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  • @Ullish1989
    @Ullish1989 10 місяців тому +3

    0:49 Been training Jiu Jitsu for years and returning to Archery after about 20 years since some high school Archery
    Your explanation makes so much sense

  • @davidlee4576
    @davidlee4576 4 роки тому +26

    Picking up my first bow today! These videos are fantastic so I know what I’m looking for and not creating bad habits.

  • @flyfish6473
    @flyfish6473 4 роки тому +6

    Your explanation of back tension is by FAR the best I have heard. I went from spraying a target to grouping in the 8 ring and better. I still have much to work on, but I can't believe how quickly your explanation has helped me. Thanks!

  • @merrillbartle4174
    @merrillbartle4174 Рік тому

    I started shooting Trad. bows 3 months ago, I shoot vvery day 100/200 arrows or more. I’ve been working on getting the windage out of the picture so all I need is the right elevation for what ever distance I am. Your tip on bringing the arrow across your body to line up is amazing. I tryed it with 2 different bows ( I have 12 ) and I am so Stoked… it works like a charm, 4 or 5 arrows out of 6 at 20 yards in a 6” circle. This was the best Tip ever, thanks Clay.

  • @jake4194
    @jake4194 3 роки тому +3

    Awesome stuff, had some of my most consistent shooting today after watching this. Keeping the bow arm straight really is a huge deal!

  • @denniswells9340
    @denniswells9340 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks mate. Great simple and easy to understand explanation. I think it was Einstein that said ‘if you can’t explain something simply, you don’t understand it’. Keep up the good work.

  • @levischenk2668
    @levischenk2668 3 роки тому +1

    I just wanted to say thank you for this series of videos. I've killed four deer and tons of small game with traditional gear, but my shooting has always felt haphazard. My boss recommended your videos a couple of years ago. With a lot of serious practice things have finally come together. This morning I took my bow out and after a couple of crappy shots, dropped around 30 arrows into the vitals on my deer target from 10 to 25 yards. I've never had this level of confidence before!

  • @ek5419
    @ek5419 Рік тому +1

    Loved seeing those birds flying by the wood pile when you were shooting around the 11:00 minute mark in slow motion.

  • @jameswilliams6254
    @jameswilliams6254 4 роки тому +1

    I really enjoyed this video. I was thinking of getting a compound bow, but there is just something that keeps me from doing so. I have a longbow with fiberglass limbs with the belly made from cherry wood that came from my great-grandfather's bedpost. My late father made this bow for me thirty-five years ago. It is one of my prized possessions. Thanks again for the video!

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому

      Great stuff!

    • @matalimanaito6341
      @matalimanaito6341 4 роки тому +1

      i wish i'd knowledge for care / maintenance of bows b4 i pulled and snapped my late dad's 55# Bear vintage recurve that was stored indoors . Such a bad feeling . my old 35# Bear recurve stored in two different vehicles 15+years in Hawaii's hot sun over sun visors does still shoots great. take care of your treasure Aloha

  • @TylerDeaverMusic
    @TylerDeaverMusic 2 роки тому

    I appreciate all the great vids Clay! My recurve shooting has gotten so much better from your videos. Thanks man 🤘

  • @jamesjgill
    @jamesjgill 4 роки тому +1

    I am a classically trained olympic recurve shooter. I competed at my national championships at least 7 times. I was trained by high level archers from the US team and from a coach France's national team. I can say your understanding of technique is quite good.

  • @hutchieboy242
    @hutchieboy242 2 роки тому +3

    Very informative, technical and clear. Did not expect this kind of clarity from a guy who seems at home in the bushes. However, your reference to Arnie Moe punctuated everything. Will continue to follow as often as I can.

  • @davidj6755
    @davidj6755 2 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @ukaulamontagne1813
    @ukaulamontagne1813 4 роки тому

    Man, I was thinking that I was the only one to do that! You'r the only one to explaine the bow shoulder properly i think.
    This is exactly the feeling that I got, a feeling of letoff

  • @TheTruthTeller99
    @TheTruthTeller99 4 роки тому

    Cannot stress how much you have helped me - and inspired me to take up traditional archery

  • @beccanlevisalaska
    @beccanlevisalaska 2 роки тому

    Picked up my first recurve bow a few days ago and these videos are so helpful! Thank you for sharing.

