To be honest, I did a rewrite of Total Drama All Stars and I just rewrote Mal to be a normal personality of Mike. With Mal coming back after Mike thought he didn’t need Mal and pushed him deep down into his consciousness. When Scott hit him with the shovel, Mal, comes in and due to some closed trust issues and bullying, Mal’s goal is to win and to get out anyone that could hurt him emotionally or physically is out of the game. Mal also doesn’t want any of the other personality’s interfere with Mal keeping Mike safe, He locks them up. At the end of the series Mal loses and decides that not everyone will try to hurt Mike so he gives up trying to isolate Mike and Mal sits back as defense if things hit the fan.
That’s actually a really good idea! I like the premise of him doing it only to protect Mike rather than a full takeover and be evil for no reason I’ll definitely check out your video!
All Stars 2 Cast: Noah Justin Tyler Cody Beth Harold Lindsay Leshawna Heather Gwen Owen Blaineley Dawn Anne Maria Brick Samey Topher Max Sugar Shawn Dave Jasmine Sky Emma Kitty Josee Ennui Crimson Carrie Stephanie Ryan Dwaine Jr. Taylor Brodie MacArthur
If I was picking the casts for an all stars season, I would pick 24 contestants. Gen 1 - Owen, Gwen, Heather, Duncan, Leshawna, Beth, Country, Harold, Alejandro, Cody and Sierra Gen 2 - Cameron, Lighting, Zoey, Scott, Jo and Mike Gen 3 - Shawn, Sky, Sugar, Jasmine, Max, Scarlett and Dave - Reason For the Gen 1 casts, they all made it to the tops 5 Gen 2 & 3 all of them make it to the merge of their season - Teams I think we should have 3 teams like WT & the theme is Brain, Beauty and Brawn -Brain: Beth, Cameron, Country, Dave, Harold, Max, Scarlet & Scott -Beauty: Alejandro, Cody, Gwen, Heather, Leshawna, Mike, Sugar & Zozy -Brawn: Duncan, Jasmine, Jo, Lighting, Owen, Sierra, Shawn, Sky What do you think?
@@ListsofLegends thank you, in my opinion I think this should been the all stars season. There a lot of things you can do with this story like, Beth & Cameron friendship? Harold helping out Dave? Sky joining Lightning & Jo alliance? Maybe if you want you can comment below what eliminates order should be.
My All Stars cast 16 contestants (more male then female) I’m not adding: Courtney, Duncan, Sierra, Sam, Cameron or Lightning No Pahkitew, even though I love the season, but here is who I would’ve added for them: Shawn, Sky, Jasmine, Max, Dave, Topher and Ella (maybe Scarlett) Also they’re will be more G1 Cast G2 Jo Zoey Mike/Mal (I’m keeping Mal, just slightly adjusting him) Scott Brick Anne Maria Dawn G2 Lindsay Alejandro Heather Gwen Harold Owen LeShawna Cody Tyler HM: DJ, Izzy and Beth
Wow I really like a lot of your ideas for All Stars! I think seeing Justin and Alejandro interacting and maybe even teaming up (possibly along with Duncan) against Mal! Even though I don’t like Mal I think there’s lots that can be done with him like with Anne Maria, I think it would be cool seeing Mal as more of his own person rather than a cartoonishly evil bad guy. If we saw Mal have motives for why he wants the money and maybe see him make genuine connections I think that would be cool! I’d also really love to see Lindsay make some new friends maybe people from Gen 1 she didn’t get much screen time with like Gwen and Harold and some Gen 2/3 characters like Zoey, Dawn and Sky! I think it would be cool to see Duncan, Courtney and Gwen put their bad blood behind them and make an alliance. Maybe it starts out fake with them wanting to betray/use each other to get one another (or someone else) out of the game…but then Duncan, Courtney and Gwen apologize for cheating (Duncan), being a toxic girlfriend (Courtney) and hiding a secret behind her friends back (Gwen)! Even if Duncney, Gwuncan or Gwortney end up not being cannon as ships…Id love to see the 3 of them being pals and getting along! For the finale I personally would like to see Lindsay vs Courtney or Harold! I’d also like to see cameos throughout the season from DJ, Geoff, Dakota, Jasmine and Leshawna I think that’d be fun! I really love hearing all of your thoughts and ideas TDAS had so much potential what a shame 😕 Let’s just hope the new seasons will be a lot better! :D 🌈🦄💖
Thanks so much! I definitely think Mal could’ve been something but they didn’t really give him any motives he’s just just evil for being evil kinda thing
@@ListsofLegends Your welcome, I love your videos! They definitely focused too much on trying to make Mal “evil and threatening” while forgetting to give him a personality
@@ListsofLegends if i wrote mal. I'd actually have him make mike feel scared with what's happening. Where he makes mike feel scared and want to pull a DJ in TDWT or TDA. Where he quits. And hey. For the return of the aftermath show. We could have izzy using her brainzilla side to give mike some therapy. That way we get a satisfying end for mike and his other personalities. In my opinion the aftermath show actually helped develop characters instead of derailing them. Id say bringing back the aftermath show can actually help with developing characters more efficiently. Ik the first season never had it before but the first gen got more time to develop.
