Ironically, you may notice a few frame drops in this particular video. It doesn't have anything to do with the Cam Link Pro. I'm currently chasing down the issue, but there was no way to fix it for this video. Hope you enjoyed regardless!!
EposVox, would the Cam Link Pro be better than the 4K 60S+ ? I just bought the 4K 60S+, but cannot get smooth, clear video from it in OBS. Would the Cam Link Pro be better with my Nikon camera, with less headaches ?
@EposVox Also, can it do 4K HDR at 24 or 30 FPS ? I'm torn between this, and 4K60 S+ which I am consider returning. It's now in OBS, and I don't know if it's cause my 10400, and RTX 2060, cant handle the feed, or whether the 4K 60S+ is too slow over the cables they provide or my own.
A video on overhead filming would be appreciated. Especially with regards to lens recommendations and tricks for reducing glare. It's so important for miniature painting
This is rad! FYI (anyone curious about multiple inputs), If you nest your video input sources into their own scene, then use THAT scene in your main scenes, you're then able to change your input source without changing your scene. Pair it with the Lua Source toggle script and it's a really consistent and reliable solution. Another rad tip is to duplicate that Input Sources scene, call the first "A" and the new duplicate "B". Put both of these scenes into a new scene called "A-B Switcher", then use THAT scene in your main scenes. Then you can setup a hotkey to swap between your current A and current B inputs. Sorta like how in some games you can select any weapon directly, but also have a dedicated "switch to previous" kind of function. This is just some of the rad things you can do in OBS with nested inputs, and when paired with a foot controller... it's a really empowering production workflow, especially if you're hands are busy opening pokemon cards, or holding a gamepad (or Steam Controller ;)).
This is kind of what I do, with scenes acting as « slots », which are then themselves included in other scenes (with the layout on top etc). Each input is wrapped in a scene, and all « input scenes » are on top of another in a « slot scene ». I then use UPDeck on an iPad to change their visibility / order, same as one would on a stream deck with the LUA script I guess.
@@enregistreur Wow, that's a workflow I've never really thought of before! In fact, now that I'm thinking about it, I can't really stop thinking about it... I really appreciate you sharing this creative approach, dude. I'm gonna experiment and see if this kind of concept could improve my current setup in some capacity. Do you happen to have any videos/vods of this in action that you'd be willing to share?
@@TheRykerInitiative You're welcome! As as matter of fact, I got inspired by the new Atem Mini Extreme, that features a "select bus" for the included SuperSource. As I use OBS Ninja (which I highly recommend, it's fun to play with) to include multiple remote guests in my streams, when I saw the demo of the Atem Mini Extreme, I immediately though I NEED THAT, but for virtual cameras. :D
i just turn sources off or on with the stream deck to do multi cam, then you dont have to change scenes , just stack your cams. currently looking for this cant find it anywhere.
I have the Cam Link Pro and I love it. I don't make use of all the inputs yet, but to have the room to just keep adding HDMI devices is what makes me sleep soundly at night. It just makes sense to have more than one input for a content creator, and adding more Cam Links over USB just doesn't make sense if this exists!
I wasn't particularly sure if the Cam Link Pro was going to be a worthwhile switch from the Magewell - then you hit us with that input switching. That's EXACTLY what I was hoping for in a multi-input capture card like this. Elgato continues to impress!
This is perfect timing. I am about to enter the two-PC system world, and was planning on using 3 4K60 Pro. Now I only need the one I have and this new card as I have two cameras that are only 4K 30 FPS out, and a GoPro for overhead. Excellent. Wonder when it will be out (seems in 2 weeks here).
My Cam Link 4K that is plugged into the back of my PC overheats during long live streams, unless I position a USB fan above it. Some of the other solutions needed loud fans to cool the cards. This looks like it has air vents but no fan. Does it get hot over longer recording sessions, with multiple cams live?
I would love to see a comparison to the black magic card. I have that black magic card and an Intel system and I wonder if you get the same frame drop issues there? Looking to bring retro consoles as well as virtually anything else through the quad HDMI and would love the epos vox analysis
Oooooh, my ever important Pet Cam may be getting an upgrade! Currently my GH5 is feeding into an old Razer Ripsaw that is clunky and can't accept a 4k input. This may have to join my 4K60 Pro very soon.
I'm looking forward to the teleprompter video! A lot of the small ones you see on amazon use phone only, which doesn't help if you want to control it on your PC (unless you use software to make your phone another display, which is it's own thing lol). There was this one product I saw by Glide Gear called the TMP-WB Solo which latches onto an existing monitor or laptop and bounces a portion of the screen to the prompter above it, but I think it was discontinued sadly. Edit: I found the 'ProPrompter Desktop,' which is great, but is also about the price of an Xbox Series X lol. Feels a bit much for a small 70/30 beam splitter glass, a small mirror, and a few pieces of aluminum but that's coming from someone who's being very cheap about it haha
DSLR Video Shooter had a great vid on using an external camera monitor as a screen for the teleprompter with his computer. He even had a one where the teleprompter also showed the people he was video calling with for eye contact
@@bhgemini I just watched the video and that was a spectacular idea! Especially with camera monitors that have HDMI passthrough to go into a cam link. Very clever! Thanks for sharing :)
@@JamesDavisMakes you're very welcome James. I ordered a monitor to use for this so will be trying to out myself soon. Also ordered the Cam Link Pro so I'll see what I can do with both. I had the tiny Parrot one and a larger homemade one and agreed with you 100%
Does this work more like a camlink or a capture card? Specifically, can the cameras be used in more than one program at a time? I run two instances of OBS and I can have my Avermedia capture card as a source on both, but I can't have my CamLink 4k, so instead I end up having to do virtual camera from one OBS instance over to the other one which isn't ideal.
