Does ASUS makes good graphics cards ? Part 2 artifacts and crashes
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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Top notch content as always. This is peak entertainment, seeing things people would throw away being given a new chance and life.
Would love if you could make a series, where you modify some of the newer GPUs to show how to improve them, so that they last longer!
Something "simple" like updating inadequate cooling would be amazing. I realize there may be others on youtube showing stuff like that, but a dedicated video or series about it for various brands/models from N-W Repair would be much appreciated!
The recipy is simple - take your card apart at the first service interval (a year or so into the life cycle factory thermal compound starts to dry out and needs to be replaced anyway), look at what's inside, add/change pads if needed (the most costly part of the endeavour), apply some MX 4, assemble back.
Undervolt memory a tickle if there's no adequate cooling capacity detected upon inspection, underclock it a tich if the stability suffers.
Same applies to the GPU if it for whatever reason runs too hot or if the VRM is cooled insufficiently.
That's all, folks!
P.s. the easiest mod to ease the life of a card is to check for the backplate contact, and apply some thermal pads under the chip and memory zones.
Then, a simple aluminium extrusion heatsink is bought and slapped on top of the backplate using some thermal paste and adhesive at the corners to keep it in place.
However, it bulks up the external dimensions of the card and impacts it's looks - thus is outside regular [maintenance] improvements and applicable on user's discretion if he's absolutely sure that his card is a bit on the fryer side (e.g. 3090, that's why it has two-sided waterblock solutions available).
This has been my new favorite channel for a few months now. Keep being you since you're awesome!
Thanks 👍
It makes me wonder if the flawed designs are deliberate, I used ASUS cards but I always had full cover water blocks.
love these repair videos.
They are definitely deliberate.
Definitely a "sus", if you ask me.
normal people not gonna know these card have memory chip defect, only technician like this channel
About the pads, if you note all the strips are the same width. Most likely it's cheaper for them to buy one size of roll in bulk then buy 2 or 3 different widths.
Which is crazy seeing as ASUS make the most expensive cards.
@@scoffslaphead7246 given what little we know about how Nvidia operates, after the big blowup with evga that gamersnexus covered, it's likely that Asus is still fighting for every cent they can get.
@@SeithonJetter This is a 20 series card, this was sold well before any of that.
i've seen others do what they can to diagnose their dead GPU's 😅 but you have the complete package and technological skills to bring back a dying card ❤️🤟 that alone is cool enough for me 😎❤️
Bought myself a ROG strix 2070S three years ago and for me as gamer gotta say I'm happy with it. It performs great and the heatsink works well for the gpu (I have no clue about memory cause it doesn't show any sensors). Only problem was the middle fan started rattling at certain RPMs. I didn't feel like sending it anywhere for repairs so tried strapping 2 120mm fans onto it and realized it just works and is actually better. Ended up turning it into a Noctua Edition 2070S (way before the 3070, i was first) and it would stay at 35° over ambient with the fans at like 1200rpm which is almost inaudible. That while drawing 280W
Exactly. Cooler=better.
These rogue cards jerk once they get warmed up because of poor cooling design.
It's all good when it's new or not used allot but if you game regularly, it can be a problem.
Incredible workmanship, great attention to details and so satisficing to watch.
you can watch other "experts" but none compare to the knowledge and integrity this man has, it was a real pleasure doing business with him !!!!
NorthridgeFix would love if your repaired his huge inventory of video cards that need repairing/testing
He is already sending me some of his overflow.
@@northwestrepair legend 👍
New subscriber. Appreciate your posts. Content suggestion: In the intro tell us who you are.. plz. Ion McCullom of 'Forgotten Weapons' does this best; and it's the same every episode. Fast and smooth at butter.
Seriously one of the best channels on this site. No bullshit, only pure skill and info. Keep it up!
The "cooling" solution from the ASUS high end graphics card only touch the half part of all the memories?
We are a ***** joke to you Asus?
EVGA make the right move to said good bye, I see...
Well, I need to upgrade my graphics this generation, if someone find a brand that can make one with a few years of healthy work, let me know.
Excelent video, as always man.
You should buy any card with 3 or more years of warranty. If I remeber, Zotac gives 5 years for some cards, couple of years ago.
@@Enzzzz0 There's dissassembly in Techpowerup's Zotac RTX 4090 review. Exactly the same shit. Memory chips just half covered by the thermal pad. Also the vapour chamber is undersized. Utter garbage.
is not 100% about the brand, that depends on the exact model, the best thing is just check disassembly reviews and check yourself.
@@Hawk-Tuah-on-that-thang Yea...Some cards from Zotac are garbage and some are very good... But I'm saying that...if Zotac can give 5 years of warranty and some other (MSI, Asus, Gainward...) gives 2 or 3 years... I will go for the 5 years... Doesn't matter which brand it is.
