I remember reading somewhere (I forget where) in the original idea he was supposed to be in the Heather alliance and eliminated in Courtney's place. I forget why it was changed I think it was to make the alliance all girls
Well Chris didn't turn him into one, it happened when Zeke stowed away on the plane and started living with the rats. Exploiting him for challenges was all Chris tho lmao
"Chris" didn't turn him into a golum. That was all self inflicted by Ezekiel's own stubborness and refusal to accept the reality that he was voted out, he's useless, caused his team to lose and nobody likes him. He feels like he's entitled to the prize money just because he got eliminated twice. You think Chris could have used Ezekiel the way he did if the annoying gremlin didn't hide himself in the plane's storage for weeks, if not months? Besides, it's not like Chris only used *him* for the challenges. He used *everyone* for the challenges
Can't wait for the new 2 seasons coming soon. I hope it's good enough to replace Revenge of the Island and Pakhetiew Island since Ridonculous Race replaces All Stars in a way.
Honestly the only character that definitely was done dirty in every single season is LINDSAY like...that woman literally had character development, a funny likeable personality and actually was in the game and the producers never gave her the chance and that sucks
And leshawna and Beth. I would’ve loved it more if leshawna won and in the cooking episode, OWEN should’ve been voted off because he literally, as leshawna said, “ATE THAT ENTIRE PLATE OF RIBS!” I get why Beth was eliminated though, but it still seemed a bit unfair
He was one of my faves purely because his relationship with Owen was a spot on mirror of Chris Farley and David Spade at the peak of their buddy comedy careers.
Yes. i think they should have made him the villain in season 2 instead of courtney, courtney is my favorite character and her writing in action was terrible. Also Lindsey vs Duncan not happening is still a sore wound.
Noah is an example of what Courtney could have been if she wasn’t so competitive and had social skills (this is coming from someone who loves Courtney). He was smart, witty, and although a bit too cold, overall a likeable person. In both of their audition tapes, Noah and Courtney mention their school president role. The different between the two is that, Courtney is clearly desperate to win this role (her whole audition tape is about it), and offends her classmate who’s filming for her due to not leveling up to her standards. As for Noah, he calmly speaks to the camera, and his president role is only brought up when a classmate of his congrats him on his achievement. If the writers didn’t want to use Noah (which is a shame cause he’s such an entertaining character) they could have used him as a device to develop Courtney (and potentially vice versa) by showing her a character with the same ambitions as she has doesn’t need to be straight up obsessive with their goals, and try to understand people better.
Yeah and maybe if she didn't act like a Karen and starts whining and does everything in her power to ruin everything if she doesn't get what she wants. I Love her but like after season 1 it was just horrible.
Ya that was so unfair. Would've been much fairer if Noah and Owen were the ones to accidentally catch Duncan and so were sent to elimination for a real reason instead of blatant bias.
The show did a lot of BS eliminations from what I remember of the first 3 seasons. Leshawna's elimination in TDI was still the worst one imo and I don't blame fans for throwing racial bias accusations towards the show writers for that.
@Leider Tears Thanks for that. People are far too eager to play the race card. Yes, her elimination was indeed bs but that has nothing to do with her race. Lashawna was one of the best contestants and had a truly inspiring goal for the cash prize. They could have written her to be literally useless (like other characters later on. Particularly one "wizard" that just so happens to be black. Hmm...) but they didn't. Her elimination was bs because she stood such a good chance of winning. The fact she could have won because she had skills and was competitive but still friendly, was very likable, stood up to bullies, and had little patience for people's crap, and had noble goals is more so why I am sad she was eliminated. If it was a character no one liked or was one we are supposed to hate anyway, no one would care how bs the elimination was but when it is done to someone like Lashawna, her character and goals, not her skin, are what make those types of eliminations sting.
Can we just talk about how Duncan got WAY too much screen time. He makes it too the final four TWICE AND gets some of the biggest plot lines in the seasons he doesn’t get to the final four. It’s ridiculous.
To be fair Heather also has this situation but I think it's because they're bigger antagonistic characters that the writiers probably enjoy writing for than some of the other characters. Personally I'd like harold or Lashawna or even izzy to have gotten further in the series but that's because I like some of the bigger personality characters like that :P
My theory is that the writers were simping for Duncan so hard that they didn't want to write him out of the script until/unless they were forced to. Him being a fan favorite gave them more excuses too.
@@vicentekokaly322 It might not literally be "no reason" but it's as close as you could probably get, considering Team Chris literally wins the challenge but Chris decides they don't and have to eliminate someone instead. I guess they didn't want to take any focus away from Heather and Alejandro's rivalry/romance so they couldn't have Noah actually do... Basically anything.
Honestly I feel like Noah's random relationship with Emma was just FreshTV desperately trying to no homo Noah after finding out a lot of the fandom interpreted him to be gay.
What I loved about the Noah & Owen duo was their very like “yin-yang” vibe: Noah being intelligent and pessimistic while Owen is... not so intelligent but optimistic.
You gotta admit though, he was wrongfully eliminated in the London episode. Noah and Owen captured Jack the Ripper/Ezekiel which was the goal of the challenge. But team Amazon won because they found Duncan and brought him to Chris and THAT WAS NOT THE GOAL. Noah was robbed.
@@choiproductionsyt OK what if he was just eliminated in Greece instead. Make it so in London Chris says both teams did to well to eliminate anybody. Then in Greece, Alejandro convinces both Duncan and Tyler to vote Noah, saying he'll help them next time as long as they help him, meaning Noah is kicked out.
Idk about anyone else but Trent and Gwen's absolute self destruction almost turned me off to season two in general. I can't for the life of me understand what the purpose of having Trent and Gwen pick the teams and be captains if they are eliminated back to back. Trent turning into a simp and Gwen getting eliminated right after due to guilt was a big waste of time and opportunity considering how far Gwen got in season 1.
@@ryla8195 Cartoon Network forced that to happen. I think to make Courtney and Duncan a real relationship, it would have to make Courtney a likeable character in Season 2 and 3.
@@ryla8195 seriously though the love triangle basically ruined everything with the three of them. Courtney was already not looking that great in season 2 but they completely killed her in season 3.
Trent was done _dirty as hell._ There were so, SO many other things they could have done with him (or even strained their relationship) without making him go crazy for absolutely no reason 💀
Fun Fact: DJ is the only member of the original cast to never get voted off In TDI, he lost the challenge and was automatically kicked off by default. In TDA, he quit because the guilt of his alliance with Chef got the best of him And in TDWT, he was the last member of his team and he lost the challenge. This is officially my most like comment ever Thanks
@Mario Kart animations Faiyad Until revenge of the island and the others (excluding total dramarama and Ridonuculous Race and also correct me if I spelt it wrong)
Noah's stereotype in Total Drama Island was "The Schemer" but it was changed to "The High IQ" in Total Drama World Tour. Mark Thornton and Todd Kauffman have hinted in an interview that this was because Noah was apparently conceived as a somewhat villainous contestant early on.
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 who cares?! This is literally just a normal damn comment how the fuck is this stolen? You seriously can't be THIS stupid.
Noah is popular solely due to fan fiction. Fan fic writers love writing snarky characters and Noah is a one-liner machine. The actual writers didn’t care because every Total Drama character gets to be sarcastic, but Noah lodged his way into the fan’s heart with nothing but his great wit.
There was a really dark fanfic called "Despair Island" where instead of everyone getting voted off the island in TDI, Chris just _murders_ them. Noah epically uses his brain in the awake-a-thon episode to find a "Life Idol" and gives it to Chris discretely, then spends the entire dodgeball challenge acting _intentionally_ as unhelpful as possible so everyone will vote him off and he can escape with his life. He's one of the five contestants to survive all the way through.
I wrote a fan-fiction called “Total Drama Fan-Fiction Theater” that deconstructed Owen’s and Noah’s friendship, Noah even questions why he is friends with someone so different from him.
My list of missed potential in total drama - Noah and Tyler development - The season 4 cast not getting enough love and chances for development (especially Dawn and B) - Everything about season 5 - A good spin-off instead of Dramarama like a ridiculous race 2 or anything else
I always thought of a second ridoncolous race with more of the original and second trilogy like Joey and mike and maybe heather and Alejandro Lindsay and Tyler that I think woulda been cool
The "Owen is a mole" subplot didn't make me dislike Owen as a character (especially since I kept thinking he would come clean due to being Owen) but it actually INFURIATED me when Owen single-handedly ruined the development between Harold and Duncan! They were almost friends and then he sabotaged it. That's when the subplot went from kind of dumb, but minor, to incredibly aggravating.
