Pilot entered runway and took-off WITHOUT CLEARANCE. Real ATC Audio
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Date: June 25, 2023.
Location: Palo Alto Airport (KPAO).
A Diamond DA40 Diamond Star registration N660PS, performing flight from Palo Alto Airport (KPAO) to Palo Alto Airport (KPAO) was instructed to hold short of the runway before departure due to approaching traffic but the pilot didn’t stop the aircraft, crossed the hold short line, entered the runway and started takeoff without the clearance.
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Pilot had “I’m having radio issues” get-out-of-jail card on hand 😊
How is that? No clearance? Stay off the runway.
If you don't have contact, you don't take off; period.
Radio issues cannot save you from taking off without a clearance. That moron should permanently lose his certificate.
That would never be a free pass. We have light gun signals and procedures to use for comms failure. Not to mention, no one would ever takeoff with known comms failure.
Radio issue?? Then why would you still take off, especially when not given clearance? Get this guy out of an airplane.
That is exactly my thought. Rest assured, no pilot on here, including myself, would ever take off suspecting radio issues. And, he likely didn't either. It's easy to "claim" radio issues when you do something that stupid.
@@randyporter3491 I would. I am not a quivering flyboy.
Did he think it was uncontrolled airport.
@@supermotosize If he did “think” that, he shouldn’t be flying.
@@randyporter3491 How so?
D A M N ! ! !
I really commend the tower controller for how she handled the radio traffic with N660PS after its unlawful departure. By continually giving him traffic alerts (which he heard and responded to) AND keeping him on her frequency, she (most likely intentionally) demonstrated that his radio WAS working correctly, thus punching holes in his "radio issues, get out of jail free card."
The simple fact that the Diamond pilot KNEW a Tower Controller was working, by virtue of his taxi dialog, means that NO competent Pilot would taxi out to the active and then announce "0PS lining up and taking off from runway 31" PERIOD. It's as if he suddenly thought he was at an uncontrolled airport-but even then, his failure to hold short, check for other aircraft, and announce his intentions prior to entering the active was reprehensible.
"radio issues" doesn't mean a pilot just does whatever they want. If anything that is when they stop everything and resolve the issue.
In Europe...taking off without clearance is a tool used to expedite traffic movement in times of congestion. Too much time wasted going back and forth....postion with no hold, throttles forward and roll. It makes sense.
As a former airline pilot in USA, I find your statement hard to believe. @@RLTtizME
At a towered airport, one may never enter or cross an active runway or take off without clearance.
If positioned number 1 holding short, sure, we often get:
"American 354, cleared for take off, runway 22 right, expedite. Company 757 on 5 mile final."
@@RLTtizME -- That sounds terrible, but I'm going to have to guess that there's a process for that; it can't just be all that random! What I am trying to say is, some sort of tacit understanding among all players has to be in place, so when the takeoff w/o clearance kicks in, everyone knows what they need to do.
*pressing the hazard lights in my car" I have radio issues!!!! Everyone outta the way
@@RLTtizMEEuropeans do lots of silly things, like calling soccer “football” and driving on the left
I’ve never heard ATC offer the noninvolved pilot the opportunity to complain. They wanted to make sure the Diamond Star pilot didn’t get let off the hook.
THE OTHER PILOT ALSO WANTS THE PHONE NUMBER 🤣 Oh man you can tell he is really pissed off over this. I would have loved to hear the phone call between the tower and the pilot that had the go around. There is no doubt in my mind he had A LOT to say!
I think he is a bit too much into the drama. Fly the plane and leave it behind.
@@RaineStudio Right. And if there were a crash you'd be blaming him.
@@RaineStudioagreed other pilot sounded like a little b@tch 😂
@@stischer47coulda woulda shoulda but there wasn’t. There was a little b@tch in that aircraft though 😂
@@RaineStudioto be fair, the ground controller was heavily encouraging it. He stopped after the “pls call him” comment until ground control started yapping when he landed
If he had "radio issues" it must have started on the ground when he didn't hear a takeoff clearance, so taking care of these issues is best done on the ground if possible. There was no mechanical problem here, it was a mental problem.
