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@@Astronaire You think he is just doing this for cashflow? He’s lived through Hell for his work, and he sincerely wants to atone for the misery he inflicted, as an agent of the Satanic scientology cult
Andrew thank you for sharing the gospel in such a powerful way!! Praying for Mike as well as any others listening who needed to hear that and be set free from the “mind prison”. ❤
Yes, I thought the same thing I'd love to sprinklings of scripture and Truth were all throughout this interview. In an unabashed way. Showing the true character of a Christian who cares about the unsaved people in their life in such a loving way
When Mike was making that analogy about growing up in a house with walls around it and that everything behind those walls is bad, I couldn't help but think of the movie "The Truman Show"
Mike, that "moment" where you and Mary were so vulnerable made you real to the audience. It was so honest and I think it opened people up to trust you even more. Thanks for putting yourself out there and sharing this important story
I did not think that Mike looked like a child when he broke down crying! It is also NOT a weakness to cry. It's a strength to show real raw emotion & be moved compassionately for another's pain. People need to stop thinking crying is BAD. especially for men.
And when you know that he grew up in a cult where emotions are suppressed, it’s a very good and impressive thing to be able to get emotional in the first place.
I first learned about Mike from the film series that he did with Leah Remini. So appreciate he and Leah's courage, compassion, and conviction! Well done!
I know you are speaking of Scientology, but you are describing what it is like inside a narcissistic family. I was raised in a Bible teaching church, the parent puts on an image of faith but at home it is a cult which you completely described. My mother was another great story teller. I was raised with a distorted view of God and was raised with a fear of others except for the one who controlled me. If you questioned anything, you would be put to shame or made to think crazy. All this while raised in a good church.
Thanks, the first cult is the family not the faith!! Your so right, I think the family distorts the teachings for more control, as an ex JW it was nice and the people were nice but my mom was an unholy terror,but they're so stuck on cults it's all they see!!
I've been following Mike's story for a while and recently found Cultish. So nice to see those 2 come together and way to preach the gospel at the end there! How awesome would it be to see people like Mike who leave cults be truly saved!
Love the presentation to the Gospel to Mike!!! I pray that God uses it for His Glory to open mikes heart to the true freedom that is only found in Christ!!!!
Really enjoyed this conversation with Mike. I think that you should have Amy Scobee on. She found Christ after she came out of Scientology and I’d love to hear more about how that happened and what it’s like for her now that she’s a Christian.
Listening to Mike talk, makes me feel so inferior...LOL He explains things SO beautifully that someone like me can understand the complicated thing that Scientology is. As a Penn State graduate,I think he should teach, he is 100 times more interesting them most of my professors.They should have classes that deals with "religions" like Scientology and Jehovah's witnesses. That would be a class I would love to take.
You guys need to look into Landmark forum. I went to one of there weekend seminars a few years back. Needless to say I didn't make it through the entire weekend. Instantly started to get the cult vibe the first day
Total cult. I went for the next program up and stopped there. They make you do the staring game, it was super awkward. And they basically keep you for 10hrs for 3 days each day, by the end of it your a zombie from lack of sleep, because they send you home with phone assignments. Only to tell you at the end of the third day the 'BIG' secret they've been holding over your head all weekend is that "it's all empty and meaningless". Basically you can make up your own meaning. There were more sketch things. Their coach's/presenter's were so sharp, so on que, so confident, so inspiring it was hard not to be in awe. Like a performance. I didn't get suckered in but my friend did for years.
The idea of scientology is incredibly interesting to me. With the Abrahamic religions, there is some basis in christianity; they can say "the Bible is talking about xyz in this passage/prophecy/verse." Same with more ancient religions, such as Hindu or Native American spirituality, where people agreed to made up explanations for the unknown physical world that lasted thousands of years. Scientology is 100% the words of L. Ron Hubbard. It is based on absolutely made up stuff from 1 guy, with no way to possibly verify his stories. Even as Christians, we believe that God has provided significant corroboration throughout history to point to Himself as the one true God. For scientologists, what is it that corroborates Hubbard's words?
44:50 If I am not mistaken, wasn’t Hubbard a science-fiction writer before he started Scientology? If this is not a huge red flag and proof that Hubbard just lied and made the entire thing up, then I don’t n kw what is.