  • @AnonYmous-ii4tc
    @AnonYmous-ii4tc 3 роки тому +1

    Another great video Clay. Thanks. I think one reason new people have difficulty understanding back tension is that they have to get used to all of the other “feelings” and muscles going on to a new archer. I know how different a bow feels to me now from two years ago, or even after several months and of not shooting.

  • @sallison396
    @sallison396 Рік тому

    I went from hitting anywhere on a 4ft target at 20yds, to having an actual group at 30. Great videos man

  • @bowman321123
    @bowman321123 4 роки тому +4

    Great series, keep up the basics, that is my shortfall.

  • @jasongreywolfleigh
    @jasongreywolfleigh 4 роки тому

    Thankz Clay. You’re a fine instructor; clear, concise and cinematic. I’m a late bloomer at 70 who apparently might be a single eyed aimer with intuitive release. (Some shots seem to bullseye on their own)? Hope I got all that correct. I’ve returned to traditional archery 🏹 to try to recover a boyhood desire to become a master archer. You Sir, are helping to make that possible. I’m starting to view all your training films! Thankz again, and excellent work. JGL

  • @skyfox9768
    @skyfox9768 3 роки тому

    Thank you, this is a wonderfully made explanation video. One of the best on the web!

  • @MizManGuM
    @MizManGuM 4 роки тому +1

    On Feb 1, 2020 I shot a traditional bow for the first time. I’ve watched many different videos to learn about form. I subscribe to your channel due to your eloquence, humility, & depth of knowledge. Thank you for good information! I’d really like to hear about advice for women shooters. Both my elbow and wrist are bruised after shooting, and so I wear an extra-long arm guard. How can I work to avoid the slap? Also, I studied the steps for Olympic Archery and wonder how your “steps” compare. Welcome back to the Gem State!

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Bekki, regarding the wrist slap, first check your brace height. If it's too low, that will cause it. Also, check out the previous video on bow hand position. I'd imagine you're rolling your palm too far into the bow. If you lightly grip the bow with your bow hand knuckles coming off the bow at about a 45 deg angle, it'll help rotate your forearm out of the way of the string.

  • @InitHello
    @InitHello 2 роки тому

    Got my second bow a few days ago, a 50 pound 62" recurve. Lobbed one arrow so far, love it.

  • @christopherbarker5016
    @christopherbarker5016 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for engaging content, as usual deeply understood and well delivered. This is some of the best archery content.
    BTW, one vertex, two vertices!
    Goes for that shirt you’re wearing, too: one vortex, two vortices!
    Thanks for great learning and some of the best explanations around.

  • @henningradasewski6172
    @henningradasewski6172 4 роки тому

    As always, straight to the point, visual and informative. Thanks for sharing this man

  • @bjeick0861
    @bjeick0861 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. As a jiu jitsu and archery guy I really liked that analogy. I went from compound to traditional recently. Biggest frustration I have is hitting the tip of my nose with the string.

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому

      I know several top shooters that have that issue. But they shoot great.

  • @Bowfella
    @Bowfella 4 роки тому +1

    The best draw I found with the least movement that maximized strength was a "Downwards" draw. Essentially it's:
    1. Pointing your bow upwards (not too much, like 20-30 degrees)
    2. Making a 90 degree angle with your drawing arm and maintaining it.
    3. Lowering your lead arm (while maintaining a 90deg angle on draw arm)
    4. The instant your lead arm is lowered, draw the rest of the way with your draw arm to anchor.
    I found that I was getting fatigued fast and I couldn't stop my lead shoulder from collapsing. Then I tried the downward draw and I felt like I had 10lbs shaved off my draw weight. It makes sense too, your largest back muscles (lats) are designed for more of a downwards pull (like a pullup) and drawing downwards allows this activation.

