To be fair, it's not Adventure 02's fault for any continuity errors. It ended more than a decade before Tri and the other movies came out. It's the writers that fail to adapt to that ending like its that hard. Seriously, just watch the last five episodes of 02. That's all you need.
@Fureiji88, the whole season was a mess, I recall a few episodes that started at what felt like halfway into a more interesting one, and don't get me started on the dropped story lines and plot points. These reasons and more are why I always hated 02
@@santosmurilono it’s still canon… no matter what people try to say, it’s still canon. Why people are still saying this is beyond me. Just because something wasn’t well received doesn’t mean its story isn’t actually canon. Writers don’t work that way lol
@thedigiknow I watch a series called The Amazing Digital Circus their something in the series pilot called abstracted it's when human mind stuck into a digital avatar and lost their minds, I watch something called finnthepony has second theory explain What could mean. also the game scans your brain with a headset to make custom avatar and also the game buggy program explain the abstraction too. that's prefect idea for digimon and beat to it.
As someone, who has already watched the movie, I absolutely agree with everything those reviews say. Like I said yesterday, I had some issues with it, (like appearntly a lot of people had), but, (also like appearntly a lot of people), I absolutely enjoyed it. And yeah, it's a horror movie. (Ghost Game was a kid's show compared to it.) About 80% of the movie I was just sitting there with my hands covering my mouth, because I was so shocked. I'm glad you can watch the movie soon. Looking forward to to hear your thoughts on it. Ps: There is something that nobody talkes about though. Those two were sooo cute together. I totally ship them now.
Wow that was something it was basically Lui backstory. If didn't watch the movie then you didn't miss much. I'm am wondering if they going to do another movie doing something about the present. Kizuna was the last. Beginning the past. The next one is about the present.
I watched it in the German Cinema on Friday and what really hit me was how dark this movie was. I was glad to see everyone achiving their dreams like Hikari being a kindergardener in the beginning and the comedic moments where fun too, but once we got the backstory flashback it was just kinda...yeah. And while I personally didn't mind it, I can see why some fans might be disappointed by how short the fight scenes were and that we didn't really get anything "new" other than Ukkomon. We'll still need something to see how we get to the 02 Ending from here tho, since a couple things don't really line up just yet...since the thing that IS going to happen was kinda just stopped in this movie lol.
Geht mir genauso. It was really awesome and I think the things actually line up quite well. Sadly I cant explain why THAT thing had to stop at the moment, but it certainly makes sense to adults. This development has to go slowly, otherwise there would be chaos.
@@alexandermatos165 That they lost the digivices. Tai is on his way to being politician, Yolei and Ken were hinted at and in the old epilogue we didnt see any digivices. They could just go through Izzys Gate Software instead.
Im excited to see the English dub but also sad. I found out Paul St. Peter, voice of Wormmon, was asked to reprise his role for the new 02 movie but had to decline because Toei did not want to dub it under a union contract so he had to decline this movie T-T I was really looking forward to hearing him come back as Wormmon.
I don't blame Toei for not wanting to sign a contract with American studios you should read what those contracts say it pretty mess up also it's possible the voice actors wouldn't be allowed to act or do voice acting outside of the character race and skin color. Everyone should Look up what the strikes in Hollywood did this has already caused a lot of damage to the dub anime industry.
@@Alejandra-cv7rj he was asked to dub this either before or right when the strikes happened so that would not really effect this movie. also he would have be voicing a Digimon that is called wormmon, so race and gender don't play a role in this either since he is voicing a green digital monster.
Just watched it in theatre this weekend. I get that people is saying the plot is cheap for the sake of cheesiness and plot conveniences. It is, indeed, felt more suitable as an extra cerebration episode than a movie. But I still enjoyed this more that Tri and Kizuna just for the narrative isn't "The child grew up, time to act adult and drop the child self" setup.
This movie was so bad. 02 cast are just side characters in this movie, it’s a drag to get to, over use of 3D in the final “battle” if you could even call that and it completely wrecks the OG story and provides no answers
I’d say the writers are kind of hoping that sales would be enough to warrant a 3rd movie that would connect to the epilogue because in the days leading up to the movie, there was a special program that had a lore timeline and the epilogue was mentioned so I don’t think it was retconned entirely. I bet the probable third movie will have Mei, Menoa, and Lui Star that helps bring the long story to the epilogue
I hope the writers are happy about the sales because I heard the sales are good :) I want another movie that connected the 02 Ending. But I want to see a story with the 02 digidestined in the main role.
*at risk of sounding like a troll* 🗣️THIS DIGIMON MOVIE WAS ASS AND WE SHOULD RIOT ETA: 3:20 if I had watched this video before going... Maybe I would have been prepared... .
I will never forgive or excuse any mistakes tri, kizuna or this film make. The only purpose of the midquels is to fill on the gap from the malomyotismon defeat to the 02 ending. Yet they keep half assing it.
I've also seeked reviews about the movie It's super interesting to hear the major complaints about people in the west is about the recons to the lore while in japan it's about how dark and sad the movie can get, which it's understandable, japanese people tend to go to movies to have a good time, that's why their favorite type of animated films are slice of life stories mixed with some fantastic elements or just straight up "battle shonen" movies. Either way I'm really excited to go and watch it on theaters.
Yeah they are seemingly fine with most things bar Digimon Frontier and Tri. (both atrocities, trust me I watched them both AND Kizuna before, the difference between Tri and Kizuna is stark).
@@mikethepokemaster2012 The main gripe I had with Frontier is almost every other villain bar Lucemon (since he's the last one) took almost forever to kill. Gigasmon alone takes like at least 4 episodes and that's just the first guy. Then Mecurymon, Duskmon and the Dynasmon-Crusadermon duo jack that up even further.
This concerns me so much now, because o feel like they are trying to kill digimon because of these themes they keep going for, side lining out main cast while pishing these new charactwrs that will only ever be just in the movies and nothing more, its like theyre telling us to just move on and get over it theres nothing here for you anymore, thays what i keep seeong with these movies and series.
My friend and I have been fans from the beginning. I bought our ticket to see it Dubbed. I’m so excited man I can’t wait. Going to take my 02 Digivice 😂
I just got back from seeing the movie and overall the movie was good, wish we spend some more time with the main cast, the animation was great along with the soundtrack, the new kids backstory was very serious I know digimon's covered serious matter before but this might have been too serious especially for a comeback movie, and most of the voice actors did a great job felt like they got right back into the groove. I feel that the new kids backstory could have been cut down a little bit and maybe add an additional action scene or maybe some more time with the main cast, but I also understand that this is basically the new kids movie. Like I said earlier, this is a good film Digimon lore implications aside. It was just great to be in a theater with a digimon fans just like me. Oh, and also, I wish we got some new evolutions for the Digimon partners that seem like a missed opportunity.
I absolutely loved 02 Digimon. Had so many great episodes and really looking forward to this film. I’m hoping I’ll be able to stream it- not showing in the Uk
I'm excited for this movie but will treat it like its own thing, like I did with Kizuna. Bc I wasn't a fan of tri and it's animation (that lineart choice...), I enjoyed Kizuna without that baggage but I also got that "grow up already" message (knowing full well they will reunite with their partners some day since the 02 epilogue is canon... Which didn't make me cry less lol). The animation was supreme, though. Really enjoyed it. I read a comment on another video saying that what they understood was the digimon represented a spark or passion in your youth you lose as an adult but can regain at some point. I call that the ability to be amused by the world and be inspired. That makes more sense to me, BUT if the movie clearly left almost everyone understanding something else, then it's on the storyteller for not communicating what they wanted clearly, not the audience.