Does it support 10 bit capture? Really want to output log for good dynamic range on my S1H and S5. The Rec709 profiles clip way too early for my taste and in 8 bit V-Log breaks apart.
Ive been watching your content to get my stream up and running and I thank you for all your input! Also I bought this Camlink Pro as soon as I saw this vid!
I just bought the Cam Link Pro. Having Cam Link 4K before I bought a second Cam Link 4K but was having a nightmare where one of the video feeds would just freeze randomly. Spent ages trying to troubleshoot it thinking it was related to AMD Zen USB issues. Finally bit the bullet and got the Cam Link Pro and it has been rock solid. Trying to have 2 of the Cam Link 4Ks on USB just isn't reliable even when on separate USB root hubs in the motherboard. PCIE FTW. Now I just need to sell my 'Cam Cam Link' previous setup :)
If we primarily use game capture hd60s and camlink and want to add some additional sources, would this be a good solution? Sometimes we play on the couch (with hd60s pass through) but have an hdmi running from the pc to the tv to show the game if needed.
I'm frustrated with the 4K 60S+. Anyone else having difficulties getting smooth video through that ? After this video, I am thinking of returning the 4K 60S+, and saving myself some headaches ? Should I get the Cam Link Pro, or the Elgato 4K 60 Pro MK. 2 ?
This looks amazing, but I have one important question. Does this card function with elgato's Game Capture HD software, even tho it calls itself a cam link instead of a game capture card? When I'm not streaming or using OBS, that is what i play my switch through. I love being able to power my switch on and open game capture hd to just play my switch on my desktop. When I stream I play off of a monitoring window of my capture, but I'd like to not have to open obs to just play my switch I didnt even hear about this when it launched lol, just finding out as I was checking the cam link prices on amazon just now. This is something i've been wanting for years. There have been alot of multi input cards on the market for years, but elgato just straight up has the best software and integrations for streaming. I may replace my HD60 pro card with this.
With how much I despise Elgato I will give them credit on this one for being much cheaper than other options. Even though I still believe the original cam link price was absurd for a tiny usb stick and how Elgato capture software is still awful after nearly 10 years still
@EposVox, I think you mentioned using this to connect mobile phones as cameras. What method would you use to connect to the Cam Link Pro? I currently have one of my old phones connected, but it requires a USB connection with the Droidcam software and client. Do I just need to change the cable to a mini USB to HDMI one?
I have a Question, I'm doing this but with 2 Cam Link 4K for each cameras. Would the Cam Link Pro be a much more simpler solution? I only ask because I only have 2 camera's and the Pro has 4 inputs. Would it be simpler for me to get the Cam Link Pro to do the same thing as what I'm trying to Do with my Cam Link 4K?
So I just bought this now, more than a year later, for 150€ (150$ since covnersion is 1:1 at this point)... after your video I am thinking it's an amazing deal! HOWEVER. I am just waiting for a 4k60, 1440p120 capture card. Sadly not even magewell nor decklink support that, I think? As you say, if they used PCIe 3.0 or 4.0 it would be enough...
Definitely something I'll be on the lookout once my new rig is complete (waiting for GPU and CPU), for now I'll have to make do with the Feelworld Livepro as my current rig has no spare PCIe slots available. Maybe I miseed it in the video but does the multiview feature actually be output and viewed by the audience? If so, it becomes a real must have when compared to the ATEM Mini for my purposes when filming or streaming model-making/painting how tos and commentaries.
Im wondering about the input lag when playing a console through the cam link pro, seeing as it does not have any pass through to connect to your monitor or TV, is the lag noticeable at all? Could you play games through it? The issue i have is that i have multiple game consoles that i stream game play from, i used to use a HDMI switcher connected to the consoles and inputting to elgato hd60plus, the issue is the ps5 does not like my splitter so now every time I change consoles I have to physically swap the HDMI cable going to the capture card, this has made cable management a nightmare coz i need easy access to the capture card, I was hoping the cam link pro would be my solution because of the multiple inputs but im concerned about the output or delay..
Hi EposVox , love your content. may I ask if the Elgato Cam Link Pro will it work in a thunderbolt 3 enclosure hooked into an intel nuc (with rtx3060ti) for capturing 4k off video camera's ?
I've got an ATEM mini pro ISO. Is there any software that will let me do ISO recording like that does? I want to use OBS as doing clever stuff just seems easier in that.
IDK if that's just the shutter speed was too high of the A cam that you used to film this video from the beginning, the capture card or the PC that couldn't handle it but there are a lot of dropped frames, I was into the video for 5 sec and already noticed a lot of dropped frames, wanted to double check that if it is my browser but everything seemed fine on my end, watching @1440p.
