D A M N ! ! ! I really commend the tower controller for how she handled the radio traffic with N660PS after its unlawful departure. By continually giving him traffic alerts (which he heard and responded to) AND keeping him on her frequency, she (most likely intentionally) demonstrated that his radio WAS working correctly, thus punching holes in his "radio issues, get out of jail free card." The simple fact that the Diamond pilot KNEW a Tower Controller was working, by virtue of his taxi dialog, means that NO competent Pilot would taxi out to the active and then announce "0PS lining up and taking off from runway 31" PERIOD. It's as if he suddenly thought he was at an uncontrolled airport-but even then, his failure to hold short, check for other aircraft, and announce his intentions prior to entering the active was reprehensible.
In some airplanes, especially low wing airplanes with only one radio antenna that is typically located under the plane, the signal may be blocked by the airframe and you may have problems communicating with the tower while holding short of the runway, an then the radio would be working perfectly fine. But that UNDER NOT WAY allows you get into the active runway and take off at a controlled airport without a clearance. Call the tower number, ask another plane to relay the communication between you and the tower, wait for light signals from the tower, whatever, except entering the active. AND if you are going to enter the active you may at least check if there traffic on final?
That is exactly my thought. Rest assured, no pilot on here, including myself, would ever take off suspecting radio issues. And, he likely didn't either. It's easy to "claim" radio issues when you do something that stupid.
That would never be a free pass. We have light gun signals and procedures to use for comms failure. Not to mention, no one would ever takeoff with known comms failure.
I think he's lying. No clue what they really do, but IMO they should 1) immediately seize the aircraft and perform a full diagnostics on the radio in order to determine whether or not it was fully functional, and 2) immediately detain the pilot and take blood and urine for testing, to determine whether or not he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I don't believe an aircraft can just arbitrarily and unilaterally decide to take off without explicit instructions from ATC. Whether or not his radio was malfunctioning, he still took off without explicit permission to do so. That, in and of itself, should be grounds for permanent revocation of his flying privileges. The fact that he took off without permission, and then later claimed to have "radio problems" indicates to me that he was lying. You can have radio problems, or you can take off without permission, but you cannot do both and expect to have any kind of credibility. Telling the truth matters, and having a low character that tells lies to avoid being confronted with the truth costs other people's lives. IDGAF is this guy dies because of his stupidity and dishonesty, however other people's lives matter, and should be protected from people like him.
I’ve never heard ATC offer the noninvolved pilot the opportunity to complain. They wanted to make sure the Diamond Star pilot didn’t get let off the hook.
In Europe...taking off without clearance is a tool used to expedite traffic movement in times of congestion. Too much time wasted going back and forth....postion with no hold, throttles forward and roll. It makes sense.
As a former airline pilot in USA, I find your statement hard to believe. @@RLTtizME At a towered airport, one may never enter or cross an active runway or take off without clearance. If positioned number 1 holding short, sure, we often get: "American 354, cleared for take off, runway 22 right, expedite. Company 757 on 5 mile final."
@@RLTtizME -- That sounds terrible, but I'm going to have to guess that there's a process for that; it can't just be all that random! What I am trying to say is, some sort of tacit understanding among all players has to be in place, so when the takeoff w/o clearance kicks in, everyone knows what they need to do.
THE OTHER PILOT ALSO WANTS THE PHONE NUMBER 🤣 Oh man you can tell he is really pissed off over this. I would have loved to hear the phone call between the tower and the pilot that had the go around. There is no doubt in my mind he had A LOT to say!
@@RaineStudioto be fair, the ground controller was heavily encouraging it. He stopped after the “pls call him” comment until ground control started yapping when he landed
@@RLTtizMEwhen he never got clearance to take off, he’d be sitting out there all afternoon until they sent an ops vehicle over there to check on him, or light gunned him. Radio problems never mysteriously give clearances, they omit them. Now if he lost them in the air, squawk 7600 and make a pattern back for landing, expecting lights.
