Captain yells at First Officer on ATC frequency after failed approach at Newark. Real ATC Audio
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Imagine what we didnt hear
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You didn’t hear the first officer thanking the captain after the flight for the valuable lesson he learned.
True 😮
@@reyd8609.
In the world of instruction, that’s not a way to deliver a message.
@@reyd8609If the captain cannot maintain himself, he cannot handle an actual emergency. Lives are more important than his ego.
Doesn’t matter if the FO was a complete idiot. This Captain is a complete disaster. Be calm, cool and collected. This hyper aggressive attitude is why airplanes crash because of a quick nervous reaction. I have 25 years of airline experience. I have taken control three times in my career. All you say very calmly is ‘I have the aircraft’. Fly the airplane first but maintain a calm tone even in the most extreme situations. Getting into panic won’t save the situation. Poor leadership and command abilities.
As an airline pilot you have no idea what was going on and how bad and how often the situation happened
@@pilot41186 Please explain the situation where getting angry and yelling in the cockpit improves safety.
If the captain is the pilot monitoring, then isn't he the one who's supposed to raise the landing gears?
@@CanVeyn how would you know that it's not an easy call with a heavy plane to take over the controls and it can make the situation worse if you claim to be a wannabe pilot?
@@ro-86alkonost78 i didn’t say i know i said i think
ATC: „say reason for go around”
FO: ”unstable captain”
Not funny, but spot on!
@@dennymontgomery9716 it kinda is funny because the reason was actually "unstable approach" which is the pro term for it but it fits perfectly to the captain. Seems like a little too high for your sense of humor, no offense ;)
@@dennymontgomery9716 IT WAS FUNNY!
Stupid comment if you actually understood the need and cause for the authoritatively issued instructions .
Stupid they ask for reason nothing ATC can do about it just say a PIC decision
Yelling at people always makes them perform better in stressful situations. (Sarcasm)
It actually does with me
Old school discipline doesn't apply anymore? You hurt my feelings?
Worked in Boot Camp
Worked in the army lol
@@reyd8609lol that’s not discipline…..
sounds like he picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
😂😂😂
Airplane! reference. Nice 😂
Best comment on here!
The shit has hit the fan!
What’s your vector Victor ? 😬
"Gear up!! Watch your speed!!! Bring the power back!! Pull the red handle, Striker!!!"
Looks like I picked the wrong time to give up drinking!
Striker?! I hardly know her!
Surely you can't be serious.
Joey have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
We're on instruments now.
The fact that he hit the transmit button to yell at the FO is an interesting detail.
not on purpose.
@@reyd8609 But they sounded like individual transmissions.
@@adamtaylor31 the transmit toggle switch is in the yoke and you can easily sometimes inadvertently press it when holding the yokel.
@@reyd8609 you mean captain perfect made a mistake? Surely this warrented a chewing out by ATC? "STOP TRANSMITTING! OPEN MIKE! SHUT UP!" That would be the correct way to restore discipline on frequency wouldn't it?
I wonder if the FO might have "accidentally/on purpose" keyed the mic so there would be a record of the Captain's behavior that he could point to later.
That’s what we call “bid avoid” in the industry. Sounds like that captain needs to retire.
You’re bidding on avoiding?
sounds to me like AI added voices not authentic to the situation
This Captain needs to retire before he kills someone.
Good thing he is flying cargo lol.
@@SYDAirlineEnthusiast lol
@@SYDAirlineEnthusiast - Nothing wrong with flying cargo, but you’re not far from right - Amerijet is NOT a top shelf operation (thanks to it’s owner mostly, as well as the management he employs), and while there are many fine pilots there, operators like that tend to be some of an “island of misfit toys,” where some people wind up when they can’t find work anywhere else.
I think the Captain would make a very good flight instructor, if he is not one yet.
I personally commend the Captain.
This is the kind of guy that's causes air crashes. Not stable? it's not a biggie... Just go around... Debrief or say I'm taking over.. And life goes on. Yelling is not acceptable for ANY reason.
True for flying or anything else.
Talk softly as the pilot flying dives to his death, taking you along for the experience.
