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Berberic and old arabic languages share many words that you can only find now in berber language...it's widely believed that😮😂😂 the origins of berbers is east Mediterranean sea and Arab peninsula including yemen migrated thru the Mediterranean and etheopia and also from Egypt...so ethnically the are of Arab origins.
Im a amazigh from the riff mountains of the city alhoceima. I can confirm that we are not arabized. We still speak our own language and have our culture.
Warning. There is abvious propaganda driven in misrepresenting the antiquity period of North Africa. Dismissing the long lasted and string Numidia is suspicious. Similarly, western Numidia (labelled céder Ian Mauretania) has nothing to do with tangitine mauretania. I suspect the author is participating to the lying myth-building project of Morocco. Please beware
Then why people don't recognize it,but Arabic is recognized maybe you were colonize and reversed.A language define a people without your language who are you?
@@broximus4550 Speaking French & Spanish is more admirable than Arroubic (Syrian gypsy dialect spoken by those responsible for their Berber queen being beheaded, local languages disappearing, obvious cultural degradation, etc.) The negative consequences of even "tolerating" Arroub Supremacy in their land is so great that it is a testament to the mind-control aka *ummah spell* the pitiable North Africans are under.
@@mmgxo Arabic is the most superior language in existence, nothing come close to its eloquence, descriptive and poetry. Nothing you can say will change that its an objective fact. Also Arabs are a noble people, your slander only shows your own inferiority complex.
As an amazigh myself a Zenati. I confirm Arabs never arabized us, WE habe arabized ourselves and became more Arabic fanatics than Arabs. The first state who forced the population to convert to Islam and speak Arabic were the Almoravid dynasty who were Amazigh. And it's not something strange to us. Seeing today how much we adore french and teach it to our kids, and speak French even in our bedroom. It's US.
To moroccans that are Arab or amazigh. Studies like these seek to seed devide and hatred. Dear Moroccans, I remember amazigh people are also in part of the semetic people. These studies are only published to spread divide and hatred.
The French also helped in the arabization process by making it the State language in Morocco. In fact, Tamazight was spoken by around 80% of the population, whereas, after the withdrawal of the French from Morocco, it had been reduced to around 60%
This is probably true when it comes to the modern institutions of the State (e.g., compulsary education) .But the Moroccan State has a long history and must have had a State language before that. It's impossible it was Amazigh in any way, shape or form since it is not a unified language (1) and most importantly none of the variations can serve as a literary language since they aren't written. The linguistic issue in Morocco has mostly served the interests of the ruling class after independance since Arabic is the official language in schools, including for the native Amazigh speakers. Yet when entering universities, everyone is supposed to know French. Everyone was (is?) confused, hence all the powerful positions remain in the hands of the few. Great strategy for the ruling class but questionable choice for the people.
@@nofridaynightplans I agree with you. The language policy of Arabic and French mainly hurts Tamazight speakers. However, there were attempts to unify the language in the middle ages, but they largely failed, mainly due to the collapse of the Amazigh dynasties that were pushing them.
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
Incredibly well presented. Very good balance of nuanced information without being overly simplistic all while remaining neutral on the topic and not making bold claims. Looking forward to seeing more like this :)
Just to be clear to you. The vast members of this "Amazigh movement" are ethnic Arabs who have Yemeni origin. The real amazigh are the Tuaregs (who speak the purest amazigh dialect). These arabs are highjacking the amazigh ldentity by appropriating the tuareg language and script as heritage if their own.
@@moorishsociety7339 Zero Arroub$ were "from Yemen". They are originally from the Syrian Desert/edge of Mesopotamia. Squatting somewhere doesn't make you a local.
A great video! My Amazigh friends in San Francisco introduced me to the historic differences across North Africa. The centuries of unspeakable violence that characterized the entire Mediterranean since Antiquity have still not subsided. I wish so much self-determination was respected by and for everyone.
@@nofridaynightplansI speak Arabic and lived in Morocco, casablanca and Tanger, for a couple of years; and I do think that you yourself are of Moroccan descent. It's all there 😊
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
@@lebladful Do you have any suggested literature I could check out on the subject? I am genuinely curious in learning more about this history from the people themselves rather than from institutions and experts that trace their records back to arguably ongoing imperialist institutions.
As a Vietnamese guy whose dating an Algerian woman, I always give the analogy to curious MENA people that *Chinese vs. Vietnamese* are just like *Arabs vs. Berbers* or *Romans vs. Celts.* One group conquered and influenced the other, but never fully "assimilated" them; as the latter still have their local "native" languages and customs.
You completely skip the history of fierce resistance. Am not familiar with the Chinese vs. Vietnamese history, but I doubt it can be compared to the other two: Romans vs. Celts/Celto-Germans, Germans laid the cornerstone for European supremacy because in the end Rome was sacked by the “Barbarians“. The Arabic conquering tactics (military invasion but as well treaties - Byzantine Egypt had not yet recovered from another Sassanian attack and Christian Nubia (Nobatia) were never conquered but the Arab armies were fiercely defeated & a treaty was required. Therefore, numerous events gradually weakened the power structure of the entire continent in the end. Despite Islam being widespread in Asia, the continent is not under Arabic domination.
It’s not the same amazighs are an African tribe of people Arabs are not from Africa they are from the Arabian peninsula… Arabs and Amazigh are not related peoples … eg Chinese and Vietnamese are orientals Romans are Latins celtics are not so there are no comparisons here …..
@@tahliah6691 100%, the real imazighens are the African tribes of Tuaregs and zenaga of senegal. These Yemeni Arabs are appropriating this amazigh ldentity and language from the Tuaregs. Even the script they use currently is directly copied from the Tuaregs.
@@tahliah6691Do you have any brains. Vietnamese is a different ethnic and linguistic group than chinese. Even I as an indian know that. There is even difference in genetics
I'm a light skin native berber indigenous from the southern of Morocco far from the anti atlas mountains by 200 klm but we can stell look at the beginning of the anti atlas mountains series from a far and is snowy from the very far distance my native berber tribe with other over 50 native berbers tribes all of them speak Tamazight language from the extent of 20 klm and most of the families of this tribes every married couple got over 5 kids to 8 kids the maximum and the anti atlas mountains there's over than 3300k berbers native tribes
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
I’d really like to get some more insight. I’m working on animating African history around the 13th century (mainly the fall of the Ghana empire and rise of Mali mixed with their complex relationship with the Amazigh and Arabs. Great video❤
You find they aren't well preserved? I find the opposite (at least in Morocco, the only Maghreb country I know extremely well. The other being Tunisia, but never met any Amazigh language speaker there). From Bin el Ouidane to Sidi Kaouki, Imlil to Tafraoute, Aourir to Tata, you'll mostly hear Tachelhit. I don't even mention the Rif Mountains (different language there but still). The thing with Amazigh is that it is not only one language. There are many variations within that language family, which means that anyone from Ouirgane in Al Haouz will always resort to darija when visiting the Rif. That's why the linguistic issue in the Maghreb is a real headache. As for the Modern Standard Tamazight now taught in Moroccan schools, I must say I'm not convinced. This is an artificial language that has nothing in common with what people speak at home. I find it quite odd to be honest. Thank you for your comment! P.S.: to preserve languages, passion is a good start :)
@@nofridaynightplans no it isn't well preserved not in Morocco or any north African country tamazight isn't even thought in schools and was only considered an official language till 2011 and the government faced a lot of critiques from pan arabist and islamist constitutions and it still is to this day you can't even name your children amazigh name but rather Arabic name where the hell is freedom and acceptance of cultures??? , arabization really hurt the roots of north Africa and I say that as a Moroccan
@@Galbaudix Arrubization is THE enemy, that is what I keep trying to explain to the (abundantly dense to put it politely) North Africans online. There was even a woman named "Amazigh Lionness" who legit said that Islam saved North Africa from paganism, so it was "worth it" to be conquered. Yes the same conquering that involved beheading their Berber queen and displaying her in Syria for all to see. The not so bright woman then disappeared once I reminded her that Indonesia didn't need Arrubization to adopt Islam. Go figure.
Watching internal always feels like having you really interesting discussion with a wise, old friend. 😊 Love this videos, also because they tell me a lot of stories about languages and regions that I usually don't hear about. Please, please do make more of these!
Met people from North Africa over the years and first thing they usually say is something along the lines of “we aren’t called berbers that’s a slur, we are Amazigh” met people who can speak the Amazigh language also who have explained to me that the “L” and “R” sounds are similar to English which made the language easier for them to learn. They don’t identify as Arabs and Arab people seem to view them as different, according to my friends
Great video! I loved the thorough narration of the historical events. One remark however, as an Amazigh Kabyle from Algeria, i think you could've made the video longer if you addew that the post-European colobiql history of arabization and berber identity as it didn't stop at the migration of Bedouin arabs into the area, in fact, in the case of Algeria, the role of the post-independance gov played a huge role in the linguistic and ethnic dynamics especially since it was ruled for 2 decades by the pan-Arabist Boumediene-led FLN government. Boumediene effectively denigrated the assimilation of Berbers into algerian identity (especially Kabyles whom made up nearly a third of the national population, this defacto illegalization of the language made the prospects of arabization futher becoming al obligation, which culminated in the Berber Spring. Kabyle and Berber identities at large did recover, but the holdover from that period can still be felt, as you still have people who are visibly berber or of amazigh descent claiming that they "came from Yemen"
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
As an amazigh i'd like to confess that we're really good at learning other languages like in morocco speaking 5 or 4 languages is normal and we can easily adapt with foreigns but unfortunately we lack to be proud of our origins. We always protect ourselves and fight invaders but in the bottom of our hearts we admire the foreigns who conquered them and then we slowly turn to those invaders by time and for exemple the arabisation that you talked about and i wish that will change in the future and to recognize ourselves as a nation and not clinging to other nations like romans or arabs or the french
This is very easy to observe from an Ethiopian perspective. But honestly, where in Africa are any groups as proud as Horners?! We are clearly not common Africans, as offensive as that sounds, it is so true. We have a Puntite lineage to be proud of, a warrior tradition, and not even coastal Egypt/Sudan Cushitic groups could EVER be conquered by Arab$ - when their fat asses only discovered the Red Sea not so long ago (they are not indigenous to Arabia & came from Syrian Desert). I have even seen Arab$ telling other people that we are "partly related to them" lmao in their inbred dreams.
Gtfoh with miss information....you Ethiopians are like morrocans like op said.youd be quick to grasp at any Arab lineages than any pure africanes.hell if I called you African you'd feel insulted😂😂that's how low esteem u got.@@mmgxo
@@mmgxo Ok, I love your Ancient African pride cause I share it even as an African American, but what in the world is a common African? People of African blood should stick together and support each other so to divide us (as many Ethiopians have been accused of by other Africans) does not help our cause to stand up to conquerors of every nation. Love and peace to you my honourable sister.
@mmgxo no Arabs want you to be related to them , your Ethiopia became to be known thanks to yemenite arabic people who invaded your lands 1000 BC , introduced you to their languages, their writings , and founded Axum , among other things ,... as a matter of fact there are still many tribes in Ethiopia running half-naked, you only need google to see that .
Lies, Amazigh are Algerians and native to Algeria, morroco is not amazigh, only few people of the north as it belonged to Algeria, Numedia ( Algeria today) used to own all of north africa, morrocans are a mixture of immigrants from senegal and yemenite jews, and the north used to be its own land, it got colonised in the 70's along side sahara occidental, the cities od morrocan are no more than 800 years old and it was Algerian civilizations who created them: the Mohahid, the Zenatti, the Merinides, the wattassi, the saadinite...they named them and they were the ones who built their historical monuments, the country of morroco didn't exist until 1910 it was hubert Lieuté a french lieutenant who created it and put a random guy as a king over it, everything traditional in morroco including: cuisine, clothing, sewing, broderie, potterie...is Algerian, Algerians are the ones who taught them everything they know today, and they're still learning, Amazigh date way back then 9 bc by thousands of years, shishnak an Algerian amazigh took even the throne in Egypt and became a pharaoh, and they don't come from Phoenician's, its their own kind, in fact they found that their language tifinagh is the oldest written language in the world, it was found carbed on a rock, same for Tunisian they're immigrants from Lebanon
Thank you. Your support is greatly appreciated. I would just like to indicate that this channel explores a wide variety of topics on languages and is not exclusively dedicated to North Africa. I was truly eager to try to understand why some people tend to abandon their languages in favour of another and made this video with this objective in mind. Thank you for your kind comment. All the best to you.