If he had "radio issues" it must have started on the ground when he didn't hear a takeoff clearance, so taking care of these issues is best done on the ground if possible. There was no mechanical problem here, it was a mental problem.
I think it is more than just user error. From listening to this the pilot in the smaller plane seemed to have a difficult time with English. From what I've heard English is the major language used for tower control.
"Radio issues" is going to be one tough sell to any investigator. - from a former airline pilot, and current instructor who has seen and heard of many an investigation. If tower forwarded this for follow up, at best the conclusion will be: "PIC has an opportunity for comms and situational awareness training". If he filed a NASA report, perhaps it will help a bit with any enforcement action - Ex A 6 month suspension might be modified to a 30 day suspension, with a required sign off from a CFI on remedial training deemed necessary. If one wants to lose one's license, or earn a suspension, violating taxi, runway, or airport procedures is an effective and efficient method :)
So I'm no pilot, but I've been following Aviation channels since the Pandemic began, and it seems to me that someone who (A) doesn't have a trustworthy radio, and (B) hasn't received clearance to take-off would be an utter idiot to just take the info that traffic is inbound, and give himself permission to takeoff. I have to wonder, I've seen a lot of "oopsies" like stopping not quite short of the hold line and another plane has to go around, and they get a number to call. I'm pretty sure that is a beneficial conversation for all involved, and likely that's as far as it goes. But for someone like this, who ignored ATC's directions, followed by taking off without clearance..... seems like he might receive a lot more consequences. This wasn't an "oops" it was a raging disaster in the making. Only alert individuals kept it from being a disaster. Anyway.... does anyone know what sort of consequences this dingbat might get?
Only a wild guess on my part, but I suspect he will get temporarily suspended with the requirement of taking a few lessons with a flight instructor and then do some kind of proficiency check. I'd be very surprised if he got suspended for life or anything of that nature.
I haven't flown in years, but back when I was active I NEVER would have entered an active runway without clearance to do so, and that certainly includes taking off without being cleared to do so. His claim of a faulty radio sounds iffy as well.
1:16 Reminds me off the OG jungle book cartoon, where balloo is drunk off the musical beat and enters King Louie's hideout too soon: Baloo: Im gon man, solid gooonneeee. Bagheera: NOT YET BALOO! 😂😂
I had trouble with my PTT switch once. I was given clearance to takeoff but tower didn't hear my read-back, apparently. (No way to know... it's not like they acknowledge that read-back.) I thought *I* was in trouble...
1) Stop moving and DON'T TAKE OFF, 2) squawk 7600 if your transponder is working (no comms), 3) try alternate means to contact the tower (change radios, emergency hand-held radio, or use a cell phone), 4) if you can see the tower, watch for ATC light gun instructions, 5) wait in place until you either establish communication with the tower and are told what to do, or wait until Ops sends a ground vehicle out to you to investigate. But above all, DON'T TAKE OFF if you think you have a radio problem!
Sounds like a guy who learned at an untowered field, and didn't know the rules for flying in a class D airspace. to fly in a delta, you need two way communication with the tower, and to take off you need clearance from the tower. Under no circumstances should you be in a Delta airspace without talking to the tower
So what's the consequence for pilots like N66OPS? In just a short time watching these ATC Audio clips many pilot deviations, near misses, ect are witnessed and it appears there are many pilots wreaking havoc out there. Will any of these pilots be permanently grounded? Also, I'm at a point in my life where I can now afford to get pilots license and a single engine plane. I'm seriously reconsidering this as it looks far to dangerous because of these dangerous pilots. Thanks, Dave
First of all, if you have equipment failure you STOP and don't move, wait, try other means of communication, even mobile phone, but no matter what DO NOT MOVE Second, yes you need repair or new radio Third, this "pilot" needs a requalification Hope it answers your questions
It appears to me that the radio was not malfunctioning but that the pilot simply had the volume turned too low because once he claimed radio problems he never had them anymore. Must have figured out to turn up the volume.
listen what the fuck I have no experience in being a pilot but when she says hold how do you NOT comprehend that in your mind especially when it is said MULTIPLE times??
