@@growtocycle6992 Absolutely, if Jesus had a PowerPoint, a timer, and an audience that wasn't so into crucifixion, he'd be a total hit on the TED stage
@@growtocycle6992 Yes it's totally not disingenuous to compare some pastor to Jesus Christ. And no, Jesus called people to repentance and told them shit they didn't wanna hear. You'll never hear that from a nondenom service. They don't even understand the concept of sin properly since they think they're already saved and it's a done deal lol.
This is such a cool channel! Catholic chica here. Very cool that you are visiting different kinds of churches and looking to soak in Scripture/literature in the future. Excited to see where your journey takes you. You have a radiant heart and an openness that is so refreshing. Thanks for sharing your heart with us.
Something to be aware of with non-denominational churches is that, while they claim to be non-denominational, they often do have ties to specific denominations. In the words of the comedian Tim Hawkins, "Non-denominational, you're not fooling anybody, you're just a Baptist church with a cool website." From my own experience, most non-denominational churches are either Baptist or Pentecostal. You usually have to look hard at their statement of faith to get an idea what they're actually a part of. My theory is that using the label of non-denominational is just a successful marketing ploy, because people are more likely to enter a church if they don't associate it with preconceived notions about the actual denomination and misinterpret the non-denominational as meaning it's a theologically neutral environment.
That's exactly it. Most "nondenominational" are actual Baptist or "Bible first" churches. Their goal is to evangelize therefore they want to remain as neutral as possible to attract as many newcomers as they can.
I don’t think that anyone who is truly serious could ever really consider themselves to be theologically neutral. You either got some beliefs that were thought of before by Christians of the past, or you’ve got some new novel idea, but whatever notion you subscribe to, it’s going to necessarily mean that you don’t subscribe to any other, which I don’t consider to be a bad thing by the way, as I said, that’s the only way to be a serious Cristian. What’s the point of going through all the effort if you just say everyone is right? I know there are some people who say that and still do go through the effort, but it would seem to me that there would be no need for those kinds of churches to exist if they really believed what they said. For the record, i’m Catholic.
I am Orthodox and have noticed a lot of younger people checking out both Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism. They are tired of the rock band and shallow theology of the non-denominatiomal denominations. People are seeking something eternal.
@@greatscott7691 s lot of people will be decieve for me not reading the Bible themselves and accepting what a preacher says at face value! We need to hear what the spirit says to the churches not necessarily what pastors are saying! Some are false! Many will come saying I'm Christ and decieve many
This is great. About 6 months ago I started the same thing you are doing now. I didnt document it but I went out into the world of theology to rediscover my faith and find god. Im glad for this journey and have found my place. I wish you all the best in your journey and search. May God bless you 😊
I’ll chime in as a Catholic convert (grew up Lutheran and toyed with Non-Denom’s before marrying a good Catholic girl and converting) I have found myself more wrapped up in the true presence of Christ in the Catholic tradition than I ever was with “Non-Denominational” or even Lutheran, even though the liturgy is nearly identical between the too (style of mass or service). So many Non-Denoms are wrapped in scandal or other sketchy immoral practices, even more so than many accuse the Catholic Church of. They invite you in with this clean veneer, but once you’re in the fold the curtain falls and you see what’s really there, and more frightening without any real ramifications having no hierarchical structure. Some groups are better than others, as I believe that Christ can belong to any church of true believers and followers, but what the one church has to offer is so much greater than yourself, which is where the church of “me” fails so tremendously.
One must ask. Does God put on a "show" with screens, neat productions and free items or does God prefer sacred tradition? God was born into poverty, among the animals, is he looking to put on a really cool tech savvy production or will he attempt to connect to you through his own creation? I'll be praying for you while you continue your journey. God is amazing and he has something planned for each of us. We just need to use our free will wisely and listen to him. God bless! I enjoy your videos and hope you continue your search for our Lord. He is tapping you on the shoulder, waiting to shower you with Graces.
To be fair, Jesus was not born into poverty. Joseph was a carpenter, which means he had a skilled trade, which Jesus Himself took up. Jesus was also highly educated, being able to read and write. He did, however, eschew material wealth.
@mournblade1066 he was born into poverty, in a manger with animals. They were hiding. God is God so I'm sure he needed no education, he didn't go to MIT, he created MIT.
I just discovered your channel. These videos are really excellent. They come across as dispassionate and objective. I’ve never been to a mega church so have enjoyed you describing it through the eyes of someone new.