Many don't understand that since Arabic is a semitic language berbers could easily learn it. The benefits of knowing Arabic in many areas is that many tribes had different dialects that were very almost non-mutually intelligible. So in order to understand each other either one tribe had to learn the dialect of the other tribe they are dealing with or the opposite. Since there were not just 2 but more tribes with different dialects Arabic was very useful in that way that it helped that everyone understood each other. Same also counts for Middle Eastern countries like Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon where Assyrian, Aramaic and other languages where spoken that whose respectively language systems where not unified. Since at the time of the so called "Arabization" process there were also Arabs among the people in those countries and through the Golden Age of Islam where Islam taught in Arabic and the quran was used as a standard Arabic reference book, people used Arabic as a language to communcate with each other. Since Arabic was at that time relatively standarzised it offered also in this part of the region benefits. So although there could be some forced Arabization it was never done systematically. Arabic just offered in those times benefits what other languages didn't and since it is a semitic language it was adopted by other Semitic language speaking tribes (like Assyrians) as their language of choice. This process was a gradual process of course. English offers a similar example. Many people around the world use it today to understand other language speaking persons. In Amsterdam for example you can live without speaking any Dutch just by speaking English. Dutch people can also learn English relatively fast since Dutch and English hare many similarities.
Arab bedouins did not arabize Amazigh people because Arab bedouins were slaughtered by the Marinids, arabization of some tribes is ascribed to arab bedouin women enslaved by the Marinids.
just some poor riyahids in morocco, actually the marinids were brutally crushed in 1347 in kairouan by the bedouins read about it, and they also get defeated by the bedouins in eastern algeria and in tlemcen in 1369, cope harder ,no way women can arabize an entire tribe and also WOMP WOMP RIO DE SALADO 1340 and don't forget your princesses were captured by the arabs and the spaniards
Arabised? Lmfao are you serious. Call it colonization, just as you would if any other group had done it. The Berbers have forgotten their own language and now pray to another people's god. They were colonized. Call it what it is.
The Berbers were conquered, then willingly accepted the truth of Islam, then they rebelled against their conquerors, then they themselves became conquerors taking over places like Iberia and West Africa. There is only one God and he is everyone's God, just that some are too arrogant to believe. And as someone who actually lives in North Africa, I can assure you that they did not forget their language 💪🇲🇦
I think colonization refers to like exploiting the resources and not becoming natives(?) of that land? For example the Europeans colonized USA even when it had racially European people. Replacing almost the entire population by Arab is Arabization. It's like Christians colonized the Nordic countries while infact it was actually Christianized. I am being respectful and I expect civilized discussions regarding this.
@@Ani-13-w8d Arabisation happened when Arab language and culture was spread in North Africa, the native population was absolutely not replaced by Arabs because it was impossible even if Arabs wanted to and because Berbers are still the majority of people until this day.
@@ahmedsalek976 It still doesnt make it colonization tho I dunno what point you wanted to make. It's the same with other cultural process too like the Turkification of Central Asia. The culture is deeply Arabized and Islamized too though some ofthe countries are majority. Also this is an excerpt from Wikipidea: Ethnically, Berbers comprise a minority population in the Maghreb. Berbers comprise 15% to 25% the population of Algeria, 10% of Libya, 31%to 35% of Morocco, and 1%of Tunisia. Berber language speakers in the Maghreb comprise 30% to 40%[better source needed] of the Moroccan population, and 15%to 35%[better source needed] of the Algerian population. The sources are given in the original page and they are nowhere near majority which is kinda sad. You can check the references here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbers#Contemporary_demographics
It is worth mentioning that Turkey itself was "turkified", with the arrival of turkic peoples to Anatolia which was previously populated by other indigenous people such as the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, etc.
Greeks are not indigenous people of Anatolia. The Anatolian nations were the indigenous people. Hittites, Lydians, Karians, Lykians etc. These nations were speaking Anatolian languages (such as Luwian) not Greek. Greek came from the other side of Aegean sea and Hellenised the whole Anatolia, with trade colonies first and later by conquest. I am really surprise a few people know about this. Similarly, Assyrian are not orginally from Anatolia. They spread via Assyrian Empire's extensive conquests.
this is better than that history and geography("tarikh o ljoghrafia") program they taught us when we were young. Thank you miss, you made my night. I'm currently writing a fantasy book inspired by our culture, history and folklore(Moroccan mostly) and... well this is very intriguing and useful. I think you should do more of these!
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Your problem is that Pakistanis are fanatical followers of an Arab cult of an Arab man. One that freezes you in the customs and mores of the 7th century. You have the eternal and unalterable word of Allah and you have a "perfect" man to slavishly follow and emulate. You are forced to believe that on pain of an unpleasant and painful end. That sucks. You are the slave of a harsh master, not a loving father and your perfect messenger was s€× obsessed pdf.file who married a 6 year old baby, the wife of his adopted son. A warrior who, with his own hands or sword, unalived countless people. A man who had no qualms to make and trade slaves. The list of his imperfections and immorality is very long. Be better than that.
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
As a Moroccan Oujdi from a mix arab amazigh descent I find your video very informative and precise. I want to add that "Arab" is an ethnolinguistic identity, just like being jew is an ethno religious identity. Which means that arabs since the beginning were ethnically diverse and binded by language. That's why, historicaly we find many categories for arabs, either Geographicaly or socially like qedarites arabs (north semitic Arabs) and qahtani arabs (Afro-Asiatic people) While both groups identify as arabs. So, yeah in a sense, Moroccans were arabized both culturally and linguistically so it's quite normal for many to identify as arabs and that shouldn't be considered wrong likewise identifying as pure amazigh. Fun fact, we talk about berber arabization but many don't know about arab amazighation. Many arab tribes in my area (migrated in the late XVIII century) have fully assimilated into amazigh culture and many think they are berber tribes while "ethnically" they are arabs. So in Morocco we had this weird exchange 😅
This is the best observation I've seen in these comments so far. Very accurate and open-minded. When you said some of the Arabs were actually drawn into the indigenous culture and today think they're Berbers or Moors.. I knew you knew what this videos isn't saying.
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
This channel is exsclusively about languages. I don't discuss ethnicities. It's clearly stated on the first image of the video: arabised = Arabic became the main language in the region. The question that interests me is: why have some people abandoned their languages while others have not? It's unfortunate few people actually pay attention to what is being said. Who knows people's ethnicity anyway? North Africans are bound to be among the most ethnically diverse individuals on the planet...
It is not called invasion, I am Algerian. I do not care about being barbare or Arab, I am a Muslim, and that is all that matters. By the way, Amazigh is son kanaan, kanaan are Arabs. Therefore, we go back to square one. Whether we are Arabs or barbar we all Muslims Alhamdulillah. There is no room for divide to concur.
Islamization accompanied by Arabization have also affected other regions a little further south of the Maghreb such as Sudan and Chad. If you can produce a video as exciting and instructive as this one, it would be TOP
an other nonsense, Arabs migrated to those places taking their language with them. People in that Area speak Arabic because they have Arab ancestors. Why don't you talk about Anglization of America ?
About 40% of Persian literature is Arabic words ,,, and the Turkish language is a mixture of Persian, Arabic, and French ,,, and the French language is a product of Gallo-Romance dialects , while English is a product of Old English, Danish, Norse, and French, and has been changed by Latin, Greek, Arabic , Chinese, Hindi, Japanese, Dutch and Spanish, along with some words from other languages .
Ok…? 🤔 Most languages are influenced by other languages. That’s just common sense and it’s something that’s going to happen naturally. Even Tamil and Korean have many similar words… due to supposed ancient history, with an Indian princess marrying a Korean ruler, or something. But if you look at international borders, regional accents of different languages, and different cultural traditions, they flow and influence one another, and change gradually as one travels. For example, if you traveled west from Japan all the way to the Iberian Peninsula, you’d see influence and interchange between borders. Or if you went from India north through Siberia, look at all the regions and how they flow into each other. Japan flows into China, Korea, and East Asia, and vice versa. China flows into the Central and West Asian cultures, which are also influenced by Russians to the north and Persians and Arabs to the south, and Turkic peoples, too. The Middle East and Levant flows into Anatolia, which flows into the Balkans, which flows into the Adriatic, which flows into Italy, which flows into the south of France, which flows into Spain and Portugal. You could literally look at hundreds of scenarios like this. So yeah, languages are always influenced by their neighbors or "colleagues".
@@erikm8372Marrying the princess is not the correct Statement. Tamils live in the coast. And near the coast they would trade a lot. A lot of buddhist monks from India would visit foreign people and vice versa which resulted in several shared words b/w each other. It's dumb how people almost always forget trade influence
Lol...what a soup !!! Primordial soup...but turkish is not what you mentioned above ...turkish is a horse of a different color... Kalimera from kalamata
Shah tried to purificate the Persian language from Arab and and Turkic borrowings by exchanging them to the native Persian from Middle Persian Sassanid period. But you've got so called Islamic Revolution and all tryings came to an end.
Turkish is a mixture of Arabic, Persian and French? The frequent use of Arabic or Persian words in daily language may mislead those who don't know Turkish, but for this expression to be correct, each of them must constitute at least one third of Turkish. However, at least 80% of Turkish vocabulary is original Turkic. That's why even today we can easily understand the vast majority of Turkic texts written 1500 years ago, and we can communicate without a translator with the Yakuts who speak their own Turkic language in Siberia, thousands of kilometers away from us.
A very interesting video and I can see some parallels with my own country, England. We too had ancient Phoenicians, Greeks and Romans arriving here. The Romans stayed for nearly 400 years, but as in the case of the Amazigh left very little genetic or linguistic evidence because the people continued to speak Brythonic. However, in the 5th century AD, Angles and Saxons arrived and they did change the spoken language into what was to become English. So as in the case of the Amazigh, why did they adopt Arabic and why did the Britons adopt a germanic language yet neither changed their language to Roman previously ? It was thought in England that the Anglosaxons had completely taken over and killed all the Brythonic speakers. However, with modern genetic tests showed that the majority of the population didn't change only the language, but why ? I think the answer could be very similar to what you have said about the Amazigh.
Just Study amazigh languages and Use them again ... Hebrew was extinct for many centuries and it's now spoken by millions of natives . Viva imazighen .
Why don't you revive etruscan, Aequian or somesort instead of fabricating artifical language and state inside arabs homeland. Are we free experimenting subjects to you ?
@@SarahHaddid the difference between those langauge and amazighs is that a huge fraction of north africans in Morocco and Algeria still speak it as a first languages
Palestine is not the home land of the Jewish people -- its the land of Canaanites ( the Roman called it Palestine ) thankfully the discovery of 4500 year old Canaanites graves have been genetically studied it turned out that they are genetically closer to Arabs including Palestinians by contrast most Jews are genetically related to non Semitic population such as Europeans especially Italians and Kurds and Persian and Turks ( a small minority of Mideast Jews are genetically related to Canaanites and Arabs ) most of the world Jews are Ashkenazi Jews they are mostly Europeans who either converted or migrated to Europe from Anatolian and mixed with European women thus the strong links with Italians , the Levant which includes Palestine witnessed through its history migration from Anatolia and Persia into the Levant due to instability in Anatolia , modern examples are the Maronite Christians who migrated to Lebanon and Syria fleeing the Byzantines prosecution in Anatolia or the Druze both immigrated from Anatolia to the Levant , and finally the Kurds in Syria who migrated to Syria fleeing Ataturk regime and fled from Iran to Syria fleeing the Shah regime in addition to economic Kurdish migrants in farms in Syria , in short the vast majority of Jews in Israel are certainly not native to Palestine if they were they would have strong genetic links to the native Canaanites yet they have strong links to non Semitic groups .
@@tygbs كلها مجرد اسماء حبيبي كلنا بني ادم + اذا ولد البشر على القمر , فهل يعتبرون بشرا ؟ نعم , لذا لا يهم المكان الذي تتواجد به او ولدت به لتكون لديك هوية معينة فمثلا انا رغم كوني امازيغيا , لكني لا تحدث الامازيغية بطلاقة و لا اعرف تقاليد اجدادي كلها , بل اللغة العربية و ثقافتها هي التي ترعرت معها
Excellent talk, I don't know if you're familiar with Frank Herbert's DUNE but I was told that Fremen is a direct translation of Freeman in one of the Berber languages. How true would you say this is?
