Just caught up on a few of these latest videos and I'm totally digging the vibe, Laci! Gonna check out the podcast for the full guys bc I definitely want some more from these. Cheers on keeping the critical thinking brain train movin'.
The concepts discussed in this video were fantastic, though Stoicism has left a sour taste in my mouth in recent years. My ex tried his best to practice it, but he really did stuff down all his emotions. I guess he thought taking some time to "let it all out" wasn't Stoic? But it ended up hurting him (AND our relationship...sigh). So, sadly, I've only ever had negative first-hand experiences with it. Obviously a person could argue that processing the emotions in a healthy way (and not just ignoring them) could be a Stoic practice. So, idk, maybe he was just "doing it wrong". >_>
I think that if he couldn't deal with his emotions, and they ended up exploding, he was not stoic at all. He could be trying, he could think he was doing it, but in the end he was just bottling up. I thing people mix the two, as if they are the same, because of how, generally speaking, the "social media social sciences" talk about them. I can't even believe I lived to see Laci Green talking positively about stoicism, seeing as how much feminism seem to hate it, just because of this mixed up they do.
Yeah he was doing it wrong. Not his fault though, its a pretty common mistake. Theres been a misunderstanding that is foisted on men as to how to process emotions. It got lost in the hyper masculine Hollywood washout of the 80’s and 90’s, where men started losing touch with the environments that had formed the tenants of healthy masculinity (including stoicism). Any guy who has been forced to become well acquainted with strife, violence, conflict or danger of any kind will be will tell you that bottling your shit up leads to disaster. Therefor stoicism is best done by creating a tight knit support group that can be trusted, then communicating issues in a controlled way, so as to process them with the most amount of perspective possible. This form of stoicism should be in every mans life. Saves a fortune on medical bills and dry wall
Thank you Laci for another great episode. I feel this topic all the way especially being a Leader. I face a lot of challenges with my subordinates and I use a lot of resilience techniques to help them get through any hardships that come through. One of the main challenges we face a lot is failure but we try to help them understand it's temporary and to learn from it and continue to try rather than giving up. Again thank you for another great topic.
there is something about the first people who thought (and wrote) deeply about important stuff, in a more simple time, that resonates as more clear understanding. thanks lacy!
I have followed you for years and every video is a great learning opportunity and has shaped me in some way. I just wanted to say thanks for these videos.
Incredible! I really enjoyed the comment about how once we hit our baseline of having our needs met, getting more doesn't necessarily make us more happy. Serious light bulb moment.
I’ve always tried to act stoically but it’s incredibly hard. Always gotta fall back on my dudes Marcus Aurelius and Seneca however to help me realise that hey, those clouds over there are pretty fucking incredible.
Just realized, probably a lot of internet rage happens because people find that they can't in fact control what other people in the internet say and do, because there's less personal threat involved in non-face-to-face communication. People react to other's expressions and body language, and manipulators use those to guide conversation, and eventually thoughts. And we all manipulate a little bit when speaking, most without realizing it, because we want our conversation partners to like us and agree with us, or we want to agree with them so we follow their cues. But texts on screen aren't conveying feeling and emotion well, so nobody feels the intrinsic need to like and agree as they would witch a human present. Of course even in person, some people just straight up don't care or are hostile to you or your position so all but the best manipulators are going to find those conversations daunting.
This is really interesting. I wonder what the health benefits are to having this type of character or outlook on life? Especially in a word where you can die of heartbreak or give yourself a stroke from worry.
This is how I've always tried to live my life and I didn't know it had a term like this haha... but the practice of "letting go" of the things you cannot change has been important to me handling stress, anxiety and depression.
Laci, funny enough I've been practicing mindfulness and unknowingly Stoicism. I'm so glad you have made a video about it because it really does help. I've been struggling with depression and it has helped me learn how deal with events and feelings.
@GiRayne I understand what you mean. However my experience with it hasn't been so bad, because I've applied other practices along with it. I didn't even know I was practicing Stoicism but mindfulness has certainly helped a lot. And yes one should be aware of certain pit falls and read things through.
Man, I MISSED YOU, I have to say. I started watching you years ago when I was much younger. Now, as a 30 year old, I appriciate your stuff just as much ♡
I've been using stoicism for a while now and it's been so helpful. I love the comedic and sitcom framing techniques. Asking what kind of character I want to be is so powerful.