@@nicoleflores2054 yeah, you would think that the two would attempt to put aside their differences after what happen in Season 1, maybe even Harold convincing Duncan that Courtney wasn't the complete saint she looked to be during the time she on Island and Action.
Noah and Tyler are definitely the most missed opportunities of the whole series, should have merged both instead of Owen and Duncan who contributed to basically nothing in world tour
It's not like Noah and Tyler contributed more during their stay, they actually did less than Owen and Duncan in World Tour. And I love all 4 of these characters
@@Robalexe yeah but to be honest, Duncan and Owen are way too fan favorite coming from the series's writing, which seeing Owen being vote off early (probably by sacrificing his time for the game) for Noah to get to the merge and Duncan as well for Tyler to get more screentime.
...they contributed to more than Noah and Tyler, you can say they were less interesting, but you can't say they contributed to nothing when the mid season was mostly about the love triangle
Noah's my favourite character but i gotta say I think he was trash in season 1 He did nothing to help His Raichu team and he totally deserved to be eliminated Thankfully he got better
@@princibles yeaa team Amazon was like a rlly crazy team but like the couldn’t have won the first couple of challenges without Cody and sierra since Courtney, Gwen and heather just fought all the time
@@kaec8658 yea same, I loved her relationship with Duncan right before she got eliminated and her character just kind of got more possessive and jealous over Duncan and ruined her character
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I need to see that, recently watched all seasons and made a rankings myself and I'd love to compare mine to his. Really interested to see his opinion on controversial characters like Courtney, Mike and more.
here's the thing though, some of the characters devolve so terribly as the seasons progress. Like, Courtney in S1 is incredible, but by the end she's unbearable.
Honestly Noah really should have won the aftermath special competition and gone back to the show. If he got paired with Owen in the Niagara episode he would have had some great comedy moments. He probably would have talked about how ridiculous a lot of that challenge is. Just imagine his line deliver if he was like fine I'll be in the wedding the dress. He would come to the conclusion that it would be easier for Owen to carry him instead of vise versa
I agree w the noah and owen being the "married couple" in that one WT challenge, I think that'd make a lot more sense for bonding purposes since he is owen's partner in RR
Noah and Courtney were also into Student Government stuff back at their hometowns. While Courtney struggled for support Noah was his schools Student body President.
Gonna be honest, Noah and Owen's friendship was a delightful surprise in World Tour and I think it met its full potential in Redonculous Race. They have a great dynamic of someone who is small, snarky, and intelligent paired with someone who is large, kind-hearted, and a tad bit dim-witted. It was a ton of fun to watch, and I genuinely hope they make a return in the next seasons that are coming soon.
The main thing I remember from my Total Drama days was the Gwen/Duncan versus Courtney/Duncan shippers. The most big-brained move I made was shipping Gwen and Courtney together instead 😌
they all suck. duncney came out of nowhere, as fun as it was. gwuncan was some stupidass love triangle which messed up world tour, and gwourtney's dynamic is ruined. this is noco levels of bad ships, especially gwuncan
I think the word you mean is under used and he wasn’t that under used anyway. He is actually extremely overrated as he has a huge fan base considering his small amount of screen time. Underrated means a character contributed much and is a likeable character with a relatively small fan base, so please don’t word what you say wrong about an overrated character.
They are the anti's of each other. Noah's smart and Justin's stupid, Noah's weak and Justin's buff, Justin's hot and Noah's not. They still have a lot of similarities, they're both lazy and egotistical.
6:57 Apparently TvTropes mentions that Noah was actually supposed to form an alliance with Heather in the first half, with his job being to spy on the boys for her, and Heather would have eliminated him in the 15th episode of the season. It was dropped because the writers wanted Heather's alliance to be all girls, hence Noah's early elimination as well as Eva's sudden return in the 15th episode. So, you were right!
I think there's a whole fanfiction series dedicated to giving Noah a literal second chance as he's sent back in time with all his memories to try and change his fate. He makes it to the final four in the first season. Don't know about the rest, I forgot to read it.
Yeah but honestly Zeke didn't have much personality besides being a homeschool prairie person, the whole monster angle at least kept him relevant in my opinion
@@williampilling6576 we didn't know much of his personality to start with you can find cool facts about him in the wiki but other than that he was wasted potential him and Noah
Do you know that Noah was originally planned to be an Heather alliance but they had to cut him out of the alliance because they wanted an all girl alliance
I think I heard from a comment that originally the merge was going to consist of 15 people, the episode would be basic straining, and Noah would be eliminated there. Not sure how they got 15 people because currently there were 14 people, I guess the eliminations were just different. I don't have a way to confirm it, but I heard it off a comment.
It's funny how you talk about how useless Katie and Sadie are. I always wanted a plot line with them, not necessarily splitting up but making new friends/becoming less dependent on each other. Katie's bio mentions her sewing and "thinking with her heart", while Sadie's says she thinks with her head. They have differences, and I feel like there could have been more to them.
For people wondering why people think Noah is gay, it’s because he is queer-coded. Queer-coded means that the character is never explicitly said to be gay, but the audience reads them to be. TD is filled with stereotypes, and Noah fits this by being snarky, self-centered, and borderline dramatic. Noah also does not have any traditional masculine traits. He doesn’t like sports or physical activity. When he does run in TDDDDI, even Eva says he “runs like a girl” because he ran with his hands at his sides. Another aspect is it seems like Noah has some internalized homophobia with how adamant he is when denying the sleeping ear kiss. He is embraced about it because he was asleep. People don’t say the kiss shows Noah is gay. It’s how he denied it. Plus, people use the kiss to show parallels to other hetero couples sleeping cuddled up together. The best example is Courtney and Duncan waking up and immediately blaming the other for unconsciously cuddling. Not only did Noah cuddle with Cody in the main series but again in the celebrity manhunt special outside of the bus. There are other jokes in the series that comment on Noah’s sexuality. The main one is with Owen when trying to convince DJ to join an alliance. Noah says asking people into an alliance is a lot like asking someone on a date. Owen then proceeds to tell DJ that Noah is attracted to him. For a more detailed explanation, look up “Noah is gay coded” by tolstoynoah on the amino apps total drama section.
I mean, he’s just kinda lazy( the character in canon, not his writing). There are other smart individuals in the series that actually care about the game and put effort in, and they make great characters. I am not sure I’m a fan of this “I’m too smart to care and put effort in” mentality that he carries, although he gets better with time. That being said, he’s hysterical so of course I love him.
@@epicgamer8326 i am probably projecting on this since Noah is my favorite character and i identifie to him a lot but here's my take on his behavior : 1- people like Noah don't know how to make efforts for a simple reason : they never hade to, every basic knowledges was learned very fast ,in Noah's case his whole life up to highschool has been one sweet ride on his mental capacity's ,it is likely that he never hade to take more than an hour of his day to do his homeworks or learn his lessons, resulting in a total lack of work etic 2- as kids people like Noah are praised all the time for being " gifted " ,in his case again it seem that it keep going in highschool, imagine the superiority complex you would get if everyone you knew keep telling you how much smarter and more mature you are then everyone else, it's the kind of complex that only the hard punch of your first big failure will shatter ( for Noah, his elimination in TDI) 3-being great at everything for so long make it harder deal with failure than it should be, people like this are often perfectionnists but it can result in a more strange behavior, the personne will never go 100% in anything and sometime they don't even try ( it obvioulsy resulte in constant failure anytime something is slightly harder) not trying come from the obvious " if i don't do it i can't fail at it " and never giving your all come from " i failed but it wasn't the best i can do so it's not that am not good enought " both are ways reasure themself about their own capacitys (basiclly you "purposly " fail so you never feel like a failure ,make sense right ?) In conclusion to me Noah don't act the way he does because he think he is " too smart " but rather because of a mixe of the three things i listed above that are common traits you can find in people with high potentiel Then again i may be saying massive BS because of my need to identify to Noah but it just really seem to fit with the way he refuse to play the dodgeball game ( " if i don't do it i can't fail at it ") and with his personality type in general Here was my massive Noah rant because im obssed with him thank you for reading and have a good day (also im french so i don't know if you understand any of what i said)
Dude is literally known as “the High I.Q.” and yet later seasons just characterize him as a generic sarcastic snarker because his debut episode happened to feature some snide remarks
that's what im saying. Ridonculous race might have gave him development but it lowkey ruined his character. In tdwt he could've had a storyline with Alejandro since he was one of the two to only catch on to him. That would make him look more high IQ.