That's an interesting question. Unfortunately, I cannot answer. I don't know any of the Amazigh variations :) However, there are many speakers in the comments. Maybe try your luck with one of them?
I noticed some kind of similarities with english, but who knows, like imagine in Arabic " Earth " is "ard" same as english, and earth isn't a borrowed word from Arabic as Giraffe or alcohol or else but it's an old english and germanic word, and same for Arabic "Ard" is an old word.
Great video on a great topic that is seldom discussed. TY (immediate and enthusiastic subscription, of course). I beg to disagree with you on Latin only spreading to Indoeuropean areas: many non-Indoeuropeans were also very strongly Latinized (Etruscans, Ligurians, Sardinians, Corsicans, Iberians and Tartessians at the very least), while some remote Indoeuropeans like the Britons retained their language until today (Welsh). In North Africa we know that the Latinization of the former Phoenician cities was quite strong and that at least the elites spoke Latin regularly, for example Septimius Severus (the first not-really Italian Roman Emperor, who had an accent anyhow) or Augustin of Hippo, whose texts show that North African Latin had the same "betacist" tendency (confusing "v" and "b") as Iberian one (Omniglot had a good video on that). Latin linguistic hegemony continued under the Vandals and Byzantines (who had not yet shifted to Greek as official language) but was of course limited to whatever the actual borders of Africa province were. As for foreign arrivals through history a key marker is Y-DNA J2, which may signal Semitic or even Roman immigration (J2 was spread into West Europe mostly by Roman settlement for sure but in North Africa is more likely to signify Phoenician or Arab inflow, I guess), Turkish settlement would also be associated. Asmahan Bekada, Lara R. Arauna et al. ("Genetic Heterogeneity in Algerian Human Populations", PLoS ONE 2015) found only very low frequencies of this outsider lineage in Algeria, concentrated in Algiers (6% in one sample, 0% in the other) and Oran (5% in one sample, 1% in the other), elsewhere it was absent. An older study from the same main author (Asmahan Bekada et al., "Introducing the Algerian Mitochondrial DNA and Y-Chromosome Profiles into the North African Landscape", PLoS ONE 2013) found (table S6) 5% J2 in Algeria, 3% in Tunisia (surprisingly low IMO), 1% in Morocco and 0% in Libya. All this supports what you said in the video about the small figures of the various invader groups, especially the Arabs. Best wishes from the Basque Country.
Thank you so much for this very informative comment! I sincerily appreciate it. The study I read indicated that Latin had tended to take root on IE substrates, while it was the opposite for Arabic. But it's interesting to know that non-IE peoples were indeed latinised. I don't know much, not to say anything at all, about the genetics of the people you mentioned, but thank you for sharing the information.
@@nofridaynightplans - I concur that IE peoples, most of them of the same Celto-Italic stock as the Latins, would have been more easily assimilated not just in language but in culture by the Romans but the Etruscans and the Iberians/Tartessians were more civilized and that's also a gateway by which the overall Roman civilization (and language) penetrated, following on the steps of the more modest Phocaean Greek colonies (Marseilles notably, very adept at befriending the Iberians and Ligurians and bumping heads with the Phoenicians and Celts). The Iberians and ancient Sardinians were Vasconic (i.e. related to Basques and descendants from mainline European Neolithic peoples of Anatolian roots) for sure, the Ligurians probably too but there is debate for lack of evidence, the Tartessians are a mystery but definitely pre-Indoeuropean. The Etruscans were a very different group (Tyrsenians, also documented in Lemnos), probably from the Aegean, also pre-Indoeuropean and were key in the formation of Rome, which they ruled for a long time and gave many cultural elements, including the precursor of this very Latin alphabet we're using. A phonetic fact that may have ever so slightly helped with Latinization in the case of Vasconic peoples is the shared five vowel system. Most Romances have now diverged from that but Spanish (Castilian) notably retains it very well (save for long vowels not anymore in use) and that's surely because it has strong Basque influence. Some ancient Roman whose name I can't recall said that the Aquitanii (as Basques were known in those days) spoke a very good Latin, while in Rome apparently almost everyone did it wrongly. This may have been because of similar phonetics, I guess. But the main factor is IMO how strongly were the Romans invested in each province and district. Places like Baetica (Andalusia), where Italian colonization was very strong (about 20% of Andalusian ancestry seems to be Roman/Italian) Latin surely became dominant very quickly, while in remote areas like Mauretania, Britain or NW Spain/SW France, that Latin education was surely limited to the elites at best. In North Africa there must have been a strong distinction between Africa Province, especially the Phoenician cities, and Mauritania and other relatively remote areas, where Roman domination was lax and perceived as distant.
@@nofridaynightplans - I used to have a blog on the wider issues of prehistory, population genetics and general anthropology, which has some articles and references on the matter and others. However nowadays posting any links at YT comments seems to be totally shadow-censored (i.e. your comment seems to go through and then vanishes, sometimes you can even get "spam" warnings). In my experience even naming the blog (which absolutely legit and hosted by Blogger, i.e. Alphabet, the same company that owns YT) results in the same kind of shadow-censored. So I'll give you the details (no links) in separate replies you might be able to read as notification but will almost certainly be deleted anyhow.
@@nofridaynightplans - Search for a blog called "For what they were... we are" and, once there, search for "ancient Iberians" or something like that. There's a chronological index at the bottom right but it's many years long. Searching for "Sardinians" or "Basque origins" should also produce interesting results. Cheers.
One of the best (and most uncommon) things about UA-cam is when you come across a video that addresses a topic that you've wondered about for a long time. Ever since I learned (some 45-50 years ago) that north Africa was populated by "Arabs" (and that this is apparently the reason everyone separates "sub-Saharan Africa" from North Africa), I've wondered why this is, how far back it went that these people were known as Arabs. I remember watching Anwar Sadat on television and trying to figure out if he "looked" Arab. In short, this topic has been in the back of my mind for a long time. I hoped someday that a little missing piece of a jigsaw puzzle would fall into place, answering this old question of mine. But alas, it was not to be. Young Miss No Friday Night Plans, while doing an expert job at addressing this question, also made it clear there was no one moment when the Berbers became Arabs. History is messy, and this story was messy, and so while I found no joy in learning the answer, I do take comfort at now being a bit more knowledgeable than I was. Thank you.
Thank you for your comment and support - appreciated. The main point of the video is to determine why some, here North Africans, abandoned their languages in favor of another. As I specify in the video, arabised is to be understood as "a region where Arabic became the dominant language". North Africans are bound to be among the most ethnically diverse peoples on the planet for objective historical reasons. An acquaintance of mine used to say that, despite being Chleuh and thus a native speaker of Tachelhit, he was proud to be an "Arab" because being Arab is defined as "having an excellent command of the Arabic language". This was the main motto of Panarabism. In this video, I have stated the objective historical reasons why the Amazigh tribes usually favored Arabic in the development of their State tradition. It is unfortunate this whole comment section has turned into a feud in favor of one ethnic group against another. Thank you again for your support.
because it was done in peace with the rules of war, these who started the hostilities were berbers there were not that many casualities though it was only a few, the muslims never harmed any innocents unlike the christians did, not long after islam spread to our lands we became the greatest nations in history, we established ourselves in Spain and southern France and spread peace and prosperity there by the will of Allah. Christianity and European enslaved and genocided us. Islam raised us!
When Islam came to Egypt for example, even Copts welcomed it because it lifted many oppressive measures set by the previous occupiers. The only thing that the Muslim conquests usually change is the ruling political system; the populace is free to practice its religion and its property and economic rights stay unchanged and are protected. You should read about how Jerusalem was conquered, the top Christian officials were asked to leave and carry whatever they needed with them, no bloodshed, no stealing of property.
The most logical reason is religion, amazigh chose to be Muslims and speaking Arabic is essential because Coran is written in Arabic and also prayers are in Arabic.
Yes, but many countries are muslim and have arabic as a second language, no need to abandon it. If it were like that then why did God create THEIR language? I don't think it's a valid reason, but you might be right.
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
@@lebladfulSanjaha are not of West Asian origin. There have been scattered pre-Islamic micro migrations from Western Asia to North Africa but archeological finds have proven the indigenous presence of Sanhaja dates back to the Neolithics. Matter of fact, Sahraouis are specifically of Sanhaja ancestry. I also carry some Asian dna, but that doesn’t mean I‘m of Asian origin.
„Chose to be Muslim“. Then explain the Kharijite revolt which defeated the Umayyad rule. Explain how & whySālih ibn Tarīf formed an indigenous Amazigh branch of Islam where the teaching were written & taught in Tamazight. This was a reaction to being treated as inferior by Arabs despite having converted to Islam & playing an essential role in spreading & establishing the faith. The indigenous new Islam based religion lasted for almost 3 centuries until it was annihilated by the Almoravids.
@@Koko70816chose ?? That is why hundreds of thousands of women were sent to the Middle East to be sold as sex slaves according to Islamic heritage. Or maybe those are not important to you ?
7:40 awesome drawing… I have to wonder what that life was like. From what I've read Bedouin Christians are near extinction. The sights the sounds the richness must have been something to behold.
They took on the language because they were forced to at the end of a sword or gun, we have fought this for over 1400 years and we still fight this today.
N'importe quoi....ouvrez des livres d'histoire...les nord africains ont adopté l'islam et la langue arabe dans leur intérêt. ..les armées musulmanes ont été plusieurs fois défaites. ..et remplacées paor des nord africains, ,..qui ont fondé plusieurs empire, dont les fatimides (est algerie ) qui s'etendait jusqu'en Palestine
Just came across your channel for the second time and I have to say you are gradually convincing me to give up on Friday night plans altogether 😅 I'm pretty interested in all the subjects you treat here, particularly on Maghreb, Sahel and Francophone Africa. Lots of love from Brazil!
🤣🤣🤣 This has to be the best comment ever written on this channel! Friday night plans are indeed so overrated. Better spend 'em here for sure 😌 Thank you for your comment! I laughed ^0^
@@Sara-nw9rt there are plenty of pure arabs in morroco, and there is no suchthing as "Amazigh bIood" lmao, the so called "Amazigh people" aren't even related to eachother.
@@SarahHaddid where does pure arab located? There's no pure arab even in the middle east and you're telling me after a small number of them that came and mixed they can become pure?
I have been looking for an answer to that question for many years, as a Moroccans I am pretty sure that the Amazigh gens is more spread than the Arabic ones, however this fact don't stand when speaking of languages is. For example in Tangier of Marrakech most people have at least on Amazigh parent yet they don't speak their language as in my case. Probably 100% arabic moroccans exist in small numbers maybe between 10% to 20% of the population, because as you said the arab migration into Morocco is very small by numbers and could not demographically change the society. Which means most of Moroccans are originally Amazigh even if they don't speak the language.
I’m going to tell you a little story. I was travelling in the Atlas Mountains some time ago and I met a Moroccan couple from Casablanca. He was a native Tachelchit speaker from Tata and she was a native Darija speaker from the big city. When they spoke to each other, they obviously spoke in Darija. I love language learning and pretty much anything related to languages, so it is no wonder I ended up thinking: ‘Oh, if they have a child, the little one will end up unable to speak Tachelhit’. Why? Because being born in Casablanca will mean growing up in an environment where Darija dominates. Not because nobody speaks Tamazight, Tarifit or Tachelhit there (far from that), but rather because the city has become a melting pot of Moroccans coming from every corner of the kingdom and they will obviously resort to the lingua franca (i.e., Darija) when talking to each other. So, unless the father from Tata makes sure to compel the kid to talk back to him in Tachelhit (which won’t necessarily work since the parents will speak Darija to each other), it is likely the child won’t speak the language and their offspring won’t either… That’s how languages are killed. How many Moroccan or Algerian families experienced similar patterns? Countless ones, undoubtedly. And you apparently also belong to one of them. But it is not something specific to Morocco - of course not. It is a natural phenomenon that always happens in a multilingual environment: only the most widespread languages survive. As I said in my video about French in Africa, the rapid urbanization of the continent is unfortunately accelerating this pattern. As someone who’s so fond of languages, I regret it a lot. And would encourage anyone to preserve their languages whenever possible. Thank you for your comment!
