Meinl Cymbals - Byzance Hi-Hat Comparison

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  • Опубліковано 6 лис 2017
  • Meinl Cymbals artist Eman Cervantes compares a few different hi-hats from the Byzance line of cymbals.
    The cymbals you see in this video are:
    14” Byzance Brilliant Medium Hats
    14” Byzance Traditional Medium Hats
    16” Byzance Traditional Medium Hats
    14” Byzance Jazz Thin Hats
    15” Byzance Extra Dry Dual Hats
    14” Byzance Extra Dry Medium Hats
    15” Byzance Extra Dry Medium Thin Hats
    16” Byzance Extra Dry Medium Thin Hats
    14” Byzance Dark Hats
    15” Byzance Dark Hats
    14” Byzance Vintage Sand Hats
    14” Byzance Vintage Pure Hats
    15” Byzance Vintage Pure Hats
    16” Byzance Vintage Pure Hats

КОМЕНТАРІ • 390

  • @abbdrums
    @abbdrums 6 років тому +392

    Yes! I love these seamless comparison videos.

    • @kasperilse4878
      @kasperilse4878 6 років тому

      i would love if you haven't stopped making videos. It has been over 2 months now

    • @abbdrums
      @abbdrums 6 років тому +10

      I know, I'm sorry... I've been working on some bigger projects that have required most of my time but once I'm done with those I can focus more on my channel again :)

  • @sirosvaziri
    @sirosvaziri 6 років тому +361

    Hihats aside, that groove is tiiiight. Fantastic comparison video, love watching stuff like this!

    • @KayDrums175
      @KayDrums175 5 років тому +4

      Siros Vaziri Siros wassup man love the videos

    • @mellowtron214
      @mellowtron214 3 роки тому +3

      I wish they would do cymbal comparisons with the drummer playing like 1 or 2 bars of a few different genres. Maybe start with jazz, to Latin, to rock, to metal, and end with a wide open thwack.
      Regardless, Meinl definitely put the most time or any cymbal company in making demos of their products. So it’s hard to complain that much.

    • @TrevorTD
      @TrevorTD 3 роки тому

      Meinl always does a great job of comparing their cymbals and I love it!

  • @glanemann
    @glanemann 6 років тому +150

    For the love of God, every video should be like this. Watching individual symbols online is one thing but when you get them all in one video like this, I could really listen to each one and know which one that I like. It's not like every place you go that has cymbals has them all lined up for you to use all the time.

  • @DavidMcmenemy
    @DavidMcmenemy 6 років тому +543

    Not a single pair of those sounded bad.

    • @TC-lk2ev
      @TC-lk2ev 6 років тому +13

      Yeah that's what I was thinking. They all sound really nice.

    • @anonymouserror1977
      @anonymouserror1977 5 років тому +2

      You probably had the volume off then.

    • @johnbensinger4931
      @johnbensinger4931 5 років тому +46

      xXxSteamPunkxXx this guy probably thinks sabian b8 pros are the best sounding cymbals on the market...

    • @anonymouserror1977
      @anonymouserror1977 5 років тому +7

      I am no fan of Sabi-Zil but these Meinl cymbals are just not good sounding cymbals. I have heard a couple of cymbals from this company that sound fantastic, but most sound like trash can lids...no tone...no volume....

    • @LukaS-yn4ir
      @LukaS-yn4ir 5 років тому +29

      it depends on your style and taste, they make alot of dryer cymbals which appeal to aloooot of drummers. Im a death metal drummer and I love the extra cymbals. And drummers and almost all styles love em. Sabian is great too. Paiste is just garbage except for the old 2002's, and Zildjian is just way too high pitched. I guess you prefer that though.

  • @high-poweredwellness1172
    @high-poweredwellness1172 4 роки тому +34

    Amazing how a hi-hat can give the snare a whole different feel! Nice!

  • @ayusharipirala3121
    @ayusharipirala3121 6 років тому +380

    And then there's me and my HCS...