Topher got out because Chris was annoyed of him being around he wouldn't want him back, I think you should put Max, Noah, Trent, Leshawna, or Jasmine because they would fit way better Especially Noah because we haven't seen enough of his and Owen's Friendship. Anne Marie would be stupid so put Izzy
4:58 but after what gwen did in world tour she should be considered a villain. She did the exact kind of thing heather would do. Only without strategy or plot armour.
@@ListsofLegends agreed. That’s not actually what the writers wanted to do, the people in Cartoon Network forced the Gwen-Trent and Duncan-Courtney breakups to happen. Both would’ve stayed together otherwise
@@ListsofLegends yeah. The writers were going to keep those couples together(I can’t say I was a fan of gwuncan) and that’s why the breakups seem so… forced, especially Gwent.
How I’d fix all stars (to keep things a challenge, I have to keep the cast, and Mal, but legit EVERYTHING else is fair game, another thing, unless I can justify a character winning, they can’t win. So I can’t just have Scott win because I like him) Episode 1: Episode ones are always kinda throwaway episodes in my seasons. But this one would have everyone return, It’s clear Mike, Zoey, and Cameron haven’t been great at keeping in touch since revenge ended as everything is kinda awkward around them, same with the love triangle, Courtney has mellowed out since last season, acting like her island self, she tries to ignore their love, just letting them be happy, but it’s clear it’s getting at her. Since I don’t like giving episode 1’s eliminations, especially in a season with a new roster, no one goes home and there is no challenge, however the teams are formed same as in canon Episode 2: Alejandro knows he blew it with everyone in gen one but Courtney, who wasn’t in the mood to talk, and Lindsay, who he wants to use later, seeing as Zoey has drifted from Mike, he finds that as the perfect victim as he can use her to mess up the dynamic of the hero’s team, however before he can get scheming the first challenge is called, same old same old, it’s basically the same as canon but Sam volunteers to push the cart, saying his fingers are ripped from playing so many games, he then loses for the team, despite that, the original target is on Courtney for being bossy, but she manages to convince Sam to vote Lindsay and Lindsay and Sierra to vote Sam, making it a tie at elimination, which Courtney easily wins, saying sayonara to Sam. Meanwhile Alejandro makes his first moves on Zoey, and despite her seeing every episode, she is blinded by love, developing a crush on him, but she feels scummy, knowing her and Mike are sorta kinda a thing Episode 3: TBC
This is how the total drama would be if I was a showrunner. Total Drama Island Total Drama Action Total Drama World Tour Total Drama Pahkitew + Revenge 2 more seasons of these characters Ridonculous Race 1 or 2 more season of Ridonculous Race Instead of All Stars Total Drama All Stars Vs Underdogs The HBO MAX Seasons (This list is in a dream world where cartoon network isn't cheap and decided not to make a huge gap in the seasons.) If they really wanted to do Total dramarama they should've just made it like a one season netflix mini series.
