Does ASUS makes good graphics cards ? Part 3 3060ti tuf
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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Dude that reball looks like it wasn't worth the price of that card... Such an amazing amount of pristine work can't be cheap. But we'll, at least you saved some silicon from the landfill!
i am cheap
@@northwestrepair if i ever fry a card wherever you are in the world i will ship it to you just because i appreciate your hard work. amazing how much waste we deal these days because we don't have skilled people like you!
There is a funny but true story about painter Josip Generalic, a customer came to his shop, and ordered a painting of a rooster in his famous style, he replied to his customer come again here in two weeks...after two weeks the customer returned and asked for the rooster painting and Generalic told him to sit and have a cup of coffee and a biscuit and within one hour he started painting and finished the painting of the rooster, he did it in front of his customer. The customer was startled and asked for the price and Generalic told him 10000 DEM (german marks, a lot of money in late 80s). The customer was upset and said 10000 DEM for an hour of work it is too much and wise Generalic replied, "it took me 30 years of practice to be able to finish this kind of work within an hour", the ashamed customer paid 15000 DEM...:D
That is some precision work, which looks easy in the video, but really isn't. Good work.
@@northwestrepair I love your content and the work you do. Nothing about it is cheap. Inexpensive? Sure, especially for the quality/awesome work that you do for gamers.
Its insane to me how many corner manufacturers cut corners on cooling important components on GPUs.
You did a wonderful job bringing this GPU back to life
My Asus Dual RX6600XT cooler itself is fragile. That thing starts bending or breaking, once you start looking at it. Some cheaper GPUs have better cooling.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq MSI RX 580 ARMOR is a fine example of gutting cooling.
I worked PC repair for Geek Squad a couple years back, and every PC that wouldnt display had that gpu in it.
I got one to boot and it would hit 80 running Valley benchmark
@@kokumosu yep they make on purpose these things to brake so we can spend more money , rx 580 nitro have same problem they make fans to start spin when temp hit 65 c ????? they are crazy and of course they cannot cool down anything at that temp and it just raises ??? and even fan rpm is ridiculous they make them spin on 800-900 rpm on 65 c ?? i had to make my own custom fan speed and now it is ok temps don't go over 65c max and i made max rpm 1500 it is enough .
I am completely astonished! The precision and care of every job is so much worth the watch. Thanks for sharing!!
Thank you very much!
Such an amazing job! Can't believe how much work you put into this. You bring back so many GPUs from the dead...
Kind of ironic that ASUS call this line TUF Gaming and more often than not they're not tough at all.
It´s TUF, not TOUGH 😉 AKA marketing BS.
They should call this the Asus Tuff luck.
TUF is just a cheap line up from ASUS. they never intended it to work better.
The process of reballing a gpu is so cool I always get amazed by it does not matter how many times I watch it, I wish there was some electronics master is my city, I would gladly try to learn to fix gpus. That process of reballing is simply fascinating and always blows me away. The precision is just astounding.
This! It's almost like watching a watch-maker do a service/clean on a nice mechanical watch. Kinda soothing in a weird way. Although I'd still love to know what exactly is involved in the process of reballing that GPU.
It’s unfortunate EVGA no longer produces graphics cards, very informative channel. Will remember for future repairs…
You are reballing the GPU with a Puhui T8280 and a 858D hot air station???
You're very talented bro! It's really difficult to do that with those tools.
I was an electronic tech in the Navy for 20 years and I am really enjoying watching someone that does such fine work.
GPU MANUFACTURES HATE THIS MAN
Trying to correct that one ball... what a frustration. A clear case of "fixing one problem with two new ones"...
Actually I accidently touched the core at least twice knocking off several balls.
Instead of a 19 minute solder job, it took 30 minutes moving balls around.
Wow nice job reballing. That was deft and skillful.
Thanks 👍
Pro tip, do a quick scan of all companies featured in this chanel and the one with te least videos made on, *buy its entire stock*
10:24 That dark spot is from the oil that thermal pads make after some time
I thought all the time since 2015 that ASUS is the best manufacturer of PC components (MB, graphics cards, LAN cards, routers etc) . But you show us an evidence that proves the very opposite, which is really gold worth. I want to see you collaborating/discussing with "Gamers Nexus" or/and "Actually Hardcore Overclocking".
Also, I'd like to see you analyzing/repairing PCB of e.g. smartphones and tablets (if you could), which could lead to a new finding against typical beliefs toward smart device brands. Anyway, your channel is more worthy than a text!
