I'm super excited about this M2C shock setup 😍. Experimenting with newly arrived piston sizes as we speak 👀. The aim is to pair them perfectly with the stock 1000cst oil weights for simplicity. Keep you posted on progress as testing continues👊. If you're tired of chassis bendage 😱 click the this link and be done with it already🤣🤣. Your Kraton will thank you later 😍 (use the "m2ccoupon" code for 20% off)www.m2cracing.com/product.sc?productId=937
How do you keep your diffs from exploding?! I am running a castle 1717 in my Kraton with super swampers x38(i think). My weak spot would be these diffs im just wondering how long yours last running like that!
@@chrisoconnor3119 thanks Chris 👍!!!! I shim my diffs and try not to land on throttle. Still using Mugen seiki E0206 and Tekno #1222 shims. The V4 diffs are shimmed differently of course with planetary and outdrive cup bearing shims from the factory. 😎💪👊👊
Hey Rich have you tried the hobbystar escs at all I'm wondering if I should go with the 150 amp of theirs or the hobby wing max 8 they seem pretty similar and the hobby star rating the amps are a little bit higher it's like a 1050 or something
@@shanemcclain8562 I would opt for the Hobbywing Max8 personally. I haven't tried the Hobbystar 150A myself, but know of 2 people who simply couldn't run 6s with them 😝. Can't recall what the resolution was, but they were left disappointed. 😎💪👊👊
I need to build one like yours that takes a beating! Careful though dude, you cant say the chassis bends, the fanboys will call you a hater or say you're not using it right lol
LMAO 🤣🤣!!!! Thanks Kev 😊. You always crack me up Brother. Some people don't seem to fully appreciate your sense of humor and sarcasm😱. I definitely do and am always ready for a good laugh, even if at myself 👍. Bash on my friend!!!! 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
@@war_josh1550 I agree 100%. Have nothing against JBIRC 👍. Just think weight needs to be added very carefully when doing upgrades. Mitch Looper nailed it with his simple alternative. 😎💪👊👊
Thanks so much Brother 👊!!!! If you land squared up they'll take it all day long. Have a really nasty landing on a BIG send and all bets are off 👀. I'm still amazed they can take the hits that they do 👍. The sheer speed is really my favorite part 😍🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Brother I'd have to agree 100% 👀!!! ARRMA absolutely nailed it with the Infraction 😜. Best part is you don't need anywhere special to fully appreciate it's design. 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
Thanks so much Tony 😜!!!! These upgrades make an incredible difference 💪. Really hoping to get this M2C shock setup dialed. Happy bashing as always Brother 🍻. Appreciate the kind words 👍👍😎💪👊👊
Thanks so much Kimberly 😍!!!! Think this is the best comment ever👀. Thank goodness I had Voltage parts to salvage off my V2👍. As great as they are, having 3 Kraton's would be a bit much 🤣🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Great stuff man, these are going to be a great option, I think it will solve a huge issue for many of us. I still feel in awe of your driving and flying skills bro!!! The more I learn the more I'm impressed!!!
Thanks so much Brother 😊!!!! These upgrades make such a difference in durability and performance 👀. This shock setup is looking super promising. Appreciate the kind words my friend 👊🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Nice shocks!!!!..I got some "Big Bore Shocks" from ebay..The bodies are nice billet but the pistons were crap..Valving was drilled all funky causing a different feeling out of each shock lol..The seller is sending me a new set though..With 3 valve pistons installed ..$40 so I took a shot..Once the new shocks get here I'll make a video on them
Thanks Matthew 😊!!!! Hoping to figure out the perfect piston match soon👍. This could be a really nice change in handling once everything is dialed in. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Awesome video bro some great upgrades rite there definitely beefcake for sure lol gonna try out those shock caps on my V2 Goliath just got the V4 shocks on it so that thing should be ready to rock bummer on the servo man happy bashing my brotha👍🤙😎🤪😜😝🙈🙉🙊👊✌
Thanks so much Chris 😜!!!! I tell ya, every time I go to test something I lose a motor, servo, or have something else totally unforseen happen 🤣🤣👍. I'm dead set on both getting a bash in and figuring out what changes are needed 👊. Just got another piston shipment to experiment with today and have a drill kit if needed to really fine tune the perfect hole size. The rear feels about perfect, just need the fronts dialed 👌. The goal is to keep the stock Arrma 80 weight/1000cst and tweak the piston around that for simplicity. No more center brace on this V4 🤣🤣😎💪👊👊
Thanks Ry😊!!! The Kraton is the perfect platform to go Beefcake with 😍. Plenty of room for bigger electronics and upgrades. Truly is a bashing Beast. 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
SWEET clash of the Kratons vid brother Rich!!😎💪The M2C shock upgrades are looking nice and seem to work well! I agree, the stock shocks do work very well but over time they do get lazy so this is a nice upgrade for sure!👌Some absolute killer footage with both rigs!! Sucks on the servo!! My V4 one is about to take a dump...It's getting pretty slow!😂Thinking of Turning my old Kraton into a Talion Hybrid with a slightly different setup than my V3. Got a M2C chassis on the way for the V4 Kraton and a couple HR goodies! AWESOME vid once again bro!!!😎🤘👍✌✌🍻
Thanks so much brother Eric 😜!!!! So far I'm very impressed with this shock setup 👀. I wasn't expecting much benefit to be honest, but the shocks feel more forgiving and better handling overall 👌. Still plenty of spring off the jumps with less bounce back on the landings. About to take off to try smaller front pistons and better seals 👍. Definitely a work in progress but it's very promising and a simple conversion. Bummer on the servo🤣🤣😝. I'm trying my second PowerHD thanks to yours and others feedback 👍. Looking forward to your new combo build Bro👀. Enjoy your vacation 😊🤘🤘😎💪💪💪👊👊
Always enjoyable to watch you air it out. Awesome watching the evolution of your cars. How you enjoying going from winter straight to summer? Brutal! We farm rice 80 miles north of you and this weather is about killing us!🥵.
Thanks so much Mike 😊!!!! Man it's been a weird weather year once again 😬. Huge props to you for your hard work Brother 👊. Working in the heat is no joke. Love my rice and appreciate everyone with the commitment to farm. Just happy we've had some rain this year. Thanks for what you do Bro. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
a joy to watch as always! I will be ordering my m2c chassis at the end of the month along with towers braces etc they are really awesome trucks and I have learned much just watching thank you :)
Thanks so much Brother 😊!!!! The M2C chassis solves so many problems 😍. That with the other upgrades makes for an extremely durable basher. It's worth it building a Beast. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
I absolutely love my Kraton it's a beast, just keeps on going and going soaking up the hard hits like it's nothing. It's completely stock atm, the gearing, everything but aluminium chassis braces are in the post... but what a tank! Money well spent 😁
That's SO AWESOME to hear Dave😜!!!! I still think the Kraton 6s is the best RTR basher hands down for the money 👊. Just hope the STX2 controller disappears in the future 🤣🤣😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 that controller is pants fair play dude. I use a radiolink controller. Was cheap as chips but far better quality than the stx2. I think you're right about the Kraton 6s being best out the box basher bro. Awesome fun
Great video rich good insight to your highly assembled rigs m2 chassis look great also shock towers and shock set up looks great too. Some good air and speed there.👍🤘 motors look impressive too
Thanks so much Carlo👊!!!! To me it's totally worth setting these rigs up to take abuse 💪. The upgrades have proven their worth repeatedly. I was bummed I couldn't run my 1730kv Kraton to do a better comparison with both the motors and shocks. Both have incredible instant torque 👀. Really hope you like your Hobbystar my friend 😊🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 no worries they look great. And thats what there for to be pushed to there limits without them being pushed improvements cant be gained in all aspects so its great you cover a vast area of the rig. Im sure i will rich should be here soon.👍🤘
Great bashing n info vid bro, im charging batteries now, I finally FINALLY got me an Outcast yesterday it was delivered so im super excited to get it out for a run
OMG👀!!!! I'm SO excited for you Stevo 😱. CONGRATS 👏👏😊. I think every Arrma owner needs an Outcast 6s. Such a wild FUN platform. Appreciate the comment Brother 👍. Hope you enjoy your new Beast 😍🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Good project, playing with shocks. The multi hole pistons give you massive pack and i'm not sure, if this is the right way. Maybe there is a perfect setup for landing without any bounce on a perfect day (in temperature), but that will be a long way in testing. The biggest problem with our rc shocks are massive high and low pressure zones around the pistons. This, without pressurizing the oil, ever will suffer in rebound damping after a total collapse (landing). I hope you'll find a solution. Good luck!
