Rachel Dolezal: I Cried Reading Caitlyn Jenner’s Story | TODAY
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- Rachel Dolezal, former NAACP chapter president sits down with TODAY’s Savannah Guthrie to discuss her relationship with her parents, as well as her feelings after reading the Caitlyn Jenner story in Vanity Fair.
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Rachel Dolezal: I Cried Reading Caitlyn Jenner’s Story | TODAY - Розваги
She's a very broken, confused woman who lies a lot. case closed
are you dumb, blind or both?
Wow!!! Accept who you are...is all I have to say..
Looks like she is trying to distance herself from her roots because she has had a disrupted early life and wants to get as far away from her roots as she can.
Nikki, absolutely
If the media is so accepting of Caitlyn Jenner deciding to be a woman, why can't they accept her identifying as something else. It seems like a double standard.
bleedingbatho because she contradicts herself multiple times not only just in this interview, but in several others. It makes people think that she is probably a white person trying to steal black peoples jobs/status to make herself look radical. She achieved a lot of positive reinforcement when she posed as a black woman, which now she feels is being stripped away, and she is feeling the burn. She misses being black and being in power.
bleedingbatho You can't "decide to be a woman". You either is or you aint. Two testicles and a tallywhacker are evidence that he is what he is.............
Race is not "a social construct". Race is a biological division.
Theban Ned Greenman Okay, so if my doctor says I have excess of a certain cell/chemical in my body, I am completely different from you "biologically"? Just because one human produces more melanin than another, it does not "divide" us biologically. What you are implying is extremely racist - you're implying that a black person is a biologically different than a white person. That they are different species. You're wrong, sorry to say. Race IS a social construct. It's because we SEE a difference in appearance, we then assume we are different. It has NOTHING to do with the biology.
Theban Ned Greenman black scientists, inventors, doctors, lawyers etc are laughing at you right now - sit down and educate yourself properly or else you'll continue through life sounding ridiculous
Rachel disguised as an African American and advocated based on experiences that she never had. She didn't always identify as black/African American. She even filed a lawsuit against Howard University as a white woman in 2002. There was also the appeal in regards to that lawsuit in 2005. Furthermore, she said "No" in response to a question about identifying as an African American at the age of 16 which was the age she said she was when she was shown a picture of her paleskinned and straight haired blonde in an interview.
A person cannot advocate based on personal experiences that he/she doesn't have. She is no Frederick Douglas type who was an abolitionist and former slave that advocated based on his personal experiences as a slave. She has no personal experiences as a black person, and so she shouldn't be advocating based on black experiences that she never had but yet claims that she had.
Bruce Jenner only recently came out claiming to be a woman. It's not like he has been posing as woman and speaking for women's rights based on having experiences as a woman.
I have nothing against transracial people nor transgender people.
I have problems with people doing advocacy based on experiences that they never had.
Raymond Nolan Scott I am multiracial myself, and I identify as such. I think the one drop rule is outdated,racist,and stupid.
While I agree with mostly everything you've said I do think its important to note that Caitlin Jenner is not advocating for women rather advocating for transgendered women, in which she clearly has had experiences. Quite different from Rachel Dolezal advocating for black women and specifically on the topic of discrimination against black women where she has had no personal experience. Caitlyn Jenner's story is very different from Rachel's and its important to acknowledge that. Rachel Dolezal is blatantly abusing her white privilege but also exploiting the transgender community, which is very real.
I meant that Bruce Jenner hasn't been posing as a woman for many years and advocating for women's rights based on false experiences as a woman.
Terry Hasty Bruce jenner is in no way different than this women. They r both crazy people who r denying fact and jenner.
U can't be women while u still ve ur balls and u can't be black just coz u put on a wig. If bruce and people like him got a free pass , so does this women. People like this need a psychiatric help. They r infecting our world.
hilina demere Check out Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. People that have complete AIS were born with XY chromosome, but they look like women. They lack sensitivity to androgens. They have problems producing testosterone. They end up producing excess estrogen. They can actually be more feminine than actual women.
