking each air vent in front of the bonnet and insulate coolant pipes to get heat as soon as possible. Also engine bottom tray is preventing from getting snow pushed under the car bonnet. If you have very weak battery try to burn anything to heat up oil sump before you crank. Heat up sump... later heat up inlet manifold (nice old ones here made of alloy so you could put flame under it before cranking. You can also try to disconnect air pipe from the filter box and give some flame (hot air to the engine when starting). My Campervan starts better below 0oC than in between 0-10oC bcs below +2 my flame candle is starting. Old Russian tanks T-34 where started on -35C using flame candle made of steel wire?&cloth soaked in petrol. Lighted it will warm you air intake and help to start.
There is no plastic cover on the bottom of the MG C. The electric heater was very cheap and easy to install. Easy to plug in and use instead of starting a fire to warm the engine.
Think ima put 1 of theze on my 2017 arctic cat alterra 400
They work quite well.
@@JRsGarage yea i think id want 1 bc last winter here in AK we've seen negative 30 for at least 3 months december january and febuary for a short while in march to
That's cold.
Autobahn! 😍👍
Did you have any problems with it burning or smoking? When you added the mixture to help bond
I only added a bead of oil resistant high temp RTV. It is made for engine applications. There was no burning/smoking. There might have been a slight smell the first time the heater was up to operating temps but I can't recall it seeming abnormal.
The power of the heating pads needs to be adapted to the oil you have in the engine. You should use 15-25Watts/liter of oil.
150w heater should be right in that range for the MGC. Thanks for the tip.
gibts die auch mit EU Stecker?
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why not just use a lighter weight oil? 20w 50 seems too thick try 10w30 or 10w40 see if it changes
20w50 is the specification from MG. I want the same level of lubricant protection but I'm just looking to improve very cold start flow, which the heater accomplished.
@@JRsGarage Could use a 10w-50 or 5w-50. It'll be way more expensive though as it would have to be a either pure natural gas made oil or a blend. Regular dyno can't hit both those viscosities and the 50w flash point.
I live in Florida now anyway, so this is no longer a problem.
@@JRsGarage moved from Germany to Florida? Mind if I ask what you do that's quite the move :) ( I also live in Florida but still want to reduce cold start wear on my weekend warrior race car lol )
Air Force for 22+ years.