Perhaps not, but Jesus was relevant in his interactions with those around him during his time on earth. That relevance and ability to connect with others, is what kickstarted this huge thing now known as Christianity. So - in an era of dwindling church attendance, it's the mega churches drawing people in.
@@BirchWind No, he was not relevant at all. He healed, and this is because we all need healing and the Church is a hospital. It’s notable that Jesus never set up banquets or put on plays and performances to attract people, which would be the equivalent of what modern mega churches are doing but in the first century. The Church is a hospital for the broken (which is all of us). That’s different than trying so desperately to catch people’s eyes using pop culture stuff.
@@BirchWind Also, it is becoming false that megachurches are drawing people in now. Young adults (I’m twenty-four) want tradition. I go to an Eastern Orthodox Church. So literally the most traditional form of Christianity out there. Every week, we get many new visitors, many of them flocking from megachurches, and the overwhelming majority of them being young adults my age. Traditional Christianity is growing incredibly quickly right now - as megachurch attendance is declining.
@@McGheeBentle Amen. I'm a recent convert to Catholocism after a lifetime in Mormonism and our Masses are PACKED and it's not even remotely close to majority boomers. I'm glad both our faiths are growing and I hope the blatantly false and insincere nonsense that is 'nondenominational church' disappears forever.
@@itbelikethattho41 I thought the same thing. Through this, the pastor is basically saying “just believe me”. The congregation has to act under the assumption that he is correct and honest, pulling from the actual doctrine, etc. It can lead to corruption/incorrect teachings
I was hoping to hear the same question you had with your visit to the Catholic Church: “did you find a more or less spiritual connection?” Does being entertained (“enjoying the show”) equate to being spiritually fulfilled?
As a nonbeliever, I am not sure I can provide an answer to this question. From my outsider perspective, I found the Mass to be more spiritually connected. Some people may find that more within a worship setting with a live band. To each their own. Everyone is free to practice as they see fit (as long as no one is harmed).
@@SimplySkeptical22 From a Catholic perspective the sacrifice of the mass (a representation of the original sacrifice of Jesus) on the altar is the worship. No sacrifice, no worship. You can see this in the Last Supper and what Saint Paul says in 1 Corinthians 10. From a Catholic (as well as Orthodox) perspective we don't see what happens at an evangelical church as worship because there is no sacrifice. Hope that helps.
God is judgmental toward the wicked as far as divine judgment or wrath goes! Discernment is another type of judgment! Discerning between good and evil,,! Believers are to have their senses trained to discern between good and evil!! Right and wrong!! However in John 5 24 Jesus said whoever believes won't come into condemnation or judgment!! As far as a believers godly services they will be evaluated for rewards not forgiveness
I like this idea of visiting different churches, cause there is so many, ive been trying to find my church home ever since i came to Christ, and as John 3:30 states, its more about Him, than us. Choosing truth over comfort, cause in truth we will be fufilled. I subscribed and looking forward to more videos! Kind regards
I'm not a stranger to the non-denominational thing. I even joined a Messianic Church led by a self proclaimed Jewish Rabbi. I then investigated Judaism. Ultimately my investigation of Church history and reading the ante-Nicene Fathers convinced me Protestantism is out of continuity with the Ancient Church. I was convinced I had to investigate the claims of Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox and the Coptic Church. It took me 2 or 3 years to make a decision.
I’ve watched your videos backwards lol. I would love to hear an experience at a conservative Presbyterian or reformed Baptist church, arts hearing your experiences at these three different churches. I’m reformed Baptist, and have really appreciated your input ❤️
Hey just discovered you and subscribed, im excited to see all the others diferent denominations to come, i thought of doing something like this, however i already have a strong BIAS being borned and raised in a "Baptisp" type of church and already having explored Jehova;s Witness, Catolic, Pentecostal, services when i was a teen. Anyway its really nice to hear everything a person can capture going into a church,
interesting about raising money, in which, it's the optimisation and utility efficiency of using one's convincing power to persuade people to give out money in their pockets to certain directions and people, sort of a redirection of capital via skillful talking
"Following" being more important that "Belief" sounds a lot to me like "just be a good person," which according to Christ, no one is good but God, so a rather impossible task. The thief on the cross joined Christ in heaven because of his belief, not because he was a "good" person. Now, that doesn't mean do whatever you want, because as a true Believer in Christ, you would want to live like Him to the best of your ability, though we will always fall short of perfection.