I actually don’t think Noah is the most wasted character but Eva. It’s the person that got the least scenes in all 3 seasons. She could have been a great character but she didn’t even have the chance. She got a few scenes in the aftermaths and the special episodes but fr that’s it. I would have loved to saw her character development and a different side of her. The only impression we got was a strong angry woman. If they ever bring back the original cast let Eva be on the season.😊
noah had so much potential. he could’ve been, like, heather-type villain. world tour is one of my favs for putting noah back in & ridonculous race noah was good-but world tour was 10 times better.
If I gotta be honest, Noah would be a terrible villain. Noah is the most lazy person on reality television, he has little to no interest in even being alive. At best, Noah can be a villains worst nightmare because of Noah's high common sense level.
I just think that Noah should’ve survived longer in world tour. Make the ripper challenge non-elimination, have duncan eliminated in Greece as he’d already been in final 4 twice, make Area 51 non elimination and have the last 2 pre-merge rounds go by as normal. Don’t have Blainely join, so merge: Owen Heather Alejandro Noah Tyler Courtney Sierra Cody Have Owen get voted out first, then Courtney in china and Tyler in capture Ezekiel. Then have Noah go at 5th place. That’s what I wish happened, I wish him and Tyler got at least merge in tour.
The weirdest part of the show for me was how much screen time went to the Gwen/Duncan/Courtney love triangle just to not at all dissect how abusive they kind of both were towards him. Especially in all star. What was the point???? Why even focus on it if you’re not going to have it end in any satisfying way. Literally just Duncan getting endlessly fucked with and then going to jail.
Yep. Love how we ended up losing out on Gwen and Courtney’s friendship, Gwen and Duncan’s friendship, and the pure-er days of Courtney and Duncan as a couple just for all three to now be enemies and with Duncan in jail...
@@bilis2866 I’m not against the love triangle, I thought it was interesting, I just think Duncan got really badly fucked over at all times by both of them and then got thrown in jail with the overall tone of “he got what he deserved.” It was just weirdly mean spirited to him.
@@logantharp6066 I imagine if that was the case Noah and Eva's alliance would be just plain business with each other, but because of Owen, they feel bad for manipulating him and decided to actually be friends. Then when Heather gets Eva eliminated Noah gets suspicious and that's what starts their rivalry
One thing I can’t believe is that you never mentioned is that in the first episode when Noah is introduced he says that he has deathly allergies but since it never comes up again I think they gave the allergies to Cody in the third season
I wish there were more characters like Noah in cartoon shows. There's something that I like about a sarcastic smartass who has his/her character developed more throughout the series.
@@alexverdana2435 Yeah, I really like the way how it parodies most last man standing like Survivor and the art-style, definitely cruel, represents the tone it was going for. It's nothing groundbreaking, but was a lot of fun.
I thought the Ridonculous Race characterized him pretty well. Sure most of his interactions were wooing over Emma, but I liked him what they did with him in the later seasons. Noah was great in moderation. Too much of him might’ve ruined his character
I kinda feel like the season peaked in every episode until Duncan rejoined. Mostly cause Team Chris is really hot had the best interactions in the show.
I agree almost entirely in the rewrite, but would change Noah's implementation in Season 1 slightly. I don't think that Noah should get Owen into an alliance in the first season, because it ruins the idea that Owen goofed his way into the final two and winning the game, and putting Owen in an alliance will make him seem too similar to Lindsay. Instead, after eliminating Katie and Sadie (move the camping episode to the second challenge, then vote Sadie off in the dodge ball game because she's too sad to compete), Noah tries to follow Heather's lead and form his own alliance. The problem is, every person he courts ends up getting eliminated.Specifically, he tries to get Izzy and Cody into an alliance but they both leave the game in the exact same episode. By this point, Heather realizes what he's trying (and failing) to do and votes him off relatively early in the same episode that Sadie originally got voted off, because he's the only other person using strategy in the game. This way, Noah doesn't make it to the merge in season 1 but still plays a greater role overall and learns from his mistakes to make it further in Schaffrillas's proposed Action and World Tour timelines.
Noah is a character I felt was wasted. He is one of three characters who IQ is confirmed(the other being izzy and Alejandro) all three being around the 180-190 range. Which is very impressive, and all three shown to be very intelligent(Noah seeing through Alejandro's facade) But I feel he had SO much potential, I mean he was called the Schemer. Like imagine him doing something akin to Heather, but more passive. Playing the role of an innocent nerd. Who goes unnoticed but knows when to strike. It wouldve been great to see tbh. Im glad later seasons saw his potential, but he was wasted on the first season. I feel if the writers focused on him he could be a perfect mix of Courtney's and Heather's best traits. Organized and intelligent but scheming and manipulative. The Schemer needs his time to shine.
@Griffin Ellis Her first time being eliminated helped established Heather as a threat, so it works perfectly in a narrative standpoint. The most they could really do with her character is give her team the dilemma of deciding whether her athletic prowess is worth putting up with her antics. Which would have gotten old fast.
Yes. The nerve of the show to vote him out third and write him out of the second season. He’s literally one of the funniest characters in the whole series.
@@elmasterdezoologia6641 they did good with him in ridonculus race, and given the last words of Owen and Noah, he's basically confirmed for the next season(s). So yeah, I'm hopeful
I was like “antagonist Noah?? I don’t like the sound of that, I always liked how despite his sarcasm he’s generally a good guy and only sometimes is he unnecessarily rude” but I kept watching and yes… he knows it’s a reality tv show so he tries to do manipulative stuff to get far but ends up liking people? It would also be a great way to develop his character instead of “he becomes nicer because Emma is pretty” like no offense to the shippers or people who liked that plot line but that barely makes sense… ANYWAYS I would TOTALLY read this rewrite if someone wrote it lol. Heck, I would even write it myself if I had the energy (and mental stability to rewatch season one, that season literally traumatized me why was it so disturbing at times 😭) (before anyone judges too hard for that, I was 6, and yes I had/have anxiety lol. Still loved the show back then)
Thank you for siding with me on that abysmal Total Drama All Stars. It's like they forgot how to write characters and completely train wrecked Duncan, Gwen, Courtney and basically everyone except for Zoey and Mike
Yeah All-Star will always be my least favorite season. Pahkitew Island might have had mostly forgettable cast but at least it did not ruin/flanderize previously amazing characters like All-stars did
I liked it, I enjoyed how the old characters had kinda served their purpose, as well as the fact that finally Chris was beginning to have to pay for his crimes (with everything being irradiated and the EPA going after him).
@@choiproductionsyt I watched some of it because I got bored. It's not really that good but it's generally pretty harmless. I did like Cody in it tho he just gets abused the entire time tho.
Noah leads the whole team in the London challenge and finds the ripper only to get eliminated? I wanted to jump off of a cliff at the end of that episode
*TOTAL DRAMA 2023 SPOILERS* Damn, it feels like the Total Drama writers watched this video and were like "Hey, why don't we take this idea and turn it into a completely different character?" And that's how MK was born /s
Fuck knows, TDA had such a good lineup of characters since the merge and then just eliminated them one by one Justin, Lindsay and Harold leaving back to back to back was a gut punch
“Do Noah and Justin have some sort of rivalry?”
yeah fighting for owen’s affection
@@joshroehl6098 stop spamming your song into the comment sections of random videos
@@joshroehl6098 your song is straight trash.
There is a tumblr comic called totaltrauma and the three of them are in a polyamorous relationship in it ,warning it can be very dark
@@khalakrean6890 i saw that hours ago and thought it was really cute
@@khalakrean6890 Ah I remember that, I made up a ship name JuOwAh
I can’t believe Katie and Sadie made it further then Noah in S1
I hate those two with a passion
@@zakariahborenyi5717 it's girls supporting girls until it's them.
@@hyesterical what.
I kinda hated that Duo
So did Justin
In Noah’s audition he says he’s got “A plan”. They were obviously intending to do more with Noah.
I think that may have been more of a joke since he got eliminated so early.
I remember reading somewhere (I forget where) in the original idea he was supposed to be in the Heather alliance and eliminated in Courtney's place. I forget why it was changed I think it was to make the alliance all girls
@@AnthonyLBalsano that amazing I wish they did more with it
I did have a plan. The directors ruined it tho!!