  • @Luke-lg1cc
    @Luke-lg1cc 2 роки тому

    Clay, you rule.
    I started watching your videos for selfbow tips, then I later find out about Alone (hadn't watched season 8) and now you're talking about Jiu-jitsu
    Might be one of my new favourite people on UA-cam!
    Sucks that we can't hunt much in the UK

  • @BeckumOutdoors
    @BeckumOutdoors 4 роки тому

    Clay I have been watching your channel for awhile. Good information as related to hunters. You talk from personal experience which is the best platform. Traditional or primitive. Keep the videos coming. Learning is life long.

  • @sixstringbayonet8808
    @sixstringbayonet8808 3 роки тому

    Picked up my first recurve today and I'm learning as much as I can from your videos, they're very informative. I also practice Jiu Jitsu :)
    Thanks for the help.

  • @riccoratzo
    @riccoratzo 3 роки тому

    3:28
    Thats what i was looking for. Thank you!

  • @devinloveridge6805
    @devinloveridge6805 3 роки тому

    Great video, very concise, I can tell you're a great jiujitsoka OSS!

  • @Wingman115
    @Wingman115 4 роки тому

    Great info and instruction Clay. You are spot on with alignment and follow through.

  • @yugen
    @yugen 4 роки тому +2

    I THOUGHT i saw you doing a Kimura on your bow in another video! I began training BJJ/MMA in 2004 and got my instructor's cert in 2007 from the president of SBG. I began making primitive style bows around 2011. I imagine the cross section of people who train BJJ and make primitive or traditional style bows is fairly low. Glad I found your channel!

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому

      Thanks Dallas, gotta get that technique practice in when you can!

  • @thomasduffy3625
    @thomasduffy3625 4 роки тому

    Thanks Clay. The tip of where to locate the back tension was a constant question. Perfectly explained. Your pragmatic yet precise style of describing aspect of archery suits my learning. Cheers,

  • @틱타알릭-b3x
    @틱타알릭-b3x 3 роки тому

    thx for the great informative video. it was really helpful to understand biomechanics of archery forms, even for an archer like me who uses thumb draw.

  • @scottsanders9090
    @scottsanders9090 4 роки тому

    Outstanding instruction and excellent delivery...thank you

  • @abidmasrul1901
    @abidmasrul1901 3 роки тому

    Thanks for your clear explanation 💪🏻

  • @12ernie
    @12ernie 3 роки тому

    Great videos! They are really helping me!

  • @nickyslicky
    @nickyslicky Рік тому

    Thanks for always making awesome content brother. My bowhunting skills have increased ever since I first saw you on Alone. Merry Christmas and happy hunting you animal

  • @heathsanders6382
    @heathsanders6382 4 роки тому

    Great video Mr Clay! My problem has always been low elbow on my release arm. If I’m shooting bad that’s usually it!

  • @youriricher1123
    @youriricher1123 2 роки тому

    Really helpful! Amazing!

  • @shawnhellen6565
    @shawnhellen6565 4 роки тому

    Thank you I am going to video my form this afternoon. I know I have some of these very flaws you mention.

  • @offthearrowshelf
    @offthearrowshelf 4 роки тому +1

    Just wanted to say thanks for sharing this and I hope you keep them coming. As a coach I spend a lot of time working with field archers on correct body alignment, which you discuss here.
    I would very much like to hear your thoughts on the mental side too as I've written several articles on Target Panic or as I call it shot anxiety based on personal experience and helping others. Thanks again

  • @yannickferre7545
    @yannickferre7545 3 роки тому

    Great video.I m french and sometimes it s a little hard for me to anderstand every words, but clay' s video still the best help to progress, to anderstand technics points..thanks

    • @smat2899
      @smat2899 2 роки тому

      Essayez avec les sous titres et la traduction

  • @chadandveronika
    @chadandveronika 4 роки тому

    Dude, I really enjoy your content and delivery. Thank you

  • @velja56ila
    @velja56ila Рік тому

    Thank you man, this helped a lot!

