I think the performance would be pretty similar. The only reason I didn’t test it was because the old cooler didn’t have compatible mounting. I may do a short on it at some point if there is a bunch of interest. 😁
Haha, yeah from afar it looks better, then you realize it's more plastic. It does look like they brought back the copper slug core though, which i think they removed for a while.
@@XeonProductions can confirm, removed my full aluminum intel heatsink not that long ago from my pc for one of thoose AliExpress tower coolers. 20C difference, worth every bit coming at 25 bucks. Works amazingly well, but i must warn: they come with no instructions and are a nightmare to install even if you know what you are doing
Dawid is getting put on the CPU Abuse Register. That poor 12900k. Also, the fact some of the Intel chips end in 00F has only just occurred to me. If only they were actually oofs and not pretty damned good. Missed meme opportunity 🤷
This is probably one of a handful of channels where I sit through ad reads just because they still manage to make me chuckle. I'll have you know I'd happily be matchies with my dog, thank you very much!
What?! You're spending your day at 14⁰ Celsius??? Damn! I'm in Canada and set my thermostat to 19⁰, and all my friends are setting theirs to 21-24. You're a brave man! Great for the PC though.
After running a conversion to a more sensible temperature numbering system I have determined that he was indeed in a damned cold room for indoor temps. Yours makes much more sense as a low end indoor temp range though I'd prefer more about 70 myself.
I wonder how this compares to older Intel stock coolers. While the more recent ones are all crap aluminum ones. Older one had nice copper cores. I remember my old it 2500 running fine on the stock cooler for a long time. It was made for like 100 watts of power. Heck the SFF community used to love older stock coolers as one of the decent and easier to find sub 40mm coolers untill noctua made the L9.
Because thats all you get. Sub 40mm aftermarket coolers just didnt justify having to purchase as many... as hard it is to beleive were worse than the intel stock coolers at the time
This man is one of the few people on this planet that makes me laugh out lout like at least twice a minute and I can’t thank him enough for that cuz it really makes my day 🤣🤣🤣❤️💪🔥
An idea for Dawid's Deathmatch Arena of Death is a stock cooler showdown, comparing the new/old Intel stock coolers to the amd Wraith coolers, maybe locking TDP or something to make it a fair comparison
Well the AMD coolers are actually decently serious business. That Intel stock cooler actually flexed when Dawid pressed the sides in. Not promising at all! It's actually scary to think of what can happen when you have a really warm climate that ISN'T Canada thrown in the mix too. That cpu will go from a nice cool 100+ degrees to something like 120. If it didn't do a thermal shutdown before then, that is.
what would really help these stock coolers, is extra Z height of aluminium, a copper vapor bell at the bottom leading to a single heat pipe that runs up the center of the copper heatsink
Literally just making the bottom flat would massively improve Temps, rectangular cpus don't exactly fare the best when the only contact with the cooler is a circle
@@dilutedoxygen I was referencinbg the extra Z height it has to travel through the lw w/m*k aluminium. An extremely simple vapor chamber and a single 'heat pipe' thats literally just a hole drilled through the alumium slug would work better, heck, with how cheap drilling holes is, you could get 4 of them in there and cap it off with something simple, like some more aluminum that is slightly oversized for the hole
Always interesting to see parts used in ways they were not intended. So I guess I came to the right place. I should also mention that 80+ rating is *not* a good indicator of the quality of a power supply.
You should see how the Intel stock cooler works on one of those weird Intel mounting AMD mobos that come in a prebuilt. I wanna see how they compare to a high end OC'd AMD chip.
"It is 80 Plus Titanium rated, which as we know, brings all the boys to the yard" Was amazing. Damn right, it's better than yours. I'm so sad to see the 12900k hit 110C
I still think this cooler deserves its "better than nothing" award. But personally I would absolutely replace it with a cheap tower cooler if I had the cash. But if you're an office worker and noise isn't a problem, this cooler is perfect.
and get like 65c max temps? I got like 80c on my 12400, and the cooler was running at 80% speed dont forget the 12300 is a 65w 4 core cpu so it really doesn't produce much heat at all, on my old 6700 I'd get 65c max temps on a cinebench run with the old stock cooler
@@miweneia You seem to be lucky. My 12500 also hits the high 90#s and sometimes throttles in Cinebench. This stock cooler is quite bad, even by Intel standards. There are $20 coolers out there that do a better job.
@@miweneia ok maybe i chose the wrong "words"... take a 12400 or above and then u will sacrifice the stock cooler! Anyway it was more likely a "meme"...a small joke! but for the purpose of telling everyone that intels cpus are hot! And i know it, cause i used it for myself. not with a tiny aircooler. with full costum loop and even with this in cinebench the cpus reach 85c instandly!