    • @kylecurran6747
      @kylecurran6747 6 років тому +69

      When half the cymbals in this lineup cost more than the entire HCS superset ... yep

    • @zakkho7570
      @zakkho7570 6 років тому +2

      hahahah😂good one

    • @martonkardos8094
      @martonkardos8094 6 років тому +30

      HCS hi-hats and ride sound pretty good actually. Especially brass rides are awesome most of the times. The crashes sound terrible indeed, but other than that they're pretty neat for a beginner drummer.

    • @serpentstudios7768
      @serpentstudios7768 6 років тому +1

      Ayush Aripirala I use MCS, my 16' crash got a small crack.

    • @oblivionwalker8613
      @oblivionwalker8613 5 років тому +28

      HCS is better than nothing! Everyone starts somewhere.

  • @IslamFalmi
    @IslamFalmi 6 років тому +195

    Please make this for chinas, crashes, rides and what not too!

  • @louisoddie4667
    @louisoddie4667 3 роки тому +30

    after 4 years of playing and a few months hard work i’m now the proud owner of a pair of 14” jazz thin hats and wow are they gorgeous

    • @Dsher719
      @Dsher719 Рік тому +2

      Good pick!

    • @Jdrummer77
      @Jdrummer77 Рік тому

      Like the sound of those alot , great wash to them. I have the dark 14”

    • @louisoddie4667
      @louisoddie4667 Рік тому

      @@Dsher719thanks a lot man! I don’t how I went without them all these years!

    • @louisoddie4667
      @louisoddie4667 Рік тому +1

      @@Jdrummer77Used to be a huge fan of them when I was in my heavier rock phase of playing - feel like they just have a little something that other cymbals like the brilliants or traditionals lack

  • @iloveyoubebe
    @iloveyoubebe 4 роки тому +14

    Traditional 14”, Extra Dry 14” & Dark 14” are my favourites

  • @FasterToTheEnd
    @FasterToTheEnd 6 років тому +142

    great video, but would love to hear them all played washed. i find a lot of great hats based on closed sound, but when played washed, they don't hold up.

    • @ryanintopeka
      @ryanintopeka 6 років тому +11

      Second this.

    • @lucasbrucas9632
      @lucasbrucas9632 6 років тому +1

      Jason Cox what does washed mean in this scenario?

    • @ryanintopeka
      @ryanintopeka 6 років тому +15

      Lightly opened up and hit on edge like a loud fat groove might have.

    • @lucasbrucas9632
      @lucasbrucas9632 6 років тому +1

      Noise From Ryan's Basement thx

    • @tracktuary
      @tracktuary 5 років тому +11

      I'd love to hear the left foot "chick." For my typical stuff these days, I need to know what 2 and 4 are going to sound like!

  • @domagojoinky8262
    @domagojoinky8262 6 років тому +48

    My favourites are 14" Sand hats and 15" Extra dry dual hats.

    • @culturetrash3191
      @culturetrash3191 2 роки тому +1

      Those 14" hats are like what hi-hats sound like in my head.

    • @walterarevalo4792
      @walterarevalo4792 Рік тому +2

      Those 15” extra dry duals sound sooooo good!

  • @DefkalionDs
    @DefkalionDs 6 років тому +12

    Hands down the best drums/cymbals related demo on dem youtubes.
    Much kudos!

  • @Xtracheesed
    @Xtracheesed 3 роки тому

    These videos are incredibly helpful in narrowing down what to demo in person. Thanks much!

  • @Jerseab0y
    @Jerseab0y 6 років тому +8

    Best hi-hat comparison video yet. Thanks Meinl!!!

  • @davidsuprenant893
    @davidsuprenant893 4 роки тому +4

    This is the template for all manufacturers to get on board with.What a great video.Most people can't walk into a store and hear more than 2 different hats,or cymbals from the same manufacturers. This video really helps people.

  • @robbiegrier1514
    @robbiegrier1514 5 років тому +15

    Vintage Pure 14” Hats sound the best to me

  • @dancincrow
    @dancincrow 4 роки тому +1

    The best comparison video I've seen from any cymbal maker & they all sounded pretty sweet.