@@Astronaire I have only heard from those who escaped. But I don't need to hear it if they aren't christian because they don't have the words of life. Jesus Christ is the only way to life.
@42 He talks about still believing after leaving. This is SO common. I followed the new agey guru Adi Da Samraj, as an official vow taking devotee (ie. my vow to him is for all lives present, future AND PAST!). He's known under many names, and for good and bad, including as a "sex guru". I left, was totally disgusted by his organization, but for nearly a decade I still sorta paid attention to him. I talked about his early teachings vs his later teachings, I said it was the group not him, I made tons of excuses. I tried to return to the group a few times, but always was burned, gaslighted, told I was lying. I literally was told events didn't happen the way I said by someone who joined years after me and didn't know any of the same people. Even then, I would still hold on. Finally I found new teachers, new teachings, and eventually could cut the ties. That new teaching? I don't follow that either, as that was like a rebound relationship. The thing is, even though you leave, you're struggling to find a comfort zone. You don't have one. While who you are is tied into the teacher/religion, so you have to find yourself. You have nothing and its tough. Its like being an alcoholic who goes sober.
oh my goodness thank you Andrew, at 46:00 everything you just defined for him, and how Mike says you're accurate AND he's never really thought about it that way! I found that very intelligent. I hope all of this speaks to him & adds up to a strong witness for Christ! ...and now I've finished watching, ANDREW, AWESOME Gospel presentation there! and speaking to specifics of Scientology the ways the Gospel is better + freeing!! 💗💗
Besides Aaron’s channel check out Marc Headley’s channel “Blown For Good”, Mike Rinders channel & his blog & Chris Sheltons channel to know more. All ex-Scientologists.
There are obvious cults. But truth all Christians need to know, is that just because we have that title, we can't be assured of salvation unless we TRULY surrender to our loving Christ and live in His Way 🙏
Guest is super super super low. Increase his volume please. In order to hear him, I have to have you guys blowing my ears out and he's impossible to hear while driving.
Maybe the best interview of a former Scientologist I have seen. Well done. I believe Mike Rinder is honest about what he is saying now. However, he lied for years about the abuses of Scientology. I would like to see him discuss answers to his roll in the abuses. For you guys, be careful how you administer without identifying and explaining the abuses of Christianity.
LRH claimed to be the Anti-Christ and that the beast in Revelation was actually trying to save mankind from that empire that was led by Zenu. That they wrote revelation to steer people away from Hubbard.
Amazing how many "religions" when you boil it down, are almost the same... Work your way to "godhood"... Scientology, Hinduism, Mormons, Buddhism...the serpent said "you shall be as gods" and many are still believing it 😑
He’s an unbeliever and is acting as such. I think bleeping it out might be disrespectful to him. They let him speak from his viewpoint and as an unbeliever that will include language us regenerate find distasteful. I found it made me realize all the more that Mike needs to be regenerated and we should pray for that.
@@SerenityNow22 I don’t think so. They are careful with other content. They should at least make a verbal disclaimer edit before the interview that language has not been vetted and their reasoning for doing so.
@@SerenityNow22 and that is exactly why we left the language in. The only censorship I would ever want to happen is for Mike to do that himself on his own accord by way of conviction of the Holy Spirit if the Lord saves him.
So I love Cultish but this guy is not a Christian.... I've studied the Cults since 1988... And Wouldn't have anyone who escaped a cult into Nothing....But Again why have An Atheist on the show .I don't get it
Mike Rinder abused his family, assaulted and permanently injured his wife Mike Rinder’s lies and criminality have extended to his own family. Several months after Rinder deserted his wife and children, doctors diagnosed his son, Benjamin, with a rare and highly aggressive form of malignant melanoma. The young man was given five years to live. For nearly two years, Benjamin endured an excruciating but successful war against the cancer, including multiple disfiguring facial surgeries and reconstruction. Mike Rinder was never heard from once the entire time, even after he had moved to Safety Harbor, Florida-a 15-minute drive from Clearwater, where Benjamin lived.
@krister andersson Oooh, goody, another SCI-troll! You twit! Do you *really* think we are going to believe your lying drivel? Scientology has NEVER cared about its members' health or well-being! Sci is what forces families to *disconnect* from an escapee! Mike was not the perpetrator of such a grave sin; THEY are. Folks, here you are seeing a precise example of the vicious lies to which Scientology members descend in their almost-frantic attempts to distract us from what ALL escapees tell us. People ARE physically beaten. They ARE starved. Worst of all: they ARE mentally tormented, lied to, and continually gaslit, until Up becomes Down, and No becomes Yes. This is done until the Logic portion of the brain is shut off, sometimes permanently. This is a personalized Psy-Op performed against each member. This is often how victims of Narcissists are treated, as well. No difference!