That's precisely what brought Avianca 052 down in 1990, while on approach to JFK. The Captain was yelling at his FO, while not monitoring the fuel situation. A very experienced Captain, ended up flying a perfectly good airplane into the ground. Total breakdown of CRM, communication, and airmanship.
Blame the captain because the fo was royalist screwing up over speeding not making call outs and can't be established before the faf? Ur aiding incompetent isntagram pilots of today
@@pilot41186 yelling in situations like these shuts down most people or there's a yelling match or worse. Both are not desirable. If the FO is not performing up to snuff.. Just say my controls.. Land the plane.. Debrief.. And tell him that he's going to write him up for some additional training... That's it. No need to exert yourself. You can take over the control, debrief and explain everything in a calm manner.. Nothing personal.. All professional.
That captain needs to find a new career.
Old school discipline doesn't apply anymore? You hurt my feelings?
been proven to cause accidents in aviation, old school discipline is bad
@@StingerGR i would assume you have never experienced being in the left seat.
@@StingerGR Show me the statistics.
@@reyd8609 I have, also served in the military and experienced a lot of old school discipline, shouting at a first officer who is potentially green just causes unnecessary stress and could cause CRM issues, potentially belittling a less experienced pilot could cause doubt in their skills and in the example of Pakistan airlines 8303, stop them from raising concerns even when the captain is being extremely unprofessional and dangerous, not to say you shouldn't tell them when they are in the wrong, absolutely should however I don't see how raising your voice in the cockpit will benefit anyone.
As an Airline Captain myself flying the 787-10 for a major European airline all i can say is …… I would NEVER scream to my F.O. ………. Never! They are just as important as the Captain and above all that we are all humans and should be respectful to each other so we can always fly as safe as possible. Sometimes i fly with an F.O. with more logged flying hours them myself so i’m always open to their advice and they are always open for mine. This Captain messed up, i was of course not in the cockpit with them but some comments here are very right ……. Sadly history learned us that a angry cockpit crew-member can be the reason for the worst things to happen.
Even the voice of the top guns in the navy become a shrill in stressful air combat situations. I guess the world has really gone woke. Raising your voice doesn't mean you are angry.
There is a saying... the more you know, the more you realize how little.
@@reyd8609I bet there is a dozen Air Crash investigation episodes where the captain is yelling at the first officer, and then the FO shuts down. Nothing to do with woke. I’ll work and have, for a superior that gets on me when I screw up, but I’m not working for an asshole.
@@reyd8609 and you seem to know everything.....
"787-10 for a major european airline" So you're a KLM pilot
The Captain needs anger management courses, he’s not perfect and neither is anyone else. Company needs to pull him off the line
almost got killed on the job
Completely agree. As a captain, you monitor, use your checklist and make necessary correction without yelling. And it’s just a go around that they should have briefed before coming to land in case there is a go around.
Poor crm
A raised voice does not make a poor crm.
"We're all counting on you"
"Just want to wish you both good luck"
stop calling me shirley
At least I have a husband.
Jim never drinks a 2nd cup of coffee at home!
Oh stewardess,I speak jive.
This would have been my late father, 110%. He meant well, and I've long ago forgiven him, but his shouting at me for every little shortcoming is probably the reason why it took me over 30 years to feel good about myself as an adult, and why I didn't make more of my life than I did (I'm currently 59).
Good grief, I feel terrible for you, sir. What a burden you've had to endure. I know exactly where you're coming from, sadly. Obviously you are a real mensch to be able to have forgiven such abuse, but the damage and heartache that you've endured has taken a toll, for sure. But you've risen far above that aspect of ugliness in your life.
Don't feel bad about what you think you've failed to achieve, either. Your empathy and good qualities are greater than anything else. Certainly greater than anything material, or any other measure of how people may determine or define "success". Continue doing good and have confidence in the good person that you obviously are.
@@7CharlesV Best reply I have read in a long time! I hope @richardkrallio3868 takes to heart your encouraging words.
Drink!
So sorry to hear that. You may find encouragement in the book "The Courage to be Disliked".
I feel you, my father was the exact same way. Shouting non stop and bsing at every minor thing. It’s almost an addiction for him, and sadly those around him suffer because of it.