I have always tinkered with electronics
I don't have all these tools but I am glad to see this content and the process done in such a professional way.
Gives me hope. LOL
I dont like button videos but u r soo good just subbed and love ur work man. Am sure i will be using ur service thank u
Welcome aboard!
Take that ,Asus card:))). Your skill, patience,stamina and perseverence is admirable,well done.
7:32 the moment I give up LOL.. Great job as always !
Bro , you are straight and amazing person
hope you have more subscribers i have learned a lot because of you thank you for the free learning.
9:02 I really like that you are happy about this
when I could accomplish this, I would be REALLY happy for at least a week
cool thing about you, I feel like I can at least try with some old cards with the guidance of your videos, I feel like their are really good, not only from what you do (the repair itself) but also the format and that you explain why you do what - please keep this up
I watched half of your videos last night(edit: only 4 left), for entertainment and learning
awsome work! . . . love this channel!
Thank you very much!
I really appreciate what you are doing here.
Glad to hear it
The GPU reminds me of an RSX. Really liked the video and please keep exposing these manufactures
You deserve 500k subs at least (based on how popular this niche is), I watched a lot of similar channels before but this is on whole new level. Greetings from europe!
Blows my brains this guy... Amazing work bud :D
I discovered your channel recently and I used to watch a couple other channels that do repairs. I think It feels great to repair stuff. And maybe one day I'll buy some equipment to practice desoldering/soldering components. And hopefully one day I'll learn how to reball.
Some people are good what the do and love what they do. 😎👌🏽
Much obliged
Again my best youtbe friend! Thanks for old models,im starting my fixes from old models cause they are cheap to get.
Your videos are amazing, i would love see some cards from sapphire.
I have some. Looks interesting but it's broken none the less.
This is like Discovery's "How It's Made" but a bajillion GPU balls better.
Very informative , guess which brand is off my shopping list..
Just discovered your channel it's great - so therapeutic watching the cards being fixed.
I had to click on this one because I have this exact card! It's currently working fine but is there anything I can do as a preventative measure based on the 3 strikes you pointed out? Is it worth it?
Thanks and love the channel, hopefully you get more subscribers.
Another great video!! I always enjoy these.
I love watching these even though I have no idea what he's talking about or what he's doing.
I watch you because I enjoy your vids......................... Yes, I learn some things but not a lot as I'm not a wizard like you!!!!!!! smiles....... Just so fascinating seeing a re-ball and chip replacements plus you tell just the truth about heat distribution, thermal pad sizing etc, and plus where thermal pads are required..... Yup, you're a wizard indeed... I look forward to your next vid... What I want to know is, what is the best graphics card out there currently, which is affordable and reliable for SECOND LIFE as second life just eats graphics boards for breakfast "due to the mesh lag" and gives artefacts..... I'm changing my computer and it will have an EVGA GPU, just because you recommended them and yes I know they are going out of business..... I also know what to look for when I strip a card down thermal paste and pads wise....... So yes wizard, we learn different things every time with your wonderful vids... Thanks mate..... Oops Sorry, Wizzard............. lol.... cheers... PS You're in America so can't send my repairs to you which is a shame... Keep up the great work..... I'll tell you a secret, I did not know CPUs and all that could be repaired until I saw you pop up on my screen, so it is important the guys like you promote that tech is repairable or can be salvage doners... I'm 70 years old nearly and I learn something new every day.....
A master at work!
Holy shit that is one amazing job. The reball looked like a pain in the ass, lol.
Dang. You’re awesome.
How long does it take to fix it?
How much do the customer’s pay?
wow this inspire me to get a course like this..thanks for the information you provide :)
thank you..
well if I ever need a video card fixed.. you're my guy
I'm "ok" with soldering and am handy at fixing things but I just keep thinking if I tried to do any of this you'd never see your card again.
Great work amazing vid
Thanks!
You got balls reballing that GPU sir, trully a mastery!!
No idea what you're doing but the macro liquid video clips are super cool
Great video. Thanks for uploading. Question, is there anything you can do to improve the cooling on that memory phase area where the dark spot was? Could the owner buy an aftermarket GPU cooler that has cooling in that area? It's a shame Asus does this.
Bend radiator flat in the area of the contact with the bracket underneath.
Stack 2 3mm thick pads.
Amazing work as always!!!