I'm not a pilot, i also don't know how i landed here, but this is how i would have reacted with my very limited knowledge about aircrafts and airspace. IF i had radio issues and would pilot a plane, i would stop immediately and take my aircraft away from a runway. I know that there have been crashed, so in almost every situation it would be possible that at that moment i plan to take of another aircraft tries to land, with some of my physics knowledge i also know that the wind and streams get manipulated by airborn objects, im not sure on how big those disturbances would be but i would be too paranoid that this would fling my slow and elevating aircraft in the tower or somewhere i would not want to go. But i'm not too sure if this would be a radio issue or a language issue, maybe even an ego issue.
I'm ignorant about flying and all this, so this may be a stupid question to fliers, but... despite the calm voices, wasn't this a potentially deadly situation? The vocal impression is that this was a nuisance, but to my uneducated brain, had this not been headed off, I get the picture of a taking-off plane crashing into a landing plane!
Radio problem, well personally although I'm not a pilot, I would want a radio to be able to communicate with other towers and other air traffic if I have any issues in the air, this is like going skydiving and not knowing if your parachute is going to open. I would not go up but i guess this guy doesnt have enough brain cells to figure that out
Indian...... There was another Indian pilot who struggles to land his plane a while back. The Controller had to guide him through his approach multiple times............
Right?!? I thought the very same thing. He already got the dreaded “copy this number down”. I have had radio problems in the pattern and it sucks, fortunately for me the tower was very understanding. I was receiving but my transmission was a 2. I get it that that deviation could have been deadly but everything was handled and no one was in peril. The offending pilot will get a deviation. Why add to his misery - forgive and move on and hope someone will forgive you when you screw up.
What 660PS did was wrong but he didn't endanger 229J in any way. He could see the guy taking active and could easily go around. He acted like a bit of a baby wanted the guy violated.
What if there had been a issue, maybe a small crash, and you were in the plane that 660PS crashed into ? Should it just be forgotten when you was hospitalized and wheelchair bound for the rest of your life ?
0PS didn't have clearance for takeoff. He was told to hold short. If he has radio issues, he can't be flying without comms. That means he's grounded until the problem is fixed.
D A M N ! ! !
I really commend the tower controller for how she handled the radio traffic with N660PS after its unlawful departure. By continually giving him traffic alerts (which he heard and responded to) AND keeping him on her frequency, she (most likely intentionally) demonstrated that his radio WAS working correctly, thus punching holes in his "radio issues, get out of jail free card."
The simple fact that the Diamond pilot KNEW a Tower Controller was working, by virtue of his taxi dialog, means that NO competent Pilot would taxi out to the active and then announce "0PS lining up and taking off from runway 31" PERIOD. It's as if he suddenly thought he was at an uncontrolled airport-but even then, his failure to hold short, check for other aircraft, and announce his intentions prior to entering the active was reprehensible.
In some airplanes, especially low wing airplanes with only one radio antenna that is typically located under the plane, the signal may be blocked by the airframe and you may have problems communicating with the tower while holding short of the runway, an then the radio would be working perfectly fine. But that UNDER NOT WAY allows you get into the active runway and take off at a controlled airport without a clearance. Call the tower number, ask another plane to relay the communication between you and the tower, wait for light signals from the tower, whatever, except entering the active. AND if you are going to enter the active you may at least check if there traffic on final?
Radio issue?? Then why would you still take off, especially when not given clearance? Get this guy out of an airplane.
That is exactly my thought. Rest assured, no pilot on here, including myself, would ever take off suspecting radio issues. And, he likely didn't either. It's easy to "claim" radio issues when you do something that stupid.
@@randyporter3491 I would. I am not a quivering flyboy.
Did he think it was uncontrolled airport.
@@supermotosize If he did “think” that, he shouldn’t be flying.
@@randyporter3491 How so?