This video is so needed, especially now in a global pandemic that none of us can really control. I mean we can in a sense but we can't control what's gonna happen on a global scale so. Let's all be more Stoic.
Yo, Laci, this video was amazing, I feel like it explains how I live my life in vocabulary that I couldn’t even comprehend in attempting to explain. Might try and show this to friendlyjordies.
Good one! I have come to a stoic approach to living in my 50's via mentorship and its almost as if the stoic gods themselves were preparing me for 2020 lol.
Damn, I needed this. I love the idea of increasing positive feelings and naming more than just calm (which us more like a lack of emotions) and happiness. Wonder and awe, inspiration, creation, learning... reminds me of Shots of Awe youtuber.
In listening to this I was thinking about things that I have been wanting or almost obsess over and I realized that maybe a proper stoic mindset would be akin to how we approach video games. Even though there is a proper overarching narrative that we’re trying to accomplish, our goals are simple. We know that it’s possible to solve this puzzle. We know it’s possible to win this fight. We know this battle is just one of many more. In the midst of this chaotic gunfight, we don’t concern ourselves with the boss fight coming up in an hour or maybe even at the end of the round. We are focused on defeating the challenge in front of us. And if we lose, we don’t (typically) shut down the game forever and burn the chosen console. We start over until we accomplish the next task. In video games we live in the moment, explore our options, and try to make our player character the best we can be. We accept that there are aspects of the game we can’t control, and we try to manipulate what rules about the game we CAN control in order in order to achieve our goals.
Love Marcus Aurelius. I’ve read his Meditations many times. Some beloved principal thoughts I carry with me: put things in a realistic perspective, incl re: brevity of life, futility of fame, past is past, future not here, we only have the moment; if you can change it, do it; if you can’t change it, take another path; enjoy what you have, but don’t love it so much it will be awful to lose it
I don't know if I would fit into neither the mentor or anti-mentor category here, but I just want to say that I am really enjoying your content and I have tons of respect for what you do and who you are. I hope this can be taken as good feedback in any case haha. Thank you for creating and sharing with us :)
Hey Laci, I would suggest checking out the Modern Stoicism association which has a lot of good content and community forums. Also, I was taught by someone called John Sellars, who has some great books on philosophy as a way of life and cultivation of the self! All the best, loved the video.
Corsets are good for keeping you sitting up straight apparently, properly fitted ones of course. I don't think that this comes under stoicism, he was an early christian after all, but Boethius had a good piece of writing on how he dealt with losing his wealth, position in the senate and more while waiting for his execution. He sort of engaged in cognitive behavioural therapy to deal with everything that was happening to him. He changed how he framed the things that were happening in his life too though.
i'm not an expert but from my lectures i know that in any way stoicism philosophy wants you to maximizing the number of positive emotions. its even the opposite, they wanted you to control your positive and negative emotions. the point of this philosophy is not controlling emotions in order to be happy, but controlling them for promoting virtue and rational thinking.
There are times we have to react using our lizard brain. Like when I go out to adjust my thermostat and a Goanna jumps out like some velociraptor! That's a good time to use reaction to dodge those claws. But with a lot of human made stuff like money issues, people with opposing views and such, responding is always better. Cause when a person bites you the antibiotics you need make you more sick than lizard bite antibotics😉
You taught me so much over the years so thanks for that matter of fact I didn't even know what stoicism was but I know and going to learn everything I can about it now because this has to be the best thing I've learned all year oh and I definitely hit the like button on this this video in case you were wondering and I love that was the look in that shirt your wearing in this video because damn the girls looking good and you made a good point about something else as well dude does have a really soothing voice 🙂anyway thanks as always for your very informative videos I'll be waiting on the next one because I'm not watching that cuties shit no freakin way
I used to be emotionally hard on myself for years, and still try to work on valuing myself more than I do (I literally asked for a $0.25 raise on my review). Feel what you need to feel, understand the reasons for them whether it's failure or life just not working out how you wanted. Being at peace with yourself is important before taking next steps and those are whatever you want them to be. Pushing yourself again, reaching out, shooting for goals again, whatever little steps to help you feel like you're progressing again. Sincerely hope this helps and you have a great day.