Sierra was on All Stars because she made it far, Owen, Brick and Anna Maria were scrapped for no reason at all and Beth wasn't on all stars because she wasn't a fan favorite (just like Sierra who didnt make it as far as her)
Hmmm. Let me see. My way with this cast with reasons: 22nd Lindsay (I will keep her as first boot since she adds no drama and in a season like this it gives a lot) 21st Lightning (original. It was one of the only good eliminations in the original) 20th Owen (I could see him eating too much of the pancake and throwing up costing team the challenge. As to why here....bias I guess. I was never a fan of Owen) 19th Jo (Heather) 18th Sugar (I could see Topher,Alejandro and Justin teaming up and targeting people starting with her) 17th Dawn (she did nothing in s4 idk why she is a fan fav. 17th fits) 16th Cameron (Mal would boot him out fearing he would expose him. He is smarter than Zoey who while yes suspects something is wrong would need more time to figure it out) 15th Heather (Alejandro's alliance vs Heather,Courtney,Duncan and Scott with Anne Maria in the middle. Alejandro had the idol so Heather was out) 14th Sky (just kinda fits here) 13th Duncan (so he goes pre merge in at least one season) 12th Alejandro (Topher amd Justin betrayed him) MERGE Remaining contestants: Topher,Justin,Courtney,Anne Maria,Scott,Gwen,Mike,Zoey,Shawn,Harold,Brick 11th Zoey (have Alejandro expose Mal before getting out and Zoey help Mike get control again but getting out becouse of it) 10th Shawn (auto elimination or smthn) 9th Mike (a threat) 8th Topher (Justin and Courtney make an alliance like in Action plus Scott and Justin betrays Topher) 7th Gwen (She won already. 7th is good) 6th Anne Maria (have her be the comic relief) 5th Justin (secondary villain of the season. Have Courtney and Scott vote him out for balance in the next voting or smthn) 4th Brick (would lose a tie breaker against Courtney) 3rd Harold (I prefer Scott and Courtney finale) Oroginal winner: Courtney Alternate winner: Scott
Tbh, I feel like Heroes vs Villains COULD work, if it was handled right. TD is a show where you have SO MANY anti-heroes, right? People you can't really classify as good or evil? What if the Heroes vs Villains set up is a commentary on stereotyping certain people, shoving them into certain roles for the sake of black and white TV world? What if the villains have their own moments of humanity and kindness that they're shunned for because of their roles? What if the heroes are forced to be overly nice and perfect for the sake of the camera? What if the villains can admit they've made some mistakes that they regret, and want redemption? What if the heroes have their own selfish wishes? Plus, this would fit in Total Drama, as a parody of reality TV. I feel like the only character who gets into that, slightly, is Gwen. But even then, the focus for her was more so on making amends with Courtney. But in this route, her being a Villainous Vulture COULD be an interesting arc for her, if done right. I could definitely imagine a plotline where 6-8 contestants, (people from BOTH TEAMS), are fed up with the heroes vs villain tropes and make an alliance to screw with the game. (Neutral Nightingales, as I'd call it) This alliance would also come into play with the game's functioning being screwed, and discovering Mal's identity. (Depending on whether or not Mike is a Neutral member. If he isn't, then it's a classic spy case, if he is, it brings drama to the alliance on who they can trust.) I can imagine them working off the eliminations of fellow neutral members. I would personally have the finalists be Courtney and Zoey. I could see Courtney leading the neutral alliance, and having a redemption arc, and if she were to switch teams like in canon, she'd be tied to both sides and basically be the protag of the season. Zoey meanwhile is tied to Mike, therefore tied to Mal, and is also a compassionate figure who can win people over, being a counteract to Courtney as someone who can easily make the same mistakes Courtney did, but hasn't quite yet. But YES, more cast members, 26 episodes, definitely. COME ON. IT'S ALL STARS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
They could have added Brick instead of Sam added Owen and Anne Maria Replaced Sierra with Leshawna had at least 18 or 17 episodes have interactions between the characters and also not make some characters idiots have the challenges more explosive and dangerous The finalist should also be Courtney Vs Scott or Courtney Vs Brick More importantly we should have seen them eating in the cafeteria 😅
Here is my allstars fan cast using what list legends picked for the characters. And I'll have the teams be like previous TD casts where it's more fair. Team 1. The steel oxen Lindsay Harold Scott Duncan Brick Owen Sugar Zoey Mike Dawn Team 2. The quick equestrians Topher Heather Shawn Anne Marie Gwen Courtney Justin Alehadro Cameron Lightning
Scott I believe was because he had such villainous aspects in revenge only for him to do literally nothing in all stars but yeah Jo and Lighting were actually pretty consistent
@@ListsofLegends also. What's your thoughts on the teams created and who i put on what team? I intentionally placed each member on each team to cause some literal total drama
Look ik no one likes Dave, but I think he’d be better than sky in all stars, sky is literally zoey 2.0 and has no reason being there, Dave on the other hand I get hes annoying with his whole simp gimmick but I feel like swapping in zoey as sky’s replacement for him would be good and would cause some extra drama between Mike and Dave, it’s always good to have a character to root against remember that.
