@@adammagill930 Straight from the horses mouth... ua-cam.com/video/gJU5DDh0DEc/v-deo.html I would heartily recommend that entire documentary series, probably the most honest and sobering take on what would have likely happened.
Technically these videos are still restricted despite there age, as of yet however MI5 haven't kicked in my door so fingers crossed. It is a pity that the MOD don't release ones that are say 25 years old as there are hundreds in the SKC/SSVC archives. The only way to get your hands on some more would be if you knew someone in a training wing at a regular or TA unit who was willing to copy them, but anyone serving could find themselves in the sh*t for doing that so it probably wouldn't happen.
SKC stood for Services Kinematic Corporation they became SSVC Services Sound & Vision Corporation that controlled all audio visual related aspects of service life from the single TV channel we had in BAOR to shops selling AV equipment to service personnel. They were a corporation like the BBC or NAFFI. I'm an old soldier now so I don't know what the current situation is, probably been privatised like everything else in the military.
Wow,interesting to see a complete discharge of the smoke grenades at 04:11. Was it12? grenades forming a screen right across the front. There should be. Good stuff.
1:60 dismounting vehicle . i wonder which was more effective - a m113 ramp, or that Brit can's swinging door? look how it is shoved open but immediately bangs closed unless held by a man. 2:15 - hey NATO , the dead gunners called from Heaven. They are complaining that even after the battle of Ap Bac, M113 and this british APC's machien gunners are completely exposed while firing. The soveits put their APC gunners under cover in teh 60s. In a irrregular war, APC gunner casualties are one thing,but what of the WW3 scenario?, with massive small and high caliber fire drenching the battlefield? even mortar shells and rifle fire would have discouraged gunners from raising up to fire. Also, the morale of occupants in the vehciles cracks when a dead, mutilated, or injured man falls away from the gun. The vietnamese didn't have air burst shells, or maybe not as many as the Warsaw Pact. APC MG gunners would have been killed, or been forced under cover. And what of the infantry who are dismounted but not receiving supporting fire.
They made a armoured turret mg mounted version of this apc something they should have used here, it was fully rotatable as for the door well they were lethal one of the lads lost four fingers in one due too slamming shut on an incline
There's a broiler on the back of the door so that you can heat up food make drinks etc, so I rather have the door M113 amphibious FV 432 not unless you use a flotation screen, Not advised. FV432 made of steel not aluminum.
decimated550 Higher level of protection and easier to repair if damaged or hit, some had a hydraulic ram to open the door as it was difficult to debus when it was facing down hill hence the need for hydraulic ram. Some vehicle had a scat mounting a twin GPMG mounting. Gunner was exposed but had better visibility sort of action / reaction. Israeli army took this rout then went undercover now have gone back to plan one.
We had a company of these in Berlin in the 90s. 30mm Rarden in the turret. AFIK they were the only ones in the Army - also had a cool urban camo paintjob.
Not exactly, but 3 platoons of 4 vehicles each and a couple for Company HQ - 14 seems right. The official designation was 432/30. Easy to find on Google We had Fox with the same turret for recce, and the tankies had chieftain in the same camo pattern.
Alternate title: "How To Get Killed In The First 30 Minutes Of The War"
really, how so?
@@adammagill930 Straight from the horses mouth... ua-cam.com/video/gJU5DDh0DEc/v-deo.html
I would heartily recommend that entire documentary series, probably the most honest and sobering take on what would have likely happened.
SKC video 'Soviet Encounter' ! If anyone can post this gem it would make my day.
Glenn Winstanley ua-cam.com/video/nh0WQOr5kb0/v-deo.html
Technically these videos are still restricted despite there age, as of yet however MI5 haven't kicked in my door so fingers crossed. It is a pity that the MOD don't release ones that are say 25 years old as there are hundreds in the SKC/SSVC archives. The only way to get your hands on some more would be if you knew someone in a training wing at a regular or TA unit who was willing to copy them, but anyone serving could find themselves in the sh*t for doing that so it probably wouldn't happen.
here is nothing secret, and outdated moreover
SKC stood for Services Kinematic Corporation they became SSVC Services Sound & Vision Corporation that controlled all audio visual related aspects of service life from the single TV channel we had in BAOR to shops selling AV equipment to service personnel. They were a corporation like the BBC or NAFFI. I'm an old soldier now so I don't know what the current situation is, probably been privatised like everything else in the military.
4:20 ... I wouldn't want that guy running behind me shooting at my back
If it wasn't for the early mornings, being out in all weathers, and the risk of sudden, violent death, war looks like it would be quite fun.
How armed pawns take back the lands of richer, wiser men. Pt 2.
Plans only last until the first contact with the enemy.
There was no mention of what happens when 1 or 2 or those tanks are knocked out
yes. clearly, these tanks and carriers would have run into my minefield.
Best Camo on a 432 ever! Amazed to see them moving e.g Not Broken down!
Wow,interesting to see a complete discharge of the smoke grenades at 04:11. Was it12? grenades forming a screen right across the front. There should be. Good stuff.
These videos are amazing.
that's too bad. these are better than any us training film i've seen. it'd be interesting to know more about skc.
well done lads clean job nice and easy
1:60 dismounting vehicle . i wonder which was more effective - a m113 ramp, or that Brit can's swinging door? look how it is shoved open but immediately bangs closed unless held by a man.
2:15 - hey NATO , the dead gunners called from Heaven. They are complaining that even after the battle of Ap Bac, M113 and this british APC's machien gunners are completely exposed while firing. The soveits put their APC gunners under cover in teh 60s. In a irrregular war, APC gunner casualties are one thing,but what of the WW3 scenario?, with massive small and high caliber fire drenching the battlefield? even mortar shells and rifle fire would have discouraged gunners from raising up to fire. Also, the morale of occupants in the vehciles cracks when a dead, mutilated, or injured man falls away from the gun. The vietnamese didn't have air burst shells, or maybe not as many as the Warsaw Pact. APC MG gunners would have been killed, or been forced under cover. And what of the infantry who are dismounted but not receiving supporting fire.
They made a armoured turret mg mounted version of this apc something they should have used here, it was fully rotatable as for the door well they were lethal one of the lads lost four fingers in one due too slamming shut on an incline
There's a broiler on the back of the door so that you can heat up food make drinks etc, so I rather have the door M113 amphibious FV 432 not unless you use a flotation screen, Not advised. FV432 made of steel not aluminum.
maxbodymass FV was steel/? did that give it more protection that aluminum?
decimated550
Higher level of protection and easier to repair if damaged or hit, some had a hydraulic ram to open the door as it was difficult to debus when it was facing down hill hence the need for hydraulic ram.
Some vehicle had a scat mounting a twin GPMG mounting. Gunner was exposed but had better visibility sort of action / reaction. Israeli army took this rout then went undercover now have gone back to plan one.
this is some old school war fighting
Thanks SMP, iv been looking for videos like these for some time. Do you know where I can find others/more?
What is that FV432 with the turret?
We had a company of these in Berlin in the 90s. 30mm Rarden in the turret. AFIK they were the only ones in the Army - also had a cool urban camo paintjob.
@@TooBadJim Do you remember how many of them there were?
Not exactly, but 3 platoons of 4 vehicles each and a couple for Company HQ - 14 seems right. The official designation was 432/30. Easy to find on Google
We had Fox with the same turret for recce, and the tankies had chieftain in the same camo pattern.
What year is this from?