Is it out of question to look into - The Semmelweis Reflex,,, for what might answer your Doctors reluctance to consider your significant improvements of your CognitiveI.Q.
I received the same lack of curiosity from my psychiatrist. After he saw me as a patient in severe suffering for years, when I became well, he began to question whether I was ever sick. And this was a decent doctor who was very conservative in his approach to prescribing medication. 😢 I wish he was excited to help his other patients experience the profound transformation I had!
You raise a good point in your second sentence: when a non-mainstream treatment ends up working well, the response is to question the validity of the diagnosis (i.e., whether the patient was faking illness) as opposed to regarding evidence of positive outcomes as a contribution to the field. It's disappointing to see psychiatry operating on the principle that "the person is the problem" in order to avoid culpability for its own missteps and poor judgment calls.
@@kaitlinwalley2985 This is a typical response among psychotherapists as well. If something works, but doesn’t fit the training a professional received, it tends to create cognitive dissonance and takes away power. The professional doesn’t have control anymore, so attacks the credibility of the client.
This approach (ignoring/dismissing/having a bias against anything but medication-centred treatment) really should be considered malpractice in my opinion - the best interests of the patient aren't actually being considered.
I can totally relate to the adulting process. I live with my parents, and they see me getting better on medical keto. They are gradually letting me take on more of the responsibility I would ideally be handling on my own. Mom doesn’t fold my laundry as much, help me with dishes as much, they ask me to watch my nephews on my own when my sister drops them off for a few hours. At first I was like “what?” But I honestly wouldn’t have it any other way. Happy Anniversary Rob and Lauren!
I'm so proud of you! Keep pushing and believe in remission! Metabolic health is the baseline of everything. Don't fall of the wagon.. ever! There's no taste worth it to make yourself sick again. Also ancestral foods rich in fats and proteins are what the human kind evolved on. Our body and mind prefers it. We're just conditioned through colorful advertisement that sugary grain based junk food is for pleasure. It's not! We started to eat grain to not starve.. some time ago no one would have chosen cereal over animal fats..
@@PalinaZ i am not trying to convince anyone to eat carbs, however human kind also evolved on carbs, rice, pasta, bread, fruits are heavily present in human history.
I’m a 61-year-old man whose sister has been battling this illness for 40 years -I’m in tears watching your success story wishing that my Sister could do the same. She’s in an….institution….. I’m glad at least someone escaped the criminal matrix of our modern medical system…..😢❤❤❤❤
I feel your pain. My 65 yr old husband has suffered that long, as well. Unfortunately, there is no way that he would have the discipline/motivation to adhere to this regimented diet. I watch him suffer daily from scary delusions and voices.
Hey… I have been watching your videos for years.. and I also was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder. I used to be addicted to drugs and the drugs triggered my schizophrenia. I made a video about it thanks to you for motivating me to share my experience. Thank you for everything you do and I believe mental health awareness is something we should all talk about. Thanks again.
Thank you so much for normalizing schizophrenia and mental health in general . You guys have shown me how to help my 23 yr old son and I navigate this new phase in life and what options are out there. So far we have only been thrown. A ton of different meds and so he does believe he has a problem Hold space for you and grateful for your help in our journey and wish you the best yours.
I'm also shocked at your psychiatrist's lack of interest in this, I mean this is huge, you have put your schizoaffective disorder into remission! Like wow 🤯 I'm delighted for you and grateful that you are sharing your journey, it's inspiring ❤ As someone who has battled depression all my life I know I am seriously considering trying this because of your experience and how effective it has been.
YOU GIVE YOURSELF THE RIGHT TO BE POWERFULLY PROUD YOU have kicked this to the kerb, give the diet thumbs up if you like but speaking from experience we destroy ourselves and we restore ourselves. You’ve done this girl, you made the decision to get well. Thank goodness more information is available now, wish my mum along with everyone else had access to internet years ago. We’re learning all the time and will continue to do so. I couldn’t be happier for you 🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️
Re: the Psychiatrist lack of reaction - hate to be jaded, but the remission was not due to something he was involved with, right? But I assure you, I am almost brought to tears with every video these past few months. I'm a mental health Educator in Ontario (Family Support) and I have been watching you since day one! Your courage and commitment and willingness to share this journey and this new treatment option is outstanding for the community and the Science and the movement. These vids will be referred back to YEARS from now as the world catches up and learns from your work. You are changing the world Lauren! And some professionals ARE watching every step with admiration and gratitude 🙏 xoxo deNISE
I am a social worker in New York. I’ve worked with clients swallowed up by the current system. Watched Lauren for years now. Your psychiatrist may not be curious. I know i am watching your bravery and care through this process.
Yes, I second that. Lauren is very inspirational and very generous to share her difficult, successful journey. My daughter, named Lauren too, is still suffering with the same illness and experiencing non response, indifference and rejection from the medical community. Such apathy is devastating. Lauren you are a hero! Keep going!
Good point Rob, it is evident in the clinical healthcare industry that we have to depend on our personal advocacy. That requires us to basically educate ourselves to communicate up to the point of being close to a clinician as well. That is what has impressed me so much with this journey, Lauren and Rob had to get into the trenches to go toe to toe with the providers. You are both inspiring humans! ✌🏽
Yes, when Rob said, “this should really be patient-led,” I was jumping for joy that someone without a mental illness could see this important truth. It’s so silencing to know this logic in your bones without having any outlet (surveys, client liaison, exit interview) for input to providers on what works and what doesn’t. As a result, people continued to be offered the same old “best practices” (as defined by ??) help that isn’t actually helpful, and leads to despair and disempowerment.
@@80islandia I was a nurse in pediatrics from about '66-'76. I remember once a conversation with a Dr. about "why don't they try lung transplant with kids who have Cystic Fibrosis"? He gave me a look that said that would never be an option. Many years later they did and it helped many kids live longer. Now, due to new medications and treatments there are many adults 40+ years old with CF. New things take time, but most need trailblazers like Lauren to get the ball rolling!!
It's so incredible to see how you two are able to be so open and honest with each other and talk about the difficult and challenging things, the painful things - it's inspiring frankly to see that you two are able to talk about these things - even being honest in terms of feelings of resentment, and not say them in an angry way but completely calm communication. So rare!
I liked that too! Emotions like resentment are very difficult to pinpoint let alone talk about, so it was great to see a healthy example of an honest discussion between two people who genuinely care about each other and want to work through things.
So happy for you! One thing that have struck me since I've been following you is how structured you are. You sleep well, you eat healthy, excersise. You're so much in control. You put in a lot of work. I don't know many people that are like you. Even when I used to work with people diagnosed with schizophrenia they were not nearly as held together as you are. It's not easy what you're doing and I wish all people were as focused and goal oriented as you are. Schizophrenia or not. I could never do what you're accomplishing.
She is totally amazing human being!! I To am blown away how much she does and what a honest beautiful soul and blessing to this world… Spot on and with what you said .. Ty
thats because of the anti psycotic medication. on some days I am so unmotivated all i can do is lay on the couch. I do voluntary work but sustaining work is not possible.