  • @areohbee343
    @areohbee343 2 роки тому +25

    0:00 14" Byzance Brilliant Medium Hats
    0:11 14" Byzance Traditional Medium Hats
    0:21 16" Byzance Traditional Medium Hats
    0:31 14" Byzance Jazz Thin Hats
    0:41 15” Byzance Extra Dry Dual Hats
    0:51 14" Byzance Extra Dry Medium Hats
    1:01 15" Byzance Extra Dry Medium Thin Hats
    1:11 16" Byzance Extra Dry Medium Thin Hats
    1:21 14" Byzance Dark Hats
    1:31 15” Byzance Dark Hats
    1:41 14" Byzance Vintage Sand Hats
    1:51 14" Byzance Vintage Pure Hats
    2:01 15” Byzance Vintage Pure Hats
    2:11 16" Byzance Vintage Pure Hats

  • @marekmiszczak3266
    @marekmiszczak3266 3 роки тому +50

    wow the byzance dark hats at 1:24 were actually one of two brighest sounding hats here

    • @healyhurst8159
      @healyhurst8159 3 роки тому +7

      Ironically some of Meinl's custom Darks are also brighter than their Custom Brilliants.

    • @EliPoli64
      @EliPoli64 3 роки тому +1

      @@healyhurst8159 exactly

    • @skyDN1974
      @skyDN1974 3 роки тому

      Right?! I was thinking that. I wonder why that is

    • @edabney07
      @edabney07 2 роки тому

      YES

    • @benjaminjakobsen2662
      @benjaminjakobsen2662 2 роки тому +3

      @@skyDN1974 It's because the dark series cymbals are pretty heavy compared to for example the extra dry series. I own the 15 extra dry hats and the 15 dark hats and the dark hats are much brigther and louder despite the "dark" in their name.

  • @Jaydouble-u
    @Jaydouble-u 6 років тому +18

    The 15" and 16" extra dry medium thin just sound amazing to me! Sooo tempted to replace my set of Zildjian A customs for this.

    • @stevenfederico2594
      @stevenfederico2594 10 місяців тому

      Before you replace your Zildjian’s with these try the Zildjian K hybrid, 14 1/4. Greatest hi hats I’ve ever heard.

  • @mojekh
    @mojekh 4 роки тому +2

    Best hi hat comparison I have seen!! Many thanks!

  • @mr0scary
    @mr0scary 6 років тому +67

    14" Byzance brilliant hats and 14" Byzance Dark hats.
    Best ones imo.

    • @mjmartinez3454
      @mjmartinez3454 5 років тому +1

      Same here!!!

    • @ludwigvistilite
      @ludwigvistilite 5 років тому +1

      Exactly what I thought when watching. Good ear Mr0scary!!

    • @MRay-zj4ro
      @MRay-zj4ro 5 років тому +4

      Man, have to agree, have a set of the 14” Darks myself too, but the Brilliant and the Vintage Pure edged the Dark out in my opinion. That being said not a bad sound set of hi hats in the demo which is amazing as well. Wish I had some disposable income....

    • @idahoplantguy9027
      @idahoplantguy9027 4 роки тому

      I agree as well, those definitely stood out to my ears. Also the 14" Vintage pure.

    • @kuskenigen
      @kuskenigen 4 роки тому

      M. Ray awesome! I have a pair of 14” dark as well. Sometimes they get a bit to Kling klong when open up thou. What music do you use them in?

  • @richardgrant7023
    @richardgrant7023 6 років тому +1

    Great video: interesting, concise, helpful, and well-edited.

  • @marcuscorvinus8927
    @marcuscorvinus8927 5 років тому +4

    Those jazz hats are tight. But honestly it's hard to choose on meinls' hihat lines. Two thumbs up for this demo

  • @MattHaide
    @MattHaide 6 років тому +1

    If I ever get the money to buy a set of Meinl hats, I'll for sure be returning to this video. That was super helpful! I'd love to see one of these for rides as well :)

  • @Gregsheff1
    @Gregsheff1 6 років тому +29

    I'll take one of everything.

    • @yuuri_
      @yuuri_ 3 роки тому +2

      say goodbye to your bank account

    • @calebfudrums
      @calebfudrums 3 роки тому +1

      certainly sir, that will be £44000. cash or card?

  • @yrussq
    @yrussq 6 років тому

    Awesome video where you can hear the difference and clearly understand that some of the hats are for some special mixes.