I have in my time visited different Churches and religions, I have gone to a couple of ND churches, what I saw at them was pretty much what you described. I knew a Pastor of one and he kept inviting me to visit, so I did once. Definitely much different from a Catholic Church, I don't think I ever went to a Church that didn't ask for money.
You feed the hungry, you care for the sick and house the homeless, as is taught in Matthew 25:31-46. According to this passage, people that do good works, but never heard the name of Jesus, will still inherit the Kingdom of God
To be like Jesus you can also call gentile women dogs, you can say you will bring more suffering then in Noah's day, you can say that people must hate their families in order to follow you, you can say that those who will follow you will gain 100 fold
@multiversogeek142 taken in context he said in that you did it to the least of these my brethren, he's talking to people who did the Jews during their persecution from the coming antichrist! Also their allowed to enter the kingdom not the heavenly city.these who are allowed to enter the earthly kingdom or remain on earth after Armageddon will repopulate earth for 1000 years before a final rebellion rev 20
@@John_Six in my experience this tends to be the case. I find very little difference between a nondenominational Sunday service vs that of a Baptist when it comes to doctrine
Hi! I understand what you say, but honest question: why would someone go to church (any church) if they don't believe? Just one more thing, church, in my opinion, is about reference for Jesus, who died for the sins of the world. Choosing a church based on how cool the church looks or something else on those lines should come last (or nshould not even be taken in consideration). By the way (and so you can better understand my point), i am Catholic (and portuguese, so if my english is not the best i'm sorry) 😊
I appreciate your questions! If you check out my Intro video, I do address some of this. As a nonbeliever or a skeptic I think it is still important to expose myself to different religious ideas. If you are a believer and think that nonbelievers have no place in the church, then you are closing the door in their face for the chance for potential conversion. Many evangelicals believe that the nonbelievers are the most important people to reach. Also, I completely agree with you that a church should not be judged based on its aesthetics, and rather the religious sermon itself is the most important. Where I live in the Bible Belt of America, there are many “fun” and “exciting” churches that focus more on the performance rather than doctrine. You and I share that opinion, along with many others.
@@SimplySkeptical22 First of all, thank you so much for answering my questions. It is very kind of you. I probably didn't explain myself correctly in the first question. I thing it is very good that nonbelievers go to church and see for themselves what every church believes. I was actually refering to what the pastor said in the sermon 😊 I'm very interested in your journey and i've already subscribed your channel to follow this journey of yours.
I like how you called out the pastor for contradicting what the Bible literally says about God. No hate to non-denominational people, but as a Catholic who has visited as many churches as I can, I have experienced multiple services where the pastor will say something that contradicts everything I was taught growing up even at the non-denom churches (grew up going to both Catholic and non-denom church thanks to my parents with different views)
Mega churches can afford to have all of these things because of the very large amounts of money they bring in. The more money they bring in, the more bells and whistles they can provide. It's like a big motivational seminar with religion as it's background music. I've seen some great small Anglican and Catholic churches fade away as the big evangelical mega-church types have moved in. The mega churches starting at a small location, but having music, handing out food at parks, putting on community events during the holidays and then they become huge and rich. Great advertising and marketing plans. I'll still always prefer an Orthodox, Catholic or even Anglican church if wanting to be in a Christian based faith group. I suggest checking out a Reform Judaism synaogue, or Orthodox. You'll see yet again a fully different way of celebrating God. (this time without Jesus as a mediary). So many different ways to God.
As a Roman Catholic, I approve this message. The Orthodox Churches (both the buildings and the faith itself) are beautiful. I wish we could reunited sometime during my lifetime.
Here's a good presentation that might be useful for you in terms of understanding worship vs Bible study. Not trying to imply that Protestants don't intend to worship by attending these performances but that's all they are.... human centered activity that says the right words but never really gives God proper attention. These events mirror the world and all the distractions. God doesn't compete with the distractions and you will only hear Him in silence and whispers according to Scripture itself.... ua-cam.com/video/lg4S1VYac-Y/v-deo.htmlsi=HkVusqc4ih10o4oo
There is no rules in the Bible how church needs to be. I was raised in an old fashioned traditional church and that is my preference. It is not the law though. It's possible for these big churches to be okay. We shouldn't judge them without cause. Only if they are teaching things that they ought not teach.