Imo, there's way too many people who either want others to kotow to them or want acceptance from others. As an example; some people at work think the worst of me, but others know I don't tolerate people not doing their job properly. I am abrasive toward those that do and should know better, but not as much toward people who don't (ie new employees). While I don't seek acceptance, I do make sure my employees want to work for me. Not just do the minimum to get by, but work at a high standard because they know I'll go to bat for them when it's needed.
Important thing to remember about the Stoics. They were the wealthy, intellectual elite of their time. The vast majority of issues they were faced with could be resolved by throwing money, a slave or a student at them.
Matthew 26:72 He denied it again, with an oath: BAKA "I don't know the man!" he said. 73A little later some of the other bystanders came over to Peter and said, “You must be one of them; we can tell by your Galilean accent.” PETER is in ENGLAND 🏴 ask him he will say I dunno 🤷♂️ That makes it Galilean accident sound like Adonai Idunno meaning they are afraid to mentioned the name of God four letters in vain so they use Adonia same as like I don’t know like called a white lie 🤥 Beheadings Matthew 26:56 But this has all taken place that the writings of the prophets might be fulfilled." Then all the disciples deserted him and fled.
Thank you Laci for bringing this up. Stoicism is almost forgotten these days
Stoicism is for white supremacists. Us progressives dont believe in it.
True, but thankfully theres been a stoic renaiscence, specially during the pandemic
@GiRayne eg
Alberto Garcia
Right🙄. I am a white supremacist simply because I am not a snowflake. If that is the logic you follow, you need Jesus.
@@AlbertoGarcia-yb4ih get lost troll
Just caught up on a few of these latest videos and I'm totally digging the vibe, Laci! Gonna check out the podcast for the full guys bc I definitely want some more from these. Cheers on keeping the critical thinking brain train movin'.
I'd love if you did a video covering the sheer idea of being perceived, its so simple yet so terrifying.
Laci is one of the great redemption stories of e-personalities
Redeemed from what?
@@serbear931 People took issue with her because she used to be perceived as something of an "SJW" stereotype.
You forgot about rebecca black
Laci, this video could not come at a better time. You have no idea how much you've helped me today. Thank you!
“Your mind will take on the characteristics of your most frequent thoughts.”
-Marcus Aurelius
Seneca quoting Marcus Aurelius, nice
This is horrifying for people with intrusive thoughts and anxiety
@@sumobunnies everyone experiences anxiety and intrusive thoughts.
I read the daily stoic book. Just a simple message to contemplate at the beginning of every day.
The concepts discussed in this video were fantastic, though Stoicism has left a sour taste in my mouth in recent years. My ex tried his best to practice it, but he really did stuff down all his emotions. I guess he thought taking some time to "let it all out" wasn't Stoic? But it ended up hurting him (AND our relationship...sigh). So, sadly, I've only ever had negative first-hand experiences with it. Obviously a person could argue that processing the emotions in a healthy way (and not just ignoring them) could be a Stoic practice. So, idk, maybe he was just "doing it wrong". >_>
I think that if he couldn't deal with his emotions, and they ended up exploding, he was not stoic at all. He could be trying, he could think he was doing it, but in the end he was just bottling up. I thing people mix the two, as if they are the same, because of how, generally speaking, the "social media social sciences" talk about them. I can't even believe I lived to see Laci Green talking positively about stoicism, seeing as how much feminism seem to hate it, just because of this mixed up they do.
Yeah he was doing it wrong. Not his fault though, its a pretty common mistake. Theres been a misunderstanding that is foisted on men as to how to process emotions. It got lost in the hyper masculine Hollywood washout of the 80’s and 90’s, where men started losing touch with the environments that had formed the tenants of healthy masculinity (including stoicism). Any guy who has been forced to become well acquainted with strife, violence, conflict or danger of any kind will be will tell you that bottling your shit up leads to disaster. Therefor stoicism is best done by creating a tight knit support group that can be trusted, then communicating issues in a controlled way, so as to process them with the most amount of perspective possible. This form of stoicism should be in every mans life. Saves a fortune on medical bills and dry wall
Thank you Laci for another great episode. I feel this topic all the way especially being a Leader. I face a lot of challenges with my subordinates and I use a lot of resilience techniques to help them get through any hardships that come through. One of the main challenges we face a lot is failure but we try to help them understand it's temporary and to learn from it and continue to try rather than giving up. Again thank you for another great topic.