I listen to Hip Hop and live in Australia "I don't feel Asian because I do these things" that's just stupid. You cannot FEEL a colour.
This reminds me of a kid getting caught by their parents in a lie....first the random stuttering and finding answers and then the crying.
"Creative non-fiction"... that's an understatement.
She rolls her eyes and pulls out the phoney tears
Stop
5 years ago, people would be so againt this. Today, 2021, people can freely identify whatever or whoever they feel.
Sorry but people can not freely identify whatever they feel. You can not go against biology and how God made you. You don't get to choose if you're a man/woman just like you can not chose if you black/white. Both are dumb, don't let social media trick you into believing people can freely identify as whatever they want, people IRL don't= people on social media
It's pretty much the same being trans racial vs trans sexual. They both are claiming to be something that dna or biology disprove. If we are fine with women claiming to be men or men claiming to be women then this isn't a far stretch.
I hate that she talks around the question of whether she is white or not. Its a simple yes or no question were you born white. Really it not hard to tell the truth. I don't think this whole thing would have been a big deal if she had just told the truth from the beginning. The fact that she lies about everything is making things worst for her in the media.
Gender comes with its own emotion, feelings and perceptions brought by a chemical make up in your brain. Yeah, it's physical, but Gender is more than that, it's a feeling. I think race is completely different. Unlike gender which lies heavily on social construction, race lies completely on social construction. A white person and a black person do not naturally feel different, any differences are from outward forces. As a mixed race person, I don't personally feel different. She's full of it.
Alicia Coburg don't you know everybodies mixed?
prophetofdoom yeah but I'm more obviously mixed
Alicia Coburg Alicia gender is wired into our dna at the chromosomal level. I'm very concerned about the dark history of pseudo science the sex change industry
Alicia Coburg its a very interesting topic - gender/sex has a spectrum of emotions and predispositions that are reasonably variable . I don't know all the particulars of your position on transsexuality - I want more acceptance of people who chose to dress how they like, express themselves how they like and take a name they like but I very commonly see contradictory positions from people who advocate for transsexuals to be *literally* considered to have *become* the opposite sex , these people in my experience commonly say that men for example have no right to comment on and be considered significant voices about womens issues. thats bonkers to me, so while identifying as male a guy cannot speak about womens issues but if they wish to they can in the legal sense transform into a woman!
dolezal has said something to the effect of being culturally black not racially black, by virtue of being raised with black siblings in a mostly black community and then continuing her association with that community by her job of choice, she also has two adopted black sons for further connection in her mind as well as claiming her parents were abusive, if so I can see why she would have an extra incentive to reject that part of her genetic identity.
Alicia Coburg
You are no more obviously mixed than any other person.
This reminds me of the story of the fork and spoon that meets the chop sticks. When they first meet, they ask "which one is the fork?" The point being depending on which culture you come from, it can sometimes be very hard to see anything outside of the preconceived ideas in your culture. You are 'mixed' but what does that mean exactly if everybody is mixed? You are 'more obviously mixed' but what does that mean?
It means you cannot see yourself except outside of your culture. Your mind is limited to a single societies opinions and whims. How sad is that?
If most people believed they looked like you then your image would be the norm and those who don't currently identify as mixed would actually be considered mixed.
She seems very guarded, scared, and co-dependent.
I self-identify as a rocketship. I exist as cosmic-lint in the pocket of your mind and make origami cranes out of your epic dreams. My life-force is an optical illusion. I was born this way. If you tell me I am wrong you are biggoted, phobic and/or a "hater".
I am also the Walrus.
museblock 🤣
Race is a social construct, gender is not.
This lady is nuts!!!
With all this talk of transgender and trans-racial people, I think I'd like to finally tell people I'm trans-financial. I'm a rich man born into a broke man's body. If anyone would like to donate to help me reach this goal of living the life of a rich man, a man I was born to be, it would be greatly appreciated.