Amazing to think back to the time i watched your video when you were an inpatient on the psych ward... you really were suffering and now in this video you are thriving, blooming, you look so healthy... it is your life❤ love to you all❤
My guess is, the relationship change will be easier than the personal journey you are going through. You already made it through the hard part. 💕 *Wipes away a tear*
Meds are tricky sometimes you have to be off them for three to six months to get them out of your system. Then its seeing if you can sustain the stability for the next three to six months. Your psychiatrist is probably being overly cautious and waiting to see a three, six, and year checkup off meds. So don't feel too disappointed. On a happy note, Love that you are feeling better and the family is doing great! Thank you for sharing your anniversary.🤗
Hi Lauren. About a month ago, I saw your videos about medical keto and how the diet has been helping you (as well as many other people with mental illness). At the time, my depression and anxiety were absolutely awful - my current medication wasn't doing its job well anymore, and I was sinking. Seeing your videos inspired me to try keto, and, although I can't say how effective it has been with my mental health because I also changed my medication plan since then, keto and dieting have become such an important and positive part of my current life. It has brought me so much joy, challenges that I'm proud of myself for facing, opportunities to learn about how I can take better care of my body, opportunities to expand my creativity and scope in the kitchen, good habits & new routines that keep me afloat when I'm starting to feel low again, etc etc. I'd like to believe that keto, the experiences I've had through this new diet and the new medication have all significantly contributed to this incredibly positive-change I've recently had. Less depressed, less anxious, more confident, happier.. I am grateful to you for sharing your story and giving me this push into keto. Thank you so much. (I'm cheering for you!!)
Lauren omg! As someone who also lives with schizoaffective disorder I’m BAFFLED that you’re able to get off meds. This is something I have never thought possible for myself or anyone like me. Thank you for sharing this journey. I’m so inspired. I hope you get to live a long life with your illness in remission and also, like, wow, what an incredible thing. I have so much space for you as you navigate this new way of being. Best wishes ❤🎉
It's possible! I was diagnosed with Schizoaffective bipolar type, 6 years ago, and have not been on medication for the past 3 years, no symptoms either. Thank God!
@tiny-lightningr-tv4ly I have not experienced any symptoms for the past 3 years, so there is no management currently. I was diagnosed after two psychiatric hospitalizations. For the first 3 years of my disease, I managed by attending individual therapy, taking medication under the care of a psychiatrist, and attending healing prayers at church. I did a lot of work addressing psychological trauma, forgiving, and praying to Jesus to heal me. With time and treatment, my symptoms decreased to the point where I no longer had symptoms, so they reduced and eventually took me off the antipsychotic medication. There were many times when I thought I would never get better, but I believe I was healed by God, based on my spiritual experiences! So I wanted to share my experience, in case it helps anyone. Do not throw in the towel warriors!
Happy Anniversary guys!! The way Rob looks at you is so sweet... I love him just for that but also sticking up for you and being by your side during the hard times... His level of commitment is unlike any other and for you to let him know and trust that he wants what is best for YOU! I love you two!! You two are made for each other and I'm so glad you've taken us along on the ups & downs, the Keto journey and continue to advocate for mental health.
I have bipolar, also on keto, also planning to taper my antipsychotics. My previous attempt was too fast and ended up badly. If you'll succeed, it will be an inspiring example for me. Go Lauren!
Do not taper off medications without consulting your psychiatrist. Like the above comment stated everyone is different and you should not take medical advice from someone on UA-cam. She’s sharing her personal experience, not giving medical advice
My son (20) had his first hallucination about a month ago, it was difficult and lasted a while. He is not on medication now. We started the keto diet a few days ago. ( thanks to you) hopefully he will do well. ❤ I’m happy for you and everyone who has cured their brains.
Hi, Yolanda! It's a difficult time for you and your son. I'm a parent myself and can feel how overwelming and scary it can be for you. Once it's sunk in and settled down I hope you can realize it's not the end of the world, just an obstacle to deal with. Many years ago the diagnosis was determined to be to a life in pain and struggle, Today it'll be different but not a distaster like it used to be. If you by disaster mean a lifetime in an institution. Be happy that he's 20 now and not 30 years back. A lot has changed for the better. Hopefully keto will suffice, but if he needs additional help, so be it. He can still have a full life
If it was Brief Psychotic Episode (less than a month of hallucinations), then reducing stress, plenty of sleep, and alleviating any loneliness, is usually enough to prevent it recurring.
@@ciobalina7445 I assume you're aware that: 1. 99% of psychotic episodes eventually, or quickly, resolve without medication 2. Hallucinations are very common, and can be reliably produced by no more than sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation or prolonged stress 3. All antipsychotics carry some risk of lethal and maiming side effects, taking them reduces life expectancy and results in excess deaths. They SHOULD be taken when necessary, but NOT otherwise. 4. People with schizophrenia are only half as likely to carry out violent crime, compared to the general population. But twice as likely to be a victim of crime, compared to the general population. 5. The above come from reliable sources online. The 99% figure I think was a Dutch or Scandinavian study, the crime figures, an Australian one. The excess deaths caused have been noted and led to guidelines aiming to reduce the usage of these medications in Scotland amongst other places. Hallucinations information comes from military studies, research on sensory deprivation and population surveys which found the majority of standalone psychotic episodes are never reported to healthcare professionals. Information on medication side effects comes from patient leaflets included in the packets and from public health data. After my first psychotic episode, we didn't inform medics, I recovered in 3 days, had no medication, and had no more hallucinations for 20 years. It was prolonged stress, exhaustion and loneliness. Circumstances. My next episode lasted longer, because my circumstances were worse, and led to medication for 2 years, AGAINST the guidelines saying I should be taken off it within 6 months. I had to fight to be allowed off it. I experienced 100% depersonalisation during those full 2 years, which lifted in a week when I came off it. Plus another 28 side effects. Again, it was prolonged stress, exhaustion and loneliness. Circumstances. I've not had any hallucinations in the decade since. This time, I sorted my circumstances permanently. Antiquated stigmatisation, often by people with irrational fears and urge to control others, who I've found play around with illegal, psychotropic drugs themselves as often as not, is unhelpful.
Awesome!!!! We celebrate both of you. My nephew is a psychiatrist and I have been keeping him informed. If your own psychiatrist does not seem to be bothered, other psychiatrists will be. No worries!! Keep up the good feeling. Sending love.
Holy crap u have no idea how genuine your smile looks I’ve been with you for a year at least. Different struggles but I use your struggles and I reevaluate my own struggles it helps me realize I have it easier then some and harder than others but you e given me strength when I needed it most.
Those that have been through severe psych med withdrawal suggest decreasing no more than 10% of your dose per month. The "withdrawal period" can last up to a year. I really hope that keto will carry you through!
What a journey Lauren!!! Thank you so much for sharing it, for being brave, humble, honest and vulnerable with us. Wishing you ongoing happieness and health ❤.
I appreciate the honesty that you show in this video in showing that living with someone with a chronic condition can both be a happy and fulfilling experience AND really take a lot of energy and effort and even take a toll on someone. In some ways, it is interesting to think if you are actually a different person now than the person he married and what that means for the relationship.
Hi Lauren, I am 71 years old and just saw your channel, my biological father and my younger sister are both schizophrenic.Reading what you have talked about has helped me understand some stuff about myself so thank you. Fighting for your health is so important, diet, exercise, and yes even medication are all equally so important. I wish all the best in life.
