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It's finally here! @elgato has dropped TWO HDMI 2.1 capture cards today: The PCIe 4K Pro and USB 3.2 Gen 2 4K X! Both of these can pass through 4K 120Hz and 4K 144Hz for next-gen consoles and displays, but understanding their limitations and benefits is not an easy task. Here's my Elgato 4K X review and Elgato 4K Pro review, plus Elgato 4K X vs 4K Pro battle.
NOTE: Elgato Capture JUST updated the day this review goes live to support direct 4K60 capture from 4K X and Facecam Pro. W00T!
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TIMECODES:
00:00 What a mess
01:13 My recommendation
01:53 What is a capture card and why do you need one?
03:23 Elgato 4K Pro Review
03:44 Elgato 4K Pro SPECS
04:36 My disappointment
06:15 Why the 4K Pro is like this
06:48 Sick documentation from Elgato
07:14 HDR on 4K Pro
08:34 Ultrawide on 4K Pro
09:38 iPad Capture on 4K Pro
09:48 Steam Deck Capture on 4K Pro
10:28 Multi-App
10:41 Retro compatibility for 4K Pro
11:05 INPUT LATENCY RECORD SETTING
11:31 Linux?
11:42 tl;dr on Elgato 4K Pro - Worth it?
12:24 Do both of us a favor
12:54 Elgato 4K X review
13:22 Understanding 10gbps USB
14:21 3.5mm input & Chat Link Pro thoughts...
15:55 Elgato 4K X SPECS
18:30 Ultrawide on 4K X
19:11 Capturing iPad with 4K X
19:24 Retro compatibility for 4K X
19:47 INPUT LATENCY MADNESS
20:05 Capturing 4K X with iPad Pro!
20:19 Mac support for 4K X
20:52 Linux?
21:58 tl;dr on Elgato 4K X - Worth it?
23:08 5.1 Surround Sound Coming!
23:18 ALLM Passthrough
23:53 Elgato USB & HDMI cables set a precedent
24:10 CONCLUSION - What should you buy?
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NOTE: Elgato Capture JUST updated the day this review goes live to support direct 4K60 capture from 4K X and Facecam Pro. W00T!
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But still in SDR for 4k60 capture via 4KX?
SDR, yes
No, as explained in the video, 4K 240FPS gets recorded in 1080p 240FPS @@ajaysourav
@@ajaysourav I mean, the Mk2 won't let you pass through 4K240 at all, so
dude the production in the editing of this video alone is amazing.
Thank you :)
I have the 4k pro mk2 pci capture card and 2 cam links but just ordered the 4K X to go along with it, thanks for the video
Thanks for the review. Updating my PC soon and only ‘view’ the content on pass through rather than in OBS and I think I’m gonna see if the price drops on the 4k60 pro mk2
The themes, coloring, editing... Fantastic job. I totally cow farm mushroomed right back to my 80's teenage years and had to stop the video just to get a better look at the ambiance. Lots of effort and it shows. 👍☕🐢
Thank you :)
I love that you always give a review that is in depth, simple, and to the point to help assist with any purchases or thoughts of purchases, keep it up my man!!
Great and helpful in depth video!!! Appreciate the video!
Patiently waiting for what seemed like an eternity for something like the 4K X. Ordered mine as soon as it went live. Can't wait to try it out.
Great review, love the new transitions!
Nice video man. I was waiting for this video
Omg I should have watched this video first. I just upgraded to the 240hz monitor and just bought the 4kpro when I should have got the 4kX nooooo. Dnt know what I was thinking as I always come to your page for information for my tech. Great video love the editing and information you give, thanks
I don't know if you made the wrong decision. I have a 240hz monitor and if I want passthrough I need the 4K Pro. It sucks that it records at 1080p 240hz when it is passthrough 4k240hz but I can just upscale it to 4K60
I applaud the effort you put into these videos, thanks for all the info!
i bought both, needed newer hdmi spec devices. great review/info!
I absolutely love your content and we all appreciate your hard work.
Thank you!
Great review. Can you confirm whether or not HDR capture is possible on macOS?