I mean,, having just watched Kizuna, it's heavily implied that they were going to see their partners again, even with a lot of them moving in the direction of the epilogue (Mimi and Sora not withstanding). So I'm curious what about the ending changes the lore so much that its worth noting and not just brushing off like Kizuna's ending was.
If the epilogue of 02 is cannon, then they do meet Agumon and Gabumon again. And it does seem that way since Yamato is studying for aerospace, so seems like the intent is to make even the silly parts of the 02 epilogue true.
There was a recent DigiNavi with the cast of the movie and it was shown that the 02 epilogue is still canon so it’s weird that The Beginning seemingly doesn’t wrap things nicely to realign Kizuna with the rest of the continuity. Are we to expect another movie or just assume untold off screen adventures we’ll never see happens?
tbh, I expect them to go forward by ignoring Kizuna because of it's massive continuity problems down the line. And considering a majority of people do not like Kizunas story at all on top of it at all as well I can see them just declaring it out of continuity and move on.
@@EnerKaizer I don't see a continuity problem personally. I viewed the whole plot as they're growing up and figuring out who they are other than being chosen ones. Because of this psychological shifting and self discovery they lost their connections. We have to remember that dark evolutions exist and Digimon are influenced by their partners on an emotional and mental level. The original 8 were literally created or had their data altered to connect them to their human, crests, and Digivice.
*Honest review / no spoilers* I got to watch it on the 27th in Germany. I was so disappointed and so was the audience (around me). It is a movie about Rui (a new character). The cast of 02 plays little to almost no role in the story which in itself is very simple and filled with loopholes. It will definitely leave you with more questions than answers. The action is scarce. I was shocked when the final battle was over. It literally lasted for one minute. 💔
Omg this is very disheartening. So they didn’t listen to none of the reviews about Tri being completely focused on meicoomon and mei, or even the 2020 adventure which focused too much on Tai. Why won’t they listen to us?!?!😩😩
@@kevosaysohoeyou are absolutely right, it felt awful lot like Tri. However, Tri did few things better. Won't mention the to avoid spoiling the movie. 😅
This is how they treat digimon. They can't just grow the garden they have, they just throw more and more flowers in without considering if they even look good together. When i first saw Rui he just looked a like a goth cry baby version of Ken. Black broken digivice, was mean to his partner, has family issues, a loner. Why couldn't they bring back the other two original digidestined who we don't know or like make him their kid?
I'm so sick and tired of "tragic OC of the week" in Digimon. It was fine 20+ years ago, but then it became one of the reasons Tri was dragged through the mud and Kizuna had this dull, trite trope too. But AGAIN ???? Are they so devoid of imagination that another Wallace/Minami/Meiko/Maki/Menoa token character is all they can come up with ? I'm so through with Digimon Adventure continuations. It all ended with Diaboromon Strikes Back, as far as I'm concerned.
I just watched it last night with my kids! (Ages 8 and 9)...I did NOT expect it...but yeah it was pretty dark. The drive back was a long convo with them, but it wasn't terrible. They were good, but yeah, I personally liked the moral of the story and the direction they went with it and the retcon didn't feel too forced or bad.
In terms of a digimon movie where it's bombastic it fails, but where it shines is it being a generally feel good emotional movie. I'm sure many ppl can relate to Rui, and how they would want and regret something that he wished for. It's a solid movie if you're not going in expecting a lot of 02 memberberries
I just don’t understand. After 20+ years why the focus on new characters?? Who cares?? Why not just build up the characters we already know and love and haven’t seen in almost thirty years!? Just mind boggling to me.
In their Defense a lot of these anime films for long running series revolve around a new character (Willis, Mennoa, Uta in One Piece, Broly in DBS…that way you can have a full character arc in the span of your film. Whereas characters like David and Ken have already “completed” their character arcs in their respective shows
I thought this would be the last film and that it would connect Kizuna to the epilogue of 02. Well, as the film doesn't connect to the epilogue of 02, it's more than obvious that Toei did it on purpose so that it would have the justification to do at least another film. The film could be a retcon, but we will have to wait for the new film to say whether it is a good retcon or a bad retcon. For people who want a cohesive work, the retcon ruins the experience. On the other hand, retcons can improve something. The question that remains unanswered: is the film necessary? We don't know if the events of this film don't influence the next film or the return of the Digimon. Yes, it is unnecessary and could only be for one season or not exist at all but now if the next film has a connection with this one, then it could be necessary to bring the digimon back.
While it doesn't recycle the foreshadowing of Kizuna, the events at the end of The Beginning are clearly a key point for the future return of all digimon.
I hated Kizuna’s ending. Yes sometime in your life the dream of living in an imaginary world ends, but it also implied adults have no dream, which is not true at all giving it’s the adults created these imaginary world for the kids, this was kind of going against the premise of the 02’s ending. I haven’t got chance to watch the movie yet, and I guess I won’t be enjoy this film too much.
I haven't been keeping up with reboots, just checking in with new series like Ghost Game. But this makes me interested in this movie; I've always thought Digimon had far better potential to tackle more dark or mature topics than some other series, and I would be interested to see if this one does that.
Watched the movie twice already, cause I had to get them cards, and I gotta say those twitter reviews do not reflect what most people think. The new lore and retcon seems way too out of place and "too convenient" (that's what one guy meant by cheap actually) and the movie had almost no action, which for Digimon content it makes no sense, even if you want to make a more adult movie. Pace of the movie is also weird as it seems to start already mid story and then most of it is just going down memory lane, but not in a good kind of way where they go "10 hours before" and explain the whole situation, no, movie keeps on going forward and telling what it wants to tell but with no real set up. To me it felt overall that the movie should have been released as a TV Special instead as I felt it was not really worth a theatrical release and while I don't think it was bad overall, it was okaish and kind of a minor dissapointment.
@@hyperslash2144 if we're lucky, maybe AllTheAnime could do something for a UK screening. I know that they helped get a UK screening for Kizuna in late 2021, when the Covid outbreaks eased up a bit.
well... This movie feels again like the people in charge of Digimon at Toei are devided, and it shows in the end result. It almost feels like this was supposed to be a story ONLY about Rui, but whoever was in charge demanded the 02 cast to be in this movie in some starring role, which basically resulted in a half baked mess and explains the absolute tonal whiplash mentioned in the reviews. This is almost modern Spider-Man comics level of creative dissonance here. They didn't feel confident with whatever new they wanted originally to do, and, in order to feel at least save, wrapped this all up in something we already knew and then discarded it the moment people bought their tickets. Have already seen many people who felt cheated by the advertising of The beginning.
Tbh with myself digimon was always dark especially with digimon tamer,ghost game and how if I remember correctly in the original digimon anime miyotismon did subtly killed a woman
And taichi acting like an abusive parent to agumon, causing skull greymon to be a thing And the loss of wizardmon actually weighing down on tailmon for a time Not to mention all the other series, each getting more open about their seriousness. Tamers having a very bleak depiction of a depressed child dealing with grief, a depiction of takato pushing guilmon to be evil against his will again. People treating their digimon partners awfully is a recurring theme in digimon and it's always treated as a serious thing. Heck, frontier even had a lot of seriousness to it, even if it takes ages to show up in full
I couldn’t be anymore happy that not only digimon adventure continue even after the finale of last evolution movie but new focus on 02 casts finally after long overdue ignored disregarded and overlooked in digimon adventure tri and small role in last evolution now at last 02 casts has finally had bigger and more important roles and spotlights they rightfully deserved
So the movie is dark without a lot of action? Great. The two things I was hoping the movie wouldn't be. I'm so sick of Digimon being melodramatic, talky, and unfun.