I think going through your illness together has made you both closer and able to deal with life’s problems. You are not your illness. You had an illness and now you are better. I’m so proud of both of you and your beautiful family! And good examples for all of us, I’ll or not. Y’all are amazing! Never give up on each other! We are celebrating our 51st anniversary and it’s worth every effort!
I totally understand your bafflement of your psychiatrists lack of interest. But for most people with your disorder , most just go off meds and have a total mental health catastrophe. You have gone above and beyond to make so many changes to help you wean of your meds which is why you are being successful with it! Keep doing you for your own health! You have been so cautious with this and you are truly an exception to the rule with decreasing your meds! I pray that you continue on and are successful with no speed bumps in the road. Most people would not do well with what you are doing!
Your story is so heartening. It’s one of my inspiration go-to’s when I’m feeling as though things aren’t going as planned. I’m very happy for both you and Rob.
I feel Laurens husband is holding his breath a bit. Not sure if this keto, med free change is going to last. I think that would be understandable, as living with mental health can be challenging. Especially our many changes through time. Possibly from past experiences. I can see really clarity in Lauren, big changes. It is very encouraging and brave for you to share your experience with the rest of us.
I'm planning to be a psychotherapist, and the keto diet always peaked my curiosity, I started learning about it through health studies for it's effectiveness with weight loss, heart disease, diabetes, but over time I increasingly saw so many individuals talking about how beneficial it is to treat many, seemingly unbeatable disorders, including cancer even at stage 4 (like Mr Guy' incredible story) , bipolar, and now schizophrenia, epilepsy.. Experts of both the medical field and the mental health field are not doing enough to learn about Keto's potential. There's so much potential and very little research which simply doesn't make sense. Most of what I've learned about it is through individuals' experiences like yours. Thank you for covering this very niche topic extensively. I think the main issue is that most big pharmaceutical companies are not incentivized to research or promote the keto diet because most would rather keep selling their addicting medications instead of seeing people doing well simply using a diet they can't profit off as much. Why would they fund such research..
Also big money in selling (essentially addictive) carbohydrates and sugars. Allows companies to sell more food than folk need, and then sell 'weight loss' solutions as well!
You are both amazing. Continue your journey the way you feel is right. It is a privilege watching your videos. Bless you and your family. Love and regards from Saudi Arabia.
Lauren and Rob, I truly send you both hope and wishes for your continued success in your journey. You both look amazing! Lauren, I’ve been watching your vids for a couple of years now and I can not believe the difference in you now, it’s really quite remarkable. The dedication you both have towards your health and wellbeing is a true testament to how strong you both are and I find that both admiral and inspiring. The part where you talk about learning how adult really resonated with me. I would always joke that I was an adult but not a real adult. I, too, am finally learning how to adult, and at first it was a little scary, now I find it so much fun! Good luck on your continued journey and success! ❤
You are an inspiration and role model for so so so many! It’s worth much more weight than simply antectdotal evidence and and a testament to the power of self healing. I’m currently doing a rotation on a peds psych unit as an NP student and I wish your story was able to be appreciated by big pharma and all the psychiatrists whose answers is always more meds, never less.
I am so happy for you Lauren, God bless!😀💙 Thanks so much for wishing us all happiness and health, and please know that we wish you and Rob and all our loved ones and everyone in this community the same!😀😀😀😊
im not skipping to that part but i am only hoping you and rob are happy and stay together forever, you both are so endearing together and i adore you both
I’m so happy for you that you found a partner who loves you through your ups and downs with your mental health. You deserve it! And in return he gets the best of you when you’re able to give it! Don’t ever give up on each other! Your love for each other is so evident!
I am so very happy for her husband and her little one. It is so tough being on the other side of this disease. So glad for this beautiful family. Wishing you well.
I am so proud of you and what you have done to improve your health. I am glad you are feeling good and not having bad symptoms. Your videos should help a lot of people that it can be done and hope they do it also. You are such a cute couple. Happy Anniversary.❤️
This brave honest discussion the for the world to see...what a gift to us!!! I have loved bipolar people...the caretaking role is...fraught. What an adventure!!!! I'm very grateful for your youtube channel. Write your own screenplay, you two.
You are spreading the word yourself. People will believe you more than your doctor because you found a cure for your symptoms. Halleluyah. Very encouraging.
Holy Christmas, Lauren, you medalled! 🎉🎉🎉🎉 That’s very cool! And a testament to how well you can set a goal in your mind, follow the steps to achieving said goal, and achieving that goal (even while still in med tapering/withdrawal!) You could teach me a few things about functioning through withdrawal (chronic pain, chronic physical illness, chronic mental illness - I’ve been in withdrawal many times - and it sucks). Funnily enough, when we moved in, I ended up on a keto diet (we couldn’t get groceries from 2 places yet, so I ended up making do with what I had - which was mostly protein/fat and I couldn’t eat any carbs because Celiac/nut/peanut allergies, and they didn’t sell GF bread or crackers that didn’t have nuts in them). And you know what? It was the best I’ve ever felt mentally and physically. Thank you for documenting this - my care team (it just keeps getting bigger, as parts of me malfunction - we learned I have Ehlers-Danlos in 2018 (I was born with it - it was just "Mystery Illness and Mystery Pain" for 33 years first. I was sure it would need to be named after me)) includes a dietitian - so I’d need to get some input from her - but I think they’re ecstatic when I eat protein 😂 🎉 Sasha
Thank you for sharing your ups and downs. So happy to see you doing well and I’m in tears (happy ones) for you. You being able to explore this new capacity. New ways for you and Rob to relate. All the wonderful things that are happening for you! After so much hard work and crappy times, it’s good to see a story that is good! ❤🎉
I’m so happy for you and all the success you’ve had!!! Yay!!! That’s amazing and mind blowing. These videos will be a real light in a dark place for many.
I resonate with the shift in dynamics of a relationship so so much. My partner and I have also been working through that shift and coming to find our own. Learning how each other feels loved has helped us stay close while we learn these new things. And of course - trust and open communication. The book “Power of Attachment” by Diane Poole Heller and therapy has been incredibly helpful.
Thank you so much for your videos, I cant begin to tell you how much it helps me. Your husband is amazing his honesty makes me feel so much better especially from the perspective of a caregiver.❤❤❤
What an inspiration the two of you are. Having overcome the very significant challenge of schizoaffective disorder, relationship issues should be relatively easy IMO. A new and exciting challenge!
Yeah you would think there would be a huge curiosity and almost a congratulations aspect to it to. I am so happy you have found a group of people within social media and metabolic mind who are cheering you on you’ve made me curious and all 300k followers 🎉
I live in the US and a provider I worked with once who works out of a hospital told me that she could not advise me on anything that doesn’t have historical clinical proof of efficacy due to her hospital’s rules- I wonder if your provider is in the same position Lauren? We need more studies to show that keto works to get the word out and these modalities to be offered widely
Your journey with keto has been such an inspiration to so many! I am a bit frustrated that your provider doesn't seem to give much outwardly thought to this transformation through changing your diet, but I can't say I'm totally surprised.