Thanks so much Marc👊!!!! Shocks are a complex subject for sure. There's definitely no perfect set up for all tastes and conditions. Temperature has a big impact no question. I'm trying to be as scientific and objective as possible while studying them on the bench and in the field 👀. There's definitely a noticeable difference in friction and stroke smoothness between these O style pistons and the stockers with an empty (lightly oiled) shock body. It's hard to discern exactly what affect the piston notches on Mitch's pistons have on directing pressure towards the O ring🤔. His intent was to slow rebound further by directing some oil with the notches. The actual piston cut tolerances are very precise. We'll see how things go, but I'm enjoying getting oil on my fingers 🤣 and trying to find a solid setup. Regardless of the end result, I'm learning a few things in the process. 👍👍😎💪👊👊
What a killer session dear brother ❤, some seeious massive airs, amd torture test the o-rings and caps, the setup looks very good 😎. Somehow i "liked" the v4 more, maybe a strange feeling, how eva, awsm..just AWSOME brother ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks so much Brother 😊!!!! The V4 session with the M2C caps/pistons was more Fun😍. It wasn't nearly as hot and I felt more fired up 😜. Really wanted to run the 1730 motor again the second test😢. Leaving soon. Servo is swapped and batteries charged 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Hey Rich, looks like these hobbystar motors are not waterproof. Are you removing g them each time you give your rig a bath? How much moisture can one take before becoming a paperweight?
The shock caps are looking killer man! Smooth and the delrin insert is much much needed!! Now if we can convince Mitch to do the lower shock mount in delrin we will be all set 👌 Thanks for braving the heat for us man! 100 degrees is no joke 😱 Now that I have seen both of the motors back to back the 1730 with the max8 looks to be the better performer. Of course if it overheats none of that matters 🤣 I still recommend the 4082 1600kv with a Max8 it has done so well in my beefcake Kraton 👍
Thanks so much Aaron 😊!!!! I'm super stoked with how this setup is going 👀. Was worried I wouldn't get lift off the jumps, but it hasn't been a problem at all👌. Landings feel softer with less bounce. That would be Killer if Mitch offered Delrin rod ends 😍. I honestly still favor the 1730, but my 1480 has been problem free with regards to ESC pairing and good temps 👍. I keep forgetting about the 4082🤣. Really appreciate and respect your input about it Brother 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
I generally run max punch setting on all my ESC's because I want the option for instant full power when needed. Just let my finger do the adjustments as necessary. 😎💪👊👊
Wow - some serious air and nice control. I picked up a 6s Kraton this weekend. Question, what would you say are the best few upgrades for 1/3 the amount of Air that you are getting? Thanks in advance!
Thanks Brother 👊!!!! The essential 5 I swear by are aluminum chassis supports, servo mount, RPM rear skid plate, and either RPM or Tbone front bumper. 😎💪👊👊
Would have liked to see a few more big air to flat ground landings with those emulsion shocks. Would have been cool to see the footage one right after the other like you did with the stock shocks vs those, but you didn't really air the thing out in the second part. Great footage as always! You are one hell of a wheel man!
Thanks Bryan 😊!!!! Just to clarify, this was all footage running the M2C emulsion set up. The first part was prior to swapping my V4 to M2C chassis, bigger motor, towers.... etc. My plan was to do a side by side style bash comparing stock with the M2C but my servo changed that. The other part of testing involves mixed terrain running, cornering, drop testing, along with jumps of course. Not everyone is into doing big sends, but hard flat landings are a good test for sure 👍. My primary initial goal was to see how the pistons held up and gauge whether I'm even going to like this setup. So far I'm definitely digging it 😍. Lots more testing to go. 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 Oh, I see. I thought the first half was the truck without the bad servo and stock shocks and then when you tried running the second truck with the bad servo, you swapped the shocks to the first truck. I appreciate the break down. Now I can just go check out the v4 video to see how it responds to those big jumps.
@@olds97lss the first part I was running totally stock oils (80 weight/1000cst). The second part I ran 1000cst rear/2000cst front 👀. I did that because the front felt a bit soft the first run and I didn't have anything between 1-2k. The issue is ARRMA uses 1.4mm rear pistons and 1.2mm fronts. My first test pistons were all 1.5mm. Just got another shipment today that should allow me to dial things in nicely 👌. The goal is to tune the piston combo to work perfectly with the stock 1000cst. 👍👍
Super killer bash on the both V3 and V4 Kraton Rich. No holding back and no hesitation airing them out. Kraton is such a classic Beast like no other. I definitely see difference between Arrma shocks and M2C shock mods. Anything that makes experience better is a win in my book. Any difference in overall handling between V4 and V3 Kraton bro? Bash on man..
You guys use stainless screws with m2c chassis , im going check out shock mods if they available yet or rich you just testing to improve? The mod i think i asked already lol awsome bash usual here enjoy how its done 💪💪💪💪💪🏋️♀️🏋️♀️
Thanks so much Philip 👊!!!! Was just thinking about you earlier. Just trying to imagine what you might do with the new Limitless 👀. I'm thinking this platform in the right hands would be Incredible 😱!!!! Truly hope ARRMA or Horizon folks get you hooked up with one pronto. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Hey rich. Firstly i was curious if you ran any upgraded springs for your shocks or do you just use stock? Secondly im also running the hobbywing max8 with the hobbystar 1480kv 4092.. going to use a 22t gear.. do you think il have problems overheating that setup?
Since ARRMA came out with the updated (V3-V5) shocks, I only run stock springs with the 6s rigs. 22T is what I normally use with my Hobbystar 1480kv 4092 with stock size tires with either 150 or 160A ESC 👍. I usually gear to about 150F for maximum performance and efficiency. Much hotter and I'll gear down or wheel size down. Temps have lots of variables of course.... smooth bearings, good mesh, rig weight, outside temps....etc. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Nice bench video,,like the o ring around piston... bladderless shocks like the HD shocks i found... I was not as impressed as i thought with the V4,,, Feels to me that the plastics have been changed... think they cheaped out...
Thanks so much Brother 👊!!!! I'm really hoping this shock setup works out. So far I'm digging them👀. Just trying some different piston sizes to pair better with the stock 80 weight. Trying to keep it simple for people. I've had decent luck with my V4 thus far, but you nailed it with the center brace being too rigid 👍. The M2C chassis is the best solution I'm aware of. It flexes slightly, but doesn't bend. The difference is night and day 💪. No bent center driveline of jacked diffs. It's like building a good house. Starts with a quality foundation.🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 still haven't broke down and spent the money... i really haven't had any problem with stock chassis yet... as long as i have front and rear chassis braces in... i don't send it that high so it holds up.. They look strong as f*** though...lol💪💪👊🤙
Hi Rich, Ive had a slash 2D, a Bison V2 & currently have a DHK Hobby to bash. It looks like I can stretch to a new Kraton V3 6s or the new Kraton V4 4s. In your honest opinion, which would you get for starters? Thanks in advance.
I would honestly grab a V3 with Tactic controller if you can save some $$$. Do some basic upgrades and have at it 👍. If you start bashing harder or having chassis bendage, invest in an M2C Goliath Series chassis. Worth every penny. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Nice video on the Kraton so do you believe the the tower to tower brace isn't really needed as I have seen another video where the operator thinks it caused his rear diff to brake away from the chassis?.
The tower brace is definitely not needed with the M2C 7075 chassis 💪. With the stock V4 setup, I'm thinking the brace would be more effective if it had some give like the new 4s design. All my homemade tower braces had some give built into them and worked quite well overall. It's certainly true that a bolted/rigid tower brace can transfer energy and cause lateral damages during really bad nose or tail impacts 👀👍👍😎💪👊👊
Was wondering if you could help me out. I bought the v4 Kraton and Notorious. Love them so much, selling all my Traxxas. Id like to get a typhon, talion and another kraton and outcast to build. Cant afford to buy all 4 new. What do you avoid when buying non v4 models? Any tips? Figured you're the guy to know lol. Would be a good video idea for someone to do. Explain it all. Thanks
Hey Rich what bumper set up are you running it looks like the T-Bone but without hinge pin block? Yes I’ve just bitten the bullet and got me a v4, and beefing it up strait away!
Hey Brother 👊!!!! I'm running Tbone Basher Typhon 6s bumpers on all my 6s rigs. Just need the mini Arrma bumper to hold in the hinge pins. Comes with the Composite ball cup goodie bag 😎💪👊👊
Hey rich, love your videos, love your info. I noticed you have the hobbystar motors in your kraton’s with the max8. I also have a max8 in my typhon paired with the stock 2050 motor, and for some reason my motor tends to get really hot! I also have a v4 kraton that has a max6 with 1650kv motor. I guess my question would be, how do you keep the temps down with your motor setups? Do you think it would be alright to bolt up a 1650kv motor on my max8 typhon? Thanks for your time! Keep up the good vids, thank you for sharing all your wealth of info!
So sorry I missed your question Brother 😝. I generally control motor temps through gearing or wheel size. Assuming the bearings are all healthy and connections and solder joints solid, I gear down or wheel size down if temps go much past 150-160 tops. 150 is my target temp for maximum performance and efficiency. Beyond that performance suffers. 1650kv should pair great with most any 150A ESC, but runs a bit stronger with the Max6. Hope you got it sorted Brother 🍻. Appreciate the kind words!!!! 🍻🤙🤙😎💪👊👊
Question for ya... How fast is the 6S Kraton if you were run it on just one 3S battery? Or can you even do that? Is it still pretty fast, but just not stupid fast? I see value in running it this way if I hand the controller over to my 12 and 13-year-old boys. I do understand that the new remote has a feature that allows you to toggle between 50%, 75%, and 100%. However I feel like those variables Would be valuable even on a 3S battery to slow it down even more. The question is can you even run it on one 3S battery? Lastly if you can… Could you set it up to run twice as long if you run the connections utilizing a parallel adapter. In essence, my two 5400mah 3S Batteries would last 10,800mah of time. Have you ever ran your 6s Kraton or any of your RC cars utilizing a parallel adapter to double the time running, with lower cell count? Thx!!
