@@Kurruchi better to appologise than ask permission. You can't really said "Yeah we bury bunch of nuke in the border in case the BETA cross through there. Hope it never happen tho"
@@annguyen-tr3ne No. You absolutely can. It's not better to apologize once hundreds of thousands to millions die or are separated from their country as a result of the strait. Those people are American citizens whose lives are equal to Americans in the contiguous United States, right? The American govt. decide that absurdly high amount of people are disposable for the sake of secrecy is a disgusting betrayal of its own people. If the Alaskans want to live there hoping the BETA never get there it can be their choice, I'm sure plenty would. But plenty would move as well. Either way, not giving YOUR OWN PEOPLE the choice is an absolute betrayal. If you think otherwise you didn't pay attention to any of the complaints the Japanese themselves started a coup over in ML Alternative with the forced displacement of people in at risk areas into destitute refugee camps, except this example is MUCH more egregious.
It's a good plan, pragmatically. Although it should be made transparent, and with a solidly laid out evacuation plan if it were in danger of going into effect.
One of the reasons why the RLF was so successful in the beginning was due to the UN’s employment of people from many walks of life, this ensured that even if one’s background was unusual it wouldn’t involve in the kind of investigation that would’ve exposed the RLF plot.
Also tends to be hard to verify someones history if all the documentation is back in BETA territory. I'm kinda curious how many people "disappeared" during the war only for someone "new" to appear in another country.
It never ceases to amaze how hummanity itself still continues to be it's own worst enemy all the time xD. Still excellent video, the Blue Flag Exercise is a great showcase of the best and worst of all nations but still entertaining none the less. Also the Shiranui Second(s) is probably one of my favorite designs in Muv Luv (The Red and White one is my favorite color scheme).
It's an amazing TSF, very good design for the designated main character mech. Blue Flag was pretty cool; I know it would've been bad for the budget, but truly getting to see the wide variety of TSFs actually present would've been amazing
Allegiance. They wanted the Red Shift to activate. Just like how their attack on Yokohama was supposed to severely hurt humanity's chances at beating the BETA, this was another method
It's the allegiance there are a religious fanatics with a belief that BETA are emissaries send by the god to punish as for are sins ( corruption, racism and etc) but they are hypocrites who wants humanity to be divided and accept are faith to be a beta food.
They didn’t have any anti-aircraft weapons on them, so the smartest idea was to release one of the most feared forms of the BETA, out as air defense. Totally wouldn’t backfire if it didn’t free all the other BETA…
26:06 Now thats one hell of a mech squad right there. God the whole reason I feel in love with MuvLuv was just the TSF design are so cool and yet some of them are basically our world's fighter jets.
Nice to see more Total Eclipse content in this channel, man was it an intense ride reexperiencing this incident with the Visual Novel last year and now with this part 1video, looking forward to part 2.
Yeah, was just saying that they could add more in future VNs, last Muv-luv The day after chapter came out in 2013, same for Total Eclipse VN, and no main VN titles after Schwarzesmarken
Another two parter by the man, the legend! Looking forward for part 2, and the juicy reveal that "some people" had been banging on about on how to fight the BETA. Keep up the great work! -AltP Team.
Yukon base incident is one of interesting battle for me and i don't want to spoiler but this is the first time i see in anime and VN where Special forces participated and existed
@@yamamotomechbattles For me TSF pilots are more precious than Special forces. But special forces is unique as well. In my headcanon they are still used traditionally but with added anti TSF capability to mitigate them and excels in guerilla warfare or just straight up raid a TSF base
The more I rewatch Total Eclipse, the more I think the RLF are complete and utter morons. 1) They destroy TSF's, the only thing holding the beta back. 2) They kill pilots that, while cocky at times, are still some of the other only things keeping people alive. 3) Yes, some people are safer than others. Yes, it's not right that others are treated worse. But what do you expect considering what these pilots and machines are facing?! "We want the military to help us." they can barely help themselves 95% of the time as it is! Yes, they did a successful takeover. But in the end, they committed crimes against humanity by taking hostages, destroying military hardware, killing military personnel, and all that leading all into ENDANGERING THE HUMAN RACE!!!! Over all great video, and I can't wait for the next part!