Good on you Lauren and Rob...keep going..sometimes you've got to deeply think of ways to improve your health yourself and what we feed ourselves with diet is very important...never mentioned by medical team...or rarely.. Very happy for you Lauren and your beautiful family...Good work Lauren and Rob 🎉
I'm so happy for you. When you experience either the very first moment of clarity (or no symptoms) from a mental illness... it is truly core shaking with gratitude and an empowering ability to remind us we still want to be here... and shows us how deep you can go and STILL have this beautiful urge to survive through it. I'm so happy for you, and others still searching / fighting to find the way through in moments of despair. Continue to try things
I’m a pretty direct person. I would ask my psych. “Why does it seem like you have no interest in how well this is working?” ALSO…you two made me cry on your date🥰
I don't think she should ask that. It's an aggressive question, and she wouldn't get any true answer, if he's a real professional (in the positive way). Moreover, in my opinion, her decision to criticize him in public shows she is not quite in her right mind. One shouldn't do a thing like that to a doctor that treats you for year and years.
@@spr481 Perhaps it isn't judgment we are hearing from her, but hurt? Not like consciously or anything, but when you are told for years and years that you HAVE to be on medication and there are no other options for you, even if they are dramatically effecting your quality of life, then to find out there was this other option all along may trigger some hurt and resentment, even if you rationally know that it wouldn't have been an option your doctor could offer.
I know I am changing in this world. My relationships are supportive. I am now wanting my personal space more and the noise to go away with my relationships. I am grateful that they're supportive of me.
I think your spouses love and understanding, support and caretaking when it’s needed probably has a huge impact in your recovery and being able to not need meds anymore.
I wouldn't think he's not "so not curious" as he is skeptical. I'm only guessing that he won't get more "curious" until there is adequate research and evidence on a broader scale. Clearly this has been GREAT for you and that's wonderful. But the question is "will it be great generally". While of course I would say yes, even if just for general physical health; which always helps attitude, outlook etc. The level of symptom reduction may vary considerably depending on many other factors; comorbidities for example. All the best
Wrong. He’s not skeptical. He’s ticked off and he’s going to be losing a lifelong customer the medical field as we know it today, is only concerned with creating customers for life. When their customers find natural or homeopathic ways to help themselves, that makes the doctors in the pharmaceutical companies is quite irritated. I’ve done many natural things and have told my doctors about it. And I get nothing but rolls and berate like I’m an idiot. , It’s my body and I know best. These doctors don’t have a clue. They’re only doing and saying what the pharmaceutical companies pay them to do so really there’s nothing weird about her doctor not caring. It’s pretty darn typical these days.
@@LA-nm4mn that may be true about some and I have known at least one who was a "serial prescriber". But not all and I don't (obviously) know this shrink and NEITHER do you.
@@ldanger22 absolutely. But not on KETO specifically and the variations. For example, the carnivore diet (or you may call it the most extreme form of KETO) is the only thing that worked for some people but absolutely is not indicated for others. Consequently determining different variations on metabolism will be important in the long run. But quite promising.
Hey Lauren, I am going through the same thing right now on medical keto and trying to maintain my running. If you focus on staying in zone 2 and 3 only for your runs, you can rebuild your cardio structure to match your Central Nervous system which has just gone through a major restructuring with keto. It’s not fun watching your overall pace go down but eventually you will improve that by using the zone 2, 3 as a running strategy for a while. Thanks for the recommendation on the exogenous ketones. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@spr481 Or he may think it's a fad. My psychiatrist has allowed me to taper my meds by 25% on medical keto so far, but he's clearly skeptical. He listens to my talking of the evidence for keto as though I'm telling him a fairytale. I think Rob is right about it probably needing to be patient-led, cause most clinicians are still led by big pharma at this point.
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@@EmmaSuprema888 I presume that doctors can't take responsibility for a non-researched treatment method. They can't express their opinion, because later they might be sued for malpractice. So they go along with the patient's wished, as much as they can, but no more than that.
@@EmmaSuprema888 Back in the 90s, I had a friend who is a psychiatrist and when I told him some side effects I had from my antidepressant, and that I could ameliorate them using high amounts of vitamins, he said he could not report these because the AMA would force him out.
Sometimes a change will do you good. That's what popped into my mind when I saw you were flabbergasted by the response of your achievements. Btw, that's also one of Sheryl Crow's songs. Thank you for sharing.
You and rob are such a cute couple. I am currently on medication for schizophrenia and if the keto can cure my mental illness i will definitely try it. It's also so inspiring to see someone with a mental illness have a successful marriage. I thought it was impossible but seeing other people with their mental illness find someone, motivates me to find someone with my mental illness now that i have seen others do it too.
Also really liked the point about self led care. Each person with the illness is different and**** person centred care**** is the way to go in mental health care.
Way to go! I've been watching for about a year and any hope about what works is great for everyone. I wish you well on your current endeavors and your continued journey into wellbeing.
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Is it out of question to look into - The Semmelweis Reflex,,, for what might answer your Doctors reluctance to consider your significant improvements of your CognitiveI.Q.
The brain doesn’t like you not taking meds, so it does a little hissy every now and then!💕
I received the same lack of curiosity from my psychiatrist. After he saw me as a patient in severe suffering for years, when I became well, he began to question whether I was ever sick. And this was a decent doctor who was very conservative in his approach to prescribing medication. 😢 I wish he was excited to help his other patients experience the profound transformation I had!
You raise a good point in your second sentence: when a non-mainstream treatment ends up working well, the response is to question the validity of the diagnosis (i.e., whether the patient was faking illness) as opposed to regarding evidence of positive outcomes as a contribution to the field. It's disappointing to see psychiatry operating on the principle that "the person is the problem" in order to avoid culpability for its own missteps and poor judgment calls.
@@kaitlinwalley2985 This is a typical response among psychotherapists as well. If something works, but doesn’t fit the training a professional received, it tends to create cognitive dissonance and takes away power. The professional doesn’t have control anymore, so attacks the credibility of the client.
@@FM24A sick
@@Ippogrifus Yeah, that sums it up.
This approach (ignoring/dismissing/having a bias against anything but medication-centred treatment) really should be considered malpractice in my opinion - the best interests of the patient aren't actually being considered.
I can totally relate to the adulting process. I live with my parents, and they see me getting better on medical keto. They are gradually letting me take on more of the responsibility I would ideally be handling on my own. Mom doesn’t fold my laundry as much, help me with dishes as much, they ask me to watch my nephews on my own when my sister drops them off for a few hours. At first I was like “what?” But I honestly wouldn’t have it any other way. Happy Anniversary Rob and Lauren!
I'm so proud of you! Keep pushing and believe in remission! Metabolic health is the baseline of everything. Don't fall of the wagon.. ever! There's no taste worth it to make yourself sick again. Also ancestral foods rich in fats and proteins are what the human kind evolved on. Our body and mind prefers it. We're just conditioned through colorful advertisement that sugary grain based junk food is for pleasure. It's not! We started to eat grain to not starve.. some time ago no one would have chosen cereal over animal fats..
@@caitlinhoey841 awesome!! Keep up the good work
Also came here to say I’m so proud of you!!!!
@@samb6385 thank you!
@@PalinaZ i am not trying to convince anyone to eat carbs, however human kind also evolved on carbs, rice, pasta, bread, fruits are heavily present in human history.
