The Cheapest Amazon Pre-Built "Gaming" PC is Ridiculous...
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
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I bought the cheapest gaming Pre-Built on Amazon, and as is always the case, it's wild.
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When we see "Cheapest" and "dedicated gpu", we all know it is mighty GT 710!
it is GT 210
@@cetinkaya_metal g100
Yeah ಠ﹏ಠ
Why not a 610?
@@sammy_1_1 it dosent taste as good
It genuinely, unironically warms my heart when someone puts a lot of care and effort into cable managing a pc that absolutely doesn't warrant that level of care and effort.
Its honestly kind of sad😢
I do this whenever I'm building a system... regardless of how crappy the components. Anything worth doing is worth doing (that's not a typo).
The irony of this tiny pc with a GT 710 having way more airflow than that Dell prebuilt with a 3070 in it!
yeah! they just put cables and a ton of stuff in the place where ventilation is so that is making it realy hard to breathe ESPECIALY with an RTX 3070 inside !
And with the 710 sipping a small 19 watts of power at max “load”, the thing is like Antarctica in that case :P
@@Thewaterspirit57I'm 6 months later
@@friedchicken3375thanks for pointing out the obvious.
@@eliasroflchopper3006 you're wellcome
That is actually one of the most impressive cabling jobs I've seen with a non-sleeved power supply.
have you had a nice warm cup of lenode yet it will wake up up very quickly🤣
Dawid - "Do you want to see a video where I take a Dell and "
Everyone - "YES"
Haha!! Fair enough. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff haha Dawid I'm actually watching this video on my Optiplex that I added some ram and a graphics card to. It has worked splendid for me and I only spend $180 on mine in total. My hat is off to you sir! I was inspired by your last video on the subject.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff A video with a refurbished Dell Optiplex with adding more RAM, SSD and a graphics card. It might be hard pressed to find a good graphics card. It would also be a good comparision to see performance difference between Windows 10 and Linux OS (such as Ubuntu/Linux Mint) for gaming on a refurbished desktop
@@DawidDoesTechStuff When i need a good laugh :) Trust Dawid and Company
@@DawidDoesTechStuff the cheapest gaming pc on amazon that's good is a steam deck with a 1tb ssd ;)
Power Man is the PSU brand of InWin - they’re usually bundled with their cases or used in OEM pre-builts. They are low-end but fine, especially for a system like this.
Thanks nice to know.
no nuclear bomb today :)
so, better than gigabyte, good to know
This is the comment David was talking about. Thanks mate.
So not a atomic bomb?
Having just built a PC in a smaller Cooler Master case & struggled with making all the spare power supply cables somewhat tidy, I admire what a good job the seller has done with cable management.
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I think the case is pretty nice! Not sure if there's much for fan mounting, but airflow wise, it looks pretty nice for being a little case!
you can basically mount any spare fan in ventilation holes, so it's pretty good on this side
and it's not even that small, i've triple fan 5700xt and it fits perfectly fine
I'd like to see a video where you take all the prebuilds and budget systems you've amassed and try to build 2 systems, 1 the best of all the parts, 2 the worst of all the parts and just see what happens :D
nice idea i would also love to see that
Yes!!!
I was wondering what does he do with these prebuilds after he's done with them ,I don't think he keeps them
@@mehdiahmed7836 Maybe, though he must hold onto a few since a handful of follow up videos show them again.
Temps go up or down, fps goes up or down.
Not exactly a mystery...
Whenever I hear "Amazon" and "gaming pc" together I get scared
*shiver me timber’s*
Unless I am watching a South American Doco whenever I hear Amazon I go 🤬 never again
I think a good follow-up would be to try to scrape something together substantially better with the exact same budget, Optiplex or not.
I built a machine around 2006 with a µATX board and a ThermalTake Sonic Tower (one of the very first widespread tower coolers, which were just coming up at the time) in a big tower case; that gave off a similarly mismatched vibe, especially as it didn't even have a graphics card to keep that huge cooler company on the mainboard.
"THE FUTURE" and "THE PAST" transition is brilliant
Haha!! Thank you. Was hoping the joke wasn't too lame. 😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Scott Manley did this all the time when he was playing KSP and pumping out Vids about that. Always cool.
Even before watching this I bet my 2 cents the GPU is a gt 710.
Edit: correct. 😂
I was thinking 1030. I guess my expectations were a little too high.
lol
@@luckyzonkey8027 too high
I said 650 :(
I thought it was the HD 5450. Same trash, different brand!