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
I’m proud to be Muslim🤍from Libya 🇱🇾 ethnicy doesn’t matter Berbers Arabs Non-Arabs we’re All brothers in ISLAM We’re All Muslims ❤. Love to All Muslims around the world 🌎
Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said:"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety and good deeds.”❤
@@Koko70816 Islam does not encourage Arabization or cultural assimilation in the sense of imposing Arab culture or language on others. Islam is a universal religion that emphasizes faith, piety, and submission to Allah rather than cultural or ethnic identity. While Arabic is the language of the Qur'an and Islamic rituals, such as prayer, Islam teaches that no ethnic group, including Arabs, is superior to others. The Prophet Muhammad explicitly stated in his farewell sermon, "An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; a white person has no superiority over a black person, nor does a black person have any superiority over a white person, except by piety and good action." Islam embraces cultural diversity, as long as the practices within a culture do not contradict Islamic principles. The preservation of one's native language, customs, and traditions is respected, provided they are in harmony with the values of the faith. Thus, Islam promotes unity in belief and practice, not uniformity in culture or language.❤️
@@Koko70816 Islam is a global religion with followers from diverse ethnic, cultural, and geographical backgrounds. African, Amazigh, Arab, Asian, European, Latin American, and many other peoples all embrace Islam. This diversity is seen as a strength within the Islamic community, often referred to as the *Ummah*, which unites Muslims under shared faith, not ethnicity or race. The unity in Islam is built on the principle of *Tawheed* (the oneness of Allah) and the shared belief in the Qur'an and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad. This transcends cultural, racial, or national boundaries. Islam encourages mutual respect and the idea that piety and good deeds are the only things that truly differentiate individuals in the eyes of Allah.🤍
@@Rehab_203❤ Mashallah, well said! And ethnic/racial groups don't define us, what defines us is our most fundamental truth, worshipers/slaves of Allah. Just like everything in this universe, the trees, rocks, and all animals, we're slaves of Allah, His creations. We need to always embrace this truth.
Very sad, I am Algerian and Islam was forced on us. We had our own language, our own religion and our own ways. Now that I've left Islam and If I ever went back, I would be killed for leaving Islam. Sad that I will never be able to go home again.
Who has been killed for leaving Islam recently ? I know people from the Eglise protestante d Algérie who are apostate of islam. Their churches are closed, they can be imprisoned but I never hear of anyone having been killed.
Amazighs are ancient Arabs who moved from the peninsula to North Africa way before the tribes who moved after Islam. It's kind of cousins remeeting each other.
It's fascinating to think about how much of history is shaped by cultural fusion rather than just military conquests. The story of Arabization in the Maghreb reveals the intricate layers of identity, power, and language. The Amazigh weren’t simply “absorbed” into an Arab identity; they navigated the changing tides of rule by blending their customs with new influences. What I find especially intriguing is the idea that the lack of a unified Amazigh state left them vulnerable to linguistic shifts. Had they solidified earlier, we might be looking at a very different cultural map today. Arabization wasn’t inevitable-it was circumstantial.
The Republic of Indonesia is the largest Islamic country in the world, and clearly illustrates that being (what you call) "Arabized" is not an inevitable consequence of being "Islamized". Similarly Malaysia.
Most Indonesians like most Muslims in the world(except maybe the middle east) don't know what they are saying when they memorize the Quran. That's because they memorize it in Arab, and just take what their imam says as face value. If most knew what it was saying in the quaran. Most would not have converted to Islam. Also Indonesia I'm particular are having a greater increase of fundamentalist Muslims in their country because they are being arabized in due part by Saudi Arabia paying the bills to teach the Indonesian Muslim students true Islam. So my question to you is do you love Afghanistan culture because you're going to love how it will be in Indonesia in a few decades if the true practicing Muslims get into power. You might say "but that's not true Islam" But it is, Indonesia was just out of reach of the arabs military to get you, but the words of their merchants was able to convince the upper class and then revolt and turn into a Muslim majority country.
Thats too easy. As she explained in the video, the similarity of amazigh languages with arabic due to being in the same language family faciliated it for people to learn and adopt this new language, additionally there was a big migration of arabs to the region and a replacment of old elites in the cities and cultural centers with arabs. Those new rulers imposed rules that made both the conversion to islam and using arabic very beneficial. non of this happened or was even possible in Indonesia or Malaysia. The Arab armies couldnt reach you, there was no influx of Arabs and the languages are completely different.
@@maverick7291what? I am a Yemeni Muslim and most of us understand the quran but still love it and agree with it lol, the problem is not in the quran but your brain I guess
How egyptians, phenicians, cananaites, mesopotamians, yemenites became arab ? How anatlian became Turks ? How west salvic people became eastern german ?
Pan Arabism before used to advocate if you spoke Arabic and embraced the identity, then you are Arabic. Sadly this is changing with loss of that way of thinking. Now we are all busy with our own little problems
Banu Hilal migrations brought around 500,000 to 1,000,000 additional Arabs in 11th century. I'm surprised there is no mention of that, it would have impacted the demographics significantly.
@@SarahHaddid Pre-1900 world population growth was quite slow. Population of Maghreb in 1000 AD was over 5 million, so while this addition was substantial, they wouldn't suffice to make the majority.
“Banu Hilal migration” is mostly an exaggerated myth, pro-arabs try to use it as if it changed north africa when in reality it had little to no effect. The majority of them were killed and enslaved by the Almohads, arabization is mostly a colonial project that was pushed but the French and British. Before the 20th century arabism was way smaller in the Maghreb, it begin when the colonists were starting with the centralization of power and the installment of their puppet regimes that arabic was pushed as the lingua franca and the Amazigh population and their culture was getting marginalized.
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
@@lebladful when one speaks of North Africa the reliable historical record is not good. Most of the records were by people who had a vested interest in not telling the truth. Who is an indigenous person is very subjective. My non scientific examination of Mediterranean food shows everyone takes credit for the origin of dishes when only one can be the originator. Even DNA evidence is based on modern sampling, since we don't have contemporary live samples from prehistoric or even pre 20th century. What we have are theories based on the little evidence we have.
Devide and concur That’s the way of the west Talk is cheep but if you look at the historical evidence you will find that the people of the area came from Yaman 4500 years ago BC So stop trying to divide the people of Morocco and let them live in peace
We are independent Amazighs with our language and culture, and many of us still preserve it despite all the marginalization that has befallen us. No matter how long the time, the authentic will always remain authentic. Free peoples never die.
This video exclusively deals with the linguistic aspect.
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Berberic and old arabic languages share many words that you can only find now in berber language...it's widely believed that😮😂😂 the origins of berbers is east Mediterranean sea and Arab peninsula including yemen migrated thru the Mediterranean and etheopia and also from Egypt...so ethnically the are of Arab origins.
Berberic language is a slang of old arabic language which is the mother of Semitic languages...
Hebrew also is a slang of old arabic language😂
@@nofridaynightplans linguistic ? What is the linguistic origin of Berber language ?
@@Aladin-r8t
It descended from heaven????
Im a amazigh from the riff mountains of the city alhoceima. I can confirm that we are not arabized. We still speak our own language and have our culture.
Salam ayoma. ✌️
I grow up in nador but am from tinghir so I speak the both dialects of amazigh
@@abenqlf6359 wa alaikum sallam zi bni Bouayach 😁✌️
Warning. There is abvious propaganda driven in misrepresenting the antiquity period of North Africa. Dismissing the long lasted and string Numidia is suspicious. Similarly, western Numidia (labelled céder Ian Mauretania) has nothing to do with tangitine mauretania. I suspect the author is participating to the lying myth-building project of Morocco. Please beware
Then why people don't recognize it,but Arabic is recognized maybe you were colonize and reversed.A language define a people without your language who are you?
Absolutely not , we are not Arabs , we are Amazigh and speak our language, from Algeria with pride ,we fought to keep our identity
then stop speaking french or spanish.
Merci.
They can speak French or Spanish if they want to.
@@broximus4550 Speaking French & Spanish is more admirable than Arroubic (Syrian gypsy dialect spoken by those responsible for their Berber queen being beheaded, local languages disappearing, obvious cultural degradation, etc.) The negative consequences of even "tolerating" Arroub Supremacy in their land is so great that it is a testament to the mind-control aka *ummah spell* the pitiable North Africans are under.
@@mmgxo Arabic is the most superior language in existence, nothing come close to its eloquence, descriptive and poetry.
Nothing you can say will change that its an objective fact.
Also Arabs are a noble people, your slander only shows your own inferiority complex.
As an amazigh myself a Zenati. I confirm Arabs never arabized us, WE habe arabized ourselves and became more Arabic fanatics than Arabs. The first state who forced the population to convert to Islam and speak Arabic were the Almoravid dynasty who were Amazigh.
And it's not something strange to us. Seeing today how much we adore french and teach it to our kids, and speak French even in our bedroom. It's US.
To moroccans that are Arab or amazigh. Studies like these seek to seed devide and hatred. Dear Moroccans, I remember amazigh people are also in part of the semetic people. These studies are only published to spread divide and hatred.
Exactly
That's the best answer I saw in a long time
alhamdulillah for the arabs, they brought us greatness, unfortunately it didn't last forever
@adamelghalmi9771
Allah who brought Hidayah. Not Arabs. Arabs (the conquerors) had different goals.
@@adamelghalmi9771 they didn't brought us anything but Islam
The French also helped in the arabization process by making it the State language in Morocco. In fact, Tamazight was spoken by around 80% of the population, whereas, after the withdrawal of the French from Morocco, it had been reduced to around 60%
This is probably true when it comes to the modern institutions of the State (e.g., compulsary education) .But the Moroccan State has a long history and must have had a State language before that. It's impossible it was Amazigh in any way, shape or form since it is not a unified language (1) and most importantly none of the variations can serve as a literary language since they aren't written.
The linguistic issue in Morocco has mostly served the interests of the ruling class after independance since Arabic is the official language in schools, including for the native Amazigh speakers. Yet when entering universities, everyone is supposed to know French. Everyone was (is?) confused, hence all the powerful positions remain in the hands of the few. Great strategy for the ruling class but questionable choice for the people.
@@nofridaynightplans I agree with you. The language policy of Arabic and French mainly hurts Tamazight speakers. However, there were attempts to unify the language in the middle ages, but they largely failed, mainly due to the collapse of the Amazigh dynasties that were pushing them.
First time I've heard of these efforts. I'd be really grateful if you could share sources for me to read as the issue interests me a lot. Thank you!
@@nofridaynightplans the book is called Berbers and the Islamic State
Is the author Maya Shatzmiller?
I have to thank my algorithm for showing your video. Thank you for well in depth analysis
Me too! I have no idea how this popped up in my feed, but I'm glad it did!
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
Unbiased, informative and easy to follow.
Incredibly well presented. Very good balance of nuanced information without being overly simplistic all while remaining neutral on the topic and not making bold claims. Looking forward to seeing more like this :)
Thank you so much! Appreciated. It’s a complex issue and I learnt a lot too.
Just to be clear to you. The vast members of this "Amazigh movement" are ethnic Arabs who have Yemeni origin. The real amazigh are the Tuaregs (who speak the purest amazigh dialect). These arabs are highjacking the amazigh ldentity by appropriating the tuareg language and script as heritage if their own.
incredibly full of historic, anthropolgic and linguistic lies. An insult for every north afrixan. . worth reporting but let ignorance reign
@@moorishsociety7339 Zero Arroub$ were "from Yemen". They are originally from the Syrian Desert/edge of Mesopotamia. Squatting somewhere doesn't make you a local.
A great video! My Amazigh friends in San Francisco introduced me to the historic differences across North Africa. The centuries of unspeakable violence that characterized the entire Mediterranean since Antiquity have still not subsided. I wish so much self-determination was respected by and for everyone.
Very interesting and informative. You succintly (but yet in a very comprehensive way) presented quite a complex issue. I learnt a lot. Thank you.
Thank you - appreciated :)
@@nofridaynightplansleave us alone
Very chill and entertaining to watch at 2 am lol hope you're doing well and that your channel takes off 🎉
Thank you! Appreciated!
@@nofridaynightplansI speak Arabic and lived in Morocco, casablanca and Tanger, for a couple of years; and I do think that you yourself are of Moroccan descent. It's all there 😊
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
@@lebladful Do you have any suggested literature I could check out on the subject? I am genuinely curious in learning more about this history from the people themselves rather than from institutions and experts that trace their records back to arguably ongoing imperialist institutions.