I’m a 61-year-old man whose sister has been battling this illness for 40 years -I’m in tears watching your success story wishing that my Sister could do the same. She’s in an….institution….. I’m glad at least someone escaped the criminal matrix of our modern medical system…..😢❤❤❤❤
I feel your pain. My 65 yr old husband has suffered that long, as well. Unfortunately, there is no way that he would have the discipline/motivation to adhere to this regimented diet. I watch him suffer daily from scary delusions and voices.
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Hey… I have been watching your videos for years.. and I also was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder. I used to be addicted to drugs and the drugs triggered my schizophrenia. I made a video about it thanks to you for motivating me to share my experience. Thank you for everything you do and I believe mental health awareness is something we should all talk about. Thanks again.
Thank you so much for normalizing schizophrenia and mental health in general . You guys have shown me how to help my 23 yr old son and I navigate this new phase in life and what options are out there. So far we have only been thrown. A ton of different meds and so he does believe he has a problem Hold space for you and grateful for your help in our journey and wish you the best yours.
I'm also shocked at your psychiatrist's lack of interest in this, I mean this is huge, you have put your schizoaffective disorder into remission! Like wow 🤯 I'm delighted for you and grateful that you are sharing your journey, it's inspiring ❤ As someone who has battled depression all my life I know I am seriously considering trying this because of your experience and how effective it has been.
the drs don’t benefit from big pharma that’s why.
YOU GIVE YOURSELF THE RIGHT TO BE POWERFULLY PROUD
YOU have kicked this to the kerb, give the diet thumbs up if you like but speaking from experience we destroy ourselves and we restore ourselves.
You’ve done this girl, you made the decision to get well.
Thank goodness more information is available now, wish my mum along with everyone else had access to internet years ago.
We’re learning all the time and will continue to do so.
I couldn’t be happier for you 🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️
Re: the Psychiatrist lack of reaction - hate to be jaded, but the remission was not due to something he was involved with, right? But I assure you, I am almost brought to tears with every video these past few months. I'm a mental health Educator in Ontario (Family Support) and I have been watching you since day one! Your courage and commitment and willingness to share this journey and this new treatment option is outstanding for the community and the Science and the movement. These vids will be referred back to YEARS from now as the world catches up and learns from your work.
You are changing the world Lauren! And some professionals ARE watching every step with admiration and gratitude 🙏 xoxo deNISE
I am a social worker in New York. I’ve worked with clients swallowed up by the current system. Watched Lauren for years now.
Your psychiatrist may not be curious. I know i am watching your bravery and care through this process.
Completely agree. Lauren is going down in history and will be talked about, watched, and loved for many, many decades.
@@EvolFighter love this. Yes - our Psychs may not be curious - but the world is watching..
Yes, I second that. Lauren is very inspirational and very generous to share her difficult, successful journey. My daughter, named Lauren too, is still suffering with the same illness and experiencing non response, indifference and rejection from the medical community. Such apathy is devastating. Lauren you are a hero! Keep going!
Good point Rob, it is evident in the clinical healthcare industry that we have to depend on our personal advocacy. That requires us to basically educate ourselves to communicate up to the point of being close to a clinician as well. That is what has impressed me so much with this journey, Lauren and Rob had to get into the trenches to go toe to toe with the providers. You are both inspiring humans! ✌🏽
Yes, when Rob said, “this should really be patient-led,” I was jumping for joy that someone without a mental illness could see this important truth.
It’s so silencing to know this logic in your bones without having any outlet (surveys, client liaison, exit interview) for input to providers on what works and what doesn’t.
As a result, people continued to be offered the same old “best practices” (as defined by ??) help that isn’t actually helpful, and leads to despair and disempowerment.
@@80islandia I was a nurse in pediatrics from about '66-'76. I remember once a conversation with a Dr. about "why don't they try lung transplant with kids who have Cystic Fibrosis"? He gave me a look that said that would never be an option. Many years later they did and it helped many kids live longer. Now, due to new medications and treatments there are many adults 40+ years old with CF. New things take time, but most need trailblazers like Lauren to get the ball rolling!!
It's so incredible to see how you two are able to be so open and honest with each other and talk about the difficult and challenging things, the painful things - it's inspiring frankly to see that you two are able to talk about these things - even being honest in terms of feelings of resentment, and not say them in an angry way but completely calm communication. So rare!
I liked that too! Emotions like resentment are very difficult to pinpoint let alone talk about, so it was great to see a healthy example of an honest discussion between two people who genuinely care about each other and want to work through things.
So happy for you! One thing that have struck me since I've been following you is how structured you are. You sleep well, you eat healthy, excersise. You're so much in control. You put in a lot of work. I don't know many people that are like you. Even when I used to work with people diagnosed with schizophrenia they were not nearly as held together as you are. It's not easy what you're doing and I wish all people were as focused and goal oriented as you are. Schizophrenia or not. I could never do what you're accomplishing.
She's got a great support net as well.
And you might surprise yourself with tiny steps in that direction
She is totally amazing human being!! I
To am blown away how much she does and what a honest beautiful soul and blessing to this world… Spot on and with what you said .. Ty
thats because of the anti psycotic medication. on some days I am so unmotivated all i can do is lay on the couch. I do voluntary work but sustaining work is not possible.
Amazing to think back to the time i watched your video when you were an inpatient on the psych ward... you really were suffering and now in this video you are thriving, blooming, you look so healthy... it is your life❤ love to you all❤
My guess is, the relationship change will be easier than the personal journey you are going through. You already made it through the hard part. 💕 *Wipes away a tear*
“I’m talking about being in a foul mood today…. Tread lightly” got me, that’s so real 😂❤ thank you so much for sharing this journey with us!
Meds are tricky sometimes you have to be off them for three to six months to get them out of your system. Then its seeing if you can sustain the stability for the next three to six months.
Your psychiatrist is probably being overly cautious and waiting to see a three, six, and year checkup off meds. So don't feel too disappointed.
On a happy note, Love that you are feeling better and the family is doing great! Thank you for sharing your anniversary.🤗
Bottom Line: Patients are their own best advocates.
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Hi Lauren. About a month ago, I saw your videos about medical keto and how the diet has been helping you (as well as many other people with mental illness). At the time, my depression and anxiety were absolutely awful - my current medication wasn't doing its job well anymore, and I was sinking. Seeing your videos inspired me to try keto, and, although I can't say how effective it has been with my mental health because I also changed my medication plan since then, keto and dieting have become such an important and positive part of my current life. It has brought me so much joy, challenges that I'm proud of myself for facing, opportunities to learn about how I can take better care of my body, opportunities to expand my creativity and scope in the kitchen, good habits & new routines that keep me afloat when I'm starting to feel low again, etc etc. I'd like to believe that keto, the experiences I've had through this new diet and the new medication have all significantly contributed to this incredibly positive-change I've recently had. Less depressed, less anxious, more confident, happier..
I am grateful to you for sharing your story and giving me this push into keto. Thank you so much. (I'm cheering for you!!)