I dont think my CPU has ever reached over 40 degrees celsius, even pegged at 100% (happens quite a lot because it is an old 95W bullooser CPU) I highly reccomend the 7$ Arctic freezer 7 pro
12400 runs way coooler while undervolted by 100mV. Would've been good to include this, as I brought temps down to 45c in r23 multi-core benchmark, with the Arctic Freezer eSports 34 Duo. Really curious what the stock would do with UV.
OK seriously that Thermaltake Tower 100 looks beautiful. Especially the gold/orange like color. Unfortunately I can't find it anywhere. Not that I would buy it as I don't have money to buy a PC system, but still, GORGEOUS.
Thanks! Would like to see what the minimum air cooler needed to run the 12900k. For instance, would a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo or something similar handle the job?
Hear me out: -i9-12900k -in an Intel NUC sized pc -passively cooled -overclocked to an all core frequency of 5.5 GHz -overvolted by at least +250mv -overwatted to make power draw even higher Place your bets: what happens when you click the power button?
I also hate the mechanism for mounting. Everyone seems to just mount it without effort, I had a good 30min fight with that sucker the first time I placed in the MoBo. And I didn’t really felt it clicked all the way trough. But my 12400F never gets over 70ºC, so I think I am fine.
I recently built a system with the i5 12500 and the stock cooler and i found it pretty appalling. it was LOUD! Also the system did not survive a 10 minute run of Cinebench R23 without hitting the high 90's and even eventually 100 degrees on one of the cores. Cooler was correctly mounted, side panel was off, ambient was 23 degrees. I suppose it's kinda okay, albeit loud, on the locked i5's and below but it is quite bad compared to even 20$ alternatives. you get a lot of noise for free.
"The tower 100 comes with plenty of ventilation so your components don't have to run hot" *looks at my gpu at 80+ degrees in my tower 100, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm*
If you want to keep using Battlefield 5 for some testing I suggest putting a user.cfg text file into the main directory of BFV and add the command "GameTime.MaxVariableFps 600" (without the "), this will increase the max fps of the game to 600 or whatever value you wanna give this command.
That copper surface is in the best possible position…just below the motor fan which creates its own heat on top of the cpu while air goes through the sides…..only.
Codpiece is my favorite medieval clothing item. It has form and function, and it's a hilarious word. The word comes from the "Middle English" word for scrotum, which was 'cod' I wonder what they called codfish, then, unless they named the fish after the ballsack, which is just rude to the poor fish. It's not *that* ugly and weird looking (I'm talking about the fish. Dude scrotums are fairly hilarious and weird looking)
can you compare all the intel stock coolers and see what one preforms the best, (and the old one from like a optiplex, the current dell cooler, the 12th gen intel stock cooler and perhaps 10th, and 11th gen) I know that it sounds time consuming but it seems like a good video and gives us an idea how intel and dell have done in the past 10 years when it comes to cooling
the 10900k really be like that "this is fine" dog
Fr
12900k?
@@FaceyDuck The 10900k can run at a much higher core temp, hence the joke…
Haha!! Yeah, it really handled abuse well in that previous video.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff did you see Pugets data on the failure rates for those cpus? They have such a low rate its kinda crazy
You can't convince me this is not the exact usecase Intel had in mind for this cooler.
Haha!! according to them, it’s not overheating until it crashes, so I think you’re right.
Is it just me, or do those Thermaltake cases look like a popcorn machine at a movie theatre?
Lol they do a little :D
I was thinking they looked like a claw/crane machine from the front of the grocery store
I agree
Mmm i cant remove the picture feom my head now...
Most people say something like that about it
I wonder how the new Intel stock cooler compares to the old one. It’ll probably be in the next episode of Dawid’s Deathmatch Arena of Death, hope so.
It's probably the same thing just made less uglier. You know how the say goes:
Same fecal matter, different color.
@@ozmobozo nah. the new one is a lot better because it's heat sink doubles the size compared to the old ones.
@@ozmobozo hey atleast it can cool mid range cpus, good option for people with low power budget builds
You can actually mount socket 1200 coolers on Asus z690 motherboards. So it should be possible to test it.
I think the performance would be pretty similar. The only reason I didn’t test it was because the old cooler didn’t have compatible mounting. I may do a short on it at some point if there is a bunch of interest. 😁
Some say the 12900K is still coming down in temperature even after Dawid's PC was switched off a week ago
an ember forever
Tip: Frostbite has no engine frame limit, you can use the console command "GameTime.MaxVariableFps 0" to unlock the FPS
Me seeing the photos: "oh, it has more and better positioned metal fins to dissipate more heat. Nice!"