Here is how I would do the cast: Also there are requirements to get in. You have to MERGE at least once, but not all mergers get in. Also, ROTI characters only had 1 season, so making it at LEAST as far as episode 7 there counts. I would keep the original cast but remove Sam and replace him with Brick firstly. Sam doesn’t fit the criteria. I’d also add Anne Maria because she’s the ONLY other ROTI character that qualifies. Dawn, B and Staci all had very little screen time, Sam doesn’t fit the criteria either and Dakota was an intern in more than half of her episodes.(I’m making this cast 22 people btw, also this assumes seasons 1-4 went by as they did.) I would also add Owen as someone who merged every time he played, a fan fav and the most well known contestant. For underdogs, I’m adding Beth and Cody as they are both underdogs that made final 3, and in Beth’s case made it to the final 2. Also adding Harold because he meets the criteria and people want him back, as well as Leshawna because it wouldn’t make sense to add Harold without Leshawna. I also picked Justin because him and Alejandro NEED to meet and have a rivalry, and my last spot goes to Izzy because it makes the most sense out of all the remaining female choices. Elimination order too: 22nd. Beth 21st. Scott 20th. Anne Maria 19th. Lightning 18th. Sierra 17th. Cody 16th. Duncan 15th. Owen 14th. Izzy 13th. Heather 12th. Mike Merge! 11th. Cameron 10th. Gwen 9th. Jo 8th. Leshawna 7th. Justin 6th. Alejandro 5th. Zoey 4th. Lindsay 3rd. Harold Finale! 2nd. Brick 1st. Courtney Yes I agree with your final 2
In my opinion Geoff, Bridgette, DJ, Leshawna, Tyler, Trent, Beth, Scarlett, Dave, Jasmine, Noah, Sammy, Ella, and Cody also should’ve been in all stars
Some characters are robbed this season but I want to talk about Gwen's elimination it's unfair since Chris said that bring the item that you get assigned with but the only people who bring item they get to assign to is Zoey and Gwen we have the top two but I think the writers thinks that there's no villain going in to top two but they didn't think atleast make top 3 since it was a tie 2-2 two heroes and villains I really see Zoey or Gwen winning this because they both won for me considering track record I think Mike's win is not really a deserving winner since he's on his mind this whole season and zoey winning I think was fine since she is a team player mostly she put a lot of effort here
To be honest, I did a rewrite of Total Drama All Stars and I just rewrote Mal to be a normal personality of Mike. With Mal coming back after Mike thought he didn’t need Mal and pushed him deep down into his consciousness. When Scott hit him with the shovel, Mal, comes in and due to some closed trust issues and bullying, Mal’s goal is to win and to get out anyone that could hurt him emotionally or physically is out of the game. Mal also doesn’t want any of the other personality’s interfere with Mal keeping Mike safe, He locks them up. At the end of the series Mal loses and decides that not everyone will try to hurt Mike so he gives up trying to isolate Mike and Mal sits back as defense if things hit the fan.
Oh so mal doesnt actully hate mike
@@RashyTheGOAT Nope just hates people
That’s actually a really good idea! I like the premise of him doing it only to protect Mike rather than a full takeover and be evil for no reason I’ll definitely check out your video!
This is Actually Perfect Writing in My Opinion, Nice Work🙏🙏🙏
All Stars 2 Cast:
Noah
Justin
Tyler
Cody
Beth
Harold
Lindsay
Leshawna
Heather
Gwen
Owen
Blaineley
Dawn
Anne Maria
Brick
Samey
Topher
Max
Sugar
Shawn
Dave
Jasmine
Sky
Emma
Kitty
Josee
Ennui
Crimson
Carrie
Stephanie
Ryan
Dwaine Jr.
Taylor
Brodie
MacArthur
Yeah I’ll have to look into ridiculous race they did have some pretty cool characters
Samey is not an All Star and will never be, unless Amy is there
Samey is nothing without Amy
Question: would you ever consider doing a video discussing how you'd do a deluxe version of ROTI (with the PI characters added?)
Yes I have and I plan on making it soon
@@ListsofLegends awesome
If I was picking the casts for an all stars season, I would pick 24 contestants.
Gen 1
- Owen, Gwen, Heather, Duncan, Leshawna, Beth, Country, Harold, Alejandro, Cody and Sierra
Gen 2
- Cameron, Lighting, Zoey, Scott, Jo and Mike
Gen 3
- Shawn, Sky, Sugar, Jasmine, Max, Scarlett and Dave
- Reason
For the Gen 1 casts, they all made it to the tops 5
Gen 2 & 3 all of them make it to the merge of their season
- Teams
I think we should have 3 teams like WT & the theme is Brain, Beauty and Brawn
-Brain: Beth, Cameron, Country, Dave, Harold, Max, Scarlet & Scott
-Beauty: Alejandro, Cody, Gwen, Heather, Leshawna, Mike, Sugar & Zozy
-Brawn: Duncan, Jasmine, Jo, Lighting, Owen, Sierra, Shawn, Sky
What do you think?
I like it, it’s definitely something creative and different!