Wrong as there are rules in the Catholic church made Bible in how church needs to be .( and in early christian writings & archeology ) ...as the Catholic followers of Jesus & the Catholic writers of the 4 gospels & the scriptures do say how a church is to be & run & it's beliefs & practices & aspects. Also talks in the book of the Apocalypse on how the church is in heaven...... It's ALL catholic....in its rituals & devotions & doctrines & traditions ect.... I mean Christ did not come to abolish the ( true ) law but to perfect it ( into catholiscism) . Why his catholic church still has the Holy Priesthood/ the Holy Altar/ the Holy Tabernacle/ the Holy Divine ( physical ) presence/ the Holy Offering ( of the Mass ) / the Holy temple ( church ) just like in the O.T. Oh my bad I forgot you protestant heretics have none of the above.
@@patof72clune51 Sorry but you need to calm down. Get over yourself. This video is about, I believe she said she is an unbeliever and a skeptic..? And she is talking about her experience attending a mega church. You have leaped in to making baseless personal attacks against me. My comment is accurate. Catholic tradition is optional. It is not dictated anywhere in the Bible. Whatever you think you know about me is wrong. MY comment is true. As long as a church is holding to the trustworthy word and not teaching anything they should not teach. To be vague enough for a youtube comment troll. I am not endorsing the church she speaks of. My comment was church in general. You don't own it.
There is actually no such thing as non-denominational church. Such a church is actually another denomination even though they hope they ain't called that.
I’ve seen a lot of new churches hiding under the guise of “nondenominational” but if you actually look in the fine print it will usually say, like the one by my house was a baptist church until a few years ago when it was changed to nondenominational as a way to appeal younger people
Honey the faith cannot be reviewed like food, restaurants etc. Are you joking? Do you really think that there is any dependance between size of the church, church decoration and the faith? If yes there is something wrong with you.
To start, I have to confess that it's pretty disingenuous when a church gets rid of their denominational name to call themselves non-denominational. It goes along with what you're saying, they care more about some sort of walk/relationship with Christ than about theology. The problem with not going into theology (the study of God) is that you can't know His will, and thus, cannot walk in obedience to Him. I can understand why you call yourself a skeptic, as the vast majority of churches are bent on pleasing people to get money to keep the doors open. I love it when churches seem oblivious to gimmicks, and trends. Yes, you are correct, God is a judge! We sin every day by the things we think, say and do, and by the good we leave undone. In short, everyone has sinned (excluding Christ). We sin far more than we're aware. Everyone deserves eternal Hell because of sin. From a 'fairness' point-of-view, God should throw every last one of us into eternal Hell. Jesus the Christ came to atone for the sins of His people, (the people whom God the Father gave Him). This, of course, touches on the doctrine of "election". Oh, this is a huge subject that can't be given justice in the small space of this forum! Christ said, "If you love me, you will keep my commandments." The good works that we do, do not merit Heaven. Yet, a growing faith in Christ, and increasing good works show that God the Holy Spirit is at work in us. Good works become our offering of thanks to Him. They also feed back into our sense of faith. But faith is a gift from God. Yet, we work with that faith.
They do put a lot of care into it. But it is accurately described as a Concert plus a Ted Talk.
I was going to say entertainment. But your description is perfect.
Would Jesus sermon on the mount be classed as a "Ted talk"?
@@growtocycle6992 Absolutely, if Jesus had a PowerPoint, a timer, and an audience that wasn't so into crucifixion, he'd be a total hit on the TED stage
@@growtocycle6992 Yes it's totally not disingenuous to compare some pastor to Jesus Christ. And no, Jesus called people to repentance and told them shit they didn't wanna hear. You'll never hear that from a nondenom service. They don't even understand the concept of sin properly since they think they're already saved and it's a done deal lol.
The concert description is just HILARIOUS 🤣 I’d be so sad if mass was described as a concert!
Praying for the conversion of the whole world to the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. God bless you 💕🙏💕
Well Said ❤❤❤ God bless you and Mamma Mary and all saints help them to know the True Church…
As a Christian, I really appreciate your thoughtful take on the churches you visit. Your objectivity and wisdom are refreshing.
This is such a cool channel! Catholic chica here. Very cool that you are visiting different kinds of churches and looking to soak in Scripture/literature in the future. Excited to see where your journey takes you. You have a radiant heart and an openness that is so refreshing. Thanks for sharing your heart with us.
