Hi everybody! I am the interviewee in this video, Andy! I have been looking through the comments and really appreciate your inputs. All of these scratch-built engines that you see here run on butane/propane mix (70/30 mix). We buy canned fuel from Walmart basically, and the composition is this mix ratio (confirmed via pressure experiments). These engines run at a pressure of 6 psi (0.07 kg/cm2), so very low pressure. They are generally geared about 3:1, so 6 psi may not seem a lot, but these engines are deceptively powerful. It is too bad that no footage of them running was shown. In fact these engines don't even have safety valves. The cylinder is held in via a spring onto the plate, so any over-pressure will just lift the cylinder and vent excess steam. Every part was hand-made except the fuel fill valve. If you have any additional questions feel free to ask!
@@Cam.Klingon Unfortunately I no longer live at home and therefore don't have access to my dad's machining tools or trains. I can give you an idea though. Major tools needed are a lathe, mill (a normal drill press will work too), and a rather large torch (for silver soldering). A complete build log would fill many pages. You can snoop around the Live Steam forums on mylargescale.com to get a better feel.
Sir, I wanted a lot detailed discussion on the build process and working of these engines.. I would be greatful if you could provide me with more of these models (pictures, videos, buid process, anything) and other resources that will be usefull for scratch building model steam locomotives.. Email : kunalchangoiwala@gmail.com Eagerly waiting for your response..
My great grandad used to build scale working steam trains back in the day, unfortunately, they don't run anymore but they're still a wonderful example of craftsmanship.
I enjoyed this because the designs were so simplified I could actually understand how they worked. The complete replicas shown in previous videos are beautiful of course, but for a newbie, this was engaging due to the learning.
im building a stirling powered grinding wheel atm.... its so fun^^ and when you finally see the engine running you built yourself its like christmas and your birthday at the same time..... the engine is sitting in my room till the some bearings arrive so i can look at it and fire it up any time i want haha ^^
Why is everyone complaining about not seeing them run? I bet you can picture it and your head, and just appreciate things for what they are instead of whining
Well, if you have the necesary tools, skills and patience to produce over 80 individual pieces, screw and solder everything together on the 50/50 chance that it actually runs, assuming you built everything spot on, then yes, you can.
Makes me happy that there's still dad's out there getting their kids interested in something other than the internet. The internet has become this generations babysitter and it's sad to watch.
@@sketchesofpayne No doubt. That's why I was on here. I have no problem with people on the internet for entertainment. I game/watch movies/browse forums daily. But I'm an adult and know when to turn it off. What I don't like is when parents stick their kid in front of a laptop or tablet all day long just to keep them occupied. Kids are supposed to be outside having fun with other kids and learning from their interactions. I know people at my kids school who's kids don't know anything but getting home and being handed a tablet until bed time. All day everyday. It's sad.
can you use just a refillable lighter as a way to heat the water? I got these lighters that give a nice jetflame, very nice blue flame. Would be easy enough to take one apart and put the tank somewhere and easy enough to refill. But does it work?
If you play a Roblox game called “somewhere wales” that blue locomotive is the direct influence for a small green engine named “Saltine” they are identical only saltine is green and has cab controls and honestly I would love to see those as narrow gauge engines that can pull stuff
I have always wanted to make or use a steam engine but the main thing you need most if you want to do anything like this is a Lathe, finely machines parts will be the longevity of the models and now that I have restored one I could make a small steam engine but I don't not have the parts or the plan. Yet.
It looks nice, that is very clever how you made that. The one thin I would be very causes with is the boiler and the steam but I feel you know what you are doing. Cool model.
They build their own boilers and pressure systems? Where I live, you have to have a license to braze stuff that critical... it is not trivial to do pressure systems right, even if they are that small. Props to you guys!
At least if I am correctly informed. I live in Germany. Maybe my dad (who likes to build steam engines as well) just said he is not confident enough in his braizing skills to do the boiler himself so he wanted to see a professional for that job, could be :)
@@NochSoEinKaddiFan i know. I wanted to have 1 to. But i took the cheap route and build my own using a Wilesco D5 engine kit and Meccano parts i found on flea markets. Now i have a live steam 45 mm gauge.
I need to build one, *NOW* ! I'd rather have a 7.5" gauge one though, one I could actually ride on. But these are still cool! Wonder if I could build one in HO scale?