Oh man. I have this exact model and the warranty is about to expire in a few weeks. :( I'm not qualified enough to try to improve the cooling by myself. I just hope it doesn't break with something similar to this, because all the shops around here won't even try to fix it. Do you have any "twin brothers" in Europe? :D And I bought this card, because I though it was well built with very good cooling. :/
I've only just purchased mine, but I'm having no issues with temps so I thought the cooling was good as well. I'm wondering how to get the same kind of maintenance as well.
I'm sure you get asked this a lot, but who taught you to do all this? It's so hypnotic and satisfying to watch!
Internet
@@northwestrepair Actually just saw one of your newer vids answered my question right after I typed this! Haha
Great video, but why not try to reflow with high quality flux before making the decision to do a full reballing? give this guy a beer and a Zhuomao/Seamark station he deserve it for sharing his knowledge
I use high quality flux.
Reflow needs higher temperatures then to simply remove and reball.
I am trying to make as little damage as possible.
Nicely Done ✔️
Thanks 🔥
ASUS Strix 4090 is built like rock. Best stock aircooler on the market.
Would be interesting to see how PowerColor fairs in a video like this.
I have a 5700 XT Red Devil that crashes VERY often, especially when watching video.
Though I will admit, it's my fault. I had a ground issue with my PC that caused a power surge to kill the motherboard and CPU (I had the PC plugged into a power strip that was missing its Ground Prong at the end) and it appears that it partially killed my GPU as well. It functions, and you can use it to watch videos for a good bit, but it will eventually crash multiple times before it finally settles down and starts functioning fine again...
Did you swap the PSU after that surge?
@@Morpheus-pt3wq Yup. I used to have a Corsair CX650 Bronze, upgraded to a Seasonic Focus GX-850 Gold.
I ended up putting my 5700 XT aside and am currently using a GTX 980 while I think about what to do. Have had 0 crashes ever since making that change.
Because it's shitty, disposable garbage AMD
It may be the drivers. What drivers did you use if you remember? The drivers aren't stable for couple of months already (they used to crash only without restarting PC), would suggest you on trying out 22.10.3 optional or PRO edition of drivers (since it's more tested compared to normal ones) or even trying out recommended if you didn't use them
@@IceSlash Yeah, I've tried plenty of different drivers and the same issue happens ever time. Tried different VBIOS as well as motherboard BIOSs, still rebooting constantly.
I've already verified that it's indeed the GPU since I've tried a few others and it always results in the PC not crashing at all.
I'm sure if I were to open it up or send it in for repair, something in there will be burned up or just dead to cause it to reboot at such completely random intervals.
There was a period where I went almost an entire month without it crashing and I thought it was fixed, only for it to get back into its habit of crashing multiple times per day or a couple times a week.
I have one weird GPU .(Bugged as hell). XfX RX5604G. I would love to send it just for video about it - no return. But i am from EU..
Love your work..
not worth shipping cost
@@northwestrepair
Yea i know. I bet its a hard fix ..
You should make a full guide on were to put thermal pads for ASUS Cards hahaha
Cool video. You put a lot of effort in. I was looking for a good 3060 TI, so... that's a nope on the TUF.
Как показала практика ремонтников асус таф, да и в целом асус это одна из самых надежных версий 3060ти, а так ни кто не застрахован и любая видеокарта может выйти из строя по каким либо причинам
well done tech priest. i wanted to know, what music did you use in this video?
Re-balling those behemoths is such a tedious task. We got the super speed version, but how much does it take you to re-ball a GPU (without the rest of the work involved) ?
Just to put balls on or remove and prep and clean etc ?
No rush maybe couple hours or less if it goes smooth.
Sometimes you have to fight with the bals wondering off.
yeah, basically all manufacturers cheaped out on 3070s tiers and under (as always but this time worse since all these cards were 600$ instead of 250$), 3080 and up version strix, tuf and gamerock should be fine though, at least according from what i've seen from gamersnexus and buildzoid.
I'll leave a like and comment even though I don't learn anything lol.
had the same card, was also artifacting.
Honest question: it's a very recent GPU, that surely is still under warranty. Why would the owner send for complicated repair work (looks complicated to me at elast lol) ? I'm assuming that the job is also cheaper than just buying a new/used one?
I am a huge fan of your content, it's incredible work!
Because I am cheap.