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Kudos to Mike for his continued work to share what goes on behind the scenes of Scientology. It requires great bravery to speak up!
Lol no. Hes making a lot of money
@@Astronaire doesn't change the value of his contribution. :)
@@Astronaire are you an Active Scientologist?
@Astronaire
Ah, another little Sci-Troll! And your point would be...?
@@Astronaire You think he is just doing this for cashflow? He’s lived through Hell for his work, and he sincerely wants to atone for the misery he inflicted, as an agent of the Satanic scientology cult
Andrew thank you for sharing the gospel in such a powerful way!! Praying for Mike as well as any others listening who needed to hear that and be set free from the “mind prison”. ❤
Yes, I thought the same thing I'd love to sprinklings of scripture and Truth were all throughout this interview. In an unabashed way. Showing the true character of a Christian who cares about the unsaved people in their life in such a loving way
Amen
I wish that Leah and Mike would still have their show on A&E. I miss it big time.
It was intended for a limited series. Now you can speak and think clearly about this cult.
They have a really good podcast called Fair Game-Which not only targets Scientology, but other sinful cults
Mike Rinder and Cultish together... at last. This was a perfect match and it was great to see you all get together.
Thanks man, and one of the coolest things is that it just so happened this was episode 200 for us 🎉
I was so excited to see who was on this episode!
When Mike was making that analogy about growing up in a house with walls around it and that everything behind those walls is bad, I couldn't help but think of the movie "The Truman Show"
The village
Mike, that "moment" where you and Mary were so vulnerable made you real to the audience. It was so honest and I think it opened people up to trust you even more. Thanks for putting yourself out there and sharing this important story
So blessed to see you on this program mr. Rinder. My wife and I finished watching yours' and Mrs remini show on Netflix. Thank you for your courage.
I did not think that Mike looked like a child when he broke down crying! It is also NOT a weakness to cry. It's a strength to show real raw emotion & be moved compassionately for another's pain. People need to stop thinking crying is BAD. especially for men.
And when you know that he grew up in a cult where emotions are suppressed, it’s a very good and impressive thing to be able to get emotional in the first place.
Crying is bad
For a number of years, I've been wishing that some Christian discernment ministry would give exposure to this truly evil cult.
I first learned about Mike from the film series that he did with Leah Remini. So appreciate he and Leah's courage, compassion, and conviction! Well done!
I know you are speaking of Scientology, but you are describing what it is like inside a narcissistic family. I was raised in a Bible teaching church, the parent puts on an image of faith but at home it is a cult which you completely described. My mother was another great story teller. I was raised with a distorted view of God and was raised with a fear of others except for the one who controlled me. If you questioned anything, you would be put to shame or made to think crazy. All this while raised in a good church.
Thanks, the first cult is the family not the faith!! Your so right, I think the family distorts the teachings for more control, as an ex JW it was nice and the people were nice but my mom was an unholy terror,but they're so stuck on cults it's all they see!!
I love that you kept what he said. Call a spade a spade.
I've been following Mike's story for a while and recently found Cultish. So nice to see those 2 come together and way to preach the gospel at the end there! How awesome would it be to see people like Mike who leave cults be truly saved!
First time watching your show, huge fan of Mike Rinder, and now subscribe to your channel. Can't wait for more Cultish.
Love the presentation to the Gospel to Mike!!! I pray that God uses it for His Glory to open mikes heart to the true freedom that is only found in Christ!!!!
Just finished Mike’s book last night. I couldn’t put it down, it was so good!
Really enjoyed this conversation with Mike. I think that you should have Amy Scobee on. She found Christ after she came out of Scientology and I’d love to hear more about how that happened and what it’s like for her now that she’s a Christian.
Such a good show. We can hear his anger about this evil that has been done to him and others.
Listening to Mike talk, makes me feel so inferior...LOL
He explains things SO beautifully that someone like me can understand the complicated thing that Scientology is. As a Penn State graduate,I think he should teach, he is 100 times more interesting them most of my professors.They should have classes that deals with "religions" like Scientology and Jehovah's witnesses. That would be a class I would love to take.