I've never ran a parallel adapter to say🤔. I personally prefer shorter run cycles to simply swap packs and look my rig over while it cools a bit. You can run 3, 4, and 6s with the BLX185 ESC no problem. 3s has decent speed and power especially for kids. I'm not using the STX2 controller. Simply don't like the grip or cheap oversized plastic wheel or spring tension. Just swapped in the old Tactic TTX300. 🍻😎💪👊👊
My next question, has to do with the spectrum remote. It seems there’s quite a bit of delay especially when trying to go in reverse. Also if I set the power down to its lowest setting 50% On the remote. And I don’t have a throttle dial turned all the way up. It doesn’t even recognize reverse. Not sure if that’s normal. From what I understand you switched back to the tactic. If I buy a better remote am I going to see in improvement in at least lag time (especially with reverse) if I just simply get a better remote? Or is that delay when you’re at a stop and trying to initiate reverse a typical annoyance everyone experiences in RC?
Thanks so much Brother 🤗!!!! That's tough to answer, but I feel the stock tower brace would work better if it had a bit more give to it. Perhaps if it had the rubber insert like the 4s brace. For brutal impacts, the stock 6s top brace can lead to reverse bends towards the rear of the chassis vs upward bowing. Best solution is honestly the Goliath Series chassis with aluminum chassis supports and no tower brace. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Great video Rich! Can you tell me if a particular Arrma might be less likely to have chassis flex/twist or are they all susceptible to hard bashing, especially when the drivers last name is Duperbash? lol. I've had many bad wrecks with my 4s Outcast 4x4 with only a-arm breakages but I'm not as merciless as you because I'm not as skilled as you. (understatement lol) Thanks Rich!
Thanks so much Brother 👊!!!! The shorter Typhon and Outcast are less likely to have chassis bendage by virtue of less leverage between bulkheads. The 4s models are fairly brilliant as is honestly. I've personally bent all the 6s models despite aluminum chassis supports and running tower braces. The 3mm stamped aluminum chassis has limitations for sure. It's fine until you start playing rough or have a really bad hit 👀. The M2C 4mm 7075 chassis upgrade option is a true game changer 👌. 100% solution for obvious and subtle problems that arise from excessive chassis flex and bendage. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Hey buddy I'm having issues with my V4 kraton on the front diff that little nipple that hangs out that goes into the circle on that red piece behind your front bumper it always breaks off on me and then doesn't let my shocks stay tight anymore and they kind of go up and down. Have you ever had that happen to you when doing bigger jumps. Cuz I'm not sending it as far as you are I have sent it about 70 ft quite a few times and that's when itnormally pops off. I ended up getting the aluminum hot racing front diff bulkhead to try and prevent that from happening so I was wondering if I'm doing something wrong and that's why it's popping off. You can shoot me a message and shed some light on that for me that be great.
Do you put those plastic shims back on. A arm hinge pins when your building armas i ordered infraction i noiticed they really packed in there so be no play wondering if you use plastic washers so dont jokey out on hard landings
I've used both plastic washers and the stock plastic C clips. I've never had a problem with my clips bouncing off with landings. Just lose them sometimes when pulling my rigs apart🤣🤣😎💪👊👊
I think it's absolutely BADASS 👀!!!! The Outcast has long been one of my favorite rigs since it's release 😍. It's far more challenging than the Kraton, but truly more wild Mad FUN too. If you want one, I say go for it!!!! 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Rich Duperbash thanks mate. This is going to be a massive purchase for me. Was thinking of going for a Xmaxx but thought it was a bit expensive to buy everything for me
Good God 🙏 I hope to get one 😱. Rarely do I get RC lust (except with the new Typhons) but the Infraction has my full attention👀. I would absolutely LOVE to street bash her into a dirty place 🤣🤣. Definitely think she has Mad potential. The design is so built for speed....wicked with style. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Double Beef cake bashing 😵 Love it. There was some massive launches 🚀 in there Rich☝🏼You stuck that landing at the end beautifully. Looks like your loving the R and D atm 😁 Good work Bro keep it up 👍🏻🤙🏼👏🏼😁✊🏻🤘🏻 Dude I surprised I haven’t seen you with the infraction. Thought they would have sent u one to rip out the front of your place ?? It looks so Sweet bro 😋 What’s your thoughts 💭 ??
Thanks so much Cam😜!!!! It was inevitable I'd borrow parts from my V2 to beef out my V4 💪. So happy to get the Hobbystar 1730 back in service. Testing is fun for sure. Just takes lots of patience and careful objective examination👀. I'd LOVE to get my hands on an Infraction 😍. Could totally see doing some Crazy street bashing with that rocket 😱!!!! I honestly think the design and innovation is Brilliant. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Nice footage.. and u got some sweet skills man.. dont know if this post is too old, but im thinking of getting talion exb. Ive got a kraton v4 running stock only changed the radio and vented the tyres. Question is.. should I get the beefcake m2c kit or the new talion? Cheers from Denmark..
Thanks Thomas 🤗. I've always loved both the Kraton and Talion. They handle quite a bit differently. The Talion EXB chassis and towers aren't as strong as M2C 7075 T6, but they're stronger than the stamped aluminum that comes with the RTR models no question. I can't really answer which direction you should go with the Talion vs getting the beefcake kit. I'd probably want both trucks myself and upgrade as you go or see fit for your needs. 🍻
@@richduperbash2966 .. thx for the reply Rich. I know there's no straight answer. Ill probably start with and upgrade on the kraton. Jims bearings, servo and motor mount, hubs.. getting to know the car its been a while since l last had an rc.. 25 years maby. Still makes me smile.. stay safe brother and Bash On..
@@thomasholdtchristensen9566 sounds like a great plan my friend 🤗. I also had a similar 20+ year break from the hobby. Brushless power got me hooked for good. Getting to know your rig well truly pays off. You'll enjoy it that much more 😉
Rich awesome videos as always. For your builds do you prefer sensored or sensorless? From my understanding is sensored just gives better smoother response at the low end of speed compared to sensorless. But most sensored systems end up turning to sensorless at the higher speeds to get the benefits of the sensorless system. I never driven or handled a sensored system so was just wondering what your thoughts were and what you liked and why over the other as I try to figure out a build setup for electronics.
Thanks Donnie 🤗. I have limited experience using sensored. It's very smooth at lower speeds, but I don't drive slowly for very long and the guys I raced buggy on the track with didn't seem to have an advantage. I don't feel bashers benefit much from sensored setups. 😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 Rich thanks for the feedback, that is good to know. I am kind of like you and my daughter thinks so the same "Oh my Dad is going crazy and going way to fast", is there really any speed other than Full Throttle? :-P So in theory if you get one cool but not really something that necessary and more $. What are your thoughts on the Spektrum electronics (ESC and Motors) and how they compare to Castle, Hobbywing, etc? I am still trying to find out where products stand in the hierarchy of Tier 1 (best ultimate) to Tier 4 (dumpster fire worse) out there and also never sure on how the stuff that comes from the manufactures are compare.
@@DonnieKluck the Spectrum electronics are highly efficient and reliable overall. Definitely not bad. That's why guys are able to pull them from RTR's and get a decent price if they choose to go with a different power plant. There's a wide degree of opinion regarding which brand is better. I like Hobbywing (they likely make the Spectrum ESC's and get rebranded). Castle has some nice stuff, but I view it as overpriced. Their power switches are super old-school, but they allow data logging with their Castle link which can provide very useful info as well. Most guys have to try different brands and set-ups to reach their own conclusions in the end. Bottom line, you can build a very fun, high performance rig with about any of them. 👍
@@richduperbash2966 Thanks for the information I do appreciate it, the landscape has changed a whole lot in the 15 years I was gone from RC. So I really do appreciate you helping me out and taking time to answer my questions and comments no matter how off the wall they maybe or newbish, thank you fine sir. That is a good on the Castle part which I could totally see. This whole COVID time has changed and screwed up pricing every where for everything so if you did not have a good reference point prior to the pandemic hard to tell what is a good price/value for what you are getting. Glad to hear that the can build something good either way with any of them.
@@richduperbash2966 Rich how are you doing buddy? Well I kind of got my self in a pickle with my Castle Creations Mamba Monster X 8S ESC and 1717 (1650kv) motor as I was trying to change out the pinion gear from 18T to 20T, and trying to adjust the 20T or change it out but in the process snapped the hex driver off in the grub screw. I tried to drill it out but that did not work so instead I am sending the motor to Castle to hopefully fix under non warranty work. But in the mean time would you have any recommendations for another motor that I could and should run with the CC MM X 8S ESC? I did not know if I would have any issues running something else with the Castle ESC or what you think would be the best motor to run. Figured it would eventually would be a spare I would have once I get the Castle one back. Any guidance or help always greatly appreciated buddy.
Yeah I just tossed my badlands for a new set of backflips for my V3 KRATON .. LHS had a good deal on them and haven’t been able to get the new copperheads.