@@ListsofLegends thank you, in my opinion I think this should been the all stars season. There a lot of things you can do with this story like, Beth & Cameron friendship? Harold helping out Dave? Sky joining Lightning & Jo alliance? Maybe if you want you can comment below what eliminates order should be.
@@That_guy_who_draw since it’s an all stars season maybe a double winner could work l maybe Owen for a new one I would say Harold
@@ListsofLegends Well that could work but I think it better to have new winners instead of the same one. Make Mike vs Courtney or Leshawna vs Scott
Lindsay instead of cody as Lindsay played in 3 season and made it to the merge twice
My All Stars cast
16 contestants (more male then female)
I’m not adding: Courtney, Duncan, Sierra, Sam, Cameron or Lightning
No Pahkitew, even though I love the season, but here is who I would’ve added for them: Shawn, Sky, Jasmine, Max, Dave, Topher and Ella (maybe Scarlett)
Also they’re will be more G1
Cast
G2
Jo
Zoey
Mike/Mal (I’m keeping Mal, just slightly adjusting him)
Scott
Brick
Anne Maria
Dawn
G2
Lindsay
Alejandro
Heather
Gwen
Harold
Owen
LeShawna
Cody
Tyler
HM: DJ, Izzy and Beth
They should have been done mega all stars lol but nice list
Wow I really like a lot of your ideas for All Stars! I think seeing Justin and Alejandro interacting and maybe even teaming up (possibly along with Duncan) against Mal! Even though I don’t like Mal I think there’s lots that can be done with him like with Anne Maria, I think it would be cool seeing Mal as more of his own person rather than a cartoonishly evil bad guy. If we saw Mal have motives for why he wants the money and maybe see him make genuine connections I think that would be cool! I’d also really love to see Lindsay make some new friends maybe people from Gen 1 she didn’t get much screen time with like Gwen and Harold and some Gen 2/3 characters like Zoey, Dawn and Sky! I think it would be cool to see Duncan, Courtney and Gwen put their bad blood behind them and make an alliance. Maybe it starts out fake with them wanting to betray/use each other to get one another (or someone else) out of the game…but then Duncan, Courtney and Gwen apologize for cheating (Duncan), being a toxic girlfriend (Courtney) and hiding a secret behind her friends back (Gwen)! Even if Duncney, Gwuncan or Gwortney end up not being cannon as ships…Id love to see the 3 of them being pals and getting along! For the finale I personally would like to see Lindsay vs Courtney or Harold! I’d also like to see cameos throughout the season from DJ, Geoff, Dakota, Jasmine and Leshawna I think that’d be fun! I really love hearing all of your thoughts and ideas TDAS had so much potential what a shame 😕
Let’s just hope the new seasons will be a lot better! :D 🌈🦄💖
Thanks so much! I definitely think Mal could’ve been something but they didn’t really give him any motives he’s just just evil for being evil kinda thing
@@ListsofLegends Your welcome, I love your videos! They definitely focused too much on trying to make Mal “evil and threatening” while forgetting to give him a personality
Wow thanks so much! more total drama content underway!
@@ListsofLegends if i wrote mal. I'd actually have him make mike feel scared with what's happening. Where he makes mike feel scared and want to pull a DJ in TDWT or TDA. Where he quits. And hey. For the return of the aftermath show. We could have izzy using her brainzilla side to give mike some therapy. That way we get a satisfying end for mike and his other personalities. In my opinion the aftermath show actually helped develop characters instead of derailing them. Id say bringing back the aftermath show can actually help with developing characters more efficiently. Ik the first season never had it before but the first gen got more time to develop.
@@floofycupkim1197 I like that ending a lot better than him basically going to the finale for free
Almost 400 keep it up
Thank you!!!
Topher got out because Chris was annoyed of him being around he wouldn't want him back, I think you should put Max, Noah, Trent, Leshawna, or Jasmine because they would fit way better Especially Noah because we haven't seen enough of his and Owen's Friendship.
Anne Marie would be stupid so put Izzy
We saw more of Owen and Noah in RR at least but I see whatcha mean
4:58 but after what gwen did in world tour she should be considered a villain. She did the exact kind of thing heather would do. Only without strategy or plot armour.
The love triangle was just awful
@@ListsofLegends agreed. That’s not actually what the writers wanted to do, the people in Cartoon Network forced the Gwen-Trent and Duncan-Courtney breakups to happen. Both would’ve stayed together otherwise
@@ethanalgicosathlonchannel1110 I’ll have to do more research behinds the scenes but thanks for the info
@@ListsofLegends yeah. The writers were going to keep those couples together(I can’t say I was a fan of gwuncan) and that’s why the breakups seem so… forced, especially Gwent.