I really love this channel. I'm so glad you survived Cancellation Hell, Laci
Stoicism is such a great tool to deal with some of the difficulties of the world. Thanks for putting this out there!
there is something about the first people who thought (and wrote) deeply about important stuff, in a more simple time, that resonates as more clear understanding. thanks lacy!
I have followed you for years and every video is a great learning opportunity and has shaped me in some way. I just wanted to say thanks for these videos.
Incredible! I really enjoyed the comment about how once we hit our baseline of having our needs met, getting more doesn't necessarily make us more happy. Serious light bulb moment.
7:40 Welcome to the _self deprecating humour_ of us Brits. It's an automatic subconscious defence mechanism. lol
Taking the piss out of our own misery comes more naturally than breathing
well, look who it is 😉
I’ve always tried to act stoically but it’s incredibly hard. Always gotta fall back on my dudes Marcus Aurelius and Seneca however to help me realise that hey, those clouds over there are pretty fucking incredible.
Just realized, probably a lot of internet rage happens because people find that they can't in fact control what other people in the internet say and do, because there's less personal threat involved in non-face-to-face communication.
People react to other's expressions and body language, and manipulators use those to guide conversation, and eventually thoughts. And we all manipulate a little bit when speaking, most without realizing it, because we want our conversation partners to like us and agree with us, or we want to agree with them so we follow their cues.
But texts on screen aren't conveying feeling and emotion well, so nobody feels the intrinsic need to like and agree as they would witch a human present.
Of course even in person, some people just straight up don't care or are hostile to you or your position so all but the best manipulators are going to find those conversations daunting.
This is really interesting. I wonder what the health benefits are to having this type of character or outlook on life? Especially in a word where you can die of heartbreak or give yourself a stroke from worry.
Still love your content, after all these years. Probably the most constructive and non toxic youtuber of ALL TIME. Laci, you're great.
"i was getting asmar tingles" I love the way you said that! I love asmr - hope you make a video on that or an asmr video
This is how I've always tried to live my life and I didn't know it had a term like this haha... but the practice of "letting go" of the things you cannot change has been important to me handling stress, anxiety and depression.
Laci, funny enough I've been practicing mindfulness and unknowingly Stoicism. I'm so glad you have made a video about it because it really does help. I've been struggling with depression and it has helped me learn how deal with events and feelings.
@GiRayne I understand what you mean. However my experience with it hasn't been so bad, because I've applied other practices along with it. I didn't even know I was practicing Stoicism but mindfulness has certainly helped a lot. And yes one should be aware of certain pit falls and read things through.
@GiRayne
Precisely.
Stoicism is fundamentally fatalistic. It tells you not to care about any goals but the virtue inherent in your actions themselves.
This is exactly the reminder I needed. Thank you Laci (and Bill)!
Man, I MISSED YOU, I have to say. I started watching you years ago when I was much younger. Now, as a 30 year old, I appriciate your stuff just as much ♡
I've been using stoicism for a while now and it's been so helpful. I love the comedic and sitcom framing techniques. Asking what kind of character I want to be is so powerful.
It seems I have been practicing this for awhile, without even knowing. Very interesting topic, I will dive more into it.
Laci is talking about Stoicism! Yes!!!
Bruh I'm literally dead inside
Then you should literally bury your inside.
This video is so needed, especially now in a global pandemic that none of us can really control. I mean we can in a sense but we can't control what's gonna happen on a global scale so. Let's all be more Stoic.
hey laci just found ur channel again after a long time . i remember i was such i simp for u
The world needs stoicism now more than any time before, specially with people panicking, overacting and losing their shit over every little thing.
holy shit I cackled out loud when u said ASS-MURR for asmr, thank u laci what u beaut soul u are, sending u infinite love bb
Yo, Laci, this video was amazing, I feel like it explains how I live my life in vocabulary that I couldn’t even comprehend in attempting to explain. Might try and show this to friendlyjordies.
Good one! I have come to a stoic approach to living in my 50's via mentorship and its almost as if the stoic gods themselves were preparing me for 2020 lol.
I love the stoic philosophy, it is something I have been following for a while now and only good things have come from it.