Great video! Did you try it with Vertical plugin? Going on TikTok or another stream? For some reason it creates an encoding overload
Great review, picked it up today. Do you happen to notice posterization/color banding in passthrough when using 4k 120hz HDR? It seems to happen with a 422 chroma signal, which the PS5 outputs with that combo. I don't get the posterization with a direct connection.
Thanks for the review! Is 4k limited to 4:2:0 on the 4k X?
Love the editing
Great editing, love the VHS/crt vibe. What plugin did you use? It doesn’t look like red giant at all
I *plugged in* a composite video cable into a CRT TV
What reason do you have to believe that the Avermedia HDMI 2.1 card doesn't suppory ALLM while this one does? In the PS5 settings it says that if VRR is on, then ALLM is automatically turned on as well?
Thanks for the review. I"m looking to record at 1080p 240Hz, not for streaming, but just to record. The PC is a prebuilt HP Pavillion with a Ryzen 1700 cpu and an RX 550 and a 240 Hz 1080p monitor, ports are USB 3.1. We are simply recording the windows desktop which is showing some lab software and a video stream from a USB camera. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Is this just a single PC setup? If so, a capture card does not help you
thanks, it seems clear now that i may go for the "4K X" since im mostly worried for having that good quality on videos, as for streaming on twitch, i can just use my old HD60 PRO i guess (which is not important atm) im mostly focusing on youtube and i want those 4k playthrus to be good, what ya think?
Great quality video as always Adam! Is there any information about the experience on having the new 4K 240hz monitors that have DSC compression... how well that will work together with the passthrough and capturing?
Covered in 4K Pro specs section. Won't work with 4K X. Can't really tell you "how well" it will work until I have one
@@EposVox Apologies, missed that! thanks for info!
Thanks for the overview! Do you know if a 165hz monitor would work through passthrough 1440p or does the card lock at 144hz or 240hz?
I got the Elgato 4k X and have a had a lot of issues with it because my signal was technically "above" what the capture card could handle (it could still handle it with just a few hiccups here and there tho).
Never before this video did I actually even think of just getting a splitter that simply downscales the signal in resolution! That's exactly what I needed to fix all my problems with this capture card! Since I don't stream in 4k 120 and just wanted to play in 4k 120 while capturing it.
Wonderful video! Excellent advice. I do have a question though.
I’m getting the 4K Pro because I think HDR will be more important and prevalent as ours TVs and monitors continue to improve.
How do I ensure my PS5 and LG G2 are limited to 4K60 so I can do full resolution HDR recording? I’m fine streaming 1080p, because 4K streaming is still…impractical, at best. But I want to ensure I can make full quality VODs.
PS5 settings - Screen - 120hz, just set it to off
@@EposVox thank you!
I love your videos and how in depth they go. So I currently have the 4K60 Pro with a 3070 RTX, 32 GB of Ram and a Ryzen 7 3700X. I use my capture card to record PS5 gameplay with the 4K Utility Software from ElGato and I use OBS to record my webcam ( I do it like this so I can have full control of my webcam when editing, since I edit/export at 1440p 60FPS). Would you recommend me getting one of these capture cards to upgrade mine or should I just really stay with mine? I definitely want to eventually upgrade the GPU and CPU in the near future.
I mean, if you want to play in 4k120, yes get 4K X. If you’re happy with your setup now, don’t waste money
Hello man, thanks for the great job you do, im a streamer and i stream with dual PC, been watching the video but i still dont know if is worth to get one of the new cards, i always want to improve my stream as much as possible, so would love to know if it would improve my stream the 4k Pro, when i already have the 4k60 PRO, when my main monitor is 1440p 144hz, thanks in advance for your answer. Keep going strong.
I haven't used a capture card since the Elgato HD 60 came out so I decided to get the 4k X. I'm using it for my ultrawide Samsung Neo G9 so we'll see how that goes. I also have my gaming laptop so I can use it for that whenever I'm traveling.
Would you be willing to review the TUF GAMING CAPTURE BOX-4KPRO? I'd be interested in your thoughts on it.
