This was very well done. I was looking forward to this. Do you plan on going into detail regarding key figures and events within our history? Like Changamire Dombo and the Rozvi as well as the Mwene-Mutapas (emperors of Mutapa) in following episodes?
Yesssss !!! new video i have watch all of your videos more times than i can thank you so much for these and for covering these topics in a series much love💛💙🖤
Shona is a zulu word which means to disappear, die or abscond. Shona was initially associated with the nguni people who rebelled against king tshaka. Their exite or escape from South Africa to Zimbabwe earned them the name shona or bashona. In Zimbabwe those that were displaced by mzilikazi to the 9:00 northen and eastern Zimbabwe were also called shona because they disappeared from their original homeland. The word shona collectively denotes people of different tribes who were displaced by the ndebeles. It is just the as the word ndebele in Zimbabwe it embraces a lot of tribes who consist of the nguni, kalanga, tonga, tswana, lozi, rozvi, xhosa etc who were annexed (ukuthunjwa) by mzilikazi
Shonas are simply vaRozvi, vaKaranga and vaMbire people. They are not called Shona because Mzilikazi fought them, no. They were not displaced but Mzilikazi plundered their wealth and livestock, but most of them were not displaced
The term Shona hides history for what it is, most of the nations attributed to Shona, are Kalanga (and its variants as they exist in different languages)
Zimbabwe included Northern SA , Mozambique , Eastern Botswana and Southern Zambia...you don't define Zimbabwe in the context of post colonialism and the borders it inherited
Shona social society was divided into two groups Royals and Commoners. There was never a nobility where anyone was never a royal born member without a given title you could not acquire a title it had to be given to you like what you would find in other places in the world a merchant with no royal ansestors in Europe and asia could be classified a noble but in shona society also kalanga and venda that never existed you could only become a member of the nobility if you where royal given your title if male is mambo if you are a woman property of these men as a woman you only got a title according to the mans social status in this case if you marry a royal the title is mambokadzi your children didnot receive titles at all royal or commoner children if male in this case could only receive a title after being chosen to succeed their father since they where large families due to polygamy so a select few could be chosen to rule one after the other then with females she never had a title unless if she married a ruler only would she get a title mambokadzi being a royal daughter did not guarantee you would marry a ruler you could marry a commoner which was very common why?! Shona men love women especially beautiful women so to make sure to avoid incest especially with ruling families instead the mutapa/rozvi, provincial kings, provincial chieves, subprovincial chieves would marry any woman they liked especially family mothers and fathers had no control over their choice so a Mutapa/rozvi would have a polygamous house with all the wives being commoners . Women where property they didnot own anything even themselves even being the mutapa/rozvi daughter did not mean you where going to be a Royal forever especially if you where born ugly , if you where born ugly that meant marrying a commoner if you where born a beautiful commoner that meant being married to a mambo (mutapa/rozvi, provincial king, provincial chief, subprovincial chief) . So being a unchosen rulers brother meant you became a commoner since you where never given a title to begin with this was to prevent succesion disputes because in shona culture its only the rulers who have the power to enforce and make the rules, rule out punishment, land distribution (giving land to male subjects commoners after initiating the procedures through the right customes to aquire this land, also where to locate settlements like cities and villages ) , enforce labour (when needed like projects when it comes to farming and drystone walling) and the military. Women only had the right not power, to rule their current household(meaning her kids only) in shona a woman gets her own house(hut) she does not share with other women sharing with the other women that is forbidden in shona culture its mandatory to give a woman her own space even mordern today a woman gets her own house in a polygamous marrigae she does not share with the other women .So that meant even mutapa/rozvi wives had no power to enforce and no ruling subjects , a mambokadzi could only rule her household (meaning her kids only).
The word Shona was imposed by settlers who could not and still can't distinguish the various dialects in Zimbabwe. The correct word is the Karanga people.