Lauren omg! As someone who also lives with schizoaffective disorder I’m BAFFLED that you’re able to get off meds. This is something I have never thought possible for myself or anyone like me. Thank you for sharing this journey. I’m so inspired. I hope you get to live a long life with your illness in remission and also, like, wow, what an incredible thing. I have so much space for you as you navigate this new way of being. Best wishes ❤🎉
It's possible! I was diagnosed with Schizoaffective bipolar type, 6 years ago, and have not been on medication for the past 3 years, no symptoms either. Thank God!
@@AA-lq5bj what diet do you do??
@jeanpaultongeren125 I don't follow a diet, eat average American food, which include carbs, sugars, and protein
@@AA-lq5bj how do you manage your illness?
@tiny-lightningr-tv4ly I have not experienced any symptoms for the past 3 years, so there is no management currently. I was diagnosed after two psychiatric hospitalizations. For the first 3 years of my disease, I managed by attending individual therapy, taking medication under the care of a psychiatrist, and attending healing prayers at church. I did a lot of work addressing psychological trauma, forgiving, and praying to Jesus to heal me. With time and treatment, my symptoms decreased to the point where I no longer had symptoms, so they reduced and eventually took me off the antipsychotic medication. There were many times when I thought I would never get better, but I believe I was healed by God, based on my spiritual experiences! So I wanted to share my experience, in case it helps anyone. Do not throw in the towel warriors!
happy crying for you!!! congrats for consistently showing up and caring for yourself
Happy Anniversary guys!! The way Rob looks at you is so sweet... I love him just for that but also sticking up for you and being by your side during the hard times... His level of commitment is unlike any other and for you to let him know and trust that he wants what is best for YOU! I love you two!! You two are made for each other and I'm so glad you've taken us along on the ups & downs, the Keto journey and continue to advocate for mental health.
I have bipolar, also on keto, also planning to taper my antipsychotics. My previous attempt was too fast and ended up badly. If you'll succeed, it will be an inspiring example for me. Go Lauren!
Be very careful not everyone illnesses are the same.
Do not taper off medications without consulting your psychiatrist. Like the above comment stated everyone is different and you should not take medical advice from someone on UA-cam. She’s sharing her personal experience, not giving medical advice
@@cady__ I agree with you. I know that things require time, carefulness, and consultations with professionals. It's more about emotional inspiration.
there are people with bipolar that got better with keto. look up Matt Baszucki and Dr. Iain Campbell - both use it
My son (20) had his first hallucination about a month ago, it was difficult and lasted a while.
He is not on medication now. We started the keto diet a few days ago. ( thanks to you) hopefully he will do well.
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I’m happy for you and everyone who has cured their brains.
Hi, Yolanda! It's a difficult time for you and your son. I'm a parent myself and can feel how overwelming and scary it can be for you. Once it's sunk in and settled down I hope you can realize it's not the end of the world, just an obstacle to deal with. Many years ago the diagnosis was determined to be to a life in pain and struggle, Today it'll be different but not a distaster like it used to be. If you by disaster mean a lifetime in an institution. Be happy that he's 20 now and not 30 years back. A lot has changed for the better. Hopefully keto will suffice, but if he needs additional help, so be it. He can still have a full life
If it was Brief Psychotic Episode (less than a month of hallucinations), then reducing stress, plenty of sleep, and alleviating any loneliness, is usually enough to prevent it recurring.
I have bipolar myself and it terrifies me seeing her go off her medication. I hope she goes well, but for me I’m sticking on my meds.
@@ciobalina7445 I assume you're aware that:
1. 99% of psychotic episodes eventually, or quickly, resolve without medication
2. Hallucinations are very common, and can be reliably produced by no more than sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation or prolonged stress
3. All antipsychotics carry some risk of lethal and maiming side effects, taking them reduces life expectancy and results in excess deaths. They SHOULD be taken when necessary, but NOT otherwise.
4. People with schizophrenia are only half as likely to carry out violent crime, compared to the general population. But twice as likely to be a victim of crime, compared to the general population.
5. The above come from reliable sources online. The 99% figure I think was a Dutch or Scandinavian study, the crime figures, an Australian one. The excess deaths caused have been noted and led to guidelines aiming to reduce the usage of these medications in Scotland amongst other places. Hallucinations information comes from military studies, research on sensory deprivation and population surveys which found the majority of standalone psychotic episodes are never reported to healthcare professionals. Information on medication side effects comes from patient leaflets included in the packets and from public health data.
After my first psychotic episode, we didn't inform medics, I recovered in 3 days, had no medication, and had no more hallucinations for 20 years. It was prolonged stress, exhaustion and loneliness. Circumstances.
My next episode lasted longer, because my circumstances were worse, and led to medication for 2 years, AGAINST the guidelines saying I should be taken off it within 6 months. I had to fight to be allowed off it. I experienced 100% depersonalisation during those full 2 years, which lifted in a week when I came off it. Plus another 28 side effects. Again, it was prolonged stress, exhaustion and loneliness. Circumstances.
I've not had any hallucinations in the decade since. This time, I sorted my circumstances permanently.
Antiquated stigmatisation, often by people with irrational fears and urge to control others, who I've found play around with illegal, psychotropic drugs themselves as often as not, is unhelpful.
PS having hallucinations once is not a 'disease' any more than fainting once is a disease.
I have been following you, it gives me so much joy to see you progressing.
Awesome!!!! We celebrate both of you. My nephew is a psychiatrist and I have been keeping him informed. If your own psychiatrist does not seem to be bothered, other psychiatrists will be. No worries!! Keep up the good feeling. Sending love.
You can pay for one that will agree.
I'm so happy to hear the word "remission" three times in this video. You've got this, Lauren!
I am soooo happy for you. I keep telling my son about you. I am hoping someday he'll listen.
Great to see that you're almost done with psy meds. I'm down on mine too and feeling good.
Congratulations ☺
@@Julia_Berrrlin thanks!
Holy crap u have no idea how genuine your smile looks I’ve been with you for a year at least. Different struggles but I use your struggles and I reevaluate my own struggles it helps me realize I have it easier then some and harder than others but you e given me strength when I needed it most.
Those that have been through severe psych med withdrawal suggest decreasing no more than 10% of your dose per month. The "withdrawal period" can last up to a year. I really hope that keto will carry you through!
I can't imagine being ok without the meds. I so rely on them to get me through the day, I can't imagine life without them.
It’s just a matter of time… enjoy until next episode
but dream of a place where you dont need them with a safe taper. I'm sure it's gonna be super emotional for lauren
Of course you do now, but just maybe not forever. God bless you in your journey.
Same 😮
What a journey Lauren!!! Thank you so much for sharing it, for being brave, humble, honest and vulnerable with us. Wishing you ongoing happieness and health ❤.
I appreciate the honesty that you show in this video in showing that living with someone with a chronic condition can both be a happy and fulfilling experience AND really take a lot of energy and effort and even take a toll on someone. In some ways, it is interesting to think if you are actually a different person now than the person he married and what that means for the relationship.
Hi Lauren,
I am 71 years old and just saw your channel, my biological father and my younger sister are both schizophrenic.Reading what you have talked about has helped me understand some stuff about myself so thank you. Fighting for your health is so important, diet, exercise, and yes even medication are all equally so important.
I wish all the best in life.
It's nice to hear you laughing.💛
It's very good to hear such great news from you!!!