  • @jordanborders2232
    @jordanborders2232 3 роки тому +1

    this comparison video is amazing . exactly what I need , to find what I need, and save time

  • @RobAbfallDrums
    @RobAbfallDrums 5 місяців тому

    I bought the 14" Sand hats, they are tremendous! Great video, ty!

  • @mt23289
    @mt23289 3 роки тому +1

    Last weekend I was in the studio recording and used a set of byzance cymbals ( a mixture 15 inch hi hats, 20 inch heavy ride) and I can honestly say they are the best sounding cymbals I have ever used....i am 100% getting myself some 😀

  • @Neulars
    @Neulars 5 років тому

    Thanks for this beautiful comparison

  • @biffbiffton
    @biffbiffton 6 років тому

    great video. please do more comparisons like this.

  • @martinkent_
    @martinkent_ 4 роки тому +1

    How can people hate on meinl cymbals? The unique character is what makes them so artistic and beautiful.

  • @matthewsousa5470
    @matthewsousa5470 6 років тому +10

    This is the video that’s been needed

  • @antonpetrenko1687
    @antonpetrenko1687 4 роки тому

    extra dry, dark and vintage pure! wow! I cannot decide which I like the most... and of course sand hats, they sound beautiful too!

  • @Better2burnthanFade
    @Better2burnthanFade 6 років тому +1

    Perfect, more comparisons of cymbals please

  • @the6ig6adwolf
    @the6ig6adwolf 6 років тому +1

    They all sound fantastic!

  • @tillson14
    @tillson14 6 років тому

    Can you read my mind Meinl??
    Three days ago i was searching for that exact video and now baammmmm you upload one lol

  • @Lukas-kh5gu
    @Lukas-kh5gu 6 років тому +5

    AMAZING VID!! The Sand Hats...now that's real music.

  • @tbrewska69
    @tbrewska69 3 роки тому

    LOVE this comparison technique!

  • @hugobrand6196
    @hugobrand6196 6 років тому +1

    Great comparison video! Loved this!

  • @marcellbodo3375
    @marcellbodo3375 3 роки тому

    Now with the release of the big apple hats, I‘d love to see an updated version of this video!

  • @samfitz888
    @samfitz888 6 років тому

    So happy with my 14" Dark, but damn now i want a set of each! But those 16" Vintage Pure sound amazing!

  • @christianolivera8019
    @christianolivera8019 6 років тому

    Thank you so much for making this video!!

  • @dkerwood1
    @dkerwood1 5 років тому +1

    I wish more companies would do comparisons like this. I mean, every cymbal is unique, but at least a video like this gives you a ballpark idea of a sound. Dig those 14" darks.

  • @healyhurst7829
    @healyhurst7829 2 роки тому +1

    Those Brilliant 14 hats are just something else. Truly a great pair, the Byzance 14 Darks too.

  • @eddieavakian
    @eddieavakian 5 років тому +1

    Awesome video. Make more of these if you have already. Rides, crashes, stacks, etc.

  • @morgendorffer3504
    @morgendorffer3504 2 роки тому +2

    2:04 it's amazing how a 15 inch can sound so much lower and darker than the 16 inch that comes directly afterwards... such a contrast.

  • @jesseanderton2
    @jesseanderton2 5 років тому +1

    The 16" Vintage Pure set on this example sounds sooo good

  • @CallingAllDrummers
    @CallingAllDrummers 6 років тому +1

    Amazing video and I really hope you continue this on with other cymbals such as rides. But why only do some of the hi hats? I want to hear the 10"/12" traditionals ect

  • @vincent-ow8ss
    @vincent-ow8ss 4 роки тому +1

    Props to the crew foe changing the cymbals out that fast!

  • @tmaddrummer
    @tmaddrummer 4 роки тому

    Man this was fantastic! Thanks and Blessings!!!

  • @andyham6094
    @andyham6094 5 років тому

    No love for my favorite hats of all time, the 14 inch traditional thin hats. Literally the perfect hats I’ve always searched for.

  • @cremebrulee6667
    @cremebrulee6667 5 років тому +6

    15" Vintage Pure takes the cake for me

  • @bryanmcdermott77
    @bryanmcdermott77 6 років тому

    This was awesome. Do more!!