The stock setup is 80 weight. You might like going 60 weight 🤔. Just expect a little more initial front to back weight transfer on throttle/braking. You'll lose some dampening, but might like the change in handling. 😎💪👊👊
I think both are extremely capable as basher's. The Kraton would be my first pick for it's agility and wonderful aftermarket support. The XMaxx is definitely a Beast and can tackle seriously rough terrain like few others. It's BIG and heavy though. Really a totally different experience than a monster speed truggy like the Kraton. Boils down to personal preference 🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Changing your shock angles makes a significant difference in dampening, stability, traction, and responsiveness. The more angled inward, the more initial dampening and overall responsiveness. The more upright angled, the less initial dampening you have, but generally have better lateral traction cornering and greater stability over terrain. Upright is more forgiving. Here's a link that has good shock setup info. 🍻😎💪👊👊www.myrcbox.com/articles/tech-article-off-road-suspension-tuning-guide/
Hey Rich, why do you not like the Arrma stock 2050kv motors? Or.. why do you swap them out on all your trucks? Is it that much of a difference? Just asking bro cuz I’m going n the middle of a rebuild now, Talion /Kraton. Love the informative vids bro with big bash attached to them! 🏎🧰🚀👍🏻
Hey Brother 👊. I have no problem with the stock system 👍. I'm still running it in my Talion and Outcast. These 4092 motors just have gobs more grunt and torque 👀. They work Killer for clearing gap jumps with minimal run up space. Aside from that, I just like switching things up for variety 😋. The only issue I have with the stock ESC is the silly on/off switch. It's prone to failure. I really prefer the large button style with separate set button like with the Hobbywing. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Nice bro! Ya I wasn’t thinking about the short run for ramping off a jump, makes total sense! I don’t like the esc either really but so far so good. The controller is a whole other story, very glitchy. Any how thanks for the reply man, ya I was just curious on that. 🏎🧰🚀👍🏻👍🏻
@@bwoodard907 you bet Bro 👊. I'm over trying to adjust to the STX2 controller. It's really a disappointment for such fine 6s rigs😝. Think Horizon has gotten the message by now. 👍
You don't need a center brace with the M2C chassis 💪. My brace was very bowed after my last run with the stock chassis. The V4 would be better off with a 4s style brace that has some give. 👀😎💪👊👊
Thanks so much Ed👊!!! I was running stock oils (1000cst) the first part and 1000cst rear/2000cst front the second part. Our goal is to size the pistons to work perfectly with the stock oils 👌. As of today, I have smaller sizes to get it tuned just right 👍👍😎💪👊👊
Thank you Rich! I think I’m about an hr away from one of your bashing spots, would love to come join u one of these days. We have a Notorious with mostly Voltage upgrades and some GKA :)
Sweet Bash Rich, Some Monster Sends 😮😮😮😮🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘 The Kraton is a BEAST 😈😈😈😈😈😈 Bummer on the servo bro 😬😬😬😬😬 If you wallet permits, maybe give a hitec a crack bro, they can take some serious punishment 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃😮 Glad to see you out in some nice weather 😎🤘👌 it's cold and windy over my way at the moment 🙄🙄🙄😅😅😅
Thanks so much Matt 😜!!!! It was only a matter of time before the V4 got the "beefcake" injection 🤣🤣😱😋😋. I harvested almost all the Voltage off my old Outcast 👌. Swapped bulkheads/diffs, shafts, and links. Kinda the slow way to build, but the only way 👊. The servo was a dang bummer 😝😝😝😝💩. To be fair, that Savox lived a long hard life. Appreciate the Hitech suggestion Brother 👍. I have a 40$ HDPower wp 23kg going in. Same specs as my 1210sg just a lot cheaper. Been running one in my Talion for months. Hope your weather improves Bro 👊. It's about to get super toasty here 👀🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Not sure how to go about this, I have a friend whom is dealing with cancer and may not be around for his family in the next 5 years. He has 2 young guys 10 &16 and when I'm over their the kids are gaming most times. I propose an idea of trying to bring this fam to spend time with eachother thru RC. So I would be asking you/the rc community to collect organize then donate monies to purchase the younger one an rc of some sort. This is asking alot and not knowing if the kid will even take to Rc hobbies it's a shot in the dark. The kid does make UA-cam vids under the name Christian Woosley. This is just an idea at the moment to try and maybe do something nice. As for myself I would not be able to logistically put this together myself, and also would be a conflict of interest as this is my best friend. This is just a thought I had.
These M2C Racing bladderless caps and pistons should become available on the M2C website after testing. Finalizing the best piston size combination back to front. Not sure exactly, but things are looking pretty good. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Yes they are 🤣🤣👍. Good way to find weak spots and limitations in design and durability 👀. The upgrades make it possible to dish out regular beatings and just keep going. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Thanks Bro👊!!!! These are just M2C caps and custom pistons 👍. They're a direct fit on the OEM shocks. The goal is improved performance with a "zero rebound" emulsion style set up. This is only achievable by removing the bladder style stock caps. 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 same here. I get a rush from sending the v4 Kraton and Notorious off unpredictable 40-50' jumps! Front flips, back flips, floaters, and land most. lol. The huge difference is they hold up to way more than Id think. About 75 runs each, had 1 front axle break so far. Unreal. Maintenance is easier on these too. Im selling all other brands now, all in on ARRMA!
I'm super excited about this M2C shock setup 😍. Experimenting with newly arrived piston sizes as we speak 👀. The aim is to pair them perfectly with the stock 1000cst oil weights for simplicity. Keep you posted on progress as testing continues👊. If you're tired of chassis bendage 😱 click the this link and be done with it already🤣🤣. Your Kraton will thank you later 😍 (use the "m2ccoupon" code for 20% off)www.m2cracing.com/product.sc?productId=937
How do you keep your diffs from exploding?! I am running a castle 1717 in my Kraton with super swampers x38(i think). My weak spot would be these diffs im just wondering how long yours last running like that!
Oh and super bash session!
@@chrisoconnor3119 thanks Chris 👍!!!! I shim my diffs and try not to land on throttle. Still using Mugen seiki E0206 and Tekno #1222 shims. The V4 diffs are shimmed differently of course with planetary and outdrive cup bearing shims from the factory. 😎💪👊👊
Hey Rich have you tried the hobbystar escs at all I'm wondering if I should go with the 150 amp of theirs or the hobby wing max 8 they seem pretty similar and the hobby star rating the amps are a little bit higher it's like a 1050 or something
@@shanemcclain8562 I would opt for the Hobbywing Max8 personally. I haven't tried the Hobbystar 150A myself, but know of 2 people who simply couldn't run 6s with them 😝. Can't recall what the resolution was, but they were left disappointed. 😎💪👊👊
I need to build one like yours that takes a beating! Careful though dude, you cant say the chassis bends, the fanboys will call you a hater or say you're not using it right lol
Kev you need the m2c racing chassis the jbi ones are too heavy
LMAO 🤣🤣!!!! Thanks Kev 😊. You always crack me up Brother. Some people don't seem to fully appreciate your sense of humor and sarcasm😱. I definitely do and am always ready for a good laugh, even if at myself 👍. Bash on my friend!!!! 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
@@war_josh1550 I agree 100%. Have nothing against JBIRC 👍. Just think weight needs to be added very carefully when doing upgrades. Mitch Looper nailed it with his simple alternative. 😎💪👊👊
I think keV probably needs the heavier chassis .ha ha.
I can’t get over how massive these jumps are and the car still drives away!! I feel like if I mess up a 3 foot jump it almost totals my car 😂🤣
Thanks so much Brother 👊!!!! If you land squared up they'll take it all day long. Have a really nasty landing on a BIG send and all bets are off 👀. I'm still amazed they can take the hits that they do 👍. The sheer speed is really my favorite part 😍🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
I have nowhere really to run it but that new Infraction is one of the most killer looking RCs I've ever seen man
Brother I'd have to agree 100% 👀!!! ARRMA absolutely nailed it with the Infraction 😜. Best part is you don't need anywhere special to fully appreciate it's design. 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
I can always count on crazy air time watching your vids!!! You def are the king of "just send it"!!!💪👍👍 AWESOME
Thanks so much Brother 😊!!!! Happy bashing 👍👍😎💪👊👊
Best bench and bash in the business ladies and gentlemen!!!👍👍👍⚡️⚡️⚡️
Thanks so much Matt👊!!!! Happy bashing as always Brother 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
Fantastic upgrades and a Super Bashing video Rich , always entertaining and enjoyable to watch 👍😍👍
Thanks so much Tony 😜!!!! These upgrades make an incredible difference 💪. Really hoping to get this M2C shock setup dialed. Happy bashing as always Brother 🍻. Appreciate the kind words 👍👍😎💪👊👊
OMG what's better then the Arrma Kraton?
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Amazing driving a good work on the bounce Problem. Well done!
Thanks so much Kimberly 😍!!!! Think this is the best comment ever👀. Thank goodness I had Voltage parts to salvage off my V2👍. As great as they are, having 3 Kraton's would be a bit much 🤣🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Great stuff man, these are going to be a great option, I think it will solve a huge issue for many of us. I still feel in awe of your driving and flying skills bro!!! The more I learn the more I'm impressed!!!