Amazing vid once again!
With EVGA out of the market and the FE nowhere to be found, which brand would you say is the best option?
i currently searching for a brand to buy the 4080 from next month so i would be inteested aswell. The Cooler design is also importand as i cant have screw holes standing out of it because i want to mount better fans on it.
uf i am glad i sold me asus 1060 6GB when i buyed it in 2017 and switched to all in one watercooled gigabyte aorus 1080 ti from 2017 not even one single problem and it is still running fine
A nice video again, Cheers froms Paris/France
Gosh I love this channel, being subscribed for over a month I believe and I love seeing you repairing video cards and you provide great explanations about why the cards fail.
I think you have singlehandedly cured me of ever wanting to buy another Asus product.
as a long time strix buyer i feel ashamed and dumb now.. what brand in the gpu market has the best build quality ?
@@8K240hz I decided this time around to try Zotac. Now, that it may be luck or whatever, but my Zotac 4090 Trinity OC is doing well and actually posted numbers slightly higher out of the box in a new system than other video cards. I exclusively bought EVGA cards for 15 years, but this time had a tough choice. Asus was right out, Gigabyte has well known QC and design issues, MSI...well MSI is MSI. That only left Zotac and PNY. I had several friends that had good luck out of Zotac and no one I knew had used a PNY video card. Not saying PNY is bad, I just couldn't find anyone in my friend circle that had used one. YMMV.
New to the channel, Really cool videos from the beginning, keep up the good work
YES! YES! YES! More videos, good. Me like :>
Wild 😜
Base plate was likely for a different card of theirs. It technically fit so they probably slapped it on, and said good enough.
1070ti is exactly the same, maybe all of them are the same... When I've seen it, my jaw dropped.
Appreciate you sharing the information
i really support your content it is amazing only concern you should add is better lightning for your camera its little dark
great video, thanks for sharing your time and knowledge with us
I Had a 1070 of this rog strix model, it had fan malfunction, because the fan cables under the plastic shroud are there with no extra protection, and if you squeeze the plastic a bit harder you can press the wires into the fin stack and cause a short.
Thankfully i could fix it easily, but this also shows the poor build quality of a "premium" cooling solution from asus.
Another excellent repair!! thanks for sharing.........
What do you call these experts who work on gpus? Just discovered this channel and learned gpus can be repaired.
My lunatic neighbor called me a pedophile after I gave mail that was accidentally put in my mailbox, to his daughter without his permissions.
Part 2 - What a treat!
Another video in just a day?! you're spoiling us
2:20 whats the name of pciex link tester and where can i buy it
Aliexpress
Always amazed. Also scared of the moment you'll receive a 3060Ti from MSI and I will have to open mine for the 1st time after haha
I wonder if the Noctua edition of the 3070 is any better.
I like the context 😅
As someone who hasnt bought an asus product ever cause i do my research first, I've noticed a seemingly repeating and deliberate behaviour/pattern, to do the bare minimum for a device to not heatstroke and die under load, when brand new mind you.
I have Asus ROG GTX 980 TI (9 years old), Asus ROG GTX 1080 TI (7 years old), Asus ROG RTX 2080 Ti (6 years old), on all of them did hard 3D rendering, sometimes for weeks without brake, I did 4k gaming, little bit of mining, all of those cards still works perfectly, I don't know what do You have against Asus, but You will not find anything better, only Nvidia founders edition or some EVGA older generation cards.
thank you sir!!
Tony please tell us more about yourself, I also asked you on the previous video. How long have you been doing this work?
Nice work greetings from mexico :D
great work love watching your vids
I love your videos, amazing work
After watching the video that you could remove the gddr6 VRAM on the GPU and replace it with a new gddr6 RAM, I was wondering if it's possible to upgrade the RAM on a GPU from gddr6 to gddr6x since it is announce that NVIDIA is re-releasing the 3060 TI with new GDDR6X memory inside. This also make me wonder does this concept also work in 3070, and other card and does it even possible to upgrade the size of the VRAM on a GPU, if this is possible this will make a very interesting project, since a lot of GPU like the 3070 was bottlenecked and capped because of the amount of VRAM it has.
No. Different pin out.
Hi thanks for these videos, question! why didnt you connect the backplate with thermalpads when it was apart anyways?
Very nice videos, fun to watch 👍
Where can I get the memory test?
Russian forums
amazing and lovely to watch
Why did you only add flux to one side of each memory chip facing the GPU before removal? Asking because I add flux to all four sides of each chip. One side seems not enough. Edit: I guess it is enough. I saw when adding to one side the flux got sucked up underneath the chip. Gotta give this a try.