Yeah it won't appeal to everyone. I am kind of surprised at how much Digimon has focused on horror / darkness the last few years with Survive, Ghost Game, and now 02 The Beginning. I wonder if it was intentional, like a mandate to make Digimon darker, or total coincidence? Since Survive was in development years before Ghost Game was even an idea
The Digimon franchise has won over many fans precisely because it has heavier themes and is darker than its competitors. Personally, as I'm a big fan of horror, I really like this style that Digimon has been doing recently. As for the film being more of a story than a fight, I don't see any problem. As long as the story is good and engaging. I think it doesn't take much fighting to make an interesting film. Not to mention that it's just a film, I don't think it's necessary for them to introduce ''unnecessary'' fights just so people don't complain about ''there's not enough fighting''. Last but not least, the reboot is totally the opposite of this film because it has a lot of fights, some of which are even unnecessary, but the plot is complete rubbish. So much so that for me, the reboot is the worst season ever.
I'm a long term fan and like the darkness they're exploring. There's plenty of light with the morals to be learned with each series. Plus a lot of veteran fans are longing for more mature looks at the series. I can definitely speak for myself. Hyped for the movie!
Watched it in theatre last night. 1. It contradicts the lore setup in 01 and 02. 2. The movie itself was just bad, as the majority of the film is just the characters standing around talking about origin stuff. Was so boring. 3. The movie is so dark. My kids love digimon (9 and 6). The movie turned into a horror movie halfway through and scarred my children. My kids threw their digimon stuffies away the moment we got home (they have life-sized rookie level digimon Agumon, Lopmon and Terriermon) and don't want to ever watch any digimon stuff ever again. I was about to show them Tamers next... 4. Feels like a fan fiction. So in the end, avoid. Especially if you have children.
@@thedigiknow Yeah. I am kind of heartbroken. Digimon was something I could bond over with my kids. They loved it more than Pokemon. On the drive there, holding their stuffed digimon rookies and my oldest wearing her tag and crest of light. My youngest was asking for their own tag and crest of courage. During the opening ads, they saw digimon cards and begged me for those, saying how they dont like pokemon cards anymore but want digimon cards. They show all their friends digimon (many just learning it for the first time). When we left, my oldest was in tears and threw her tag and crest. I had to go get it (it was expensive). When we got home, neither slept with their digimon stuffies (which they normally do). My youngest asked to watch PBS kids shows to help him not think about the movie. Had to let him fall asleep watching cause the movie was on his mind so much. Neither kid wants digimon cards anymore, either. If they were going to make a digimon for only the adult fans, then this should have had a rating or warning.
I really enjoyed the movie-it had a darker tone, an intriguing story, and let's be honest, it's clearly aimed at a more mature, older audience. You can't expect it to play out like a children's show, and I feel like that's where most of the negative reviews are coming from.
Revenge of Diaboromon was a great ending the Adventure. I was ok wity tri bring back the gang, though the big bad was completely lack luster. Didnt care for last evo. Hopefully i can just enjoy the show for this movie
My guess is that the ending will be just be similar to Kizuna, in that it will essentially strongly imply another story needing to take place between this and the epilogue.
I watching The 02 movie and it wasn’t good. I might have watched digimon dub but I found a lot things that contradicts the anime 01 and 02 as well as Tri. I also found that the Digimon won’t used that much. And that the world tour digi we’re just used as background.
Just saw it. It was alright, darker than I anticipated. Kind of wish I just waited for streaming on this one. Armadillomon’s dub voice was god awful cringed everytime.
2 minutes in. Wasn't the point of Kizuna that the digi destined needed to stand on their own two feet, deal with the adult world without a digimon cheerleader/baby in the back of their head. Resulting in the eventual return of their digimon partners when the digi destined begin to settle down. Or when they've lost their way due to adulting. Aka. Tai is being ensnared by dubious political machination, which he himself plays into, maybe losing himself in alcohol and struggling to keep his relationship going with his pregnant wife/girlfriend/mistress. Exactly when he needs a reminder of whom he really is... a reminder of the bravery inside of him. Maybe with in a larger context of a whole host of kids having been swept away by the digital world, bringing with them a more diverse aray of stuff. Like abusive parents, drug abuse, etc... which then encurs the wrath of the digital world and love as new digimon get born from it. Resulting in a need for actual communications between the human and digital world and a police force to police the digtial world which has been corrupted by humans, underlying the almost symbiotic nature of both worlds. To put it as you put it. If Kizunas message felt like screaming to us older fans to "GROW UP!" future projects could add to that message of "But don't forget" aka. to act in accordance of how your younger self would view you as you are now. In short that child in us which we might deem unnecessary, even as something to be ashamed of is what keeps us honest and grounds us. And that is my head cannon. Basically maturing the franchise called digimon, while not at the same time dick riding that to oblivion. I remember a 02 movie where in the old digi destined gave up and lost the will to fight, while the younger ones didn't and in the end the younger ones saved the day or rather wielded omnimon as a sword to defeat that weird spider mon form "our war game". Jaded adult tai that lost his way get's reminded of agumon that ther is always a way and to keep fighting. And I don't want it to be quick no I want it to be a struggle. Over the course of of a year. As the message of digimon was growth and understanding your emotions and the emotions of others. And do not give up.
I’ll be honest here. The new movie was amazing. There were a few things I was disappointed about ofc because of certain things (not saying bc spoilers) but watching this movie felt like I was watching Madoka Magica. I’ll leave it at that
The movie was pleasantly average imo. I liked the movie overall, thought the new kid's story was a little boring. I wished there was more 02 cast moments. Also why did they go to the past and show Tai and Kari? There seemed to be pretty much no point to that flashback. I really enjoyed the moments with the kids just hanging out together in Davis' ramen shop where him and Veemon are making the food 😂
I watched the Dub last night! It was definitely fun to finally see a Digimon film in theaters. I had a ticket for Kizuna in theaters, but COVID hit and that screening got canceled. I can't wait for your review and thoughts. Overall, I liked it wayyyy more than Kizuna. Kizuna is a weird case where I need to revisit it, but I am very much in the camp of "Bad writing, emotional bait movie." That could change with a rewatch. I definitely agree with some of the reviews that The Beginning is a darker film, some Ghost Game/Survive edge thrown in there. I liked the themes and everything even if I do think it suffers the issue of focusing on a new character like Tri and Kizuna. Though I would say Rui/"Louie" is my favorite of that bunch.
I really recommend you watch some fansubs for Kizuna, the language used for that movie was extremely subtle, like a lot of the meaning hinging on the different meanings of Destiny (Unmei) and Fate (Shukumei) in japanese, which the dub team ran through like a bulldozer, amongst other stuff they just didn't get.
I'm from Poland, Digimon translations were stopped on episode 16 of Digimon Adventure Tri, a dozen or so episodes of Digimon Advedture 2020 were still translated. The first Digimon series was broadcast on Polish television, that's when I watched the anime for the first time, even though I didn't know about the existence of anime, I immediately loved it. I liked it compared to stupid western cartoons. You shouldn't be afraid of spoilers if a given title is good and if someone learns its story prematurely, they will still have fun at the screening even though they know what will happen. A good title will speak for itself, you could make half the episode without spoilers and the next half with spoilers, or a separate episode with spoilers. I have more important problems in life than spoilers from works that I will never have time for, after all, there are so many of them I miss the Polish translation of Digimon Ghost Game, but I'm too lazy to learn English, and I don't learn English because I prefer to use my native language so that the language doesn't become extinct.
I didn't know English Dub was only one day in my area, and tomorrow everyone doing the Japanese dub. IDK if I want to go since I grew up on the English dub
I always kept debating about the Last Kizuna ending. Genai did say, Eng Dub, unless Tai and Matt had some potential locked away, their ties would be severed. Perhaps at some point their potential manifested.