I can’t believe though they actually decided Sam instead of BRICK
Honestly idk why we didnt just get a second trilogy, with the revenge of the Island characters and 26/27 episodes also 19 or 20 characters
That would have been how I’d do it
How I’d fix all stars (to keep things a challenge, I have to keep the cast, and Mal, but legit EVERYTHING else is fair game, another thing, unless I can justify a character winning, they can’t win. So I can’t just have Scott win because I like him)
Episode 1:
Episode ones are always kinda throwaway episodes in my seasons. But this one would have everyone return, It’s clear Mike, Zoey, and Cameron haven’t been great at keeping in touch since revenge ended as everything is kinda awkward around them, same with the love triangle, Courtney has mellowed out since last season, acting like her island self, she tries to ignore their love, just letting them be happy, but it’s clear it’s getting at her. Since I don’t like giving episode 1’s eliminations, especially in a season with a new roster, no one goes home and there is no challenge, however the teams are formed same as in canon
Episode 2:
Alejandro knows he blew it with everyone in gen one but Courtney, who wasn’t in the mood to talk, and Lindsay, who he wants to use later, seeing as Zoey has drifted from Mike, he finds that as the perfect victim as he can use her to mess up the dynamic of the hero’s team, however before he can get scheming the first challenge is called, same old same old, it’s basically the same as canon but Sam volunteers to push the cart, saying his fingers are ripped from playing so many games, he then loses for the team, despite that, the original target is on Courtney for being bossy, but she manages to convince Sam to vote Lindsay and Lindsay and Sierra to vote Sam, making it a tie at elimination, which Courtney easily wins, saying sayonara to Sam. Meanwhile Alejandro makes his first moves on Zoey, and despite her seeing every episode, she is blinded by love, developing a crush on him, but she feels scummy, knowing her and Mike are sorta kinda a thing
Episode 3:
TBC
Very nice so far lol
This is how the total drama would be if I was a showrunner.
Total Drama Island
Total Drama Action
Total Drama World Tour
Total Drama Pahkitew + Revenge
2 more seasons of these characters
Ridonculous Race
1 or 2 more season of Ridonculous Race
Instead of All Stars
Total Drama All Stars Vs Underdogs
The HBO MAX Seasons
(This list is in a dream world where cartoon network isn't cheap and decided not to make a huge gap in the seasons.)
If they really wanted to do Total dramarama they should've just made it like a one season netflix mini series.
Dramarama such a DISAPPOINTMENT
You should do 24 so Jasmine can be added and add max to villains so there can be a funny character
18. Cameron (Heroes)
17. Lightning (Villains)
16. Eva (Villains)
15. Anne Maria (Villains)
(Duncan and Courtney Switch Teams)
14. Jo (Villains)
(Duncan and Gwen Break up)
13. Lindsay (Heroes)
12. Leshawna (Heroes)
11. Heather (Villains)
(MERGE)
10. Brick (Zoey Wins)
9. Duncan (Mike & Zoey Win)
8. Owen (Alejandro Wins)
7. Zoey (Alejandro Wins)
6. Alejandro (Mike Wins)
5. Courtney (Dawn Wins)
4. Gwen (Mike Wins)
3. Mike (Dawn Wins)
2. Scott
1. Dawn
Very nice list
Sierra was on All Stars because she made it far, Owen, Brick and Anna Maria were scrapped for no reason at all and Beth wasn't on all stars because she wasn't a fan favorite (just like Sierra who didnt make it as far as her)
Hmmm. Let me see. My way with this cast with reasons:
22nd Lindsay (I will keep her as first boot since she adds no drama and in a season like this it gives a lot)
21st Lightning (original. It was one of the only good eliminations in the original)
20th Owen (I could see him eating too much of the pancake and throwing up costing team the challenge. As to why here....bias I guess. I was never a fan of Owen)
19th Jo (Heather)
18th Sugar (I could see Topher,Alejandro and Justin teaming up and targeting people starting with her)
17th Dawn (she did nothing in s4 idk why she is a fan fav. 17th fits)
16th Cameron (Mal would boot him out fearing he would expose him. He is smarter than Zoey who while yes suspects something is wrong would need more time to figure it out)
15th Heather (Alejandro's alliance vs Heather,Courtney,Duncan and Scott with Anne Maria in the middle. Alejandro had the idol so Heather was out)
14th Sky (just kinda fits here)
13th Duncan (so he goes pre merge in at least one season)
12th Alejandro (Topher amd Justin betrayed him)
MERGE
Remaining contestants: Topher,Justin,Courtney,Anne Maria,Scott,Gwen,Mike,Zoey,Shawn,Harold,Brick
11th Zoey (have Alejandro expose Mal before getting out and Zoey help Mike get control again but getting out becouse of it)
10th Shawn (auto elimination or smthn)
9th Mike (a threat)
8th Topher (Justin and Courtney make an alliance like in Action plus Scott and Justin betrays Topher)
7th Gwen (She won already. 7th is good)
6th Anne Maria (have her be the comic relief)
5th Justin (secondary villain of the season. Have Courtney and Scott vote him out for balance in the next voting or smthn)
4th Brick (would lose a tie breaker against Courtney)
3rd Harold (I prefer Scott and Courtney finale)
Oroginal winner: Courtney
Alternate winner: Scott
Wow well thought out!