Issues with the radio never allows you to give yourself clearance for takeoff. Hopefully this was a suspension and not just a warning.
This is user error, not radio trouble.
Take that cert away for a year. Even if it’s currently a student cert.
Unbelievable. As @TheCream14 wrote, "Get this guy out of an airplane." NOW
Radio problems my ass.
That would be a very big issue.
Radio issues means you stay where you are, not just barge ahead and do want you want. It certainly is not a get out of jail for free card.
No it doesn't. Where in the rule book says that?
@@RLTtizMEwhen he never got clearance to take off, he’d be sitting out there all afternoon until they sent an ops vehicle over there to check on him, or light gunned him.
Radio problems never mysteriously give clearances, they omit them. Now if he lost them in the air, squawk 7600 and make a pattern back for landing, expecting lights.
@@jaysmith1408 We just ignore the lights.
@@RLTtizMEclown
the radio was having pilot issues, not the other way round
Yea. There was a short between the seat and the controls.
Take his license permanently.
"Radio issues" is going to be one tough sell to any investigator.
- from a former airline pilot, and current instructor who has seen and heard of many an investigation.
If tower forwarded this for follow up, at best the conclusion will be:
"PIC has an opportunity for comms and situational awareness training".
If he filed a NASA report, perhaps it will help a bit with any enforcement action -
Ex
A 6 month suspension might be modified to a 30 day suspension,
with a required sign off from a CFI on remedial training deemed necessary.
If one wants to lose one's license, or earn a suspension,
violating taxi, runway, or airport procedures is an effective and efficient method :)
So I'm no pilot, but I've been following Aviation channels since the Pandemic began, and it seems to me that someone who (A) doesn't have a trustworthy radio, and (B) hasn't received clearance to take-off would be an utter idiot to just take the info that traffic is inbound, and give himself permission to takeoff.
I have to wonder, I've seen a lot of "oopsies" like stopping not quite short of the hold line and another plane has to go around, and they get a number to call. I'm pretty sure that is a beneficial conversation for all involved, and likely that's as far as it goes. But for someone like this, who ignored ATC's directions, followed by taking off without clearance..... seems like he might receive a lot more consequences. This wasn't an "oops" it was a raging disaster in the making. Only alert individuals kept it from being a disaster.
Anyway.... does anyone know what sort of consequences this dingbat might get?
Well, you are not only an idiot, but you are breaking the law
I didnt realise it was this easy to get a pilots license.
29J got the receipts for that one. That guy in the Diamond was wrong from the jump.
I think I've heard that pilot's voice in other deviation videos.
'660 papa ,,, you got a mouse on your shoulder telling you to rollout and not hold?''
He treated this like an untowered airport. This guy has no business flying.
"Radio issues". XD
He wasn't having radio issues...he just did whatever the hell he wanted to do. JMHO.
Clearly...radio issues.
AYADBFB?
@@RLTtizMEand you are clearly this pilot, or one of that clowns friends
I would imagine his instructor will have been contacted. (Read that: how did you find him qualified?)
As the great Saul Goodman once said: the FAA will come down on him like a proverbial ton of bricks
Oh please. Nothing happens
when in doubt don't depart thats it
I'm not a pilot, but question: what do you do when during taxi to the runway your radio fails? What is the procedure?
1) Stop moving and DON'T TAKE OFF, 2) squawk 7600 if your transponder is working (no comms), 3) try alternate means to contact the tower (change radios, emergency hand-held radio, or use a cell phone), 4) if you can see the tower, watch for ATC light gun instructions, 5) wait in place until you either establish communication with the tower and are told what to do, or wait until Ops sends a ground vehicle out to you to investigate.
But above all, DON'T TAKE OFF if you think you have a radio problem!
It's not radio issues it's a culture issue and some feel they can do whatever they want.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Accent airlines???
What are you getting at? There are way, way more videos on UA-cam of American pilots not following orders.
@@bonchbonchUA-cam isn’t the end all be all of statistical analysis moron 🙄
@@bonchbonchbecause there’s more American pilots in general, sample bias
He didn’t read back the “ hold short” command and right there i knew he was going to screw this up.