I get yelled at worse than that driving to Walmart.......
Same😁
@@TheATCAudio We'll never be PIC unless we fly solo, I reckon.......
But your saving under Biden inflation ❤
😂😂😂
I haven't picked out a parking spot in 10 years
And that’s why folks he flies for AmerJet
😂😂😂😂
Yea, I agree, but do we know what he is dealing with? This new generation is really the worst workers in history, probably more interested in his cell phone!
@@kevinbrowne1278 lmao not this again. Every generation has said that the next is lazy, and yours is no exception
@@kevinbrowne1278 What? It was a going around, no reason whatsoever to be that animated about it.
@@kevinbrowne1278so let me get this straight…. in your expert opinion, this FO was scrolling on his phone during approach 🙄 Okay buddy.
How to completely obliterate cockpit resource management.
CRM requires two competent pilots, and on a heavy, two experienced competent pilots.
@@Frigate356I'm not sure why you think a widebody would require more skill. The 767 is more automated than a 737 or CRJ. Hell, not even any auto throttles on a CRJ.
@@Frigate356yes, the FO was the competent one, CA needs to retire.
That captain sounds like he drinks way too much when he's not at work.
My thought exactlyn
A lot of anger issues starts with problems at home.
@@zetareticulan321 ...as with alcohol/addiction problems, which usually follow shortly after.
When you picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
He’s a menace to everything in the air…..yes birds too.
What's your vector Victor....Roger.. what, huh?
Good captains don't let things go to crap. A good captain wouldn't be on the mike yelling either. Multi crew decks are supposed to stop this kind of stuff.
that live mike I would believe it was inadvertent as the transmit switch is in the yoke.
That’s Boeing’s job, letting things go to crap!
Yelling in a flight deck is absolutely unacceptable.
so woke.
@@reyd8609No it’s just unprofessional beyond words. Many crashes have been caused by shouting captains in the past. There’s a reason why pilots have a reputation for being calm.
@@BuddySpike101 Woke nonsense
If shouting caused crashes, then who the hell hired those pilots? Until recently they were usually ex military so presumably they can take being yelled at but if people who's former job involved other people attempting to kill them cause a crash from being yelled at then I'd say you have a shit pilot. How many people get into arguments in heavy traffic and don't kill anyone? Surely the man or woman making 6 figures flying a plane around can take a yelling.
And the reputation for being calm is from talking to passengers, you don't want 40-100 plus people freaking out when they're panic can lead to further issues or death.
@@darthbigred22 Even in the military. Flight instructors never ever shout at you when flying even the finest Navy Pilots in the 1960s never got shouted at. It’s not about being woke it’s about delivering information in a calm and controlled manner and never escalating the situation. How it works for military pilots is they will tell you a few times calmly and if you don’t do it you are out. Even when I was flying with the RAF they never shouted at me. If it ever started to go wrong they just say “I have control” and correct it then show you how to do it properly until you get it.
@@darthbigred22 You are entirely, fundamentally, comically ignorant regarding the most _basic_ principles of good CRM.🤣 Principles which long predate your apparent brain worm of a favorite political chew toy.
What I have learned is the more you yell at someone trying to learn the less they are likely to learn and the more stress you impart on them which increases load factor and leads to additional mistakes which can then compromise flight safety.
All men are born equal.... then there a few become pilots who can take a yell, a shout, or a command. The rest are just men.
any likelihood the captain making a fool of himself on frequency going to result in some retraining?
At a good air carrier, absolutely. At Amerijet, who knows. Unfortunately, due to its owner and management, Amerijet is a workplace of last resort for most people - so whether they would do anything is questionable at best.
@@bradcrosier1332 that was a non issue to pilots. It can inadvertently happen. The transmit toggle switch is in the yoke.
@@reyd8609 - I'm well aware where one of the transmit switches is. I have fifteen type ratings in various transport aircraft, including the B-757 and B-767. Now back to the actual subject: What are YOUR qualifications? Probably none, since you won't provide them.
