Pilot entered runway and took-off WITHOUT CLEARANCE. Real ATC Audio

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • Date: June 25, 2023.
    Location: Palo Alto Airport (KPAO).
    A Diamond DA40 Diamond Star registration N660PS, performing flight from Palo Alto Airport (KPAO) to Palo Alto Airport (KPAO) was instructed to hold short of the runway before departure due to approaching traffic but the pilot didn’t stop the aircraft, crossed the hold short line, entered the runway and started takeoff without the clearance.
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  • @retiredandcrusty
    @retiredandcrusty 5 місяців тому +70

    Pilot had “I’m having radio issues” get-out-of-jail card on hand 😊

    • @davidhill3939
      @davidhill3939 5 місяців тому +7

      How is that? No clearance? Stay off the runway.

    • @MrJeffinLodi
      @MrJeffinLodi 5 місяців тому +7

      If you don't have contact, you don't take off; period.

    • @bayouflier6641
      @bayouflier6641 Місяць тому

      Radio issues cannot save you from taking off without a clearance. That moron should permanently lose his certificate.

    • @SpaceDad42
      @SpaceDad42 12 днів тому +1

      That would never be a free pass. We have light gun signals and procedures to use for comms failure. Not to mention, no one would ever takeoff with known comms failure.

  • @TheCream14
    @TheCream14 5 місяців тому +140

    Radio issue?? Then why would you still take off, especially when not given clearance? Get this guy out of an airplane.

    • @randyporter3491
      @randyporter3491 5 місяців тому +10

      That is exactly my thought. Rest assured, no pilot on here, including myself, would ever take off suspecting radio issues. And, he likely didn't either. It's easy to "claim" radio issues when you do something that stupid.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 5 місяців тому

      @@randyporter3491 I would. I am not a quivering flyboy.

    • @supermotosize
      @supermotosize 5 місяців тому +2

      Did he think it was uncontrolled airport.

    • @randyporter3491
      @randyporter3491 5 місяців тому +5

      @@supermotosize If he did “think” that, he shouldn’t be flying.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 5 місяців тому

      @@randyporter3491 How so?

  • @KonaMan62
    @KonaMan62 5 місяців тому +47

    D A M N ! ! !
    I really commend the tower controller for how she handled the radio traffic with N660PS after its unlawful departure. By continually giving him traffic alerts (which he heard and responded to) AND keeping him on her frequency, she (most likely intentionally) demonstrated that his radio WAS working correctly, thus punching holes in his "radio issues, get out of jail free card."
    The simple fact that the Diamond pilot KNEW a Tower Controller was working, by virtue of his taxi dialog, means that NO competent Pilot would taxi out to the active and then announce "0PS lining up and taking off from runway 31" PERIOD. It's as if he suddenly thought he was at an uncontrolled airport-but even then, his failure to hold short, check for other aircraft, and announce his intentions prior to entering the active was reprehensible.

  • @drn13355
    @drn13355 5 місяців тому +62

    "radio issues" doesn't mean a pilot just does whatever they want. If anything that is when they stop everything and resolve the issue.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 5 місяців тому

      In Europe...taking off without clearance is a tool used to expedite traffic movement in times of congestion. Too much time wasted going back and forth....postion with no hold, throttles forward and roll. It makes sense.

    • @MarcPagan
      @MarcPagan 5 місяців тому

      As a former airline pilot in USA, I find your statement hard to believe. @@RLTtizME
      At a towered airport, one may never enter or cross an active runway or take off without clearance.
      If positioned number 1 holding short, sure, we often get:
      "American 354, cleared for take off, runway 22 right, expedite. Company 757 on 5 mile final."

    • @jamessv5020
      @jamessv5020 5 місяців тому +4

      @@RLTtizME -- That sounds terrible, but I'm going to have to guess that there's a process for that; it can't just be all that random! What I am trying to say is, some sort of tacit understanding among all players has to be in place, so when the takeoff w/o clearance kicks in, everyone knows what they need to do.