They did more damage than good. It's even implied that refugees are looked on even less favorably than before because of this event. Sadly, I think their behavior reflects human behavior in our world very well.
@yamamotomechbattles I agree, if anything yes, I say again what was happening to refugees was wrong. But it's not like the militaries of the world were already stretched thin as it was, not to mention they acted like Red shift was wrong. I'm 90% sure the Russians would have mined the entire area they would have given to the Americans and blew them with the BETA. This shows how wrong people can be, yet think their so right
@@yamamotomechbattles yeah, given the RLF attack costed more than 1000 lives of both civilian and UN personel. It created negative view on the refugee and cause them being treated even worse by both corrupted UN personel and civiliant near refugee area
@@yamamotomechbattles Have you perchance heard that back in 2019 Age announced a sequel VN to Alternative called Muv Luv Integrate? Apparently takes place 10 years after the the main aleternative timeline featuring a new protagonist. Makes sense since Takeru's role in that timeline is concluded.
hearing Spetnaz holding off against TSF feels weird but im surprised that they did it. I wonder if they are equip with AT for use against TSF. I can't recall or pinpoint which japanese site it was but there is an argument whether all Special Forces has TSF training or not
I want to know this too, as I have no clue. I wouldn't doubt they are at least trained; I didn't expect Silvio to use a TSF at all, as I thought his story would only consist of ground level spy stuff, but he piloted one at the start. As for the Spetsnaz, they're mentioned to be carrying RPGs, although I think one of them mentioned how they were mostly pinned down during that fight. Even if the TSFs will probably win, infantry with RPGs can do a decent job against TSFs in urban areas, as depicted in Schwarzes Marken.
Crew Chief: "Okay, no worries, there's a bunch of them but we've got guns and ammo to spare shouldn't be a problem for you to keep them at arm's length." Pilot: "Cool whatever, it's swording time."
damn, I just realised that this is Muv-Luv's version of the september 11th attack on the U.S. They both takes place at september 2001 and this incident happened on the 21st of september, 10 days after the attack in our timeline. Wait, was I repetitive?
@@yamamotomechbattles Well he did show up late to the battle so no point and what remain could not escape the blast in time ZAFT sent the bulk of its veteran forces also Rau had a chance to get rid of other commanders who would lead the operation Still with such losses ZAFT needed every pilot to count and loss of many veterans and professional forces Forcing to rush pilots out and fill there depleted ranks Overall the Eurasians fought hard and made ZAFT bleed for every inch with the Archangel showing its power without a mobile suit as crew was just as skilled and attempted to break out and save as many as they could heck even attempted to warn ZAFT but ignored Still the biggest lost was well train and experiance soldiers to ZAFT and Alliance got rid of many skilled but unwanted commanders at the same time for ZAFT need for payback led to war crimes later on
@@yamamotomechbattles super mech in anime or in other movies doesn't make any since to me other than code Geass mechs they explained how there mechs work including it's power source sakuradite. I love tsf they are more balance and make sense to me.
@@joshuajoaquin5099 Yeah stuff like TSF development shows it hasn't exactly been put on hold either. TSF development in America is far more suited for TSF on TSF combat than all the TSFs from Asia for the express purpose that they be able to easily "rule what's left of the world" once the BETA war ends. The USSR does some of the same but they're in such a dire situation they prefer to steal stuff like that rather than develop themselves lol
Also I know it’s not mecha well at least for the first part but you should do space battleship Yamato battles if it’s strictly mech there’s space Calvary which are basically mechs in the 2nd part aka 2202
I've seen clips of it, but I don't know too much about specific events. I'm not opposed to doing space naval combat, such as in series like Legend of Galactic Heroes
Apparently, it's THE place to be. The US is in charge of protecting it, and people there just get to live a peaceful, normal life far from the BETA threat.
@@yamamotomechbattles Maybe so but it means that nothing happens there and the countries in the region keep exporting, food, raw material and oil (as usual) maybe at much huge quantities than normal because South America must the main and only source of many natural resources. It is also possible that the UN recruits a lot of personnel from the region, but if this is the case it is never mentioned or shown.