After seeing these scratch built trains, I think those that find this video interesting might be interested in my friend Charlie Mynheer's scratch built locomotive, "The Virgininian". Here is an (old) video from a steam up in Diamondhead, MS. ua-cam.com/video/QQGTkpNlbbQ/v-deo.html That locomotive and tender is 100% scratch built, save for the pressure gauge, valves, and lights. There are a lot more pictures here: www.panyo.com/dh2008/
Michid Miki you could build one yourself from castings if you got them from Stuarts in England I think I does World wide order service. They also do boilers which helps as they are pressure tested but there stuff does cost a lot.
I was expecting was more detail. Know one ol' fella who has is own UK-style live steam set, just for himself. The ones showcased in the video here with the flywheels would be regarded as entry level models, which are still expensively dumb. There are some properly serious modelers out there who'll build exact working replicas of locomotives or 1/3 and 1/4 scale steam traction engines. Also, yes, I was expecting to see them run, _booo..._
Well you gotta start somewhere. Better to make mistakes and have the machine not work on something really simple than on a full scaled replica with all the details, amirite?
the comments section: "WHY DIDN'T YOU RUN THEM YOU ASSHOLE!!" "U shudov mak dem inta Tomas trains" *horrible train pun* "OHHHH, did you know my gran used to make-a da model train?"
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Hi everybody! I am the interviewee in this video, Andy! I have been looking through the comments and really appreciate your inputs.
All of these scratch-built engines that you see here run on butane/propane mix (70/30 mix). We buy canned fuel from Walmart basically, and the composition is this mix ratio (confirmed via pressure experiments).
These engines run at a pressure of 6 psi (0.07 kg/cm2), so very low pressure. They are generally geared about 3:1, so 6 psi may not seem a lot, but these engines are deceptively powerful. It is too bad that no footage of them running was shown. In fact these engines don't even have safety valves. The cylinder is held in via a spring onto the plate, so any over-pressure will just lift the cylinder and vent excess steam.
Every part was hand-made except the fuel fill valve.
If you have any additional questions feel free to ask!
Awesome job! Not only on the trains (of course), but you also did an excellent job explaining everything in a very professional way.
@@Cam.Klingon Unfortunately I no longer live at home and therefore don't have access to my dad's machining tools or trains. I can give you an idea though. Major tools needed are a lathe, mill (a normal drill press will work too), and a rather large torch (for silver soldering). A complete build log would fill many pages. You can snoop around the Live Steam forums on mylargescale.com to get a better feel.
Sir, I wanted a lot detailed discussion on the build process and working of these engines..
I would be greatful if you could provide me with more of these models (pictures, videos, buid process, anything) and other resources that will be usefull for scratch building model steam locomotives..
Email : kunalchangoiwala@gmail.com
Eagerly waiting for your response..
Where did you source the piston and cylinder assembly from? Or did made it based on some existing or your own design?
How's difficulty of making these ?
My grandfather would love this
It's a shame that they didn't show the trains running
if i had to guess, id say the place they were at wouldn't let them run it inside (for good reason)
Thnx! Looks pretty cool ua-cam.com/video/jzaz39hUUKM/v-deo.html
But it still would have been nice to see a video of these trains by Andy Sorenson :)
Well sometimes you just have to appreciate things for what they are
@@stabfellowActually, they did. There was another Cracker at the beginning and an Accucraft Mogul at the beginning, both Live Steam.
My great grandad used to build scale working steam trains back in the day, unfortunately, they don't run anymore but they're still a wonderful example of craftsmanship.
Can't they be restored?
@@TheClass56xxfan probably however it's a large engine and will be very expensive and sadly we just don't have the space and the track to run it :(
im sure there 'll be a club relatively close by with its track and members that may be willing to help you get them running
This guy and his dad are super clever, those designs are really simple yet complex in their function
Tested and stem locomotives?? Brilliant!! I do like that 0-4-2!
Those are incredibly impressive.
Fantastic little locomotives, I really like the speeder locomotive hybrid at 3:52
I enjoyed this because the designs were so simplified I could actually understand how they worked. The complete replicas shown in previous videos are beautiful of course, but for a newbie, this was engaging due to the learning.
Scratch building is an amazing skill.
im building a stirling powered grinding wheel atm.... its so fun^^ and when you finally see the engine running you built yourself its like christmas and your birthday at the same time..... the engine is sitting in my room till the some bearings arrive so i can look at it and fire it up any time i want haha ^^
Why is everyone complaining about not seeing them run? I bet you can picture it and your head, and just appreciate things for what they are instead of whining
Dudes in the background at 3:05 look like they are having fun!
Glad I'm not the only one that noticed them lol.
Uncle Sam and his little brother Terry.
There is something jewel-like about these little beauties. Love them!
I want to do this when I’m retired. Would definitely be better then watching family feud all day!
You can do it right now without being retired.