This woman is such a liar.
My thoughts. She got caught! They found her out. Now, to cover her motives with psychology. She might just cry insanity in a bit. Nonsense!!!
The tears is her white side.
Is this really what I am missing by cutting the cable cord? I'll keep my 80$ a month directv
I should have not seen brad Williams comedy skit. Omg I honestly can't watch this video without laughing.
Caitlyn Jenner vs Rachel Dolezal for Epic Rap Battles of History!
Two confused people trying to change something about them that they cannot!
If feelings can determine your gender, then why not race?
Black is so wonderful!
So is middle eastern
Lol omg Halloween costume that wig!! Party city get on that Sh**!
Where do the lies end? Where does the truth begin?
*Gender identity Vs Rachel Dolezol...*
If you can not tell the difference between the development of a person's brain, it's connection to a person's sexual drive, sexual function, behavioural chemistries and the colour of someone's skin... Then I can not help you. Last time I checked one was an inherited physical trait, like skin colour, and the other was a person's psychological make-up.
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Moments of creative non-fiction....
As for Rachel's situation having anything to do with those of us, both heterosexual and not, who were born with an anatomy which does not match our genders... it's a pretty difficult argument to make, although perhaps not impossible genetically, that we are born with racial consciousness.
For one thing there don't seem to be any other examples of her argument or premise other than herself... which greatly increases the chances that her dilemma is subjective rather than objective.
And it is difficult to watch Rachel fail so completely to support her argument at all... as she has no science of any kind to fall back on which isn't pathological.
So you telling me her parents didn't notice something a bit off about her as a child. When she constantly used the brown crayon to draw herself?
Butterface tho😂🧐
LOOK AT 2:08 to 2:12!!!!
Subjective truth is not reality. It is opinion based on ones personal perspective of individual lived experience. It is not comprehensive objective reality as a whole. It is simply a perspective.
LOL 2:08-2:12
She doesn't make sense and she is dishonest about so much so speaking ill of her parents is questionable. She is burning bridges for her 15 min of exposure.
You should be able to identify however you like. End of.
No.
Vino veritas where does it stop she is a liar end of .
Why can’t she black when people are becoming women. She feels black inside she’s transitioning into a black somebody
One thing is loving the black culture ,helping in the NAACP ..but considering yourself black ? I'm pretty sure she doesn't go through what black people go through on a daily basis SMH ..
Why does it matter??? I don't even know how I got here, because I could care less
She Look Like Bill O'Reilly Hahaha
Looks like she had natural straight hair how she get her hair like that?
Dropped on her head when she was a baby. A consequence of this is having many screws loose.
I think it's ridiculous that she calls herself Africa American whenever she literally has ZERO African descent. Black is bad enough. But AFRICAN AMERICA! Also notice how in every interview she hasn't answered a single question.
Cukcoo for cocoa puffs
She lied about her parents whipping her how could she the parents who looked after her and brought her up. She is so sad and a liar!
I'm going to get a lot of hate for this comment but I gotta say it. As soon as I see proof this isn't some publicity stunt by Kris and Caitlyn, I'll support her. But untill then? I'm skeptical. I am not against trans people at all! Be who you wanna be and rock on with your awesome sauce self!
It's strange how I seem to be the only person who actually doesn't have any problem believing her story. She seems legit.
I guess open-mindedness is a rare trait.
JonnyNice It definitely is rare and Im w/ you buddy
JonnyNice I have no problem with her story either.
JonnyNice I don't have a problem with her associating and finding identity with a different culture. The problem is the lies
Joel Stevens Everyone lies. Who cares if she doesn't like her father and so she claims another man to be her father. Get off her ass. It isn't anyone else's business.
JonnyNice haha, I'm not on her cas Jonny. It is other people's business if she is in role that requires integrity and she is lying. Her modus operandi is defined by relative moralism. Her standards fluctuate according to the situation. Like I said, I have no problem with her identifying with black culture. I do have a problem with the lies. And I can state that without "being on her ass"
i have never seen anyone this crazy. i hope they check on her kids. i can only imaging what it is like to date her, let alone live with her
When she cried, did any of the 'black' make-up start running?