As a Vietnamese guy whose dating an Algerian woman, I always give the analogy to curious MENA people that *Chinese vs. Vietnamese* are just like *Arabs vs. Berbers* or *Romans vs. Celts.*
One group conquered and influenced the other, but never fully "assimilated" them; as the latter still have their local "native" languages and customs.
Good take, it's always one ethnic group conquering another and trying to assimilate it to its culture and values.
You completely skip the history of fierce resistance. Am not familiar with the Chinese vs. Vietnamese history, but I doubt it can be compared to the other two: Romans vs. Celts/Celto-Germans, Germans laid the cornerstone for European supremacy because in the end Rome was sacked by the “Barbarians“. The Arabic conquering tactics (military invasion but as well treaties - Byzantine Egypt had not yet recovered from another Sassanian attack and Christian Nubia (Nobatia) were never conquered but the Arab armies were fiercely defeated & a treaty was required. Therefore, numerous events gradually weakened the power structure of the entire continent in the end. Despite Islam being widespread in Asia, the continent is not under Arabic domination.
It’s not the same amazighs are an African tribe of people Arabs are not from Africa they are from the Arabian peninsula… Arabs and Amazigh are not related peoples … eg Chinese and Vietnamese are orientals Romans are Latins celtics are not so there are no comparisons here …..
@@tahliah6691 100%, the real imazighens are the African tribes of Tuaregs and zenaga of senegal. These Yemeni Arabs are appropriating this amazigh ldentity and language from the Tuaregs. Even the script they use currently is directly copied from the Tuaregs.
@@tahliah6691Do you have any brains. Vietnamese is a different ethnic and linguistic group than chinese. Even I as an indian know that. There is even difference in genetics
I'm a light skin native berber indigenous from the southern of Morocco far from the anti atlas mountains by 200 klm but we can stell look at the beginning of the anti atlas mountains series from a far and is snowy from the very far distance my native berber tribe with other over 50 native berbers tribes all of them speak Tamazight language from the extent of 20 klm and most of the families of this tribes every married couple got over 5 kids to 8 kids the maximum and the anti atlas mountains there's over than 3300k berbers native tribes
That means you are of mixed blood, and not a true African. You have Arab and European blood. Light skin my foot!
@@Njoofene Israeli pfp is a weird race scientist, how surprising.
You are as lndigenous as the french and spanish settlers there. You're original homeland is Yemen, You settled in this area with Arabian expansion.
@@moorishsociety7339 the real moors are a northern Moroccan berber tribe not arabs
@@moorishsociety7339 secondly no we berbers have nothing to do with yemen we literally are more related to sami people of sweden than to Yemenites
Thanks for that video. I've learned so many things.
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
Really interesting topic with great coverage!
Wow, what an amazingly informative video!
I’d really like to get some more insight. I’m working on animating African history around the 13th century (mainly the fall of the Ghana empire and rise of Mali mixed with their complex relationship with the Amazigh and Arabs. Great video❤
Amazing work ! Thank you.
Amazigh* work wink wink
we need a huge financial support to revive and preserve the amazigh language
also thank for shedding light on the matter
You will fail. The language is going so is the culture. You are now Arabs, just accept it. The Black African are the only true Africans left.
You find they aren't well preserved? I find the opposite (at least in Morocco, the only Maghreb country I know extremely well. The other being Tunisia, but never met any Amazigh language speaker there). From Bin el Ouidane to Sidi Kaouki, Imlil to Tafraoute, Aourir to Tata, you'll mostly hear Tachelhit. I don't even mention the Rif Mountains (different language there but still).
The thing with Amazigh is that it is not only one language. There are many variations within that language family, which means that anyone from Ouirgane in Al Haouz will always resort to darija when visiting the Rif. That's why the linguistic issue in the Maghreb is a real headache.
As for the Modern Standard Tamazight now taught in Moroccan schools, I must say I'm not convinced. This is an artificial language that has nothing in common with what people speak at home. I find it quite odd to be honest.
Thank you for your comment!
P.S.: to preserve languages, passion is a good start :)
@@nofridaynightplans no it isn't well preserved not in Morocco or any north African country tamazight isn't even thought in schools and was only considered an official language till 2011 and the government faced a lot of critiques from pan arabist and islamist constitutions and it still is to this day you can't even name your children amazigh name but rather Arabic name where the hell is freedom and acceptance of cultures???
, arabization really hurt the roots of north Africa and I say that as a Moroccan
@@NjoofeneAnd the poorest ones too.
@@Galbaudix Arrubization is THE enemy, that is what I keep trying to explain to the (abundantly dense to put it politely) North Africans online. There was even a woman named "Amazigh Lionness" who legit said that Islam saved North Africa from paganism, so it was "worth it" to be conquered. Yes the same conquering that involved beheading their Berber queen and displaying her in Syria for all to see. The not so bright woman then disappeared once I reminded her that Indonesia didn't need Arrubization to adopt Islam. Go figure.
Liked, commented and subscribed. Excellent work❤
Thank you for posting.
Watching internal always feels like having you really interesting discussion with a wise, old friend. 😊 Love this videos, also because they tell me a lot of stories about languages and regions that I usually don't hear about. Please, please do make more of these!
I find it hilarious that my first encounter with this channel is on a Friday night when I don't have plans aside from sleeping 😂
Met people from North Africa over the years and first thing they usually say is something along the lines of “we aren’t called berbers that’s a slur, we are Amazigh” met people who can speak the Amazigh language also who have explained to me that the “L” and “R” sounds are similar to English which made the language easier for them to learn. They don’t identify as Arabs and Arab people seem to view them as different, according to my friends
i identify as an arab, even if i am not arab ethnically and i speak an amazigh dialect as a dual language with arabic
Thank you bro. Proud amazigh
Nice video good job
Excellent video, thank you very much
Thank you so much. I admire Amazigh culture and I am always keen to learn more.
There are Amazighs in Mali too.
Great video! I loved the thorough narration of the historical events. One remark however, as an Amazigh Kabyle from Algeria, i think you could've made the video longer if you addew that the post-European colobiql history of arabization and berber identity as it didn't stop at the migration of Bedouin arabs into the area, in fact, in the case of Algeria, the role of the post-independance gov played a huge role in the linguistic and ethnic dynamics especially since it was ruled for 2 decades by the pan-Arabist Boumediene-led FLN government. Boumediene effectively denigrated the assimilation of Berbers into algerian identity (especially Kabyles whom made up nearly a third of the national population, this defacto illegalization of the language made the prospects of arabization futher becoming al obligation, which culminated in the Berber Spring. Kabyle and Berber identities at large did recover, but the holdover from that period can still be felt, as you still have people who are visibly berber or of amazigh descent claiming that they "came from Yemen"
Thank you for this interesting contribution. I'll do better next time :) This could be a good topic for a subsequent video. All the best to you.
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
Congrats for this very interesting and informative video.
As an amazigh i'd like to confess that we're really good at learning other languages like in morocco speaking 5 or 4 languages is normal and we can easily adapt with foreigns but unfortunately we lack to be proud of our origins. We always protect ourselves and fight invaders but in the bottom of our hearts we admire the foreigns who conquered them and then we slowly turn to those invaders by time and for exemple the arabisation that you talked about and i wish that will change in the future and to recognize ourselves as a nation and not clinging to other nations like romans or arabs or the french
most arab speakers are arabo-berbers who chose arabic through generations
like the celts chose FRENCH in France !
This is very easy to observe from an Ethiopian perspective. But honestly, where in Africa are any groups as proud as Horners?! We are clearly not common Africans, as offensive as that sounds, it is so true. We have a Puntite lineage to be proud of, a warrior tradition, and not even coastal Egypt/Sudan Cushitic groups could EVER be conquered by Arab$ - when their fat asses only discovered the Red Sea not so long ago (they are not indigenous to Arabia & came from Syrian Desert). I have even seen Arab$ telling other people that we are "partly related to them" lmao in their inbred dreams.
Gtfoh with miss information....you Ethiopians are like morrocans like op said.youd be quick to grasp at any Arab lineages than any pure africanes.hell if I called you African you'd feel insulted😂😂that's how low esteem u got.@@mmgxo
@@mmgxo Ok, I love your Ancient African pride cause I share it even as an African American, but what in the world is a common African? People of African blood should stick together and support each other so to divide us (as many Ethiopians have been accused of by other Africans) does not help our cause to stand up to conquerors of every nation. Love and peace to you my honourable sister.
@mmgxo no Arabs want you to be related to them , your Ethiopia became to be known thanks to yemenite arabic people who invaded your lands 1000 BC , introduced you to their languages, their writings , and founded Axum , among other things ,... as a matter of fact there are still many tribes in Ethiopia running half-naked, you only need google to see that .
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Lies, Amazigh are Algerians and native to Algeria, morroco is not amazigh, only few people of the north as it belonged to Algeria, Numedia ( Algeria today) used to own all of north africa, morrocans are a mixture of immigrants from senegal and yemenite jews, and the north used to be its own land, it got colonised in the 70's along side sahara occidental, the cities od morrocan are no more than 800 years old and it was Algerian civilizations who created them: the Mohahid, the Zenatti, the Merinides, the wattassi, the saadinite...they named them and they were the ones who built their historical monuments, the country of morroco didn't exist until 1910 it was hubert Lieuté a french lieutenant who created it and put a random guy as a king over it, everything traditional in morroco including: cuisine, clothing, sewing, broderie, potterie...is Algerian, Algerians are the ones who taught them everything they know today, and they're still learning, Amazigh date way back then 9 bc by thousands of years, shishnak an Algerian amazigh took even the throne in Egypt and became a pharaoh, and they don't come from Phoenician's, its their own kind, in fact they found that their language tifinagh is the oldest written language in the world, it was found carbed on a rock, same for Tunisian they're immigrants from Lebanon
Thank you. Your support is greatly appreciated. I would just like to indicate that this channel explores a wide variety of topics on languages and is not exclusively dedicated to North Africa. I was truly eager to try to understand why some people tend to abandon their languages in favour of another and made this video with this objective in mind.
Thank you for your kind comment. All the best to you.
Morocco is SOOO beautiful! You're great! I love history & you made it so simple to understand
Tunisian-Moroccan Berber here...and proud♥️ DNA is 75% North African. And some Andalous & Italy.
No arab precentage.
You can be proud of that
your dna is 80% Arab
Congratulations!!
Same iam 80% berber with some Iberian too
Which proves her colonial narrative is nonsense
Many don't understand that since Arabic is a semitic language berbers could easily learn it.
The benefits of knowing Arabic in many areas is that many tribes had different dialects that were very almost non-mutually intelligible. So in order to understand each other either one tribe had to learn the dialect of the other tribe they are dealing with or the opposite. Since there were not just 2 but more tribes with different dialects Arabic was very useful in that way that it helped that everyone understood each other. Same also counts for Middle Eastern countries like Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon where Assyrian, Aramaic and other languages where spoken that whose respectively language systems where not unified.
Since at the time of the so called "Arabization" process there were also Arabs among the people in those countries and through the Golden Age of Islam where Islam taught in Arabic and the quran was used as a standard Arabic reference book, people used Arabic as a language to communcate with each other.
Since Arabic was at that time relatively standarzised it offered also in this part of the region benefits.
So although there could be some forced Arabization it was never done systematically.
Arabic just offered in those times benefits what other languages didn't and since it is a semitic language it was adopted by other Semitic language speaking tribes (like Assyrians) as their language of choice.
This process was a gradual process of course.
English offers a similar example. Many people around the world use it today to understand other language speaking persons. In Amsterdam for example you can live without speaking any Dutch just by speaking English. Dutch people can also learn English relatively fast since Dutch and English hare many similarities.
Arab bedouins did not arabize Amazigh people because Arab bedouins were slaughtered by the Marinids, arabization of some tribes is ascribed to arab bedouin women enslaved by the Marinids.
just some poor riyahids in morocco, actually the marinids were brutally crushed in 1347 in kairouan by the bedouins read about it, and they also get defeated by the bedouins in eastern algeria and in tlemcen in 1369, cope harder ,no way women can arabize an entire tribe and also WOMP WOMP RIO DE SALADO 1340 and don't forget your princesses were captured by the arabs and the spaniards
Great work
This is a true historical narrative, thank you.
