REAL ATC | Mayday mayday mayday, we have fire on board. FedeEX DC10

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2022
  • 07 JUN 2022
    An a FedEx MD10 registration N306FE performed flight FDX463 from
    Sacramento International Airport (KSMF/SMF) to Memphis International Airport (KMEM/MEM). Flies through northern Oklahoma, the crew contacts Kansas City Air Traffic Control Center (ZKC ARTCC) and declared - the aircraft's systems are reporting a fire on board.
    The crew elects to begin an emergency descent and diversion to Tulsa (KTUL/TUL). Emergency crews at the airport are scrambled and air traffic controllers work to bring the flaming aircraft down.
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  • @Pissedoffdetective
    @Pissedoffdetective Рік тому +488

    Fun Fact... After reading a few reports on this, it turns out a crate full of Live Ladybugs split open, and they swarmed several smoke detectors, and triggered the heat detector as well. So glad they have such sensitive ones!!

    • @sidneyfinn3582
      @sidneyfinn3582 Рік тому +4

      😢😢

    • @julianbrelsford
      @julianbrelsford Рік тому +50

      I deliver packages for one of FedEx's competitors (on the ground); we get packages with live bugs/insects from time to time. I've never had one split open on me, but they have a distinctive smell that triggers my allergies a bit.

    • @tyleremmetts5937
      @tyleremmetts5937 11 місяців тому +32

      And where was this info… I read the complete opposite. Fire services put an active fire out upon their landing. Nothing about ladybugs lol

    • @grog2534
      @grog2534 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@julianbrelsfordwhat sorts of things are shipments of insects used for. All I can think of is game shows or insect repopulation?

    • @jonathandufault2099
      @jonathandufault2099 11 місяців тому +46

      ​@@tyleremmetts5937no the ladybugs were flying the plane. The captain broke loose and declared an emergency

  • @intrepid_wandering
    @intrepid_wandering Рік тому +173

    Some historic accidents have occurred from pilots not taking fire indications seriously or acting too late. So it was nice to see them take this one seriously and not waste time. Great work all around.

  • @namesolonggood1sgone
    @namesolonggood1sgone Рік тому +924

    Fun fact: this a/c, N306FE, was the same a/c involved in the FDX705 incident from 1994 when Auburn R. Calloway attacked the flight crew with hammers and other blunt objects. As of November, 2022 it appears to still be at work for FedEx.

    • @CMSounds18
      @CMSounds18 Рік тому +199

      After those two incidents, I would NOT want to be a pilot assigned to fly this a/c… that’s some bad juju.

    • @thecardczar8764
      @thecardczar8764 Рік тому +80

      Wow, fascinating observation! I just rewatched the Mayday recreation of that a couple of days ago, amazing that the maneuvers that were done on that day left the aircraft fit to fly over a quarter century later!

    • @wrxpilot
      @wrxpilot Рік тому +155

      @@CMSounds18 One could also say that this plane saved those pilots during that incident, and is a charmed aircraft.

    • @emac5738
      @emac5738 Рік тому

      I think they should just retire this bird

    • @pete6849
      @pete6849 Рік тому +13

      It was at EWR Saturday night, soon retired in January…

  • @gerardmoran9560
    @gerardmoran9560 Рік тому +433

    Great job by all. The initial controller (hi-sector) made a lot of phone calls to ease the crew's workload. They skipped talking to the low-sector and went straight to TUL approach. The approach controller understood the need for a quick recovery while recognizing the need for energy management during a slam-dunk arrival.

    • @ianm408
      @ianm408 Рік тому +20

      He did a great job. Here in the UK we train to avoid giving direct to places as this puts workload on the crew. A vector/heading with a distance to the field is our modus operandi.

    • @nod2009
      @nod2009 Рік тому +44

      ​@@ianm408another thing that seems better in Europe is how you about frequency changes. In the US, the emergency a/c has to change frequencies all the time, like a normal flight.
      In many European emergencies, ATC gives a discrete frequency for that plane and all the ATCs that need to handle that a/c tune on that frequency.
      One more thing taken off the shoulders of the crew.

    • @ianm408
      @ianm408 Рік тому +5

      @@nod2009 in the UK it's possible for the emergency aircraft to stay on one frequency until it reaches the airfield. That's assuming it can stay in range of the transmitter for that frequency.
      Unfortunately, when the aircraft needs to be transferred to approach control it would need to change frequency.
      Where a pilot is unable to change frequency due to equipment failure then instructions could be relayed from the correct controller, but transmission range could still be a problem.

    • @charlescahlmk
      @charlescahlmk Рік тому +3

      @@ianm408 The controller actually says "descend and maintain FL240" (@1:07) so I think that's pretty clear?

    • @ianm408
      @ianm408 Рік тому

      @@charlescahlmk he does. I must have missed it the first time. I've suitably amended my post.

  • @carlsavage614
    @carlsavage614 Рік тому +446

    The term "ice water in veins" comes to mind. To remain that calm whilst on fire and performing an emergency descent is incredible. Hats off to ATC as well for matching the calm and professionalism.

    • @Tom-90210
      @Tom-90210 Рік тому +10

      What we train for.

    • @bardo0007
      @bardo0007 Рік тому +8

      It's just a part of the job.