I've been using it for a while. It works really well. At first it did have an issue with audio buzzing, which was fixed via firmware update. Other than that, the only remaining concern is the automatic firmware update in their software doesn't work, however I was able to successfully apply the update manually.
Let me know your thoughts.
Hey there! I can't seem to get a working 4K 120 recording from my PS5 with 4K X.
I did get 4K 120 file eventually, but only in 7mbit bitrate and very laggy, using OBS.
I got 4090 and 14900k, so my hardware shouldn't be an issue.
Apologies for the follow-up question (and I appreciate it may be difficult to say), but is the 4K X currently THE external capture device to get for retro and modern captures? I know there's been recent competitors from Genki and AverMedia.
Not sure if it's in the video, but the weird refresh rates of certain retro consoles... does the 4K X deal with these? I haven't a RetroTink 4K yet, but I know there was a triple-buffering mode in the 5X to help with this. The original OSSC would potentially present it with more problems in how it line-doubles.
Are we losing accurate color information with the mjpeg on the 4kx? It looked like in the comparison that it was darker. Can this be helped? 16:53
Hey, great video!
Do you have any advice on how to fix screen flicker with 4K X ? My TV screen goes black for a couple of seconds, but not in OBS or the capture utility. I've been trying to fix that for almost a week now. 😒
love the review!
I got a question about scaling resolutions.
Can I (or rather should I) record in 4k120 to 1440p 60fps xrgb and scale that footage back to 4k in a editing software?
I have a retrotink 4k and I want to make sure that the video is clean.
Btw big fan of your setup and capture card videos.
I was so excited when these were announced, but to learn I'm not able to capture 4K60 HDR whilst playing at 4k120/144 HDR is mind-boggling. In my case, it can't do anything more than what I currently can, so I guess I'll stick with my 4K60S+ for now.
Just Ordered the 4K X..Im coming from the HD 60 S+ AND im pretty sure this thing is gonna run way smoother and my streams are gonna run way better.Hopefully it ship fast
For the Latency is that at 1080p or 4k 120hz? I would love for a card that could be 2-1 Frame Difference.
The 5.1 audio capture is the more interesting news to me. I know it adds more bandwidth, but I really hope they can get that working with the 4K X at a lower resolution.
Good video ! Is the codec AV1 compatible with this card ? And what the maximum bitrate recording ?
These send uncompressed video to your PC, there is no maximum bitrate.
AV1 encoding requires support from your PC - RTX 40 series or newer Nvidia, Intel Arc, or AMD RX 7000 series GPUs. Which capture card you use does not affect which encoder you choose in OBS.
I know it ain’t much, but it’s honest work LOL. This was so well explained and well made, thank you so much!
I have a question, I have an M3 MacBook Pro, and would like to use it as a display for my Xbox Series X/PS5. Will the Elgato 4K X work and display the full resolution at the MacBook’s screen?
Thank you so much for the tip!
Yes, you can fullscreen the preview in OBS or maybe Quicktime, though there is added latency compared to a native input on a TV/monitor.
just wondering if you have any thoughts about the ShadowCast 2 Pro, cant seem to find many videos about that card
Thank you for including the latency to preview and to keep a historic data of it, many outright skip that part.
For more casual games I use my HD 60 Pro without passthrough and play it on the 4K Capture Utility instead, couple more generations and we might have a capture card where you might be able to play without noticeable input lag on the Preview.
im using the 4k 60 and playing via passthrough in HDR. I saw that the passtrough gives me HDR yuv422 at 4k 60hz becuase of the 2.0 HDMI. shoud I get the 4k pro for a HDR FULL RGB passtrough? do i miss a real HDR exp with HRD yuv422? the thing is, i dont need 120hz... its worth it for a HDR RGB passtrough? is there actually a difference betwenn HDR RGB and yuv422 HDR? on PC I geht HDR RGB but 8 bit with dithering and not 10 bit because of HDMI 2.0 is that enough? al lot of questions..
Amazing coverage and excited to have a decent USB 4 capture device finally!
This isn't even USB 4. Once USB 4 capture cards come out, we'll probably be looking at capturing 4K240 HDR 😁
Great review. I can't wait to order a 4K X.