The only thing that Genai meant is their potential as digidestined aka ppl called upon to bring peace to the world and use a digivice to force evolution. Humans can still coexist with Digimon, that's the entire reason Tai is submitting a thesis to go into politics at the end of the movie. The adults in the 02 epilogue aren't chosen anymore that's the role of the next generation. To analyze it on a meta level, Kizuna is about the inevitability of growing up but ties into 02 to say "you can still hold onto what you loved as a kid as an adult, you just have to reevaluate the importance it holds on your life."
Just finished my screening and hate to say I don’t like it at all. The idea of this movie is way too trivial and too similar to “Last Evolution”. The introduction of new character also seemed forced. Though it’s not as bad as tri, I still think there are a lot of improvements needs to be made. Thanks for the video though!
I really didn't like this one. The first half of the movie is really fucked up and the second is boring power of friendship solves everything with barely any action in the movie. I really hate how every movie introduces a new character that retcons a whole bunch of stuff and takes up the majority of the movie, especially when this one was barely over an hour
I plan on taking my two children (ages 4 and 7) to see the movie next week, I'm really worried that since it apparently has a darker tone and some scenes of potential abuse/horror that it'll be too much for my young ones. I really really hope its still appropriate for the youngest of viewers. Thanks for sharing.
The spoilers on with the will sound very intense and as a 30s adult I am debating whether I am going to see it in theaters or wait til it comes out and fast-forward through certain scenes. If the spoilers are correct it might get an R rating.
@@melaniepage7321 oh my god thanks for bringing this to my attention, I looked it up and confirmed that indeed the scene in question really does sound like way too much for both of my kids. I will be trying to get my money back on those movie tickets!
I don’t recommend it at all for children. Even I in my 20s was shocked with the graphic scenes as that’s something l did not sign up for. But that’s not to say the movie was bad though.
There was a chatty little girl sitting behind me at my showing last night and she didn't seem to bothered by it. But each child is different so it really depends on your own children.
As a hardcore Digimon fan, I thought the ending was fine but it pissed me off last evolution was so good in comparison and made me feel emotional. Then ending of this movie felt flat and without spoiling anything there is literally less then three minutes of fighting... I loved 02 growing up, I play the new card game now and I am investing my time in a series that I love. This just felt like a slap in the face to long time fans.
That's the issue with anything regarding Adventure 01 and 02. They act like both seasons are their own comtinuity when they should be an extension of each other.
When will they understand that we don’t want heavy sad stories about the main characters going through pain and loss? We want to see the characters come back and have fun and cool interactions! We want good stories! We want to see the characters and digimon have fun interactions, not being told the entire time about how shitty their bond is now. They have completely forgotten what fans want to see
In short, this was probably the worst Digimon movie they've put out. I hope this doesn't kill Digimon, that we can get a movie to set things right soon (somehow).
It was aight, the story is basically an arc like a TV show. Besides that the evolutions and the art is obviously updated. It looked lit, but it was pretty boring.
I actually hated it. No fights, no new evolutions, creepy. Focused waaaay too much on the "deep" emotional stuff instead of what digimon is all about. They really need to picka lane. Either theyre catering to the kids/tiktok crowd or theyre catering to the nostalgia and the adults with the deep drama. The ending sucked. Just over all completely underwhelming! I wish they would focus on better stuff.
I get that the balance overall was positive, but I don't know how to feel about these "shifts"... Digimon lore has always ben kinda MESSY for me tbh. I'm going to theater since it's confirmed here in Brazil already 🙏🏼
Digimon lore has always been messy, largely because the lore isn't the point. Digimon adventure and digimon fusion are really the only 2 series to get another series set in the same continuity, everything else is in its own universe, completely seperate for a reason. Digimon has always been about the characters, so if the lore shifts, as long as it helps tell the characters' stories, it's all fine, the lore is basically just guesswork and theories in-universe anyways
As someone that already saw the movie .... well the animation is good, the story as a stand alone is good but as a part of a series is bad like BAD BAD if you are a fan that can put aside its nostalgia and watch it be prepared for a story worst than tri and with bigger retcons than kizuna , but if you are a fan that is just happy to see a new digimon movie you will like it .
Hi! Just so you know, there are zero spoilers in this video. But still I respect and understand your decision to skip this one. Just wanted to clarify!! :)
I just watched out of fear of being spoiled too and I must say it was very refreshing and spoiler free. It was selected reviews sharing that they like, dislike or have confusion towards how their experience was.
They gaslit the ish outta Louie. He was 4 then 8 how is he supposed to understand the power of a god! He had so much trauma and they were like yeaaa say sorry
I really did not like the film. It was fun hearing people reprise some of the roles. I wish they had a voice that was closer to original Armadillomon. It really fell flat.
Just saw it and I agree. It does whatever it wants and retcons all of digimon for an new edgelord character. Wasn’t a fan at all of this one as the cast cannot carry any story it seems xD. It has a nice theme but it’s just not done well.
I like how the trailers to this movie on youtube are being set to the kids setting, not allowing comments and encouring me to get the youtube kids app 😂
I've seen the film and MY review is now live! No spoilers review: ua-cam.com/video/dojK_yrBMGc/v-deo.htmlsi=9oUC4aFxFdrFmq3I
To be fair, it's not Adventure 02's fault for any continuity errors. It ended more than a decade before Tri and the other movies came out. It's the writers that fail to adapt to that ending like its that hard. Seriously, just watch the last five episodes of 02. That's all you need.
Which were all rushed along with the fact the 2nd half of 02 was a jumbled mess compared to the first half
@Fureiji88, the whole season was a mess, I recall a few episodes that started at what felt like halfway into a more interesting one, and don't get me started on the dropped story lines and plot points. These reasons and more are why I always hated 02
The second half has an interesting character just thrown in to get fans talking, and it shows. It's a shame he is not mentioned or shown here.
Tri is confirmed to be non-cannon
@@santosmurilono it’s still canon… no matter what people try to say, it’s still canon. Why people are still saying this is beyond me. Just because something wasn’t well received doesn’t mean its story isn’t actually canon. Writers don’t work that way lol
Absolutely no spoilers in this video by the way!
thank you so much
@thedigiknow I watch a series called The Amazing Digital Circus their something in the series pilot called abstracted it's when human mind stuck into a digital avatar and lost their minds, I watch something called finnthepony has second theory explain What could mean. also the game scans your brain with a headset to make custom avatar and also the game buggy program explain the abstraction too. that's prefect idea for digimon and beat to it.
@@skistorm739yeah I watched the first episode! Love those kinds of stories
@@thedigiknow thinks, being abstract strange completely alien to the Digimon world and what it go to it.
It sucks we all know
As someone, who has already watched the movie, I absolutely agree with everything those reviews say.
Like I said yesterday, I had some issues with it, (like appearntly a lot of people had), but, (also like appearntly a lot of people), I absolutely enjoyed it.
And yeah, it's a horror movie.
(Ghost Game was a kid's show compared to it.)
About 80% of the movie I was just sitting there with my hands covering my mouth, because I was so shocked.
I'm glad you can watch the movie soon.
Looking forward to to hear your thoughts on it.
Ps: There is something that nobody talkes about though.
Those two were sooo cute together. I totally ship them now.
Did you mean yolei and ken?
Ghost Game was a kid's show though. 🤷♂️
As a huge digimon fan. This was an awful… digivolving to mega forms and dna digivolving for no reason. Fighting for no reason. Terrible premise.
Wow that was something it was basically Lui backstory. If didn't watch the movie then you didn't miss much.
I'm am wondering if they going to do another movie doing something about the present. Kizuna was the last. Beginning the past. The next one is about the present.