Ya know...look. This chick clearly has some issues. I can't defend the lying and evading...BUT...just in terms of a person identifying with another race, we've probably all seen examples of this to a greater or lesser extent, and I don't see why it's a big deal. Actually lying about your own race is stupid because you can't possibly keep it up; you're going to be outed and you have to know that, so it must be a neurotic thing. But as far as I'm concerned, you can "identify" however you want if it doesn't hurt anybody else.
I'd been thinking about this myself in comparison with Caitlyn Jenner - because as weird as that is to me, I can't understand why people get ENRAGED over it, other than that they consider it an extension of the insane hatred that they've given themselves free reign to direct at gay people. The weird response to Dolezal from certain "conservative" corners (Limbaugh etc) was similar and clearly based on good old fashioned racism. We can all agree she's a liar and has problems, but she drove these people nuts because they're NOT what you would call philo-African...lol.
Again, hate Caitlyn Jenner because of her affiliation with the Kardashians - that's TOTALLY rational and justifiable. But I don't give a fuck that Bruce Jenner became a woman - it certainly doesn't piss me off...lol. I'll even call her "her," because it's no skin off my ass (so to speak). And insofar as Dolezal identifies with and feels at home in black culture, and nobody's being wronged, then fine. I only get morally enraged at things that are actually morally wrong.
I honestly thought she was black before even she speak
3:31 In your mother we hope
Crazy
I heard she's related to Kirk Lazarus
*sigh* so many transracial-phobic comments..
They just made up that "word"
sonix rey Heterophobe....
Sorry, transracial is not a thing.
re "sigh so many transracial-phobic comments." Not really. It is just that Heterophiles are pissed off with Anglophobia
overgrow00 Naaah you dont say?! Dont act stupid you know what I meant.
crazy...
really only in America :D
Nope these that one russian girl who literally take Melenine pills
Rachel feels more black in her life's journey and enjoys the outward expressions of it. The problem is when she speaks she keeps saying untruths. Playing with words to create a reality and lying about things are not admirable.
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She's lying!!!!
shes delusional
wtf
Lol wtf are people supporting this ?
race/ethnicity is physical
nationality is emotional
this woman, and others, need to stop being confused
Rome is falling again.
Race and Gender are totally different topics, why did does she even think that they are even comparable
Hilarious
Walking fictional book
THIS LADY IS A BIG LIAR. LOOK HOW SHE RESPONDS ABOUT BEING ABUSED BY HER PARENTS THEY HAVE NOT DID ANYTHING BUT BLEW HER COVER. SHE HAS A PROBLEM AND CAN'T LIE RIGHT. ALL SHE HAD TO SAY IS SORRY FOR MISLEADING PEOPLE
Baloney!!!!
CRINGE
she will fight for my liberty and freedom . but uncle Clarence Thomas will not fight fo civil rights r my
Creative non fiction. So. Fake. Okay.
It's more about what she feel. She got a deep connection with the black community and therefore identify as a African American, seeing herself as it. Form the inside out. I dont have any issue with her, I just think she should have come cleaned from day 1 saying that she was born from biological two Caucasian person.
Witch
i think that transracial has nothing to do with being transgender, it is like a book, race is just the cover of it ,something meaningless, but the content of the book , what is inside of it, what really gives meaning to a book, that is being a transgender. I think this woman is pointing race in a very damaging direction, like it is something that comes from within, related to your feelings , thoughts, believes, intelligence, etc, and that is highly racist, a person of color can feel and think the same way as a white person, we should not give impontance to race or skin color, cause when ppl started doing so in the past , racisim begun as a result of believing that ppl of color had differents feelings and emotions, and that is exactly what this woman is doing
agreeed
If feelings can determine your gender why not race? If feelings can trump your sexual biology why not your racial biology?