    • @toastehh09
      @toastehh09 2 місяці тому +3

      *pressing the hazard lights in my car" I have radio issues!!!! Everyone outta the way

    • @fort809
      @fort809 13 днів тому

      @@RLTtizMEEuropeans do lots of silly things, like calling soccer “football” and driving on the left

  • @mtnairpilot
    @mtnairpilot 5 місяців тому +23

    I’ve never heard ATC offer the noninvolved pilot the opportunity to complain. They wanted to make sure the Diamond Star pilot didn’t get let off the hook.

  • @gchsbus
    @gchsbus 5 місяців тому +46

    THE OTHER PILOT ALSO WANTS THE PHONE NUMBER 🤣 Oh man you can tell he is really pissed off over this. I would have loved to hear the phone call between the tower and the pilot that had the go around. There is no doubt in my mind he had A LOT to say!

    • @RaineStudio
      @RaineStudio 5 місяців тому +3

      I think he is a bit too much into the drama. Fly the plane and leave it behind.

    • @stischer47
      @stischer47 Місяць тому +2

      @@RaineStudio Right. And if there were a crash you'd be blaming him.

    • @smyers820gm
      @smyers820gm 29 днів тому

      @@RaineStudioagreed other pilot sounded like a little b@tch 😂

    • @smyers820gm
      @smyers820gm 29 днів тому

      @@stischer47coulda woulda shoulda but there wasn’t. There was a little b@tch in that aircraft though 😂

    • @fort809
      @fort809 13 днів тому +1

      @@RaineStudioto be fair, the ground controller was heavily encouraging it. He stopped after the “pls call him” comment until ground control started yapping when he landed

  • @wdoxsee
    @wdoxsee Місяць тому +9

    If he had "radio issues" it must have started on the ground when he didn't hear a takeoff clearance, so taking care of these issues is best done on the ground if possible. There was no mechanical problem here, it was a mental problem.

  • @jimsmith556
    @jimsmith556 5 місяців тому +24

    Issues with the radio never allows you to give yourself clearance for takeoff. Hopefully this was a suspension and not just a warning.

  • @ifiwereme
    @ifiwereme 5 місяців тому +20

    This is user error, not radio trouble.

  • @RetreadPhoto
    @RetreadPhoto 5 місяців тому +20

    Take that cert away for a year. Even if it’s currently a student cert.

  • @chipc4936
    @chipc4936 5 місяців тому +7

    Unbelievable. As @TheCream14 wrote, "Get this guy out of an airplane." NOW

  • @RetreadPhoto
    @RetreadPhoto 5 місяців тому +30

    Radio problems my ass.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 5 місяців тому

      That would be a very big issue.

  • @user-dd9tc4zz8j
    @user-dd9tc4zz8j 5 місяців тому +17

    Radio issues means you stay where you are, not just barge ahead and do want you want. It certainly is not a get out of jail for free card.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 5 місяців тому

      No it doesn't. Where in the rule book says that?

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 5 місяців тому +2

      @@RLTtizMEwhen he never got clearance to take off, he’d be sitting out there all afternoon until they sent an ops vehicle over there to check on him, or light gunned him.
      Radio problems never mysteriously give clearances, they omit them. Now if he lost them in the air, squawk 7600 and make a pattern back for landing, expecting lights.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 5 місяців тому

      @@jaysmith1408 We just ignore the lights.

    • @allgrainbrewer10
      @allgrainbrewer10 Місяць тому +2

      @@RLTtizMEclown

  • @sheikchilli8670
    @sheikchilli8670 3 місяці тому +8

    the radio was having pilot issues, not the other way round

    • @allgrainbrewer10
      @allgrainbrewer10 Місяць тому +1

      Yea. There was a short between the seat and the controls.

  • @johnd.8224
    @johnd.8224 5 місяців тому +8

    Take his license permanently.