Something to be aware of with non-denominational churches is that, while they claim to be non-denominational, they often do have ties to specific denominations. In the words of the comedian Tim Hawkins, "Non-denominational, you're not fooling anybody, you're just a Baptist church with a cool website." From my own experience, most non-denominational churches are either Baptist or Pentecostal. You usually have to look hard at their statement of faith to get an idea what they're actually a part of. My theory is that using the label of non-denominational is just a successful marketing ploy, because people are more likely to enter a church if they don't associate it with preconceived notions about the actual denomination and misinterpret the non-denominational as meaning it's a theologically neutral environment.
That's exactly it. Most "nondenominational" are actual Baptist or "Bible first" churches. Their goal is to evangelize therefore they want to remain as neutral as possible to attract as many newcomers as they can.
I don’t think that anyone who is truly serious could ever really consider themselves to be theologically neutral. You either got some beliefs that were thought of before by Christians of the past, or you’ve got some new novel idea, but whatever notion you subscribe to, it’s going to necessarily mean that you don’t subscribe to any other, which I don’t consider to be a bad thing by the way, as I said, that’s the only way to be a serious Cristian. What’s the point of going through all the effort if you just say everyone is right? I know there are some people who say that and still do go through the effort, but it would seem to me that there would be no need for those kinds of churches to exist if they really believed what they said. For the record, i’m Catholic.
@@SimplySkeptical22 And some unfortunately compromise morals or beliefs to get people in : /
I am Orthodox and have noticed a lot of younger people checking out both Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism. They are tired of the rock band and shallow theology of the non-denominatiomal denominations. People are seeking something eternal.
@@greatscott7691 s lot of people will be decieve for me not reading the Bible themselves and accepting what a preacher says at face value! We need to hear what the spirit says to the churches not necessarily what pastors are saying! Some are false! Many will come saying I'm Christ and decieve many
If you'd like to delve into the Mass, I suggest Fr. Chris Alar's videos "Explaining the Mass." He breaks it down step by step what is happening.
This is great.
About 6 months ago I started the same thing you are doing now. I didnt document it but I went out into the world of theology to rediscover my faith and find god. Im glad for this journey and have found my place.
I wish you all the best in your journey and search. May God bless you 😊
I’ll chime in as a Catholic convert (grew up Lutheran and toyed with Non-Denom’s before marrying a good Catholic girl and converting) I have found myself more wrapped up in the true presence of Christ in the Catholic tradition than I ever was with “Non-Denominational” or even Lutheran, even though the liturgy is nearly identical between the too (style of mass or service). So many Non-Denoms are wrapped in scandal or other sketchy immoral practices, even more so than many accuse the Catholic Church of. They invite you in with this clean veneer, but once you’re in the fold the curtain falls and you see what’s really there, and more frightening without any real ramifications having no hierarchical structure. Some groups are better than others, as I believe that Christ can belong to any church of true believers and followers, but what the one church has to offer is so much greater than yourself, which is where the church of “me” fails so tremendously.
One must ask. Does God put on a "show" with screens, neat productions and free items or does God prefer sacred tradition? God was born into poverty, among the animals, is he looking to put on a really cool tech savvy production or will he attempt to connect to you through his own creation? I'll be praying for you while you continue your journey. God is amazing and he has something planned for each of us. We just need to use our free will wisely and listen to him. God bless! I enjoy your videos and hope you continue your search for our Lord. He is tapping you on the shoulder, waiting to shower you with Graces.
To be fair, Jesus was not born into poverty. Joseph was a carpenter, which means he had a skilled trade, which Jesus Himself took up. Jesus was also highly educated, being able to read and write. He did, however, eschew material wealth.
@mournblade1066 he was born into poverty, in a manger with animals. They were hiding. God is God so I'm sure he needed no education, he didn't go to MIT, he created MIT.
I just discovered your channel. These videos are really excellent. They come across as dispassionate and objective. I’ve never been to a mega church so have enjoyed you describing it through the eyes of someone new.
Relevance isn’t a virtue.
Perhaps not, but Jesus was relevant in his interactions with those around him during his time on earth. That relevance and ability to connect with others, is what kickstarted this huge thing now known as Christianity. So - in an era of dwindling church attendance, it's the mega churches drawing people in.
@@BirchWind No, he was not relevant at all. He healed, and this is because we all need healing and the Church is a hospital.
It’s notable that Jesus never set up banquets or put on plays and performances to attract people, which would be the equivalent of what modern mega churches are doing but in the first century.