Wow Counter Strike defusal maps are so cool they turned it into an Ace Combat anime!!! Jokes on them for whining on Red Shift though, the glorious USSR won't be tricked and defeated by the BETA again. Berkut and Terminator are better than kapitalist raptor for BETA murking, they shouldn't be worried at all. Shame on RLF and US for not having faith on comrade Cryska, Comrade Inia and most of all Comrade Kasumi
idk if we follow some certain timelines USSR ceased to exist. If im fighting a BETA i would use Black Widow or Shiranui even the Mig-29 but if im fighting a TSF imma go raptor
@@joshuajoaquin5099in the timeline where Alternative IV succeeds, Soviets stay intact and Inia Sestina and Trista Sestina (Kasumi) become the leaders of unified mankind. Soviet TSFs are arguably the best for BETA hunting mixing agility (all), firepower (MiG-31) and CQC (Berkut) for a deadly combo. They also pioneered Laserjagd alongside their comrades in the GDR which is a core of BETA hunting ops. Arguably the Raptor is my most disliked TSF in the franchise with stealth being their only saving grace yet rebels were able to take them down. Only armed with arguably the best Assault Cannon but with only toothpicks. Its going to be a terrible TSF when the enemy actually has a bead on them. Best "super" TSF both in anti BETA and anti human has to be the Esper-use Su-47s. Not even stealth will save you from precognition.
Yeah it's a toss up of which I could use, as I like parts from both depictions. The anime kind of streamlines a lot of events that really should be tied up a bit more neatly. But the VN has the depth and detail. In situations like this, I make it a point to remind myself that the "narrator" is looking at multiple historical sources and is trying to put together a presentation of what happened during the battle. So "combat footage" (anime) might show an Su-47 during the battle, but "official documentation" (VN) would say that it never appeared. The narrator would probably assume Soviets didn't want it made public that a Berkut was there. In reality, it's just because the VN and anime are different lol
Red Shift is 100% justified and arguably one of the more sensible thing in Muv Luv. RLF can cope and seethe about it
Keeping it under wraps is not
Me when I'm retarded
@@Kurruchi better to appologise than ask permission. You can't really said "Yeah we bury bunch of nuke in the border in case the BETA cross through there. Hope it never happen tho"
@@annguyen-tr3ne No. You absolutely can. It's not better to apologize once hundreds of thousands to millions die or are separated from their country as a result of the strait.
Those people are American citizens whose lives are equal to Americans in the contiguous United States, right? The American govt. decide that absurdly high amount of people are disposable for the sake of secrecy is a disgusting betrayal of its own people. If the Alaskans want to live there hoping the BETA never get there it can be their choice, I'm sure plenty would. But plenty would move as well. Either way, not giving YOUR OWN PEOPLE the choice is an absolute betrayal.
If you think otherwise you didn't pay attention to any of the complaints the Japanese themselves started a coup over in ML Alternative with the forced displacement of people in at risk areas into destitute refugee camps, except this example is MUCH more egregious.
It's a good plan, pragmatically. Although it should be made transparent, and with a solidly laid out evacuation plan if it were in danger of going into effect.
The Yukon incident is just a mess of geopolitics conspiracy and intrigued that waste precious resources in a vain struggle.
>Humanity developing weapons and technology to prevent humanity's extinction from the BETA.
>RLF big mad.
iirc a lot of RLF members were part of the religious cult that worshipped BETA
They're mostly mad because all that resources are being used for weapon development rather than helping the refugees.
Rlf logic
And in the end they only made it worse for refugees everywhere
Terrorists gonna terrorise
Oh man, this is so nostalgic.
It's been 10 years since I saw the TE anime.
Yeah I think it holds up pretty well despite what people might say
@@yamamotomechbattles Wished they finished the story in the anime instead of leaving it at cliffhanger though.
@@amirsafwan8491 Yeah dude 100% I need to see that final battle animated. It's just not fair
One of the reasons why the RLF was so successful in the beginning was due to the UN’s employment of people from many walks of life, this ensured that even if one’s background was unusual it wouldn’t involve in the kind of investigation that would’ve exposed the RLF plot.
Also tends to be hard to verify someones history if all the documentation is back in BETA territory.
I'm kinda curious how many people "disappeared" during the war only for someone "new" to appear in another country.