Your channel is so fun I find myself binging on it often. Thanks.
Great vid Dawid! Always a pleasure watching them.
An ITX board inside an mATX case, inside an "E-ATX" Box - Your Russian Dolls analogy held up well here Dawid! :D
In terms of storage device, I came up with this ultra Matryoshka setup plan: dual micro SD to single mini card (mPCIE/mSATA), dual mini card to single 2.5 inch SATA (look it up, there's a really neat adaptor of this sort, even supporting RAID), triple 2.5 inch SATA to single 3.5 inch HDD (IcyDock makes those and they are built to a quite high standard), and finally quintuple 3.5 inch HDD to triple 5.25 ODD, which is fairly easily achievable with old school full tower office PCs.
That's, like how many, 60 micro SD in total? And 1920 GB worth of storage if that's 60x32G cards set up in all RAID 0? I wonder how the thermal will be like if anything ever ran through such a monstrosity.
@@funghiman8492 You're one sick puppy, I like you 😂
@@funghiman8492 im curious what that'd show with a benchmark
Considering you did a whole UA-cam review instead of an Amazon review, they should give you double Amazon gift cards!
Also, if you didn't already know, technically asking for reviews in exchange for Amazon gift cards are against Amazon's TOS
If it's against TOS why don't they ban the sellers?
@@gamin546 Since Amazon encourages scalpers I'd almost call this a minor infraction ;)
@@gamin546 they do. But only when they are big enough. They don't really care unless enough people report it
But every seller does that😂
@@valkasolidor6727 how exactly does Amazon encourage scalpers
powerman is made by FSP and is actually a pretty good PSU Dawid. It was really well known back in the day (10+ years ago) as always decent for what it was.. up there along with the antecs.
I love your videos man, keep up the good work
3 kill streak for no VD? Gotta go for that nuke Dawid!
Only 22 more prebuilts
Oof, the ultimate challenge.
Would definitely like to see if that dell+Old GPU combo is still a viable option in today's market. 👍
Yeah I'd love to see him do something like that, been a while
Buying a graphics card right now isn't viable
I'm wondering how old the GPU will be :) i have a 1050Ti and i can play Deathloop at mostly 60 FPS...so i wanna see what counts as "old GPU" :)
@@Atropos148 you could probably do a 500 to 600 dollar build with a new 1650 just have to figure out which processor has the power to match 1650 maybe even make it a sff build
@@horacegentleman3296 bought a 7970 for $64 on eBay for my son's PC. It works for a 5 year old 🤣
great video dawid does tech stuff great video well done keep up the good work brother
my man your enthusiasm is contagious and it is such a fresh breath of air. at least for me, thank you so much for that.
i kinda feel like Dawid has a dedicated room in his house that it's main purpose is to store his collection of E-Waste
Let's hold hands in the E-Waste room🙄 👉👈
I can already see Dawid making a video where he puts a 3080 in this calculator of a PC
YESSSSS I WANT THAT
I am honestly hoping he does that
its going to be bottleneck city
population: Dawid
Haha!! Fair enough.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff well get the xplosion cam ready then
Great video as always. Hoping the OptiPlex video is incoming. Perhaps a few other options Lenovo / HP / Acer + GPU showdown?
I actually really love that cooler master case. I've built in it a few times and it's a solid case. Only thing I don't like about it is the way the psu is pushed back because of the weird opening for it
does two sticks of ddr4 do anything for gpu performance?🤔
@@raven4k998 well depends, 2 sticks of ddr4 will give better performance than 2 sticks of ddr3, besides that dual channel ram will improve gaming performance.
That keyboard genuinely looks half decent! Impressive
Yeah! It really wasn't bad.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff nice!
The mouse is close to what wargaming tossed out for world of tanks i own one.
@@Wolfpackgameroh! Weird /:
That's a Skytech KB and Mouse combo.
Skytech makes mid/high range prebuilts with name brand components. Although the KB and Mouse are OEM, they can take as fair bit of abuse.
Disclaimer: This was NOT a Skytech system. 🤣
The big question here is .... can it run Far Cry 6? 😬
no lmao
🤣
Maybe on 480p and lowest settings, 🤣
Hahaha!! Not likely. 😁
If you measure it in seconds per frame and not frames per second, sure it will! :D
I think you got the Cry part right.