I just picked one up from elgato... which will be the best setup? Ryzen 3700x or 10700? Also, I want to use it to stream my son playing drums on youtube exactly like the Cam Link Pro demo video on the elgato site. Can anyone point me to a graphics overlay resource and/or tutorial for the cool graphics that were used in the video? Thanks in advance.
Looks like if you want to capture console gameplay (+ passthrough) you’d need a dedicated capture card plus this new cam link pro for multiple cameras + a motherboard (and PC setup) that can handle both + a streamdeck am I wrong? In this case what about plugging an ATEM Mini onto an AVerMedia Live Gamer Duo, wouldn’t this be cheaper and more capable (besides 4k resolution)? Thanks @eposvox for the good work, as always!
@@EposVox yes that’s why an ATEM Mini + AVerMedia Live Gamer Duo combo looks like the way to go at least for my case. Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my comments!
Thanks for this video! What about HDMI passthrough? If I wanted to connect two cameras and a console into OBS, can I still pass the console through to my TV?
I would like a review of the amazing Minolta X-370 you snuck into this vid... let's expand the channel focus to retro film photography equipment reviews... what is free time?
This looks amazing. Currently I'm running 2 USB capture cards and was going to get a 3rd, possible a single cam link ironically before I saw this which has got me considering this instead. I've got 1 question though and I'm wondering if your able to test it. Can the Cam Link Pro handle the signal being output from an OSSC? I play a lot of retro capture and my current capture cards handle the signal with no problem but I know some capture card really don't like it. Cheers for the video!
Cam link 4K, and the Pro, both work with any HDMI signal that’s within spec (1080p30/60, 1440p30/60, 4k30 and lower) If anything the Atem Mini supports less devices by not having 4K support.
@@EposVox I always had the issue where I needed a clean HDMI Signal. So, I can connect a Canon M50 to the HMDI Quad Card? Other than bandwidth, why would I purchase an Elgato HDMI Quad Card when I have an ATEM-Mini. Is the fact the card is connected to my motherboard while the ATEM-Mini USB-C?
That’s an issue no matter what capture device you use - the ATEM mini needs clean HDMI too, it can’t magically strip away your overlays on your camera feed. There isn’t really a reason to get the Cam Link Pro if you already have an ATEM mini
It’s a camera capture card and the majority of cameras anyone would use for streaming (or even filmmaking) won’t output 4:4:4 in the first place. Would be cool if it supported it, but non-issue IMO
@@EposVox thank you for the reply, I have a A7S2 outputting 10 bit 4:2:2 and I noticed better image quality on XRGB although the framerate seems like dropping. Not sure what it is, but since I'm not moving a lot it doesn't really happen ever. Any ideas?
Does it do software encoding or Hardware encoding ? Is there any latency ? Is the PIP scaleable of fix size ? How does the Capture card PCIe affect the bandwidth of GPU PCIe ?
@@EposVox Thank you reply back. Also, I dont care about the 4k60 output, But not having a 4K60 input means it cannot be used with Xbox and PS with 4K TV, even with a splitter. That's a deal breaker for me.
so if I want to game on the same PC with full PCIE 4x16 bandwidth, Z590/X570 or next gen main stream desktop platform would not be enough with that card because of only 16 PCIE lanes for devices like that, right? (4 lanes seem to be Nvme SSD only on most boards it seems)... So instead of Z690 with a 12700k or so I should wait what intel 12th gen HEDT has to offer I guess to get all the PCIE bandwidth, or is there another way around with a current Z590 board with full x16 bandwidth + that card, which would also work with a similar Z690 board?
@@EposVox thx that's good news. So it seems like my favourite Asus Strix Z590-E and -F gaming have deleted PCIE x4 Ports, while Maximus Hero (expensive) and Tuf (less USB ports) have them. Will check also other brands then when Z690 comes to have that upgrade path open. in general it seems like these newer higher end boards have more nvme drive slots and less dedicated pcie x4 slots
Is there a cable add-on that I can attach to my USB cable of my Logitech C922 camera? So I can plug the webcams into these HDMI slots of this cam link pro. Need help; not very tech savvy). If there is such an add-on cable; a link would be cool...
*Should* be able to plug the Logitech into one of your USBs and have it show up in OBS or whatever you're using. This card is for DSLRs, camcorders, etc. that don't output video over USB.
I mean, you can plug the HDMI output of the ATEM MINI PRO into the Cam Link Pro to add more HDMI inputs to it and then switch both on your computer and the ATEM but that might get messy.
Because then you're having to juggle switching inputs in OBS/etc. from the cam link pro AND switching inputs on the atem mini pro, routed to one of the cam link inputs. just a lot to keep up with
Has anyone tested this card for OSSC compatibility on it's different line multiplication modes? This card might be exactly what I need but really would like to know about OSSC compat. before spending 300+ on it just to find out it's a no go. Thanks in advance for any info!