It never ceases to amaze how hummanity itself still continues to be it's own worst enemy all the time xD. Still excellent video, the Blue Flag Exercise is a great showcase of the best and worst of all nations but still entertaining none the less. Also the Shiranui Second(s) is probably one of my favorite designs in Muv Luv (The Red and White one is my favorite color scheme).
It's an amazing TSF, very good design for the designated main character mech. Blue Flag was pretty cool; I know it would've been bad for the budget, but truly getting to see the wide variety of TSFs actually present would've been amazing
27:41 still boggle my mind, is that whose in their right mind in this universe thinks it is a good idea to let BETA loose
Welp...that's the allegiance for you
Allegiance. They wanted the Red Shift to activate. Just like how their attack on Yokohama was supposed to severely hurt humanity's chances at beating the BETA, this was another method
It's crazy the mental gymnastics they use to explain their actions
It's the allegiance there are a religious fanatics with a belief that BETA are emissaries send by the god to punish as for are sins ( corruption, racism and etc) but they are hypocrites who wants humanity to be divided and accept are faith to be a beta food.
They didn’t have any anti-aircraft weapons on them, so the smartest idea was to release one of the most feared forms of the BETA, out as air defense. Totally wouldn’t backfire if it didn’t free all the other BETA…
RLF Big mad, UN Big sadge, protagonist sword go BRRRRR, Beta release so red shift go B O A E M.
I'm fairly certain those are the exact words found in Agent Weller's report of the incident during the VN
@@yamamotomechbattles facts.
@@yamamotomechbattles
Damn Right
26:06 Now thats one hell of a mech squad right there. God the whole reason I feel in love with MuvLuv was just the TSF design are so cool and yet some of them are basically our world's fighter jets.
Yeah they were squaded up! The mech designs were what sold me on Muv Luv as well
Nice to see more Total Eclipse content in this channel, man was it an intense ride reexperiencing this incident with the Visual Novel last year and now with this part 1video, looking forward to part 2.
Also, hope Muv-Luv adds more mercenary type characters, probably best if they're not a menace like Christopher though
@@tomaspedro7632 Have you seen the day after?
Yeah, was just saying that they could add more in future VNs, last Muv-luv The day after chapter came out in 2013, same for Total Eclipse VN, and no main VN titles after Schwarzesmarken
Yeah it was a pretty good part in the VN and the original anime. Was really satisfying whenever the good guys could eke out a win in that scenario.
Another two parter by the man, the legend! Looking forward for part 2, and the juicy reveal that "some people" had been banging on about on how to fight the BETA. Keep up the great work! -AltP Team.
Thank you! I'm looking forward to what you guys have to upload next!
funny enough there's gonna be some small crossover with your video lol!
Yukon base incident is one of interesting battle for me and i don't want to spoiler but this is the first time i see in anime and VN where Special forces participated and existed
Yeah, with how vaunted surface pilots are, I wonder how prestigious special forces are in comparison
@@yamamotomechbattles For me TSF pilots are more precious than Special forces. But special forces is unique as well. In my headcanon they are still used traditionally but with added anti TSF capability to mitigate them and excels in guerilla warfare or just straight up raid a TSF base
The more I rewatch Total Eclipse, the more I think the RLF are complete and utter morons. 1) They destroy TSF's, the only thing holding the beta back. 2) They kill pilots that, while cocky at times, are still some of the other only things keeping people alive. 3) Yes, some people are safer than others. Yes, it's not right that others are treated worse. But what do you expect considering what these pilots and machines are facing?! "We want the military to help us." they can barely help themselves 95% of the time as it is! Yes, they did a successful takeover. But in the end, they committed crimes against humanity by taking hostages, destroying military hardware, killing military personnel, and all that leading all into ENDANGERING THE HUMAN RACE!!!! Over all great video, and I can't wait for the next part!
Welcome to humanity. This kind of thing happens more than most think.
They did more damage than good. It's even implied that refugees are looked on even less favorably than before because of this event. Sadly, I think their behavior reflects human behavior in our world very well.
