The Making of Rogue Legacy 2 | Noclip Documentary
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We talk to Cellar Door games about their challenging journey to create a worthy sequel to Rogue Legacy.
0:00 - Intro
1:45 - Cellar Door's History
6:53 - The Vanguard Team
9:30 - Music
10:54 - Class Design
19:49 - Gear / Relics / Resolve
24:08 - Art Design
37:14 - Biomes
42:27 - Early Access Updates
46:57 - Traits
50:10 - Skill Crits
53:34 - 1.0 Launch
1:01:45 - Credits
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Edited by Jeremy Jayne & Danny O'Dwyer
Gameplay Capture by Frank Howley - Ігри
I remember don't shit your pants!
Man, RIP flash.
It was such an amazing experience to talk about the ups and downs of developing Rogue Legacy 2 with the team at Noclip. They were so much fun, and so professional.
10/10 would talk to again.
Also, Full Metal Furies is great!
Any plans to release Rogue Legacy 2 on PS4? Cheers for making games. The first Rogue Legacy is one of my favs, up there with Spelunky.
Full Metal Furies is amazing!
@@themetalpig7613 Hoping we can announce our future console plans in a few months. Just don't want to make any promises we can't keep.
i was excited for full metal furies back when it first came out but having to pre-arrange with my friends at the time who were not the most understanding of failing in any videogame (as if instant mastery was ever what games were about) kind of made it hard to stick with.
years later i'm reminded of it, and see it now has lobby support so i feel excited to revisit it! it helps that i've got better friends to convince if the lobbies don't work out, too 😂
This is 1 of my favourite games and the way you guys pushed the mechanical depth of a 2D action game with the canceling, crits, and unique classes while keeping it accessible was amazing. I really hope some future roguelites/metroidvania's are inspired by the mechanics you guys added, the game feels amazing to play.
So great hearing the devs talk about the community's affect on the game. As someone who's been in that discord since around launch, it's gratifying.
Full metal furies is still quite awesome, I would very much encourage everyone to check it out, especially if you got friends to play with.
Dont get why it failed, me and my friend loved it so clever
@@la_cantina is it required to have friends in order to have fun in this game?
@@marcinwitkowski217 I've only played it as a co-op but I would think you can play it a solo
That Goldilocks system is a smart design decision, well done!
Really nice to see how down to earth and communicative they were.
Yet another way games cheat to make the player enjoy the game more... wish I didn't know much about that because it can make the game feel a little less fun.
@@venomousslime6797your kidding right, if the developers put something in the game then it's not cheating by definition, making a game more accessible to more ppl is a good thing, not to mention the system works both ways, it also increases difficulty when it becomes too easy as well, if you dont like it then don't play and move on like what most normal ppl do, instead of crying and whinging about it on UA-cam, don't be so pathetic, it makes you look toxic and salty
I was so glad when I saw this game wasn't pixel art. I really hope this encourages more indie developers to go for a "high res" style. I also hope it helps more devs realize that any 2D game can benefit from a 3D pipeline.
Unfortunately, this kind of style is expensive and very time consuming to make at good quality. Which is why low-fi 2D and 3D have and will reign supreme for a long time to come. I personally also would've preferred pixel art in the style of the first game with nice lighting effects over this Spelunky 2 style vector art - but that's just me... 🙂
@@SK83RJOSH Not all hi-res styles have to be expensive or time consuming. The previous game the animator worked on was Lovers in a Dangerous Space-Time, which has a much simpler, yet bold, art style.
Like the video points out, pixel art often requires a lot _more_ in all but the simplest cases. For example, having to do the same walkcycle from multiple angles in a top-down game. Plus, pixel art has been done to death at this point.
Might feel like a dumb detail, but I LOVE how you present the zoom calls. Instead of blowing them up full screen where all the nasty video compression would poke our eyes out - you make them small, so that they almost appear professionally shot thanks to the added crispness. Imma steal that approach if I ever need to edit webcam interviews. We see enough of full screen zoom footage every day to last us several lifetimes.
thats not zoom neither it is a purproseful detail - its discord, which displays webcam footage in a small window, until you unwrap it. the more you know!
Just want to say if anyone from Cellar Door is reading this... Full Metal Furies is one of the best experiences I've had in a game (context I'm middle aged and played since nes). I particularly loved the animation and combat systems, the world felt very novel also. The secret ending and out of the box thinking involved were amazing too.
I remember in an interview I read it was mentioned an endless/roguelite mode was planned to be added, but it was unfortunately scrapped due to lower sales 😢
Glad to see you're all still able to do what you love. And this was so interesting to see the beginnings of don't shit your pants, I never knew that!