@@noah2698 cooooooorny
The world would not be ready for a Noah and heather alliance
Oh my god that would be bad
We'd destroy
We fucked if that ever happened, straight up were dead.
@@noah2698 w
They'd be invincible
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Chris turned Ezekiel into a Golum creature and used him for challenges.
Well Chris didn't turn him into one, it happened when Zeke stowed away on the plane and started living with the rats. Exploiting him for challenges was all Chris tho lmao
So tdi fans have their version of this spongebob joke?
"Chris" didn't turn him into a golum. That was all self inflicted by Ezekiel's own stubborness and refusal to accept the reality that he was voted out, he's useless, caused his team to lose and nobody likes him. He feels like he's entitled to the prize money just because he got eliminated twice. You think Chris could have used Ezekiel the way he did if the annoying gremlin didn't hide himself in the plane's storage for weeks, if not months?
Besides, it's not like Chris only used *him* for the challenges. He used *everyone* for the challenges
You know Ezekiel? This is him now
*shows photo of Prince Phillip
Feel old yet?
@@carsondubs
Prince Phillip died today btw.
God I loved this show.
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Can't wait for the new 2 seasons coming soon. I hope it's good enough to replace Revenge of the Island and Pakhetiew Island since Ridonculous Race replaces All Stars in a way.
Most of us did!
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Honestly the only character that definitely was done dirty in every single season is LINDSAY like...that woman literally had character development, a funny likeable personality and actually was in the game and the producers never gave her the chance and that sucks
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She should've made final 2 in Action. I honestly don't know why they pushed Beth so hard in that season. She's so boring.
@@kat-mq9zx Her and Leshawna. Justice for my girls
And leshawna and Beth. I would’ve loved it more if leshawna won and in the cooking episode, OWEN should’ve been voted off because he literally, as leshawna said, “ATE THAT ENTIRE PLATE OF RIBS!” I get why Beth was eliminated though, but it still seemed a bit unfair
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like she should have at least won one season
He was one of my faves purely because his relationship with Owen was a spot on mirror of Chris Farley and David Spade at the peak of their buddy comedy careers.
Had no idea that you were into TD...
Wow my idol is also into TD, damn.
I didn't know you watched total drama.
🤯 i never made that connection....WOW!!
Do a why you wouldn’t survive total drama lol🤣
now he has to make a ranking of all the world tour songs
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I always felt Noah was the smartest contestant without dipping into the nerd category. He'd make an amazing hidden villain if written properly.
Technically, he has an iq of 180. Izzy has an iq of 188.
Yes. i think they should have made him the villain in season 2 instead of courtney, courtney is my favorite character and her writing in action was terrible. Also Lindsey vs Duncan not happening is still a sore wound.
@@microwave8931 Izzy is insane(ly smart)
@@microwave8931 I was 16-17 around when this show began, and Izzy solidified my ISO.
There are fanfics where Noah is written as a really good Anti-Villian. The Total Shuffled Island series is a good example.
Noah is an example of what Courtney could have been if she wasn’t so competitive and had social skills (this is coming from someone who loves Courtney). He was smart, witty, and although a bit too cold, overall a likeable person. In both of their audition tapes, Noah and Courtney mention their school president role. The different between the two is that, Courtney is clearly desperate to win this role (her whole audition tape is about it), and offends her classmate who’s filming for her due to not leveling up to her standards. As for Noah, he calmly speaks to the camera, and his president role is only brought up when a classmate of his congrats him on his achievement. If the writers didn’t want to use Noah (which is a shame cause he’s such an entertaining character) they could have used him as a device to develop Courtney (and potentially vice versa) by showing her a character with the same ambitions as she has doesn’t need to be straight up obsessive with their goals, and try to understand people better.
as someone who loves both, this comment is just, potential.
Yeah and maybe if she didn't act like a Karen and starts whining and does everything in her power to ruin everything if she doesn't get what she wants. I Love her but like after season 1 it was just horrible.
Yeah, a Noah Vs Courtney rivalry would have been great.
Courtney could have been the Anti-Noah Schaffrillas wished Justin was in the special episode.
I was thinking of writing a fic abt Court's development into a slightly nicer person ;) maybe I'll use this idea and credit u!
Noah's "The Anti-me" line was so perfectly delivered
I agree
@@noah2698 OH CRAP ITS YOU
I giggled when I heard it
@@noah2698 oh another me
@@noah2698 Noah?
Can we just talk about how Noah got eliminated in World Tour even though he and Owen did the fucking challenge?
ik i was watching that episode recently and i was so pissed
Ya that was so unfair. Would've been much fairer if Noah and Owen were the ones to accidentally catch Duncan and so were sent to elimination for a real reason instead of blatant bias.
The show did a lot of BS eliminations from what I remember of the first 3 seasons. Leshawna's elimination in TDI was still the worst one imo and I don't blame fans for throwing racial bias accusations towards the show writers for that.
@Leider Tears agreed. I don't think it was a racial thing, I just think it was bad writing
@Leider Tears Thanks for that. People are far too eager to play the race card. Yes, her elimination was indeed bs but that has nothing to do with her race. Lashawna was one of the best contestants and had a truly inspiring goal for the cash prize. They could have written her to be literally useless (like other characters later on. Particularly one "wizard" that just so happens to be black. Hmm...) but they didn't. Her elimination was bs because she stood such a good chance of winning. The fact she could have won because she had skills and was competitive but still friendly, was very likable, stood up to bullies, and had little patience for people's crap, and had noble goals is more so why I am sad she was eliminated. If it was a character no one liked or was one we are supposed to hate anyway, no one would care how bs the elimination was but when it is done to someone like Lashawna, her character and goals, not her skin, are what make those types of eliminations sting.
Everyone: "Come fly with us!"
Noah: *"Come die with us!"*
As soon as I heard that line, I immediately knew that Noah was gonna be my favorite
He’s literally Craig from South Park 😂
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@JACKSEPTICEYE'S DAD DESERVED IT LMFAO HAHAHA YEAH LAUGH
It's a pleasure and an honor and a must
Can we just talk about how Duncan got WAY too much screen time. He makes it too the final four TWICE AND gets some of the biggest plot lines in the seasons he doesn’t get to the final four. It’s ridiculous.
To be fair Heather also has this situation but I think it's because they're bigger antagonistic characters that the writiers probably enjoy writing for than some of the other characters. Personally I'd like harold or Lashawna or even izzy to have gotten further in the series but that's because I like some of the bigger personality characters like that :P
Hes a fan favorite, itd be stupid if they didnt give him screen time
His average placement was 4.25
My theory is that the writers were simping for Duncan so hard that they didn't want to write him out of the script until/unless they were forced to. Him being a fan favorite gave them more excuses too.
The power of being a fan favourite
Writers: Let's have Noah be important for the plot in World Tour.
Also Writers: Then let's eliminate him for no reason.
No reason? Watch the show again
@@vicentekokaly322 It might not literally be "no reason" but it's as close as you could probably get, considering Team Chris literally wins the challenge but Chris decides they don't and have to eliminate someone instead. I guess they didn't want to take any focus away from Heather and Alejandro's rivalry/romance so they couldn't have Noah actually do... Basically anything.
@@vicentekokaly322I watch it again. He got kicked off for no reason at all.
I just wish they used Leshawna or Eva more :(
Leshawna made it far in Island
@@Jackrabbit7 I thought you said Pearshawna and I wouldn’t have disagreed with you. Also she got shafted in World tour
@@joshroehl6098 your song sucks
No one likes it
Stop advertising
@@themilkman5004 Fixed the error, autocorrect messed it up mid type.
@@Jackrabbit7 but her getting vote out was so unfair. She should have been the top 2
Honestly I feel like Noah's random relationship with Emma was just FreshTV desperately trying to no homo Noah after finding out a lot of the fandom interpreted him to be gay.
Yep. I’ll just say it didn’t work on me.
There was really no reason to assume he was gay in the first place. Him kissing Cody was while he was asleep.
EXACTLY
I thought he was gay too. Hahaha.
Simple: He's Bi/Pan
What I loved about the Noah & Owen duo was their very like “yin-yang” vibe: Noah being intelligent and pessimistic while Owen is... not so intelligent but optimistic.
Noah is yin, and Owen is yang.
the shy but inteligent and the dumbass extrovert duo in school
As Noah said in World tour. "Come fly with us. Come die with us." He was being used for peak humor.