Well, given 4 Camlinks on your PC can cause a lot of trouble among your USB devices, I’d say: Even if, for the most parts this is just 4 inputs, I’d use the heck out of this. To me, this card is simply not designed to be used for 4K capture. But then again, my stream setup would torture the heck out of my PC, if I did all of that in 4K. So I guess, I’m - for the most part - fine with 4:2:2 at 1080p60. Try to find 4K60 4:4:4 outputting cameras, let alone pay for them and you know why. I simply don’t view This CC as a 4K one. What’s slow, by the way, is the stream deck. I’ve struggling with it for the Year I have my stream deck now. 😅
I'mma just wait for an HDMI 2.1 capture card. I think this is super cool but I don't have much use for it. And I was gonna get the HD60S+ to hold me over but... That thing is $200 while the 4K60 Pro is $250. So I'm in this weird purgatory of "Don't wanna get the 4K60 Pro when HDMI 2.1 is surely around the corner" but also "Don't want to spend $200 on a HD60S+ when a 4K60 Pro can be had for just $50 more". Ugh.
I love it! Shout out to ElKitty for continuing to innovate and make high quality video production easier for the masses. 👐 Now, how do I justify purchasing this device? 🤔 So many possibilities.
I hate to break it to you but the 4k60pro has the annoying black screen issues 24/7 and elgatos 4k capture utility is actual garbage. The capture card scene reminds me of the car audio scene.
I have multiple 4k60 pros in use and have never had that issue, nor have I ever seen it mentioned as a common issue like the cam link. 4KCU is pretty bad as I say all the time
@@EposVox Hmm I've tried multiple different cables. I guess I could have a dud of a card that would be dissapointing. My workaround if unplugging and plugging back in the hdmi cable in the 4k60 pro.
@@EposVox hmm interesting only other thing I could easily think of would maybe be an issue with the capture card and first gen threadripper. It has persisted over multiple windows installs.
She’d probably realize that someone who made a career out of doing what they love should have the freedom to pack their studio full of whatever they want and when things get torn down for an AC installation things get messy for a bit
Yes. $360 being right around the price of 4k single input capture cards and nearly half the price of the cheapest competitor on the market for its capabilities - that is the definition of an "affordable product" within the context of what you're buying.
Ironically, you may notice a few frame drops in this particular video. It doesn't have anything to do with the Cam Link Pro. I'm currently chasing down the issue, but there was no way to fix it for this video. Hope you enjoyed regardless!!
Was about to ask that but then I realized you had the product in your hand LOL
When you just purchase two camlinks and an avermedia hd and then this drops 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ great video as always 👊
I would be curious about your workflow with regards to troubleshooting such a problem. I assume you aren't using Microsoft Answers
EposVox, would the Cam Link Pro be better than the 4K 60S+ ? I just bought the 4K 60S+, but cannot get smooth, clear video from it in OBS. Would the Cam Link Pro be better with my Nikon camera, with less headaches ?
@EposVox Also, can it do 4K HDR at 24 or 30 FPS ? I'm torn between this, and 4K60 S+ which I am consider returning. It's now in OBS, and I don't know if it's cause my 10400, and RTX 2060, cant handle the feed, or whether the 4K 60S+ is too slow over the cables they provide or my own.
A video on overhead filming would be appreciated. Especially with regards to lens recommendations and tricks for reducing glare. It's so important for miniature painting
This is rad!
FYI (anyone curious about multiple inputs), If you nest your video input sources into their own scene, then use THAT scene in your main scenes, you're then able to change your input source without changing your scene. Pair it with the Lua Source toggle script and it's a really consistent and reliable solution.
Another rad tip is to duplicate that Input Sources scene, call the first "A" and the new duplicate "B". Put both of these scenes into a new scene called "A-B Switcher", then use THAT scene in your main scenes. Then you can setup a hotkey to swap between your current A and current B inputs. Sorta like how in some games you can select any weapon directly, but also have a dedicated "switch to previous" kind of function.
This is just some of the rad things you can do in OBS with nested inputs, and when paired with a foot controller... it's a really empowering production workflow, especially if you're hands are busy opening pokemon cards, or holding a gamepad (or Steam Controller ;)).
This is kind of what I do, with scenes acting as « slots », which are then themselves included in other scenes (with the layout on top etc).
Each input is wrapped in a scene, and all « input scenes » are on top of another in a « slot scene ».
I then use UPDeck on an iPad to change their visibility / order, same as one would on a stream deck with the LUA script I guess.
@@enregistreur Wow, that's a workflow I've never really thought of before! In fact, now that I'm thinking about it, I can't really stop thinking about it...
I really appreciate you sharing this creative approach, dude. I'm gonna experiment and see if this kind of concept could improve my current setup in some capacity.
Do you happen to have any videos/vods of this in action that you'd be willing to share?
@@TheRykerInitiative You're welcome! As as matter of fact, I got inspired by the new Atem Mini Extreme, that features a "select bus" for the included SuperSource.
As I use OBS Ninja (which I highly recommend, it's fun to play with) to include multiple remote guests in my streams, when I saw the demo of the Atem Mini Extreme, I immediately though I NEED THAT, but for virtual cameras. :D
@@enregistreur Sweet! Thanks for the info and the heads up about OBS Ninja. I'm definitely going to check that out.
Take care!
Can it record individual feeds separately for later editing? (Missed it if you covered that).
Wondering the same thing! Did you ever find an answer to this?
i just turn sources off or on with the stream deck to do multi cam, then you dont have to change scenes , just stack your cams. currently looking for this cant find it anywhere.