  • @stephprime
    @stephprime 4 роки тому +1

    Brilliant, Traditional, Extra Dry, Dark, Vintage Pure, all in 14" great sound!

  • @schwedenretter
    @schwedenretter 3 роки тому +2

    The stick definition of "14 dark" and "14 vintage pure" really stands out.

  • @user-il4pd9oc6s
    @user-il4pd9oc6s 6 років тому

    Best comperison video on youtube!!! For my opinion the winners are.....
    1. Traditional 14'
    2. Extra dry 14'
    3. Dark 15'
    4. Dual 15'

  • @Colo.Valenzuela
    @Colo.Valenzuela 2 роки тому

    I absolute love the traditional. What a gift for the ears!!

  • @XiyuYang
    @XiyuYang 4 роки тому

    Damn those extra drys and vintage pures, I'm in love

  • @oscarc.4575
    @oscarc.4575 6 років тому

    Byzance Dark 15" vintage pure 14" and the sand hats are my favourite byzance. My fav tho is 15" pure alloy

  • @SXI96
    @SXI96 5 років тому

    They all sound so milk chocolatey smooth, yum, amazing hi hats

  • @walterarevalo4792
    @walterarevalo4792 Рік тому

    Stared watching. Ran to my headphones. Started from the beginning. Rewatched 36 times.

  • @diversekcox
    @diversekcox 4 роки тому

    I can't make decision ugh!! They all sound great!

  • @nathanielbrice8725
    @nathanielbrice8725 Рік тому

    Seamless transitions! The standard for cymbal comparisons!

  • @patrikmachac3935
    @patrikmachac3935 4 роки тому +5

    DARK 15!!!!! 14 Dark is a little bit more bright than I would like to hear

  • @harisrizvanbegovic2728
    @harisrizvanbegovic2728 5 років тому

    Very soft, accented sound across the board. What ever we choose, we are good to go. Maybe Byzance Traditional 14" has a better sound over the others, especially with hi-hat being open. It's possible to find those hats here in Bosnia. In combination with Pearl drums - killer sound.

  • @timothycroke5307
    @timothycroke5307 5 років тому +8

    They all sound great. Meinl has incredible cymbals.

  • @speismonqui
    @speismonqui 6 років тому +3

    yep, that's great... now I want them all.

  • @whophead6837
    @whophead6837 Рік тому +2

    I really really liked the extra dry. The 15 was like a step above the already better sounding 14

    • @DrumManDan
      @DrumManDan 11 місяців тому

      I know! I’ve just ordered the 14” ones and they’re coming tomorrow, Can’t wait!!!!!

  • @steveanderson831
    @steveanderson831 4 роки тому

    Yes please, one set of each!

  • @jonathanfairmusic
    @jonathanfairmusic 4 роки тому

    Those last two Vintage Pure sound mighty nice.

  • @Bersini
    @Bersini 4 роки тому

    Listen to most of these in Pmt Birmingham, there all great but 14inch extra dry sounded best for me 👍

  • @andyham6094
    @andyham6094 4 роки тому

    Left out my favorite hats of all time!! The 14 inch byzance traditional thin hats. Perfect balance between the extra dry hats and the traditional medium hats. These hats need more love!

    • @Jeremy_Sims
      @Jeremy_Sims 4 роки тому

      Andy Ham I was thinking of getting extra duals but they seemed too thin and not enough volume, thanks for that suggestion I’ll check them out for sure!

    • @andyham6094
      @andyham6094 4 роки тому

      Jeremy Sims yeah the extra drys are great but not enough volume for live situations for my band. The traditional mediums are little too clunky for me. The traditional thins are literally the best.

  • @culturetrash3191
    @culturetrash3191 2 роки тому +1

    This video convinced me to pick up a pair of sand hats. Those 15” extra dry hats are calling my name now…

  • @quangsot
    @quangsot 5 років тому

    Excellent video. Can you guys also do a video with open hihat comparision?

  • @Dsher719
    @Dsher719 Рік тому

    Sooooo, all good. Vintage 16" at the very end won me over. I know what i want!