@@bradcrosier1332 You cannot even show me your book of instruction fundamentals that says one cannot raise his voice. You say I know nothing. There is this saying... the more you know, you realize how little. I think you fall into this category of the arrogant boastful pilot. The worst of its kind. Pilots are humble. No respect.
@@reyd8609 - I’m quite humble around actual experts, and I work shoulder to shoulder with many on a weekly basis. I’m far from the greatest pilot out there, but my skills are at least average, perhaps a bit more on a good day. I’ve never busted a checkride, and have always received good critiques/comments from students, captains, first officers, check airmen, flight attendants, gate agents, maintenance technicians, line service personnel, and passengers.
I do however tam my profession quite seriously, and I take exception to dolts who pretend they have some knowledge or expertise, when in fact they possess neither.
I provided you an article from a well respected aviation organization, you’ve done both but spew feces from your ignorant, moronic mouth.
You probably are the turd from Amerijet because that’s that only dirtbag company that would hire a garbage individual such as yourself. Now sod off, loser - or provide the information to verify that you have so much as a student pilot certificate - you know nothing troll.
"...Watch Your Speed...." - Right out of Airplane! with Robert Stack yelling at Striker.....
Push a button!!! Pull a lever!!!
Watch that gauge,it’s running a little hot.
I am the first officer at different airline, Id sometime had a captain who was a complete moron and would yell at me for little stupid mistake. After reading the comments, thanks guy for making me feel better.
So yell back.
Some of the worst captains I flew with were just like this. It taught me how not to be as a captain myself.
Looks like the captain picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. Should’ve brought Timmy to the cockpit.
Maybe he's never seen a grown man naked or watched gladiator movies
below the belt remark. not funny.
He also probably picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines……and stop calling me Shirley!
As a LCA on two different aircraft during 30 years of 121 flying, my experience is the screamers are not confident in their own abilities and take it out on others. F/O’s F/A’s maintenance, gate agents etc. CRM refresher probably won’t help this guy. ☹️
EXACTLY!!! Please drop in on a few of the other comments in this thread. #Pilot41186 is either the captain involved, or at the very least thinks this is acceptable.
That’s why this dude is at Amerijet. 😂
Thank you for the huge "4K Ultra HD" in the thumbnail. I would have never been able to watch if it wasn't there.
Most underrated comment
Im confused. The anger transmission came from the same person and they said "Gear up!! Watch your speed!!! Bring the power back!!!. If FO is the one flying, wouldn't the gear up be done by the captain, the non-flying pilot?
Good point. Captain could have been flying and managing coms…only explanation that makes sense
Thought the same, very strange.
If FO is flying then he should have called it, not the Capt.
@@petros7929 We know that, that's not the issue here.
Update: it was a pilot in the jumpseat yelling. Which makes sense why he would made call outs that a PF and PM would make
The first officer was lucky to be flying with someone who was perfect. Someone who never made a mistake in his life.
I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
And stop calling me Shirley!
Luckily, it's not me.
😁
I'd make damn sure the company knew to never have me fly with that guy again
I'm old enough to remember a terrible accident just outside Heathrow, London, were the Captain kept overriding his F/O which eventually led to the loss of the aircraft and everyone on board.
It was loud in the cockpit, he had to yell…and they had head gear
Screamers and yellers are in all professions, my primary school teacher back in the 90s used to scream into our ears if we didn't listen. It's very unfortunate when they are in power and leadership positions.
Very true. And healthcare! Don’t get me started on some surgeons and anesthesiologists.
you remember it!
I imagine no one likes to fly with this captain...
I would.
I'd expect the Captain to yell at you if you needed to be told to bring the gear up and kick the power back on. That's pretty fundamental even in simulators.
Can you imagine this guy in Sully's shoes?
Ex-Military boomer captian on his 6th wife and he doesn't know how to use an iPad very well, guaranteed.
Do all of us a favor and retire.
coming from a woke?
@@reyd8609 Found the captain.
@@thesim1990😂
I'd need to see more. I assume this is more likely the modern DEI hire trainee screwing up obvious fundamentals like bringing the gear up and kicking the power back on.