Thanks so much Brother 😊!!!! These upgrades make such a difference in durability and performance 👀. This shock setup is looking super promising. Appreciate the kind words my friend 👊🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 thanks mate looking forward to news of a release.
Awesome watching your bashing, never boring. Keep them coming!
I love those super clean landings off the backflips!
Super machine et super pilotage !
Nice landings man
Nice shocks!!!!..I got some "Big Bore Shocks" from ebay..The bodies are nice billet but the pistons were crap..Valving was drilled all funky causing a different feeling out of each shock lol..The seller is sending me a new set though..With 3 valve pistons installed ..$40 so I took a shot..Once the new shocks get here I'll make a video on them
Oh yea brother. Sick bashing out their. Those upgrades are sweet. You definitely need those. Awesome video😀😀👊👊👍👍👍
Thanks so much Kenny 😊!!!! Really excited to get these shocks dialed in 👌. They're almost there now. Just a little more tweaking up front. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
You have the best videos. Wish I had the terrain to bash like you have. Thank you for videos. I make my purchases based on your test reviews.
Thanks so much Eric 😊!!!! That means a lot Brother 👍. Truly appreciate the comment. Happy bashing as always!!!! 👍👍😎💪👊👊
Another wicked video from the super duper bash
Thanks so much Brother 😜!!!! Happy bashing.🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
They take the abuse well Rich. Like what you did on the v3 body mounts.i always learn something from you man.💪🏋💪🏋
Thanks so much Nick👊!!!! The lexan sheeting really helps support the body. Great way to get more life out of beat up bodies too. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Shocks are looking good!! As always, epic bash brother! Keep it up!
Thanks Matthew 😊!!!! Hoping to figure out the perfect piston match soon👍. This could be a really nice change in handling once everything is dialed in. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Awesome video bro some great upgrades rite there definitely beefcake for sure lol gonna try out those shock caps on my V2 Goliath just got the V4 shocks on it so that thing should be ready to rock bummer on the servo man happy bashing my brotha👍🤙😎🤪😜😝🙈🙉🙊👊✌
Thanks so much Chris 😜!!!! I tell ya, every time I go to test something I lose a motor, servo, or have something else totally unforseen happen 🤣🤣👍. I'm dead set on both getting a bash in and figuring out what changes are needed 👊. Just got another piston shipment to experiment with today and have a drill kit if needed to really fine tune the perfect hole size. The rear feels about perfect, just need the fronts dialed 👌. The goal is to keep the stock Arrma 80 weight/1000cst and tweak the piston around that for simplicity. No more center brace on this V4 🤣🤣😎💪👊👊
Excellent info Rich!! Love the Kraton..need to get myself one!! Awesome jumps man!!😳 Happy bashing dude...greetings from 🏴
Thanks Ry😊!!! The Kraton is the perfect platform to go Beefcake with 😍. Plenty of room for bigger electronics and upgrades. Truly is a bashing Beast. 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
SWEET clash of the Kratons vid brother Rich!!😎💪The M2C shock upgrades are looking nice and seem to work well! I agree, the stock shocks do work very well but over time they do get lazy so this is a nice upgrade for sure!👌Some absolute killer footage with both rigs!! Sucks on the servo!! My V4 one is about to take a dump...It's getting pretty slow!😂Thinking of Turning my old Kraton into a Talion Hybrid with a slightly different setup than my V3. Got a M2C chassis on the way for the V4 Kraton and a couple HR goodies! AWESOME vid once again bro!!!😎🤘👍✌✌🍻
Thanks so much brother Eric 😜!!!! So far I'm very impressed with this shock setup 👀. I wasn't expecting much benefit to be honest, but the shocks feel more forgiving and better handling overall 👌. Still plenty of spring off the jumps with less bounce back on the landings. About to take off to try smaller front pistons and better seals 👍. Definitely a work in progress but it's very promising and a simple conversion. Bummer on the servo🤣🤣😝. I'm trying my second PowerHD thanks to yours and others feedback 👍. Looking forward to your new combo build Bro👀. Enjoy your vacation 😊🤘🤘😎💪💪💪👊👊
Always enjoyable to watch you air it out. Awesome watching the evolution of your cars. How you enjoying going from winter straight to summer? Brutal! We farm rice 80 miles north of you and this weather is about killing us!🥵.
Thanks so much Mike 😊!!!! Man it's been a weird weather year once again 😬. Huge props to you for your hard work Brother 👊. Working in the heat is no joke. Love my rice and appreciate everyone with the commitment to farm. Just happy we've had some rain this year. Thanks for what you do Bro. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
a joy to watch as always!
I will be ordering my m2c chassis at the end of the month along with towers braces etc
they are really awesome trucks and I have learned much just watching
thank you :)
Thanks so much Brother 😊!!!! The M2C chassis solves so many problems 😍. That with the other upgrades makes for an extremely durable basher. It's worth it building a Beast. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 amen to that !
I absolutely love my Kraton it's a beast, just keeps on going and going soaking up the hard hits like it's nothing.
It's completely stock atm, the gearing, everything but aluminium chassis braces are in the post... but what a tank!
Money well spent 😁
That's SO AWESOME to hear Dave😜!!!! I still think the Kraton 6s is the best RTR basher hands down for the money 👊. Just hope the STX2 controller disappears in the future 🤣🤣😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 that controller is pants fair play dude. I use a radiolink controller. Was cheap as chips but far better quality than the stx2.
I think you're right about the Kraton 6s being best out the box basher bro. Awesome fun
Great video rich good insight to your highly assembled rigs m2 chassis look great also shock towers and shock set up looks great too. Some good air and speed there.👍🤘 motors look impressive too
Thanks so much Carlo👊!!!! To me it's totally worth setting these rigs up to take abuse 💪. The upgrades have proven their worth repeatedly. I was bummed I couldn't run my 1730kv Kraton to do a better comparison with both the motors and shocks. Both have incredible instant torque 👀. Really hope you like your Hobbystar my friend 😊🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 no worries they look great. And thats what there for to be pushed to there limits without them being pushed improvements cant be gained in all aspects so its great you cover a vast area of the rig. Im sure i will rich should be here soon.👍🤘
Great bashing n info vid bro, im charging batteries now, I finally FINALLY got me an Outcast yesterday it was delivered so im super excited to get it out for a run
Nice bro, wish I could afford more RCs
OMG👀!!!! I'm SO excited for you Stevo 😱. CONGRATS 👏👏😊. I think every Arrma owner needs an Outcast 6s. Such a wild FUN platform. Appreciate the comment Brother 👍. Hope you enjoy your new Beast 😍🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Geezus, it’s no wonder you need to customize, serious hits
LMAO 🤣🤣😜!!!! Yes....you have to come dressed for the occasion. Trust me I've learned the hard way. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
You made that rig fly man. Bash on brother 😎😎
Very nice upgrades you made them very durable
Thanks my friend 😊!!!! It's nice knowing they're equipped to take a beating. Happy bashing. 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 happy bashing big bro your welcome RcFam4Life 🤜🏾🤜🏾👊🏾🤘🏾💯🤙🏾💪🏾✊🏾🔥😎
Good project, playing with shocks. The multi hole pistons give you massive pack and i'm not sure, if this is the right way.
Maybe there is a perfect setup for landing without any bounce on a perfect day (in temperature), but that will be a long way in testing.
The biggest problem with our rc shocks are massive high and low pressure zones around the pistons.
This, without pressurizing the oil, ever will suffer in rebound damping after a total collapse (landing).
I hope you'll find a solution.
Good luck!
Thanks so much Marc👊!!!! Shocks are a complex subject for sure. There's definitely no perfect set up for all tastes and conditions. Temperature has a big impact no question. I'm trying to be as scientific and objective as possible while studying them on the bench and in the field 👀. There's definitely a noticeable difference in friction and stroke smoothness between these O style pistons and the stockers with an empty (lightly oiled) shock body. It's hard to discern exactly what affect the piston notches on Mitch's pistons have on directing pressure towards the O ring🤔. His intent was to slow rebound further by directing some oil with the notches. The actual piston cut tolerances are very precise. We'll see how things go, but I'm enjoying getting oil on my fingers 🤣 and trying to find a solid setup. Regardless of the end result, I'm learning a few things in the process. 👍👍😎💪👊👊
Flying high as per usual. Bash on bro.
What a killer session dear brother ❤, some seeious massive airs, amd torture test the o-rings and caps, the setup looks very good 😎. Somehow i "liked" the v4 more, maybe a strange feeling, how eva, awsm..just AWSOME brother ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks so much Brother 😊!!!! The V4 session with the M2C caps/pistons was more Fun😍. It wasn't nearly as hot and I felt more fired up 😜. Really wanted to run the 1730 motor again the second test😢. Leaving soon. Servo is swapped and batteries charged 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Hey Rich, looks like these hobbystar motors are not waterproof.
Are you removing g them each time you give your rig a bath?
How much moisture can one take before becoming a paperweight?