You gotta admit though, he was wrongfully eliminated in the London episode. Noah and Owen captured Jack the Ripper/Ezekiel which was the goal of the challenge. But team Amazon won because they found Duncan and brought him to Chris and THAT WAS NOT THE GOAL. Noah was robbed.
yes.. it would've made sense if he made it to the niagra falls episode for the comeback challenge
@@choiproductionsyt OK what if he was just eliminated in Greece instead. Make it so in London Chris says both teams did to well to eliminate anybody. Then in Greece, Alejandro convinces both Duncan and Tyler to vote Noah, saying he'll help them next time as long as they help him, meaning Noah is kicked out.
Tyler got robbed too
Really though they did exactly what he wanted to. Chris could have just not voted off either of them.
That episode was amazing but it made me mad
I remember telling my friends that I got the “uncensored” version of the heather scene and instead sent them a photo of Noah’s chin instead
Legendary
Based
Respectable
Great
Nearly spit out my drink that's hilarious
Schaffrilias made a Total Drama video, my life is complete.
Mine will never be complete until he makes the one hour Tamatoa analysis
@@pjcinema5600 yes
Ikr
nice claude icon
Claude fan🤢
Idk about anyone else but Trent and Gwen's absolute self destruction almost turned me off to season two in general. I can't for the life of me understand what the purpose of having Trent and Gwen pick the teams and be captains if they are eliminated back to back. Trent turning into a simp and Gwen getting eliminated right after due to guilt was a big waste of time and opportunity considering how far Gwen got in season 1.
Blame Cartoon Network for that.
I hate Gwen in everything season after ep 2 S2.
WHY
TF
DID THE WRITERS
EVER THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE GWUNCAN CANON.
COURTNEY DESERVED BETTER
@@ryla8195 Cartoon Network forced that to happen. I think to make Courtney and Duncan a real relationship, it would have to make Courtney a likeable character in Season 2 and 3.
@@ryla8195 seriously though the love triangle basically ruined everything with the three of them. Courtney was already not looking that great in season 2 but they completely killed her in season 3.
Trent was done _dirty as hell._ There were so, SO many other things they could have done with him (or even strained their relationship) without making him go crazy for absolutely no reason 💀
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Surprisingly, all 3 of those characters have the same voice actor.
Also how they’re the 3 contestants + Noah that returned for tdwt
They WHAT?!
Fun Fact: DJ is the only member of the original cast to never get voted off
In TDI, he lost the challenge and was automatically kicked off by default.
In TDA, he quit because the guilt of his alliance with Chef got the best of him
And in TDWT, he was the last member of his team and he lost the challenge.
This is officially my most like comment ever
Thanks
He's a cool dude~
soft boi
I love dj, he's cool
He would have got eliminated in the Japan episode of Harold didn’t quit. You can hear Chris say “The last barf bag goes to Har-“
Proof that DJ is the best TD character
Never thought I'd see Schaff talk about this one. Pleasant surprise!
The Heartbreak Kid 2007 Movie - Ben Stiller what movie name
Its totally insane-y
A surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one
I just can't believe that Noah,Ezekiel and Tyler are now cannon in Schaff Universe
He mentioned in a video about how he was watching it again
Can we get an entire video on how great and terrible Chris is? Just fantastic.
@Kim Taehyung aka Cloud Planet until revenge of the island and beyond...
He was normal, but insane in a reality-tv way. After World Tour, he wants the contestants dead.
@Mario Kart animations Faiyad Until revenge of the island and the others (excluding total dramarama and Ridonuculous Race and also correct me if I spelt it wrong)
Noah's stereotype in Total Drama Island was "The Schemer" but it was changed to "The High IQ" in Total Drama World Tour. Mark Thornton and Todd Kauffman have hinted in an interview that this was because Noah was apparently conceived as a somewhat villainous contestant early on.
Wasn’t he the “Know-it-all”
@@GachaLunXit was changed.
Never thought he would make a total drama Island vid 😳
Stolen comment
In just exited for this.
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 This isn’t the hardest thing to come up with.
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 who cares?! This is literally just a normal damn comment how the fuck is this stolen? You seriously can't be THIS stupid.
He made a total drama world tour reference in his dreamworks ranking
Noah is popular solely due to fan fiction. Fan fic writers love writing snarky characters and Noah is a one-liner machine. The actual writers didn’t care because every Total Drama character gets to be sarcastic, but Noah lodged his way into the fan’s heart with nothing but his great wit.
Who else would love a Schaffrillas special of The Secret Show?
There was a really dark fanfic called "Despair Island" where instead of everyone getting voted off the island in TDI, Chris just _murders_ them. Noah epically uses his brain in the awake-a-thon episode to find a "Life Idol" and gives it to Chris discretely, then spends the entire dodgeball challenge acting _intentionally_ as unhelpful as possible so everyone will vote him off and he can escape with his life. He's one of the five contestants to survive all the way through.
@@CJCroen1393 ooo, sounds kinda like danganronpa which I like that sounds interesting I’ll check it out
@@sergeantsnicker9657 I think it's possible that that was an inspiration, considering the title, but I haven't gotten confirmation.
I wrote a fan-fiction called “Total Drama Fan-Fiction Theater” that deconstructed Owen’s and Noah’s friendship, Noah even questions why he is friends with someone so different from him.
My list of missed potential in total drama
- Noah and Tyler development
- The season 4 cast not getting enough love and chances for development (especially Dawn and B)
- Everything about season 5
- A good spin-off instead of Dramarama like a ridiculous race 2 or anything else
I always thought of a second ridoncolous race with more of the original and second trilogy like Joey and mike and maybe heather and Alejandro Lindsay and Tyler that I think woulda been cool
@@coltkillergaming5685 I don't want to see Mike's face man
I honestly think that Tyler had good development in world tour. I wish he got more, but he almost made merge and was competent in challenges as well.
Tyler is a filler character
where the hell is "Ezekiel development?"
The "Owen is a mole" subplot didn't make me dislike Owen as a character (especially since I kept thinking he would come clean due to being Owen) but it actually INFURIATED me when Owen single-handedly ruined the development between Harold and Duncan!
They were almost friends and then he sabotaged it. That's when the subplot went from kind of dumb, but minor, to incredibly aggravating.
i thought i was the only one who got disappointed that the Duncan and Harold getting along plot got fucked like that.
@@nicoleflores2054 yeah, you would think that the two would attempt to put aside their differences after what happen in Season 1, maybe even Harold convincing Duncan that Courtney wasn't the complete saint she looked to be during the time she on Island and Action.
I thought Owen had a pretty good reason to take the job, too. His family was 500k in debt! It fits his character to try and help them out.
Owen robbed Harold's deserved million dollars and made Duncan even less likeable than before.
They didn't remain friends but Duncan still respected Harold and was proud of him for what he did. Watch the episode's exclusive clip.
Noah legit got more character development in the spin-offs than in the actual series.
Yes he did.
That’s what sucks about him. At least he got the 3rd season
Wich is sad
I mean he kinda got more likeable in World Tour
I hope you mean spin-off unless you're counting Dramarama
Come fly with us, CoMe DiE wItH Us.
Legitimately one of the best Noah quotes.
Noah and Tyler are definitely the most missed opportunities of the whole series, should have merged both instead of Owen and Duncan who contributed to basically nothing in world tour
It's not like Noah and Tyler contributed more during their stay, they actually did less than Owen and Duncan in World Tour. And I love all 4 of these characters
@@Robalexe yeah but to be honest, Duncan and Owen are way too fan favorite coming from the series's writing, which seeing Owen being vote off early (probably by sacrificing his time for the game) for Noah to get to the merge and Duncan as well for Tyler to get more screentime.
...they contributed to more than Noah and Tyler, you can say they were less interesting, but you can't say they contributed to nothing when the mid season was mostly about the love triangle
@8K T the main point still stays
Noah's my favourite character but i gotta say I think he was trash in season 1
He did nothing to help His Raichu team and he totally deserved to be eliminated
Thankfully he got better
Sierra making it to the TOP 4 in a season and Noah never even making a merge really made me question wtf they were thinking
Tbf if Sierra wasn’t there, Cody wouldn’t be either 💀
@@anerrorhasoccurred8727 He would, he was useful to his team at times and he wasn't a threat to anyone, nor had beef with anyone, like beth
@@princibles sierra was really the only one who stood up for cody though, so if he was ever thought of getting voted off, she would intervene
@@princibles yeaa team Amazon was like a rlly crazy team but like the couldn’t have won the first couple of challenges without Cody and sierra since Courtney, Gwen and heather just fought all the time
I mean honestly, Sierra is a super human at this point
I freaking loved Noah in that one loser episode when he said to Courtney: "You lost. You're here. Get over it." Man Courtney was annoying.