I just bought an ATEM mini so ofcourse they release this now
Yeah. Sorta second guessing my GC573 purchase from January 2021 :-/
Same
I have the Cam Link Pro and I love it. I don't make use of all the inputs yet, but to have the room to just keep adding HDMI devices is what makes me sleep soundly at night. It just makes sense to have more than one input for a content creator, and adding more Cam Links over USB just doesn't make sense if this exists!
Do you have the latency tested?
Thanks for the fantastic review, very much helped a newbie like me.
I ordered this few days ago! Just arrived moahah!!! going to be nuts! Thankyou for all your amazing content!
I wasn't particularly sure if the Cam Link Pro was going to be a worthwhile switch from the Magewell - then you hit us with that input switching. That's EXACTLY what I was hoping for in a multi-input capture card like this. Elgato continues to impress!
Looking forward to the teleprompter setup video. Any ETA when it drops??
This is perfect timing. I am about to enter the two-PC system world, and was planning on using 3 4K60 Pro. Now I only need the one I have and this new card as I have two cameras that are only 4K 30 FPS out, and a GoPro for overhead. Excellent. Wonder when it will be out (seems in 2 weeks here).
Will it work on a B450 board ?
I am in LOVE. I think wait for HDMI 2.1 versions of these in the future but this card is everything
My Cam Link 4K that is plugged into the back of my PC overheats during long live streams, unless I position a USB fan above it. Some of the other solutions needed loud fans to cool the cards. This looks like it has air vents but no fan. Does it get hot over longer recording sessions, with multiple cams live?
I would love to see a comparison to the black magic card. I have that black magic card and an Intel system and I wonder if you get the same frame drop issues there? Looking to bring retro consoles as well as virtually anything else through the quad HDMI and would love the epos vox analysis
Oooooh, my ever important Pet Cam may be getting an upgrade! Currently my GH5 is feeding into an old Razer Ripsaw that is clunky and can't accept a 4k input. This may have to join my 4K60 Pro very soon.
Do while your were showing us your cameras, I noticed on some of them you had filters on your lenses, what filters are you using?
Is it possible to have two of this cards? The elgato software will be able to detect it and if so the source names will be duplicated? Cheers
This shot of you in front of this camera is so crisp!👌🏻
I enjoy it.
What combo camera / lens are you using ?
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did you move into your new digs?
I'm looking forward to the teleprompter video! A lot of the small ones you see on amazon use phone only, which doesn't help if you want to control it on your PC (unless you use software to make your phone another display, which is it's own thing lol). There was this one product I saw by Glide Gear called the TMP-WB Solo which latches onto an existing monitor or laptop and bounces a portion of the screen to the prompter above it, but I think it was discontinued sadly.
Edit: I found the 'ProPrompter Desktop,' which is great, but is also about the price of an Xbox Series X lol. Feels a bit much for a small 70/30 beam splitter glass, a small mirror, and a few pieces of aluminum but that's coming from someone who's being very cheap about it haha
DSLR Video Shooter had a great vid on using an external camera monitor as a screen for the teleprompter with his computer. He even had a one where the teleprompter also showed the people he was video calling with for eye contact
@@bhgemini I just watched the video and that was a spectacular idea! Especially with camera monitors that have HDMI passthrough to go into a cam link. Very clever! Thanks for sharing :)
@@JamesDavisMakes you're very welcome James. I ordered a monitor to use for this so will be trying to out myself soon. Also ordered the Cam Link Pro so I'll see what I can do with both. I had the tiny Parrot one and a larger homemade one and agreed with you 100%
Thanks for the video! Does it work with Android smartphones and Tablets?
Does this work more like a camlink or a capture card? Specifically, can the cameras be used in more than one program at a time? I run two instances of OBS and I can have my Avermedia capture card as a source on both, but I can't have my CamLink 4k, so instead I end up having to do virtual camera from one OBS instance over to the other one which isn't ideal.
In the video you shall peek, and find the answers you may seek.
@@EposVox LOL I swear I watched it when it dropped but I probably had it going while working and missed that part. Round 2 here we go
Oh hey, there it is! YAAASSS
Does it support 10 bit capture?
Really want to output log for good dynamic range on my S1H and S5. The Rec709 profiles clip way too early for my taste and in 8 bit V-Log breaks apart.
Have issues with the Blackmagic Design DeckLink Quad HDMI been solved?
Ive been watching your content to get my stream up and running and I thank you for all your input! Also I bought this Camlink Pro as soon as I saw this vid!
Not possible to buy yet?
I just bought the Cam Link Pro. Having Cam Link 4K before I bought a second Cam Link 4K but was having a nightmare where one of the video feeds would just freeze randomly. Spent ages trying to troubleshoot it thinking it was related to AMD Zen USB issues. Finally bit the bullet and got the Cam Link Pro and it has been rock solid.
Trying to have 2 of the Cam Link 4Ks on USB just isn't reliable even when on separate USB root hubs in the motherboard. PCIE FTW.
Now I just need to sell my 'Cam Cam Link' previous setup :)
Hey! I use that same teleprompter setup with a camera monitor!
Will it work inside a PCIE enclosure via thunderbolt for a laptop?
Thank you for your amazing quality videos, as per usual and also sharing your setup. Very insightful!
Is the latency more or less than the 4K60 Pro MK.2?