Been loving the train stuff
I think I can do this, just gotta... _train._
PowahSlap Entertainmint How dare you make me read that with my own two eyes
Wow *wheel* funny
You two are *_firing_* me up
My Train of thought is gone because of that
Well, if you have the necesary tools, skills and patience to produce over 80 individual pieces, screw and solder everything together on the 50/50 chance that it actually runs, assuming you built everything spot on, then yes, you can.
Very cool, great video to show how a simple steam train can be designed, I guess making them more like the real thing is the next challenge
At first I thought they were just electric but they're MUCH cooler then that! I want one!
A good place to look is the Mamod website. You can buy a live steam loco, some wagons and some track for around £500-600
Or build 1 using meccano. When i get home i will make a video on mine
Makes me happy that there's still dad's out there getting their kids interested in something other than the internet. The internet has become this generations babysitter and it's sad to watch.
So, why are you on the internet?
@@Strassenkicker Because it's my day off morning and I was catching up on some videos while having my coffee. Going fishing... Have a nice day!
Catching up on something? It sounded more like nagging. Thank you, I wish you a nice day as well!
Still beats daytime-television.
@@sketchesofpayne No doubt. That's why I was on here. I have no problem with people on the internet for entertainment. I game/watch movies/browse forums daily. But I'm an adult and know when to turn it off. What I don't like is when parents stick their kid in front of a laptop or tablet all day long just to keep them occupied. Kids are supposed to be outside having fun with other kids and learning from their interactions. I know people at my kids school who's kids don't know anything but getting home and being handed a tablet until bed time. All day everyday. It's sad.
You have just made my day better. Now on to 1/8th scale models please?
Antiques Roadshow meets Tested!
This reminds me of the time the Fat Controller built a brick wall in front of Henry for not leaving the tunnel 😢💔
You have caused confusion and delay - and terrible trouble for my trousers.
At least it’s not those Thomas demons I kept seeing a few months ago
What was that even about
You got a problem with Thomas the Train you genetically modified fog? O-o
*gasp* Oh sir! If that's a jab at Thomas the Tank Engine in general, then color me greatly offended, you Cross-eyed Inbred Muckspout!!
I love trains so much
Yes! More Train stuff!!!
DO MORE!! I love this stuff!!
So COOL!
wicked engines! I'd love to have a crack at making something similar myself. More train videos please!
love hand made stuff
Well done! It would be nice if we can see them in action tho..
I love them
*_Beautiful_*
can you use just a refillable lighter as a way to heat the water?
I got these lighters that give a nice jetflame, very nice blue flame.
Would be easy enough to take one apart and put the tank somewhere and easy enough to refill.
But does it work?
And we don't see them in action?
That's pretty cool keep up the good content
If you play a Roblox game called “somewhere wales” that blue locomotive is the direct influence for a small green engine named “Saltine” they are identical only saltine is green and has cab controls and honestly I would love to see those as narrow gauge engines that can pull stuff
little engines can do big things!
That is pretty cool.
I have always wanted to make or use a steam engine but the main thing you need most if you want to do anything like this is a Lathe, finely machines parts will be the longevity of the models and now that I have restored one I could make a small steam engine but I don't not have the parts or the plan. Yet.
May i show my model i used without any expensive tools? ; i.imgur.com/EvWbxEDr.jpg
It looks nice, that is very clever how you made that. The one thin I would be very causes with is the boiler and the steam but I feel you know what you are doing. Cool model.
@@masterbower6083 boiler is pre made. I used the Wilesco D5 steam engine kit with Meccano parts.
O my bad, that makes sense. Those kits are well made so you would never have issue. Good luck modeling.
Actually epic!
This Is Amazing!
I'm actually thinking of making a Crackpot Engine named "Oracle".
She's a Cracker Steam Loco. With a 0-4-2 Wheel configuration and a complete cab.
Miniaturas fantástica! Rio de Janeiro RJ
Tested should visit Warley Model Railway Convention at N.E.C Birmingham UK...Holy Cow
They build their own boilers and pressure systems? Where I live, you have to have a license to braze stuff that critical... it is not trivial to do pressure systems right, even if they are that small. Props to you guys!
Where do you live then?
At least if I am correctly informed. I live in Germany. Maybe my dad (who likes to build steam engines as well) just said he is not confident enough in his braizing skills to do the boiler himself so he wanted to see a professional for that job, could be :)
@@NochSoEinKaddiFan why not use the boiler of a Wilesco steam engine kit?
Buying ready made boilers is the current route to take, but thank you for the input.