I think going through your illness together has made you both closer and able to deal with life’s problems. You are not your illness. You had an illness and now you are better. I’m so proud of both of you and your beautiful family! And good examples for all of us, I’ll or not. Y’all are amazing! Never give up on each other! We are celebrating our 51st anniversary and it’s worth every effort!
Congratulations!!
I totally understand your bafflement of your psychiatrists lack of interest. But for most people with your disorder , most just go off meds and have a total mental health catastrophe. You have gone above and beyond to make so many changes to help you wean of your meds which is why you are being successful with it! Keep doing you for your own health! You have been so cautious with this and you are truly an exception to the rule with decreasing your meds! I pray that you continue on and are successful with no speed bumps in the road. Most people would not do well with what you are doing!
Your little guy is just the cutest! Thanks for sharing your story
Im glad to hear it is a positive change and not a negative one that maybe many feared. You guys are an inspiration to many couples out there!
Your story is so heartening. It’s one of my inspiration go-to’s when I’m feeling as though things aren’t going as planned. I’m very happy for both you and Rob.
Happy Anniversary ❤
I feel Laurens husband is holding his breath a bit. Not sure if this keto, med free change is going to last. I think that would be understandable, as living with mental health can be challenging. Especially our many changes through time. Possibly from past experiences. I can see really clarity in Lauren, big changes. It is very encouraging and brave for you to share your experience with the rest of us.
I'm planning to be a psychotherapist, and the keto diet always peaked my curiosity, I started learning about it through health studies for it's effectiveness with weight loss, heart disease, diabetes, but over time I increasingly saw so many individuals talking about how beneficial it is to treat many, seemingly unbeatable disorders, including cancer even at stage 4 (like Mr Guy' incredible story) , bipolar, and now schizophrenia, epilepsy.. Experts of both the medical field and the mental health field are not doing enough to learn about Keto's potential. There's so much potential and very little research which simply doesn't make sense. Most of what I've learned about it is through individuals' experiences like yours. Thank you for covering this very niche topic extensively.
I think the main issue is that most big pharmaceutical companies are not incentivized to research or promote the keto diet because most would rather keep selling their addicting medications instead of seeing people doing well simply using a diet they can't profit off as much. Why would they fund such research..
Also big money in selling (essentially addictive) carbohydrates and sugars. Allows companies to sell more food than folk need, and then sell 'weight loss' solutions as well!
If you do end up as a psychotherapist - Imagine how many people you could help get better. Wishing you the best of luck
You are both amazing. Continue your journey the way you feel is right. It is a privilege watching your videos. Bless you and your family. Love and regards from Saudi Arabia.
Lauren and Rob, I truly send you both hope and wishes for your continued success in your journey. You both look amazing! Lauren, I’ve been watching your vids for a couple of years now and I can not believe the difference in you now, it’s really quite remarkable. The dedication you both have towards your health and wellbeing is a true testament to how strong you both are and I find that both admiral and inspiring. The part where you talk about learning how adult really resonated with me. I would always joke that I was an adult but not a real adult. I, too, am finally learning how to adult, and at first it was a little scary, now I find it so much fun! Good luck on your continued journey and success! ❤
You are an inspiration and role model for so so so many! It’s worth much more weight than simply antectdotal evidence and and a testament to the power of self healing. I’m currently doing a rotation on a peds psych unit as an NP student and I wish your story was able to be appreciated by big pharma and all the psychiatrists whose answers is always more meds, never less.
I am so happy for you Lauren, God bless!😀💙 Thanks so much for wishing us all happiness and health, and please know that we wish you and Rob and all our loved ones and everyone in this community the same!😀😀😀😊
im not skipping to that part but i am only hoping you and rob are happy and stay together forever, you both are so endearing together and i adore you both
So cool that you are together! It's like trauma therapy like after childhood or what ever trauma you learn who you really are.
I’m so happy for you that you found a partner who loves you through your ups and downs with your mental health. You deserve it! And in return he gets the best of you when you’re able to give it! Don’t ever give up on each other! Your love for each other is so evident!
I am so very happy for her husband and her little one. It is so tough being on the other side of this disease. So glad for this beautiful family. Wishing you well.
I am so proud of you and what you have done to improve your health. I am glad you are feeling good and not having bad symptoms. Your videos should help a lot of people that it can be done and hope they do it also. You are such a cute couple. Happy Anniversary.❤️
M.19:54 “Thank you for sticking by me through the ups and downs”… ❤
You are a lovely and "real" family, regardless of a disorder/withdrawal.
So beautiful to follow your journey Lauren. Thank you for sharing 🙏
This brave honest discussion the for the world to see...what a gift to us!!!
I have loved bipolar people...the caretaking role is...fraught.
What an adventure!!!!
I'm very grateful for your youtube channel.
Write your own screenplay, you two.
So happy for you and how well you are doing off meds! You bring hope to others.
Lauren, so happy for you! You are more relaxed, playful, and natural. Be well, Sister!❤
This was a lovely episode put together... & Happy Anniversary guys❤
You are spreading the word yourself. People will believe you more than your doctor because you found a cure for your symptoms. Halleluyah. Very encouraging.
Congratulations Lauren, all the best with the future of new opportunities! 🧡
Holy Christmas, Lauren, you medalled! 🎉🎉🎉🎉 That’s very cool! And a testament to how well you can set a goal in your mind, follow the steps to achieving said goal, and achieving that goal (even while still in med tapering/withdrawal!)
You could teach me a few things about functioning through withdrawal (chronic pain, chronic physical illness, chronic mental illness - I’ve been in withdrawal many times - and it sucks).
Funnily enough, when we moved in, I ended up on a keto diet (we couldn’t get groceries from 2 places yet, so I ended up making do with what I had - which was mostly protein/fat and I couldn’t eat any carbs because Celiac/nut/peanut allergies, and they didn’t sell GF bread or crackers that didn’t have nuts in them).
And you know what? It was the best I’ve ever felt mentally and physically.
Thank you for documenting this - my care team (it just keeps getting bigger, as parts of me malfunction - we learned I have Ehlers-Danlos in 2018 (I was born with it - it was just "Mystery Illness and Mystery Pain" for 33 years first. I was sure it would need to be named after me)) includes a dietitian - so I’d need to get some input from her - but I think they’re ecstatic when I eat protein 😂
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Thank you for sharing your ups and downs. So happy to see you doing well and I’m in tears (happy ones) for you. You being able to explore this new capacity. New ways for you and Rob to relate. All the wonderful things that are happening for you! After so much hard work and crappy times, it’s good to see a story that is good! ❤🎉
I’m so happy for you and all the success you’ve had!!! Yay!!! That’s amazing and mind blowing. These videos will be a real light in a dark place for many.
I resonate with the shift in dynamics of a relationship so so much. My partner and I have also been working through that shift and coming to find our own. Learning how each other feels loved has helped us stay close while we learn these new things. And of course - trust and open communication. The book “Power of Attachment” by Diane Poole Heller and therapy has been incredibly helpful.
This video has brought so much joy. So happy for you and this continued journey of truly LIVING WELL. ❤
Thank you so much for your videos, I cant begin to tell you how much it helps me. Your husband is amazing his honesty makes me feel so much better especially from the perspective of a caregiver.❤❤❤
Keep up the completely COURAGEOUS journey...Thnx for including us👊
Happy Anniversary 🎉🎉🎉
I appreciate the honesty from both & from Rob.