The Church is a hospital for the broken (which is all of us). That’s different than trying so desperately to catch people’s eyes using pop culture stuff.
@@BirchWind Also, it is becoming false that megachurches are drawing people in now. Young adults (I’m twenty-four) want tradition. I go to an Eastern Orthodox Church. So literally the most traditional form of Christianity out there. Every week, we get many new visitors, many of them flocking from megachurches, and the overwhelming majority of them being young adults my age. Traditional Christianity is growing incredibly quickly right now - as megachurch attendance is declining.
@@McGheeBentle Amen. I'm a recent convert to Catholocism after a lifetime in Mormonism and our Masses are PACKED and it's not even remotely close to majority boomers. I'm glad both our faiths are growing and I hope the blatantly false and insincere nonsense that is 'nondenominational church' disappears forever.
If someone would of told me no bibles at church because we are more hands off. That would of been a red flag.
@@itbelikethattho41 I thought the same thing. Through this, the pastor is basically saying “just believe me”. The congregation has to act under the assumption that he is correct and honest, pulling from the actual doctrine, etc. It can lead to corruption/incorrect teachings
@@SimplySkeptical22 - yes, well said. You've done a good job at giving praise where it is due as well as looking at the various reasons and angles.
I was hoping to hear the same question you had with your visit to the Catholic Church: “did you find a more or less spiritual connection?”
Does being entertained (“enjoying the show”) equate to being spiritually fulfilled?
I was going to ask the same quetion.
As a nonbeliever, I am not sure I can provide an answer to this question. From my outsider perspective, I found the Mass to be more spiritually connected. Some people may find that more within a worship setting with a live band. To each their own. Everyone is free to practice as they see fit (as long as no one is harmed).
@@SimplySkeptical22 From a Catholic perspective the sacrifice of the mass (a representation of the original sacrifice of Jesus) on the altar is the worship.
No sacrifice, no worship. You can see this in the Last Supper and what Saint Paul says in 1 Corinthians 10.
From a Catholic (as well as Orthodox) perspective we don't see what happens at an evangelical church as worship because there is no sacrifice.
Hope that helps.
@@BensWorkshop True.
God is judgmental toward the wicked as far as divine judgment or wrath goes! Discernment is another type of judgment! Discerning between good and evil,,! Believers are to have their senses trained to discern between good and evil!! Right and wrong!! However in John 5 24 Jesus said whoever believes won't come into condemnation or judgment!! As far as a believers godly services they will be evaluated for rewards not forgiveness
I like this idea of visiting different churches, cause there is so many, ive been trying to find my church home ever since i came to Christ, and as John 3:30 states, its more about Him, than us. Choosing truth over comfort, cause in truth we will be fufilled. I subscribed and looking forward to more videos! Kind regards
I'm not a stranger to the non-denominational thing. I even joined a Messianic Church led by a self proclaimed Jewish Rabbi.
I then investigated Judaism.
Ultimately my investigation of Church history and reading the ante-Nicene Fathers convinced me Protestantism is out of continuity with the Ancient Church. I was convinced I had to investigate the claims of Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox and the Coptic Church.
It took me 2 or 3 years to make a decision.
It’s nice seeing a nonbeliever actually do research instead of posting cringe on Reddit. As a Christian I pray you’ll come to the Light in time
I’ve watched your videos backwards lol. I would love to hear an experience at a conservative Presbyterian or reformed Baptist church, arts hearing your experiences at these three different churches.
I’m reformed Baptist, and have really appreciated your input ❤️
Hey just discovered you and subscribed, im excited to see all the others diferent denominations to come, i thought of doing something like this, however i already have a strong BIAS being borned and raised in a "Baptisp" type of church and already having explored Jehova;s Witness, Catolic, Pentecostal, services when i was a teen. Anyway its really nice to hear everything a person can capture going into a church,
Praying for your journey. I hope you find your way in the faith.
Interesting! I think you understood it is more like a concert with a lecture, glad they seem to be so friendly
Attend a divine liturgy at your local orthodox church
Judgemental sounds a lot stronger than rightful judge.
But it’s ok to judge rightfully as it would be done in a court of law.
interesting about raising money, in which, it's the optimisation and utility efficiency of using one's convincing power to persuade people to give out money in their pockets to certain directions and people, sort of a redirection of capital via skillful talking
The original definition of worship among the original Christians (see their writings) is different than what people suppose today.
