your speculation is kind of ridiculous sometime. undead is where ya jumped to on this one? we've seen the arathi are now a hybrid race of half elves, so wouldn't you think the obvious answer to how the emperor of the arathi has ruled for 300 years is that he's a half elf with a 500 year+ lifespan, and not an undead human? ...i do enjoy hearing your wild theories enough though to keep clicking the vids haha.
Wouldnt be be plausible that the arathi leader is half elven considering that they migrated to there new nation with the elves therefore extending his lifespan considering elves can live for upto a 1000 years
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking the entire video. I thought there was a line saying that they’ve also only had 1 emperor too somewhere. Might have misremembered that though.
Definitely could be possible, not sure how half human half elf variation would affect the life span. It's interesting that he has the name Thoradin which is of the strictly human emperor.
Stupid theory: He is nathrezim, and this arathi empire is where denathrius is hiding, and getting ready for the final war. The nathrezim have a infiltrator in the ranks of the light, everyone thinks its Lothraxion, but he is too obvious. Besides the nathrezim have been meddling with mortals before, so it would only make sense they did that to the most powerful empire too.
He could be being kept alive by the Light, akin to what happened to Turalyon. You know, that other guy who is big into the Holy Light and has lived through a thousand years of warfare.
Yup ffxivs gonna cause this too without goodvreason..And they don't just go to the moon but ends of the universe and back in a ship..and to other realities annnd just pop in and outta the moon now like "oh we need some advice..lets talk to old dude on the moon" becomes common How tf is the whole planet not just a few seconds away bar ancient tech/magic blocking us..and even then at a certain point that becones questionable
Considering that many of the Arathi seem to be half-elves, it wouldn't be insane to think that this Thoradin, might be a half-elf, since even 500 years doesn't sound to unfeasible for them.
The thing the bothers me about the light undead is when shadow raises the undead they are usually mindless. Sure there are intelligent undead like Arthas, but like Arthas, who is REALLY in control. If their emperor died the light could very well be in control of him and the "him" of him just using his memories. He might just be a puppet.
They really need to do the light empire right. Like, if we get to this new continent and find a bunch of narru just chilling with the humans, waiting for the void invasion, while we have been dealing with burning crusade, mists, legion, and shadowlands, I'd be a little pissed. They sent that expedition to kazelgar 15 years before we find them. That's a lot of time for that empire to be sitting on their asses while the world around them fights battle after battle. Like, if you think about it, the end theme of every expansion is the same, fighting for azeroth... while the rest of the undiscovered world dicks around
Haven't read anything about the Arathi yet, but would have been cool if the reveal was they were all "undead" and the same people who arrived XXX years ago kept immortal by prolonged exposure to the crystal. Still the idea that someone was undead sounds amazing balls.
wouldn't surprise me, when we met the undead in the priory.... it reminded me of the scarlet crusade monastery (secret room where the undead was). yeah... hoping they don't go down that road. it'd be nice to see the humans as the bad guys in a brand new landmass though since high elves have now appeared properly again in the embassy in dornogal... maybe that's a hint...
if you have ever watched Stargate SG1 they remind me of the Ori, a race of holy-fire powered ascended beings that force lower beings into to servitude through fear and intimidation by performing miracles and they grow strong with more believers.
Meh undead can be good and idk if the light has been “good” in a long while at this point, they often force their way and attack anyone who doesn’t agree with
You know what would be a cool change of pace? The light empire formally joins the alliance/horde struggle emperor and all as a strategic ally… I’m bored sick of the same old: [big bad king/queen oppressor we must stop him/ ra ra monarchy bad monarchy bad - hey remember… monarchy bad] Enough already I want to run into battle alongside a fantasy king and the elite forces, why can’t they just be written as good guys like varian wrynn or something? We could have a new Mage style class that focuses around light/fire and maybe light/arcane… seriously the alliance/horde are full of questionable moral classes and downright evil classes like shadow priests, demon hunters & warlocks, bloodthirsty warriors, murderous rogues, etc… why can’t fire/light worshippers join up too? Why is there a freaking hold up ?????? Arguably their morals are probably better than whatever bullshit the alliance/horde have- savage ape honor?? Wtf even is that?? Alliance doesn’t even know what Azeroth is to even understand what they’re protecting? At best it’s light priests & paladins that direct the morals of the alliance originally anyway What the F, these should be our allies like how pandaren were both faction & a new civilization basically
Do you think it’s possible that these arathi are actually from an alternate universe? Like the one connected to au draenor? If the orcs never came through the dark portal then the first war never happened meaning the human kingdoms probably flourished. Ner’zul died on Draenor so maybe even the Scourge never happened. Which is also good for the elves. Maybe without those wars the human and elves got even closer. Which would explain why we see a lot of half elves. The light also completely takes over Draenor in that timeline so maybe it has a stronger presence in that timeline. The light sent the Arathi here to stop Xalatath across time and space! Also Arthas is the light emperor!
@@antonkorolev4740 "They savor nothing more than being proved right, so if they believe they have converted one of us to their precious Light, they will trust that agent implicitly." sounds like a dreadlord in the lights ranks to me.