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Рік тому +4

      In aviation you get terrified once in a while, usually during the first few years. Once you overcome these frights then things that happen later in your career, usually in larger and more capable aircraft, don’t seem to daunting.

    • @chhansen9813
      @chhansen9813 Рік тому +5

      What are they suppose to do, start balling so nobody can understand what theyre saying? WTF

    • @ZantherStone
      @ZantherStone Рік тому +2

      It I mean not much other choice. Also, it's not like the whole plane is on fire and they're breathing in smoke and engines failing. They got a warning signal on so decided to land quickly... I mean they did well, but not like they were under fire or something

  • @fastica
    @fastica Рік тому +18

    6:03 there’s a sign of relief in his voice.

  • @davek12
    @davek12 Рік тому +276

    N306FE is being retired 12/31/22. It was previously a part of the hijacking event in 1994, and I was surprised that it was still flying.

    • @tomjohnson3976
      @tomjohnson3976 Рік тому +5

      where did you get that retirement date?

    • @jt1364
      @jt1364 Рік тому +5

      @@tomjohnson3976 Just Google it. The info is out there that it will be retired by the end of this year.

    • @adambell2068
      @adambell2068 Рік тому +7

      Was originally slated to have been retired in 2018.

    • @bilbobaggins3389
      @bilbobaggins3389 Рік тому +2

      It's cursed.

    • @9foxgrl15
      @9foxgrl15 Рік тому +2

      I’m surprised it’s still air worthy.

  • @janwalters3426
    @janwalters3426 Рік тому +65

    What professionalism by all involved! To remain calm is an amazing feat

  • @privatepilot4064
    @privatepilot4064 Рік тому +24

    A good example of the system working like it was designed to, and being able to bring it all to a positive conclusion.

  • @edstoro3883
    @edstoro3883 Рік тому +22

    Great work guys. For the general public....of all the aircraft that have had a fire on board, no one lasted beyond 30 minutes. Thus the haste to get down. (The Swiss air flight went over the 30 min. alas.) The 'Burn Bag" being one of the only hope in this day of lithium batteries. The FedEx 'Stewart, N.Y.' burn was a similar get down inside of 30 min. Aircraft destroyed. This crew did an outstanding job, making it seem almost normal. Proud of ya!!!

  • @DeBedschbacher
    @DeBedschbacher Рік тому +165

    I could never be a pilot. Without the subtitles I honestly understand half of everything that is being said.

    • @DISOPtv
      @DISOPtv Рік тому +34

      You get used to it with practice mostly.

    • @othername1000
      @othername1000 Рік тому +62

      Close your eyes and practice
      ETA: most of this type of audio is coming off of scanners that may not be in a good location relative to the transmissions. Notice the ground transmissions are awful on this recording, but the tower and the airplane are closest with a clear line of sight. They're not hearing what we're hearing. It's our reception that is bad.

    • @stuckels
      @stuckels Рік тому +34

      It's not so much about hearing exactly what they're saying. You get to the point where you already know what's coming and you just fill in the blanks with the few numbers they give you.

    • @adamleverson8329
      @adamleverson8329 Рік тому +22

      It sounds much better on the actual ship.

    • @ffemtx47
      @ffemtx47 Рік тому +10

      I'm assuming that the OP is referencing how ATC's instructions come flying at pilot's ears at the speed of light. Vital stuff can get missed by a recreational pilot (me) if you don't ask them to S L O W L Y repeat their directives. It can be frustrating. On both ends. I NEED the info. They NEED to keep a hundred other AC safe at that same moment. However, professional pilots are "tuned in" to all the conversations. I have civies ask me how the hell I understand what Dispatch is saying on my portable radio while on scenes all the time. After years of hearing the constant chirping you can pretty much pick up (through the "corner" of your ear) info that you need without really listening. Stuckels8 is correct.

  • @10thmt87
    @10thmt87 Рік тому +176

    Looking at the flight data (flightradar24) their decent was over -6,528 fpm at one point. almost 75 mph (down)vertical controlled dive. Impressive bird will do what it needs to do when their butts are on fire. (Back in the air two days later and still flying today)

    • @wolphin732
      @wolphin732 Рік тому +15

      It was also a cargo plane, so not one with a whole plane of people in that rollercoaster dive

    • @lukeorlando4814
      @lukeorlando4814 Рік тому +37

      @@wolphin732 reading other comments that’s nothing for this plane. This individual aircraft had been well and truly tested during a hijacking attempt in 94. I’m reading it was previously Upside down and almost broke the sound barrier.

    • @schabowyBar
      @schabowyBar Рік тому +6

      and still flying today - unfortunately not anymore

    • @squares4u
      @squares4u Рік тому +5

      @@lukeorlando4814 True but that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to put the aircraft through anything close to that again

    • @lukeorlando4814
      @lukeorlando4814 Рік тому +5

      @@squares4u but what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger so this plane must be immortal

  • @xyz321123
    @xyz321123 Рік тому +92

    If you are familiar with Swiss Air 111 you will understand how important it is to continue descending. In a real fire nothing will save you but getting on the ground asap.