  • @outdoorsman9384
    @outdoorsman9384 4 роки тому

    Hay Clay, brilliant course on the truth of alignment of our bodies and and how we get too another level by being machine like as possible,👌

  • @jakezilla101
    @jakezilla101 4 роки тому

    Great work as always

  • @danielfisher9344
    @danielfisher9344 Рік тому

    Now when you are at the full draw, are you looking down your arrow at your target? I have a lot of trouble understanding the back tension as well. The analogy of a hand on your elbow, pushing it back really makes good sense. Thanks for the videos. Daniel

  • @thadatkins9792
    @thadatkins9792 Рік тому

    I remember watching this segment when it aired. My Mom had a talk with me about it. I'm still gaming.

  • @FredrikEinberg
    @FredrikEinberg 3 роки тому

    Great vid as always. I have learn alot from you over the years. Please do a vid of your gap shooting at longer 30+ meter. When I anchor I get to a gap for 15-20 meter instinctively. Adjusting slightly to 25 meter gaps works but then it becomes harder coming up to point on wich is 40 meter for my setup I loose tension and balance and target panic tends to kick in. I am feeling a bit stuck when I try to close the gap. I use the technique of changing gap by tilting body at the hip, ie bow arm is same regardless of gap. But as said, not getting it yet. Cheers from sweden/Fredrik

  • @burningupdust5106
    @burningupdust5106 Рік тому

    greatly appreciated

  • @daleroberts4723
    @daleroberts4723 4 роки тому

    Excellent stuff

  • @12henry1234
    @12henry1234 4 роки тому

    Thank you. That was very helpful.

  • @savagepete1983
    @savagepete1983 3 роки тому

    Thank you, Clay! I have a 68" 45# OMP Sierra I'm learning on. @8:10 is a great representation of an excellent shot form. Thanks for your videos. I've learned a lot about traditional archery from our videos. I'm actually very close to 3 Rivers Archery. I'm an hour west.

  • @Artlioe
    @Artlioe 4 роки тому

    Thanks Clay!

  • @margaritaferry
    @margaritaferry 4 роки тому

    A Canning and food preservation video would be very helpful.

  • @caseysmith544
    @caseysmith544 3 роки тому

    Interesting I have used most of my life the Rotational draw due in part to my smaller size at 5 foot 2 inches, I had been calling it the downward draw since you bring the bow down into your body for me avoid the most amount of mistakes in the shot when pulling straight with a normal draw.

  • @michaelhudson2036
    @michaelhudson2036 4 роки тому

    Hooking the string would be a good short video and couple areas to anchor on your face seems like alot of people get face scrapes.awesome video

  • @cliffbrown4217
    @cliffbrown4217 3 роки тому

    You mention things that I have never seen any place else like manipulating the string on your face, hell I do that , .thanks Clay.

  • @halbritt
    @halbritt 4 роки тому +1

    Whoa, never thought I'd see Clay Hayes using a takedown bow.

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому

      Haha, I keep it around here for helping folks get their shot figured out.

  • @jamesjgill
    @jamesjgill 4 роки тому

    I appreciate the jiu jitsu reference. I did archery but got discouraged. I did jiu jitsu and learned to be more humble. Then I got hurt. Now I do archery. Again. The one taught me about the other.

  • @coler.9361
    @coler.9361 4 роки тому

    Thank you.

  • @colorado2100
    @colorado2100 4 роки тому +1

    Dave Robson
    Mr. Fowler runs his youtube videos under the name of Ranch Fairy. He's also a director with the Ashby Bowhunting Foundation. He has lots of live research since his property is overrun by feral hogs. Good stuff!

  • @woodsmansfinest3814
    @woodsmansfinest3814 4 роки тому

    Sweet stuff!

  • @willshaman2128
    @willshaman2128 4 роки тому

    Brilliant instructional video. Thank you very much. Only criticism: one *vertex*; two *vertices*, though that linguistic error makes no difference to the principle of what you're saying.

  • @chuckwalker5029
    @chuckwalker5029 4 роки тому

    My release is my main problem. Anything you could help me with there would be great. Thanks much

  • @flushot6513
    @flushot6513 4 роки тому

    I shoot compound and do love it there's something cool about all the cool gadgets and such but traditional is just badass never done it but if I ever bought a new bow would be a traditional bow

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому

      Give it a try. It’s frustrating at times but fun as hell.