I started to watch u to help me pick out a rebuilt and i have been watch since idk why i love these vid so much but i love your vids
i have that same case for a budget build i just finished. the psu install area is ...odd... but there quite a bit of space on the back for cable management. if youre running ssds i advise using shorter than stand cables. those dust filters flop off rather easily and the side panel io looks neat till you try to plug up headphones and that little panel flexes inward
The CPU/GPU pairing equivalent of Danny DeVito and Rhea Perlman and I love them all.
Inside Arnold Schwarzenegger's body
imagine adding a second stick of ram getting it to run in dual channel I wonder if it would run better or explode from a power overload
Yeah, totally do the Optiplex thing! Also, given this machine has a CPU you've not seen before, I think you should have tested to see how much of a performance hit single-channel RAM offered, especially when testing using the iGPU.
My first PC, a few years back now, was a rig I bought from a buddy with a bad Mobo which I replaced with a r5 1600, with 8g ram (this was when ram was super expensive in 2018) and I ran that with the 670 that was on the old rig. Over the years I’ve just upgraded a bit at a time.
I actually used this case for my build, really good and easy to build in for the price.
You gotta love Dawid for his amazing content!
the same video every week?
@@robwhitmore3040 he does other things! but if it works for him and you watched - suppose it doesn't. Why not ask him to do other stuff? Don't be a moron
The coolest pc case but with a gt710, Why?
🤔You mean Looks not Temps right???
"we can't see how hot it's going" *proceeds to show the temps in the middle of HWmonitor at 9:12
I think that was for the GT 710, unless I missed something. 😅
I love watching this series! (Do more please 🙏🏼🙏🏼)
Would to see the best upgrade scenario on this machine. Good content as always!
Look forward to the Dell Optiplex. It's still viable but depends on how cheap and how recent the Optiplex is. They also have various forms and models so it's surprisingly complex yet simple enough to work with!
I have one and it's a solid build with really janky stuff going on on the board. Power connecter is really strange. Had to get an adapter to change out the PSU.
I love the commentary on these videos. So funny.
Tip for you in regards to the E-Waste accessories you get with these rigs - Keep them! The braided cables are fantastic for repairing usb cables on higher quality devices and the internal components are good replacement parts for better hardware! May not save you a lot of MONEY but it'll save you a lot of TIME in waiting for components/parts to arrive!
I love that case. I have been seeing it on quite a few youtubers videos. I built my daughters gaming PC in that case and it was a great experience!
Agreed, my main PC is in one of these cases and the cooling is superb. Edit: I do have 6 fans though, on a 3in, 3 out set-up.
It's a neat little case! I think Oz Talks hardware used one for ages.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff wish you could share pics in the comments. Would love to see what you think of it!
Built a gaming PC for a relative recently. Optiplex Tower with i5-3470 and 16GB RAM I got for $40, a $20 SSD and a $200 used 1050ti on eBay. Not a bad little PC for less than $300.
$60 Optiplex i7-2600 and a $80 GTX 960 2gb here, it's a beast for the money. I'd have preferred a 1050ti for the extra vram, but they were around $250 when I was looking. Considering I bought one new for $139 back in the day I couldn't bring myself to overpay that much.
The both of you built nice systems honestly
Strong enough to run games from the golden age (pre microtransactions), and it'll run some modern games
Thumbs up to the both of you!
Legitimately an amazingly built and paired together system. I’d definitely own it.
I still have an AMD A series APU based desktop.
I bought it in about 2012-13 when these things came out.
It was the first and to my knowledge only AMD product to feature crossfire between the built in GPU and external GPU which I tool advantage of.
The components were relatively cheap at the time, and it was halfway decent for games of that era, but it became outdated near instantly.
It does still serve as a general purpose PC to this day and performs this task admirably.
well makes you wonder how much the igpu is screwed by the single channel ram situation
@@raven4k998 eh... doesn't matter much today. By standards of today that thing is a potato.
@@dgurevich1 yeah it's just that little voice in the back of my head wondering how much single channel nerfed it would it atleast have been able to load the whole world with dual channel fps would likely have been the same due to it being pure crap though
Dawid's videos are the only ones where I watch the sponsor plugs all the way through. The animations and inside jokes are worth it.
You should definitely see if the dell OptiPlex + old graphics card route is still viable in late 2021. I would be excited to see the performance and what gpu + OptiPlex variant you would pick.
Keep up the good work Dawid!
a farmer from Ohio was abducted by aliens which probed his butt very very thoroughly they left not crack or crevasse unexplored in there🤣
i bought a power man psu around 10 years ago for a budget system because the amazon reviews were actually good and very cheap price ... and it still works to this day with no issues at all
I have that case and I love it, I put 2 140mm fans in the front and it runs really nice,not the best, but for a small factor case I love it.