The thing that shocked me about RL2 was something I didn't really expected... The story. The characters and The world
Rogue Legacy 2 has genuinely believable and interesting characters, especially the Estuaries. This game makes you understand and respect your enemy, and that's insane
P.S: Enoch and Naamah are on the other level. Their story has to be the best and such an emotional one. The world of Rogue Legacy could be an amazing novel, and definitely a very deep one!
Just beat the final boss for the first time after 72 hours of wonderful grinding so this was a great companion piece. Rogue Legacy 2 is an all-timer for me and the best possible evolution of the unforgettable original game. Thanks to the community for playing through early access and helping fine tune this to be one of the most unbelievably balanced and bug free launches I've seen in a modern game in years. I can't wait to see what they do next and look forward to picking the game back up after a little break to try some NG+ runs!
Watching this game launch in Early Access to seeing this documentary be released is so surreal to see
Rogue Legacy 2 is a nearly perfect game. I never played the first one, but bought #2 because of MFPallytime's videos and enthusiasm for it.
Full Metal Furies so incredibly underrated. By far, the best beat 'em up game out there. Also the most creative puzzles I've ever seen in any game.
YES!!! this one is gonna be great I'm a massive fan of rogue legacy 1+2 they singlehandedly opened my eyes to the wonderful world of roguelikes! what a great game and very fun to follow early access release! Love cellar door games :D
If you’re reading this, go play Full Metal Furies. That game is so good.
One of my favorite aspects of these documentaries on indie games - besides highlighting these amazing games, it really makes me feel even more joy playing them, knowing the people behind them and how hard everyone worked. It makes it much more gratifying to support these developers and I’m happy with their success
Full Metal Furies is one of the best beat 'em ups I played in the last 10 years. It is so fun, especially if you have some friends to play with
Agreed but I’m stuck on this big spinner guy!
Full Metal Furies is the best! I loved it.
Just an awful title for a game is all
I cant believe Full Metal Furies didnt do well, that games is FIRE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Full Metal Furies is so much fun, it's such a letdown so many people didn't play it.
I LOVE Rogue Legacy 1 and 2. I was one of the people that picked it up early access, beat what they had out, and said OK I'll come back for release. It's wild seeing how far they came. And until you showed them in succession, I completely always thought RL2 looked just like RL1. It's wild how good it looks in comparison
A few scattered notes:
1. I was very surprised to learn people don't immediately like the Gunslinger class. I honestly like all classes, but I definitely tend to pick the Gunslinger almost every time I can.
2. The Bard is so cool to play with. It definitely took longer than the other classes to click for me, but I was hooked from the first time I played it, and it's the only one I like better than the Gunslinger. It fundamentally changes how I approach the game, in a much deeper way than any other class. Making it so the notes block projectiles was an ingenious touch. I can't imagine there's anything more awesome in RL2 than a skilled Bard.
3. I don't know which class is my third favorite. Which is cool. They're all cool. (Perhaps not so much the Cook. It's too slow, and the class Talent doesn't recover as much HP/Mana as it should, at least not from the start.)
4. I was SHOCKED to learn what almost sunk this game was lack of content, of all things. I know this wasn't at all the case at the start of the Early Access, but there's SO MUCH STUFF in the final release, it's almost hard to imagine anyone thinking there's not enough content.
5. I didn't remember the first Rogue Legacy's graphics to be so, er… rudimentary. I guess it's true what they said in the documentary about the sequel looking like how you remember the first one to look like. The sequel is so polished, it looks timeless!
The agenda to boost Full Metal Furies sales continues.
Rogue Legacy 1 & 2 are some of my favorite games of all time, bar none, and I've been gaming since the '80s. Full Metal Furies was also a really fun time. It's hard to believe how underappreciated that game is. Anyway, thank you for those great games, Cellar Door crew! You guys are super talented. God bless!
I loved the first Rogue Legacy back in the day, and I never replayed it, so I jumped immediately into RL2 once the Early Access was opened. I don't remember feeling like there was a lack of content, but I did immediately stop playing it. I wanted to get a feel for the sequel, and that first "feel" was so good that I was immediately like "oh man, this game is gonna be really good. I don't wanna burn myself out on this before its proper release, so I'll just wait". So that's what I did.
And it was a really great decision, I'd say! I really admire the dedication of people who stick around playing and replaying and giving feedback and being part of the community for a single game - I just know I don't have the persistence for that. I seek novelty to a fault. So, for me, waiting for the full release was great.
I just got a Steam Deck, and Rogue Legacy 2 is the first game I'm really going deep on it. It's been fantastic!
rl2 has become my comfort game. ive poured in hundreds of hours to get mastery on all classes. beyond all the fancy things the game does (which i love), their core understanding of how to make action platforming is the best ive ever seen :)
I honestly wasn't even planning to play this game, now that I watched this video I feel like a superfan. It's really cool to watch one of these about a game you love, but it's also a great experience to listen to the developers talk about making their game, and then playing through it with all the little bits and pieces you learned from their interviews
Been a while since a sequel actually felt like a sequel in video gaming.