If we primarily use game capture hd60s and camlink and want to add some additional sources, would this be a good solution? Sometimes we play on the couch (with hd60s pass through) but have an hdmi running from the pc to the tv to show the game if needed.
Its going to be a problem if i use it simultaneous with a Magewell AIO 4K Plus capture card?
Have you tested the preview latency of this card?
I know it probably works just fine but how does it perform in linux?
i currently using 4k60 pro should i replace it with cam link pro? i all ready use my extra slot in my mobo for my 4k60 pro.
I'm frustrated with the 4K 60S+. Anyone else having difficulties getting smooth video through that ? After this video, I am thinking of returning the 4K 60S+, and saving myself some headaches ? Should I get the Cam Link Pro, or the Elgato 4K 60 Pro MK. 2 ?
I mean they’re completely different capture cards so that would depend on your needs
Hi. Is there a latency from the camera at 1080 60? Is there a lag when capturing a game?
Hi how does this work for game capture, do you still need one HDMI in and one HDMI out or does the game just play on your monitor from the PC ?
This looks amazing, but I have one important question. Does this card function with elgato's Game Capture HD software, even tho it calls itself a cam link instead of a game capture card? When I'm not streaming or using OBS, that is what i play my switch through. I love being able to power my switch on and open game capture hd to just play my switch on my desktop. When I stream I play off of a monitoring window of my capture, but I'd like to not have to open obs to just play my switch
I didnt even hear about this when it launched lol, just finding out as I was checking the cam link prices on amazon just now. This is something i've been wanting for years. There have been alot of multi input cards on the market for years, but elgato just straight up has the best software and integrations for streaming. I may replace my HD60 pro card with this.
You can use it with 4K Capture Utility, I’m not sure about the old GCHD app. It’s not supported anymore so probably not
With how much I despise Elgato I will give them credit on this one for being much cheaper than other options. Even though I still believe the original cam link price was absurd for a tiny usb stick and how Elgato capture software is still awful after nearly 10 years still
What an unexpected surprise! Cool product, thanks for the review! 😄
@EposVox, I think you mentioned using this to connect mobile phones as cameras. What method would you use to connect to the Cam Link Pro? I currently have one of my old phones connected, but it requires a USB connection with the Droidcam software and client. Do I just need to change the cable to a mini USB to HDMI one?
I don't know if I missed this or not, but do all four inputs show up as UVC devices? If so, then this would be a wicked option for a Linux machine.
I have a Question, I'm doing this but with 2 Cam Link 4K for each cameras. Would the Cam Link Pro be a much more simpler solution? I only ask because I only have 2 camera's and the Pro has 4 inputs. Would it be simpler for me to get the Cam Link Pro to do the same thing as what I'm trying to Do with my Cam Link 4K?
Yep!
To capture my screen in the picture-in-picture mode, can the multiview do this on its own? Or would I need an hdmi splitter, or to do it using OBS?
So I just bought this now, more than a year later, for 150€ (150$ since covnersion is 1:1 at this point)... after your video I am thinking it's an amazing deal!
HOWEVER. I am just waiting for a 4k60, 1440p120 capture card. Sadly not even magewell nor decklink support that, I think? As you say, if they used PCIe 3.0 or 4.0 it would be enough...
Definitely something I'll be on the lookout once my new rig is complete (waiting for GPU and CPU), for now I'll have to make do with the Feelworld Livepro as my current rig has no spare PCIe slots available. Maybe I miseed it in the video but does the multiview feature actually be output and viewed by the audience? If so, it becomes a real must have when compared to the ATEM Mini for my purposes when filming or streaming model-making/painting how tos and commentaries.
Everything I needed to hear! Order placed. Really gonna help with the USB bottlenecks I see now and send my Lego streams over the top
Dang it, I did not notice a single frame drop until you said something, its like that glass break moment lol. Great video thank you!
How does that Impact arm feel? I was thinking of getting a Manfrotto arm just to hold my DSLR, but that price difference sure is tempting...
Love it! Have a bunch
Im wondering about the input lag when playing a console through the cam link pro, seeing as it does not have any pass through to connect to your monitor or TV, is the lag noticeable at all? Could you play games through it?
The issue i have is that i have multiple game consoles that i stream game play from, i used to use a HDMI switcher connected to the consoles and inputting to elgato hd60plus, the issue is the ps5 does not like my splitter so now every time I change consoles I have to physically swap the HDMI cable going to the capture card, this has made cable management a nightmare coz i need easy access to the capture card, I was hoping the cam link pro would be my solution because of the multiple inputs but im concerned about the output or delay..
Hi EposVox , love your content. may I ask if the Elgato Cam Link Pro will it work in a thunderbolt 3 enclosure hooked into an intel nuc (with rtx3060ti) for capturing 4k off video camera's ?
I've got an ATEM mini pro ISO. Is there any software that will let me do ISO recording like that does? I want to use OBS as doing clever stuff just seems easier in that.
have you tried the magewell m.2 capture they come ion 2 input and 4 input also hdmi or sdi
IDK if that's just the shutter speed was too high of the A cam that you used to film this video from the beginning, the capture card or the PC that couldn't handle it but there are a lot of dropped frames, I was into the video for 5 sec and already noticed a lot of dropped frames, wanted to double check that if it is my browser but everything seemed fine on my end, watching @1440p.