    • @barrierefreies.trinken
      @barrierefreies.trinken Рік тому

      Do u know on 10.08.98 3 cabine crewmembers have taste of fire for short time in there nose? On the accident airplane?
      111 is the reason why fire ore smoke = asap

    • @asdf3568
      @asdf3568 Рік тому

      yeah and they were worried about dumping fuel

    • @TheGreyAreaBetween
      @TheGreyAreaBetween Рік тому +2

      The case of UPS flight 6 was so painfully close to landing despite near zero visibility through the smoke. That really showed the danger of lithium batteries

    • @GG-cn6es
      @GG-cn6es Місяць тому

      @@barrierefreies.trinken 😂 Taste of fire in nose is called a smell

  • @AEMoreira81
    @AEMoreira81 Рік тому +88

    That is the same plane involved in the Federal Express Flight 705 hijacking all those years ago. This plane should be preserved in a museum someday.

    • @TheAlaska07
      @TheAlaska07 Рік тому

      That flight engineer should have had attempted mass murder charges brought against him.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 Рік тому +3

      Friend of mine who's an airplane mechanic at FedEx told me about that one.
      Damn shame to see something else bad happen to that old horse.

    • @feraxks
      @feraxks Рік тому

      @@TheAlaska07 Well he did receive two consecutive life sentences.

    • @TheAlaska07
      @TheAlaska07 Рік тому

      @@feraxks I read awhile back where he was appealing and trying to get a new trial.

    • @feraxks
      @feraxks Рік тому +1

      @@TheAlaska07 That would suck if it actually happens.

  • @NeonDreams7
    @NeonDreams7 Рік тому +122

    I went to look up N306FE and wow, it was involved in a 1994 attempted hijacking as Fedex flight 705 with a rather interesting story on wikipedia.

    • @slappymcgillicuddy7532
      @slappymcgillicuddy7532 Рік тому +19

      that was absolutely insane, they flew that heavy inverted to throw the attacker off.

    • @jamessimms415
      @jamessimms415 Рік тому +8

      Sadly when the time comes, the airframe won’t be saved.

    • @AnnualDegree99
      @AnnualDegree99 Рік тому +8

      Wow it's the same a/c? Damn.

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 Рік тому +5

      That plane was flown upside down at one point. There were bloody footprints on the roof of the jet.

    • @Beauty-and-the-Dia-betes
      @Beauty-and-the-Dia-betes Рік тому +5

      Didn’t Air Crash Investigation dedicate an episode to that incident?

  • @Nobilangelo
    @Nobilangelo Рік тому +5

    They make it sound like just another day at the flaming office...

  • @henryhbk
    @henryhbk Рік тому +63

    Pro-tip remember to turn off the propane grill before shipping it via fedex! Excellent job by all.

  • @jennifera4350
    @jennifera4350 5 місяців тому +1

    Smoothly and efficiently handled by the pilot. great Job.

  • @woofolliesmydog8628
    @woofolliesmydog8628 6 місяців тому +1

    Whatever air traffic controllers get paid, it’s not enough!
    So calm. Unbelievable.

  • @paulp96275
    @paulp96275 Рік тому +8

    Cool fanbloodytastic bit of professionalism by pilot ,crew and great ground staff 👍👨🏻‍🏭🇬🇧

  • @larrywardell2459
    @larrywardell2459 Рік тому +9

    Not quite so serious…..but it was for the pilot at the time……our flight to Florida Melbourne in September, some guy thought it was a good idea to vape in the toilets. All the fire alarms went off and cabin crew rushed to deal with the “fire”. The Captain just gets a fire warning in the cockpit, and (as he announced after) starts looking for the best place to land……we were mid Atlantic. He was extremely annoyed, and said his heart rate had increased by a lot! Not sure what action was taken with the culprit, but this is the first time I’ve experienced anything like this. The whole crew were obviously on the ball, and I congratulate them for that.

    • @adde9506
      @adde9506 Рік тому +6

      Smoking in the lavs is a felony. I imagine this person will be continuing their stupid habit in federal lockup.

  • @mapleext
    @mapleext Рік тому +1

    You listen to this and by the tone of the voices it sounds so routine. Amazing!

    • @Rat-Builder
      @Rat-Builder Рік тому +1

      There is a video of a girl on her first solo that had one of her landing gear wheels fall off after take-off. The tower informed her that one wheel had fallen off. She was sort of calm, but it was obvious she was quite scared. I mean, who would not be? She was talking to the tower, and circling while they were trying to get ahold of her Instructor. They finely located him, and as he talked to her you could actually hear it in her voice, how he had such a calming effect on her. She landed the aircraft just like a pro, and it only did a small amount of damage to one end of the wing that was on the ground.
      I always wondered if she is still flying. I would ride, with her as the pilot, without question. Although she was scared, she still continued to "fly the airplane!" I know people that would freak-out over much less.

  • @joebledsoe257
    @joebledsoe257 Рік тому +1

    I worked for MEM and watched that bird land during the Callaway incident. My truck would not start and was busy dealing with that. No clue what was going on. Just another airplane with problems at landing. Found out on the news that night what had happened. WOW!!

  • @davetaylor2409
    @davetaylor2409 Рік тому +21

    asn says it was a false indication of fire; instead, it was a “ladybug infestation”.

  • @nathanielneveryman
    @nathanielneveryman Рік тому +31

    It would be interesting to see a clock run in the corner or something with how long from start to landing...

    • @Kitt_the_Katt
      @Kitt_the_Katt 6 місяців тому

      The progress bar at the bottom of can be used as a timer

  • @gorgeouscfso
    @gorgeouscfso Рік тому +30

    N306FE is scheduled to be the final MD-10 retired by FedEx on December 31st, 2022. I guess the retirement comes early now.