Pilot had “I’m having radio issues” get-out-of-jail card on hand 😊
How is that? No clearance? Stay off the runway.
If you don't have contact, you don't take off; period.
That would never be a free pass. We have light gun signals and procedures to use for comms failure. Not to mention, no one would ever takeoff with known comms failure.
Not a valid excuse. No pilot would enter the runway without clearance first.
I think he's lying. No clue what they really do, but IMO they should 1) immediately seize the aircraft and perform a full diagnostics on the radio in order to determine whether or not it was fully functional, and 2) immediately detain the pilot and take blood and urine for testing, to determine whether or not he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol.
I don't believe an aircraft can just arbitrarily and unilaterally decide to take off without explicit instructions from ATC. Whether or not his radio was malfunctioning, he still took off without explicit permission to do so. That, in and of itself, should be grounds for permanent revocation of his flying privileges. The fact that he took off without permission, and then later claimed to have "radio problems" indicates to me that he was lying. You can have radio problems, or you can take off without permission, but you cannot do both and expect to have any kind of credibility. Telling the truth matters, and having a low character that tells lies to avoid being confronted with the truth costs other people's lives. IDGAF is this guy dies because of his stupidity and dishonesty, however other people's lives matter, and should be protected from people like him.
I’ve never heard ATC offer the noninvolved pilot the opportunity to complain. They wanted to make sure the Diamond Star pilot didn’t get let off the hook.
"radio issues" doesn't mean a pilot just does whatever they want. If anything that is when they stop everything and resolve the issue.
In Europe...taking off without clearance is a tool used to expedite traffic movement in times of congestion. Too much time wasted going back and forth....postion with no hold, throttles forward and roll. It makes sense.
As a former airline pilot in USA, I find your statement hard to believe. @@RLTtizME
At a towered airport, one may never enter or cross an active runway or take off without clearance.
If positioned number 1 holding short, sure, we often get:
"American 354, cleared for take off, runway 22 right, expedite. Company 757 on 5 mile final."
@@RLTtizME -- That sounds terrible, but I'm going to have to guess that there's a process for that; it can't just be all that random! What I am trying to say is, some sort of tacit understanding among all players has to be in place, so when the takeoff w/o clearance kicks in, everyone knows what they need to do.
*pressing the hazard lights in my car" I have radio issues!!!! Everyone outta the way
@@RLTtizMEEuropeans do lots of silly things, like calling soccer “football” and driving on the left
Issues with the radio never allows you to give yourself clearance for takeoff. Hopefully this was a suspension and not just a warning.
THE OTHER PILOT ALSO WANTS THE PHONE NUMBER 🤣 Oh man you can tell he is really pissed off over this. I would have loved to hear the phone call between the tower and the pilot that had the go around. There is no doubt in my mind he had A LOT to say!
I think he is a bit too much into the drama. Fly the plane and leave it behind.
@@RaineStudio Right. And if there were a crash you'd be blaming him.
@@RaineStudioagreed other pilot sounded like a little b@tch 😂
@@stischer47coulda woulda shoulda but there wasn’t. There was a little b@tch in that aircraft though 😂
@@RaineStudioto be fair, the ground controller was heavily encouraging it. He stopped after the “pls call him” comment until ground control started yapping when he landed
He didn’t read back the “ hold short” command and right there i knew he was going to screw this up.
Radio issues means you stay where you are, not just barge ahead and do want you want. It certainly is not a get out of jail for free card.
No it doesn't. Where in the rule book says that?
@@RLTtizMEwhen he never got clearance to take off, he’d be sitting out there all afternoon until they sent an ops vehicle over there to check on him, or light gunned him.
Radio problems never mysteriously give clearances, they omit them. Now if he lost them in the air, squawk 7600 and make a pattern back for landing, expecting lights.
@@jaysmith1408 We just ignore the lights.
@@RLTtizMEclown
If he had "radio issues" it must have started on the ground when he didn't hear a takeoff clearance, so taking care of these issues is best done on the ground if possible. There was no mechanical problem here, it was a mental problem.