  • @MarcPagan
    @MarcPagan 5 місяців тому +10

    "Radio issues" is going to be one tough sell to any investigator.
    - from a former airline pilot, and current instructor who has seen and heard of many an investigation.
    If tower forwarded this for follow up, at best the conclusion will be:
    "PIC has an opportunity for comms and situational awareness training".
    If he filed a NASA report, perhaps it will help a bit with any enforcement action -
    Ex
    A 6 month suspension might be modified to a 30 day suspension,
    with a required sign off from a CFI on remedial training deemed necessary.
    If one wants to lose one's license, or earn a suspension,
    violating taxi, runway, or airport procedures is an effective and efficient method :)

  • @LadyLithias
    @LadyLithias 5 місяців тому +16

    So I'm no pilot, but I've been following Aviation channels since the Pandemic began, and it seems to me that someone who (A) doesn't have a trustworthy radio, and (B) hasn't received clearance to take-off would be an utter idiot to just take the info that traffic is inbound, and give himself permission to takeoff.
    I have to wonder, I've seen a lot of "oopsies" like stopping not quite short of the hold line and another plane has to go around, and they get a number to call. I'm pretty sure that is a beneficial conversation for all involved, and likely that's as far as it goes. But for someone like this, who ignored ATC's directions, followed by taking off without clearance..... seems like he might receive a lot more consequences. This wasn't an "oops" it was a raging disaster in the making. Only alert individuals kept it from being a disaster.
    Anyway.... does anyone know what sort of consequences this dingbat might get?

    • @MrJeffinLodi
      @MrJeffinLodi 5 місяців тому

      Well, you are not only an idiot, but you are breaking the law

  • @Adrian-lc6jq
    @Adrian-lc6jq Місяць тому +2

    I didnt realise it was this easy to get a pilots license.

  • @cjhickspe1399
    @cjhickspe1399 5 місяців тому +4

    29J got the receipts for that one. That guy in the Diamond was wrong from the jump.

  • @0bm31770
    @0bm31770 5 місяців тому +5

    I think I've heard that pilot's voice in other deviation videos.

  • @danilorainone406
    @danilorainone406 Місяць тому +2

    '660 papa ,,, you got a mouse on your shoulder telling you to rollout and not hold?''

  • @vitaly6312
    @vitaly6312 5 місяців тому +5

    He treated this like an untowered airport. This guy has no business flying.

  • @user-yi3yx2fn7g
    @user-yi3yx2fn7g 5 місяців тому +5

    "Radio issues". XD

  • @mwhe3111
    @mwhe3111 5 місяців тому +13

    He wasn't having radio issues...he just did whatever the hell he wanted to do. JMHO.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 5 місяців тому

      Clearly...radio issues.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 5 місяців тому

      AYADBFB?

    • @allgrainbrewer10
      @allgrainbrewer10 Місяць тому +1

      @@RLTtizMEand you are clearly this pilot, or one of that clowns friends

  • @daveluttinen2547
    @daveluttinen2547 5 місяців тому +6

    I would imagine his instructor will have been contacted. (Read that: how did you find him qualified?)

  • @errrr_001
    @errrr_001 5 місяців тому +4

    As the great Saul Goodman once said: the FAA will come down on him like a proverbial ton of bricks

  • @markgo5624
    @markgo5624 Місяць тому +2

    when in doubt don't depart thats it

  • @001jurgen
    @001jurgen 5 місяців тому +5

    I'm not a pilot, but question: what do you do when during taxi to the runway your radio fails? What is the procedure?

    • @TheMcIke
      @TheMcIke 5 місяців тому +20

      1) Stop moving and DON'T TAKE OFF, 2) squawk 7600 if your transponder is working (no comms), 3) try alternate means to contact the tower (change radios, emergency hand-held radio, or use a cell phone), 4) if you can see the tower, watch for ATC light gun instructions, 5) wait in place until you either establish communication with the tower and are told what to do, or wait until Ops sends a ground vehicle out to you to investigate.
      But above all, DON'T TAKE OFF if you think you have a radio problem!

  • @Steve-pk9ok
    @Steve-pk9ok 5 місяців тому +25

    It's not radio issues it's a culture issue and some feel they can do whatever they want.

    • @Mostopinionatedmanofalltime
      @Mostopinionatedmanofalltime 5 місяців тому +8

      Exactly what I was thinking.