What an inspiration the two of you are. Having overcome the very significant challenge of schizoaffective disorder, relationship issues should be relatively easy IMO. A new and exciting challenge!
Wow, your journey is so inspiring. Wish you much luck and success going off the meds.
Your progress has been exciting to follow. You've probably inspired a lot of people.
Yeah you would think there would be a huge curiosity and almost a congratulations aspect to it to. I am so happy you have found a group of people within social media and metabolic mind who are cheering you on you’ve made me curious and all 300k followers 🎉
Congratulations on your recovery keep on telling us how things measure to you😊
I am so happy to see you in remission!
When you can finally feel the good days again is quite a win! Love that you are pushing harder.
I live in the US and a provider I worked with once who works out of a hospital told me that she could not advise me on anything that doesn’t have historical clinical proof of efficacy due to her hospital’s rules- I wonder if your provider is in the same position Lauren? We need more studies to show that keto works to get the word out and these modalities to be offered widely
Your journey with keto has been such an inspiration to so many! I am a bit frustrated that your provider doesn't seem to give much outwardly thought to this transformation through changing your diet, but I can't say I'm totally surprised.
Good on you Lauren and Rob...keep going..sometimes you've got to deeply think of ways to improve your health yourself and what we feed ourselves with diet is very important...never mentioned by medical team...or rarely..
Very happy for you Lauren and your beautiful family...Good work Lauren and Rob 🎉
I'm so happy for you. When you experience either the very first moment of clarity (or no symptoms) from a mental illness... it is truly core shaking with gratitude and an empowering ability to remind us we still want to be here... and shows us how deep you can go and STILL have this beautiful urge to survive through it.
I'm so happy for you, and others still searching / fighting to find the way through in moments of despair. Continue to try things
So happy for you and your family.❤
You guys seem to communicate well together. Better than any relationship I’ve ever had. Congrats!
Happy anniversary you adorable love birds. Kudos to Rob. Beastie Boys are an awesome group and Intergalactic is one of their best songs.🎉
Great episode.Its just so good to hear and see you talk about such things,particularly in your marriage
Congratulations on your anniversary 🎉
Thank you for sharing having cranky days during withdrawal. It’s so real and helps me feel seen ❤️
I’m a pretty direct person. I would ask my psych. “Why does it seem like you have no interest in how well this is working?” ALSO…you two made me cry on your date🥰
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I don't think she should ask that.
It's an aggressive question, and she wouldn't get any true answer, if he's a real professional (in the positive way).
Moreover, in my opinion, her decision to criticize him in public shows she is not quite in her right mind. One shouldn't do a thing like that to a doctor that treats you for year and years.
@@spr481 That's backwards. Check your bias, why are doctors out of reach?
@@spr481 depends on tone of voice. Which we didn’t get from Johns comment
@@spr481 Perhaps it isn't judgment we are hearing from her, but hurt? Not like consciously or anything, but when you are told for years and years that you HAVE to be on medication and there are no other options for you, even if they are dramatically effecting your quality of life, then to find out there was this other option all along may trigger some hurt and resentment, even if you rationally know that it wouldn't have been an option your doctor could offer.
I know I am changing in this world. My relationships are supportive. I am now wanting my personal space more and the noise to go away with my relationships. I am grateful that they're supportive of me.
It’s nice to see you all so happy.☺️
I think your spouses love and understanding, support and caretaking when it’s needed probably has a huge impact in your recovery and being able to not need meds anymore.
I wouldn't think he's not "so not curious" as he is skeptical. I'm only guessing that he won't get more "curious" until there is adequate research and evidence on a broader scale. Clearly this has been GREAT for you and that's wonderful. But the question is "will it be great generally". While of course I would say yes, even if just for general physical health; which always helps attitude, outlook etc. The level of symptom reduction may vary considerably depending on many other factors; comorbidities for example. All the best
There is research about metabolism and its link to mental health going back to the first half of the 1900s.
Wrong. He’s not skeptical. He’s ticked off and he’s going to be losing a lifelong customer the medical field as we know it today, is only concerned with creating customers for life. When their customers find natural or homeopathic ways to help themselves, that makes the doctors in the pharmaceutical companies is quite irritated. I’ve done many natural things and have told my doctors about it. And I get nothing but rolls and berate like I’m an idiot. , It’s my body and I know best. These doctors don’t have a clue. They’re only doing and saying what the pharmaceutical companies pay them to do so really there’s nothing weird about her doctor not caring. It’s pretty darn typical these days.
@@LA-nm4mn that may be true about some and I have known at least one who was a "serial prescriber". But not all and I don't (obviously) know this shrink and NEITHER do you.
@@ldanger22 absolutely. But not on KETO specifically and the variations. For example, the carnivore diet (or you may call it the most extreme form of KETO) is the only thing that worked for some people but absolutely is not indicated for others. Consequently determining different variations on metabolism will be important in the long run. But quite promising.
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this is so amazing. I am so happy for you, well done for all that you have accomplished here :)
Hey Lauren, I am going through the same thing right now on medical keto and trying to maintain my running. If you focus on staying in zone 2 and 3 only for your runs, you can rebuild your cardio structure to match your Central Nervous system which has just gone through a major restructuring with keto. It’s not fun watching your overall pace go down but eventually you will improve that by using the zone 2, 3 as a running strategy for a while. Thanks for the recommendation on the exogenous ketones. 👍🏻👍🏻
I agree that the lack of curiosity is irritating
Or maybe he's realistic and heard stories like that many times in his career...?
@@spr481 Or he may think it's a fad. My psychiatrist has allowed me to taper my meds by 25% on medical keto so far, but he's clearly skeptical. He listens to my talking of the evidence for keto as though I'm telling him a fairytale. I think Rob is right about it probably needing to be patient-led, cause most clinicians are still led by big pharma at this point.
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I presume that doctors can't take responsibility for a non-researched treatment method.
They can't express their opinion, because later they might be sued for malpractice.
So they go along with the patient's wished, as much as they can, but no more than that.
@@EmmaSuprema888 Back in the 90s, I had a friend who is a psychiatrist and when I told him some side effects I had from my antidepressant, and that I could ameliorate them using high amounts of vitamins, he said he could not report these because the AMA would force him out.
I'm rooting for you. I so truly hope it goes into remission forever. What a great gift that would be.
Sometimes a change will do you good. That's what popped into my mind when I saw you were flabbergasted by the response of your achievements. Btw, that's also one of Sheryl Crow's songs. Thank you for sharing.
What in incredible empowering and powerful journey to see unfold before our eyes! Life is good! Thank you! :)
You and rob are such a cute couple. I am currently on medication for schizophrenia and if the keto can cure my mental illness i will definitely try it. It's also so inspiring to see someone with a mental illness have a successful marriage. I thought it was impossible but seeing other people with their mental illness find someone, motivates me to find someone with my mental illness now that i have seen others do it too.
Also really liked the point about self led care. Each person with the illness is different and**** person centred care**** is the way to go in mental health care.
Way to go! I've been watching for about a year and any hope about what works is great for everyone. I wish you well on your current endeavors and your continued journey into wellbeing.