    • @Wheninflight
      @Wheninflight Рік тому +4

      N306FE is still flying around at MEM currently. It looks like whatever damages there were had been repaired.

    • @davek12
      @davek12 Рік тому +9

      @@Wheninflight There was no damage, and no fire. They had ladybugs on board, which escaped and caused a false alarm for the cargo area fire.

    • @wolphin732
      @wolphin732 Рік тому +1

      @@davek12 bright red bugs.... hahahaha :) now that is a funny part... and would have had everyone laughing in relief

  • @brianpeace7585
    @brianpeace7585 Рік тому +8

    I sure hope they find a musuem for this bird and not the scrap yard it deserves a better fate.

  • @russv4753
    @russv4753 Рік тому +20

    I would love @74Gear to talk about this video. Always enjoy hearing him break things down

    • @barbaraperry5023
      @barbaraperry5023 Рік тому +7

      Mentour Pilot, as well

    • @russv4753
      @russv4753 Рік тому

      @@barbaraperry5023 I agree

    • @Belchmaster41
      @Belchmaster41 Рік тому

      @@barbaraperry5023 I recommend reporting Mentour Pilot and other channels for spam because you don't know what he's even going on about

  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414
    @thedevilinthecircuit1414 Рік тому +22

    Real ATC, this is a respected channel. Nowhere in the recorded comms here does the crew declare "MAYDAY." I come here because this is instructive information, and clickbait titles demean your credibility.

    • @jaywhoisit4863
      @jaywhoisit4863 Рік тому +6

      Declaring an emergency, squawking the code, or saying Mayday are all the same thing!

    • @HitomiNee
      @HitomiNee Рік тому +6

      @@jaywhoisit4863 They may mean the same thing, but the feeling and impact of saying/hearing mayday, as opposed to "Were declaring an emergency" doesn't quite have the same urgency.

    • @lottiestanley7696
      @lottiestanley7696 Рік тому

      @@HitomiNee They’re also covering protocol by using ‘We are declaring an emergency!’, I believe.

    • @Vulpix298
      @Vulpix298 Рік тому +3

      @@jaywhoisit4863 no they don’t mean the same thing. Mayday is an official call sign. “Emergency” is not. There are regulations around this stuff for a reason.

    • @ariellekieran
      @ariellekieran 8 місяців тому +1

      I kept waiting for it! Can’t believe I had to scroll this far to find this comment. Misleading

  • @graemecox6502
    @graemecox6502 8 місяців тому

    True professionals

  • @gabriellemeadows1675
    @gabriellemeadows1675 5 місяців тому

    When passengers moan about weather etc etc due to delays I always think back to videos I watch on here and have a new appreciation of what could be happening in the sky or why we are delayed for 12 hours.

  • @garyking6365
    @garyking6365 8 місяців тому +1

    Can't believe they sent him around again. Just clear the runway

  • @pete6849
    @pete6849 Рік тому +4

    306 is the Calaway cruiser. It was ladybugs I recall…..

  • @RiftWalker111
    @RiftWalker111 Рік тому +1

    Huh, this plane has seen some action in its life, Its all coming together haha.

  • @truth8483
    @truth8483 Рік тому +3

    I love that he calls them "souls." God bless you gentlemen. Living souls! 🙌

    • @Mrclean431
      @Mrclean431 Рік тому +2

      Standard practice

    • @truth8483
      @truth8483 Рік тому

      @@Mrclean431 cool!

    • @MrThisIsMeToo
      @MrThisIsMeToo Рік тому +2

      You must be new?

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic Рік тому +1

      It's just a hang over term. It's not like adnults really believe in a man in the sky. They're to busy doing human work.

    • @truth8483
      @truth8483 Рік тому +1

      @@morbidmanmusic oh really? Well this internal medicine physician who is very "adult," and extremely well studied in the natural sciences, ranging from cell and developmental biology, microbiology, genetics , oncology, physiology,immunology, evolutionary biology, biochemistry, organic chemistry, immunology, pathology, pharmocology, the list goes on and on, as well as being well studied on physics and math, having indulged in linear algebra for fun, and who computer programs as a hobby, and follows most recent advancements and studies in quantum physics, who does "human work" on a more than daily basis, including caring for the sick and dying during a pandemic and raising children, is fully convincedof the "man in the sky."

  • @kparkslpnful
    @kparkslpnful Рік тому +1

    I have never realized how tiny our airport is compared to some like Phoenix and Denver. 😂

  • @chrisc395
    @chrisc395 Рік тому +1

    LOL a ladybug infestation caused my package to be late???

  • @PHX787
    @PHX787 Рік тому +2

    this plane was also the victim of a hijacking. Lots of history in this bird.

  • @StormFanatic210
    @StormFanatic210 9 місяців тому +2

    This was the same Plane involved in the high profile FedEx 705 attempted hijacking by a disgruntled employee that was about to be let go. The incident I’m covering involved N306FE back in 1994. N306FE is the Aircraft in this Video.

  • @jackio46
    @jackio46 Рік тому

    So that is what happened to my missing FEDEX package! LOL

  • @BuckFudweiser
    @BuckFudweiser Рік тому +4

    I wish there were a video from the ATC tower of the planes approach.