I watched it in the German Cinema on Friday and what really hit me was how dark this movie was. I was glad to see everyone achiving their dreams like Hikari being a kindergardener in the beginning and the comedic moments where fun too, but once we got the backstory flashback it was just kinda...yeah. And while I personally didn't mind it, I can see why some fans might be disappointed by how short the fight scenes were and that we didn't really get anything "new" other than Ukkomon. We'll still need something to see how we get to the 02 Ending from here tho, since a couple things don't really line up just yet...since the thing that IS going to happen was kinda just stopped in this movie lol.
Geht mir genauso. It was really awesome and I think the things actually line up quite well. Sadly I cant explain why THAT thing had to stop at the moment, but it certainly makes sense to adults. This development has to go slowly, otherwise there would be chaos.
@@maximumrisk2004 It doesn't line up at all. It even contradicts the lore setup in 01.
What do you mean by that IS👀 spoil me fck it😂
@@maximumrisk2004what is THAT thing you are referring to?
@@alexandermatos165 That they lost the digivices. Tai is on his way to being politician, Yolei and Ken were hinted at and in the old epilogue we didnt see any digivices. They could just go through Izzys Gate Software instead.
I'm happy to see that the reviews are generally positive. I was already interested in the movie, but now I have more of a reason to watch
Im excited to see the English dub but also sad. I found out Paul St. Peter, voice of Wormmon, was asked to reprise his role for the new 02 movie but had to decline because Toei did not want to dub it under a union contract so he had to decline this movie T-T I was really looking forward to hearing him come back as Wormmon.
I don't blame Toei for not wanting to sign a contract with American studios you should read what those contracts say it pretty mess up also it's possible the voice actors wouldn't be allowed to act or do voice acting outside of the character race and skin color. Everyone should Look up what the strikes in Hollywood did this has already caused a lot of damage to the dub anime industry.
@@Alejandra-cv7rj he was asked to dub this either before or right when the strikes happened so that would not really effect this movie. also he would have be voicing a Digimon that is called wormmon, so race and gender don't play a role in this either since he is voicing a green digital monster.
Just watched it in theatre this weekend.
I get that people is saying the plot is cheap for the sake of cheesiness and plot conveniences.
It is, indeed, felt more suitable as an extra cerebration episode than a movie.
But I still enjoyed this more that Tri and Kizuna just for the narrative isn't "The child grew up, time to act adult and drop the child self" setup.
It’s like they want us to hate ourselves for liking digimon as adults, yet they still want us to buy the products
This movie was so bad. 02 cast are just side characters in this movie, it’s a drag to get to, over use of 3D in the final “battle” if you could even call that and it completely wrecks the OG story and provides no answers
I’d say the writers are kind of hoping that sales would be enough to warrant a 3rd movie that would connect to the epilogue because in the days leading up to the movie, there was a special program that had a lore timeline and the epilogue was mentioned so I don’t think it was retconned entirely.
I bet the probable third movie will have Mei, Menoa, and Lui Star that helps bring the long story to the epilogue
I hope the writers are happy about the sales because I heard the sales are good :) I want another movie that connected the 02 Ending. But I want to see a story with the 02 digidestined in the main role.
I have seen the film! Spoiler free review on Sunday Nov 12. Spoiler full review / ending explained the week after!
Nice, hope you liked it, it was probably my favorite of these Adventure reunion movies, despite its flaws.
*at risk of sounding like a troll* 🗣️THIS DIGIMON MOVIE WAS ASS AND WE SHOULD RIOT
ETA: 3:20 if I had watched this video before going... Maybe I would have been prepared...
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I will never forgive or excuse any mistakes tri, kizuna or this film make. The only purpose of the midquels is to fill on the gap from the malomyotismon defeat to the 02 ending. Yet they keep half assing it.
I've also seeked reviews about the movie It's super interesting to hear the major complaints about people in the west is about the recons to the lore while in japan it's about how dark and sad the movie can get, which it's understandable, japanese people tend to go to movies to have a good time, that's why their favorite type of animated films are slice of life stories mixed with some fantastic elements or just straight up "battle shonen" movies. Either way I'm really excited to go and watch it on theaters.
It reached number 1 in Japan so those criticisms are probably not representative.
Yeah they are seemingly fine with most things bar Digimon Frontier and Tri. (both atrocities, trust me I watched them both AND Kizuna before, the difference between Tri and Kizuna is stark).
Can't be any worse than the tedious drivel that is Sailor Moon Eternal. 🤷♂️
@mrex666productions7 frontier is not bad. It just took the partner aspect.
@@mikethepokemaster2012 The main gripe I had with Frontier is almost every other villain bar Lucemon (since he's the last one) took almost forever to kill. Gigasmon alone takes like at least 4 episodes and that's just the first guy. Then Mecurymon, Duskmon and the Dynasmon-Crusadermon duo jack that up even further.
This concerns me so much now, because o feel like they are trying to kill digimon because of these themes they keep going for, side lining out main cast while pishing these new charactwrs that will only ever be just in the movies and nothing more, its like theyre telling us to just move on and get over it theres nothing here for you anymore, thays what i keep seeong with these movies and series.
My friend and I have been fans from the beginning. I bought our ticket to see it Dubbed. I’m so excited man I can’t wait. Going to take my 02 Digivice 😂
Hope you enjoy it!
I just got back from seeing the movie and overall the movie was good, wish we spend some more time with the main cast, the animation was great along with the soundtrack, the new kids backstory was very serious I know digimon's covered serious matter before but this might have been too serious especially for a comeback movie, and most of the voice actors did a great job felt like they got right back into the groove. I feel that the new kids backstory could have been cut down a little bit and maybe add an additional action scene or maybe some more time with the main cast, but I also understand that this is basically the new kids movie. Like I said earlier, this is a good film Digimon lore implications aside. It was just great to be in a theater with a digimon fans just like me. Oh, and also, I wish we got some new evolutions for the Digimon partners that seem like a missed opportunity.
I absolutely loved 02 Digimon. Had so many great episodes and really looking forward to this film. I’m hoping I’ll be able to stream it- not showing in the Uk
I'm excited for this movie but will treat it like its own thing, like I did with Kizuna.
Bc I wasn't a fan of tri and it's animation (that lineart choice...), I enjoyed Kizuna without that baggage but I also got that "grow up already" message (knowing full well they will reunite with their partners some day since the 02 epilogue is canon... Which didn't make me cry less lol). The animation was supreme, though. Really enjoyed it.
I read a comment on another video saying that what they understood was the digimon represented a spark or passion in your youth you lose as an adult but can regain at some point. I call that the ability to be amused by the world and be inspired. That makes more sense to me, BUT if the movie clearly left almost everyone understanding something else, then it's on the storyteller for not communicating what they wanted clearly, not the audience.
I mean,, having just watched Kizuna, it's heavily implied that they were going to see their partners again, even with a lot of them moving in the direction of the epilogue (Mimi and Sora not withstanding). So I'm curious what about the ending changes the lore so much that its worth noting and not just brushing off like Kizuna's ending was.
If the epilogue of 02 is cannon, then they do meet Agumon and Gabumon again. And it does seem that way since Yamato is studying for aerospace, so seems like the intent is to make even the silly parts of the 02 epilogue true.
I have watched the movie in Germany, if you want i can say if they appear or not
Ur gonna b disappointed
@@sapodeuces I already watched it. It's whatever to me, especially if this is the last time we're seeing the adventure cast before the Epilogue.
It does absolutely nothing besides show what taichi is doing with his new job
Movie was fine but nothing happens in it
Haven't watch it yet, but most reviews are great, which I am super exciting going back to this OG universe.
What an experience hearing the relatively empty theater audibly cringe whenever armadillomon spoke.
Lol yeah that was jarring. Good thing he only spoke for 3 mins of the movie. I dunno how hard it is to get a Texan accent.
oh yeah english dub armadillomon was a huge miss
It sounds like Bandai wanted to make this a proper horror movie for Halloween. I am seeing this on November 9 and looking forward to it.