Surface tension will pull it under and coat entire thing.
this is the kinda stuff that I have to subscribe now
can't believe they used the exact same, FAILED heatsink they used on the 1080ti that had nothing but memory and heating issues! wow!
Have an asus 2060 super with same heatsink design. Added extra thermal pads and hope the memory doesn't die on me.
From what I heard the Super refresh of RTX 20-series doesn't have that memory problem.
Make sure the extra thermal pads you added have the right thickness and hardness else it can do more harm than good
@@cryspin7 made sure the thickness is correct. I added pads between the anemic pcb plate and the actual heatsink
nice repair
Hi, to check what is the liquid to clean away the existing thermal compound on the GPU during 4:22 in the video. Thank you
they improved a lot with 3000 series. didnt know asus had so bad heatsink back then, well, just the 3080, now i went to check, and 3070 has no contact area on hard of the vrm just thermal pads, but no heatsink contact area .... ohh i see, just a separated flat piece of aluminium, cant they design it with some fins? wtf.
So disturbing because tuf 3000 have the best mem and gpu temps, but they don't care too much for half of vrm, just on the 3080
wha... what? so, you went and checked your Asus TUF RTX 3070 and found Asus didn't care about half of VRM? do you mean VRM on the back side/back plate of the PCB? are they even use thermal pads for it?
@@blobhead7 they have a small separated aluminium flat piece. no is not my card, checked on techpowerup review.
didnt see it first, because guru3d review didnt show it
Glad to see how you make this Trash would be card reborn and run like it is new...
Need this for mboards too, still holding on my z94 Hero which is missing a capacitor from installing a new card roughly.
so i got a 2080super a while ago from amazon. it got here and worked for 5 minutes then stopped. I sent it in for warranty and the seller returned it saying i had damaged the card myself because of some slight scuffing on the pcb that fit into the mobo, something I've NEVER EVER EVER done in my 30+ years of computer building, i don't even know how it's possible to mess it up like that tbh, and the scuffs weren't anymore than cosmetic according to my brother who has been hardware tech support for decades now. when he took the heat sink off, he said it looked like it was forced onto place with machine strength, [something my worthless cripple ass aint capable of]and then screwed in even though it wasn't seated correctly, so the memory didn't get any cooling, plus that cosmetic damage. thankfully amazons abc guarantee got me my money back, but I'll flat out never buy anything asus as long as i live after that experience.
It's funny how the "we don't give a damn, here's a new revision" Gigabyte card sucked the least so far in these "you suck" videos, and even that one sucked pretty hard.
It's an outrage what garbage they are selling for astronomical prices.
how much cost those vram replacement? is like 9-$10 per gb? i mean just the vram chips
Do a Galax Hall of Fame, I believe those are best out there ?
Omg I want to learn this.. do you have any classes?????????!!!!
no
sir i have a question on 4:31....why is it that you only put one side of the vram a flux? i have seen some on youtube while removing vram is that they put the whole sides.???
it will flow under and spread
I was wondering what the approximate "market price" is for a single replacement memory chip. I assume they are coming from china?
As an 2070 owner now im curious and also nervious about if my card is nearly to fail, since its still has the sticker but the temps are not higher than 60.
That's saddening. I have an ASUS RTX 2080 SUPER.
Yeap. Better start collecting extra 100 bucks for memory replacement.
Where did you learn these skills and knowledge?
Google
@@northwestrepair Amazing, you'd rather endorse Google! 😆
Oh, my god. This card's thermal design is cursed, not unlike its memory chips.
Does the 2080ti strix have the same problem?
open it and see
Top content again!
So this is the reason why early 20 series cards were failing! Thank you!
Yes
Holt shit I can't be the only one wondering why my founders 1080 8gb is still kicking no problem when these new gpus explode just months in
every consumer electronic device that has ever existed in this world typically has/had a 1 - 3% failure rate (unless there's a serious design/production flaw, in which case the failure rate is higher). Overall, that means that the vast majority do tend to work for a very long time.
Just wondering why you don't replace and then test to avoid replacing everything? Aren't these memory chips not too cheap?
I have a 1080ti and the memory runs hotter than it should
They also make the same mistake on the 3090 tuf
I'm starting to think that since the 2000 series, everything has been rushed and probably all parties involved this by design.
Do those Memory chips have a Orientation when placing down on PCB ?
Yep, you can look up pin diagrams for these things, some memory chips are reversible so you can put them on the back side of a board. Most chips will have datasheets published with the pin configuration.
Just curious. Can you double the vram on 3060 ti or 3070? Or 3080 10gb? If so how much cost the procedure?
I never have but according to diagrams it is possible.
It would cost 30 bucks per 2gb memory chip plus fix fee.
Not reasonable at all unless you need a workstation GPU. Than it will make sense because otherwise you would have to pay hundreds more for a workstation GPU.