Out of the entire set you got, salvage the case, I'm using one of those and it allows some very "unusual" desktop configurations in it.
Thanks Dawid, you got me to picture that farmer getting his shit pushed in by a xenomorph. I'm sure that'll haunt me all day. 🤣🤣
Actually, another thought. This case has such great airflow. Run a test with another configuration inside and benchmark it? I actually like the case and wonder what it can truly due to keep temps down.
Nice to see a longer video this time around too..
That would be great as a standalone retro pc gaming box. It's too expensive really though for what it is.
I would love to see the Dell Optiplex in 2021 video. That'd be awesome for all the budget/just-starting-out pc gamers out there!
Power Man PSUs are great for lower end/cheap systems. I don't see them very often though. Thermaltake PSUs go for very nice prices on ebuyer here in the UK, sometimes as low as £20-25. they're not the highest quality, but they are something.
My Dell laptop had a 9630p in it, and the GTA V performance was about the same as this APU alone. I think the pop in had something to do with how fast the CPU could retrieve data or something, at least that's what I read somewhere. I was able to make the pop in almost go away by using QuickCPU and setting it to high a performance preset.
I would love to see how the Radeon R7 iGPU in the CPU actually performs against the GT710.
I feel like the GT710 is actually quite redundant in that system.....
"Better off with the GT710 in there" is not a sentence I ever expected to hear from Dawid :D
he was using all the memory with the 710, so pulling it dropped the amount of RAM and thus killed the game. If he added more memory, so the APU had enough for the task, he would have gotten better results.
Powerman is actually ow-key really good, my uncle found a 2009 custom built in the street in San Francisco and it looked like it had been hidden in the alley for many years all dirty and fucked up!!!! Everything in the computer still works to this day, when we cleaned it up and turned it up it literally had black road tar and dirty in it.
I have a Powerman 400w that has been running in an I5 system with a GTX 460 i built in 2012 and I've never had an issues with it.
What a trip of a system! At least the seller didn't spend a quarter of the budget on RGBs lol
I do love that case.
I would be curious to see how the iGPU runs if you do a DDU sweep and clean install of some AMD drivers, assuming you didn't do that off-camera and just didn't mention it.
it seems like a fresh barebones install of windows whit no drivers at all that migh be why it performed worse than the gt710 that did had drivers
Actually I've gave one two of those Dell opitiplex a try and they are pretty good depending on what specs are included. Like onetime I scored an SFF with i3, had no hard drive or ram so upgrades are limited, but did score the DT/Slim one for $50 and it came with i5 and 8GB memory, just needed was a hard drive and gpu. Also I have two of those GTX 1050 laying around so been on the look out for a MT to install them into. Also love the tech content.
I've got one of these budget cases. Worst bit is plastic side panel. I run a little FX6350, all second hand (except the case, power supply and hard drive), second hand AIO and run it at 4.3ghz. Poor wee thing hold up well though.
I bought a pre-build with the same motherboard + apu about one year ago in a full tower without a gpu so it looked kinda ridiculous. I have now upgraded my psu and bought a 6600xt but haven’t yet replaced the motherboard and cpu so I have a hard bottleneck there
I was able to cop a 3800xt for like 180, check that out used. I also paired it with a used x370 board, so I could upgrade to ryzen 9 later if I wanted. pretty good path if you like amd for used performance.
Really should start calling these videos “Tales from the grocery store,” as he talks about his latest potato.
Yes I want to see more alot more I love your videos they are just so fun to watch it'd a great time . Thanks 😊👍
yeah, a 2021 update of the "optiplex gamer" would be cool. Although you cold also take a look at their XPS- and inspireon line, which are kind of the successor to Optiplex
you should buy a 6th gen optiplex and chuck a 960 im there
But that content has been saturated already. Every tech channel has somesort of optiplex with a graphics card added to it.
It was actually my first "gaming" pc i've put a half height 1050ti(galax IIRC)
AMD's marketing with the 12 cores is WEIRD; 8 cores are the r7 graphics and 4 are CPU. Also Speccy can read the temp sensors on those from my experience
pls do a comparison video, i wanna know what to get for casual gaming and video editing!
Those APU's are dependent on that ram bandwidth. I'd be curious to see it with a matched set of performance ram.
please make overclovking and add second stick of RAM, I really interested to see it!!!
Such a cute lil baby PC - its cooler is just so Kawaii ❤
Cute cat, Anna! I hope she(?) doesn't use that speaker for a scratching post, though!