I can tell 29J was steaming and rightfully so. This type of incompetence leaves airspaces congested and delayed and can cause deadly accidents.
3:50 The problem is between your ears!
YOu've beem able to get by with just a few rocks between your ears. How so?
This guy genuinely sounds exactly like an instructor I had in the southeast of the USA.. completely incompetent if it’s the same guy..
Pilot has passenger going whooosssswishhhh woooooshhhhh fizzzzzzzzzzzwhoooooshhhh
It appears to me that the radio was not malfunctioning but that the pilot simply had the volume turned too low because once he claimed radio problems he never had them anymore. Must have figured out to turn up the volume.
Still took off without clearance. SMH
I don’t think he’s fully English fluent to be honest
Dude thought he was at an uncontrolled field. I'm doing this, I'm doing that. 🙄
Cirrus driver with a serious attitude!
Sounds like a guy who learned at an untowered field, and didn't know the rules for flying in a class D airspace. to fly in a delta, you need two way communication with the tower, and to take off you need clearance from the tower. Under no circumstances should you be in a Delta airspace without talking to the tower
Radio operator issue. Sheesh
I call BS on radio problems.
If a pilot says radio problem can't they tell him you gotta get it fixed or get a new one before you fly again? This is serious stuff
First of all, if you have equipment failure you STOP and don't move, wait, try other means of communication, even mobile phone, but no matter what DO NOT MOVE
Second, yes you need repair or new radio
Third, this "pilot" needs a requalification
Hope it answers your questions
Part of pilot training and examination should be to acquire and demonstrate understanding of and proficiency in the English language.
29J is quite a drama queen. It happened. Get over it. Tower is clearly addressing.
Right?!? I thought the very same thing. He already got the dreaded “copy this number down”. I have had radio problems in the pattern and it sucks, fortunately for me the tower was very understanding. I was receiving but my transmission was a 2. I get it that that deviation could have been deadly but everything was handled and no one was in peril. The offending pilot will get a deviation. Why add to his misery - forgive and move on and hope someone will forgive you when you screw up.
Sounds like a Seat to Stick error.
Indian...... There was another Indian pilot who struggles to land his plane a while back. The Controller had to guide him through his approach multiple times............
"The broken radio inadvertently gave me the takeoff clearance" 🥸
Language issues, not radio. Major entitlement.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "Any idiot can fly an airplane."
Are you a Chief Pilot?
Apparently he doesn’t like to listen to women 😂
I only watch ATC videos that specify the date of the incident.
We only watch the ones where you haven't commented.
Always a pilot with an accent
You mean with an attitude and a Devil May care approach to life.
This one sounds Dutch.
@@GWNorth-db8vnDefinitely not Dutch. I would recognize a fellow Dutchman by his accent.
@@rudiklein - That was my best guess. What would you say that accent is?
@@GWNorth-db8vn He's from Stupidville.
Cirrus pilot was also a bit over his head….
atc prompting another pilot to file a complaint ? sketchy
It's always some foreigner pilot..
So many of these barely-English-speakers on these videos.
Cirrus guy sounds no better then the other guy. Sounds arrogant and think they are elite
I listen to a lot of these videos and so many mistakes are made by those with heavy accents!
Don’t understand English - trouble with radio - Always the same bullshit ! No ! No ! Unacceptable !
Calm down there Orville.
@@RLTtizME😂
He ain’t gonna call shit ! You know it - we all know it ! Bull
very likely that his radio did not work well, so its not his fault.
nothing happened after all, so whats the fuss all about?
What if there had been a issue, maybe a small crash, and you were in the plane that 660PS crashed into ?
Should it just be forgotten when you was hospitalized and wheelchair bound for the rest of your life ?
@@sidewind131258 😥 you schooled me like a little boy, from now on I will reflect on my comments and lead with good example against bad airmanship.
I wondered what entitled, pompous accent I would hear from the offending pilot.
God damn foreigners in these DA's and other trainers. This is happening constantly. Its bullshit. "Radio Issues"