Someone managed to comment while ignoring the pinned comment answering the very thing they were commenting on
@@EposVox 🤦♂️ didn't see that.
I just picked one up from elgato... which will be the best setup? Ryzen 3700x or 10700? Also, I want to use it to stream my son playing drums on youtube exactly like the Cam Link Pro demo video on the elgato site. Can anyone point me to a graphics overlay resource and/or tutorial for the cool graphics that were used in the video? Thanks in advance.
Will you try the new Intel igpu encoders vs older ones?
Looks like if you want to capture console gameplay (+ passthrough) you’d need a dedicated capture card plus this new cam link pro for multiple cameras + a motherboard (and PC setup) that can handle both + a streamdeck am I wrong? In this case what about plugging an ATEM Mini onto an AVerMedia Live Gamer Duo, wouldn’t this be cheaper and more capable (besides 4k resolution)? Thanks @eposvox for the good work, as always!
Hdmi splitters are cheap
@@EposVox yes but what if I want to play at, let’s say, 1080p120 with my shiny PS5? I mean the Cam Link Pro only supports 1080p60 right?
Correct. There’s no getting around that, but the ATEM mini won’t do it either
@@EposVox yes that’s why an ATEM Mini + AVerMedia Live Gamer Duo combo looks like the way to go at least for my case. Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my comments!
My question is can i use this for my capture device for a console and my cameras as well?
The video answers this question
@@EposVox yeah i asked super early, but i know im definitely getting one now.
Thanks for this video! What about HDMI passthrough? If I wanted to connect two cameras and a console into OBS, can I still pass the console through to my TV?
There’s 4 inputs, no passthrough. Would need HDMI splitters
I would like a review of the amazing Minolta X-370 you snuck into this vid... let's expand the channel focus to retro film photography equipment reviews... what is free time?
Can you record all four streams at 4k30 to disk at the same time with this for editing later?
Yep
This looks amazing. Currently I'm running 2 USB capture cards and was going to get a 3rd, possible a single cam link ironically before I saw this which has got me considering this instead. I've got 1 question though and I'm wondering if your able to test it. Can the Cam Link Pro handle the signal being output from an OSSC? I play a lot of retro capture and my current capture cards handle the signal with no problem but I know some capture card really don't like it.
Cheers for the video!
Do you still have the same limitation as to the camlink 4k with compatible cameras? That is why I purchased the ATEM Mini.
Cam link 4K, and the Pro, both work with any HDMI signal that’s within spec (1080p30/60, 1440p30/60, 4k30 and lower)
If anything the Atem Mini supports less devices by not having 4K support.
@@EposVox I always had the issue where I needed a clean HDMI Signal.
So, I can connect a Canon M50 to the HMDI Quad Card?
Other than bandwidth, why would I purchase an Elgato HDMI Quad Card when I have an ATEM-Mini.
Is the fact the card is connected to my motherboard while the ATEM-Mini USB-C?
That’s an issue no matter what capture device you use - the ATEM mini needs clean HDMI too, it can’t magically strip away your overlays on your camera feed.
There isn’t really a reason to get the Cam Link Pro if you already have an ATEM mini
No XRGB? What's your take on this?
It’s a camera capture card and the majority of cameras anyone would use for streaming (or even filmmaking) won’t output 4:4:4 in the first place. Would be cool if it supported it, but non-issue IMO
@@EposVox thank you for the reply, I have a A7S2 outputting 10 bit 4:2:2 and I noticed better image quality on XRGB although the framerate seems like dropping. Not sure what it is, but since I'm not moving a lot it doesn't really happen ever. Any ideas?
Well there shouldn’t be any better quality over YUY2, given YUY2 is uncompressed 4:2:2
Does it do software encoding or Hardware encoding ? Is there any latency ? Is the PIP scaleable of fix size ? How does the Capture card PCIe affect the bandwidth of GPU PCIe ?
PiP is fixed as I showed. Card doesn’t do encoding, no modern card does and you don’t want it to
@@EposVox Thank you reply back. Also, I dont care about the 4k60 output, But not having a 4K60 input means it cannot be used with Xbox and PS with 4K TV, even with a splitter. That's a deal breaker for me.
Correct, I explained that lol
anything on av1 ?
so if I want to game on the same PC with full PCIE 4x16 bandwidth, Z590/X570 or next gen main stream desktop platform would not be enough with that card because of only 16 PCIE lanes for devices like that, right? (4 lanes seem to be Nvme SSD only on most boards it seems)...
So instead of Z690 with a 12700k or so I should wait what intel 12th gen HEDT has to offer I guess to get all the PCIE bandwidth, or is there another way around with a current Z590 board with full x16 bandwidth + that card, which would also work with a similar Z690 board?
Most boards these days will also have a x4 slot run through the chipset and should be ok
@@EposVox thx that's good news.
So it seems like my favourite Asus Strix Z590-E and -F gaming have deleted PCIE x4 Ports, while Maximus Hero (expensive) and Tuf (less USB ports) have them. Will check also other brands then when Z690 comes to have that upgrade path open.
in general it seems like these newer higher end boards have more nvme drive slots and less dedicated pcie x4 slots
Acasis Quad has a card but see one video review on it so far
Ordered one for review
I wish they had Mac support. Nicely done with the black RE20, by the way.
what were those modular sliders from the overhead view?