  • @larryreese6146
    @larryreese6146 4 роки тому

    Lots of good advice, Clay, and well thought out. But have you ever watched any videos on the Howard Hill style of shooting? I think there might be a couple by Shultz that used to be available on Utube. What are your thoughts on that style?

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому +1

      I have and I’ve tried that method. I never could get very good with it.

    • @larryreese6146
      @larryreese6146 4 роки тому

      @@clayhayeshunter I've never shot any other way. But whatever works works. I learn a lot from your videos and enjoy them.

  • @rudymena3106
    @rudymena3106 4 роки тому

    These videos are great. Can you do one on shot placement on deer? I have general knowledge on the subject but it would be cool to see a good breakdown. Thanks.

  • @saydeerunkey3462
    @saydeerunkey3462 4 роки тому

    Thankyou for the awesome tip! I wanted to know if you know anyone that could give me advice on shooting my bow with bursitis? I've had it for 3 years but I've really been wanting to shoot! Have an awesome day!

  • @FrostleGaming
    @FrostleGaming Рік тому

    I know this video is kinda old so this wont get much attention, but does this also apply to the genisis bow?

  • @anthonywells5981
    @anthonywells5981 3 роки тому

    My bow arm has a tendency to move left at release even with all the back tension I can apply. Got a fix ?

  • @craigtheschmeg3253
    @craigtheschmeg3253 4 роки тому

    Good tips. You're able to hold position for a good amount of time. What's the draw weight on that bow?

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому

      This one is 57lbs but I shoot every day.

    • @craigtheschmeg3253
      @craigtheschmeg3253 4 роки тому

      @@clayhayeshunter Thanks for answering. I'm having trouble holding a 40lb draw. Obviously years of heavy manual labor and weight training is useless without technique and skill. I'll try 20lbs...

  • @mountaintony4878
    @mountaintony4878 2 роки тому

    Hi, Tony here, this is my first recurve, what kind of 3 under tab do you use? Also videos are great, although I keep falling a sleep, it's not because of the videos it's because I'm 70 years old , I had to give up tree stand hunting and now I'm grounded lol. Keep up with those videos. Tony

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  2 роки тому

      Hi Tony, I'm not particular on the tab. I mainly just use one I made.

  • @thepalegreek3741
    @thepalegreek3741 Рік тому

    @Clay Hayes I just got my first bow ever, it’s a 50lb recurve. I’m able to draw back but I’m shaky and it’s hard to hold it back long. Do I need to drop down to a 40lb?

  • @colorado2100
    @colorado2100 4 роки тому

    Dave Robson
    What,s your take on Troy Fowler's work with 300 spine, heavy front and high FOC? Also, please keep us up to date on your boys adventures!

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому

      I’m not familiar with Troy Fowler. But I am familiar with Ed Ashby and his work on penetration. There is a lot of good info there and I do prefer a high FOC arrow.

  • @chrismiller4048
    @chrismiller4048 3 роки тому

    Where can I get a bow like this? I've always wanted an osage orange selfbow backed in snake skin.

  • @BloodSweatnBass
    @BloodSweatnBass 3 роки тому

    Do you think its a good idea when practicing to have the target at a certain height?

    • @jake4194
      @jake4194 3 роки тому +2

      Having a target close to shoulder/chest height promotes good form, especially when shooting at close ranges.

  • @carlawilson3942
    @carlawilson3942 4 роки тому

    Every informative

  • @johnnylovesannie
    @johnnylovesannie 4 роки тому

    Thanks Clay really good info as usual. Can I put in a request for a target panic video - so much on YT from compound TP but v little for trad Archers.

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому

      I can certainly address that.

    • @johnnylovesannie
      @johnnylovesannie 4 роки тому

      Clay - excellent thanks! I’ve been trying to beat TP for years now - if I point at a target or am under pressure like in a comp I can’t draw that last inch to anchor.
      Thanks again
      John

  • @KeithLburns
    @KeithLburns Рік тому

    Im on day 6. Im at 10.3 yards roughly. In just starting to group

  • @JoshTheFlyGuy
    @JoshTheFlyGuy 3 роки тому

    For me its easy to watch a video. But I'm still having such a hard time and I'm certain my form is crap...I had to watch this atleast 7-10 times to understand my shoulders cause they definitely were not in line. Question to Anyone with good to excellent form is your chest kind of pushing out towards the bow? For me it feels like my head and chest are sort of pushing towards the bow to straighten out my shoulders and using both back shoulder blades trying to get them to touch is that what i should be feeling?