Pls Not again undead Stories pls Not again sylvanas in my opinion We Had enough of Stories about undead ..dead, somehow dead , light dead ITS so boring ...
I hate how Blizzard makes players not choosing their way ! We will have to follow the renegates, and fight against established order, and I hate this so much ! What if I want to serve the Light and the Emperor ? This time, we have a badass guy, and we must fight him, it's stupid ! And I don't want to fight with "african" light knights too ! How a human mix between Lothar or Arathi empiremen with elves could make african men with pointed ears ? It's one more time completely stupid ! Blizzard, give us our occidental fantasy back !
How do you think he is being kept alive for so long? Also get amazing deals with my discount code 'DORON' gvo.deals/Doron
My question is, why does only Calia get to be a hot big booba lightforged undead while the new ones look like corpses?
your speculation is kind of ridiculous sometime. undead is where ya jumped to on this one? we've seen the arathi are now a hybrid race of half elves, so wouldn't you think the obvious answer to how the emperor of the arathi has ruled for 300 years is that he's a half elf with a 500 year+ lifespan, and not an undead human? ...i do enjoy hearing your wild theories enough though to keep clicking the vids haha.
Wouldnt be be plausible that the arathi leader is half elven considering that they migrated to there new nation with the elves therefore extending his lifespan considering elves can live for upto a 1000 years
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking the entire video. I thought there was a line saying that they’ve also only had 1 emperor too somewhere. Might have misremembered that though.
Definitely could be possible, not sure how half human half elf variation would affect the life span. It's interesting that he has the name Thoradin which is of the strictly human emperor.
Elves don't live up to 1000 years, they easily live over 1000 years, coupled with Light powers, a half elf can easily live over half a millennium.
Stupid theory: He is nathrezim, and this arathi empire is where denathrius is hiding, and getting ready for the final war. The nathrezim have a infiltrator in the ranks of the light, everyone thinks its Lothraxion, but he is too obvious. Besides the nathrezim have been meddling with mortals before, so it would only make sense they did that to the most powerful empire too.
No because Elf's are beta
He could be being kept alive by the Light, akin to what happened to Turalyon.
You know, that other guy who is big into the Holy Light and has lived through a thousand years of warfare.
> Unreachable continent due to lack of technology
> Flies spaceship to another planet
Yup ffxivs gonna cause this too without goodvreason..And they don't just go to the moon but ends of the universe and back in a ship..and to other realities annnd just pop in and outta the moon now like "oh we need some advice..lets talk to old dude on the moon" becomes common
How tf is the whole planet not just a few seconds away bar ancient tech/magic blocking us..and even then at a certain point that becones questionable
Yesssss 😂😂😂
They better have some amazing cooked up as the explanation 😂😂😂
When the famous painter dissappeared, they actually escaped to azeroth
It's not the right technology. it's a pretty simple explanation. You don't walk thru fog using a hammer as a flashlight.
A Light emperor that is a undead??? Some Warhammer vibes here....
My dude - the Sacred Flame is the Light equivalent of Shadow Flame.
Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing
the light of elune ? that Gandalf used agenst Balrog ? the holy flame of andur or some shit ? 😂 that holy flame ?
"Empires are bad. Kingdoms are good." - HCBaily
Considering that many of the Arathi seem to be half-elves, it wouldn't be insane to think that this Thoradin, might be a half-elf, since even 500 years doesn't sound to unfeasible for them.
Didn’t they leave with elves, if they were having children together it’s plausible that their lifespan has increased
This is really fcking awkward for the scarlet crusade.
Isn't it far more likely that Thoradin is a half elf? Hence the long life?
Following the lead on how to create a title, let's post the news "Tyralyon is UNDEAD! The Alliance's BIGGEST SECRET!"...
@Doronsmovies If the Arathi were made of Humans and Elves.. is it possible that he's Half Elf? and has a longer life?
Light Forged Lich King? Break Glass in case LK 1 and 2.0 don't work? If Lothaxion is not a high advisor or just chillin there idk wtf is going on.
Hell yea
The lightforged Emporor Thoradin was in a long term battle against the Sanguine Vampire elves
The thing the bothers me about the light undead is when shadow raises the undead they are usually mindless. Sure there are intelligent undead like Arthas, but like Arthas, who is REALLY in control. If their emperor died the light could very well be in control of him and the "him" of him just using his memories. He might just be a puppet.
Or he's a Calia thing
War Within is like the WH 40k expansion. The Earthen are very Adeptus Mechanicus and if they do go an Undead Emperor of Light, come on now.