Me seeing the final product: "oh"
Haha, yeah from afar it looks better, then you realize it's more plastic. It does look like they brought back the copper slug core though, which i think they removed for a while.
I had the exact same moment with it. 😂
@@XeonProductions can confirm, removed my full aluminum intel heatsink not that long ago from my pc for one of thoose AliExpress tower coolers. 20C difference, worth every bit coming at 25 bucks.
Works amazingly well, but i must warn: they come with no instructions and are a nightmare to install even if you know what you are doing
Dawid is getting put on the CPU Abuse Register. That poor 12900k.
Also, the fact some of the Intel chips end in 00F has only just occurred to me. If only they were actually oofs and not pretty damned good.
Missed meme opportunity 🤷
Haha!! Yeah really is a missed opportunity.
Dammm we definitely gotta use that one 😂. I had to read your comment twice and then I realised it and I was like: 00FFF 🤣😭
This is probably one of a handful of channels where I sit through ad reads just because they still manage to make me chuckle. I'll have you know I'd happily be matchies with my dog, thank you very much!
What?! You're spending your day at 14⁰ Celsius??? Damn! I'm in Canada and set my thermostat to 19⁰, and all my friends are setting theirs to 21-24.
You're a brave man! Great for the PC though.
For the PC great is -14 lol
After running a conversion to a more sensible temperature numbering system I have determined that he was indeed in a damned cold room for indoor temps. Yours makes much more sense as a low end indoor temp range though I'd prefer more about 70 myself.
I wonder how this compares to older Intel stock coolers. While the more recent ones are all crap aluminum ones. Older one had nice copper cores. I remember my old it 2500 running fine on the stock cooler for a long time. It was made for like 100 watts of power. Heck the SFF community used to love older stock coolers as one of the decent and easier to find sub 40mm coolers untill noctua made the L9.
Because thats all you get. Sub 40mm aftermarket coolers just didnt justify having to purchase as many... as hard it is to beleive were worse than the intel stock coolers at the time
This man is one of the few people on this planet that makes me laugh out lout like at least twice a minute and I can’t thank him enough for that cuz it really makes my day 🤣🤣🤣❤️💪🔥
Boosting Intel stock cooler?
I hear the helicopter starting off the helipad!
Worse then my MacBook mid 2015 pro or my PS4 💀
12900k is crazy! Even in this video I could see the frame pacing was better than the 12600k.
An idea for Dawid's Deathmatch Arena of Death is a stock cooler showdown, comparing the new/old Intel stock coolers to the amd Wraith coolers, maybe locking TDP or something to make it a fair comparison
Yea would love to see that!
Well the AMD coolers are actually decently serious business. That Intel stock cooler actually flexed when Dawid pressed the sides in. Not promising at all!
It's actually scary to think of what can happen when you have a really warm climate that ISN'T Canada thrown in the mix too. That cpu will go from a nice cool 100+ degrees to something like 120. If it didn't do a thermal shutdown before then, that is.
Love the silly content. Much needed tech videos we need!!
Using an i9 with a stock cooler is like sending child soilders armed with nerf guns against a battalion of tanks
I like how this is right after Jayz video about how stock coolers are good enough now
Well Dawid, you have exactly the same layout in afterburner on screen stats display. Keep up the splendid work on the channel !
The CPU is so hot that my hometown covered in wildfire smog
what would really help these stock coolers, is extra Z height of aluminium, a copper vapor bell at the bottom leading to a single heat pipe that runs up the center of the copper heatsink
Literally just making the bottom flat would massively improve Temps, rectangular cpus don't exactly fare the best when the only contact with the cooler is a circle
@@dilutedoxygen I was referencinbg the extra Z height it has to travel through the lw w/m*k aluminium.
An extremely simple vapor chamber and a single 'heat pipe' thats literally just a hole drilled through the alumium slug would work better, heck, with how cheap drilling holes is, you could get 4 of them in there and cap it off with something simple, like some more aluminum that is slightly oversized for the hole
Always interesting to see parts used in ways they were not intended. So I guess I came to the right place.
I should also mention that 80+ rating is *not* a good indicator of the quality of a power supply.
Yo that medieval torture device at 1:24 does not look like a good time... Not a great time to be an Intel CPU belonging to Dawid
Ambient temperature and case airflow is very important when comparing thermals
You should see how the Intel stock cooler works on one of those weird Intel mounting AMD mobos that come in a prebuilt. I wanna see how they compare to a high end OC'd AMD chip.