Arabised? Lmfao are you serious. Call it colonization, just as you would if any other group had done it. The Berbers have forgotten their own language and now pray to another people's god. They were colonized. Call it what it is.
Not all Berbers have forgotten their own language, but yeah it's a colonisation.
The Berbers were conquered, then willingly accepted the truth of Islam, then they rebelled against their conquerors, then they themselves became conquerors taking over places like Iberia and West Africa. There is only one God and he is everyone's God, just that some are too arrogant to believe.
And as someone who actually lives in North Africa, I can assure you that they did not forget their language 💪🇲🇦
I think colonization refers to like exploiting the resources and not becoming natives(?) of that land? For example the Europeans colonized USA even when it had racially European people. Replacing almost the entire population by Arab is Arabization. It's like Christians colonized the Nordic countries while infact it was actually Christianized. I am being respectful and I expect civilized discussions regarding this.
@@Ani-13-w8d Arabisation happened when Arab language and culture was spread in North Africa, the native population was absolutely not replaced by Arabs because it was impossible even if Arabs wanted to and because Berbers are still the majority of people until this day.
@@ahmedsalek976 It still doesnt make it colonization tho I dunno what point you wanted to make. It's the same with other cultural process too like the Turkification of Central Asia. The culture is deeply Arabized and Islamized too though some ofthe countries are majority. Also this is an excerpt from Wikipidea:
Ethnically, Berbers comprise a minority population in the Maghreb. Berbers comprise 15% to 25% the population of Algeria, 10% of Libya, 31%to 35% of Morocco, and 1%of Tunisia. Berber language speakers in the Maghreb comprise 30% to 40%[better source needed] of the Moroccan population, and 15%to 35%[better source needed] of the Algerian population. The sources are given in the original page and they are nowhere near majority which is kinda sad. You can check the references here :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbers#Contemporary_demographics
It is worth mentioning that Turkey itself was "turkified", with the arrival of turkic peoples to Anatolia which was previously populated by other indigenous people such as the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, etc.
Thanks for this comment - gives me ideas for the future.
Not only turkiye also same situation with USA, AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND
@@maddymax9359Yep, it’s pretty much the same…
Greeks are not indigenous people of Anatolia. The Anatolian nations were the indigenous people. Hittites, Lydians, Karians, Lykians etc. These nations were speaking Anatolian languages (such as Luwian) not Greek. Greek came from the other side of Aegean sea and Hellenised the whole Anatolia, with trade colonies first and later by conquest. I am really surprise a few people know about this. Similarly, Assyrian are not orginally from Anatolia. They spread via Assyrian Empire's extensive conquests.
@ Fair point. But that still doesn’t justify what happened to these groups living there when the process of assimilation began.
Great video. Subscribed to your channel.
Thank you for the support :)
Merci pour ce vidéo.... C'était très intéressant et j'ai appris beaucoup!
J'adore l'histoire....
Well done, thank you!!
this is better than that history and geography("tarikh o ljoghrafia") program they taught us when we were young. Thank you miss, you made my night. I'm currently writing a fantasy book inspired by our culture, history and folklore(Moroccan mostly) and... well this is very intriguing and useful. I think you should do more of these!
Thank you very much for this comment, which I find particularly gratifying. I wish you a lot of joy and success (whatever this may be for you) in your endeavour.
very relevant and interesting informations on this still sensitive topic
Makes me so excited to be recommended a woman creator that touches on my favorite topics woohoo here is to many many more followrs , engagement and ad revenue !! Shukran
Lol, how great would that be indeed. Thank you for the kind words :)
Very interesting and informative 👍👍
Would you please provide the references you use for your videos🙏
Have you tried checking this great (and yet seldom aknowledged) place called the description box? ;) Could find interesting things there!
@@nofridaynightplans actually, I didn't. I just came across your channel yesterday! And I haven't checked or browsed all your stuff yet! Thank you 🙏
Just to be clear, I meant the description box under the video (not the description of the channel). Thank you for visiting and supporting with your kind comments.
@@nofridaynightplans yeah. I know! Keep up your Great work 👍
@@nofridaynightplans Are you American?
Nice video. I see Pakistanis trying to arabise (and also anglicise) themselves and its so cringe. We arent white, we arent arab.
Somalia right again..
@@shafsteryellow Somalia will never be Arrub. Do not even mention it, so disturbing to even fathom.
Your problem is that Pakistanis are fanatical followers of an Arab cult of an Arab man. One that freezes you in the customs and mores of the 7th century.
You have the eternal and unalterable word of Allah and you have a "perfect" man to slavishly follow and emulate. You are forced to believe that on pain of an unpleasant and painful end.
That sucks. You are the slave of a harsh master, not a loving father and your perfect messenger was s€× obsessed pdf.file who married a 6 year old baby, the wife of his adopted son. A warrior who, with his own hands or sword, unalived countless people. A man who had no qualms to make and trade slaves.
The list of his imperfections and immorality is very long.
Be better than that.
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
@@mmgxo did you understand what I said
As a Moroccan Oujdi from a mix arab amazigh descent I find your video very informative and precise.
I want to add that "Arab" is an ethnolinguistic identity, just like being jew is an ethno religious identity. Which means that arabs since the beginning were ethnically diverse and binded by language.
That's why, historicaly we find many categories for arabs, either Geographicaly or socially like qedarites arabs (north semitic Arabs) and qahtani arabs (Afro-Asiatic people) While both groups identify as arabs.
So, yeah in a sense, Moroccans were arabized both culturally and linguistically so it's quite normal for many to identify as arabs and that shouldn't be considered wrong likewise identifying as pure amazigh.
Fun fact, we talk about berber arabization but many don't know about arab amazighation. Many arab tribes in my area (migrated in the late XVIII century) have fully assimilated into amazigh culture and many think they are berber tribes while "ethnically" they are arabs.
So in Morocco we had this weird exchange 😅
This is the best observation I've seen in these comments so far. Very accurate and open-minded. When you said some of the Arabs were actually drawn into the indigenous culture and today think they're Berbers or Moors.. I knew you knew what this videos isn't saying.
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
This channel is exsclusively about languages. I don't discuss ethnicities. It's clearly stated on the first image of the video: arabised = Arabic became the main language in the region. The question that interests me is: why have some people abandoned their languages while others have not? It's unfortunate few people actually pay attention to what is being said.
Who knows people's ethnicity anyway? North Africans are bound to be among the most ethnically diverse individuals on the planet...
@@nofridaynightplans That is a good focus, furthermore culture is at least 60-70% Language. If the language vanishes, most of the culture vanishes.
The arab tribe bit id very missleading because it's false
Thank you for making my continuing education more interesting and rewarding. And free lol
nice video im glad youtube recommended you to me
Thank you for visiting the channel :)
Thanks for this video. Love from an amazigh from Melilla living in Fuerteventura. Tagraula!
It is not called invasion, I am Algerian. I do not care about being barbare or Arab, I am a Muslim, and that is all that matters.
By the way, Amazigh is son kanaan, kanaan are Arabs. Therefore, we go back to square one.
Whether we are Arabs or barbar we all Muslims Alhamdulillah.
There is no room for divide to concur.
Mohammed was a pedophile cult leader and Islam was imposed on you by the sword. Yet you seems proud of it.
*You are wrong ! Amazigh are the descendants of Ham (حام) and Ham is the father of Berbers and Africans*
@@andreslebon3869 *algerians are not smart*
@@andreslebon3869you are really a 🤡
Kra2372 Your reasoning is 100% true. Berberists do not like this truth.
Islamization accompanied by Arabization have also affected other regions a little further south of the Maghreb such as Sudan and Chad. If you can produce a video as exciting and instructive as this one, it would be TOP
Great idea - thank you.
@@B.TIIGER now we have pitch black Sudanese brothers call themselves Arab🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
an other nonsense, Arabs migrated to those places taking their language with them. People in that Area speak Arabic because they have Arab ancestors. Why don't you talk about Anglization of America ?
@@wambokodavid7109 Being Arab is about tribal and lineage connection, not about a skin tone similarity. 🤡🤡
@@wambokodavid7109sure...Arabs concqured our brothers
Fascinating and informative video! Subscribed!
Leave us alone ✡️🤥
Amazing video! I've been thinking about this topic for a long time, thank you.
Well-explained and insightful
About 40% of Persian literature is Arabic words ,,, and the Turkish language is a mixture of Persian, Arabic, and French ,,, and the French language is a product of Gallo-Romance dialects , while English is a product of Old English, Danish, Norse, and French, and has been changed by Latin, Greek, Arabic , Chinese, Hindi, Japanese, Dutch and Spanish, along with some words from other languages .
Ok…? 🤔
Most languages are influenced by other languages. That’s just common sense and it’s something that’s going to happen naturally. Even Tamil and Korean have many similar words… due to supposed ancient history, with an Indian princess marrying a Korean ruler, or something. But if you look at international borders, regional accents of different languages, and different cultural traditions, they flow and influence one another, and change gradually as one travels. For example, if you traveled west from Japan all the way to the Iberian Peninsula, you’d see influence and interchange between borders. Or if you went from India north through Siberia, look at all the regions and how they flow into each other. Japan flows into China, Korea, and East Asia, and vice versa. China flows into the Central and West Asian cultures, which are also influenced by Russians to the north and Persians and Arabs to the south, and Turkic peoples, too. The Middle East and Levant flows into Anatolia, which flows into the Balkans, which flows into the Adriatic, which flows into Italy, which flows into the south of France, which flows into Spain and Portugal. You could literally look at hundreds of scenarios like this. So yeah, languages are always influenced by their neighbors or "colleagues".
@@erikm8372Marrying the princess is not the correct Statement. Tamils live in the coast. And near the coast they would trade a lot. A lot of buddhist monks from India would visit foreign people and vice versa which resulted in several shared words b/w each other. It's dumb how people almost always forget trade influence
Lol...what a soup !!!
Primordial soup...but turkish is not what you mentioned above ...turkish is a horse of a different color...
Kalimera from kalamata
Shah tried to purificate the Persian language from Arab and and Turkic borrowings by exchanging them to the native Persian from Middle Persian Sassanid period. But you've got so called Islamic Revolution and all tryings came to an end.
Turkish is a mixture of Arabic, Persian and French? The frequent use of Arabic or Persian words in daily language may mislead those who don't know Turkish, but for this expression to be correct, each of them must constitute at least one third of Turkish. However, at least 80% of Turkish vocabulary is original Turkic. That's why even today we can easily understand the vast majority of Turkic texts written 1500 years ago, and we can communicate without a translator with the Yakuts who speak their own Turkic language in Siberia, thousands of kilometers away from us.
A very interesting video and I can see some parallels with my own country, England. We too had ancient Phoenicians, Greeks and Romans arriving here. The Romans stayed for nearly 400 years, but as in the case of the Amazigh left very little genetic or linguistic evidence because the people continued to speak Brythonic. However, in the 5th century AD, Angles and Saxons arrived and they did change the spoken language into what was to become English. So as in the case of the Amazigh, why did they adopt Arabic and why did the Britons adopt a germanic language yet neither changed their language to Roman previously ? It was thought in England that the Anglosaxons had completely taken over and killed all the Brythonic speakers. However, with modern genetic tests showed that the majority of the population didn't change only the language, but why ? I think the answer could be very similar to what you have said about the Amazigh.
Extremely interesting comment, for which I thank you very much. Will definitely look into the matter when time allows!
Just Study amazigh languages and Use them again ...
Hebrew was extinct for many centuries and it's now spoken by millions of natives .
Viva imazighen .