1 month left babyyyyy
They really need to do the light empire right. Like, if we get to this new continent and find a bunch of narru just chilling with the humans, waiting for the void invasion, while we have been dealing with burning crusade, mists, legion, and shadowlands, I'd be a little pissed. They sent that expedition to kazelgar 15 years before we find them. That's a lot of time for that empire to be sitting on their asses while the world around them fights battle after battle. Like, if you think about it, the end theme of every expansion is the same, fighting for azeroth... while the rest of the undiscovered world dicks around
I was there, the day Dorons slew the Emperor
Haven't read anything about the Arathi yet, but would have been cool if the reveal was they were all "undead" and the same people who arrived XXX years ago kept immortal by prolonged exposure to the crystal. Still the idea that someone was undead sounds amazing balls.
wouldn't surprise me, when we met the undead in the priory.... it reminded me of the scarlet crusade monastery (secret room where the undead was). yeah... hoping they don't go down that road. it'd be nice to see the humans as the bad guys in a brand new landmass though since high elves have now appeared properly again in the embassy in dornogal... maybe that's a hint...
if you have ever watched Stargate SG1 they remind me of the Ori, a race of holy-fire powered ascended beings that force lower beings into to servitude through fear and intimidation by performing miracles and they grow strong with more believers.
i hope he is lightforged, this shit of light undead is one of the dumbest shit they created
just retcon shadowlands and make calia lightforhed
This could be very exciting regarding Calia Menethil
No she will not be getting and vitamin D this expansion
Twenty bucks he turns out to be a dreadlord who infiltrated the Arathi empire in order to manipulate one of the Light armies with domination magic.
Reminds me of The King in Yellow (Collection of Books/Poems) (aka Hastur) within the Cthulhu Mythos.
Doron, what is Medivh doing out there? We know he's still alive in some form somewhere. What could he be doing?
Bro wtf this is so cooooool
Didn't know Blizzard could still do interesting storytelling hehe after MoP and such, love your vids man ^^
I dearly hope forsaken will not go this light undead route because it will kill their cool original vibes for good
Meh undead can be good and idk if the light has been “good” in a long while at this point, they often force their way and attack anyone who doesn’t agree with
Bro wtf is that weird ass goofy music in the background? Baaaaaad.
what do yall think this new continent would look like before the sundering or emerald dream
As in Thoradin's Wall?
Hot damn!
That's the original Thoradin. This is Thoradin the 15th. Not the same guy, but it is the same lineage (afawk)
@NostraDavid2 the same one from Knights of the Round attack?
@@NostraDavid2 I had a suspicion that was the case.
Still never know with the light undead BS
So the arathi emperor is the god emperor of mankind… seems legit.
Elves live l9ng too, what of he's half elf
Don't the elves live long too?
Emperor is naaru
You know what would be a cool change of pace? The light empire formally joins the alliance/horde struggle emperor and all as a strategic ally… I’m bored sick of the same old:
[big bad king/queen oppressor we must stop him/ ra ra monarchy bad monarchy bad - hey remember… monarchy bad]
Enough already I want to run into battle alongside a fantasy king and the elite forces, why can’t they just be written as good guys like varian wrynn or something? We could have a new Mage style class that focuses around light/fire and maybe light/arcane… seriously the alliance/horde are full of questionable moral classes and downright evil classes like shadow priests, demon hunters & warlocks, bloodthirsty warriors, murderous rogues, etc… why can’t fire/light worshippers join up too? Why is there a freaking hold up ??????
Arguably their morals are probably better than whatever bullshit the alliance/horde have- savage ape honor?? Wtf even is that??
Alliance doesn’t even know what Azeroth is to even understand what they’re protecting? At best it’s light priests & paladins that direct the morals of the alliance originally anyway
What the F, these should be our allies like how pandaren were both faction & a new civilization basically
OR he a half elf or elf just like all the other Arathi...why would he be undead 😂
Warhammer
Nothing make sense anymore. Right is wrong and wrong is right.
The light should bring about perfection not undead abomination.
The light is a tool not an absolute.
I guess third?
Do you think it’s possible that these arathi are actually from an alternate universe? Like the one connected to au draenor?
If the orcs never came through the dark portal then the first war never happened meaning the human kingdoms probably flourished. Ner’zul died on Draenor so maybe even the Scourge never happened. Which is also good for the elves.
Maybe without those wars the human and elves got even closer. Which would explain why we see a lot of half elves.
The light also completely takes over Draenor in that timeline so maybe it has a stronger presence in that timeline. The light sent the Arathi here to stop Xalatath across time and space!
Also Arthas is the light emperor!
what about lothraxion? lol way more logical in lore.
That would be fun to find out in the end (bazinga!) that it was Lothraxion all this time))
@@antonkorolev4740 "They savor nothing more than being proved right, so if they believe they have converted one of us to their precious Light, they will trust that agent implicitly." sounds like a dreadlord in the lights ranks to me.
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Pls Not again undead Stories pls Not again sylvanas in my opinion We Had enough of Stories about undead ..dead, somehow dead , light dead ITS so boring ...
I hate how Blizzard makes players not choosing their way ! We will have to follow the renegates, and fight against established order, and I hate this so much ! What if I want to serve the Light and the Emperor ? This time, we have a badass guy, and we must fight him, it's stupid ! And I don't want to fight with "african" light knights too ! How a human mix between Lothar or Arathi empiremen with elves could make african men with pointed ears ? It's one more time completely stupid ! Blizzard, give us our occidental fantasy back !
Were not dupposed to have functioning brains when it comes to matters of black people
Corpse emperor's is a warhammer thing
yep still not coming back bro