There was a recent DigiNavi with the cast of the movie and it was shown that the 02 epilogue is still canon so it’s weird that The Beginning seemingly doesn’t wrap things nicely to realign Kizuna with the rest of the continuity. Are we to expect another movie or just assume untold off screen adventures we’ll never see happens?
tbh, I expect them to go forward by ignoring Kizuna because of it's massive continuity problems down the line. And considering a majority of people do not like Kizunas story at all on top of it at all as well I can see them just declaring it out of continuity and move on.
@@EnerKaizer I don't see a continuity problem personally. I viewed the whole plot as they're growing up and figuring out who they are other than being chosen ones. Because of this psychological shifting and self discovery they lost their connections. We have to remember that dark evolutions exist and Digimon are influenced by their partners on an emotional and mental level. The original 8 were literally created or had their data altered to connect them to their human, crests, and Digivice.
I mean then film did have "the beginning" in it's title
Ya it seems that there's a new story in store
*Honest review / no spoilers*
I got to watch it on the 27th in Germany. I was so disappointed and so was the audience (around me). It is a movie about Rui (a new character). The cast of 02 plays little to almost no role in the story which in itself is very simple and filled with loopholes. It will definitely leave you with more questions than answers. The action is scarce. I was shocked when the final battle was over. It literally lasted for one minute. 💔
Omg this is very disheartening. So they didn’t listen to none of the reviews about Tri being completely focused on meicoomon and mei, or even the 2020 adventure which focused too much on Tai. Why won’t they listen to us?!?!😩😩
This is sort of what I was fearing. Instead of tieing up loose ends from previous films/TV series. They introduced new ones. :/
@@kevosaysohoeyou are absolutely right, it felt awful lot like Tri. However, Tri did few things better. Won't mention the to avoid spoiling the movie. 😅
@@minicle426😢
This is how they treat digimon. They can't just grow the garden they have, they just throw more and more flowers in without considering if they even look good together. When i first saw Rui he just looked a like a goth cry baby version of Ken. Black broken digivice, was mean to his partner, has family issues, a loner.
Why couldn't they bring back the other two original digidestined who we don't know or like make him their kid?
I'm so sick and tired of "tragic OC of the week" in Digimon. It was fine 20+ years ago, but then it became one of the reasons Tri was dragged through the mud and Kizuna had this dull, trite trope too. But AGAIN ???? Are they so devoid of imagination that another Wallace/Minami/Meiko/Maki/Menoa token character is all they can come up with ? I'm so through with Digimon Adventure continuations. It all ended with Diaboromon Strikes Back, as far as I'm concerned.
Why blame a 4 year old kid for a wish granted 'the wrong way' by an evil, manipulative villain who's 'misunderstood'??
Super comprehensive and well researched update! Thank you!
Really happy Australia is getting a release, fingers crossed for the UK and Canada.
I just watched it last night with my kids! (Ages 8 and 9)...I did NOT expect it...but yeah it was pretty dark. The drive back was a long convo with them, but it wasn't terrible. They were good, but yeah, I personally liked the moral of the story and the direction they went with it and the retcon didn't feel too forced or bad.
In terms of a digimon movie where it's bombastic it fails, but where it shines is it being a generally feel good emotional movie. I'm sure many ppl can relate to Rui, and how they would want and regret something that he wished for. It's a solid movie if you're not going in expecting a lot of 02 memberberries
I just don’t understand. After 20+ years why the focus on new characters?? Who cares?? Why not just build up the characters we already know and love and haven’t seen in almost thirty years!? Just mind boggling to me.
In their Defense a lot of these anime films for long running series revolve around a new character (Willis, Mennoa, Uta in One Piece, Broly in DBS…that way you can have a full character arc in the span of your film. Whereas characters like David and Ken have already “completed” their character arcs in their respective shows
I thought this would be the last film and that it would connect Kizuna to the epilogue of 02. Well, as the film doesn't connect to the epilogue of 02, it's more than obvious that Toei did it on purpose so that it would have the justification to do at least another film. The film could be a retcon, but we will have to wait for the new film to say whether it is a good retcon or a bad retcon. For people who want a cohesive work, the retcon ruins the experience. On the other hand, retcons can improve something. The question that remains unanswered: is the film necessary? We don't know if the events of this film don't influence the next film or the return of the Digimon. Yes, it is unnecessary and could only be for one season or not exist at all but now if the next film has a connection with this one, then it could be necessary to bring the digimon back.
While it doesn't recycle the foreshadowing of Kizuna, the events at the end of The Beginning are clearly a key point for the future return of all digimon.
Honestly, it's my least favorite Digimon movie thus far.
Too bad there were no Blackwargreymon references
I hated Kizuna’s ending. Yes sometime in your life the dream of living in an imaginary world ends, but it also implied adults have no dream, which is not true at all giving it’s the adults created these imaginary world for the kids, this was kind of going against the premise of the 02’s ending.
I haven’t got chance to watch the movie yet, and I guess I won’t be enjoy this film too much.
In Japan, many believe an adult’s life must be based around duty, and not dreams.
I haven't been keeping up with reboots, just checking in with new series like Ghost Game. But this makes me interested in this movie; I've always thought Digimon had far better potential to tackle more dark or mature topics than some other series, and I would be interested to see if this one does that.
Watched the movie twice already, cause I had to get them cards, and I gotta say those twitter reviews do not reflect what most people think.
The new lore and retcon seems way too out of place and "too convenient" (that's what one guy meant by cheap actually) and the movie had almost no action, which for Digimon content it makes no sense, even if you want to make a more adult movie. Pace of the movie is also weird as it seems to start already mid story and then most of it is just going down memory lane, but not in a good kind of way where they go "10 hours before" and explain the whole situation, no, movie keeps on going forward and telling what it wants to tell but with no real set up.
To me it felt overall that the movie should have been released as a TV Special instead as I felt it was not really worth a theatrical release and while I don't think it was bad overall, it was okaish and kind of a minor dissapointment.
These reviews make me more intrigued to see the movie... Provided it's able to have a screening in Ireland.
Fingers crossed, cant get it in England from what i know
@@hyperslash2144 if we're lucky, maybe AllTheAnime could do something for a UK screening.
I know that they helped get a UK screening for Kizuna in late 2021, when the Covid outbreaks eased up a bit.
well... This movie feels again like the people in charge of Digimon at Toei are devided, and it shows in the end result.
It almost feels like this was supposed to be a story ONLY about Rui, but whoever was in charge demanded the 02 cast to be in this movie in some starring role, which basically resulted in a half baked mess and explains the absolute tonal whiplash mentioned in the reviews.
This is almost modern Spider-Man comics level of creative dissonance here. They didn't feel confident with whatever new they wanted originally to do, and, in order to feel at least save, wrapped this all up in something we already knew and then discarded it the moment people bought their tickets. Have already seen many people who felt cheated by the advertising of The beginning.
Hope the next movie if there is one the include new forms and Megas. It such a disappointment. Kizuna got new forms tri gave new megas and forms
It was trash, enough said
In my mind, this movie is non-canon
can someone that already watched the movie tell me if there is any scene of takeru hikari moments haha. more than 10 years die hard fan of takari here
I already got my ticket preordered for the November 8th
Tbh with myself digimon was always dark especially with digimon tamer,ghost game and how if I remember correctly in the original digimon anime miyotismon did subtly killed a woman
And taichi acting like an abusive parent to agumon, causing skull greymon to be a thing
And the loss of wizardmon actually weighing down on tailmon for a time
Not to mention all the other series, each getting more open about their seriousness. Tamers having a very bleak depiction of a depressed child dealing with grief, a depiction of takato pushing guilmon to be evil against his will again. People treating their digimon partners awfully is a recurring theme in digimon and it's always treated as a serious thing.