@yamamotomechbattles I agree, if anything yes, I say again what was happening to refugees was wrong. But it's not like the militaries of the world were already stretched thin as it was, not to mention they acted like Red shift was wrong. I'm 90% sure the Russians would have mined the entire area they would have given to the Americans and blew them with the BETA. This shows how wrong people can be, yet think their so right
@@yamamotomechbattles yeah, given the RLF attack costed more than 1000 lives of both civilian and UN personel. It created negative view on the refugee and cause them being treated even worse by both corrupted UN personel and civiliant near refugee area
Nice, you make awesome vids explaining the depth of each battle in Muv Luv universe. Look forward to more.
Thank you, definitely stay tuned for the next one
@@yamamotomechbattles Have you perchance heard that back in 2019 Age announced a sequel VN to Alternative called Muv Luv Integrate? Apparently takes place 10 years after the the main aleternative timeline featuring a new protagonist. Makes sense since Takeru's role in that timeline is concluded.
@@smokey_mcbong Yeah it's got a few pictures available, one I recall that shows characters from several other storylines
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@@thekietnguyen2673 Ayyyyyy
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Quickest 41 minutes ever I can’t wait for part 2
I thought the same thing. Took forever to make, and then it just goes by lol
hearing Spetnaz holding off against TSF feels weird but im surprised that they did it. I wonder if they are equip with AT for use against TSF. I can't recall or pinpoint which japanese site it was but there is an argument whether all Special Forces has TSF training or not
I want to know this too, as I have no clue. I wouldn't doubt they are at least trained; I didn't expect Silvio to use a TSF at all, as I thought his story would only consist of ground level spy stuff, but he piloted one at the start. As for the Spetsnaz, they're mentioned to be carrying RPGs, although I think one of them mentioned how they were mostly pinned down during that fight. Even if the TSFs will probably win, infantry with RPGs can do a decent job against TSFs in urban areas, as depicted in Schwarzes Marken.
12:14 oh, hell, no
22:01 Aka THE waifu. XD
If there is one thing I Appreciate more when coming home after 10 hours at work is Yamamoto Mech Battles upload.
Total Eclipse is on the menu Today!
Dang, glad I could provide the video. Keep at it!
“Fully armed,” has a sword.
If you mean the Type-00, that is fully armed lol
Crew Chief: "Okay, no worries, there's a bunch of them but we've got guns and ammo to spare shouldn't be a problem for you to keep them at arm's length."
Pilot: "Cool whatever, it's swording time."
Armored core in a nutshell
Yes, another vid. thank you!
You're welcome. Hope you enjoyed
damn, I just realised that this is Muv-Luv's version of the september 11th attack on the U.S. They both takes place at september 2001 and this incident happened on the 21st of september, 10 days after the attack in our timeline.
Wait, was I repetitive?
Just for the heck of it ever wonder what of the battle of JOSH-A Alaska in Gundam Seed?
I remember that one distinctly. It would be fun to do, although I'd feel compelled to downplay Kira's exploits during it lol
@@yamamotomechbattles Well he did show up late to the battle so no point and what remain could not escape the blast in time
ZAFT sent the bulk of its veteran forces also Rau had a chance to get rid of other commanders who would lead the operation
Still with such losses ZAFT needed every pilot to count and loss of many veterans and professional forces
Forcing to rush pilots out and fill there depleted ranks
Overall the Eurasians fought hard and made ZAFT bleed for every inch with the Archangel showing its power without a mobile suit as crew was just as skilled and attempted to break out and save as many as they could heck even attempted to warn ZAFT but ignored
Still the biggest lost was well train and experiance soldiers to ZAFT and Alliance got rid of many skilled but unwanted commanders at the same time for ZAFT need for payback led to war crimes later on
Top notch stuff as always.
Thanks, much appreciated
Heck yeh ya back, glab to c u r well :D
Thanks. Yeah, I can get quite stressed working hard to create this stuff, but it's rewarding when I get to upload
Muv-luv is in my Oinion an even More Realistic Mecha sereis then Gundam
I agree, that's what drew me to it. The designs are so cool, but also very practical
@@yamamotomechbattles super mech in anime or in other movies doesn't make any since to me other than code Geass mechs they explained how there mechs work including it's power source sakuradite. I love tsf they are more balance and make sense to me.
こうやって見ると、ユウヤとツィ中尉、すごすぎだわ。。。
Yes, they definitely had a lot of training and skill. The RLF thought it would be easy, but they were wrong.