Wait which one
@Kelly Betita until RR that is
And I the only who loves Courtney?
@@jackielester6473 I love Courtney, I'm just sad of how her character development ended up
@@kaec8658 yea same, I loved her relationship with Duncan right before she got eliminated and her character just kind of got more possessive and jealous over Duncan and ruined her character
“Is there anything this character can’t do?”
Win
You monster!
@ALYSON MATSON where is this
Or make it to the merge
bruh
i'm in pain
Characters that got better as the series progressed:
Justin, Noah, Lindsay, Heather.
Characters that got worse over time:
Literally everyone else.
Heather went to shit in No One Eggspects The Spanish Opposition (TDAS) and Lindsay got even dumber in All Stars
Harold got better
@@WarCrimeGaming true
uhm sir are we forgetting Cody-
Owen was fine throughout
Noah's line in the first song of TD: World Tour made me laugh harder than most of the jokes. Just the dead pan "Come die with us" is just so perfect.
Funny Crab man talks about Total Drama
"A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one."
HELP MY!!! My muscles are too big! I am a big tall man and my muscles are even BIGGER! I use them to get views but they HURT so much!!! Because they are heavy. Do you have any advice, dear dom
We need a Total Drama character ranking from you Schaf, now
Hell yea
I need to see that, recently watched all seasons and made a rankings myself and I'd love to compare mine to his. Really interested to see his opinion on controversial characters like Courtney, Mike and more.
Agree
Now
here's the thing though, some of the characters devolve so terribly as the seasons progress. Like, Courtney in S1 is incredible, but by the end she's unbearable.
Honestly Noah really should have won the aftermath special competition and gone back to the show. If he got paired with Owen in the Niagara episode he would have had some great comedy moments. He probably would have talked about how ridiculous a lot of that challenge is. Just imagine his line deliver if he was like fine I'll be in the wedding the dress. He would come to the conclusion that it would be easier for Owen to carry him instead of vise versa
I agree w the noah and owen being the "married couple" in that one WT challenge, I think that'd make a lot more sense for bonding purposes since he is owen's partner in RR
Noah and Courtney were also into Student Government stuff back at their hometowns. While Courtney struggled for support Noah was his schools Student body President.
This, people need to watch the audition tapes for the characters, they reveal a lot about the characters
Apparently on his wiki page, he managed to get a job at AGE 6. Not sure how, but he does.
@@doomer3257 so, he was born with a big brain??
@@nicoleflores2054 Wouldn't be surprised if he did. He's one of the smartest people in the show, with an IQ of 180, just only slightly behind Izzy.
@@doomer3257 huh, interesting
Gonna be honest, Noah and Owen's friendship was a delightful surprise in World Tour and I think it met its full potential in Redonculous Race. They have a great dynamic of someone who is small, snarky, and intelligent paired with someone who is large, kind-hearted, and a tad bit dim-witted. It was a ton of fun to watch, and I genuinely hope they make a return in the next seasons that are coming soon.
Same
The main thing I remember from my Total Drama days was the Gwen/Duncan versus Courtney/Duncan shippers. The most big-brained move I made was shipping Gwen and Courtney together instead 😌
As much as I dislike Gwourtney, I must admit that it's better than Gwuncan.
still sad how broken courtney and gwen's dynamic is now
they all suck. duncney came out of nowhere, as fun as it was. gwuncan was some stupidass love triangle which messed up world tour, and gwourtney's dynamic is ruined. this is noco levels of bad ships, especially gwuncan
@@nicoleflores2054 yea they were like friends for 3 episodes on all stars and then I guess they couldn’t trust eachother or smth 💀
YOU GET IT
cody is literally goated. funny, has character growth, almost a hero at times. totally underrated.
Yeah, he's awesome
I think the word you mean is under used and he wasn’t that under used anyway. He is actually extremely overrated as he has a huge fan base considering his small amount of screen time. Underrated means a character contributed much and is a likeable character with a relatively small fan base, so please don’t word what you say wrong about an overrated character.
@@PETSEMATARYTWO he's pretty boring imo, also nice toxicity levels there, you must be nuclear waste.
Best character in WT confirmed
@@sevenoxia7199 I wouldn't say Cody has a small amount of screen time considering his contributes in World Tour.
Shaffrillas talking about total drama island, a dream came true
IKR
I think Noah shouting "Those aren't even words!" at Tyler is still the funniest scene in Total Drama history. Or at least to me.
220 likes. No comments. Wot.
I figured Justin was the anti Noah because of Justin’s ability to work with and gather others around him while Noah was less of a team player.
They are the anti's of each other. Noah's smart and Justin's stupid, Noah's weak and Justin's buff, Justin's hot and Noah's not. They still have a lot of similarities, they're both lazy and egotistical.
and justin wasn't smart but noah is
6:57 Apparently TvTropes mentions that Noah was actually supposed to form an alliance with Heather in the first half, with his job being to spy on the boys for her, and Heather would have eliminated him in the 15th episode of the season. It was dropped because the writers wanted Heather's alliance to be all girls, hence Noah's early elimination as well as Eva's sudden return in the 15th episode. So, you were right!
Where do they mention that?
@@ZekeorSomething trivia page for the series
@@captaincommando5072 Thanks
this alliance would be the end of the world, they’d be way too powerful
Oh come on that would been way cooler curse gender
He was always my favorite character, too bad they literally NEVER used him
Thankfully they used him more in the later seasons
Noah got a girlfriend in Emma
i sadly only liked him on world tour, he was witty without being annoying like in season 1
I really liked how they used him more in ridonculous race, but yeah, I would like to see more of him in the earlier seasons
Don't worry! Based on the last conversation Noah had with Owen, he's going to return for the next season(s)! I have hope
Ah, the Justin-Noah rivalry.... a completely wasted plotline that could have been fixed had Noah competed in Total Drama Action.
Ikr
I think there's a whole fanfiction series dedicated to giving Noah a literal second chance as he's sent back in time with all his memories to try and change his fate. He makes it to the final four in the first season. Don't know about the rest, I forgot to read it.
………..Title?
Don’t be shy give us the title
ITS BEEN A YEAR WHATS THE TITLE.
Noah is the proof that not all comedic relieve character have to be fat or dumb.
Schaffrilas: Noah is the most Wasted Total Drama Character ever
Me: *Ezekiel gets eliminated twice 1st and then turns into a Wild Monster*
Yeah but honestly Zeke didn't have much personality besides being a homeschool prairie person, the whole monster angle at least kept him relevant in my opinion
To be wasted he needs to actually have something to offer first
@@williampilling6576 we didn't know much of his personality to start with you can find cool facts about him in the wiki but other than that he was wasted potential him and Noah
@@iexisted583 interesting, I'll try and take a look at that! To me it felt like Zeke was just a throwaway character lol
@@Shoe26 According to his bio, Ezekiel can speak 8 languages and has won multiple spelling bee contests.
Do you know that Noah was originally planned to be an Heather alliance but they had to cut him out of the alliance because they wanted an all girl alliance
Omg that would've been LEGENDARY
Bruh that would’ve been great
I think I heard from a comment that originally the merge was going to consist of 15 people, the episode would be basic straining, and Noah would be eliminated there. Not sure how they got 15 people because currently there were 14 people, I guess the eliminations were just different. I don't have a way to confirm it, but I heard it off a comment.
his title actually couldve made sense then.. if he was in the alliance and he couldve just betrayed them then bam, the schemer title woulve made sense
It could work if he's in the new season if you made Kitty and Emma related to heather
It's funny how you talk about how useless Katie and Sadie are. I always wanted a plot line with them, not necessarily splitting up but making new friends/becoming less dependent on each other. Katie's bio mentions her sewing and "thinking with her heart", while Sadie's says she thinks with her head. They have differences, and I feel like there could have been more to them.
For people wondering why people think Noah is gay, it’s because he is queer-coded. Queer-coded means that the character is never explicitly said to be gay, but the audience reads them to be.
TD is filled with stereotypes, and Noah fits this by being snarky, self-centered, and borderline dramatic. Noah also does not have any traditional masculine traits. He doesn’t like sports or physical activity. When he does run in TDDDDI, even Eva says he “runs like a girl” because he ran with his hands at his sides.