You always surprise me with different editing styles and presentation when it comes down to these. Well, what feel like "Passion Projects" as such. P.S You always the first person I know is going to make the most informative and educational video and about capture cards and encoding. Rock on and solid work.
I've got a Dell Alienware AW3225QF which apparently has DSC always on. I'd like to use 4k240 passthrough and capture at 1080p60. The documentation for the 4k Pro says, "4K Pro does not support the capture of video signals utilizing Display Stream Compression (DSC)." is this true? Will it not work at all?
Is the future 5.1 audio update truly limited to the 4k Pro? Other outlets are simply saying it's coming with no mention of model restrictions. I suppose it could be somewhat assumed due to usb bandwidth, but between video compression (which you've noted), resolution/framerate downscaling, and potential audio compressions it doesn't seem like an impossibility for the 4K X to me.
They are only looking into it for 4K Pro AFAIK yes. Likely a bandwidth issue.
So no multi-app with the USB 4k X only 4K Pro? It's not easy living for new tech.. Great video as usual!
how would any of you capture a 1080p 360hz monitor for a 1080p60 livestream?
Does this mean that I can capture 4k30p 10-bit 422, slog 3 footage from my Sony cameras into OBS onto the capture card, and color grade it in premiere? I've wanted to consider 10 bit capture recording from the 4k hdmi capture card from blackmagic because it does 10-bit, but was waiting to see if competitors would do something about it. Curious what this new gen of elgatos can do.
Not exactly. 4K30 can do 4:2:2 YUY2, 4:2:0 NV12, or 4:2:0 P010 (10-bit)
So you can do 10-bit OR 4:2:2
OBS doesn't even have a 4:2:2 10-bit format it supports anyway
So i am passing through to a 165Hz 1440 monitor (hdmi limited to 144) on a 4K 60 Pro II. I don't use the HDR400 (which is not hdr) either. I see no need to upgrade at all.
I'm curious if the ezcoo 2.1 can downscaling 4K 120hz HDR signal to a 1080p HDR signal
Hey man, can we change sharpness settings in video config ,4k x ?
Can this capture cards support wierd 16:10 rsolutions, like for example 2880x1800 - pass trought ?
So do we still need the Elgato Chatlink/Pro in conjunction with an HDMI Audio Extractor for gameplay audio with the 4K Pro while using a wireless headset with consoles?
Won't work for that
Hi, I followed the extra steps for audio for game capture for macOS within OBS - but there's still no audio being captured. Just video. Please help!
This card capture card will be good with the Nintendo switch?
I own a 4k pro mk2 and was considering this downscaler you linked, but AFAIK it does not support downscaling VRR, so its not worth it. Might as well suck it up and get the new 4k pro
Hey great video! Quick question, will the 4k x work on Mac m2 chips? Thanks
Yep
Interesting how the 4K Pro didn't receive any upgrades to the capture hardware over the 4k60 pro m2 but the latency was nearly halved, any thoughts on why that is?
perhaps they could update the MK2 drivers, but won't, to sell new product
Great video! Quick question - for the 4K X, do I need to use the USB 3.2 C-to-C cable or can I use a USB C-to-A cable similar to the HD60 X? Just asking as I have limited USB C inputs on my motherboard.
USB-A will limit you to 5Gbps. Your motherboard port must be 10Gbps and up.
thank you!!@@vincentvega3093
The port on your motherboard needs to support 10Gbps. So USB 3.2 Gen 2. It can be A or C.
Yeah USB A isn't inherently limited to 5, I even showed 10gbps A ports in the video. Just need to get a 10gbps capable cable and make sure you have a 10gbps type A port.
Question, what pc mother board do you recommend, it looks like my pc will need to be revamped..
Amazing explanation but I think my streamer x fits my needs as of now. just one question tho, what mic did you use while recording this video?
On-camera bits with MKH-416 (other than the iPad section), voiceover with Lewitt LCT 1040
@@EposVox thank you so much. Going to look into the 416, Tom buck says he uses the mkh 50 and his voice sounds good as well. Decisions decisions.