  • @MattSwinden
    @MattSwinden Рік тому +2

    As stated in the comments - "...and air traffic controllers work to bring the flaming aircraft down." The aircraft was NEVER on fire. So why the sensationalism in the Title and comment section.

  • @dondash8921
    @dondash8921 Рік тому

    Must be so scary getting that alarm.

  • @wwaynemcg
    @wwaynemcg Рік тому

    Good thing they weren't blazing on fire, sure took a long time to loop down.

  • @victorbasta7359
    @victorbasta7359 Рік тому +86

    Another case of amazing calm and professionalism displayed by the flight crew considering their aircraft may have been on fire. Great job by ATC also. Curious to know if there was a fire or just faulty sensors.

    • @jemand8462
      @jemand8462 Рік тому +22

      The pilots evacuated because of a "heat signature" - I guess that's info from the fire trucks looking at the plane through IR goggles, so in fact it was on fire.

    • @df446
      @df446 Рік тому +6

      @@jemand8462 A fire is not the only thing that can create an IR heat signature.

    • @derheeheehee6941
      @derheeheehee6941 Рік тому +10

      I looked it up it was a ladybug infestation that gave a false indication

    • @davidewersphotography1013
      @davidewersphotography1013 Рік тому +41

      there was a fire:
      A Fedex Federal Express McDonnell Douglas MD-10, registration N306FE performing flight FX-463 from Sacramento,CA to Memphis,TN (USA) with 3 crew, was enroute at FL310 about 40nm northwest of Tulsa,OK (USA) when the crew decided to divert to Tulsa due to a fire indication in the cargo bay. On approach the crew reported they now got an additional cargo fire alert in the aft cargo area. The crew requested runway 18L and landed safely about 18 minutes after leaving FL310. Tower reported seeing no smoke from the aircraft. Emergency services reported a heat signature prompting the crew to evacuate the aircraft. Both runways at Tulsa were closed for about 30 minutes while emergency services put the fire out.
      Tower advised other aircraft on approach that the airport was closed to an evacuation on the runway, the Fedex aircraft was actually on fire.
      Tulsa Fire Department reported the crew evacuated safely, both runways were closed for about 30 minutes. The aircraft was towed to the cargo apron soon after the fire was put out. A number of aircraft decided to divert as result.
      The occurrence aircraft is still on the ground about 19 hours after landing.

    • @jemand8462
      @jemand8462 Рік тому +26

      @@df446 well, of course not, it could also be a nuclear weapon, a star exploding, 1000 IR LEDs... but if there's multiple fire indications (which probably detect either smoke or CO or both) AND the firefighters see a heat signature, the by far most probably cause is in fact a fire.
      If you hear horses, it's probably horses, not zebras.

  • @fozzywxman
    @fozzywxman Рік тому +4

    Well, that probably explains the delay notice of my Amazon order... 🤪

    • @dlbstl
      @dlbstl Рік тому

      FedEx doesn't ship Amazon packages.

    • @Belchmaster41
      @Belchmaster41 Рік тому

      yes they do for international orders. Carriers are assigned depending on the destination country

  • @kylenielsen5341
    @kylenielsen5341 Рік тому +1

    Those dang lithium batteries.

  • @bobl78
    @bobl78 Рік тому

    what do they mean with a heat signature ? Was there a fire in the cargo bay or was it a false alarm ?

  • @wvhillbille9458
    @wvhillbille9458 Рік тому +15

    Awesome job of the pilots, you would think that in aviation the radios would be better without all the static.

    • @ai4px
      @ai4px Рік тому +2

      AM radio is entrenched.

    • @cyberfunk3793
      @cyberfunk3793 Рік тому +2

      I was thinking the same, but the voice from the aircraft was clear so maybe the problem was with the receiver who records these? Maybe the party doing the recording had a short antenna or something like that even though the airplane was able to hear the atc fine.

    • @Mike-oz4cv
      @Mike-oz4cv Рік тому

      Yes I’m always appalled by the analog radio. You’d also think that they’d get stuff like ground level air pressure automatically over some kind of digital radio.

    • @adde9506
      @adde9506 Рік тому

      @@Mike-oz4cv station pressure is constantly changing. There is an automatic system that constantly transmits on a different band, but ATC repeats station pressure specifically because it is one of the few bits of information that could actually crash an airplane.

    • @Augownage
      @Augownage Рік тому +12

      These recordings often are made by people who live near the airport and just have a recording/stream running 24/7. The pilots and ATC usually have much clearer audio than the antennas that are often set up in people's back yard. If you note, once the aircraft lands, the audio from the aircraft is almost all static. This is because the recording was not actually made at the tower, but somewhere nearby instead. The tower likely had perfect reception since they have direct line of sight to the aircraft on the ground and are very close.

  • @randywilliams4325
    @randywilliams4325 Рік тому +19

    I am surprised they don’t have Halon fire systems in the cargo area

    • @RobtheAviator
      @RobtheAviator Рік тому +13

      FedEx Express has some of the most advanced fire suppressant systems available. There are probes on rails on the cargo holds ceilings which will puncture into a cargo can and fill it with fire suppressant. It’s really quite amazing.