  • @Ramon.Mironof
    @Ramon.Mironof 4 роки тому +1

    I’ve got brilliant one
    Dark 14 sounds 👍🏻

  • @DrumRoody
    @DrumRoody 6 років тому +3

    That groove is the star of the show. Tight

  • @ryanintopeka
    @ryanintopeka 6 років тому

    I would really like to see the custom dark series in comparison if you guys can make that happen. 🙂

  • @gzarrukd
    @gzarrukd 6 років тому

    My favorites are the Byzance Brilliant 14'' hats

  • @matthiasspitz
    @matthiasspitz Рік тому +1

    In this video every single pair of hats actually sounds awesome! Maybe the drummer is just more important than the instrument 😅!! Fantastic groovin'!🙌

  • @ollieyoung9871
    @ollieyoung9871 4 роки тому +1

    Really useful vid thanks

  • @BBT609
    @BBT609 3 роки тому

    This groove goes HARD lol...having a hard time not lunging forward in a groove 😄. Trying to pinpoint a hi hat set that would just sound perfect on this PHAT groove.
    That pair of hi hats have to be those 14" Dark Hats. The quick opening is perfect 👌

  • @andysimmons311
    @andysimmons311 4 роки тому +1

    The 14” sand hats and the 14” extra dry sound sick

  • @mufakkas9731
    @mufakkas9731 Рік тому

    Perfect, thanks bought Byzance Dark 15in, Extra Dry 15in nice but more distant and Vintage Pure 15in has nice click. My Byzance Dark 15 suits me better after being left in a garage for a year, lost shine visually and sound wise, more authentic/vintage and balanced, settled in somehow.

  • @user-hb9wk1ie1o
    @user-hb9wk1ie1o 6 років тому +1

    Its just a comparison video but i can feel the groove

  • @healyhurst8159
    @healyhurst8159 3 роки тому

    Those Byzance Brilliant or Traditional hats are probably what I'll be buying..

  • @nomiS.933
    @nomiS.933 3 роки тому

    The Dual Hats, amazing.

  • @jonn443
    @jonn443 4 роки тому +6

    Byzance Extra Dry (thin) 14" won IMO.

  • @bucknasty5374
    @bucknasty5374 4 роки тому

    okay, now, i may be a bit biased because i love big cymbals, but the 16" traditionals and vintage pure HAD EVERYTHING!

  • @jkvasn
    @jkvasn 6 років тому +4

    0:30 That 14" byzance jazz sounds sweet.

    • @extalker
      @extalker 4 роки тому

      like a rattlesnake...and look awesome

  • @christraven
    @christraven 6 років тому +6

    I wonder what a sand top on a dual bottom hi hat would sound like. Aside from that, The Vintage Pure, Sand Hats, and Dual are my faves.

    • @idog2rs
      @idog2rs 6 років тому

      I would love to hear that combo too, but the sand hats only come in 14" while the dual hats only come in 15". Duals and Jazz Thins are my faves in this vid :)

    • @christraven
      @christraven 6 років тому

      Man...why you gotta crush my dreams like that? :)
      Okay, then how about a 15 " dark bottom with a 15" dual top? On rewatching this, the 15" darks were nice and crispy, and might play well with the dual hat top sound. I'd solve the problem myself, and just buy all of them to figure out what works, but there's that whole problem of being broke.

  • @dylsdrumz7081
    @dylsdrumz7081 2 роки тому

    Love dual hi hats they’re are one of my faves but the extras dry Byzantine is def the best

  • @firmans12
    @firmans12 5 років тому +3

    Damn all of them sound awesome should i buy all of them ?

  • @olidacombe
    @olidacombe 5 років тому

    So useful! Thanks

  • @markwilliam6745
    @markwilliam6745 4 роки тому

    Well... they all sound great

  • @BananaManPL
    @BananaManPL 4 роки тому

    Nevermind the hats, all Byzances are awesome. The snare, man, that snare!

  • @christianmeza4529
    @christianmeza4529 3 роки тому

    I like the last one and the byzance dark and vintage

  • @Ironsvillage
    @Ironsvillage 4 роки тому

    Forgot the 13" Dark hats :) which sound amazing as well btw