Unbelievable. As @TheCream14 wrote, "Get this guy out of an airplane." NOW
I can tell 29J was steaming and rightfully so. This type of incompetence leaves airspaces congested and delayed and can cause deadly accidents.
the radio was having pilot issues, not the other way round
Yea. There was a short between the seat and the controls.
PEBYAC
Problem Exists Between Yoke And Chair.
This is user error, not radio trouble.
This ishow the fuck are you soloing error
I think it is more than just user error. From listening to this the pilot in the smaller plane seemed to have a difficult time with English. From what I've heard English is the major language used for tower control.
"Radio issues" is going to be one tough sell to any investigator.
- from a former airline pilot, and current instructor who has seen and heard of many an investigation.
If tower forwarded this for follow up, at best the conclusion will be:
"PIC has an opportunity for comms and situational awareness training".
If he filed a NASA report, perhaps it will help a bit with any enforcement action -
Ex
A 6 month suspension might be modified to a 30 day suspension,
with a required sign off from a CFI on remedial training deemed necessary.
If one wants to lose one's license, or earn a suspension,
violating taxi, runway, or airport procedures is an effective and efficient method :)
I think I've heard that pilot's voice in other deviation videos.
Me too, at least the same accent...
yes sounds from new yorkê
Reminds me of the guy from the "hold up your right hand," video.
Great work putting the flight radar thing and timing the controller speaking... What a great UA-cam channel 👍
29J got the receipts for that one. That guy in the Diamond was wrong from the jump.
He treated this like an untowered airport. This guy has no business flying.
So I'm no pilot, but I've been following Aviation channels since the Pandemic began, and it seems to me that someone who (A) doesn't have a trustworthy radio, and (B) hasn't received clearance to take-off would be an utter idiot to just take the info that traffic is inbound, and give himself permission to takeoff.
I have to wonder, I've seen a lot of "oopsies" like stopping not quite short of the hold line and another plane has to go around, and they get a number to call. I'm pretty sure that is a beneficial conversation for all involved, and likely that's as far as it goes. But for someone like this, who ignored ATC's directions, followed by taking off without clearance..... seems like he might receive a lot more consequences. This wasn't an "oops" it was a raging disaster in the making. Only alert individuals kept it from being a disaster.
Anyway.... does anyone know what sort of consequences this dingbat might get?
Well, you are not only an idiot, but you are breaking the law
Only a wild guess on my part, but I suspect he will get temporarily suspended with the requirement of taking a few lessons with a flight instructor and then do some kind of proficiency check. I'd be very surprised if he got suspended for life or anything of that nature.
Ground pretty much asked him to make a report on him 🤣
'660 papa ,,, you got a mouse on your shoulder telling you to rollout and not hold?''
I haven't flown in years, but back when I was active I NEVER would have entered an active runway without clearance to do so, and that certainly includes taking off without being cleared to do so. His claim of a faulty radio sounds iffy as well.
you should comment on a video of 9/11 that you'd never fly an airplane into a building
“I’m having radio issues” yeah… right…
His radio issue was... He didn't hear the clearance he wanted, because it wasn't given.
Take his license permanently.
No
"I had a problem with the radio, I didn't like what it was telling me."
I didnt realise it was this easy to get a pilots license.
1:16 Reminds me off the OG jungle book cartoon, where balloo is drunk off the musical beat and enters King Louie's hideout too soon:
Baloo: Im gon man, solid gooonneeee.
Bagheera: NOT YET BALOO!
😂😂
Nah, Baloo was a pilot in the spinoff. Even he'd have known better.
Nive job by the local controller and excellent phraseology
Student pilot logic : I have radio issues but I’ll just line up and take off anyways
I had trouble with my PTT switch once. I was given clearance to takeoff but tower didn't hear my read-back, apparently. (No way to know... it's not like they acknowledge that read-back.)
I thought *I* was in trouble...