And no I don't expect, from seeing the TikToks of the DEI hire pilots now, they'll be any less immoral than the military captains. They'll just blame everyone else when they eventually cause an incident judging from some of the freak-outs recently making the news.
Honestly between the Boeing scandal, the DEI hires, and flying turning into public transportation I getting this bad feeling we're going to start having a lot of crashes soon.
He obviously had a shot and failed, happens to all of us that's how you learn .In this case lives were at risk hence the passion you heard. I'm sure the captain immediately took control of the aircraft . Stop being so soft. SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO GET YELLED AT! smh!
wow. I bet the captain also probably forgot to say "positive rate" on the go
It sounds like the cap was flustered.. Why press transmit? Secondly, just say positive rate.. Gear up. Certainly no need to yell that. Thirdly on airliners, you don't pull power back on a g/a or climbs... You pitch up. So this guy was no star. I hope someone from his company gets hold of him and gives him some good crm training.. But most probably won't take. Antithesis of how a modern multi crew pilot needs to behave.
@@Bren39agree with most of what you say. You do pull power back. You are light so you don’t need all that power. And you don’t pitch up that much either.
Another problem with short tempered Captain’s is that I’ve seen many episodes of Air Disasters where the First Officer was so intimidated or fearful of criticism that he kept his mouth shut while the Captain was doing something that put the aircraft and passengers in danger. And it sometimes results in fatalities.
I agree. The FO eventually shuts down.
I find it amazing how everyone understands what's being said.
Say Bob you wanna grab some dinner for the overnight?
Not really cap. 😂
He needs a chill pill.
A dangerous little game of “who can speak the fastest “ amongst ATC personnel has been developing for some time. This often causes misunderstandings and can cost lives. It needs to stop, we don’t want to hear silly excuses of “ this is the pressure we’re under “ , if they did need to speak so fast it simply means ATC is not being properly managed and they need to take industrial action.
I'm not sure how it relates to this particular video. That's quite true though
Captain was an a-hole. Terribly handled and the passive-aggressive open transmit was the icing in the cake. What a bell-end.
Why do I feel like that was an excerpt from "Airplane!"?
Joey,do you like movies about gladiators?
Interesting. This military attitude was targeted in the industry years ago when CRM was implemented. The military had a transmitter/intercom system that the pilot would have to manage or intercom conversations would end up being transmitted to ATC. Evidence suggests this Captain was ex-military.
😂😂. I have flown multi engine heavy airplane for the military in some serious scenarios for more than 20 years
“Never seen yelling in a cockpit during that timeframe. “.
@@nacholens3228 Hence the phrase “years ago”.
When I was learning to fly I had a lesson with an instructor who was shouting at me through the whole lesson. When the lesson was over I reported him. I never saw him again.
When i anticipate that the aproach is going to be screwed i just tell my co-pilots to anticipate a go around (it gives them time to mentally brief what we are about to do) no surprises, no forgetting to raise the gear, you would be surprised how many go arounds are performed like a clown show because the crew is caught by surprise
You think that was bad, you should hear my wife.
F/O probably had a lot of “Parker pen” flight time and the captain forgot to take his Xanax that morning.
Yelling like gas is coming out of his pocket. What a clown.
"Bring the Power back" In a stressful situation those words could be misconstrued. Do I reduced power or increase power?
This aviation is terminology and procedure.
That captain about to miss his Uber 😂
Roger, Roger. What’s our vector, Victor?
I don’t know….but Leon’s getting larger!
@@judymarlene3414 Lieutenant Hurwitz. Severe shell shock. Thinks he’s Ethel Merman.
@@jackmeyhoffer5107 One of the more underrated scenes in that movie but I absolutely loved her cameo!
Please try to be original. Quoting from the movie "Airplane" is tiresome. Just sayin'....be original.
Looks like somebody picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue😅😅😅😅😅😅😅!
EWR TOWER: 880 roger, showing three greens on the tower.
I've heard when one is task saturated, one loses the ability to hear, and it may be necessary for someone to jar one out of a fugue state. While it may not be the case here, those of us who weren't on the flight deck can't know what was happening and why.
If the FO is performing really bad, is it hard to say "I have the aircraft" while taking over the controls? If they crash because of the FO, the captain might also get faulted for not taking control when he had the chance.