That's ironic, because stoicism is fundamentally about not caring whether good things come from it.
Fantastic videos laci, I appreciate how insightful these videos are!
you're so charismatic, i really liked this topic laci, so happy you're back!
thanks for still doing videos love your stuff been watching for years; stay safe and healthy.
I truly needed to hear/see this today. ❤
Your therapist is worried that you won't pay her anymore if you can control your own emotions by yourself.
Damn, I needed this. I love the idea of increasing positive feelings and naming more than just calm (which us more like a lack of emotions) and happiness. Wonder and awe, inspiration, creation, learning... reminds me of Shots of Awe youtuber.
Great topic, seriously underrated video. Why doesn't this have more likes?
I really enjoyed this video! It was a great reminder and reinforcer of things I already knew. Awesome!!!
Laci Green did a video on Stoicism? Wow. You have grown a lot over the years. From a feminist, to studying Stoicism. I am impressed.
In listening to this I was thinking about things that I have been wanting or almost obsess over and I realized that maybe a proper stoic mindset would be akin to how we approach video games.
Even though there is a proper overarching narrative that we’re trying to accomplish, our goals are simple. We know that it’s possible to solve this puzzle. We know it’s possible to win this fight. We know this battle is just one of many more.
In the midst of this chaotic gunfight, we don’t concern ourselves with the boss fight coming up in an hour or maybe even at the end of the round. We are focused on defeating the challenge in front of us. And if we lose, we don’t (typically) shut down the game forever and burn the chosen console. We start over until we accomplish the next task.
In video games we live in the moment, explore our options, and try to make our player character the best we can be. We accept that there are aspects of the game we can’t control, and we try to manipulate what rules about the game we CAN control in order in order to achieve our goals.
Love Marcus Aurelius. I’ve read his Meditations many times. Some beloved principal thoughts I carry with me: put things in a realistic perspective, incl re: brevity of life, futility of fame, past is past, future not here, we only have the moment; if you can change it, do it; if you can’t change it, take another path; enjoy what you have, but don’t love it so much it will be awful to lose it
Welcome back! Need more Laci !
Stoïcism is only a matter of education,of personal filter and it's not easy all the time. Smart video!
Be Stoic. Its a Gamechanger. Luv this Video
Thanks for this awesome video, Laci. It explains in a clear and practical way what stoicism is.
...how the hell did 15% of the people *dislike* an episode about Stoicism?!
Haters who dislike everything without even watching the video.
@@ireallyreallyhategoogle Yeah, okay, but... this is tracking a lower approval rating than most of her other videos?
@@TheRealBoz Really?
Then maybe less people liked it.
Just started watching your channel again. And I love it so far
I don't know if I would fit into neither the mentor or anti-mentor category here, but I just want to say that I am really enjoying your content and I have tons of respect for what you do and who you are. I hope this can be taken as good feedback in any case haha. Thank you for creating and sharing with us :)
In the day i got frustrated in work, for not achieving excpectation, this video reminds me of this.....
Hey Laci, I would suggest checking out the Modern Stoicism association which has a lot of good content and community forums. Also, I was taught by someone called John Sellars, who has some great books on philosophy as a way of life and cultivation of the self! All the best, loved the video.
Love your vids! Much love to you, Laci!
Corsets are good for keeping you sitting up straight apparently, properly fitted ones of course.
I don't think that this comes under stoicism, he was an early christian after all, but Boethius had a good piece of writing on how he dealt with losing his wealth, position in the senate and more while waiting for his execution. He sort of engaged in cognitive behavioural therapy to deal with everything that was happening to him. He changed how he framed the things that were happening in his life too though.
i'm not an expert but from my lectures i know that in any way stoicism philosophy wants you to maximizing the number of positive emotions. its even the opposite, they wanted you to control your positive and negative emotions. the point of this philosophy is not controlling emotions in order to be happy, but controlling them for promoting virtue and rational thinking.
i practice stoicism it always works well for me
Thanks for the new video mommy
Failure is an opportunity to learn. If you want to become wise, you must fail often.
This was fantastic! Thanks!
Do you see any overlap between the ideas here and the ideas in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT)?
I've been called stoic a few times before, so I should be good at this haha. Nice video Laci
Thank you Ben Uda I really appreciate your hebal midecine..