    • @Bartmanfly
      @Bartmanfly Рік тому +6

      Lower cargo hold has a fire suppression system. Only the MD11 has the main deck suppression system described by Rob

    • @JohnDoe-bd5sz
      @JohnDoe-bd5sz Рік тому +11

      Not all fires can be put out with fire suppressant systems.
      Lithium batteries is one example

    • @ModernCam16
      @ModernCam16 Рік тому

      @@JohnDoe-bd5sz they have special areas in those planes for them with those types of chemicals to get them out

  • @pingpongpung
    @pingpongpung Рік тому +3

    Here before the title gets corrected from "FedeEX" to "FedEx".

  • @kimc7699
    @kimc7699 Рік тому +1

    This is why carrying freight is a hazardous business.

  • @robertATC60
    @robertATC60 Рік тому

    My friend and great controller worked a fire on board Fedex DC10 into SWF airport yrs ago.

    • @robertATC60
      @robertATC60 Рік тому

      It burned up quickly after landing

  • @edsmith6504
    @edsmith6504 Рік тому +1

    So was it burning, or just false alarm?

  • @nrdalrt15
    @nrdalrt15 11 місяців тому

    Dont they have fire suppression in the cargo hold? Also, can the pilots depressurize the cargo hold to starve the fire of oxygen?

  • @majorhawker4776
    @majorhawker4776 Рік тому

    For all you pilots, and such, I have a question. Why is there no Halon system onboard Cargo Planes?

  • @crooked-halo
    @crooked-halo Рік тому

    Superb video! I have a comm cert & inst rating but only fly GA. I'd rather descend at my discretion to enroute minimum altitudes (MEA). That flight north with a turn to final was too far for my comfort level, but is normal for a jet, I've learned. In a burning Cessna I'm landing in a field, unless I burn first! If an engine fire, I was taught to increase airspeed to attempt extinguishing. ATC did a superb job. I've edited this comment after learning of my ignorance concerning large, heavy jetliner procedures. Everything done by the crew, and ATC, was perfect for the emergent situation at hand. Man, fire on board is terrifying!

    • @Turrbo10
      @Turrbo10 Рік тому +17

      The actions you described are perfect for light aircraft, but might be worth listening again to what ATC actually cleared them for.
      Initial descent clearance was to 240 then 180 then 160 all without being prompted by the crew for further desc. (imagine how many potentially conflicting aircraft were at lower levels this close to Tulsa) Tracking clearance was “cleared right turn ‘direct’ Tulsa intl” then once crew readback ATC immediately asked “ Would you like a certain heading to get you into Tulsa”
      Crew also declared an emergency on initial contact with centre and never downgraded to an urgency, meaning they knew they could have asked for or done whatever they needed to get down asap. ATC would simply have made it work for them.
      Unsure exactly their cruising level when they got the warning, but even from initial desc clearance of 24k they likely needed those northerly track miles to get down to a reasonable intercept altitude and fly a somewhat stable appch post checklists etc.
      I say this only so you know it’s a somewhat thoughtful reply, I’m 10 years on wide bodies and there’s no way they could have tracked for a direct final from 30k feet for runway 18…
      All to simply say, ATC did a stellar job - as did the crew..

    • @Turrbo10
      @Turrbo10 Рік тому +7

      And just a footnote - a visual approach is not something that will typically make your day easier if your call sign ends in ‘heavy’ 🤣🤣

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Рік тому +1

      There’s a procedure for the 777 freighter where you descend and fly at 25,000ft which allows the fire suppression system to depressurise the main deck to attempt to subdue the fire. At about 60 miles to the runway you commence a rapid descent and slow to your approach speed for landing.
      “Heavy” planes can’t descend and slow at the same time.

    • @crooked-halo
      @crooked-halo Рік тому

      @@Turrbo10 Yeah, my comment, which I've edited heavily now, was from my ignorant view of only having flown light GA aircraft. I am curious and enjoy learning, though. "Heavy" means above max. landing weight, correct? Why would a visual approach be avoided if heavy? Landing "heavy" is safe if the pilot is light and careful during touchdown, correct?

    • @crooked-halo
      @crooked-halo Рік тому +1

      @@EdOeuna Ok, great, I'm learning! My original comment is from my experience of only flying light GA aircraft, so I'm ignorant of large jet procedures. So, a "heavy" can't descend and slow simply because it's weight causes acceleration whilst descending?

  • @dannmann17
    @dannmann17 Рік тому +5

    And that’s why flying is safer than driving👍🏻🇺🇸

    • @scottw5315
      @scottw5315 Рік тому +1

      Been flying my entire adult life. Other than dealing with bad weather or emergencies, I'm far more comfortable in a plane than being in close formation with idiots on the highways.

    • @Belchmaster41
      @Belchmaster41 Рік тому +1

      I agree, but the problem is finding a place to park and get checked in, etc.

  • @chipurBillWhite
    @chipurBillWhite Рік тому

    So when emergency ground services are provided does the airline get charged?

  • @jakerazmataz852
    @jakerazmataz852 5 місяців тому

    I'm surprised he went so far north with only a 4kt wind. He probably could have landed fine with a slight tailwind.

  • @KevinDavis-bd5xn
    @KevinDavis-bd5xn Рік тому

    And this is why I'm not a pilot. My first thought was why not go UP and starve the fire of oxygen then land.

  • @pozzee2809
    @pozzee2809 Рік тому +6

    So was there an actual fire? Or were the instruments faulty? (Great job landing safely)

    • @mikekrausetulsa6452
      @mikekrausetulsa6452 Рік тому +2

      Bugs (ladybugs I think) got loose and caused a false reading on sensors.