    • @allgrainbrewer10
      @allgrainbrewer10 Місяць тому +1

      Accent airlines???

    • @bonchbonch
      @bonchbonch Місяць тому +2

      What are you getting at? There are way, way more videos on UA-cam of American pilots not following orders.

    • @smyers820gm
      @smyers820gm 29 днів тому

      @@bonchbonchUA-cam isn’t the end all be all of statistical analysis moron 🙄

    • @fort809
      @fort809 13 днів тому

      @@bonchbonchbecause there’s more American pilots in general, sample bias

  • @kingslaphappy1533
    @kingslaphappy1533 21 день тому

    He didn’t read back the “ hold short” command and right there i knew he was going to screw this up.

  • @randusp90
    @randusp90 10 днів тому

    I can tell 29J was steaming and rightfully so. This type of incompetence leaves airspaces congested and delayed and can cause deadly accidents.

  • @northmaineguy5896
    @northmaineguy5896 5 місяців тому +8

    3:50 The problem is between your ears!

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 5 місяців тому

      YOu've beem able to get by with just a few rocks between your ears. How so?

  • @melvinelder3587
    @melvinelder3587 9 днів тому

    This guy genuinely sounds exactly like an instructor I had in the southeast of the USA.. completely incompetent if it’s the same guy..

  • @billwendell6886
    @billwendell6886 5 місяців тому

    Pilot has passenger going whooosssswishhhh woooooshhhhh fizzzzzzzzzzzwhoooooshhhh

  • @PDQkevin77
    @PDQkevin77 5 місяців тому +2

    It appears to me that the radio was not malfunctioning but that the pilot simply had the volume turned too low because once he claimed radio problems he never had them anymore. Must have figured out to turn up the volume.

    • @allgrainbrewer10
      @allgrainbrewer10 Місяць тому +1

      Still took off without clearance. SMH

    • @fort809
      @fort809 13 днів тому

      I don’t think he’s fully English fluent to be honest

  • @thud9797
    @thud9797 5 місяців тому +1

    Dude thought he was at an uncontrolled field. I'm doing this, I'm doing that. 🙄

  • @SR-bh5jd
    @SR-bh5jd 5 місяців тому +2

    Cirrus driver with a serious attitude!

  • @Ike-kn5dt
    @Ike-kn5dt Місяць тому

    Sounds like a guy who learned at an untowered field, and didn't know the rules for flying in a class D airspace. to fly in a delta, you need two way communication with the tower, and to take off you need clearance from the tower. Under no circumstances should you be in a Delta airspace without talking to the tower

  • @SierraBravo7970
    @SierraBravo7970 5 місяців тому +2

    Radio operator issue. Sheesh

  • @sharpe67
    @sharpe67 26 днів тому

    I call BS on radio problems.

  • @dgale1023
    @dgale1023 Місяць тому

    If a pilot says radio problem can't they tell him you gotta get it fixed or get a new one before you fly again? This is serious stuff

    • @sidewind131258
      @sidewind131258 3 дні тому

      First of all, if you have equipment failure you STOP and don't move, wait, try other means of communication, even mobile phone, but no matter what DO NOT MOVE
      Second, yes you need repair or new radio
      Third, this "pilot" needs a requalification
      Hope it answers your questions

  • @jimmcclelland5754
    @jimmcclelland5754 5 місяців тому +4

    Part of pilot training and examination should be to acquire and demonstrate understanding of and proficiency in the English language.

  • @sparty2able
    @sparty2able 5 місяців тому +13

    29J is quite a drama queen. It happened. Get over it. Tower is clearly addressing.

    • @jeffreyhughes7107
      @jeffreyhughes7107 5 місяців тому

      Right?!? I thought the very same thing. He already got the dreaded “copy this number down”. I have had radio problems in the pattern and it sucks, fortunately for me the tower was very understanding. I was receiving but my transmission was a 2. I get it that that deviation could have been deadly but everything was handled and no one was in peril. The offending pilot will get a deviation. Why add to his misery - forgive and move on and hope someone will forgive you when you screw up.