I’m just now discovering this. Loved this episode.
Wow!! This is great you guys.
Super interesting. Surprised this has less than 4K views at this time. Deserves more!
I love this guy!! And I’m with y’all on him knowing the Lord our savior and experiencing glorious love and freedom only known in the Lord!!!🙌🙏❤️🔥🌬
Mike should watch The Village by M. Knight Shamalan. It is exactly his illustration.
Loved this interview and loved how the gospel was shared at the end!
Fascinating topic to hear about!! Thank u guys! 🙏🏽♥️
Say a prayer for Mike
You guys need to look into Landmark forum.
I went to one of there weekend seminars a few years back.
Needless to say I didn't make it through the entire weekend.
Instantly started to get the cult vibe the first day
Total cult. I went for the next program up and stopped there. They make you do the staring game, it was super awkward. And they basically keep you for 10hrs for 3 days each day, by the end of it your a zombie from lack of sleep, because they send you home with phone assignments. Only to tell you at the end of the third day the 'BIG' secret they've been holding over your head all weekend is that "it's all empty and meaningless". Basically you can make up your own meaning. There were more sketch things. Their coach's/presenter's were so sharp, so on que, so confident, so inspiring it was hard not to be in awe. Like a performance. I didn't get suckered in but my friend did for years.
Mike Rinder has cancer! Please lift Mike up in prayer!
Well done!
And no surprise I got a church of Scientology ad while watching this video. Lord Xenu you want something?
😆😅😂😆😅😂
The idea of scientology is incredibly interesting to me. With the Abrahamic religions, there is some basis in christianity; they can say "the Bible is talking about xyz in this passage/prophecy/verse." Same with more ancient religions, such as Hindu or Native American spirituality, where people agreed to made up explanations for the unknown physical world that lasted thousands of years. Scientology is 100% the words of L. Ron Hubbard. It is based on absolutely made up stuff from 1 guy, with no way to possibly verify his stories. Even as Christians, we believe that God has provided significant corroboration throughout history to point to Himself as the one true God. For scientologists, what is it that corroborates Hubbard's words?
Thank you. Great work, guys.
44:50 If I am not mistaken, wasn’t Hubbard a science-fiction writer before he started Scientology? If this is not a huge red flag and proof that Hubbard just lied and made the entire thing up, then I don’t n kw what is.
They may as well consider me a suppressive person.
Why?
@@Astronaire Because I could never support anyone who is caught up in the belief, thus I would be labled as such.
@@JesusistheonetrueGod what belief? Have you gone to their church to hear it for yourself, or is all you know hearsay from detractors?
@@Astronaire I have only heard from those who escaped. But I don't need to hear it if they aren't christian because they don't have the words of life. Jesus Christ is the only way to life.
Great video guys!
Keep up the good work 🙏🏻
@42 He talks about still believing after leaving. This is SO common. I followed the new agey guru Adi Da Samraj, as an official vow taking devotee (ie. my vow to him is for all lives present, future AND PAST!). He's known under many names, and for good and bad, including as a "sex guru". I left, was totally disgusted by his organization, but for nearly a decade I still sorta paid attention to him. I talked about his early teachings vs his later teachings, I said it was the group not him, I made tons of excuses. I tried to return to the group a few times, but always was burned, gaslighted, told I was lying. I literally was told events didn't happen the way I said by someone who joined years after me and didn't know any of the same people. Even then, I would still hold on. Finally I found new teachers, new teachings, and eventually could cut the ties. That new teaching? I don't follow that either, as that was like a rebound relationship. The thing is, even though you leave, you're struggling to find a comfort zone. You don't have one. While who you are is tied into the teacher/religion, so you have to find yourself. You have nothing and its tough. Its like being an alcoholic who goes sober.
Hey guys!! Can y’all do a podcast on Alcoholics Anonymous?
at 39:48 what show are you talking about watching? name please?
Scientology the aftermath
oh my goodness thank you Andrew, at 46:00 everything you just defined for him, and how Mike says you're accurate AND he's never really thought about it that way! I found that very intelligent. I hope all of this speaks to him & adds up to a strong witness for Christ! ...and now I've finished watching, ANDREW, AWESOME Gospel presentation there! and speaking to specifics of Scientology the ways the Gospel is better + freeing!! 💗💗
Besides Aaron’s channel check out Marc Headley’s channel “Blown For Good”, Mike Rinders channel & his blog & Chris Sheltons channel to know more. All ex-Scientologists.