"Following" being more important that "Belief" sounds a lot to me like "just be a good person," which according to Christ, no one is good but God, so a rather impossible task. The thief on the cross joined Christ in heaven because of his belief, not because he was a "good" person. Now, that doesn't mean do whatever you want, because as a true Believer in Christ, you would want to live like Him to the best of your ability, though we will always fall short of perfection.
I have in my time visited different Churches and religions, I have gone to a couple of ND churches, what I saw at them was pretty much what you described. I knew a Pastor of one and he kept inviting me to visit, so I did once. Definitely much different from a Catholic Church, I don't think I ever went to a Church that didn't ask for money.
Beautiful hair
most fantastic time you need to visit Catholic Churches was in Advent time...or this Lent Season specially on Easter Sunday.
I don’t understand how you can live and act like Jesus without studying Jesus in the Bible or having a relationship with Jesus.
@@Kristen-j4n that’s a good point
She's a sinner! Just like ever other human! Jesus didn't sin,
You feed the hungry, you care for the sick and house the homeless, as is taught in Matthew 25:31-46. According to this passage, people that do good works, but never heard the name of Jesus, will still inherit the Kingdom of God
To be like Jesus you can also call gentile women dogs, you can say you will bring more suffering then in Noah's day, you can say that people must hate their families in order to follow you, you can say that those who will follow you will gain 100 fold
@multiversogeek142 taken in context he said in that you did it to the least of these my brethren, he's talking to people who did the Jews during their persecution from the coming antichrist! Also their allowed to enter the kingdom not the heavenly city.these who are allowed to enter the earthly kingdom or remain on earth after Armageddon will repopulate earth for 1000 years before a final rebellion rev 20
"Non denominational" churches have Pentecostal or Baptist theology. They will avoid the label to attract as many people as they can.
@@John_Six in my experience this tends to be the case. I find very little difference between a nondenominational Sunday service vs that of a Baptist when it comes to doctrine
The amount of heresies that “pastor” said.
Example?
Hi!
I understand what you say, but honest question: why would someone go to church (any church) if they don't believe?
Just one more thing, church, in my opinion, is about reference for Jesus, who died for the sins of the world. Choosing a church based on how cool the church looks or something else on those lines should come last (or nshould not even be taken in consideration).
By the way (and so you can better understand my point), i am Catholic (and portuguese, so if my english is not the best i'm sorry) 😊
I appreciate your questions! If you check out my Intro video, I do address some of this. As a nonbeliever or a skeptic I think it is still important to expose myself to different religious ideas. If you are a believer and think that nonbelievers have no place in the church, then you are closing the door in their face for the chance for potential conversion. Many evangelicals believe that the nonbelievers are the most important people to reach.
Also, I completely agree with you that a church should not be judged based on its aesthetics, and rather the religious sermon itself is the most important. Where I live in the Bible Belt of America, there are many “fun” and “exciting” churches that focus more on the performance rather than doctrine. You and I share that opinion, along with many others.
@@SimplySkeptical22 First of all, thank you so much for answering my questions. It is very kind of you.
I probably didn't explain myself correctly in the first question. I thing it is very good that nonbelievers go to church and see for themselves what every church believes. I was actually refering to what the pastor said in the sermon 😊
I'm very interested in your journey and i've already subscribed your channel to follow this journey of yours.
Well I hope ! She takes a different route ! Cause catholacidm has a lot of errors,,not that thief isn't fake Protestants
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I like how you called out the pastor for contradicting what the Bible literally says about God. No hate to non-denominational people, but as a Catholic who has visited as many churches as I can, I have experienced multiple services where the pastor will say something that contradicts everything I was taught growing up even at the non-denom churches (grew up going to both Catholic and non-denom church thanks to my parents with different views)
Mega churches can afford to have all of these things because of the very large amounts of money they bring in. The more money they bring in, the more bells and whistles they can provide. It's like a big motivational seminar with religion as it's background music. I've seen some great small Anglican and Catholic churches fade away as the big evangelical mega-church types have moved in. The mega churches starting at a small location, but having music, handing out food at parks, putting on community events during the holidays and then they become huge and rich. Great advertising and marketing plans. I'll still always prefer an Orthodox, Catholic or even Anglican church if wanting to be in a Christian based faith group. I suggest checking out a Reform Judaism synaogue, or Orthodox. You'll see yet again a fully different way of celebrating God. (this time without Jesus as a mediary). So many different ways to God.
visit an orthodox church
As a Roman Catholic, I approve this message. The Orthodox Churches (both the buildings and the faith itself) are beautiful. I wish we could reunited sometime during my lifetime.