Great game, passionate devs. Full Metal Furies is underrated, go check it out with some buddies.
They mentioned they were worried about progression in their roguelike. I'd be curious to see what the team would make in a "proper" skill-based/no post death progression/from scratch roguelike.
I just watched Artlike's documentary on Manifold Garden, and now Noclip drops a documentary on Rogue Legacy 2. It's a good day.
Loved the game and I had no idea about your last game not doing well, so it’s great to see all this work turn into such a great experience
Around 13:00 the subtitles say "mealy" when they should say "melee". And this is a great video to watch, thanks
Amazing documentary, I really enjoyed this!!!
Thank you so much for bringing all the devs in to share the insight of what goes into crafting an amazing piece of modern video game
Thank you so much for making the video and to developers for so openly talk about their hard work. Really give the depth into development of Rogue Legacy I never imagine.
Great video guys, playing this at the moment and it's great to see you got a video for me to go with it!
They mentioned paper prototypes a lot throughout the documentary, it would have been cool to see those things and have a little explanation about them
I've been playing this game since the first early access day right up to now. I have hundreds of hours in the game and still find new things every time because of the brilliant burden NG+ system. The discord and the developers are great and i enjoyed the gradual updates a lot. I will never forget this game. Incredible to see an hour long documentary on it!
I love this game and really enjoyed hearing from the creators! I enjoyed the history as well as the unique oddities in the art 2.5d vs 3d stuff, all super interesting. Thank you for putting this together!!
Hell of a game. I thought the original was ok, but I really loved this one.
omg just as I sit down to eat. perfect timing
This episode goes through many technical things about making games especially in the 2D vs 3D section. I would love to see Noclip explain that even more for beginner developers or just players.
I know it doesn't say much about the developers journey but these are quite interesting topics. I'm talking about things like why lighting can go crazy in 3D rather than 2D for example.
"maybe people don't want to play our games anymore..." that is heart wrenching for a game dev.
Sure we want to play your games! (at least i do)
ALSO... Make a DLC for RL2 with eldritch class!!!
So happy this was made, huge fan of Cellar Door Games and hope more people try their games!
I'm just here to say: Yes, we want an Eldrich Class 😭
Make it DLC, I don't care, just do it!
Can't wait to dive into this game! Thank you NoClip :)
Love this series, really fun EA playthroughs as well. Thanks for giving us a look behind the scenes CD and NC!
Good video, Always interesting to have a glimpse in the coulisse of the developpement of a game, and what a good game IS RL2.
Thanks for this, RL1 and 2 were amazing
I'm be completely honest I picked up this game during Early Access and was not super happy with it initially so I refunded it and mostly forgot about it until I happen to spot this documentary. Picked the game up again now that it's fully done and having a ton of fun again.
Rogue Legacy, both 1 and 2, are awesome. Great stuff on this video.
I got this game day one when it launched on switch. It's one of my favorite games and is up there with dead cells.
Great Doc Danny
It's now August 2023 and I just got the game on PS5, definitely happy with it tho, such a huge improvement over the first game and I think is right up there with games like Hades, Dead Cells and The Binding of Issac, ppl always say quality over quanity but Rogue Legacy 2 is the perfect example of having both, I've always said the best developers can do a large quantity of quality content, and having native 4K at a stable 60fps is just the icing on the cake
Great doc, Noclip!
Love Rogue Legacy 1. Bought Rogue Legacy 2 as soon as 1.0 was announced to show my support. Still haven't gotten around to it (along with dozens of others. Life!), but definitely looking forward to it. Never heard of Full Metal Furies before today...
I was the same as you got it early barley played it and started it on Steam deck this month its an incredible game one of my fave of all time especially in this genre its wonderful play it my freind :)
i loved full metal furies, i played the game entirely in co-op with a friend and we had a blast ! the class trials were cool and challenging, the story is fun, characters are really funny..... i don't get why it didn't take off
I skipped it due to misreading the title as "Furries"... Woe is me.
Amazing game and amzing story.. just aweseome stuff
Man, I still get sad when I hear how poorly Full Metal Furies did. It was admittedly really difficult, and I never finished it, but man I really like that world so much. I love the idea of that game a ton.
Just watched this and bought the game immediately. Absolutely love it!
FULL METAL FURIES IS A BANGER GAME. UNDERRATED GEM I FOUND IN 2018 PLEASE PLAY IT EVERYONE ITS AWESOME!!!
I love this game. Spent many hours playing it 2022/23.
Thank you for the insight.
Great Developers!
Great documentary! As someone who doesn't have a PC or Xbox, but has the original game bought and completed both on Playstation and Switch, I hope they eventually release to other platforms, too.