Can't spell "ASUS" without "sus"
Did the memory chips come with solder balls already attached? When I normally watch people do this stuff, they have to re-ball the chips (either with paste or premade balls. Didn't see anything like that here.
with balls already
Does this go for the 1080 Advance strix ..
I had one starting crapping out before my warranty expired sent it in they sent me a dirty dusty replacement .. witch only lasted 3 weeks and then would crash now I no longer get image .. but it seems they are programmed to die with in time to purchase a new one .. by then my warranty expired and I was left with a brick and this was during the pandemic no gpu for me for over a year don’t remember how long . Asus did me wrong there anyone else have issues with Their 1080strix Avance 8gb. It was upsetting to receive a dusty card back when mine was clean. Warranty experience as upsetting .
What do you use the carburetor clean for and sometimes WD-14 spray? Is it used to clean boards? Is that safe...for the board I mean?
Board does not talk back. I guess it's safe 😂
You need to be really careful with chemicals. Anything that contains alcohol eats into rubber and plastic. Always go for the minimum. Try a dry rag first, then a damp rag, etc... If you need to use some type of chemical to clean with, use brake clean. But, again, you have to be careful because not all brake clean is the same. There's 2 kinds. One has that carb cleaner, flammable smell to it. Don't use it. You want the kind that doesn't have that odor to it. If anything needs to be lubed, use something that doesn't conduct electricity or eat into plastics. Use silicone or dielectric grease.
Auto parts stores are required to keep MSD (material safety data) sheets for all the chemicals they sell. If you are not sure, ask for one. It tells you everything you need to know about what's in a product.
Wouldn't it be cheaper and overall a better idea to just get a new graphics card instead of replacing the memory chips?
depends on the card.
Is it always the 2018 SK Hynix chips that had caused artifacts?
If so, why is it a joke that it's deliberate?
Or do they have a defect?
Micron, not hynix. Hynix is even worse from what I heard from other repair guys.
@@northwestrepair What's your personal exp. with Samsung's?
I'm on the hunt for an oem RTX 2060. They're small by comparison to AIB cards. Many of them that I'm finding on ebay are listed as "for parts". Then when I read the description it'll say "card boots but crashes when stressed", or something similar. I'm going to get one and see if I can fix it. I'm going to learn to do this. Do the early 2060's have the same micron memory issues?
3060s are also small.
@@northwestrepair Yeah, They're also out of my price range. At least for now.
dammit azeus.... But why do you just put it back together? Shouldn't you attempt to ghetto something to cool the mem properly?
Actually i did. I dont know why i dont have it on the video but i did put a very thick pad so it would contact the radiator.
Should help to keep it cool.
So according to your experience, Which brand makes best graphics cards?
You need to switch brand. My guess is AMD cards made by sapphire.
All brands make a bad model from time to time. Just do reasearch on all brands of a model you are interested in and find the best one for the money
@@GewelReal Might be so but example if research every "high end" sapphire card. Lets say past 5 or so years. They seem to be good build quality overall aka memory have proper cooling contacts/design etc.
There is no brand that is perfect, and no faults.
Sapphire makes the best GPUs, tho they only make AMD Radeon cards.
Where do you even get replacement memory from?
Communist china.
Who would you buy a card from now that EVGA is gone?
there are still plenty of EVGA brand new cards on the market.
Question: I am really interested in Computer or Electronics repairs. What do you recommend me to do or to take ? Course? Institution?
i googled everything i know
@@northwestrepair Damn Son, nice!!!
How much did it cost?
I always wondered, is it possible to add more vram to a GPU if it has an empty slot or no.
I assume that it could work, but would require the bios to be modded, or just not work at all.
no its not. bios will not take it into account and board does not have complete circuit to operate them.
@@northwestrepair Thank you for the information
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was this fixed in the 3070 TI?
💪👍👍👍
Yet another preventable failure if they did a better job in the factory....
What do you think of Asus strix 3080 12gb?
If i had one, it would be part 3
@@northwestrepair for what reason?
@@northwestrepair anyway, I own the card and I have to say it's excellent. it does suffer from coil whine, but I have tested for all other complaints (fan rattle, etc) and haven't found any. great card, super fast
Never even considered buying anything from a company with SUS in its name!
what did the memory cost?
I see them for around $9 a pop on ali
Lucky me i have Samsung memory ^^.
Is the Asus rx 6800 safe to buy?
Could you help me with repairing a graphic card its zotac gtx 960 4gb????
no i dont do old cards. they are not worth shipping label
@@northwestrepair no no I was asking that is there any schematic or bdv available?
you can upgrade my 3070ti 8gb memory to 16gb?
I dont know. Maybe if core supports 2GB modules.
We call em *A-SUS* round here