Why don't you revive etruscan, Aequian or somesort instead of fabricating artifical language and state inside arabs homeland. Are we free experimenting subjects to you ?
natives of what? they are europeans
@@joahua122 incorrect. Not all Jews are European in origin
@@SarahHaddid the difference between those langauge and amazighs is that a huge fraction of north africans in Morocco and Algeria still speak it as a first languages
Palestine is not the home land of the Jewish people -- its the land of Canaanites ( the Roman called it Palestine ) thankfully the discovery of 4500 year old Canaanites graves have been genetically studied it turned out that they are genetically closer to Arabs including Palestinians by contrast most Jews are genetically related to non Semitic population such as Europeans especially Italians and Kurds and Persian and Turks ( a small minority of Mideast Jews are genetically related to Canaanites and Arabs ) most of the world Jews are Ashkenazi Jews they are mostly Europeans who either converted or migrated to Europe from Anatolian and mixed with European women thus the strong links with Italians , the Levant which includes Palestine witnessed through its history migration from Anatolia and Persia into the Levant due to instability in Anatolia , modern examples are the Maronite Christians who migrated to Lebanon and Syria fleeing the Byzantines prosecution in Anatolia or the Druze both immigrated from Anatolia to the Levant , and finally the Kurds in Syria who migrated to Syria fleeing Ataturk regime and fled from Iran to Syria fleeing the Shah regime in addition to economic Kurdish migrants in farms in Syria , in short the vast majority of Jews in Israel are certainly not native to Palestine if they were they would have strong genetic links to the native Canaanites yet they have strong links to non Semitic groups .
فيديو متعوب عليه جدا
شكرا على المعلومات , و باعتباري عربيا امازيغيا ,استفدت كثيرا حول معرفة تاريخ اجدادي
مستعرب + امازيغي
Arap wannabe
@@tygbs
كلها مجرد اسماء حبيبي
كلنا بني ادم
+ اذا ولد البشر على القمر , فهل يعتبرون بشرا ؟
نعم , لذا لا يهم المكان الذي تتواجد به او ولدت به لتكون لديك هوية معينة
فمثلا انا رغم كوني امازيغيا , لكني لا تحدث الامازيغية بطلاقة و لا اعرف تقاليد اجدادي كلها , بل اللغة العربية و ثقافتها هي التي ترعرت معها
First time that I've seen you - very impressive presentation on a subject I know very little about.
Excellent talk, I don't know if you're familiar with Frank Herbert's DUNE but I was told that Fremen is a direct translation of Freeman in one of the Berber languages. How true would you say this is?
That's an interesting question. Unfortunately, I cannot answer. I don't know any of the Amazigh variations :) However, there are many speakers in the comments. Maybe try your luck with one of them?
I noticed some kind of similarities with english, but who knows, like imagine in Arabic " Earth " is "ard" same as english, and earth isn't a borrowed word from Arabic as Giraffe or alcohol or else but it's an old english and germanic word, and same for Arabic "Ard" is an old word.
I believe "Fremen" comes from "Free men", which is the meaning of the term Amazigh, and not from an Amazigh word
The combination of history and language is highly interesting and educational.
Thanks for your immense work. I appreciate it highly.
Thank you for your kind words Carola. I also find this combination interesting! I must say I learn a lot too ^.^ All the best!
Great video on a great topic that is seldom discussed. TY (immediate and enthusiastic subscription, of course).
I beg to disagree with you on Latin only spreading to Indoeuropean areas: many non-Indoeuropeans were also very strongly Latinized (Etruscans, Ligurians, Sardinians, Corsicans, Iberians and Tartessians at the very least), while some remote Indoeuropeans like the Britons retained their language until today (Welsh). In North Africa we know that the Latinization of the former Phoenician cities was quite strong and that at least the elites spoke Latin regularly, for example Septimius Severus (the first not-really Italian Roman Emperor, who had an accent anyhow) or Augustin of Hippo, whose texts show that North African Latin had the same "betacist" tendency (confusing "v" and "b") as Iberian one (Omniglot had a good video on that). Latin linguistic hegemony continued under the Vandals and Byzantines (who had not yet shifted to Greek as official language) but was of course limited to whatever the actual borders of Africa province were.
As for foreign arrivals through history a key marker is Y-DNA J2, which may signal Semitic or even Roman immigration (J2 was spread into West Europe mostly by Roman settlement for sure but in North Africa is more likely to signify Phoenician or Arab inflow, I guess), Turkish settlement would also be associated. Asmahan Bekada, Lara R. Arauna et al. ("Genetic Heterogeneity in Algerian Human Populations", PLoS ONE 2015) found only very low frequencies of this outsider lineage in Algeria, concentrated in Algiers (6% in one sample, 0% in the other) and Oran (5% in one sample, 1% in the other), elsewhere it was absent. An older study from the same main author (Asmahan Bekada et al., "Introducing the Algerian Mitochondrial DNA and Y-Chromosome Profiles into the North African Landscape", PLoS ONE 2013) found (table S6) 5% J2 in Algeria, 3% in Tunisia (surprisingly low IMO), 1% in Morocco and 0% in Libya. All this supports what you said in the video about the small figures of the various invader groups, especially the Arabs.
Best wishes from the Basque Country.
Thank you so much for this very informative comment! I sincerily appreciate it. The study I read indicated that Latin had tended to take root on IE substrates, while it was the opposite for Arabic. But it's interesting to know that non-IE peoples were indeed latinised. I don't know much, not to say anything at all, about the genetics of the people you mentioned, but thank you for sharing the information.
@@nofridaynightplans - I concur that IE peoples, most of them of the same Celto-Italic stock as the Latins, would have been more easily assimilated not just in language but in culture by the Romans but the Etruscans and the Iberians/Tartessians were more civilized and that's also a gateway by which the overall Roman civilization (and language) penetrated, following on the steps of the more modest Phocaean Greek colonies (Marseilles notably, very adept at befriending the Iberians and Ligurians and bumping heads with the Phoenicians and Celts).
The Iberians and ancient Sardinians were Vasconic (i.e. related to Basques and descendants from mainline European Neolithic peoples of Anatolian roots) for sure, the Ligurians probably too but there is debate for lack of evidence, the Tartessians are a mystery but definitely pre-Indoeuropean. The Etruscans were a very different group (Tyrsenians, also documented in Lemnos), probably from the Aegean, also pre-Indoeuropean and were key in the formation of Rome, which they ruled for a long time and gave many cultural elements, including the precursor of this very Latin alphabet we're using.
A phonetic fact that may have ever so slightly helped with Latinization in the case of Vasconic peoples is the shared five vowel system. Most Romances have now diverged from that but Spanish (Castilian) notably retains it very well (save for long vowels not anymore in use) and that's surely because it has strong Basque influence. Some ancient Roman whose name I can't recall said that the Aquitanii (as Basques were known in those days) spoke a very good Latin, while in Rome apparently almost everyone did it wrongly. This may have been because of similar phonetics, I guess.
But the main factor is IMO how strongly were the Romans invested in each province and district. Places like Baetica (Andalusia), where Italian colonization was very strong (about 20% of Andalusian ancestry seems to be Roman/Italian) Latin surely became dominant very quickly, while in remote areas like Mauretania, Britain or NW Spain/SW France, that Latin education was surely limited to the elites at best. In North Africa there must have been a strong distinction between Africa Province, especially the Phoenician cities, and Mauritania and other relatively remote areas, where Roman domination was lax and perceived as distant.
@@LuisAldamiz Very interesting. Would you have recommended sources to share about the pre-IE history of Iberians? Many thanks!
@@nofridaynightplans - I used to have a blog on the wider issues of prehistory, population genetics and general anthropology, which has some articles and references on the matter and others. However nowadays posting any links at YT comments seems to be totally shadow-censored (i.e. your comment seems to go through and then vanishes, sometimes you can even get "spam" warnings). In my experience even naming the blog (which absolutely legit and hosted by Blogger, i.e. Alphabet, the same company that owns YT) results in the same kind of shadow-censored. So I'll give you the details (no links) in separate replies you might be able to read as notification but will almost certainly be deleted anyhow.
@@nofridaynightplans - Search for a blog called "For what they were... we are" and, once there, search for "ancient Iberians" or something like that. There's a chronological index at the bottom right but it's many years long.
Searching for "Sardinians" or "Basque origins" should also produce interesting results. Cheers.
Great video, thanks for making it!
so informative.
One of the best (and most uncommon) things about UA-cam is when you come across a video that addresses a topic that you've wondered about for a long time. Ever since I learned (some 45-50 years ago) that north Africa was populated by "Arabs" (and that this is apparently the reason everyone separates "sub-Saharan Africa" from North Africa), I've wondered why this is, how far back it went that these people were known as Arabs. I remember watching Anwar Sadat on television and trying to figure out if he "looked" Arab. In short, this topic has been in the back of my mind for a long time. I hoped someday that a little missing piece of a jigsaw puzzle would fall into place, answering this old question of mine.
But alas, it was not to be. Young Miss No Friday Night Plans, while doing an expert job at addressing this question, also made it clear there was no one moment when the Berbers became Arabs. History is messy, and this story was messy, and so while I found no joy in learning the answer, I do take comfort at now being a bit more knowledgeable than I was. Thank you.
Thank you for your comment and support - appreciated. The main point of the video is to determine why some, here North Africans, abandoned their languages in favor of another. As I specify in the video, arabised is to be understood as "a region where Arabic became the dominant language". North Africans are bound to be among the most ethnically diverse peoples on the planet for objective historical reasons.
An acquaintance of mine used to say that, despite being Chleuh and thus a native speaker of Tachelhit, he was proud to be an "Arab" because being Arab is defined as "having an excellent command of the Arabic language". This was the main motto of Panarabism. In this video, I have stated the objective historical reasons why the Amazigh tribes usually favored Arabic in the development of their State tradition. It is unfortunate this whole comment section has turned into a feud in favor of one ethnic group against another.
Thank you again for your support.
They: How berbers become Arabs?
Me: Thanks to Muslims.
Many don’t know about the Arab/Muslim conquest
because it was done in peace with the rules of war, these who started the hostilities were berbers there were not that many casualities though it was only a few, the muslims never harmed any innocents unlike the christians did, not long after islam spread to our lands we became the greatest nations in history, we established ourselves in Spain and southern France and spread peace and prosperity there by the will of Allah. Christianity and European enslaved and genocided us. Islam raised us!
When Islam came to Egypt for example, even Copts welcomed it because it lifted many oppressive measures set by the previous occupiers. The only thing that the Muslim conquests usually change is the ruling political system; the populace is free to practice its religion and its property and economic rights stay unchanged and are protected. You should read about how Jerusalem was conquered, the top Christian officials were asked to leave and carry whatever they needed with them, no bloodshed, no stealing of property.
Invasion. And my ancestors were forced to accept this nonsense religion to stay alive.
We’re All Connected!!
Thank you for the video! any other video on Tamazight language and Amazigh identity in Morocco?
I don't know what the future holds. I treat subjects that interest me and I'm interested in a wide variety of topics ^.^
@@nofridaynightplans okay, Good luck!
The most logical reason is religion, amazigh chose to be Muslims and speaking Arabic is essential because Coran is written in Arabic and also prayers are in Arabic.
Yes, but many countries are muslim and have arabic as a second language, no need to abandon it. If it were like that then why did God create THEIR language? I don't think it's a valid reason, but you might be right.
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
@@lebladfulSanjaha are not of West Asian origin. There have been scattered pre-Islamic micro migrations from Western Asia to North Africa but archeological finds have proven the indigenous presence of Sanhaja dates back to the Neolithics. Matter of fact, Sahraouis are specifically of Sanhaja ancestry. I also carry some Asian dna, but that doesn’t mean I‘m of Asian origin.
„Chose to be Muslim“. Then explain the Kharijite revolt which defeated the Umayyad rule. Explain how & whySālih ibn Tarīf formed an indigenous Amazigh branch of Islam where the teaching were written & taught in Tamazight. This was a reaction to being treated as inferior by Arabs despite having converted to Islam & playing an essential role in spreading & establishing the faith. The indigenous new Islam based religion lasted for almost 3 centuries until it was annihilated by the Almoravids.
@@Koko70816chose ?? That is why hundreds of thousands of women were sent to the Middle East to be sold as sex slaves according to Islamic heritage. Or maybe those are not important to you ?
7:40 awesome drawing… I have to wonder what that life was like. From what I've read Bedouin Christians are near extinction. The sights the sounds the richness must have been something to behold.
They took on the language because they were forced to at the end of a sword or gun, we have fought this for over 1400 years and we still fight this today.
N'importe quoi....ouvrez des livres d'histoire...les nord africains ont adopté l'islam et la langue arabe dans leur intérêt. ..les armées musulmanes ont été plusieurs fois défaites. ..et remplacées paor des nord africains, ,..qui ont fondé plusieurs empire, dont les fatimides (est algerie ) qui s'etendait jusqu'en Palestine
Great vid, I learn with the maps better, which I appreciate. My little grand tour never got me into this much depth, very interesting.