Is there a cable add-on that I can attach to my USB cable of my Logitech C922 camera? So I can plug the webcams into these HDMI slots of this cam link pro. Need help; not very tech savvy). If there is such an add-on cable; a link would be cool...
*Should* be able to plug the Logitech into one of your USBs and have it show up in OBS or whatever you're using. This card is for DSLRs, camcorders, etc. that don't output video over USB.
@@CarltonGriffithPhoto Thankx, Carton.
How can you use an Elgato Cam Link Pro with ATEM Mini Pro, or is it, one or the other?
I mean, you can plug the HDMI output of the ATEM MINI PRO into the Cam Link Pro to add more HDMI inputs to it and then switch both on your computer and the ATEM but that might get messy.
@@EposVox Messy, how? Thanks. You rock!
Because then you're having to juggle switching inputs in OBS/etc. from the cam link pro AND switching inputs on the atem mini pro, routed to one of the cam link inputs. just a lot to keep up with
Has anyone tested this card for OSSC compatibility on it's different line multiplication modes? This card might be exactly what I need but really would like to know about OSSC compat. before spending 300+ on it just to find out it's a no go.
Thanks in advance for any info!
Does this have 4k60 pass through?
Doesn't support 4k60 and doesn't have pass-through at all. as clearly covered in the video.
that moment when I JUST bought the black magic and this is 150 cheaper... crap
Because Blackmagic is PRO while Elgato is Consumer, doesn´t matter if they marketing it as Pro. It is not.
those 3k subs will really enjoy it
Well, given 4 Camlinks on your PC can cause a lot of trouble among your USB devices, I’d say: Even if, for the most parts this is just 4 inputs, I’d use the heck out of this. To me, this card is simply not designed to be used for 4K capture. But then again, my stream setup would torture the heck out of my PC, if I did all of that in 4K. So I guess, I’m - for the most part - fine with 4:2:2 at 1080p60. Try to find 4K60 4:4:4 outputting cameras, let alone pay for them and you know why. I simply don’t view This CC as a 4K one. What’s slow, by the way, is the stream deck. I’ve struggling with it for the Year I have my stream deck now. 😅
Umm, edit?
I'mma just wait for an HDMI 2.1 capture card. I think this is super cool but I don't have much use for it. And I was gonna get the HD60S+ to hold me over but... That thing is $200 while the 4K60 Pro is $250. So I'm in this weird purgatory of "Don't wanna get the 4K60 Pro when HDMI 2.1 is surely around the corner" but also "Don't want to spend $200 on a HD60S+ when a 4K60 Pro can be had for just $50 more". Ugh.
Does this card work with Linux?
No
I love it! Shout out to ElKitty for continuing to innovate and make high quality video production easier for the masses. 👐
Now, how do I justify purchasing this device? 🤔 So many possibilities.
Oh my god YES
But does it... bypass HDCP? ;)
No
@@EposVox dang. I gotta be picky with my all-GH2 setup. :P
Only your camera lenses are more worth than my whole room
Has anyone tried this device on Linux? Ubuntu to be specific?
funny, that was 2021, the video felt like today/new.
I hate to break it to you but the 4k60pro has the annoying black screen issues 24/7 and elgatos 4k capture utility is actual garbage. The capture card scene reminds me of the car audio scene.
I have multiple 4k60 pros in use and have never had that issue, nor have I ever seen it mentioned as a common issue like the cam link.
4KCU is pretty bad as I say all the time
@@EposVox Hmm I've tried multiple different cables. I guess I could have a dud of a card that would be dissapointing. My workaround if unplugging and plugging back in the hdmi cable in the 4k60 pro.
Well then it’s likely not the card as those kinds of issues require the card to be reset if it’s at fault
@@EposVox hmm interesting only other thing I could easily think of would maybe be an issue with the capture card and first gen threadripper. It has persisted over multiple windows installs.
It could.also be in the wrong PCIe slot.
PCIe is all intended to be backward/forward compatible, but it may be a bandwidth issue.
This looks like the sort of tech I'd love an excuse to use but I have no need for it. Anyone wanna start a podcast? lol
Hmm
Funny that Elgato dares to label anything they make "PRO".
Take my money now lol
If my mum had seen your room... 😂🤣
She’d probably realize that someone who made a career out of doing what they love should have the freedom to pack their studio full of whatever they want and when things get torn down for an AC installation things get messy for a bit
@@EposVox - Hehe, she probably should. Mums are unpredictable creatures, though. She might just do the cleaning for you instead. 😁
She’d have little to do given there’s no cleaning to be done
And,.... they are gone.
$470 usd, oof, then again capture cards are 100-200$ each
$360 usd but ok
@@EposVox Looks like i had to manually change the location on their site my VPN didn't activate it. Canadian Beaver Pelt exchange coming back!
"Affordable"
Yes. $360 being right around the price of 4k single input capture cards and nearly half the price of the cheapest competitor on the market for its capabilities - that is the definition of an "affordable product" within the context of what you're buying.
Who came here from Alpha gaming?
Pokemon? really?
What’s wrong with Pokémon?