The 50 is good
Hi there! I'm using a 4K Pro to capture PS5 (I want to game in 4K but stream & record at 1080p) but my colors look super washed out, regardless of HDR on or off. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
For someone who lives in Canada thank you for adding the Canadian price. got a follow from me!
Doesn’t seem to capture Series X content if Dolby Vision is enabled. Is this the case or am I missing something?
So how do i use this mjpg codec and where? to record 4k 60 with 5Gbps usb-c on my older laptop? Thanks
I know it's a rude question, but the comparison is so hard to make, so I'm commenting. Would buying the GC575 be a much better choice in the end? I thought it would be hard to notice the difference between 30ms and 60ms, although the Inputlag is definitely higher at 60ms.
Why would that be better? It’s the worst of the HDMI 2.1 options lol. Would be better off with the USB options from either AVerMedia or Elgato
What is the benefit of 10gbps USB over my current HD60S+? Improved latency and stability? Thanks.
And all the new specs it can pass through and capture… lol
If you wanted, could you use the 4k x to record on a single pc. I want to buy it for my current xbox series x but plan to get a pc in the future. Would I be able to use it for that pc instead of needing to buy a recording software?
You dont need to buy recording software. OBS is free. You COULD use it to record your PC, but it would provide you nothing of value over using OBS and would be a waste of money
@@EposVox Oh okay, thank you!
if i used the 4kPro on a single PC setup to stream (hdmi from GFXCard to "in" and "out" to single monitor) will it cap the monitor to only display at 4k with 60hz? or can i see 144hz but the capture only be 60hz? or does the 4k X allow both to be 120hz?
tl;dr - is 8:40 recorded on a single PC? and was it playing at 100hz
Capture cards provide no value or utility to a single PC setup and would be a waste of your money
U should review the Roland Bridge Cast X
Great video. Took a couple years but it finally seems to be happening. Proper 4K high fps capture on the one side, AV1 support on the platforms ... maybe another year or two and it might become the new normal. On the other hand one has to ask if all of it is even necessary. 8-10Mbit AV1 at 1080p in HDR would tick every box for me as a viewer and not blow up my connection. And I think that is true for at least everyone who is watching on a mobile device as well.
Well remember, just because you're streaming in 1080p doesn't mean you want to be limited to only playing in 1080p lol
Totally valid. I just think that higher resolution (especially at high fps) doesn't really make a big difference on the viewer side. I watch 960p and sometimes 720p streams on twitch that are easily good enough for a second screen today. A bump to 1080 AV1 at anything over 8bit colors (fuck those muddy shadows) is gonna be enough for almost anyone. So I expect that to be the sweetspot for a long time. @@EposVox
Any news about color range on these new cards or its the same as before? Just watched your video about full vs partial color range..
I’m not sure I understand the question. The video about full vs partial is a static concept, there’s not going to be any news about it.
@@EposVox in that video you said that some capture cards can handle full color range, with chroma subsampling 4:4:4, and that was not the case of Elgato 4K60 Pro..
@@meugameplay4k all cards can handle limited/full color ranges. For chroma subsampling, yes, I discuss that in the specs section of this video lol
Excuse me for mentioning that you prefer to use magewell with RT4K? I am considering buying the 4K X for RT4K, PS5 and maybe PC but your comment caught my attention, greetings
It was $1800 and I don't want that to go to waste, and it's the best result you can get for HDMI 2.0 4k60 haha
@@EposVox I have noticed that in the RT4K there are some problems with the RGB masks, it is completely impossible to capture them with my current 4K60 Pro, nor can I capture them with the same ElGato software and I am interested in a solution and I thought that is why you liked your Magewell capturer better
Well you CAN capture them, they just aren’t going to look right unless the video is played back at native 4K. Magewell doesn’t fix this lol
@@EposVox ohh thanks👍
First off, amazing color grade, colors looking sweet!! Question….What encoder option settings did you use on your Mac ultra? For my M1 Pro Mac, it only plays back smoothly when using ProRes encoder, but then a 1 min clip is 7GB! All other Mac encoders give me overload error, & laggy playback. What gives?