The shock caps are looking killer man! Smooth and the delrin insert is much much needed!! Now if we can convince Mitch to do the lower shock mount in delrin we will be all set 👌 Thanks for braving the heat for us man! 100 degrees is no joke 😱 Now that I have seen both of the motors back to back the 1730 with the max8 looks to be the better performer. Of course if it overheats none of that matters 🤣 I still recommend the 4082 1600kv with a Max8 it has done so well in my beefcake Kraton 👍
Thanks so much Aaron 😊!!!! I'm super stoked with how this setup is going 👀. Was worried I wouldn't get lift off the jumps, but it hasn't been a problem at all👌. Landings feel softer with less bounce. That would be Killer if Mitch offered Delrin rod ends 😍. I honestly still favor the 1730, but my 1480 has been problem free with regards to ESC pairing and good temps 👍. I keep forgetting about the 4082🤣. Really appreciate and respect your input about it Brother 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
what punch setting do you have? and what are your toughts about that?
I generally run max punch setting on all my ESC's because I want the option for instant full power when needed. Just let my finger do the adjustments as necessary. 😎💪👊👊
Wow - some serious air and nice control. I picked up a 6s Kraton this weekend. Question, what would you say are the best few upgrades for 1/3 the amount of Air that you are getting? Thanks in advance!
Thanks Brother 👊!!!! The essential 5 I swear by are aluminum chassis supports, servo mount, RPM rear skid plate, and either RPM or Tbone front bumper. 😎💪👊👊
Would have liked to see a few more big air to flat ground landings with those emulsion shocks. Would have been cool to see the footage one right after the other like you did with the stock shocks vs those, but you didn't really air the thing out in the second part. Great footage as always! You are one hell of a wheel man!
Thanks Bryan 😊!!!! Just to clarify, this was all footage running the M2C emulsion set up. The first part was prior to swapping my V4 to M2C chassis, bigger motor, towers.... etc. My plan was to do a side by side style bash comparing stock with the M2C but my servo changed that. The other part of testing involves mixed terrain running, cornering, drop testing, along with jumps of course. Not everyone is into doing big sends, but hard flat landings are a good test for sure 👍. My primary initial goal was to see how the pistons held up and gauge whether I'm even going to like this setup. So far I'm definitely digging it 😍. Lots more testing to go. 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 Oh, I see. I thought the first half was the truck without the bad servo and stock shocks and then when you tried running the second truck with the bad servo, you swapped the shocks to the first truck. I appreciate the break down. Now I can just go check out the v4 video to see how it responds to those big jumps.
Yep, does seem less bouncy on the big jumps and a bit more planted in the flat/rough areas. You running a different oil weight too?
@@olds97lss the first part I was running totally stock oils (80 weight/1000cst). The second part I ran 1000cst rear/2000cst front 👀. I did that because the front felt a bit soft the first run and I didn't have anything between 1-2k. The issue is ARRMA uses 1.4mm rear pistons and 1.2mm fronts. My first test pistons were all 1.5mm. Just got another shipment today that should allow me to dial things in nicely 👌. The goal is to tune the piston combo to work perfectly with the stock 1000cst. 👍👍
Quality bash Rich! ☮️😎
Love the way you beat on them kratons! Great video! :)
Thanks so much my friend 🤗!!!! Happy bashing. 👍👍😎💪👊👊
Super killer bash on the both V3 and V4 Kraton Rich. No holding back and no hesitation airing them out. Kraton is such a classic Beast like no other. I definitely see difference between Arrma shocks and M2C shock mods. Anything that makes experience better is a win in my book. Any difference in overall handling between V4 and V3 Kraton bro? Bash on man..
You guys use stainless screws with m2c chassis , im going check out shock mods if they available yet or rich you just testing to improve? The mod i think i asked already lol awsome bash usual here enjoy how its done 💪💪💪💪💪🏋️♀️🏋️♀️
great bash, If there is anyone who can test a shock it would be you..Good stuff
Thanks so much Philip 👊!!!! Was just thinking about you earlier. Just trying to imagine what you might do with the new Limitless 👀. I'm thinking this platform in the right hands would be Incredible 😱!!!! Truly hope ARRMA or Horizon folks get you hooked up with one pronto. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 I hope so , waiting as patiently as I can.
Nice bashing brother love kraton for sure
I can see it coming in 2020...Kraton V5 Duperbash Edition!
Hey rich. Firstly i was curious if you ran any upgraded springs for your shocks or do you just use stock? Secondly im also running the hobbywing max8 with the hobbystar 1480kv 4092.. going to use a 22t gear.. do you think il have problems overheating that setup?
Since ARRMA came out with the updated (V3-V5) shocks, I only run stock springs with the 6s rigs. 22T is what I normally use with my Hobbystar 1480kv 4092 with stock size tires with either 150 or 160A ESC 👍. I usually gear to about 150F for maximum performance and efficiency. Much hotter and I'll gear down or wheel size down. Temps have lots of variables of course.... smooth bearings, good mesh, rig weight, outside temps....etc. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Nice bench video,,like the o ring around piston... bladderless shocks like the HD shocks i found... I was not as impressed as i thought with the V4,,, Feels to me that the plastics have been changed... think they cheaped out...
Thanks so much Brother 👊!!!! I'm really hoping this shock setup works out. So far I'm digging them👀. Just trying some different piston sizes to pair better with the stock 80 weight. Trying to keep it simple for people. I've had decent luck with my V4 thus far, but you nailed it with the center brace being too rigid 👍. The M2C chassis is the best solution I'm aware of. It flexes slightly, but doesn't bend. The difference is night and day 💪. No bent center driveline of jacked diffs. It's like building a good house. Starts with a quality foundation.🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 still haven't broke down and spent the money... i really haven't had any problem with stock chassis yet... as long as i have front and rear chassis braces in... i don't send it that high so it holds up.. They look strong as f*** though...lol💪💪👊🤙
Hi Rich, Ive had a slash 2D, a Bison V2 & currently have a DHK Hobby to bash. It looks like I can stretch to a new Kraton V3 6s or the new Kraton V4 4s. In your honest opinion, which would you get for starters? Thanks in advance.
I would honestly grab a V3 with Tactic controller if you can save some $$$. Do some basic upgrades and have at it 👍. If you start bashing harder or having chassis bendage, invest in an M2C Goliath Series chassis. Worth every penny. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Nice video on the Kraton so do you believe the the tower to tower brace isn't really needed as I have seen another video where the operator thinks it caused his rear diff to brake away from the chassis?.
The tower brace is definitely not needed with the M2C 7075 chassis 💪. With the stock V4 setup, I'm thinking the brace would be more effective if it had some give like the new 4s design. All my homemade tower braces had some give built into them and worked quite well overall. It's certainly true that a bolted/rigid tower brace can transfer energy and cause lateral damages during really bad nose or tail impacts 👀👍👍😎💪👊👊
Was wondering if you could help me out. I bought the v4 Kraton and Notorious. Love them so much, selling all my Traxxas. Id like to get a typhon, talion and another kraton and outcast to build. Cant afford to buy all 4 new. What do you avoid when buying non v4 models? Any tips? Figured you're the guy to know lol. Would be a good video idea for someone to do. Explain it all. Thanks
U might want to try the ECOPOWER 120T servo. It's a great value at 60 buks, and you will like it way better than that HD.
Hey Rich what bumper set up are you running it looks like the T-Bone but without hinge pin block?
Yes I’ve just bitten the bullet and got me a v4, and beefing it up strait away!
Hey Brother 👊!!!! I'm running Tbone Basher Typhon 6s bumpers on all my 6s rigs. Just need the mini Arrma bumper to hold in the hinge pins. Comes with the Composite ball cup goodie bag 😎💪👊👊
Cheers rich just waiting on my m2c chassis💪 bumper has shown up.
Legend for the reply brother. Keep up the awesome bashing sessions!
Great sesh👍👍
Great jumps awesome tips
Hey rich, love your videos, love your info. I noticed you have the hobbystar motors in your kraton’s with the max8. I also have a max8 in my typhon paired with the stock 2050 motor, and for some reason my motor tends to get really hot! I also have a v4 kraton that has a max6 with 1650kv motor. I guess my question would be, how do you keep the temps down with your motor setups? Do you think it would be alright to bolt up a 1650kv motor on my max8 typhon? Thanks for your time! Keep up the good vids, thank you for sharing all your wealth of info!
So sorry I missed your question Brother 😝. I generally control motor temps through gearing or wheel size. Assuming the bearings are all healthy and connections and solder joints solid, I gear down or wheel size down if temps go much past 150-160 tops. 150 is my target temp for maximum performance and efficiency. Beyond that performance suffers. 1650kv should pair great with most any 150A ESC, but runs a bit stronger with the Max6. Hope you got it sorted Brother 🍻. Appreciate the kind words!!!! 🍻🤙🤙😎💪👊👊
Awesome video !
Question for ya... How fast is the 6S Kraton if you were run it on just one 3S battery? Or can you even do that? Is it still pretty fast, but just not stupid fast? I see value in running it this way if I hand the controller over to my 12 and 13-year-old boys. I do understand that the new remote has a feature that allows you to toggle between 50%, 75%, and 100%. However I feel like those variables Would be valuable even on a 3S battery to slow it down even more. The question is can you even run it on one 3S battery? Lastly if you can… Could you set it up to run twice as long if you run the connections utilizing a parallel adapter. In essence, my two 5400mah 3S Batteries would last 10,800mah of time. Have you ever ran your 6s Kraton or any of your RC cars utilizing a parallel adapter to double the time running, with lower cell count? Thx!!