@@ListsofLegends thanks! Took me whole 15 mins 😂😂😂😂 id usually give it more thought but I kinda dont have time.
@@ghostplasma5590 plenty if you ask me lol imagine if you had prep time
@@ListsofLegends then my videos come up. Thats why I post once a year. Definetly not becouse Im lazy lmao
@@ghostplasma5590 yeah I don’t blame you lol UA-cam takes a lot go work the most recent video I did took me 6 hours to edit
Tbh, I feel like Heroes vs Villains COULD work, if it was handled right. TD is a show where you have SO MANY anti-heroes, right? People you can't really classify as good or evil? What if the Heroes vs Villains set up is a commentary on stereotyping certain people, shoving them into certain roles for the sake of black and white TV world? What if the villains have their own moments of humanity and kindness that they're shunned for because of their roles? What if the heroes are forced to be overly nice and perfect for the sake of the camera? What if the villains can admit they've made some mistakes that they regret, and want redemption? What if the heroes have their own selfish wishes? Plus, this would fit in Total Drama, as a parody of reality TV.
I feel like the only character who gets into that, slightly, is Gwen. But even then, the focus for her was more so on making amends with Courtney. But in this route, her being a Villainous Vulture COULD be an interesting arc for her, if done right.
I could definitely imagine a plotline where 6-8 contestants, (people from BOTH TEAMS), are fed up with the heroes vs villain tropes and make an alliance to screw with the game. (Neutral Nightingales, as I'd call it) This alliance would also come into play with the game's functioning being screwed, and discovering Mal's identity. (Depending on whether or not Mike is a Neutral member. If he isn't, then it's a classic spy case, if he is, it brings drama to the alliance on who they can trust.) I can imagine them working off the eliminations of fellow neutral members.
I would personally have the finalists be Courtney and Zoey. I could see Courtney leading the neutral alliance, and having a redemption arc, and if she were to switch teams like in canon, she'd be tied to both sides and basically be the protag of the season. Zoey meanwhile is tied to Mike, therefore tied to Mal, and is also a compassionate figure who can win people over, being a counteract to Courtney as someone who can easily make the same mistakes Courtney did, but hasn't quite yet.
But YES, more cast members, 26 episodes, definitely. COME ON. IT'S ALL STARS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
All stars was the ultimate disappointment, Character Derailment, 13 Episodes, Mal, and even a Short Theme Song :(
They picked the wrong character voiced by Brian Froud for All Stars. Lol.
Yep
justin would be the first to findout who mal is.
and ale and justin would have a great rivalry
They really would
They could have added Brick instead of Sam added Owen and Anne Maria
Replaced Sierra with Leshawna had at least 18 or 17 episodes have interactions between the characters and also not make some characters idiots have the challenges more explosive and dangerous
The finalist should also be
Courtney Vs Scott or
Courtney Vs Brick
More importantly we should have seen them eating in the cafeteria 😅
Yeah if only I suppose only in my dreams lol
YES THE CAFETERIA
Scott,lightning and jo were the only characters who weren't derailed.
Here is my allstars fan cast using what list legends picked for the characters. And I'll have the teams be like previous TD casts where it's more fair.
Team 1. The steel oxen
Lindsay
Harold
Scott
Duncan
Brick
Owen
Sugar
Zoey
Mike
Dawn
Team 2. The quick equestrians
Topher
Heather
Shawn
Anne Marie
Gwen
Courtney
Justin
Alehadro
Cameron
Lightning
Scott I believe was because he had such villainous aspects in revenge only for him to do literally nothing in all stars but yeah Jo and Lighting were actually pretty consistent
@@ListsofLegends scott was still the comedic villain and they barely fiddled with his character.
@@ListsofLegends also. What's your thoughts on the teams created and who i put on what team?