Asus deny warranty thats why happen to me got report card say that even though I had red artifacts
all manufacturers changed warranty terms after the 2018 mining craze, even evga which is (was) supposed to be the best for warranty support
if the owner bought a scalped one off ebay or whatever the warranty is not transferable to second-hand owners. dunno the specific in the states but in EU there's no way around it as purchases are tied to something similar to american SSNs. also they find countless ways to deny warranty. edge of pcb slightly scraped due to factory mounting bracket? warranty denied.
@@jeen0351 AFAIK, in EU, manufacturer must prove the damage was done by customer. You may open the card, repaste it, change thermal pads... after all, it´s your property.
Warranties can get complicated. If you buy used card, you can apply your warranty to the seller, if you have his credentials. Or you can make full contract, as when selling/buying a car, where the seller will transfer all his rights including warranty to you. Manufacturer is obliged to respect that.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq from experience that is not true, and no one on ebay does such a contract (which requires a purchase record with notary , and that'd add a couple hundreds euros). is there an EU law that states what you said? probably. will manufacturers comply? no. will you spend thousands to bring them to court? up to you, but i've yet to see one to this
btw this happened to me a couple months ago for an evga psu which i bought as open box on ebay. after providing purchase invoice providedby ebay, evga still denied my warranty, and they openly said original owner has warranty but i dont.
I'm a precision welder. You are making me look like an orangutan with no feeling.
I thought artifacts are caused by bad solder joints on the core chip. Being an usual issue with the memory makes it, so that like maybe 80%+ of faulty GPU can be repaired without BGA reballing on the core chip - amazing!
You have some mad skills man!
PS. what is the best brand that covers all cooling in your opinion?
Hardware is not really trustworthy, with any manufacturer who focuses on maximizing profits.
Planned obsolescence can be implemented in a number of ways.
Pretty obvious, like badly designed coolers.
Or more inconspicuous, such as Components that are too cheap or not sufficiently specified for a task
(Like minimal permanent overload, that will destroy the component over time).
No such brand exist..they all have their good and bad card.
I love how you keep using that same woman in the thumbnail.
Great video.
Thanks!
Hey Northwestrepair , what steps did u take with reballing the gpu ? I saw u do several layers with the alchohol ,flux and solder until it was like very clean . Im still new to this process ,hoping to understand .Thank you for your video & education !
Need tools and other repairing equipment video you are using at.
I mean a shop tour 😁
10x15 kids bedroom is not a shop.
I have no clue what is going on. Thank you very much
Me neither 😜
Thank you. I learned that Asus don't make the most reliable gpu's.
Too bad you don't repair amd gpu's as well. I'd love to know how Sapphire or Power colour gpu's are related to cooling design and so on.
I bought in 2018, after the last crypto crash, a Sapphire RX 580 8GB. I'm still using it today. I want to upgrade to an EVG RTX 3070, but I live in europe and the prices here are still very high.
It depends on the model. Each manufacturer has some skeletons in closet. Look at Gigabyte Eagle. Plastic backplate...
But even as it is, each GPU has a potential to withstand everything thrown at it. It all depends on luck and invididual quality of each component on it. If you´re unlucky, your GPU will either arrive DOA or die within hours of use. If you´re lucky, the GPU will work for years and refuse to die.
Sometimes, there is a defect hidden somewhere, which passed through QC undetected and it will reveal itself later during use. But that´s why warranties exist.
how long did this take you to fix? what would you charge for a fix like this?
this repair took maybe 3-4 hrs total over the course of 2 days doing it little at the time when i have the time.
Prices are in my discord. link in description
Wow, you even have a GPU size rework/reflow machine. Those machines aren't cheap.
I don't.. all I have is a preheater
At least the memory have proper cooling on this gpu
Looks good and the tuf usually have a lot of metal and less rgb
That housing (which you place on top of the core) with which you desolder-solder the GPU core. Did you make that?
I noticed, you fix your hot air handle on top. But I never saw much of the housing which stands on top of your GPU chip.
baited me so hard with the intro; I have an artificing ASUS STRIX RX 570 on my shelf
not worth the shipping cost.
@@northwestrepair agreed. the dead Zotac 1080 TI Mini and ASUS STRIX 2080 TI's I have are different stories and after watching all your vids I'm hopeful my next attempt to replace their blown memory controller VRM / resistor will go better
Hmm I was planning on buying a 4070 this coming December, guess ASUS is out the question, which Brand would you recommend? coming from a tropical country.