I've never ran a parallel adapter to say🤔. I personally prefer shorter run cycles to simply swap packs and look my rig over while it cools a bit. You can run 3, 4, and 6s with the BLX185 ESC no problem. 3s has decent speed and power especially for kids. I'm not using the STX2 controller. Simply don't like the grip or cheap oversized plastic wheel or spring tension. Just swapped in the old Tactic TTX300. 🍻😎💪👊👊
My next question, has to do with the spectrum remote. It seems there’s quite a bit of delay especially when trying to go in reverse. Also if I set the power down to its lowest setting 50% On the remote. And I don’t have a throttle dial turned all the way up. It doesn’t even recognize reverse. Not sure if that’s normal. From what I understand you switched back to the tactic. If I buy a better remote am I going to see in improvement in at least lag time (especially with reverse) if I just simply get a better remote? Or is that delay when you’re at a stop and trying to initiate reverse a typical annoyance everyone experiences in RC?
Love the channel man! Would u recommend ditching the tower to tower brace with the stock chassis and aluminum chassis braces?
Thanks so much Brother 🤗!!!! That's tough to answer, but I feel the stock tower brace would work better if it had a bit more give to it. Perhaps if it had the rubber insert like the 4s brace. For brutal impacts, the stock 6s top brace can lead to reverse bends towards the rear of the chassis vs upward bowing. Best solution is honestly the Goliath Series chassis with aluminum chassis supports and no tower brace. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Cool I’ll look into that chassis. Appreciate it!
Great video Rich! Can you tell me if a particular Arrma might be less likely to have chassis flex/twist or are they all susceptible to hard bashing, especially when the drivers last name is Duperbash? lol. I've had many bad wrecks with my 4s Outcast 4x4 with only a-arm breakages but I'm not as merciless as you because I'm not as skilled as you. (understatement lol) Thanks Rich!
Thanks so much Brother 👊!!!! The shorter Typhon and Outcast are less likely to have chassis bendage by virtue of less leverage between bulkheads. The 4s models are fairly brilliant as is honestly. I've personally bent all the 6s models despite aluminum chassis supports and running tower braces. The 3mm stamped aluminum chassis has limitations for sure. It's fine until you start playing rough or have a really bad hit 👀. The M2C 4mm 7075 chassis upgrade option is a true game changer 👌. 100% solution for obvious and subtle problems that arise from excessive chassis flex and bendage. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Can't thank you enough for your helpful reply's.
Hey buddy I'm having issues with my V4 kraton on the front diff that little nipple that hangs out that goes into the circle on that red piece behind your front bumper it always breaks off on me and then doesn't let my shocks stay tight anymore and they kind of go up and down. Have you ever had that happen to you when doing bigger jumps. Cuz I'm not sending it as far as you are I have sent it about 70 ft quite a few times and that's when itnormally pops off. I ended up getting the aluminum hot racing front diff bulkhead to try and prevent that from happening so I was wondering if I'm doing something wrong and that's why it's popping off. You can shoot me a message and shed some light on that for me that be great.
I got it figured out buddy...I didnt have the 2 screws in the bulkhead that connect the red metal hingepin mount to the bulkhead.
Do you put those plastic shims back on. A arm hinge pins when your building armas i ordered infraction i noiticed they really packed in there so be no play wondering if you use plastic washers so dont jokey out on hard landings
I've used both plastic washers and the stock plastic C clips. I've never had a problem with my clips bouncing off with landings. Just lose them sometimes when pulling my rigs apart🤣🤣😎💪👊👊
I was thinking of getting the new ARRMA 6S Outcast 2019 that came out recently. What would you think of that?
I think it's absolutely BADASS 👀!!!! The Outcast has long been one of my favorite rigs since it's release 😍. It's far more challenging than the Kraton, but truly more wild Mad FUN too. If you want one, I say go for it!!!! 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Rich Duperbash thanks mate. This is going to be a massive purchase for me. Was thinking of going for a Xmaxx but thought it was a bit expensive to buy everything for me
Just waiting for Rich to monsterfy an Infraction 😏😏
Good God 🙏 I hope to get one 😱. Rarely do I get RC lust (except with the new Typhons) but the Infraction has my full attention👀. I would absolutely LOVE to street bash her into a dirty place 🤣🤣. Definitely think she has Mad potential. The design is so built for speed....wicked with style. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Have you spelt it wrong.... ain't it SUPERBASH!! Wicked run rich 👍👍👍
Thanks so much Wayne 😊!!!! Much appreciated my friend.🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Great vid👌as usual💪
Hi Rich, is the max8 esc better than stock? Is it smoother power?
The stock ESC isn't bad, but yes the Max8 feels smoother with better power feed. 😎💪👊👊
Double Beef cake bashing 😵 Love it. There was some massive launches 🚀 in there Rich☝🏼You stuck that landing at the end beautifully. Looks like your loving the R and D atm 😁 Good work Bro keep it up 👍🏻🤙🏼👏🏼😁✊🏻🤘🏻
Dude I surprised I haven’t seen you with the infraction. Thought they would have sent u one to rip out the front of your place ?? It looks so Sweet bro 😋 What’s your thoughts 💭 ??
Thanks so much Cam😜!!!! It was inevitable I'd borrow parts from my V2 to beef out my V4 💪. So happy to get the Hobbystar 1730 back in service. Testing is fun for sure. Just takes lots of patience and careful objective examination👀. I'd LOVE to get my hands on an Infraction 😍. Could totally see doing some Crazy street bashing with that rocket 😱!!!! I honestly think the design and innovation is Brilliant. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Nice footage.. and u got some sweet skills man.. dont know if this post is too old, but im thinking of getting talion exb. Ive got a kraton v4 running stock only changed the radio and vented the tyres. Question is.. should I get the beefcake m2c kit or the new talion? Cheers from Denmark..
Thanks Thomas 🤗. I've always loved both the Kraton and Talion. They handle quite a bit differently. The Talion EXB chassis and towers aren't as strong as M2C 7075 T6, but they're stronger than the stamped aluminum that comes with the RTR models no question. I can't really answer which direction you should go with the Talion vs getting the beefcake kit. I'd probably want both trucks myself and upgrade as you go or see fit for your needs. 🍻
@@richduperbash2966 .. thx for the reply Rich. I know there's no straight answer. Ill probably start with and upgrade on the kraton. Jims bearings, servo and motor mount, hubs.. getting to know the car its been a while since l last had an rc.. 25 years maby. Still makes me smile.. stay safe brother and Bash On..
@@thomasholdtchristensen9566 sounds like a great plan my friend 🤗. I also had a similar 20+ year break from the hobby. Brushless power got me hooked for good. Getting to know your rig well truly pays off. You'll enjoy it that much more 😉
Rich awesome videos as always. For your builds do you prefer sensored or sensorless? From my understanding is sensored just gives better smoother response at the low end of speed compared to sensorless. But most sensored systems end up turning to sensorless at the higher speeds to get the benefits of the sensorless system. I never driven or handled a sensored system so was just wondering what your thoughts were and what you liked and why over the other as I try to figure out a build setup for electronics.
Thanks Donnie 🤗. I have limited experience using sensored. It's very smooth at lower speeds, but I don't drive slowly for very long and the guys I raced buggy on the track with didn't seem to have an advantage. I don't feel bashers benefit much from sensored setups. 😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 Rich thanks for the feedback, that is good to know. I am kind of like you and my daughter thinks so the same "Oh my Dad is going crazy and going way to fast", is there really any speed other than Full Throttle? :-P So in theory if you get one cool but not really something that necessary and more $. What are your thoughts on the Spektrum electronics (ESC and Motors) and how they compare to Castle, Hobbywing, etc? I am still trying to find out where products stand in the hierarchy of Tier 1 (best ultimate) to Tier 4 (dumpster fire worse) out there and also never sure on how the stuff that comes from the manufactures are compare.
@@DonnieKluck the Spectrum electronics are highly efficient and reliable overall. Definitely not bad. That's why guys are able to pull them from RTR's and get a decent price if they choose to go with a different power plant. There's a wide degree of opinion regarding which brand is better. I like Hobbywing (they likely make the Spectrum ESC's and get rebranded). Castle has some nice stuff, but I view it as overpriced. Their power switches are super old-school, but they allow data logging with their Castle link which can provide very useful info as well. Most guys have to try different brands and set-ups to reach their own conclusions in the end. Bottom line, you can build a very fun, high performance rig with about any of them. 👍
@@richduperbash2966 Thanks for the information I do appreciate it, the landscape has changed a whole lot in the 15 years I was gone from RC. So I really do appreciate you helping me out and taking time to answer my questions and comments no matter how off the wall they maybe or newbish, thank you fine sir. That is a good on the Castle part which I could totally see. This whole COVID time has changed and screwed up pricing every where for everything so if you did not have a good reference point prior to the pandemic hard to tell what is a good price/value for what you are getting. Glad to hear that the can build something good either way with any of them.