  • @emarsk77
    @emarsk77 4 роки тому +2

    Isn't the singular of "vertices" "vertex"? It's even almost written on your t-shirt 😁

  • @tomc804
    @tomc804 4 роки тому

    Love your videos and how articulate you are to get through to the viewer to help us best possibly understand I'm a long time compound hunter and target Archer moving to traditional archery and the part I'm struggling with most is release I'd love to see that soon, with a bad release it took me a long time to tune my arrows the way they should be it's slowly improving but I'd love to here you explain

  • @ironleatherwood1357
    @ironleatherwood1357 4 роки тому

    Please help, i just bought a Ben Pearson cougar, 62inch. Does that mean I need a 62inch string? Great bow but I'm a new to traditional.

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому +1

      No, talk to the folks at 3RiversArchery.com they can help with the correct string.

  • @andrewdoyle5850
    @andrewdoyle5850 4 роки тому

    Great stuff Clay. Can I ask, when you're drawing and in your holding position, which of your fingers on your string hand is feeling the most pressure from the string? Is it your middle or is it your index finger? I'm a three under shooter myself and I think I feel it in my middle finger the most but never knew if that's the correct way. Thanks and keep it up!

  • @ThumbsMcThumb
    @ThumbsMcThumb 4 роки тому +1

    Average Jack Archery did a vid about rotational draw & how it can save your shoulder.

  • @herbertmaucher8367
    @herbertmaucher8367 4 роки тому +1

    Super Video vielen lieben dank was ich fragen wollte ob ich einen Bogen von ihnen kaufen könnte ob das geht liebe grüße aus Deutschland!👍🤘

  • @isaactheising9276
    @isaactheising9276 4 роки тому

    Do you have any tips on shooting from a sitting position? (I'm in a wheelchair)

  • @thorwolf6387
    @thorwolf6387 4 роки тому

    I'm always wondering if I'm acheaving that Form triangle, even when watching the videos of myself, I can't really see it
    But I have no option to film me from above either
    Love your videos

    • @trashpanda2396
      @trashpanda2396 4 роки тому +1

      I'm thinking of using a camera or phone perched in a tree to film straight down. It would be interesting to see!

    • @incorporeal3793
      @incorporeal3793 4 роки тому +1

      Get a friend to stand on a box or step ladder. Or a cheap medium-sized tripod or an extendable self stick you can attach to something else. You could even lay your phone on the ground directly beneath you looking up. It will still give an idea as to whether or not your draw arm is in alignment with the arrow.

    • @clayhayeshunter
      @clayhayeshunter  4 роки тому +1

      Just use some tape or rubber bands to stick your phone on the ceiling.

  • @zaldumbide13
    @zaldumbide13 4 роки тому

    Fuck ya Clay !!! Very informative, this was an awesome series.

  • @Snyderman96701
    @Snyderman96701 2 роки тому

    I like the simile to jiu-jitsu. That flipped the switch for me.

  • @WhiteDean45
    @WhiteDean45 3 роки тому

    What's your bow length?

  • @shanedarden5238
    @shanedarden5238 3 роки тому

    I consistently shoot left whats the problem?

  • @sessionbread
    @sessionbread 2 роки тому

    Vertex is singular. Vertices is plural.

  • @franciscoedmar1051
    @franciscoedmar1051 2 роки тому

    🇧🇷🤗🏹👍🏹👍🤗🏹 show my friends 🤗👍

  • @biznestelch2941
    @biznestelch2941 8 місяців тому

    9:45 oh, damn, I felt the muscles to.p

  • @ronaldgoodrich5460
    @ronaldgoodrich5460 4 роки тому

    No matter how you shoot always concentrate on the target.