"Radio issues". XD
As the great Saul Goodman once said: the FAA will come down on him like a proverbial ton of bricks
Oh please. Nothing happens
I'm not a pilot, but question: what do you do when during taxi to the runway your radio fails? What is the procedure?
1) Stop moving and DON'T TAKE OFF, 2) squawk 7600 if your transponder is working (no comms), 3) try alternate means to contact the tower (change radios, emergency hand-held radio, or use a cell phone), 4) if you can see the tower, watch for ATC light gun instructions, 5) wait in place until you either establish communication with the tower and are told what to do, or wait until Ops sends a ground vehicle out to you to investigate.
But above all, DON'T TAKE OFF if you think you have a radio problem!
In a nutshell, stop and don't takeoff
He wasn't having radio issues...he just did whatever the hell he wanted to do. JMHO.
Clearly...radio issues.
AYADBFB?
@@RLTtizMEand you are clearly this pilot, or one of that clowns friends
Sounds like a guy who learned at an untowered field, and didn't know the rules for flying in a class D airspace. to fly in a delta, you need two way communication with the tower, and to take off you need clearance from the tower. Under no circumstances should you be in a Delta airspace without talking to the tower
Dude thought he was at an uncontrolled field. I'm doing this, I'm doing that. 🙄
when in doubt don't depart thats it
3:50 The problem is between your ears!
YOu've beem able to get by with just a few rocks between your ears. How so?
So what's the consequence for pilots like N66OPS? In just a short time watching these ATC Audio clips many pilot deviations, near misses, ect are witnessed and it appears there are many pilots wreaking havoc out there. Will any of these pilots be permanently grounded? Also, I'm at a point in my life where I can now afford to get pilots license and a single engine plane. I'm seriously reconsidering this as it looks far to dangerous because of these dangerous pilots. Thanks, Dave
Pilot has passenger going whooosssswishhhh woooooshhhhh fizzzzzzzzzzzwhoooooshhhh
If a pilot says radio problem can't they tell him you gotta get it fixed or get a new one before you fly again? This is serious stuff
First of all, if you have equipment failure you STOP and don't move, wait, try other means of communication, even mobile phone, but no matter what DO NOT MOVE
Second, yes you need repair or new radio
Third, this "pilot" needs a requalification
Hope it answers your questions
They other day the radio in my truck stopped working so obviously entered the runway at the airport and took of course.
It appears to me that the radio was not malfunctioning but that the pilot simply had the volume turned too low because once he claimed radio problems he never had them anymore. Must have figured out to turn up the volume.
Still took off without clearance. SMH
I don’t think he’s fully English fluent to be honest
listen what the fuck I have no experience in being a pilot but when she says hold how do you NOT comprehend that in your mind especially when it is said MULTIPLE times??
"The broken radio inadvertently gave me the takeoff clearance" 🥸
I'm not a pilot, i also don't know how i landed here, but this is how i would have reacted with my very limited knowledge about aircrafts and airspace.
IF i had radio issues and would pilot a plane, i would stop immediately and take my aircraft away from a runway.
I know that there have been crashed, so in almost every situation it would be possible that at that moment i plan to take of another aircraft tries to land, with some of my physics knowledge i also know that the wind and streams get manipulated by airborn objects, im not sure on how big those disturbances would be but i would be too paranoid that this would fling my slow and elevating aircraft in the tower or somewhere i would not want to go.
But i'm not too sure if this would be a radio issue or a language issue, maybe even an ego issue.
I would imagine his instructor will have been contacted. (Read that: how did you find him qualified?)
It's not radio issues it's a culture issue and some feel they can do whatever they want.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Accent airlines???
What are you getting at? There are way, way more videos on UA-cam of American pilots not following orders.
@@bonchbonchUA-cam isn’t the end all be all of statistical analysis moron 🙄
@@bonchbonchbecause there’s more American pilots in general, sample bias
Dammit i wanna be an ATC!
He probably just didn’t want some woman telling him what to do.