Another aspect is it seems like Noah has some internalized homophobia with how adamant he is when denying the sleeping ear kiss. He is embraced about it because he was asleep. People don’t say the kiss shows Noah is gay. It’s how he denied it. Plus, people use the kiss to show parallels to other hetero couples sleeping cuddled up together. The best example is Courtney and Duncan waking up and immediately blaming the other for unconsciously cuddling. Not only did Noah cuddle with Cody in the main series but again in the celebrity manhunt special outside of the bus.
There are other jokes in the series that comment on Noah’s sexuality. The main one is with Owen when trying to convince DJ to join an alliance. Noah says asking people into an alliance is a lot like asking someone on a date. Owen then proceeds to tell DJ that Noah is attracted to him.
For a more detailed explanation, look up “Noah is gay coded” by tolstoynoah on the amino apps total drama section.
I knew him getting a girlfriend didn't feel right/felt forced for some reason
@@ambarcastaneda4763totally agree with that statement, I also felt it forced
@@ambarcastaneda4763 i completely agree, and it also completely ruined his character to “i simped and i lost 😭😭😭😭😭😭”
@@shadowedsorrowsnot really he still made jokes lmao.
@@mariabaker8233all those gay coded scenes are practically jokes lmao
I think Noah is actually perfectly written, he's too smart to actually put some effort.
I mean, he’s just kinda lazy( the character in canon, not his writing). There are other smart individuals in the series that actually care about the game and put effort in, and they make great characters. I am not sure I’m a fan of this “I’m too smart to care and put effort in” mentality that he carries, although he gets better with time. That being said, he’s hysterical so of course I love him.
@@epicgamer8326 i am probably projecting on this since Noah is my favorite character and i identifie to him a lot but here's my take on his behavior :
1- people like Noah don't know how to make efforts for a simple reason : they never hade to, every basic knowledges was learned very fast ,in Noah's case his whole life up to highschool has been one sweet ride on his mental capacity's ,it is likely that he never hade to take more than an hour of his day to do his homeworks or learn his lessons, resulting in a total lack of work etic
2- as kids people like Noah are praised all the time for being " gifted " ,in his case again it seem that it keep going in highschool, imagine the superiority complex you would get if everyone you knew keep telling you how much smarter and more mature you are then everyone else, it's the kind of complex that only the hard punch of your first big failure will shatter ( for Noah, his elimination in TDI)
3-being great at everything for so long make it harder deal with failure than it should be, people like this are often perfectionnists but it can result in a more strange behavior, the personne will never go 100% in anything and sometime they don't even try ( it obvioulsy resulte in constant failure anytime something is slightly harder) not trying come from the obvious " if i don't do it i can't fail at it " and never giving your all come from " i failed but it wasn't the best i can do so it's not that am not good enought " both are ways reasure themself about their own capacitys (basiclly you "purposly " fail so you never feel like a failure ,make sense right ?)
In conclusion to me Noah don't act the way he does because he think he is " too smart " but rather because of a mixe of the three things i listed above that are common traits you can find in people with high potentiel
Then again i may be saying massive BS because of my need to identify to Noah but it just really seem to fit with the way he refuse to play the dodgeball game ( " if i don't do it i can't fail at it ") and with his personality type in general
Here was my massive Noah rant because im obssed with him thank you for reading and have a good day (also im french so i don't know if you understand any of what i said)
World Tour says hi
@@epicgamer8326
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@@khalakrean6890 is English your first language?
Dude is literally known as “the High I.Q.” and yet later seasons just characterize him as a generic sarcastic snarker because his debut episode happened to feature some snide remarks
that's what im saying. Ridonculous race might have gave him development but it lowkey ruined his character. In tdwt he could've had a storyline with Alejandro since he was one of the two to only catch on to him. That would make him look more high IQ.
you know that could mean he's just a smartass, right?
@@floricel_112 Nah, he’d be known as the “Smart Alec” if that were the case
That tends to happen with some characters. Ezekiel is stated to be able to speak 8 languages but the show portrays him like an incompetent idiot.
@@albedo5455 The woes of flanderization
I actually don’t think Noah is the most wasted character but Eva. It’s the person that got the least scenes in all 3 seasons. She could have been a great character but she didn’t even have the chance. She got a few scenes in the aftermaths and the special episodes but fr that’s it. I would have loved to saw her character development and a different side of her. The only impression we got was a strong angry woman. If they ever bring back the original cast let Eva be on the season.😊
noah had so much potential. he could’ve been, like, heather-type villain. world tour is one of my favs for putting noah back in & ridonculous race noah was good-but world tour was 10 times better.
facts, though rr did more development about Noah and Owen's friendship, which I'll take that.
i just wish he was funnier
If I gotta be honest, Noah would be a terrible villain. Noah is the most lazy person on reality television, he has little to no interest in even being alive. At best, Noah can be a villains worst nightmare because of Noah's high common sense level.
Fun fact: Clé Bennett, the guy who voices Chef Hatchet, currently plays Lemar “Battlestar” Hoskins in Falcon and the Winter Soldier on Disney+
*GAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP*
:O
sh00k
Op said what?
That's awesome
Whoa
I legit forgot how wasted Noah was because of how loved he is by a fair chunk of the fandom.
Well damn, time for some education.
@JACKSEPTICEYE'S DAD DESERVED IT LMFAO you have a sick sense of humor
@JACKSEPTICEYE'S DAD DESERVED IT LMFAO that wasn't funny at all, please seek therapy
@JACKSEPTICEYE'S DAD DESERVED IT LMFAO I’m gonna be honest. I laughed
I have no idea what this shouty man in the comments is all about, but I'll take y'all's word for it and boo him appropriately.
@JACKSEPTICEYE'S DAD DESERVED IT LMFAO this have nothing to do with my comment :( please stop!!!
I just think that Noah should’ve survived longer in world tour. Make the ripper challenge non-elimination, have duncan eliminated in Greece as he’d already been in final 4 twice, make Area 51 non elimination and have the last 2 pre-merge rounds go by as normal. Don’t have Blainely join, so merge:
Owen
Heather
Alejandro
Noah
Tyler
Courtney
Sierra
Cody
Have Owen get voted out first, then Courtney in china and Tyler in capture Ezekiel. Then have Noah go at 5th place. That’s what I wish happened, I wish him and Tyler got at least merge in tour.
Noah is a slightly happier squidward
Yep
The weirdest part of the show for me was how much screen time went to the Gwen/Duncan/Courtney love triangle just to not at all dissect how abusive they kind of both were towards him. Especially in all star. What was the point???? Why even focus on it if you’re not going to have it end in any satisfying way. Literally just Duncan getting endlessly fucked with and then going to jail.
Yep. Love how we ended up losing out on Gwen and Courtney’s friendship, Gwen and Duncan’s friendship, and the pure-er days of Courtney and Duncan as a couple just for all three to now be enemies and with Duncan in jail...
@@TDIfan10 At the very least Gwen befriended Zoey, Cameron and probably Mike as well I guess
@@husariuspl117 lmao I’m really not a fan of those characters at all, so that doesn’t make me happy in the slightest
you guys are delusional, the love triangle was the peak of the series
@@bilis2866 I’m not against the love triangle, I thought it was interesting, I just think Duncan got really badly fucked over at all times by both of them and then got thrown in jail with the overall tone of “he got what he deserved.” It was just weirdly mean spirited to him.
His friendship with Izzy and Eva really needed more focus.
Which kinda makes me wish Eva was in World Tour
if eva was in action and was in trents team then she would help noah fight for control
@@humanzombieninja Like a bodyguard, which would've been awesome
just imagine if the friendship happened in S1 and they had an alliance
@@logantharp6066 I imagine if that was the case Noah and Eva's alliance would be just plain business with each other, but because of Owen, they feel bad for manipulating him and decided to actually be friends. Then when Heather gets Eva eliminated Noah gets suspicious and that's what starts their rivalry
One thing I can’t believe is that you never mentioned is that in the first episode when Noah is introduced he says that he has deathly allergies but since it never comes up again I think they gave the allergies to Cody in the third season
Yeah I think they forgot they wrote it 😭
I wish there were more characters like Noah in cartoon shows.
There's something that I like about a sarcastic smartass who has his/her character developed more throughout the series.
Idk if I’m tripping but is ur pfp from that scraped mother 64 game
@@bestbirdley2674 It is.