Nice video! Reminds me to purchase the game. A bit sad there is no native Linux build though, but at least it's "verified" on Steam Deck.
I'm glad I took the time to submit all those bug reports. The game came out great.
Amazing design in this game, all around!
I used to hate rogues, cause i'm horrid at them.. And I get that they're meant to be hard- but I absolutely am thankful they included the House Rules. RL2 has become my favorite game and being able to reduce the diff and slowly increase it back as I got more and more comfortable with the game and I'm getting to the point of playing at the intended difficulty. Otherwise I would of just gave up in my ability to ever figure it out. THANK YOU devs! Seriously :D I know some people cry it hurts- but accessibility has been such a blessing. It may not be your original ideal of how to play, but it allows some of us derps to get better at our own pace to eventually be able to.
Also the game gives me such a giggle at all the random bits of humor!
this making of convinced me to give RL2 a go after the initial feedback from early access. Loved the original.
Been there from the start of the Early Access. Now it's my most played game on Steam with 373 hours, and one of my favorite games. And yes, all the classes are well balanced and I'm not sure I could pick a favorite :p
Also, FMF was nice, I'm sad it didn't succeed more.
Wow makes me appreciate the game more. Just started playing though.
Full metal furies failing is such a travesty. That game is some of the best coop brawling action you can get (as long as you don't play trish).
Meg's sniper combos and eren's bullshit are just fucking exquisite game design and I love the game so fuckin much ahhhhh
I watched MFPallytime play this game throughout early access and found it enjoyable content. I bought it months after launch just cause it was on sale, and it blew my mind, I loved it.
As a Rogue Legacy 1 player, I bought Rogue Legacy 2 in early access, but I completely forgot about it. Off to reinstall and experience the full game. Thank You Noclip!
yo, people need to give full metal furies a try, it's fucking great
25:58 *grabs popcorn*
Thanks!
I only played about 15 hours of Rogue legacy, and that was enough for me to pretty instantly buy into early access of Rogue Legacy 2, They should be proud of what they've created. Speaking of being proud, you should also be proud of this video! It's extremely well crafted, and kept my attention throughout. 😁
The art work in this game is amazing.
Played the first one in 2013 I think and got it on Xbox too. Didn’t even know there was a sequel until a couple of months ago but certainly looking forward to picking it up
it is still BONKERS to me that FMF didn't do well. It's enormously fun, creative, and funny.
Once Dwarf Fortress releases on Steam, please do a Full Longer documentary on them to seal their destiny. Thank you 😊
I see Dwarf Fortress. I upvote.
It's truly a piece of gaming history, and a monument, testament, and pillar for everything that game development stands for. What an incredible story. Improbable and nigh impossible what the brothers have been able to do for so so long.
will NoClip still be around in the year 2040?
350hours since day 1 of early access and I had NO idea about no Goldilocks system!!
Thanks dad, for spoiling me without me knowing
bought it instant on steam at launch and its great with over 90% positive reviews on steam .
Fingers crossed for a release of this game and Full Metal Furies on PS4/PS5
Minor correction: the English subtitles read "mealy" when the developer is saying "melee" (around/after the 13:00 mark).
I really wish these games would go cross platform. They deserve the broader audience
For the record, FMF still has a 91% positive score on steam. It was a great game.
I can only judge from the footage but hot damn do the sound effects of Rogue Legacy 2 sound satisfying.
I bought this at launch and thought this doesn't feel very different and forgot all about it. Looking forward to diving back in now.
Rogue Legacy was a superb game. I wasn't even aware there was a sequel!
Full metal Furies was an amazing game
awesome.
Please do a doc on Enter the Gungeon!
full metal furies singleplayer was very enjoyable for a sweaty moba gamer due to the combos you could create from character-swapping at will. made co-op ironically feel secondary. my main wish is that FMF is used as foundation for a character action game :)
I bought this in early access and could tell it was going somewhere good. However, the lack of a PS4/PS5 version in May 2023 is starting to get insulting. PS3 is where I found Rogue Legacy and had a blast playing on my commute with the PS Vita.
They really made something special.
I love this game so much. Ng+11 today. My only small complaint is that the story is needlessly complicated. I kept hoping this documentary might discuss that, but no luck. Where is the mossbag of RL2?
My kid loves this game and I’d like to check this out with him. Can anyone tell me if this doc is kid appropriate? Thanks.
Rogue Legacy 2 is definitely the best game I played in 2022.
what game engine did you use to create the game? Godot? Unity? It looks like a blast
Rogue Legacy is one of my favorites. I can't get into RL2 because the artstyle change just doesn't appeal to me, but it's great to hear about all the in an outs and experience the game without playing it.
The people that complain about lack of content would cry like a baby at the mountain of work that goes into these.
Just bought it now on switch while watching this video! I like the art of rogue legacy 2 but still miss what glauber did for the pixel art of Duelyst.