@@richduperbash2966 Rich how are you doing buddy? Well I kind of got my self in a pickle with my Castle Creations Mamba Monster X 8S ESC and 1717 (1650kv) motor as I was trying to change out the pinion gear from 18T to 20T, and trying to adjust the 20T or change it out but in the process snapped the hex driver off in the grub screw. I tried to drill it out but that did not work so instead I am sending the motor to Castle to hopefully fix under non warranty work. But in the mean time would you have any recommendations for another motor that I could and should run with the CC MM X 8S ESC? I did not know if I would have any issues running something else with the Castle ESC or what you think would be the best motor to run. Figured it would eventually would be a spare I would have once I get the Castle one back. Any guidance or help always greatly appreciated buddy.
Liking those copper head 2.0 by the looks of it bud.
No doubt Nate 😊!!!! I'm not tossing my Backflips out, but damn these Copperheads are great all around bashers 👀👍👍😎💪👊👊
Yeah I just tossed my badlands for a new set of backflips for my V3 KRATON .. LHS had a good deal on them and haven’t been able to get the new copperheads.
Another awesome video Rich. I gotta find some spots like that. I’m out in the Sac area also. Any recommendations?
Thanks so much William 👊!!!! This is Township 9 bike park. 7st and Richards BLVD. See you there sometime🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Rich Duperbash awesome. Thanks for the info. I’ll be out their soon.
That spots legit Rich. Thanks again. Me and the kids had a awesome time. Broke all of our rigs but it was worth it.
What servo do you run/ recommend for the 6s Arrma kraton / talion
I use to run Savox 1210, but switched to Power HD 23kg WP awhile ago 👍. Great value with good specs and impressive durability. 🍻😎💪👊👊
In the stock setup would 60 weight be good,not much bashing?
The stock setup is 80 weight. You might like going 60 weight 🤔. Just expect a little more initial front to back weight transfer on throttle/braking. You'll lose some dampening, but might like the change in handling. 😎💪👊👊
Hi, do you recommend a basher of the kraton or Xmaxx
I think both are extremely capable as basher's. The Kraton would be my first pick for it's agility and wonderful aftermarket support. The XMaxx is definitely a Beast and can tackle seriously rough terrain like few others. It's BIG and heavy though. Really a totally different experience than a monster speed truggy like the Kraton. Boils down to personal preference 🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
If you move rage top shock position in one or out one what, what do you gain\lose?
Changing your shock angles makes a significant difference in dampening, stability, traction, and responsiveness. The more angled inward, the more initial dampening and overall responsiveness. The more upright angled, the less initial dampening you have, but generally have better lateral traction cornering and greater stability over terrain. Upright is more forgiving. Here's a link that has good shock setup info. 🍻😎💪👊👊www.myrcbox.com/articles/tech-article-off-road-suspension-tuning-guide/
Hey Rich, why do you not like the Arrma stock 2050kv motors? Or.. why do you swap them out on all your trucks? Is it that much of a difference? Just asking bro cuz I’m going n the middle of a rebuild now, Talion /Kraton. Love the informative vids bro with big bash attached to them! 🏎🧰🚀👍🏻
Hey Brother 👊. I have no problem with the stock system 👍. I'm still running it in my Talion and Outcast. These 4092 motors just have gobs more grunt and torque 👀. They work Killer for clearing gap jumps with minimal run up space. Aside from that, I just like switching things up for variety 😋. The only issue I have with the stock ESC is the silly on/off switch. It's prone to failure. I really prefer the large button style with separate set button like with the Hobbywing. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Nice bro! Ya I wasn’t thinking about the short run for ramping off a jump, makes total sense! I don’t like the esc either really but so far so good. The controller is a whole other story, very glitchy. Any how thanks for the reply man, ya I was just curious on that. 🏎🧰🚀👍🏻👍🏻
@@bwoodard907 you bet Bro 👊. I'm over trying to adjust to the STX2 controller. It's really a disappointment for such fine 6s rigs😝. Think Horizon has gotten the message by now. 👍
I would imagine so.. 😂
Awesome videos...⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
You delete the red center brace on the V4 Rich why ?
You don't need a center brace with the M2C chassis 💪. My brace was very bowed after my last run with the stock chassis. The V4 would be better off with a 4s style brace that has some give. 👀😎💪👊👊
Hey Rich! Awesome videos! What shock weight oil are u using?
Thanks so much Ed👊!!! I was running stock oils (1000cst) the first part and 1000cst rear/2000cst front the second part. Our goal is to size the pistons to work perfectly with the stock oils 👌. As of today, I have smaller sizes to get it tuned just right 👍👍😎💪👊👊
Thank you Rich! I think I’m about an hr away from one of your bashing spots, would love to come join u one of these days. We have a Notorious with mostly Voltage upgrades and some GKA :)
Do you have a link where i can get this motor? Thanks in advance 💪🏼
www.rcjuice.com/hobbystar-4092-4-pole-brushless-sensorless-motor-1-8-truggy-monster-truck.html
Rich Duperbash what would be the better kv?
If I jump my trucks like you I'd be done after two jumps my truck would be destroyed how do you do that That's pretty cool man keep it up
Thanks Anthony 👊!!!! These trucks will take tremendous hits when upgraded right 👀. Best to still land wheels down though. 🍻😎💪👊👊
What's the gearing you're running in that 1480kv I have one just like yours
I wanna know the same but i am running a 20 pinion in a stock hobao sse truggy with that 1480kv motor and its pretty good
Sorry Brother. Just saw this 👀. I usually run a 22T Robinson Racing Extra Hard #1222 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 cool cool that's what I'm running except tekno
Hammer 💪😀👍Rich mega genial
Best MR jumping 🌹🌹🌹👏👏👏
Sweet Bash Rich, Some Monster Sends 😮😮😮😮🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
The Kraton is a BEAST 😈😈😈😈😈😈
Bummer on the servo bro 😬😬😬😬😬
If you wallet permits, maybe give a hitec a crack bro, they can take some serious punishment 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃😮
Glad to see you out in some nice weather 😎🤘👌
it's cold and windy over my way at the moment 🙄🙄🙄😅😅😅
Thanks so much Matt 😜!!!! It was only a matter of time before the V4 got the "beefcake" injection 🤣🤣😱😋😋. I harvested almost all the Voltage off my old Outcast 👌. Swapped bulkheads/diffs, shafts, and links. Kinda the slow way to build, but the only way 👊. The servo was a dang bummer 😝😝😝😝💩. To be fair, that Savox lived a long hard life. Appreciate the Hitech suggestion Brother 👍. I have a 40$ HDPower wp 23kg going in. Same specs as my 1210sg just a lot cheaper. Been running one in my Talion for months. Hope your weather improves Bro 👊. It's about to get super toasty here 👀🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Not sure how to go about this, I have a friend whom is dealing with cancer and may not be around for his family in the next 5 years. He has 2 young guys 10 &16 and when I'm over their the kids are gaming most times. I propose an idea of trying to bring this fam to spend time with eachother thru RC. So I would be asking you/the rc community to collect organize then donate monies to purchase the younger one an rc of some sort. This is asking alot and not knowing if the kid will even take to Rc hobbies it's a shot in the dark. The kid does make UA-cam vids under the name Christian Woosley. This is just an idea at the moment to try and maybe do something nice. As for myself I would not be able to logistically put this together myself, and also would be a conflict of interest as this is my best friend. This is just a thought I had.
I thought u was gonna wheelie on ur front wheels there for a minute lol.
LMAO 🤣🤣. I was trying Brother 👀🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
Where can i find those shocks for my v4 oh and some of your skill
These M2C Racing bladderless caps and pistons should become available on the M2C website after testing. Finalizing the best piston size combination back to front. Not sure exactly, but things are looking pretty good. 🍻😎💪👊👊
these jumps are nasty
Yes they are 🤣🤣👍. Good way to find weak spots and limitations in design and durability 👀. The upgrades make it possible to dish out regular beatings and just keep going. 🍻🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 i do the same thing but im a x maxx lover got the kraton but ended up breaking both diff and sold it love the channel btw
@@Adampage69 thanks Adam 👍. The XMaxx is a BEAST no doubt. Bummer about your Kraton 😝. Gear issues are frustrating for sure. 🤘🤘
Those kratons are looking tough rich , these are complet shocks or we will use oem body
Thanks Bro👊!!!! These are just M2C caps and custom pistons 👍. They're a direct fit on the OEM shocks. The goal is improved performance with a "zero rebound" emulsion style set up. This is only achievable by removing the bladder style stock caps. 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 nice thanks rich
I'm waiting for you to off-road arrma infraction 😆😋
Me too actually 🤣🤣🤘🤘!!!! Hoping to have one this week 👀. It's definitely built for speed. I'm thinking some calculated bashing is in the cards🤔👍👍😎💪👊👊
Please compare the motor speed with gps 😊
I know u saw the two new arrmas the infraction and limitless
Props to Arrma lol
It's true Brother 👊!!! I'm grateful for all the stress relieving FUN these ARRMA's provide 🤪🤘🤘😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 same here. I get a rush from sending the v4 Kraton and Notorious off unpredictable 40-50' jumps! Front flips, back flips, floaters, and land most. lol. The huge difference is they hold up to way more than Id think. About 75 runs each, had 1 front axle break so far. Unreal. Maintenance is easier on these too. Im selling all other brands now, all in on ARRMA!
@@VegasRC you summed it up Perfectly Brother 👊!!!!
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