HEVC and ProRes!
@@EposVoxthx! HEVC def doesn’t work on slower M1Pro Macs. Looks like M1 Max/ultra chips & up can handle it. Thx for confirming 🎉
Super odd since iPhone/iPad can do it
@@EposVox yup, I’ve completed my testing today. 4K60 “streaming”: Only works with x264 with ‘extremely fast’ preset (anything slower leads to overload). For 4k60 “recording”: Only works with ProRes. This combo also works at same time, surprisingly. (ProRes Proxy has smallest file size @ about 8gb per every 3min.) official current OBS.
@@AJCoReTV I feel like there has to be something else funky here; I was able to do 4K60 HEVC recording on my base 8GB M1 Mac Mini I used to have. I was able to hit encoder lag sometimes (still can on the M2 Ultra) but I was still able to do it o_O
I can't remember if I tested it w/ gameplay (since we didn't have 4K60 USB cards then) but I recorded a year's worth of tutorials etc., even higher than 4K since I was doing 4K30 cam and 3440x1440p60 screen at the same time.
So what's this MJPeg codec, I've never heard of it and it looks like it's the only way that i can record in 4k 120
U should review the genki shadow cast pro 2 its really good from what ive heard
It’s on my list!
@@EposVox nice looking Foward to it
11:12 You forgot to put your NZXT latency specs in the list, as they should be up around the 34-36 ms range, right?
How would you game at 1440/360 or 1440/480 and stream at 1080/60?
How is this powered; via the HDMI input or the USB? If via the USB then it means it always needs to be powered via USB to pass through the signal to your monitor?
USB, yes. But most PCs supply power to USB even when off
@@EposVoxthanks (and great video as always). Wouldn’t have a computer hooked up to it all the time, so it sounds like I’d need to power it all the time to ensure a signal always went to the TV.
Can't it help single stream computers if I need to connect a camera with HDMI out? Even cameras that support webcam mode usually only does that in 1080p.
Well yes, but that’s for *outside sources*. A camera is still an outside source lol
Do you know if this capture card supports Freesync over HDMI 2.1 at up to 240/360hz? The Avermeida Live Gamer Ultra 2.1 does
240 yes. 360hz isn’t supported at all
@@EposVox do you know if Freesync works over HDMI 2.0 on this card? I meant to ask that not 2.1 my bas
as a mac user are you finding that you can run 4k60 or 4k120 sdr on a M series mac? wanna pick one up asap but cant find anything to state it will
Yep, I have a whole Mac section for 4K X and was testing on M2 Mac Studio
I have some Windows BSOD issues with the current Elgato 4K60 Pro Mk.II. Seemingly it'll happen at random. With the new PCI-E card, did it use a new driver package or the same ones? I'm almost tempted to upgrade to fix these random system crashes, and yes I've worked with Elgato's support for over a month, and still getting the crashes after driver upgrades, downgrades, you name it.
By any chance your 4K60 Pro MK2 is experiencing BSOD due to:
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL error:
SYMBOL_NAME: SC0710_X64+264ec6
MODULE_NAME: SC0710_X64
IMAGE_NAME: SC0710.X64.SYS
STACK_COMMAND: .cxr; .ecxr ; kb
BUCKET_ID_FUNC_OFFSET: 264ec6
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: AV_SC0710_X64!unknown_function
OSPLATFORM_TYPE: x64
OSNAME: Windows 10
FAILURE_ID_HASH: {8c8cdb1b-a17d-eadd-623d-c40d05e49c5d}
I've tried current, older, beta drivers suggested by Elgato tech support for over 2 months. Nothing has helped. The SC0710.X64.SYS error is asinine.
@@sagi9407yes, that’s exactly what happens. The older driver they had me downgrade to has made the BSOD less frequent, but it will still happen on occasion.
So I received my 4K Pro and installed it about an hour ago. I can confirm that it does use a different driver package. Latest as of 2/4/2024 is version: 1.1.0.202 from 12/8/2023. So far no SC0710_X64 BSOD's, but I'll monitor it over the next month and will respond if I get one.
👍 nice, keep us posted!