Heck, frontier even had a lot of seriousness to it, even if it takes ages to show up in full
I couldn’t be anymore happy that not only digimon adventure continue even after the finale of last evolution movie but new focus on 02 casts finally after long overdue ignored disregarded and overlooked in digimon adventure tri and small role in last evolution now at last 02 casts has finally had bigger and more important roles and spotlights they rightfully deserved
So the movie is dark without a lot of action?
Great. The two things I was hoping the movie wouldn't be. I'm so sick of Digimon being melodramatic, talky, and unfun.
Yeah it won't appeal to everyone. I am kind of surprised at how much Digimon has focused on horror / darkness the last few years with Survive, Ghost Game, and now 02 The Beginning. I wonder if it was intentional, like a mandate to make Digimon darker, or total coincidence? Since Survive was in development years before Ghost Game was even an idea
The Digimon franchise has won over many fans precisely because it has heavier themes and is darker than its competitors. Personally, as I'm a big fan of horror, I really like this style that Digimon has been doing recently. As for the film being more of a story than a fight, I don't see any problem. As long as the story is good and engaging. I think it doesn't take much fighting to make an interesting film. Not to mention that it's just a film, I don't think it's necessary for them to introduce ''unnecessary'' fights just so people don't complain about ''there's not enough fighting''. Last but not least, the reboot is totally the opposite of this film because it has a lot of fights, some of which are even unnecessary, but the plot is complete rubbish. So much so that for me, the reboot is the worst season ever.
I'm a long term fan and like the darkness they're exploring. There's plenty of light with the morals to be learned with each series. Plus a lot of veteran fans are longing for more mature looks at the series. I can definitely speak for myself. Hyped for the movie!
They trying to retell tamers psychological themes
Watched it in theatre last night.
1. It contradicts the lore setup in 01 and 02.
2. The movie itself was just bad, as the majority of the film is just the characters standing around talking about origin stuff. Was so boring.
3. The movie is so dark. My kids love digimon (9 and 6). The movie turned into a horror movie halfway through and scarred my children. My kids threw their digimon stuffies away the moment we got home (they have life-sized rookie level digimon Agumon, Lopmon and Terriermon) and don't want to ever watch any digimon stuff ever again. I was about to show them Tamers next...
4. Feels like a fan fiction.
So in the end, avoid. Especially if you have children.
That's so sad about point 3 :(
@@thedigiknow Yeah. I am kind of heartbroken. Digimon was something I could bond over with my kids. They loved it more than Pokemon.
On the drive there, holding their stuffed digimon rookies and my oldest wearing her tag and crest of light. My youngest was asking for their own tag and crest of courage. During the opening ads, they saw digimon cards and begged me for those, saying how they dont like pokemon cards anymore but want digimon cards. They show all their friends digimon (many just learning it for the first time).
When we left, my oldest was in tears and threw her tag and crest. I had to go get it (it was expensive). When we got home, neither slept with their digimon stuffies (which they normally do). My youngest asked to watch PBS kids shows to help him not think about the movie. Had to let him fall asleep watching cause the movie was on his mind so much. Neither kid wants digimon cards anymore, either.
If they were going to make a digimon for only the adult fans, then this should have had a rating or warning.
No Armour Digimon means no Break Up remix I guess.
so it's bad
I really enjoyed the movie-it had a darker tone, an intriguing story, and let's be honest, it's clearly aimed at a more mature, older audience. You can't expect it to play out like a children's show, and I feel like that's where most of the negative reviews are coming from.
Revenge of Diaboromon was a great ending the Adventure. I was ok wity tri bring back the gang, though the big bad was completely lack luster. Didnt care for last evo. Hopefully i can just enjoy the show for this movie
I love psychological horror and serious Digimon stories, so this sounds like it’s for me!
Damn I’m really sad it’s not going to be in theatres in Canada
My guess is that the ending will be just be similar to Kizuna, in that it will essentially strongly imply another story needing to take place between this and the epilogue.
I watching The 02 movie and it wasn’t good. I might have watched digimon dub but I found a lot things that contradicts the anime 01 and 02 as well as Tri. I also found that the Digimon won’t used that much. And that the world tour digi we’re just used as background.
Just saw it. It was alright, darker than I anticipated. Kind of wish I just waited for streaming on this one. Armadillomon’s dub voice was god awful cringed everytime.
i have a theater near me showing it soon so i'm eagerly waiting my work schedule to see if i can make it!
Only thing I’d really be interested in is some form of Tamers Continuation.
2 minutes in. Wasn't the point of Kizuna that the digi destined needed to stand on their own two feet, deal with the adult world without a digimon cheerleader/baby in the back of their head.
Resulting in the eventual return of their digimon partners when the digi destined begin to settle down. Or when they've lost their way due to adulting. Aka. Tai is being ensnared by dubious political machination, which he himself plays into, maybe losing himself in alcohol and struggling to keep his relationship going with his pregnant wife/girlfriend/mistress. Exactly when he needs a reminder of whom he really is... a reminder of the bravery inside of him. Maybe with in a larger context of a whole host of kids having been swept away by the digital world, bringing with them a more diverse aray of stuff. Like abusive parents, drug abuse, etc... which then encurs the wrath of the digital world and love as new digimon get born from it. Resulting in a need for actual communications between the human and digital world and a police force to police the digtial world which has been corrupted by humans, underlying the almost symbiotic nature of both worlds.
To put it as you put it. If Kizunas message felt like screaming to us older fans to "GROW UP!" future projects could add to that message of "But don't forget" aka. to act in accordance of how your younger self would view you as you are now. In short that child in us which we might deem unnecessary, even as something to be ashamed of is what keeps us honest and grounds us.
And that is my head cannon.
Basically maturing the franchise called digimon, while not at the same time dick riding that to oblivion. I remember a 02 movie where in the old digi destined gave up and lost the will to fight, while the younger ones didn't and in the end the younger ones saved the day or rather wielded omnimon as a sword to defeat that weird spider mon form "our war game". Jaded adult tai that lost his way get's reminded of agumon that ther is always a way and to keep fighting. And I don't want it to be quick no I want it to be a struggle. Over the course of of a year.
As the message of digimon was growth and understanding your emotions and the emotions of others. And do not give up.
I’ll be honest here. The new movie was amazing. There were a few things I was disappointed about ofc because of certain things (not saying bc spoilers) but watching this movie felt like I was watching Madoka Magica. I’ll leave it at that
I love Daisukes passion for ramen 😍😍 he is soo cute ❤ I am happy that he doesn't change because he is perfect the way he is ❤
Saw it opening night, no spoilers. It was really bad and did not help the digimon franchise.
The movie was pleasantly average imo. I liked the movie overall, thought the new kid's story was a little boring. I wished there was more 02 cast moments. Also why did they go to the past and show Tai and Kari? There seemed to be pretty much no point to that flashback. I really enjoyed the moments with the kids just hanging out together in Davis' ramen shop where him and Veemon are making the food 😂
I watched it. The movie felt like a lot of content has been cut from it. its short and felt empty. Very boring movie
I watched the Dub last night! It was definitely fun to finally see a Digimon film in theaters. I had a ticket for Kizuna in theaters, but COVID hit and that screening got canceled. I can't wait for your review and thoughts.
Overall, I liked it wayyyy more than Kizuna. Kizuna is a weird case where I need to revisit it, but I am very much in the camp of "Bad writing, emotional bait movie." That could change with a rewatch.
I definitely agree with some of the reviews that The Beginning is a darker film, some Ghost Game/Survive edge thrown in there. I liked the themes and everything even if I do think it suffers the issue of focusing on a new character like Tri and Kizuna. Though I would say Rui/"Louie" is my favorite of that bunch.