Here's a good presentation that might be useful for you in terms of understanding worship vs Bible study. Not trying to imply that Protestants don't intend to worship by attending these performances but that's all they are.... human centered activity that says the right words but never really gives God proper attention. These events mirror the world and all the distractions. God doesn't compete with the distractions and you will only hear Him in silence and whispers according to Scripture itself....
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You probably have to assist to bible studies with them. That's where they really get into depth on scripture.
There is no rules in the Bible how church needs to be. I was raised in an old fashioned traditional church and that is my preference. It is not the law though. It's possible for these big churches to be okay. We shouldn't judge them without cause. Only if they are teaching things that they ought not teach.
Wrong as there are rules in the Catholic church made Bible in how church needs to be .( and in early christian writings & archeology ) ...as the Catholic followers of Jesus & the Catholic writers of the 4 gospels & the scriptures do say how a church is to be & run & it's beliefs & practices & aspects.
Also talks in the book of the Apocalypse on how the church is in heaven......
It's ALL catholic....in its rituals & devotions & doctrines & traditions ect....
I mean Christ did not come to abolish the ( true ) law but to perfect it ( into catholiscism) .
Why his catholic church still has the Holy Priesthood/ the Holy Altar/ the Holy Tabernacle/ the Holy Divine ( physical ) presence/ the Holy Offering ( of the Mass ) / the Holy temple ( church ) just like in the O.T.
Oh my bad I forgot you protestant heretics have none of the above.
@@patof72clune51 Sorry but you need to calm down. Get over yourself.
This video is about, I believe she said she is an unbeliever and a skeptic..? And she is talking about her experience attending a mega church.
You have leaped in to making baseless personal attacks against me. My comment is accurate. Catholic tradition is optional. It is not dictated anywhere in the Bible.
Whatever you think you know about me is wrong. MY comment is true. As long as a church is holding to the trustworthy word and not teaching anything they should not teach. To be vague enough for a youtube comment troll.
I am not endorsing the church she speaks of. My comment was church in general. You don't own it.
There is actually no such thing as non-denominational church. Such a church is actually another denomination even though they hope they ain't called that.
I’ve seen a lot of new churches hiding under the guise of “nondenominational” but if you actually look in the fine print it will usually say, like the one by my house was a baptist church until a few years ago when it was changed to nondenominational as a way to appeal younger people
Honey the faith cannot be reviewed like food, restaurants etc. Are you joking? Do you really think that there is any dependance between size of the church, church decoration and the faith? If yes there is something wrong with you.
You are doing a great job!
To me this church looks like hell, to be honest. Be nice and good, you don't have to even belive... Atheist church!
She was paraphrasing. I think what was said is, "just believing isn't enough. Your life needs to reflect Christ in your actions, not just your belief
Before you conclude ,what church founded by Jesus Christ search references and history book ,does protestante worshipping does in the bible?
To start, I have to confess that it's pretty disingenuous when a church gets rid of their denominational name to call themselves non-denominational. It goes along with what you're saying, they care more about some sort of walk/relationship with Christ than about theology. The problem with not going into theology (the study of God) is that you can't know His will, and thus, cannot walk in obedience to Him. I can understand why you call yourself a skeptic, as the vast majority of churches are bent on pleasing people to get money to keep the doors open. I love it when churches seem oblivious to gimmicks, and trends. Yes, you are correct, God is a judge! We sin every day by the things we think, say and do, and by the good we leave undone. In short, everyone has sinned (excluding Christ). We sin far more than we're aware. Everyone deserves eternal Hell because of sin. From a 'fairness' point-of-view, God should throw every last one of us into eternal Hell. Jesus the Christ came to atone for the sins of His people, (the people whom God the Father gave Him). This, of course, touches on the doctrine of "election". Oh, this is a huge subject that can't be given justice in the small space of this forum! Christ said, "If you love me, you will keep my commandments." The good works that we do, do not merit Heaven. Yet, a growing faith in Christ, and increasing good works show that God the Holy Spirit is at work in us. Good works become our offering of thanks to Him. They also feed back into our sense of faith. But faith is a gift from God. Yet, we work with that faith.
Looks like you joined a cult and the curls were a requirement 😅
Oh, gross. You’re content farming the Faith. You had a sub for ten minutes.