I intentionally placed each member on each team to cause some literal total drama
@@floofycupkim1197 yea
I personally would trade Dawn for LeShawna. Not sure if you forgot about her but yeah I think that makes sense.
Yeah I did at this time I’m not gonna cap lol
@@ListsofLegends I used to do TD vids and you have no idea how much people told me that I forgot to put in for my Top 10s! I do Survivor now
Look ik no one likes Dave, but I think he’d be better than sky in all stars, sky is literally zoey 2.0 and has no reason being there, Dave on the other hand I get hes annoying with his whole simp gimmick but I feel like swapping in zoey as sky’s replacement for him would be good and would cause some extra drama between Mike and Dave, it’s always good to have a character to root against remember that.
Im crying why didn't you choose Leshawna..
Here is how I would do the cast:
Also there are requirements to get in.
You have to MERGE at least once, but not all mergers get in. Also, ROTI characters only had 1 season, so making it at LEAST as far as episode 7 there counts.
I would keep the original cast but remove Sam and replace him with Brick firstly. Sam doesn’t fit the criteria. I’d also add Anne Maria because she’s the ONLY other ROTI character that qualifies. Dawn, B and Staci all had very little screen time, Sam doesn’t fit the criteria either and Dakota was an intern in more than half of her episodes.(I’m making this cast 22 people btw, also this assumes seasons 1-4 went by as they did.) I would also add Owen as someone who merged every time he played, a fan fav and the most well known contestant. For underdogs, I’m adding Beth and Cody as they are both underdogs that made final 3, and in Beth’s case made it to the final 2. Also adding Harold because he meets the criteria and people want him back, as well as Leshawna because it wouldn’t make sense to add Harold without Leshawna. I also picked Justin because him and Alejandro NEED to meet and have a rivalry, and my last spot goes to Izzy because it makes the most sense out of all the remaining female choices. Elimination order too:
22nd. Beth
21st. Scott
20th. Anne Maria
19th. Lightning
18th. Sierra
17th. Cody
16th. Duncan
15th. Owen
14th. Izzy
13th. Heather
12th. Mike
Merge!
11th. Cameron
10th. Gwen
9th. Jo
8th. Leshawna
7th. Justin
6th. Alejandro
5th. Zoey
4th. Lindsay
3rd. Harold
Finale!
2nd. Brick
1st. Courtney
Yes I agree with your final 2
Thanks! Love the cast and details you put into it !
@@ListsofLegends thx :)
I'd have episode 1 be the introductions, the first merge round be for a reward, and three aftermath episodes
In my opinion Geoff, Bridgette, DJ, Leshawna, Tyler, Trent, Beth, Scarlett, Dave, Jasmine, Noah, Sammy, Ella, and Cody also should’ve been in all stars
All stars really could have been the best season ever but they took the easier route and gave us that mess
why not to Scott vs dawn bc they were kinda rival
They could be honestly forgot about that
@@ListsofLegends that could be true
Some characters are robbed this season but I want to talk about Gwen's elimination it's unfair since Chris said that bring the item that you get assigned with but the only people who bring item they get to assign to is Zoey and Gwen we have the top two but I think the writers thinks that there's no villain going in to top two but they didn't think atleast make top 3 since it was a tie 2-2 two heroes and villains I really see Zoey or Gwen winning this because they both won for me considering track record I think Mike's win is not really a deserving winner since he's on his mind this whole season and zoey winning I think was fine since she is a team player mostly she put a lot of effort here
Zoey won like the last 3 challenges which was very annoying and Gwen was definitely robbed
@@ListsofLegends agree
You lost me at the cast including one note characters like sky and topher over actual all stars like leshawna and Izzy
I can’t just add only gen 1 characters
I thought Sierra was All Star worthy?
I’m mixed at this point honestly, but one things for sure I find her very annoying and would have preferred Brick or Owen instead
@@ListsofLegends I agree that Brick and Owen should’ve been in All-Stars even though I don’t like Owen.
As much as I like Dawn, she’s no all-star.
Yeah I’m trust me I see that now lol
@@ListsofLegends another problem with your cast is the gender split, I noticed you added 12 guys and 10 girls
@@ethanalgicosathlonchannel1110 close enough lol
You lost me when you said owen should have one twice, he should have been the first one out
No I was saying if they were to do a double winner Owen I wouldn’t mind winning agajn
owen has to atleast compete in the pancake challgene
Jasmine Snubbed
Lol
Of dawn vs scott
Would have been cool
you should do a fixing Total Drama Pakitew Island, please do it! i hate that season and i'd love to see it new and improved
Glad to hear! Coming up soon!