I've only flown with one Jerk like this in my life....Unfortunately for me, he was an FAA examiner (DPE).
He was hell to fly with......and then he passed me! 😄 It's funny NOW!
I love how people are calling for his career after hearing 3 sentence fragments.
“Bid avoid”
Captain happy needs to switch to decaf
Well, an excited "GEAR UP!" is probably better than, "GEAR DOWN!! GEAR DOWN!!"
Samir you are breaking the plane ! Listen to my calls !! Triple caution !!!
Too Many Arm-Chair Quarterbacks here! There is much more to the this story!
The behavior of that Captain was completely uncalled for.
Scary part is he’s probably check captain
Exactly
In this woke world, you cannot raise your voice anymore to instill discipline?
@@reyd8609 not in the flight deck, captain Bligh. Save it till you’re at the gate.
You must be a favourite to work with.
@@Treetopflyer777 You do not just take over in a high stress go around situation, you will not do the FO a favour. Know your limits. Finish through the standard crew resource management go-around procedures and command with a loud voice to wake up the disoriented FO what he is missing and let him correct it, which was what the Captain did. You cannot baby talk the FO if he froze. Tell him what to do and he will learn. It was safe enough not to take over the controls. If the Captain did take over, he will traumatize the FO and the FO won't learn anything. The flight instructors have a high threshold of tolerance before taking over the controls. The Captain was cool as you would know it in his voice when he communicated with ATC. A go-around in a highly busy airport are one of the more aggressive situations in a pilot's life.
@@reyd8609 ummm….
I’ve been a pilot for 35 years. Was involved in training for almost 25 years. I vehemently disagree with much of what you have to say. And that’s all I have to say about that.
That company needs to fire this captain ASAP….. that is not the way, never ever.
This Captain is nothing short of a hazard to all.
I've never had a supervisor (or anyone else, for that matter) yell at me like that. I'm not saying it won't happen but it will only happen once.
So fragile. Why would it only happen once, do tell.
@@riggitydoo5116tough guy in the comments, huh
@@rsybing Someone that requires certain standards of behavior.
Absolutely! Find a different job or you will be miserable
@@rsybing 😀
Sounds like the FO was mentally 1 mile behind the aircraft.
Yes it does, but the captain's reaction is not helping him catch up one bit.
"Samir, you're breaking the plane!"
That says more about the captain than the FO. Couldn’t imagine a situation where I would loose my cool like that
There's a chance it's not the captain but rather a joker near the airport with a radio. Why would a captain key the mike just when he said those things?
He should be sent on anger management or revoke his licence.. There is no place for that during flying passangers.
They fly cargo but no reason to yell. Captain needed to take over and teach. 😊Captain is there to help not yell. CRM at its worst.
a raised voice is ok.
There was no anger. Raising your voice is not anger. Can't believe all this hype about yelling.
All he had to say was “my controls”
What happened to CRM?!🤔😬
The comments here are hilarious. Tells one much about today’s crumbling society.
“Today’s Crumbling Society.” That was brilliant, Scott. Truly brilliant.
@@dma124 I hope folks understood what I meant by the remark!
@@Scott767300 I know. You spoke a universal truth, my friend.
In his defense, I bet the fo was a DEI forced hire
^There it is. Didn't take long to find this comment.^
Don’t yell at the poor baby. It might hurt his grown ass feelings.
Mountain out of a molehill....
Exactly. Planes can fly a few seconds w the extra drag. And he knows where the lever is.
They need assertive Capt’s, there’s no point in saying after an event “sorry, I didn’t want to hurt the FO’s feelings”
And when that “assertive” captain makes a mistake himself later, and the first officer doesn’t speak up because he’s been browbeaten into silence, and so the plane crashes? I mean that is seriously how numerous major crashes have happened. I get reacting urgently in an important moment, but there are good and bad ways to do that.
Captain would’ve been monitoring all along and known way before that they were not established, he could have called this way earlier and much more calmly.
@@Wolfeson28 I can't even describe how right you are!
Right you can be stern without causing more stress. Ive heard crash VR less aggressive.