The problem with embracing colonial terms like Shona is that you end up not knowing what you’re talking about. There was an executive order by the Rhody govt to develop a language called Shona which was to be forced on all non Zulu colonies aka non Ndebele. There is no such thing as Shona tribe let alone a legit Shona language in Zimbabwe. Further, all what you’re saying above is characteristic of Zezuru culture definitely not Kalanga/Karanga whatever you prefer to call us….it even sounds more like Zulu culture. There are many tribes under these colonial terms Shona & Ndebele. If you’re a Zimbabwean free yourself and embrace your true identity. Calling yourself Shona is the same as embracing that you’re a monkey because whites also called blacks monkeys. You’re not one. So stand up for your people and be proud of your individual identity.😊
Shona is a colonial project, the Shona language was created by the white colonizers, Shonas committed Gukurahundi, the k!llng of Ndebele, investigate this issue
What is being said here is history before colonialism yes the word Shona was given to by colonialists to define the tribes that speaks a common language with dialects the same with Nguni in which you the ndebeles belong So I understand that gukurahundi happened but that does not erase the fact that before mzilikhazi left Nguni land he settled in a place were Shona speaking people were living and before the Shona came the bushman were already there so if there should be the rightful owners of this land is the bushman so let's stop the hurt and learn to live together as Africans
@@samn6842 Gukurahundi must not be pushed under the carpet, all nationalities that committed &#@&R% must pay reparations, I believe many orphans were left behind
Not A king, but numerous kings and the first Emperor in Southern Africa, Munhumutapa. Builders & owners of the greatest pre-colonial architectural structure south of the Nile. What did your people build?
Thanks lm shona myself maita basa
This was very well done. I was looking forward to this. Do you plan on going into detail regarding key figures and events within our history? Like Changamire Dombo and the Rozvi as well as the Mwene-Mutapas (emperors of Mutapa) in following episodes?
Thank you. We'll be discussing Mutapa in the next episode as well as Rozvi. The series stops when the Ndebele arrive
As per usual I'm loving the content this channel puts out, keep up the great work!
Brilliant work on our great history as usual, and the way it's depicted and told is fascinating!!! 💯💯💯💯💯
Thank you for these videos Tunde ❤
Yesssss !!! new video i have watch all of your videos more times than i can thank you so much for these and for covering these topics in a series much love💛💙🖤
Im proudly Shona thank you 🇿🇼
Shona is a zulu word which means to disappear, die or abscond. Shona was initially associated with the nguni people who rebelled against king tshaka. Their exite or escape from South Africa to Zimbabwe earned them the name shona or bashona. In Zimbabwe those that were displaced by mzilikazi to the 9:00 northen and eastern Zimbabwe were also called shona because they disappeared from their original homeland. The word shona collectively denotes people of different tribes who were displaced by the ndebeles. It is just the as the word ndebele in Zimbabwe it embraces a lot of tribes who consist of the nguni, kalanga, tonga, tswana, lozi, rozvi, xhosa etc who were annexed (ukuthunjwa) by mzilikazi
Shonas are simply vaRozvi, vaKaranga and vaMbire people.
They are not called Shona because Mzilikazi fought them, no.
They were not displaced but Mzilikazi plundered their wealth and livestock, but most of them were not displaced
YOU ARE WRONG IT IS AN INDIAN WORD
The term Shona hides history for what it is, most of the nations attributed to Shona, are Kalanga (and its variants as they exist in different languages)
Where can I find out more about this
Great vid subbed
Do you guys gave this in a more detailed timeline format or more detailed transcript?.
Way before the stated time or dates!
Zimbabwe included Northern SA , Mozambique , Eastern Botswana and Southern Zambia...you don't define Zimbabwe in the context of post colonialism and the borders it inherited
True, this is tribal supremacy (fed by colonialist authors for their specific intent ofc.)
I love my Shona heritage
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not sure if i understood.