If i clone my 360hz 1440p OLED (pn my gaming pc) to the new elgato Pcie card on my streaming pc, will that even capture properly or what is the expected behavior?
No
Can the Elgato 4K X capture 4K30 at 4:4:4 RGB?
Sorry if I missed it!
4K30 can do 4:2:2 YUY2, 4:2:0 NV12, or 4:2:0 P010 (10-bit)
Is the definitive guide updated as newer OBS versions come out or its not necessary for a long time?
I swap out videos as needed for updates, otherwise adding a new chapter for broad OBS updates that don't change the core content
If you use passthrough, is there ANY added latency to the gaming PC?
No
so, if i want to play 4k120/60 HDR and record 4K60 HDR PS5, which capture card i need to buy? i use 4k144hz monitor and plan to capture 4k60 hdr..
There is no option for doing that at this time
I know this isn't the focus of this review, but how is the audio delay on either product? I ask that because I need to extract the audio without using these cheapo Amazon HDMI 2.1 Audio Extraction devices that never seem to last. It would be great to monitor that input in real time and ditch the cheap hardware. Maybe there is better purpose-driven hardware I'm missing. Using VRR on consoles with a PC monitor that has no dedicated audio out is a mess!
Covered in the latency section; though you want to use Windows listen as (in my experience) OBS audio monitoring adds even more delay
You can also try Voicemeter Potato for transmitting audio from gaming PC to streaming PC. Unsure which has the better overall latency though.
I am so confuised I want to get a pcie HDMI 2.1 cap card but not sure what to get I got the avermedia but do you think I should return it and get the elgato pcie HDMI 2.1 cap card I am on a xbxo series x
*Why* do you specifically want a PCIe one? The AVerMedia one is literally just the USB one slapped on a PCIe card, and with Elgato the USB is better.
@@EposVox I would be okay with getting a USB one as well was just trying to minimize the number of cables I was going to have on my desk the motherboard i am going to be using is a ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme(WiFi 6E) CPU is a 7950x and gpou is a 4090
@@EposVox When I went through the elgato help me choose it said to get the PCIe cap card
I have the AW3423DW which is limited to HDMI 2.0 or as I am currently using the displayport. I want all the features, HDR VRR 2k(at least 120hz) ultrawide. What are my options? I am using NDI with my two PC setup but I don't get the tonemapping stuff and have never been able to dial it in right. I was hoping these capture cards would be my savior but I forgot my monitor needs display port. If there any option for display port to hdmi 2.1 that works? If not, how can i do tone mapping with NDI?
Please and thank you for your awesome work, I plan on picking up your OBS Definitive Guide course, so if this information is in there, that would be perfect.
...TIL the A3423DW only supports HDMI 2.0. I don't know how I missed that. No wonder I could only pass 100Hz to it lol
@@EposVox Haha well glad I could help shed some light there! Do you know if its possible to convert HDMI 2.1 to DP through a cable or device? That way I could have my cake and eat it too for this monitor.
@@EposVox I gave up for the time being, I will just live at 100hz and use the new capture card for passthrough to hmdi 2.0 of my monitor. I will be keeping my eye on the new oleds that come out and hopefully one releases in 1440p high refresh and hdmi 2.1
I might try buying some of these devices that claim to do HDMI 2.1 to DP but I doubt any of them will work with VRR.
Ok, so it seemed glorious at the beginning, but I can't capture 1440p 60 if I passthrough 1440p 240 Hz makes it pointless since I already have the 4K60 Pro MkII and capture at 1440p60/120.
They can probably change this with a few software updates over time
@@JonesTheLad I doubt it, since the 4K X can do it already.
I have a 2 pc set up with the first 4k60 PCIe is it worth upgrading at all?
The rule of upgrades: If your current tool does what you want, don't upgrade.
What device can pass through 4K 120hz and extract optical audio? For my Astro a50 ps5 set up… not the new a50 x
www.easycoolav.com/products/4k-120hz-hdmi-21-splitter-1x4-audio-extractor-vrr-allm-hdcp23
@@EposVoxthank you.. keep up the awesome work and helping others