@@gregvanpaassen Why thank you! He is pretty sweet. Luckily he doesn't scratch the speakers but he does like to perch on top of them :D
Funny enough I use that same e-waste keyboard and it’s not that bad for basic Fortnite gaming sessions or other games such as call duty or shadow of the tomb raider but the letters on the keys do fade away after a while which is annoying but I got used to it.
Settings for division 2 where a mixture of low medium and high the monitor was a Dell 32-in 165 HZ curved monitor sold at Best buy
What program do you use to benchmark the games? I really want to compare my old PC to my new one..
To look at ram speed, channels, and if it's dual or single ranked use CPU-z.
The old Dell Optiplex method is still solid. I bought a refurbished Optiplex in October of 2020 with an i7 APU from 2013, 8 GB DDR3 ram, 512gb SATA SSD and I bought a GTX 1650 and another 8gb stick of ram and a 1080p monitor and got a hand-me-down razer mouse and keyboard to pair with it. Over the next year and a half ish I upgraded the case, then the power supply, then the motherboard and CPU and RAM, then the CPU cooler, then I added a ton of storage, then I fought with the scalpers and upgraded my GPU, then I upgraded my mouse and keyboard. Now the only things left from the original build are my copy of windows and the SATA SSD. Makes me kinda sad that I'm planning on upgrading to an m.2 boot drive and windows 11 next weekend.
I still use an old i7-3770 with a 1060 3gb. I need to upgrade but this still works well enough until parts availability and prices(I hope) comes back. I've already got the old stuff in a Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh RGB case ready to rebuild.
you should have upped the frequency of that RAM and/or replace it with an equivalent dual-stick kit and retest the system that way. I bet the performance would get somewhat better. I also missed the cinebench benchmark.
I was actually wondering what delving into the old A10 9700 and like gtx card or like r9 380 performance would look like . Or a video on optimizing and tuning CPU , GPU , ram,bios, for best gaming performance and please overclock your GPUs
I have an optiplex with 16 gigs of RAM and a GT 1030 and I'd love to see a video on it. Totally viable setup, if you don't mind 720p there's a lot you can do with it.
that power man psu is a pulled psu from a prebuilt. aka used, it still has the bracket on it too.
I still have my old MSI GT 710 2GD3, but there are also DDR5 versions out there, if you are going for a cheap af retro card that can min spec old games and esport titles, in todays market it can help get you by but there are muuuuuch better options for even just $20 more. I use my for playing games on my auxiliary systems streamed from my main system, so it still is useful. It has been a while since "better off with the GT 710" crossed my mind though, that was funny to hear
I bought that Cooler Master case to replace a "slim" case that only fits half height cards. Perfectly fine case for the kiddos.
My old work used to have us working on computers with exactly the same cases, and I also used that same mouse my entire time working there of over a year 🤣.
god damnit, dawid descriptions and analogies are so god damn funny.
Im using an old optiplex for my sons gaming pc. The biggest problem is that you often cant physically mount a real gpu in the dell case, there is just no room. Im using a gforce 760 and its quite large. Finally had to rig it up in an aftermarket case to get it all working. Dell's proprietary accesory boards like usb and audio dont fit anything as they are non standard so they just kind of hang out the front, but with the dell's i7, 16gb ram and the old gtx760, the thing works pretty darn good. Plays his games at 1080p no problem. It's definately viable if you have the stuff lying around. Cheers.
I always anticipate Linode to be the sponsor because Dawid’s signature way of saying Linooooode is stuck in my mind on repeat
I was literally just thinking today of "Now it's time to hear about our sponsor, Linode" while I was taking an electrical systems test about the Node Voltage method. I couldn't get Dawid out of my head going, "Linode."
I'm running a Ryzen 2300x, 16gb RAM and a 1660 super. Complete system is used parts. Only in the whole setup for $500 or so. I keep upgrading as I find deals on hardware.
I've actually heard of Power Man and I have one of their PSUs, which was in a $20 junk PC from the mid 2000s.
This was way faster than I thought it was gonna be lol, Can't believe with 16gigs of dual channel ram at 3000 the igpu would wreck the 710 😅
I miss the days of Frankensteining PCs. I used to continually tinker with mine, adding bits from used machines and computer fairs. My pc sounded ready to take off a lot of the time, since my fans ran at fixed speeds.
Friendly tip: you can configure MSI Afterburner to display more OSD info, like CPU and GPU temps, and other info you may consider relevant.