As someone who literally just started rewatching the first season a few hours ago, this was a nice surprise.
same 😅
Yeah. Read some fanfic a week ago, since I remembered how much I used to like it when I was younger. Then this shit pops out of nowhere.
@@FloweryOnCrack yea i just started rewatching it on netflix
@@alexverdana2435 Yeah, I really like the way how it parodies most last man standing like Survivor and the art-style, definitely cruel, represents the tone it was going for. It's nothing groundbreaking, but was a lot of fun.
@@narson03 i agree about the art style, its very cool :D
I thought the Ridonculous Race characterized him pretty well. Sure most of his interactions were wooing over Emma, but I liked him what they did with him in the later seasons. Noah was great in moderation. Too much of him might’ve ruined his character
eh, I think he was pretty weak in that season outside of his relationship with Emma, but it could've been worse, looking at all stars.
His best line was definetely in world tour when he was mocking Sierra that had me dying.
Man, I'm glad that TD is still relevant
same here
I’m glad you mentioned how good the final 4 was in World Tour. Those final episodes of World Tour is where Total Drama peaked.
world tour in general was the peak
Absolutely
I kinda feel like the season peaked in every episode until Duncan rejoined. Mostly cause Team Chris is really hot had the best interactions in the show.
fr
“Is there anything he (Noah) can’t do?”
Yeah... win
sadly
this comment sounds like noah himself
...or make it to the merge. poor guy.
Or do literally anything physical.
fr 😔
I agree almost entirely in the rewrite, but would change Noah's implementation in Season 1 slightly. I don't think that Noah should get Owen into an alliance in the first season, because it ruins the idea that Owen goofed his way into the final two and winning the game, and putting Owen in an alliance will make him seem too similar to Lindsay. Instead, after eliminating Katie and Sadie (move the camping episode to the second challenge, then vote Sadie off in the dodge ball game because she's too sad to compete), Noah tries to follow Heather's lead and form his own alliance. The problem is, every person he courts ends up getting eliminated.Specifically, he tries to get Izzy and Cody into an alliance but they both leave the game in the exact same episode. By this point, Heather realizes what he's trying (and failing) to do and votes him off relatively early in the same episode that Sadie originally got voted off, because he's the only other person using strategy in the game. This way, Noah doesn't make it to the merge in season 1 but still plays a greater role overall and learns from his mistakes to make it further in Schaffrillas's proposed Action and World Tour timelines.
Noah is a character I felt was wasted. He is one of three characters who IQ is confirmed(the other being izzy and Alejandro) all three being around the 180-190 range. Which is very impressive, and all three shown to be very intelligent(Noah seeing through Alejandro's facade) But I feel he had SO much potential, I mean he was called the Schemer.
Like imagine him doing something akin to Heather, but more passive. Playing the role of an innocent nerd. Who goes unnoticed but knows when to strike. It wouldve been great to see tbh.
Im glad later seasons saw his potential, but he was wasted on the first season.
I feel if the writers focused on him he could be a perfect mix of Courtney's and Heather's best traits.
Organized and intelligent but scheming and manipulative.
The Schemer needs his time to shine.
The 6Teen/Stoked/Total Drama universe was always fun to watch as a kid. Damn those were the days
@Connor Dean You should totally watch 6Teen. It’s super good and has a good amount of adult jokes and themes, especially early on in the series
@Connor Dean you can watch it here in youtube
Tasty content
Sonic the hedgehog
*tasty.*
I read this as trashy content and was tempted to find you and make sure your pillow was never cool. Just hot. Forever. Then I realized it said tasty
@LegoGuy87 Watch my Total Drama: ua-cam.com/video/q73iS6EThHk/v-deo.html
13:13
me realizing that means blainerific will be cut from the score!:
*Panic*
Me realizing it will be replaced by Noahriffic:
*Happy*
A soul, for a soul...
Noah could easily carry a whole season with his one-liners.
"The most wasted potential character is noah"
Dawn: hold my beer
bro Dawn was like my....forth favorite character in Revenge of the island
@@floricel_112 *got voted out because of Scott accusing her for stealing everyone’s stuff*
Dawn had her chances. She got out before she could get annoying. Imagine her with more screentime. It would be a Dakota problem all over again.
More like, hold my essential oils.
@Griffin Ellis Her first time being eliminated helped established Heather as a threat, so it works perfectly in a narrative standpoint. The most they could really do with her character is give her team the dilemma of deciding whether her athletic prowess is worth putting up with her antics. Which would have gotten old fast.
Yes. The nerve of the show to vote him out third and write him out of the second season. He’s literally one of the funniest characters in the whole series.
I think they've learned their lesson now though
It's real sad to know that one of the worst Total Drama characters, Sugar, got much more screen time than Noah
Because everyone at Fresh TV is an asshole who hates good writing.
@@poke_onix9235 The ones at Fresh TV will NEVER learn their lesson.
@@elmasterdezoologia6641 they did good with him in ridonculus race, and given the last words of Owen and Noah, he's basically confirmed for the next season(s). So yeah, I'm hopeful
I was like “antagonist Noah?? I don’t like the sound of that, I always liked how despite his sarcasm he’s generally a good guy and only sometimes is he unnecessarily rude” but I kept watching and yes… he knows it’s a reality tv show so he tries to do manipulative stuff to get far but ends up liking people? It would also be a great way to develop his character instead of “he becomes nicer because Emma is pretty” like no offense to the shippers or people who liked that plot line but that barely makes sense…
ANYWAYS I would TOTALLY read this rewrite if someone wrote it lol. Heck, I would even write it myself if I had the energy (and mental stability to rewatch season one, that season literally traumatized me why was it so disturbing at times 😭) (before anyone judges too hard for that, I was 6, and yes I had/have anxiety lol. Still loved the show back then)
"Noah in a wedding dress"
- Schaffrillas, 2021
Ok now we need a ranking of the songs and characters
Thank you for siding with me on that abysmal Total Drama All Stars. It's like they forgot how to write characters and completely train wrecked Duncan, Gwen, Courtney and basically everyone except for Zoey and Mike
just to set up everything for the final episode, i assume?
Yeah All-Star will always be my least favorite season. Pahkitew Island might have had mostly forgettable cast but at least it did not ruin/flanderize previously amazing characters like All-stars did
Sundae Muddy Sundae was a torture episode for Courtney and the entire series
I liked it, I enjoyed how the old characters had kinda served their purpose, as well as the fact that finally Chris was beginning to have to pay for his crimes (with everything being irradiated and the EPA going after him).
They completely neutered Scott’s character too. It’s like everyone became stupider for the sake of the Mal plot.
as someone who gets forced to see the baby spin-off due to a lil brother, he barely gets scenes or lines, so don't worry about it
is it bad?
@@choiproductionsyt I watched some of it because I got bored. It's not really that good but it's generally pretty harmless. I did like Cody in it tho he just gets abused the entire time tho.
@@emoskullfire9823 reminds me of r/stopcodyabuse lol
Noah leads the whole team in the London challenge and finds the ripper only to get eliminated? I wanted to jump off of a cliff at the end of that episode
He was legitimately the most interesting and different character on the show and they used him solely for gay coded jokes smh.
Who 5 yo me aspired to be: Duncan
Who 17 yo me became: Noah
I became Beth 😭
I'm a mix of noah and Eva 🤝🤝
*TOTAL DRAMA 2023 SPOILERS*
Damn, it feels like the Total Drama writers watched this video and were like
"Hey, why don't we take this idea and turn it into a completely different character?"
And that's how MK was born /s
someone needs to write this fanfic
and thats NEVER something i say unironically
Some really said "he has to make a ranking of all world tour songs" i thought he was talking about trolls 💀💀😭
LMAO
Why not both?
Oddly specific video
Indeed, weasel daddy
beasel watches
You are the big gae
Hey daddy diesel how’s it going
Beasel Watches!
"considering buying myself a life but having trouble deciding because they're all such a major improvement"
Harold and Lindsey should've been in the final four.
Seriously, what were Owen and Beth doing there?
Lindsay would have made a better finalist for TDA than Beth
@@williamhanna9718 Harold would also be a better finalist in Action than Duncan, who barely did anything that important in that season.
beth needed to leave 💀
@@galegopaulista4564 It would have been perfect if Harold and Duncan were in the finale.
Fuck knows, TDA had such a good lineup of characters since the merge and then just eliminated them one by one
Justin, Lindsay and Harold leaving back to back to back was a gut punch