Ngl I listen to this video to help me sleep
Thanks for telling us that you aren't going to lie...makes everyone believe your comment 🙄🙄🙄
@ damn it’s not that deep dude lmao
We do better communication at the RC model airfield...
This guy genuinely sounds exactly like an instructor I had in the southeast of the USA.. completely incompetent if it’s the same guy..
As a Diamond DA40 pilot myself, I feel ashamed by this pilot 😅
Cirrus driver with a serious attitude!
Radio operator issue. Sheesh
Sounds like a Seat to Stick error.
I'm NOT a pilot. But, even I know that if you weren't given permission....YOU DON'T HAVE PERMISSION.
I'm ignorant about flying and all this, so this may be a stupid question to fliers, but... despite the calm voices, wasn't this a potentially deadly situation? The vocal impression is that this was a nuisance, but to my uneducated brain, had this not been headed off, I get the picture of a taking-off plane crashing into a landing plane!
Yes but it's necessary to stay calm, you don't want your pilot to be losing their shit at every potentially dangerous situation lol...
I call BS on radio problems.
Radio problem, well personally although I'm not a pilot, I would want a radio to be able to communicate with other towers and other air traffic if I have any issues in the air, this is like going skydiving and not knowing if your parachute is going to open. I would not go up but i guess this guy doesnt have enough brain cells to figure that out
Indian...... There was another Indian pilot who struggles to land his plane a while back. The Controller had to guide him through his approach multiple times............
Apparently he doesn’t like to listen to women 😂
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "Any idiot can fly an airplane."
Are you a Chief Pilot?
Part of pilot training and examination should be to acquire and demonstrate understanding of and proficiency in the English language.
29J is quite a drama queen. It happened. Get over it. Tower is clearly addressing.
Right?!? I thought the very same thing. He already got the dreaded “copy this number down”. I have had radio problems in the pattern and it sucks, fortunately for me the tower was very understanding. I was receiving but my transmission was a 2. I get it that that deviation could have been deadly but everything was handled and no one was in peril. The offending pilot will get a deviation. Why add to his misery - forgive and move on and hope someone will forgive you when you screw up.
OPS I did it.
I only watch ATC videos that specify the date of the incident.
We only watch the ones where you haven't commented.
Language issues, not radio. Major entitlement.
Cirrus pilot was also a bit over his head….
Foreigner.......
Always a pilot with an accent
This one sounds Dutch.
@@GWNorth-db8vnDefinitely not Dutch. I would recognize a fellow Dutchman by his accent.
@@rudiklein - That was my best guess. What would you say that accent is?
@@GWNorth-db8vn He's from Stupidville.
@@billfly2186 - No, I'd recognize Arkansas.
What 660PS did was wrong but he didn't endanger 229J in any way. He could see the guy taking active and could easily go around. He acted like a bit of a baby wanted the guy violated.
atc prompting another pilot to file a complaint ? sketchy
PAO ground did more of the prompting.
It's always some foreigner pilot..
Don’t understand English - trouble with radio - Always the same bullshit ! No ! No ! Unacceptable !
Calm down there Orville.
@@RLTtizME😂
So many of these barely-English-speakers on these videos.
He ain’t gonna call shit ! You know it - we all know it ! Bull
I listen to a lot of these videos and so many mistakes are made by those with heavy accents!
Cirrus guy sounds no better then the other guy. Sounds arrogant and think they are elite
very likely that his radio did not work well, so its not his fault.
nothing happened after all, so whats the fuss all about?
What if there had been a issue, maybe a small crash, and you were in the plane that 660PS crashed into ?
Should it just be forgotten when you was hospitalized and wheelchair bound for the rest of your life ?
@@sidewind131258 😥 you schooled me like a little boy, from now on I will reflect on my comments and lead with good example against bad airmanship.
0PS didn't have clearance for takeoff. He was told to hold short. If he has radio issues, he can't be flying without comms. That means he's grounded until the problem is fixed.
I wondered what entitled, pompous accent I would hear from the offending pilot.