Thank you. I'm on a budget and it looks like the stock cooler works fine for a 12400f
Congratulations on 400k. I remember when you started
"It is 80 Plus Titanium rated, which as we know, brings all the boys to the yard"
Was amazing. Damn right, it's better than yours.
I'm so sad to see the 12900k hit 110C
Dawid rider:your soul is stained with innocent games,feel their pain.
CPU:aaah🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
man, my 13700 was like - did u forget to remove the plastic from the cooler, I'm sweating.
Not gonna lie, the "set fire to Indonesia" line really got me.
Today, I learned how much of a mad lad you actually are. 14C ambient? Who sets the thermostat to be that cold?
I had a stock cooler on the 8400 and it would thermal throttle almost immediately. This looks to be much better.
I still think this cooler deserves its "better than nothing" award.
But personally I would absolutely replace it with a cheap tower cooler if I had the cash. But if you're an office worker and noise isn't a problem, this cooler is perfect.
if u want to put this "cooler" to the limit....take a 12300 cpu with stock settings und run 1 cinebench run!....thats it!
and get like 65c max temps? I got like 80c on my 12400, and the cooler was running at 80% speed
dont forget the 12300 is a 65w 4 core cpu so it really doesn't produce much heat at all, on my old 6700 I'd get 65c max temps on a cinebench run with the old stock cooler
@@miweneia You seem to be lucky. My 12500 also hits the high 90#s and sometimes throttles in Cinebench. This stock cooler is quite bad, even by Intel standards. There are $20 coolers out there that do a better job.
@@miweneia ok maybe i chose the wrong "words"...
take a 12400 or above and then u will sacrifice the stock cooler!
Anyway it was more likely a "meme"...a small joke!
but for the purpose of telling everyone that intels cpus are hot!
And i know it, cause i used it for myself.
not with a tiny aircooler. with full costum loop and even with this in cinebench the cpus reach 85c instandly!
"which as we all know, brings the boys to the yard" took me out lol
Dear god watching that 12900K overheating is like watching a public execution
I dont think my CPU has ever reached over 40 degrees celsius, even pegged at 100% (happens quite a lot because it is an old 95W bullooser CPU) I highly reccomend the 7$ Arctic freezer 7 pro
Those CPUs are a completely different kind of beast, if I recall correctly, the max temp for those is around 60 C so they are not really comparable
@@SpaceLion949 For FX 6300 it is 70.3, witch is one of the better in terms of temperature tolerance, but It is still a CPU using almost 100W
3:42 very nice temp, as expected of stock cooler
This is a great way to heat my room over the winter. :)
Me being a laptop gamer switching to desktop: Ah yeah, 90 degrees celsius is fine. No problem
I wonder how many others turn the volume up when the intro music starts playing. It's so good
Those screws are also available on aliexpress :D 1.6 EUR per 10 pieces if anyone is interested , just search for thumb screw
This was such a good video!
And we have reached 400k les gooo!! you deserved it!
This cooler reminds me of the old socket 370 Thermaltake Orb coolers... but it's just a revamped 65w stock Intel cooler with some plastic bling.
12400 runs way coooler while undervolted by 100mV. Would've been good to include this, as I brought temps down to 45c in r23 multi-core benchmark, with the Arctic Freezer eSports 34 Duo. Really curious what the stock would do with UV.
The thermaltake cases are actually clean ngl
OK seriously that Thermaltake Tower 100 looks beautiful. Especially the gold/orange like color. Unfortunately I can't find it anywhere. Not that I would buy it as I don't have money to buy a PC system, but still, GORGEOUS.
Thanks! Would like to see what the minimum air cooler needed to run the 12900k. For instance, would a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo or something similar handle the job?
Hear me out:
-i9-12900k
-in an Intel NUC sized pc
-passively cooled
-overclocked to an all core frequency of 5.5 GHz
-overvolted by at least +250mv
-overwatted to make power draw even higher
Place your bets: what happens when you click the power button?
The power of the sun in the palm of my hand
I also hate the mechanism for mounting. Everyone seems to just mount it without effort, I had a good 30min fight with that sucker the first time I placed in the MoBo.
And I didn’t really felt it clicked all the way trough.
But my 12400F never gets over 70ºC, so I think I am fine.
It's like "let's cool the Gobi Desert with a 90mm fan and a pair of icicles" ! 🤣🤣
When your processor hits 230 Degrees: "Oh, apparently the 12900K does not like being at 110 degrees." Yeah, no shit.