There are obvious cults. But truth all Christians need to know, is that just because we have that title, we can't be assured of salvation unless we TRULY surrender to our loving Christ and live in His Way 🙏
Guest is super super super low. Increase his volume please. In order to hear him, I have to have you guys blowing my ears out and he's impossible to hear while driving.
Thatin rhymes with something
Thetan*
It’s like mike Tyson saying satan: “Thatan”!
Maybe the best interview of a former Scientologist I have seen. Well done. I believe Mike Rinder is honest about what he is saying now. However, he lied for years about the abuses of Scientology. I would like to see him discuss answers to his roll in the abuses. For you guys, be careful how you administer without identifying and explaining the abuses of Christianity.
We have till the 29th till we know what's going on
LRH claimed to be the Anti-Christ and that the beast in Revelation was actually trying to save mankind from that empire that was led by Zenu. That they wrote revelation to steer people away from Hubbard.
Such an awesome conclusion by Andrew
Hi OSA! Isn’t Mike great?!
2:10 Did Saul Goodman give you the number, the password, and some money to the vacuum store for you to escape ?
Amazing how many "religions" when you boil it down, are almost the same... Work your way to "godhood"... Scientology, Hinduism, Mormons, Buddhism...the serpent said "you shall be as gods" and many are still believing it 😑
They left in the cussing? 🤷🏻♀️
Careful of letting standards slide.
I agree. It was a bit surprising.
He’s an unbeliever and is acting as such.
I think bleeping it out might be disrespectful to him. They let him speak from his viewpoint and as an unbeliever that will include language us regenerate find distasteful.
I found it made me realize all the more that Mike needs to be regenerated and we should pray for that.
@@SerenityNow22 I don’t think so. They are careful with other content. They should at least make a verbal disclaimer edit before the interview that language has not been vetted and their reasoning for doing so.
@@klarag7059 all their other content has Christians as guests though. I do think they could have added a disclaimer.
@@SerenityNow22 and that is exactly why we left the language in.
The only censorship I would ever want to happen is for Mike to do that himself on his own accord by way of conviction of the Holy Spirit if the Lord saves him.
So I love Cultish but this guy is not a Christian.... I've studied the Cults since 1988... And Wouldn't have anyone who escaped a cult into Nothing....But Again why have An Atheist on the show
.I don't get it
whats with all the straggly beards, is this a cult thing
I don’t see any “straggly beards”.
Beard =/= straggly or cultic
Long beard =/= straggly beard or cultic
Even, straggly beard =/= cultic
@@JustinHonaker r u blind
Mike Rinder abused his family, assaulted and permanently injured his wife
Mike Rinder’s lies and criminality have extended to his own family. Several months after Rinder deserted his wife and children, doctors diagnosed his son, Benjamin, with a rare and highly aggressive form of malignant melanoma. The young man was given five years to live.
For nearly two years, Benjamin endured an excruciating but successful war against the cancer, including multiple disfiguring facial surgeries and reconstruction. Mike Rinder was never heard from once the entire time, even after he had moved to Safety Harbor, Florida-a 15-minute drive from Clearwater, where Benjamin lived.
@krister andersson
Oooh, goody, another SCI-troll! You twit! Do you *really* think we are going to believe your lying drivel? Scientology has NEVER cared about its members' health or well-being! Sci is what forces families to *disconnect* from an escapee! Mike was not the perpetrator of such a grave sin; THEY are.
Folks, here you are seeing a precise example of the vicious lies to which Scientology members descend in their almost-frantic attempts to distract us from what ALL escapees tell us. People ARE physically beaten. They ARE starved. Worst of all: they ARE mentally tormented, lied to, and continually gaslit, until Up becomes Down, and No becomes Yes. This is done until the Logic portion of the brain is shut off, sometimes permanently. This is a personalized Psy-Op performed against each member.
This is often how victims of Narcissists are treated, as well. No difference!
@@fairyspunfibers9098 Oooh!!
Oooh Goody !!!
👋🏽Scientologist or OSA
Mike's a great guy.
Tell me more of this zenu lol 😂