I remember to show having Soviets in them I stopped watching
4:35 now you tell me I should’ve known this was still a Cold War going on
11:12 who?!
technically Cold war hasn't ended during the invasion of Beta. It's just put on hold due of Beta
@@joshuajoaquin5099 Yeah stuff like TSF development shows it hasn't exactly been put on hold either. TSF development in America is far more suited for TSF on TSF combat than all the TSFs from Asia for the express purpose that they be able to easily "rule what's left of the world" once the BETA war ends. The USSR does some of the same but they're in such a dire situation they prefer to steal stuff like that rather than develop themselves lol
Looking forward for Part II
Thanks, it is definitely being worked on, rest assured!
How do you get to your PR because I will become one of your patrons
Also I know it’s not mecha well at least for the first part but you should do space battleship Yamato battles if it’s strictly mech there’s space Calvary which are basically mechs in the 2nd part aka 2202
I've seen clips of it, but I don't know too much about specific events. I'm not opposed to doing space naval combat, such as in series like Legend of Galactic Heroes
@@yamamotomechbattles ah okay the space battles in space battleship Yamato are really good in my opinion thanks for replying
Bro im loving this
Thank you, really appreciate it
ah finally a new video☺
Yes indeed
38:19 can we please just have no beta in a human on human war
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Gotta love 'em! Great pair... 🙃
5:46 Each time I see this map, I think... jumm South america as irrelevant as usual.
Apparently, it's THE place to be. The US is in charge of protecting it, and people there just get to live a peaceful, normal life far from the BETA threat.
@@yamamotomechbattles Maybe so but it means that nothing happens there and the countries in the region keep exporting, food, raw material and oil (as usual) maybe at much huge quantities than normal because South America must the main and only source of many natural resources. It is also possible that the UN recruits a lot of personnel from the region, but if this is the case it is never mentioned or shown.
HELL YES FINALLY
Glad to deliver!
Nice
Wow Counter Strike defusal maps are so cool they turned it into an Ace Combat anime!!!
Jokes on them for whining on Red Shift though, the glorious USSR won't be tricked and defeated by the BETA again.
Berkut and Terminator are better than kapitalist raptor for BETA murking, they shouldn't be worried at all.
Shame on RLF and US for not having faith on comrade Cryska, Comrade Inia and most of all Comrade Kasumi
idk if we follow some certain timelines USSR ceased to exist. If im fighting a BETA i would use Black Widow or Shiranui even the Mig-29 but if im fighting a TSF imma go raptor
@@joshuajoaquin5099in the timeline where Alternative IV succeeds, Soviets stay intact and Inia Sestina and Trista Sestina (Kasumi) become the leaders of unified mankind.
Soviet TSFs are arguably the best for BETA hunting mixing agility (all), firepower (MiG-31) and CQC (Berkut) for a deadly combo. They also pioneered Laserjagd alongside their comrades in the GDR which is a core of BETA hunting ops.
Arguably the Raptor is my most disliked TSF in the franchise with stealth being their only saving grace yet rebels were able to take them down. Only armed with arguably the best Assault Cannon but with only toothpicks. Its going to be a terrible TSF when the enemy actually has a bead on them. Best "super" TSF both in anti BETA and anti human has to be the Esper-use Su-47s. Not even stealth will save you from precognition.
There needs to be a good, almost Battlefield style game with TSFs
@@yamamotomechbattles hard mega agree
Works too because Muv Luv also uses tanks and stuff
Slavaboo detected
See your using the anime version mostly in the depiction of events.
Yeah it's a toss up of which I could use, as I like parts from both depictions. The anime kind of streamlines a lot of events that really should be tied up a bit more neatly. But the VN has the depth and detail. In situations like this, I make it a point to remind myself that the "narrator" is looking at multiple historical sources and is trying to put together a presentation of what happened during the battle. So "combat footage" (anime) might show an Su-47 during the battle, but "official documentation" (VN) would say that it never appeared. The narrator would probably assume Soviets didn't want it made public that a Berkut was there. In reality, it's just because the VN and anime are different lol
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I rembear f 16 Got like hacked or pilot by somnoe I forgor
Yeah 72 F-16s, though only a few were piloted, the rest were essentially automated drones
@@yamamotomechbattlesthe most American thing heard from Muv luv