Unfortunately those kits are not on the cheap side ^^
@@NochSoEinKaddiFan i know. I wanted to have 1 to. But i took the cheap route and build my own using a Wilesco D5 engine kit and Meccano parts i found on flea markets. Now i have a live steam 45 mm gauge.
I need to build one, *NOW* ! I'd rather have a 7.5" gauge one though, one I could actually ride on. But these are still cool! Wonder if I could build one in HO scale?
There are in H0 scale but MASSIVE expensive.
After seeing these scratch built trains, I think those that find this video interesting might be interested in my friend Charlie Mynheer's scratch built locomotive, "The Virgininian". Here is an (old) video from a steam up in Diamondhead, MS. ua-cam.com/video/QQGTkpNlbbQ/v-deo.html That locomotive and tender is 100% scratch built, save for the pressure gauge, valves, and lights. There are a lot more pictures here: www.panyo.com/dh2008/
That's impressive
There’s only one quote to describe this ‘ I NEED IIIIIIT !, - spongebob square pants
Lol "make 'em look more real" they look like cartoon drawings of trains 😂
It reminds me the train Merlin uses in Disney cartoon, sword in the rock xD awesome
You can see a quick shot of the yellow one running it the other video they did at the show! ua-cam.com/video/hv9E3INSgd0/v-deo.html at 0:42
good video
I can see a one day build idea there
Were the fuck is the VR news?? Not had any for weeks. Its the only reason i come to this chanel.
the blue one kinda looks like saltine in somewhere wales but blue
Mmmmmm these things are so cute. I want to make one myself
I want a kit of a stationary boiler or that train.
Try Wilesco. It's a german model live steam brand that delivers great quality and is affordable.
Or Mammod in the U.K.
Michid Miki you could build one yourself from castings if you got them from Stuarts in England I think I does World wide order service. They also do boilers which helps as they are pressure tested but there stuff does cost a lot.
The King of Random
It is not about running the trains, but about building them, get it?
Can anyone link me a place to buy that Accucraft Mogul at the beginning?
the small real steam engine blue and red one look like James and Thomas
But we wanna see them workiiiing
3:03 look in the background
I don't know why but i was expecting that James May would pop up in this video.........
Now DCC them!
Where to buy these?
Should totally build a replica of the train from Harry Potter that takes the Witches, Wiards and muggles to Hogwarts
You mean Thomas from "Thomas and his friends" ?
The train in Harry Potter isn't Thomas, it is a GWR Hall locomotive. It was renamed Hogwarts Castle for the films.
what train is that in the thumbnail?
where's the MONEY SHOT, lebowski??
Nice
But... why didn't you SHOW THEM RUNNING?!?!?!?!
I thought they were electric model trains at first
3:22 0-4-2
Quite Keen.
I tried this my railway of steam worked
steam-powered flea mk2
Does anyone know what the fuel used to heat the boilers on these? Propane/Butane/Natural Gas? Just curious :D
I'm guessing propane.
There are different models. Some use actual coal, propane. It's literally what the builder feels like using.
ight how do I get one
I was expecting was more detail. Know one ol' fella who has is own UK-style live steam set, just for himself. The ones showcased in the video here with the flywheels would be regarded as entry level models, which are still expensively dumb. There are some properly serious modelers out there who'll build exact working replicas of locomotives or 1/3 and 1/4 scale steam traction engines. Also, yes, I was expecting to see them run, _booo..._
Well you gotta start somewhere. Better to make mistakes and have the machine not work on something really simple than on a full scaled replica with all the details, amirite?
check out mr pete222's channel on how to build one of those engines
Basically... Actually... Basically.
but isn't every train scratch built at some point...
Can you bilde thomas de tank Engine plz
Can I buy a custom engine
👍Helo
It rememberers my of saltine of somewhere,Wales
SHOW THEM RUNNING FOR FUCKS SAKE!
the comments section:
"WHY DIDN'T YOU RUN THEM YOU ASSHOLE!!"
"U shudov mak dem inta Tomas trains"
*horrible train pun*
"OHHHH, did you know my gran used to make-a da model train?"
Ernest Glaser's Cracker
I mean chip the blu One
Thomas without the face.
Lol
hello
Saltine from somewhere wales
Such a missed oppertunity... You guys should've put a little thomas face on it
not everything has to be Thomas yk
I was expecting to see something being built from scratch. I was disappointed.
You read far too much into the title.
In 5 minutes? ^^ Think again.
Hahahahaha. “Rarity”? The only one that there are two of.....
Some of them are Cracker Steam Engines.
Meaning it has one external cylinder powered by a fly wheel.
And only one cylinder.
Because of it being a little lightweight, it isn't that strong.
Wow a my little pony steam train 🚂
ok