  • @Anonymous99997
    @Anonymous99997 5 місяців тому

    Sounds like a Seat to Stick error.

  • @marryson123
    @marryson123 5 місяців тому +5

    Indian...... There was another Indian pilot who struggles to land his plane a while back. The Controller had to guide him through his approach multiple times............

  • @HapyLLIuTeJIb
    @HapyLLIuTeJIb 5 місяців тому +16

    "The broken radio inadvertently gave me the takeoff clearance" 🥸

  • @flyingtigerline
    @flyingtigerline 5 місяців тому +6

    Language issues, not radio. Major entitlement.

  • @ImpendingJoker
    @ImpendingJoker 5 місяців тому

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "Any idiot can fly an airplane."

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 5 місяців тому

      Are you a Chief Pilot?

  • @andrewfielding1342
    @andrewfielding1342 3 місяці тому +3

    Apparently he doesn’t like to listen to women 😂

  • @MarkMcLT
    @MarkMcLT 5 місяців тому +2

    I only watch ATC videos that specify the date of the incident.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 5 місяців тому +3

      We only watch the ones where you haven't commented.

  • @joshastana849
    @joshastana849 5 місяців тому +11

    Always a pilot with an accent

    • @RetreadPhoto
      @RetreadPhoto 5 місяців тому +3

      You mean with an attitude and a Devil May care approach to life.

    • @GWNorth-db8vn
      @GWNorth-db8vn 5 місяців тому +2

      This one sounds Dutch.

    • @rudiklein
      @rudiklein 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@GWNorth-db8vnDefinitely not Dutch. I would recognize a fellow Dutchman by his accent.

    • @GWNorth-db8vn
      @GWNorth-db8vn 5 місяців тому

      @@rudiklein - That was my best guess. What would you say that accent is?

    • @billfly2186
      @billfly2186 5 місяців тому +3

      @@GWNorth-db8vn He's from Stupidville.

  • @Dan_C604
    @Dan_C604 Місяць тому

    Cirrus pilot was also a bit over his head….

  • @hankc1208
    @hankc1208 Місяць тому +2

    atc prompting another pilot to file a complaint ? sketchy

  • @ChrisCokeRobinson
    @ChrisCokeRobinson Місяць тому +1

    It's always some foreigner pilot..

  • @grampsinsl5232
    @grampsinsl5232 2 місяці тому +2

    So many of these barely-English-speakers on these videos.

  • @RR-zq3mk
    @RR-zq3mk 5 місяців тому +2

    Cirrus guy sounds no better then the other guy. Sounds arrogant and think they are elite

  • @bjohnson1149
    @bjohnson1149 6 днів тому

    I listen to a lot of these videos and so many mistakes are made by those with heavy accents!

  • @bobwilson758
    @bobwilson758 5 місяців тому +3

    Don’t understand English - trouble with radio - Always the same bullshit ! No ! No ! Unacceptable !

  • @bobwilson758
    @bobwilson758 5 місяців тому +1

    He ain’t gonna call shit ! You know it - we all know it ! Bull

  • @gnghngnvbnb7479
    @gnghngnvbnb7479 26 днів тому

    very likely that his radio did not work well, so its not his fault.
    nothing happened after all, so whats the fuss all about?

    • @sidewind131258
      @sidewind131258 3 дні тому +1

      What if there had been a issue, maybe a small crash, and you were in the plane that 660PS crashed into ?
      Should it just be forgotten when you was hospitalized and wheelchair bound for the rest of your life ?

    • @gnghngnvbnb7479
      @gnghngnvbnb7479 16 годин тому

      @@sidewind131258 😥 you schooled me like a little boy, from now on I will reflect on my comments and lead with good example against bad airmanship.

  • @wallacegrommet9343
    @wallacegrommet9343 5 місяців тому

    I wondered what entitled, pompous accent I would hear from the offending pilot.

  • @OhMySack
    @OhMySack 5 місяців тому +3

    God damn foreigners in these DA's and other trainers. This is happening constantly. Its bullshit. "Radio Issues"