7:05 best reaction ever
WHy the actual f*^K was this video not sponsored by Linooode! this is the type of video that intro was made for! You've won this round Thermaltake
Hello Dawid I just wanted to say your videos are very entertaining and fun to watch. Keep up the good work brother !
I recently built a system with the i5 12500 and the stock cooler and i found it pretty appalling. it was LOUD! Also the system did not survive a 10 minute run of Cinebench R23 without hitting the high 90's and even eventually 100 degrees on one of the cores.
Cooler was correctly mounted, side panel was off, ambient was 23 degrees.
I suppose it's kinda okay, albeit loud, on the locked i5's and below but it is quite bad compared to even 20$ alternatives. you get a lot of noise for free.
i work with be quiet as well and the quality of there products is insane
35 min to "get it off" impressive
I may have to try this thermaltake case, thanks Dawid, good excuse to buy a mini itx board
Do you write the copy for your sponsor's ads? I can imagine them telling you, "As long as you say it's pretty and smells nice, say what you want."
Welp with those temps... I think we can fry eggs at this point.
Can't imagine living in 14 degrees celsius. Im freezing at 20. Lol.
Not bullying you? What is a Thiddyeiddy Ti? 🤣
"The tower 100 comes with plenty of ventilation so your components don't have to run hot" *looks at my gpu at 80+ degrees in my tower 100, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm*
NEW OUTRO MUSIC?!?!?! I can‘t believe it!
I watched the 100c part several times, cold as crap here in Texas so like having a open fire in front of me.
Open up that case and I'm sure the temps will drop by at least 10 degrees
so THATS where the hipitch sound im hearing is comming from.....
lol that thermaltake chassi lookslike a popcorn machine^^
with what cpu cooler should i pair a 11600k?
That Noise 😬
If you want to keep using Battlefield 5 for some testing I suggest putting a user.cfg text file into the main directory of BFV and add the command "GameTime.MaxVariableFps 600" (without the "), this will increase the max fps of the game to 600 or whatever value you wanna give this command.
I hope the thermaltake sponsorship money covers the cost of melted I9 silicon
3:25 oh man Dawid, your examples are going to kill me one day, you are hilarious :D
3:25 What the fuck is going on-😀
Brings all the boys to the yard 🤣
Nice video and cooler, looks luckily better. Because the old one was a mess.
That copper surface is in the best possible position…just below the motor fan which creates its own heat on top of the cpu while air goes through the sides…..only.
57F, damn you really chilling in that office.
"So you can easily match it with the color of your dog"
What about cats tough?
9,000 mhz clock on your vram? Wtf? "IT'S OVER 9000," :O
12900K: "please sir... let me die..."
the cooler that comes on the non-K i9s is much larger and actually has fins that go the whole way up
You should use some Blender renders as a benchmark, such as the BMW scene. Those can make CPUs and GPUs pretty toasty when under a full Blender load.
14°C aren't a good indoor temp 🥶 But I understand, it's freaking cold outside and electricity cost a shite ton now a days 😱
should do followup using a Noctua or be quiet cooler...
Codpiece is my favorite medieval clothing item. It has form and function, and it's a hilarious word.
The word comes from the "Middle English" word for scrotum, which was 'cod'
I wonder what they called codfish, then, unless they named the fish after the ballsack, which is just rude to the poor fish. It's not *that* ugly and weird looking (I'm talking about the fish. Dude scrotums are fairly hilarious and weird looking)
You could get out an older case with a side air intake with the tunnel to the cpu cooler and test again .
Holy shit, You keep it 57 F in your house? We stay around 70 to 71.
I thought it was mildly hilarious that you were trying to melt a CPU while playing Battlefield... in a snow setting
That's only the 2nd time I've seen Dawid SCRAM a CPU!
14 degrees ambient. Do you live in a fridge?
If that was my 10900k you would of needed to call the fire department
Dawid has arrived at the same design logic apple engineers used in the Intel era
Dawid loves to grope the new cooler
Wait, this is 2 years ago??
If you'd ran cinebench a couple of times the plastic shroud would have melted.
MSC (or SMC for our Quebec friends) will be reporting record February temperatures and we know why!
“Set fire to Indonesia” lol
can you compare all the intel stock coolers and see what one preforms the best, (and the old one from like a optiplex, the current dell cooler, the 12th gen intel stock cooler and perhaps 10th, and 11th gen) I know that it sounds time consuming but it seems like a good video and gives us an idea how intel and dell have done in the past 10 years when it comes to cooling