I really recommend you watch some fansubs for Kizuna, the language used for that movie was extremely subtle, like a lot of the meaning hinging on the different meanings of Destiny (Unmei) and Fate (Shukumei) in japanese, which the dub team ran through like a bulldozer, amongst other stuff they just didn't get.
I'm from Poland, Digimon translations were stopped on episode 16 of Digimon Adventure Tri, a dozen or so episodes of Digimon Advedture 2020 were still translated. The first Digimon series was broadcast on Polish television, that's when I watched the anime for the first time, even though I didn't know about the existence of anime, I immediately loved it. I liked it compared to stupid western cartoons.
You shouldn't be afraid of spoilers if a given title is good and if someone learns its story prematurely, they will still have fun at the screening even though they know what will happen. A good title will speak for itself, you could make half the episode without spoilers and the next half with spoilers, or a separate episode with spoilers. I have more important problems in life than spoilers from works that I will never have time for, after all, there are so many of them
I miss the Polish translation of Digimon Ghost Game, but I'm too lazy to learn English, and I don't learn English because I prefer to use my native language so that the language doesn't become extinct.
I’m still excited for the film. I miss the armor Digimon though.
I didn't know English Dub was only one day in my area, and tomorrow everyone doing the Japanese dub. IDK if I want to go since I grew up on the English dub
Just got out of the movie theater, movie was ok, but I didn't like how the whole thing was focuses on a new character.
I always kept debating about the Last Kizuna ending. Genai did say, Eng Dub, unless Tai and Matt had some potential locked away, their ties would be severed. Perhaps at some point their potential manifested.
The only thing that Genai meant is their potential as digidestined aka ppl called upon to bring peace to the world and use a digivice to force evolution. Humans can still coexist with Digimon, that's the entire reason Tai is submitting a thesis to go into politics at the end of the movie.
The adults in the 02 epilogue aren't chosen anymore that's the role of the next generation. To analyze it on a meta level, Kizuna is about the inevitability of growing up but ties into 02 to say "you can still hold onto what you loved as a kid as an adult, you just have to reevaluate the importance it holds on your life."
When I read the comments I feel that we as digimon fans are so desperate for anything that we will accept just about anything.
Just finished my screening and hate to say I don’t like it at all. The idea of this movie is way too trivial and too similar to “Last Evolution”. The introduction of new character also seemed forced. Though it’s not as bad as tri, I still think there are a lot of improvements needs to be made. Thanks for the video though!
I really didn't like this one. The first half of the movie is really fucked up and the second is boring power of friendship solves everything with barely any action in the movie. I really hate how every movie introduces a new character that retcons a whole bunch of stuff and takes up the majority of the movie, especially when this one was barely over an hour
I plan on taking my two children (ages 4 and 7) to see the movie next week, I'm really worried that since it apparently has a darker tone and some scenes of potential abuse/horror that it'll be too much for my young ones. I really really hope its still appropriate for the youngest of viewers. Thanks for sharing.
Oh yeah hmm…that’s a little concerning based on that one Japanese fan’s tweet about abuse 🤔 tough to say but your call ultimately !
The spoilers on with the will sound very intense and as a 30s adult I am debating whether I am going to see it in theaters or wait til it comes out and fast-forward through certain scenes. If the spoilers are correct it might get an R rating.
@@melaniepage7321 oh my god thanks for bringing this to my attention, I looked it up and confirmed that indeed the scene in question really does sound like way too much for both of my kids. I will be trying to get my money back on those movie tickets!
I don’t recommend it at all for children. Even I in my 20s was shocked with the graphic scenes as that’s something l did not sign up for. But that’s not to say the movie was bad though.
There was a chatty little girl sitting behind me at my showing last night and she didn't seem to bothered by it. But each child is different so it really depends on your own children.
As a hardcore Digimon fan, I thought the ending was fine but it pissed me off last evolution was so good in comparison and made me feel emotional. Then ending of this movie felt flat and without spoiling anything there is literally less then three minutes of fighting... I loved 02 growing up, I play the new card game now and I am investing my time in a series that I love. This just felt like a slap in the face to long time fans.
Wasn't able to watch it theaters but I'll likely buy it on disk.
Glad to have the heads up from this review though.
That's the issue with anything regarding Adventure 01 and 02. They act like both seasons are their own comtinuity when they should be an extension of each other.
When will they understand that we don’t want heavy sad stories about the main characters going through pain and loss? We want to see the characters come back and have fun and cool interactions! We want good stories! We want to see the characters and digimon have fun interactions, not being told the entire time about how shitty their bond is now. They have completely forgotten what fans want to see
In short, this was probably the worst Digimon movie they've put out. I hope this doesn't kill Digimon, that we can get a movie to set things right soon (somehow).
Im in canada and im sad not to see it in theaters
It was aight, the story is basically an arc like a TV show. Besides that the evolutions and the art is obviously updated. It looked lit, but it was pretty boring.
I actually hated it. No fights, no new evolutions, creepy. Focused waaaay too much on the "deep" emotional stuff instead of what digimon is all about. They really need to picka lane. Either theyre catering to the kids/tiktok crowd or theyre catering to the nostalgia and the adults with the deep drama. The ending sucked. Just over all completely underwhelming! I wish they would focus on better stuff.
My review will be out on Sunday but I feel similarly. This was a miss for me.
I get that the balance overall was positive, but I don't know how to feel about these "shifts"... Digimon lore has always ben kinda MESSY for me tbh. I'm going to theater since it's confirmed here in Brazil already 🙏🏼
Digimon lore has always been messy, largely because the lore isn't the point. Digimon adventure and digimon fusion are really the only 2 series to get another series set in the same continuity, everything else is in its own universe, completely seperate for a reason. Digimon has always been about the characters, so if the lore shifts, as long as it helps tell the characters' stories, it's all fine, the lore is basically just guesswork and theories in-universe anyways
In still excited to see the film. I'm ready for a more grounded and mature 02 Cast. Let's GO!!
How many "First Digidestined" characters are there...
As someone that already saw the movie .... well the animation is good, the story as a stand alone is good but as a part of a series is bad like BAD BAD if you are a fan that can put aside its nostalgia and watch it be prepared for a story worst than tri and with bigger retcons than kizuna , but if you are a fan that is just happy to see a new digimon movie you will like it .
Aaaand I'm gonna skip this video for now since i haven't seen the movie yet see you in a couple of weeks
Hi! Just so you know, there are zero spoilers in this video. But still I respect and understand your decision to skip this one. Just wanted to clarify!! :)
I just watched out of fear of being spoiled too and I must say it was very refreshing and spoiler free. It was selected reviews sharing that they like, dislike or have confusion towards how their experience was.
I have too many thoughts to properly place them here. Gave me some Chiaki J. Konaka vibes though so that was pretty cool.
Hope next movie more fighting scene like , 50% or 48% fighting scene 🙏 😢
Anyone think there could an 02 reboot after this movie
They gaslit the ish outta Louie. He was 4 then 8 how is he supposed to understand the power of a god! He had so much trauma and they were like yeaaa say sorry
I really did not like the film. It was fun hearing people reprise some of the roles. I wish they had a voice that was closer to original Armadillomon. It really fell flat.
Watched it last night, definitely a different style of digifilm, but I enjoyed returning to these characters
I think i woukd only watch the next movie of Diaboromon is involved and we finally get a new higher level of Digimon
Just saw it and I agree. It does whatever it wants and retcons all of digimon for an new edgelord character. Wasn’t a fan at all of this one as the cast cannot carry any story it seems xD. It has a nice theme but it’s just not done well.
I like how the trailers to this movie on youtube are being set to the kids setting, not allowing comments and encouring me to get the youtube kids app 😂
Just got back from the film today and it’s a solid 7/10.