@the_bloke, how much cockpit time do you have in the crew environment?
Thank god this will never get back to the airline
I've seen too many instructors yell at their students. Yelling has no place in the cockpit. One of my friends was yelled at during a stage check by an examiner. He then looked at the examiner in the plane and said, "this is very unprofessional and I do not feel safe flying with you." This is true, everything on the flight deck needs to be calm and professional.
When there are two professional people piloting a heavy aircraft like Boeing 767, both of them deserve respect. No matter if you are a captain or a first officer😏🤷
Guy was having flashbacks of Macho Grande.
Over Macho Grande?
Makes no sense….If the FO is flying why is the CA yelling at him to bring the gear up?
I think the FO forgot to give the command "gear up". The Captain was just reminding the FO loudly of the procedure, so the Captain will physically put the gear level up. The Captain wanted to follow through with the standard go-around procedures.
Did he wake up just in taht moment?
Can someone explain what happened? So is the "captain" giving instruction to the guy flying the aircraft? In plain English, what is he telling him to do?
An airplane, Amerijet 880 Heavy (weighted over 300,000 pounds, 136 tonns, at takeoff) was cleared to land on a runway at Newark. The crew of Amerijet 880 decided not to land, "something" was not right,/safe/good and executed/flew a "go around". During the resulting "go around" one pilot inadvertently transmitted what was supposed to be a communication between the two pilots during the "go around". From the tone, intensity and volume of the voice saying: "gear up", "watch your speed" and "bring the power back" it is obvious that the communication was less than optimal or effective. We are listening to one side of a conversation where this pilot crew of two pilots are not working well together.
"Gear up" means to move the handle/switch that commands the aircraft's hydraulic/electrical system to raise the landing gear, wheels, back up and stow them inside the aircraft's body from being down and locked and positioned for landing. Just like a normal takeoff, after a go around, the landing gear, wheels, are raised and stowed to make the airplane more aerodynamically efficient.
"Watch your speed" means one pilot was unhappy with the jet's speed and trend in which the speed was going. It is not clear which problem he had; whether the jet was too fast or too slow from what the "correct" speed should have been.
"Bring the power back" means the one pilot is commanding, in this case yelling at the other pilot, to take some specific action with the throttles. As others in the comment section have noted the command is ambiguous and could be interpreted either way. If the jet was flying too fast for the position of the gear and flaps then "bring the power back" would mean reduce the throttle setting by physically moving them backward thereby reducing thrust in an effort to slow the aircraft. If the aircraft was slow and getting even slower, dangerously slow, then "bring the power back" would mean to reestablish more power/thrust by moving the throttles forward towards to/towards the maximum thrust position.
We are not positive which pilot is yelling, we are speculating. Most commentators believe it is the Captain yelling at the First Officer, they are probably correct. It could be a confident First Officer yelling at a poorly performing Captain. It could be a training flight where the instructor could occupy either seat. We do not know for sure. One pilot is unhappy and "barking commands" at the other pilot. Most everything else (boomer pilot who should retire/ DEI hire/incompetent snowflake-whatever else) is speculation and "projection" of personal bias.
Hope that explanation helps.
Sounds like a wonderful work culture in that cockpit.
I don’t like it when people get excited in the cockpit but we don’t know the whole story. Sounds like the PF did a go around without the automation and the PM didn’t like it. If the PF wasn’t in control of the airplane, the PM was right to command him - albeit his delivery was rough. From not being established on the approach to doing a hand flown missed, sounds like he had trouble commanding the aircraft.
Why did the captain find it necessary broadcast the outburst...only way we would have been able to hear the conversation is if someone in the cockpit pushed the PTT button
Interesting that the pilot flying is also managing the radios? What is the captain doing besides yelling?
this guy has absolutely no business being a captain.
I'm confused. Typically the Pilot Flying, flies the airplane and the Pilot Monitoring will do the radios and other things like swinging gear... So if that was the captain talking on the radio, why is he yelling at the first officer about the landing gear and speed? "Gear up", "watch your speed", and "bring the power back" There's a lot of conflicting chatter there.
@ExercitusGymnasticus Not on the radio...