Shona social society was divided into two groups Royals and Commoners. There was never a nobility where anyone was never a royal born member without a given title you could not acquire a title it had to be given to you like what you would find in other places in the world a merchant with no royal ansestors in Europe and asia could be classified a noble but in shona society also kalanga and venda that never existed you could only become a member of the nobility if you where royal given your title if male is mambo if you are a woman property of these men as a woman you only got a title according to the mans social status in this case if you marry a royal the title is mambokadzi your children didnot receive titles at all royal or commoner children if male in this case could only receive a title after being chosen to succeed their father since they where large families due to polygamy so a select few could be chosen to rule one after the other then with females she never had a title unless if she married a ruler only would she get a title mambokadzi being a royal daughter did not guarantee you would marry a ruler you could marry a commoner which was very common why?! Shona men love women especially beautiful women so to make sure to avoid incest especially with ruling families instead the mutapa/rozvi, provincial kings, provincial chieves, subprovincial chieves would marry any woman they liked especially family mothers and fathers had no control over their choice so a Mutapa/rozvi would have a polygamous house with all the wives being commoners . Women where property they didnot own anything even themselves even being the mutapa/rozvi daughter did not mean you where going to be a Royal forever especially if you where born ugly , if you where born ugly that meant marrying a commoner if you where born a beautiful commoner that meant being married to a mambo (mutapa/rozvi, provincial king, provincial chief, subprovincial chief) . So being a unchosen rulers brother meant you became a commoner since you where never given a title to begin with this was to prevent succesion disputes because in shona culture its only the rulers who have the power to enforce and make the rules, rule out punishment, land distribution (giving land to male subjects commoners after initiating the procedures through the right customes to aquire this land, also where to locate settlements like cities and villages ) , enforce labour (when needed like projects when it comes to farming and drystone walling) and the military. Women only had the right not power, to rule their current household(meaning her kids only) in shona a woman gets her own house(hut) she does not share with other women sharing with the other women that is forbidden in shona culture its mandatory to give a woman her own space even mordern today a woman gets her own house in a polygamous marrigae she does not share with the other women .So that meant even mutapa/rozvi wives had no power to enforce and no ruling subjects , a mambokadzi could only rule her household (meaning her kids only).
How did you get all this information do you have an e-mail. I would like to leave from you
The word Shona was imposed by settlers who could not and still can't distinguish the various dialects in Zimbabwe. The correct word is the Karanga people.
A lot European perspective which we now know and rightfully teach as falsehoods
@@morebright or Kalanga/Khalanga/Kgalaka/Kalaka. No modern language can be attributed to our preceding empires. White people have tainted our stories
The problem with embracing colonial terms like Shona is that you end up not knowing what you’re talking about. There was an executive order by the Rhody govt to develop a language called Shona which was to be forced on all non Zulu colonies aka non Ndebele. There is no such thing as Shona tribe let alone a legit Shona language in Zimbabwe. Further, all what you’re saying above is characteristic of Zezuru culture definitely not Kalanga/Karanga whatever you prefer to call us….it even sounds more like Zulu culture. There are many tribes under these colonial terms Shona & Ndebele. If you’re a Zimbabwean free yourself and embrace your true identity. Calling yourself Shona is the same as embracing that you’re a monkey because whites also called blacks monkeys. You’re not one. So stand up for your people and be proud of your individual identity.😊
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Shona is a colonial project, the Shona language was created by the white colonizers, Shonas committed Gukurahundi, the k!llng of Ndebele, investigate this issue
What is being said here is history before colonialism yes the word Shona was given to by colonialists to define the tribes that speaks a common language with dialects the same with Nguni in which you the ndebeles belong
So I understand that gukurahundi happened but that does not erase the fact that before mzilikhazi left Nguni land he settled in a place were Shona speaking people were living and before the Shona came the bushman were already there so if there should be the rightful owners of this land is the bushman so let's stop the hurt and learn to live together as Africans
@@samn6842 it is wrong to promote people who don't even have a king
I hear you but why don't you push your own narrative as he pushing his
@@samn6842 Gukurahundi must not be pushed under the carpet, all nationalities that committed &#@&R% must pay reparations, I believe many orphans were left behind
Not A king, but numerous kings and the first Emperor in Southern Africa, Munhumutapa. Builders & owners of the greatest pre-colonial architectural structure south of the Nile. What did your people build?