You say that the CX is definitely worth it for a new driver without any customers of their own and that you get what you put in, put in a lot of hours and you'll make a decent income. I absolutely don't agree with that (but respect your opinion, so would like to understand it better). Can you tell me what you consider a "lot of hours to be" and what you consider to be a "decent income" to be? (after deducting costs). In some ways the drivers in the countryside have the advantage over the drivers in the large cities. Cities such as London and Manchester are now pretty unworkable. Yes there is a lot of work, but there's substantially more drivers all trying to undercut one another to win those jobs. You hear from shippers that they're getting work covered for ridiculously low rates - 50ppm and less! And that's all size vans, not just small vans. How do you compete with that? In quieter areas, yes you're struggling for work, but when it does come up, there's far less competition and you can get better rates.
Hi @whitevanman9569. The reason i say the cx is worth it for new drivers is because what other options do they have? The idea is always to look for your own customers but in the process of doing that, you need to be earning some income especially at the beginning. I definitely see where your coming from in regards to bigger cities having more drivers meaning more competition but i feel like if you genuinely do a good job everytime, shippers will get to know you and you will stand out. Especially as there are so many unreliable drivers in the big cities. Many of these Shippers actually prefer giving jobs to the drivers they trust and not just the cheapest quotes out there. In London, we get a few afternoon/night jobs within the city which pay well as many drivers dont want to work late which is what i meant by putting in the hours. Its definitely not a regular 9-5. The reason i prefer cities is because as you said, there are vans quoting at 55pm, however in London we dont quote per mile, we quote for the time it will take. It also means you never really have any dead miles to get home at the end of day. Both have their pros and cons i guess 🤷♂️
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That is a great idea. Would have to catch them on a day they are down in London 🤔
You say that the CX is definitely worth it for a new driver without any customers of their own and that you get what you put in, put in a lot of hours and you'll make a decent income. I absolutely don't agree with that (but respect your opinion, so would like to understand it better). Can you tell me what you consider a "lot of hours to be" and what you consider to be a "decent income" to be? (after deducting costs).
In some ways the drivers in the countryside have the advantage over the drivers in the large cities. Cities such as London and Manchester are now pretty unworkable. Yes there is a lot of work, but there's substantially more drivers all trying to undercut one another to win those jobs. You hear from shippers that they're getting work covered for ridiculously low rates - 50ppm and less! And that's all size vans, not just small vans. How do you compete with that? In quieter areas, yes you're struggling for work, but when it does come up, there's far less competition and you can get better rates.
Hi @whitevanman9569. The reason i say the cx is worth it for new drivers is because what other options do they have? The idea is always to look for your own customers but in the process of doing that, you need to be earning some income especially at the beginning.
I definitely see where your coming from in regards to bigger cities having more drivers meaning more competition but i feel like if you genuinely do a good job everytime, shippers will get to know you and you will stand out. Especially as there are so many unreliable drivers in the big cities. Many of these Shippers actually prefer giving jobs to the drivers they trust and not just the cheapest quotes out there. In London, we get a few afternoon/night jobs within the city which pay well as many drivers dont want to work late which is what i meant by putting in the hours. Its definitely not a regular 9-5.
The reason i prefer cities is because as you said, there are vans quoting at 55pm, however in London we dont quote per mile, we quote for the time it will take. It also means you never really have any dead miles to get home at the end of day. Both have their pros and cons i guess 🤷♂️
What a load of bullshit