Laci : well hello o there
Me: HOW YOU DOING😉
Great video! P.s. I love your wallpaper
"Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears." - Marcus Aurelius
This is so great. Thank you for sharing this laci.
There are times we have to react using our lizard brain. Like when I go out to adjust my thermostat and a Goanna jumps out like some velociraptor! That's a good time to use reaction to dodge those claws. But with a lot of human made stuff like money issues, people with opposing views and such, responding is always better. Cause when a person bites you the antibiotics you need make you more sick than lizard bite antibotics😉
You taught me so much over the years so thanks for that matter of fact I didn't even know what stoicism was but I know and going to learn everything I can about it now because this has to be the best thing I've learned all year oh and I definitely hit the like button on this this video in case you were wondering and I love that was the look in that shirt your wearing in this video because damn the girls looking good and you made a good point about something else as well dude does have a really soothing voice 🙂anyway thanks as always for your very informative videos I'll be waiting on the next one because I'm not watching that cuties shit no freakin way
Wow that's a lot of hurtful comments.
I liked the video. Thanks for the good content.
Stoicism is the Buddhism of European philosophy.
Exactly
Thank you. Thanks you. 🌈💕🤗👌
I needed this.
0:09 yeah, this video
Oh Laci, you're such a wonderful human being.
Excuse me sir. It is no simp september.
APOLOGIZE
Hello! I'm a new fan : )
I'm so depressed rn, that i can't even try to think positively and assume that I have any kind of power to resist stress within me.
I used to be emotionally hard on myself for years, and still try to work on valuing myself more than I do (I literally asked for a $0.25 raise on my review). Feel what you need to feel, understand the reasons for them whether it's failure or life just not working out how you wanted. Being at peace with yourself is important before taking next steps and those are whatever you want them to be. Pushing yourself again, reaching out, shooting for goals again, whatever little steps to help you feel like you're progressing again. Sincerely hope this helps and you have a great day.
I've heard depression isn't something you will yourself out of. Try to get external help.
Imo, there's way too many people who either want others to kotow to them or want acceptance from others. As an example; some people at work think the worst of me, but others know I don't tolerate people not doing their job properly. I am abrasive toward those that do and should know better, but not as much toward people who don't (ie new employees). While I don't seek acceptance, I do make sure my employees want to work for me. Not just do the minimum to get by, but work at a high standard because they know I'll go to bat for them when it's needed.
Getting all philosophical right here. Nice.
Wow I do all of this and have never read the stoic's...
What a great video, mhmm really good point., wow yeah that does sound very helpful, yeah okay I... Did she really just say 'assimer' and not A.S.M.R?
Ah yes. I take DBT therapy (dialectical behavioral therapy) which praise Marsha Linehan for!
Im surprised to find that I, not purposely practice a form of Stoicism.
Important thing to remember about the Stoics. They were the wealthy, intellectual elite of their time. The vast majority of issues they were faced with could be resolved by throwing money, a slave or a student at them.
Are you on spotify?
Great video and interview. Thanks!
Yes Marcus Aurelius would be proud! Another example of why western civilization is the best ty Rome!
Profound and really helpful!
Your great!!!:)
Matthew 26:72
He denied it again, with an oath:
BAKA
"I don't know the man!" he said.
73A little later some of the other bystanders came over to Peter and said, “You must be one of them; we can tell by your Galilean accent.”
PETER is in ENGLAND 🏴 ask him he will say I dunno 🤷♂️
That makes it Galilean accident sound like Adonai Idunno meaning they are afraid to mentioned the name of God four letters in vain so they use Adonia same as like I don’t know like called a white lie 🤥
Beheadings
Matthew 26:56
But this has all taken place that the writings of the prophets might be fulfilled." Then all the disciples deserted him and fled.
Awwwwwwww😚😘 ( my reaction while watching her)
I Didn’t know I was a stoic.
just listened to the podcast on sam harris' app with this guy wtf
Thanks so much!
Yes!
"Well hello there!"
And a hello to you too, fair lady!
@Pu5sy Devourer I dont simp for women, im just a decent human being.
You should try being one too.
@Pu5sy Devourer lol okay buddy, im gonna go watch a movie with my two girlfriends now, have fun with your life.
Good - very good.
For more on Stoicism by Massimo Pigliucci:
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