    • @wesstallard8919
      @wesstallard8919 Рік тому +1

      @@mikekrausetulsa6452 Well at least it wasn't like that poor UPS flight near Dubai. Those poor souls were doomed from the beginning.

    • @nynphose
      @nynphose Рік тому +1

      well the "REAL_ATC" says "Emergency crews at the airport are scrambled and air traffic controllers work to bring the flaming aircraft down." so I don't think this channel would blatently lie to create a narrative would they? You would think we would have seen video of the aircraft burning up as it approached Tulsa, or burning up on the ground. Perhaps there is a new definition for "FLAMING" that we are just not aware of?

  • @sunnyscott4876
    @sunnyscott4876 Рік тому +1

    🤯🤯🤯🔥🔥🔥🤯🤯🤯

  • @chloehennessey6813
    @chloehennessey6813 Рік тому

    Seems like a lot of needless flying around when you have a fire in the cargo hole. Is there a reason they didn’t just vector hin straight in for a runway?

  • @v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31
    @v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31 Рік тому +1

    Same plane as Hammer attack! OMG that brings back one 😵‍💫

  • @donwald3436
    @donwald3436 Рік тому

    My package!!!

  • @Boodieman72
    @Boodieman72 Рік тому

    Did they have an actual fire or just an indication?

  • @deantait8326
    @deantait8326 Рік тому

    So, how did it end? Well or Bad or kinda okay?

  • @troo_story
    @troo_story 6 місяців тому +1

    *...ATC work to bring the flaming aircraft down* Flaming aircraft my ass.

  • @AdamHansenOfficial
    @AdamHansenOfficial 2 місяці тому

    It would be nice if you could add a timer in the corner of your videos. Especially this one, it would be interesting to know how long it actually took them to land the plane.
    Otherwise, amazing videos 😊

  • @my-yt-inputs2580
    @my-yt-inputs2580 Рік тому +26

    Holy crap.....that sure was the long way to get to 18L. Good thing they didn't need to get on the ground ASAP. Although unsure of winds or active runway at that time.

    • @fhuber7507
      @fhuber7507 Рік тому +28

      It can take over 50 miles for an emergency descent without overspeed that could rip the wings off...
      As much as you want to point the nose down 30 deg, it just doesn't work.

    • @my-yt-inputs2580
      @my-yt-inputs2580 Рік тому

      @@fhuber7507 As I mentioned below a 360 during the descent to lose altitude would take less distance. I think perhaps they were being vectored to the active runway which was probably 360/000 but then asked for 18L to which they got vectored.

    • @Sweetteawillie
      @Sweetteawillie Рік тому +7

      Whether flying a spiral or other pattern, the descent rate is constrained by time which is asap... continually dropping altitude to capture the glide slope is what controllers were doing... using available space.

    • @timblack33
      @timblack33 Рік тому +14

      I had a fire on a small GA Aircraft once (alternator/generator on a C172 and spread from there) and every second seems like an eternity but you can get yourself killed just as easy or easier by rushing and pushing the airframe.

    • @jemand8462
      @jemand8462 Рік тому +15

      They WANTED 18L because they needed the extra turn to lose altitude bro.

  • @thatguy7085
    @thatguy7085 Рік тому

    In flight fire… give him anything… and clear everyone out of the way.

  • @utubewatcher360
    @utubewatcher360 Рік тому +11

    They should have close circuit camera's focusing on all critical areas of the aircraft CARGO BAYS, TAIL SECTION LANDING GEAR ETC!!! We can send rockets to circle the moon, we can get ways for pilot / crews to see smoke visible or any other airframe or mechanical areas of the plane

    • @frederikjacobs552
      @frederikjacobs552 Рік тому +2

      @@zippitydoohdangtwang You still believe the moon exists?🤡

    • @endura9883
      @endura9883 Рік тому +3

      Yes we should but the airframe is 50 years old and it was impossible to implement it back then and just not worth the cost to re fit it today.

    • @andyowens5494
      @andyowens5494 Рік тому +4

      Cameras don't show everything. The detectors are sufficient (and in many respects better, detecting temperature rises rather than visible flame or smoke) to indicate a (potential) problem, and either deal with it or get on the ground. Adding more (like cameras) is just more weight and another potential source of failure. Look up Swissair 111 - a nice shiny entertainment system, nobody expected the additional wiring to kill so many.

    • @adde9506
      @adde9506 Рік тому +2

      Why? Frankly, the most important thing in case of a fire is keeping your cool and evacuating. Unless you could get to the fire to attempt to put it out (and they can't, those planes are packed), the assumption that it's just a false indication but that you need to land because you can't prove that IS the fastest way to get the plane on the ground and evacuated. Cameras would waste time and money, and probably get people killed.

  • @maxstr
    @maxstr Рік тому +2

    Would increasing altitude have any effect on the fire since oxygen gets even thinner?

    • @johnd5398
      @johnd5398 Рік тому

      It would let it spread by wasting time.

  • @mauricerizat
    @mauricerizat 8 місяців тому

    Why didn't the ATC explicitly acknowledged the emergency declaration?

  • @ReverendJeffrey
    @ReverendJeffrey Рік тому

    So what did it turn out to be???