Were those two chips really bad or was it the GPU the entire time?
I think it was the GPU that was bad, i cannot tell 100% because chips that were removed were not put back on.
Also KrisFix Germany said that maths is completely useless for Amepere and newer GPUS
I got a Strix 3080 12 GB a month ago and it's great. Only problem I got with it is the coil whine. It was quite loud. I did an undervolt on it though and that definitely seems to quiet it down quite a bit.
I wish there was a way to get rid of coil whine!
U can claim warranty and get new replacement gpu
That Reball time lapse....I've been there. One solder ball combines with the adjacent one. Trying to wick it causes others to get wicked. Sometimes it's just falling domino's. What temperature do you use for the top hot air when taking off and putting on?
dont care for air temp, i watch the temperature reading from the thermocoupler. Around 250 is when it starts to move around.
@@northwestrepair how about the preheater temperature?
I wish I saw this before I bought my Asus card... How bad are they compared to other brands?
ASUS consistently make shockingly bad cards across generations (their 5700 XTs and 3070 Tis are atrocious) yet somehow command the highest prices. I guess marketing is worth more than making a good product? Meanwhile EVGA went bust.
@@iseeyou1312 nah, that’s NoVidia’s fault that made EVGA bailed the GPU market.
The board its self is not bad at all, rather well made but they lack in cooling for memory phase consistently.
No pad on the back is just a bonus.
I think that depends on who is in charge of designing cooler for each card. Some designs are unexpectedly good for no obvious reason. My Asus Strix 1070 was overengineered (still no pads in the back), Asus R9 280X underengineered and Asus Dual RX6600XT is a mixed bag, but with thermal pads, where they need to be.
Building stuff to break isn't as great a strategy when the customer has other options to go to. My brother and i got 2 computers with Club 3D cards at the same time, and both of them died just around the 2-year mark, exact same way too(JL text spam). If they still made video cards, i'd still refuse to buy them.
yes, thanks youtube, recommending me videos talking about how asus is garbage when im finally happy with a graphics card, the tuf 6900 xt.
evga being out of the picture what brand u think is best right now
👍
just wondering sir what games do you play on your PC now adays ?
Why do I suddenly start to worry for my Asus TUF 3080 OC 10g I bought 2 years ago....
god i miss evga
I have NEVER had an issue with them!
Your videos have shown how much asus dont care about longevity of their expensive products, i for one will not buy Asus or Gigabyte graphics cards ever again, i choose Asrock for my latest gpu purchase a ASRock Taichi 7900xt 🎉😊
1:58 They don't have a bracket like that on their 6800 XT?
Why all the GPU solder problems NVIDIA! Maybe the crap solder no lead??
Good question.
Motherboard use leaded solder but GPUs don't.
It's stupid I think.
Not only cheaper but also very difficult to remove anything.
Is there any advice to prevent this kind of failure from happening? Is it possible to take it to a technician to add some cooling pads?
I've the same gpu but having hynix memory did you repair any tuf 3060ti with hynix memory? Mine is working fine its almost 1y when I bought it and never cross 65c on full load
what are some gpu manufacturers that you recommend? so i know who to avoid
Amazing job sir, may i ask, people say that repaired gpu wont last long and have high possibility to broke again, is that true?
same goes for brand new GPU's. They just break regardless of being brand new or old.
Too old, i can see that being a problem but less then 10 years, age is not a factor.
wow ill never buy an ASUS card along with Gigabyte now. Always had EVGA cards but they no more :( :( Looks like being nVidia Reference in future
This is why I always buy AMD reference cards. They have beefy power stages, there are early vmods if you want to get serious, and there will ALWAYS be coolers/blocks that support it and first. AND they cost way less than the crap from the AIBs which they bin your chip. I've won sillicon lottery twice out of 5-6 flagship cards in my life, and they both were reference cards. I've only ever had one 'lemon' ref card which wouldn't OC much and that was the X800XT, because they binned them to make the PE model that couldn't be bought in my country, or I would've bought it.
Always buy reference. They are not binned to make the 100 different XTX TOP HHO NWO OMG versions, each with an increasing price.
I have a Colorful 3060 Ti. So far so good since the 2 years of ownership. I just replaced the thermal paste and the temps are good as new. But I would like to know if you have any experience with Colorful and if they have any bad qualities?
If you have hynix memory on it's awaiting failure.
@@erminbajric4633 It's a Samsung memory.