Just came across your channel for the second time and I have to say you are gradually convincing me to give up on Friday night plans altogether 😅 I'm pretty interested in all the subjects you treat here, particularly on Maghreb, Sahel and Francophone Africa. Lots of love from Brazil!
And languages, of course 😂
🤣🤣🤣 This has to be the best comment ever written on this channel! Friday night plans are indeed so overrated. Better spend 'em here for sure 😌
Thank you for your comment! I laughed ^0^
@@nofridaynightplans je t'en prie ! ^^
im an arab morrocan, bro our amazigh people are okay and still speaking their language and doing their traditions freely, nothing changed.
There is no fully arab im Morocco we are all mixed you will definitely find amazigh blood
@@Sara-nw9rt there are plenty of pure arabs in morroco, and there is no suchthing as "Amazigh bIood" lmao, the so called "Amazigh people" aren't even related to eachother.
@@SarahHaddid where does pure arab located? There's no pure arab even in the middle east and you're telling me after a small number of them that came and mixed they can become pure?
@@Sara-nw9rtWE are Not amazigh
@@SoumayaMounija what are we?
I have been looking for an answer to that question for many years, as a Moroccans I am pretty sure that the Amazigh gens is more spread than the Arabic ones, however this fact don't stand when speaking of languages is. For example in Tangier of Marrakech most people have at least on Amazigh parent yet they don't speak their language as in my case. Probably 100% arabic moroccans exist in small numbers maybe between 10% to 20% of the population, because as you said the arab migration into Morocco is very small by numbers and could not demographically change the society. Which means most of Moroccans are originally Amazigh even if they don't speak the language.
I’m going to tell you a little story. I was travelling in the Atlas Mountains some time ago and I met a Moroccan couple from Casablanca. He was a native Tachelchit speaker from Tata and she was a native Darija speaker from the big city. When they spoke to each other, they obviously spoke in Darija. I love language learning and pretty much anything related to languages, so it is no wonder I ended up thinking: ‘Oh, if they have a child, the little one will end up unable to speak Tachelhit’. Why? Because being born in Casablanca will mean growing up in an environment where Darija dominates. Not because nobody speaks Tamazight, Tarifit or Tachelhit there (far from that), but rather because the city has become a melting pot of Moroccans coming from every corner of the kingdom and they will obviously resort to the lingua franca (i.e., Darija) when talking to each other. So, unless the father from Tata makes sure to compel the kid to talk back to him in Tachelhit (which won’t necessarily work since the parents will speak Darija to each other), it is likely the child won’t speak the language and their offspring won’t either… That’s how languages are killed. How many Moroccan or Algerian families experienced similar patterns? Countless ones, undoubtedly. And you apparently also belong to one of them.
But it is not something specific to Morocco - of course not. It is a natural phenomenon that always happens in a multilingual environment: only the most widespread languages survive. As I said in my video about French in Africa, the rapid urbanization of the continent is unfortunately accelerating this pattern.
As someone who’s so fond of languages, I regret it a lot. And would encourage anyone to preserve their languages whenever possible.
Thank you for your comment!
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Thank you ^.^ A video about Kurdistan is dropping very soon!
Thank you for good content❤
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
Just came by this channel and found your videos of great interest. Subscribed.
Thank you. Appreciated :)
The Guanches of the Canary Islands where Berbers who moved to the Canary Islands and were Berbers who never were Islamized or Arabized
The Spanish were real Monsters
I’m proud to be Muslim🤍from Libya 🇱🇾 ethnicy doesn’t matter Berbers Arabs Non-Arabs we’re All brothers in ISLAM We’re All Muslims ❤. Love to All Muslims around the world 🌎
Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said:"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety and good deeds.”❤
Does Islam encourage arabization and assimilation?
@@Koko70816 Islam does not encourage Arabization or cultural assimilation in the sense of imposing Arab culture or language on others. Islam is a universal religion that emphasizes faith, piety, and submission to Allah rather than cultural or ethnic identity. While Arabic is the language of the Qur'an and Islamic rituals, such as prayer, Islam teaches that no ethnic group, including Arabs, is superior to others. The Prophet Muhammad explicitly stated in his farewell sermon, "An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; a white person has no superiority over a black person, nor does a black person have any superiority over a white person, except by piety and good action."
Islam embraces cultural diversity, as long as the practices within a culture do not contradict Islamic principles. The preservation of one's native language, customs, and traditions is respected, provided they are in harmony with the values of the faith. Thus, Islam promotes unity in belief and practice, not uniformity in culture or language.❤️
@@Koko70816 Islam is a global religion with followers from diverse ethnic, cultural, and geographical backgrounds. African, Amazigh, Arab, Asian, European, Latin American, and many other peoples all embrace Islam. This diversity is seen as a strength within the Islamic community, often referred to as the *Ummah*, which unites Muslims under shared faith, not ethnicity or race.
The unity in Islam is built on the principle of *Tawheed* (the oneness of Allah) and the shared belief in the Qur'an and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad. This transcends cultural, racial, or national boundaries. Islam encourages mutual respect and the idea that piety and good deeds are the only things that truly differentiate individuals in the eyes of Allah.🤍
@@Rehab_203❤ Mashallah, well said! And ethnic/racial groups don't define us, what defines us is our most fundamental truth, worshipers/slaves of Allah. Just like everything in this universe, the trees, rocks, and all animals, we're slaves of Allah, His creations. We need to always embrace this truth.
Very sad, I am Algerian and Islam was forced on us. We had our own language, our own religion and our own ways. Now that I've left Islam and If I ever went back, I would be killed for leaving Islam.
Sad that I will never be able to go home again.
Hey I'm also ex Muslim from Indonesia,
@bunjijumper5345 Islam has simply stolen from the cultures it destroys and then claim credit for.
@@soberman1520🙏❤👍
Who has been killed for leaving Islam recently ? I know people from the Eglise protestante d Algérie who are apostate of islam. Their churches are closed, they can be imprisoned but I never hear of anyone having been killed.
@@danielalexandre4008 it usually gets covered up when it happens.
Amazighs are ancient Arabs who moved from the peninsula to North Africa way before the tribes who moved after Islam. It's kind of cousins remeeting each other.
@@Burawi exactly ..you sumerized history in two words....bravo.
It's fascinating to think about how much of history is shaped by cultural fusion rather than just military conquests. The story of Arabization in the Maghreb reveals the intricate layers of identity, power, and language. The Amazigh weren’t simply “absorbed” into an Arab identity; they navigated the changing tides of rule by blending their customs with new influences. What I find especially intriguing is the idea that the lack of a unified Amazigh state left them vulnerable to linguistic shifts. Had they solidified earlier, we might be looking at a very different cultural map today. Arabization wasn’t inevitable-it was circumstantial.
The Republic of Indonesia is the largest Islamic country in the world, and clearly illustrates that being (what you call) "Arabized" is not an inevitable consequence of being "Islamized". Similarly Malaysia.
Most Indonesians like most Muslims in the world(except maybe the middle east) don't know what they are saying when they memorize the Quran. That's because they memorize it in Arab, and just take what their imam says as face value. If most knew what it was saying in the quaran. Most would not have converted to Islam.
Also Indonesia I'm particular are having a greater increase of fundamentalist Muslims in their country because they are being arabized in due part by Saudi Arabia paying the bills to teach the Indonesian Muslim students true Islam.
So my question to you is do you love Afghanistan culture because you're going to love how it will be in Indonesia in a few decades if the true practicing Muslims get into power.
You might say "but that's not true Islam"
But it is, Indonesia was just out of reach of the arabs military to get you, but the words of their merchants was able to convince the upper class and then revolt and turn into a Muslim majority country.
Thats too easy. As she explained in the video, the similarity of amazigh languages with arabic due to being in the same language family faciliated it for people to learn and adopt this new language, additionally there was a big migration of arabs to the region and a replacment of old elites in the cities and cultural centers with arabs. Those new rulers imposed rules that made both the conversion to islam and using arabic very beneficial.
non of this happened or was even possible in Indonesia or Malaysia. The Arab armies couldnt reach you, there was no influx of Arabs and the languages are completely different.
@@maverick7291what? I am a Yemeni Muslim and most of us understand the quran but still love it and agree with it lol, the problem is not in the quran but your brain I guess
i am a hillali bedouin descandant but it was a good neutral video as well
I see you crying in tiktok comments everyday oussama and btw I love the berber pfp
The picture you're using a berber cavalryman remove it arap refugee
@@tygbs i am arab not barbarian
@oussamatalha1903 still admiring the barbarian race and putting pfps of beber carlvaryman
@@tygbs thats punic horsman
How egyptians, phenicians, cananaites, mesopotamians, yemenites became arab ? How anatlian became Turks ? How west salvic people became eastern german ?
What does arab mean?
#FreeYemen indeed. And tribal Oman was also never Arrub, they spoke more elegant-sounding languages like Mehri.
@@mmgxono mehri is as more spoken in Yemen but most Omanis are Arabs
@@ChromeMan04 "Most Omanis" meaning before the Syrian hillbillies wandered south, Oman indeed was not Arrub. Thanks for pointing out my initial point.
@@mmgxo you have no point you copin zoomali
Nice presentation
Im Algerian, does that mean I’m Arab
You're most likely Amazigh.
Pan Arabism before used to advocate if you spoke Arabic and embraced the identity, then you are Arabic. Sadly this is changing with loss of that way of thinking. Now we are all busy with our own little problems
Proud Muslim amazigh 🇲🇦☝️
Banu Hilal migrations brought around 500,000 to 1,000,000 additional Arabs in 11th century. I'm surprised there is no mention of that, it would have impacted the demographics significantly.
1 million hilalians 900 years ago will be 100millions by now. So, it's not exaggeration if we say all North Africans are Arabs.
@@SarahHaddid Pre-1900 world population growth was quite slow. Population of Maghreb in 1000 AD was over 5 million, so while this addition was substantial, they wouldn't suffice to make the majority.
@@jernejcesar Still, Arabs have always been the dominant group. There is no known genocide, or ethnic replacement of arabs in maghreb.
@@SarahHaddid Thats just not true... Arabs have never been the majority of the population. Even to this day they are severley out numbered.
“Banu Hilal migration” is mostly an exaggerated myth, pro-arabs try to use it as if it changed north africa when in reality it had little to no effect. The majority of them were killed and enslaved by the Almohads, arabization is mostly a colonial project that was pushed but the French and British. Before the 20th century arabism was way smaller in the Maghreb, it begin when the colonists were starting with the centralization of power and the installment of their puppet regimes that arabic was pushed as the lingua franca and the Amazigh population and their culture was getting marginalized.
I always wondered about this topic.
firstly I would say that a large part of what you say is false, there were several tribes of Arab origin in North Africa including Sanhaja, in addition even among the "Berbers" we can distinguish several origins, Herodotus counted four large populations in North Africa at his time; The Greeks, the (Black) Ethiopians, the Libyans and the Phoenicians, I remind you that the Romans considered the "Black Gaetulians" as the true indigenous people of the region, furthermore the study of DNA shows us that there has two majority strains "E78" which dates between 9500 and 12000 years and "E81" which dates between 2500 and 3000 years which corresponds exactly with the arrival of the Phoenicians whose language was Semitic, even Saint Augustine said that where he was going preached he needed an interpreter from Latin to the Punic that the populations spoke, which explains the ease with which Arabic spread, therefore the summary that you make which is taken from the Pseudo French Historians who through their work wanted no more divide and conquer
@@lebladful when one speaks of North Africa the reliable historical record is not good. Most of the records were by people who had a vested interest in not telling the truth. Who is an indigenous person is very subjective. My non scientific examination of Mediterranean food shows everyone takes credit for the origin of dishes when only one can be the originator.
Even DNA evidence is based on modern sampling, since we don't have contemporary live samples from prehistoric or even pre 20th century.
What we have are theories based on the little evidence we have.
Thank-you!
Arabized? We have ower own dialog ower own culture ower own food even DNA is different
In algeria 80%arab and 20%amazigh
كذاب
Devide and concur
That’s the way of the west
Talk is cheep but if you look at the historical evidence you will find that the people of the area came from Yaman 4500 years ago BC
So stop trying to divide the people of Morocco and let them live in peace
We are independent Amazighs with our language and culture, and many of us still preserve it despite all the marginalization that has befallen us. No matter how long the time, the authentic will always remain authentic. Free peoples never die.