  • @chloehennessey6813
    @chloehennessey6813 Рік тому

    He said altitude was 2986 and not the altimeter? Isn’t the altimeter supposed to be calibrated for each airport? Like 29.86 or 27.86 etc?

  • @dystopian..
    @dystopian.. Рік тому +7

    This explains why my package was late.

    • @MrPomelo555
      @MrPomelo555 Рік тому

      The flaming vibrators.

    • @merseyviking
      @merseyviking Рік тому +3

      @@MrPomelo555 They were a great band. Most people will have heard their second album "They Don't Like It Up 'Em", but I think their first album "If It Ain't Nasal, I Ain't Buying It" was the best.

    • @dystopian..
      @dystopian.. Рік тому +1

      @@merseyviking wow. I remember. I saw they reunited and dropped a single on Spotify called “The Pomelo Ankle Grab”

    • @merseyviking
      @merseyviking Рік тому +2

      @@dystopian.. It is a good track, but I miss Dirk Spanker on bass.

    • @dystopian..
      @dystopian.. Рік тому +1

      @@merseyviking ya. Totally agree. Man could he slap it

  • @bodhi8260
    @bodhi8260 Рік тому +8

    Would be nice to find out what happened.

  • @eramires
    @eramires Рік тому

    Thats scary o:

  • @toejam7606
    @toejam7606 Рік тому

    Just a simple reroute and land...

  • @hgbugalou
    @hgbugalou Рік тому +6

    Easily the most scary thing that can happen to a pilot on a plane is a fire.

    • @kristenkaz3080
      @kristenkaz3080 Рік тому

      Or a high jacking……

    • @SeanMirrsen
      @SeanMirrsen Рік тому

      To be fair, also one of the most scary things that can happen to anyone anywhere.

  • @PAMELAPORTER-ci7mr
    @PAMELAPORTER-ci7mr 11 місяців тому +1

    I can't imagine being on a plane that was on fire. Couldn't at least 1 of the packages have contained a flammable object?

  • @nynphose
    @nynphose Рік тому +1

    so where were the flames? what was on fire? you state "Emergency crews at the airport are scrambled and air traffic controllers work to bring the flaming aircraft down." are you sure you are correct on this? Please explain?

  • @obp6891
    @obp6891 Рік тому

    Wondering if there was no way to do a straight in for 18 L

  • @ItsThaKing
    @ItsThaKing 7 місяців тому

    Wow, I just made a song about my life being a plane on fire, no diving, by the way, I live in Tulsa and the first place, he said was Tulsa

  • @Gio-ue8ps
    @Gio-ue8ps 10 місяців тому

    It was probably those lithium ion batteries

  • @almoemason
    @almoemason Рік тому

    You guys better not have burned my weed.

  • @josevelasquez5241
    @josevelasquez5241 Рік тому

    For more than 30 years air traffic communications don’t use ROGER anymore,!!

  • @coopman4916
    @coopman4916 Рік тому

    Crew flying DECLARED AN EMERGENCY with Kansas City Center at 0:56 in the video.
    Coop

  • @martykasa7864
    @martykasa7864 2 місяці тому

    God God, why are dc 10's still in the air ?!?!!?!?!

  • @roady1710
    @roady1710 Рік тому +1

    My God Almighty the controllers have this guy in fedex zigzag and all over the place I'm surprised the plane didn't burn up looking at his route why didn't they start him straight in up at the top when he made his 1st turn right Then straight in to 18 left Wow

    • @mayorstoner3459
      @mayorstoner3459 Рік тому +1

      Because the plane was at around 30,000ft when the alert went off. Takes a while to loose altitude.

  • @Bluefroggy84
    @Bluefroggy84 Рік тому

    Surprised no one asked about hazardous materials on board.

  • @jednick
    @jednick Рік тому +2

    Can anyone explain why the ILS couldn't be turned on in time, as ATC advised?

    • @Belchmaster41
      @Belchmaster41 Рік тому +1

      it takes time for ILS, etc. to get set up while the aircraft is preparing for final approach

  • @DLN--___
    @DLN--___ Рік тому

    I have a question for you guys , does everyone understand this audio without subtitles?

  • @drewm4392
    @drewm4392 Рік тому +1

    There could have been some more details at the end, with live video

  • @derheeheehee6941
    @derheeheehee6941 Рік тому +2

    It was a ladybug infestation that gave an erroneous indication

    • @prh47bridge
      @prh47bridge Рік тому

      That is what it says on Aviation Safety Network. However, the Fox News source linked from the ASN report does not say that and all other sources I have found say there was a fire, the only exception being a post on Reddit.

    • @derheeheehee6941
      @derheeheehee6941 Рік тому

      @@prh47bridge Agree. I wonder how ASN got it wrong. I'm just a 172 driver with a thousand hours but if I have smoke I want to be on the ground immediately without hesitation and troubleshooting. We can talk about that later.

  • @saschamm4864
    @saschamm4864 Рік тому

    The pilot has to push the PTT a bit longer after the message.

  • @baronofgreymatter14
    @baronofgreymatter14 3 місяці тому

    What happened to Cleared to Tulsa via direct. He never got recleared to Tulsa haha

  • @lockervomhocker9795
    @lockervomhocker9795 Рік тому

    4:18 The Emergency plane asks for descend...does the controller forgot this plane?