Love the video, one correction though. The Troubles were not about religion, It was about the crown maintaining some sort of grasp on the island. Religion was used by the British to keep the Irish people bickering amongst themselves while the crown tired to maintain control.
@TheWanderingIrishman. Good to hear from you! As always, we learn more from comments than we do from some of our research 👍 Thank you for commenting. History has produced some bad actions!
In reality religion absolutely played a part. Northern Ireland was set up in 1920 and saw itself as a Protestant state for Protestant people. Meanwhile, the Irish State had a constitution acknowledging a special role for the Catholic church. These two facts were crucial to the history of the troubles. It is the reason Northern Ireland wanted partition. Ask anyone from Northern Ireland, and they are likely to tell you they were marked out as one or the other as soon as they put on a school uniform. It is interesting to speculate what would have happened if the planters had been the same religion as the natives, gone to the same schools and churches, Things would have developed very differently. Differences could have vanished as they did in Britain between the Danes and the English when the Danish settlers adopted Christianity.
@@sean_d And both are Christian religions! To be fair to religion, it's ability to divide and make good people do terrible things, even to others of just a different denomination within the same belief, is unequalled. People being killed because their interpretation of a 2,000 year old book is a little bit different than the killer's interpretation. It's just madness.
As an irish person, it never fails to Surprise me when Americans think Irish food is poor or bad. Our food is not as processed as American food. Sugar is not an additive in Irish food , and neither is growth hormones. Both of which are commonly used in America. Our meat and beef is mainly grass fed, unlike America where cattle are fed pellet food. Glad u enjoyed your holiday in Ireland.
@eireman51. It never fails. When someone starts with the best ingredients and the right amount of seasonings , the results are usually great meals 😀 We’re just trying to spread the word about Irish food. A lot of Americans may have eaten poorly prepared Irish food at a St. Patrick’s Day celebration which gave them the wrong idea about it. When we return in September we plan to order all of our favorites. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@3storiesUp. Thank you watching and commenting. We got so lucky with the weather!! A little rain here and there but nothing to complain about. Yes, we enjoyed our holiday very much 😀
You said you climbed Errigal? Wow, that's splendid you made it up to Donegal. Mostly, good advice in the clip. Maybe do one for Irish visiting America? - the Telly and films are not like real life America - especially in the Southern parts.
@freedomsaoirse Mt Errigal was stunning! Here's a link to our video on that... ua-cam.com/video/rw69RvMXmFE/v-deo.htmlsi=8ms3GQjyLoksYyBK What are your impressions of America, based on films and telly? We're very curious! Because our country is so large, there are very large differences in geographic areas of the country. We have some videos on our channel showing the southeastern US (Asheville, NC) and some of the rural Midwest (Parke County Covered Bridge Fest). We'd be interested to know what you think about them! Thanks so much for watching and commenting! 🙂💚❤
Hi a few comments People in the south.ie republic refer to northern Ireland as the north It is always Derry never londonderry Very few would eat traditional meals like Stew or Cabbage and potatoes was from a poorer time. Food in Ireland is now very good and international. Independent coffee shops and bakeries in all towns usually also catering for food allergies. Our supermarkets are very good and multipacks are a much cheaper option for chocolate bars etc.
@brianfagan3367. Thanks for joining the conversation! We also had a few comments regarding the term “southern Ireland “. We were referring to the part of the Republic that we hadn’t visited. It was suggested that we name the counties we were visiting to save any confusion. I understand what you’re saying about traditional meals. That type of meal was always best around a table with the family. We’ve eaten many types of world cuisine and I’ve seen many of them represented in Ireland. We even saw American barbecue. I’d like to check out a supermarket in Ireland. Thanks for the tip 😀👍✌ Glad you watched and commented.
Would have to disagree about the food. I grew up on a diet of stews, bacon and cabbage, soda bread, fry ups, colcannon, you name it - and im only 22. Differs everywhere, we're a crowd of farmers from the countryside, could be a different story in towns qnd cities. of course we ate pasta, rice, curries and all the rest too, but the "traditional" stuff isnt as dead as people may think!
@@elll2184 Very glad you commented! Chris’s grandparents could stretch a half pound of beef or pork by making soups or stews by adding cabbage, turnips or potatoes etc from their garden. Egg noodles ( Amish style ) is still a comfort food favorite. Beans also played a big part. Our favorite “ethnic “ food was our Americanized version of Italian 😂 It’s great to know food options in Ireland are many but it’s good news that the “traditional” stuff isn’t dead!! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍😀
@UdanKhatola_dream. Thanks so much for your comment 😀 What part of the country did you move to? Hoping that you enjoy your new home!! 👍😀✌ Thank you for watching!
When you talked about food you said you can get other dishes like Thai, Indian etc. In the bigger cities.. You can get these in any small village in Ireland. I live in a small village and we have 2 Chinese takeaways, 2 Indian takeaways, a restaurant that does morroccan/Portuguese /Greek style food and Italian restaurants.. This is in most places in the country
@denise159. Thanks, that’s very good to know! Chris really enjoys spicy foods! Sometimes it’s a good idea to switch things up a bit. Since we’re going to be in Ireland though, we’ll probably look for the specialty of the town or village we’re in 😀 The Moroccan food however, sounds like something I need to try 👍 Thanks for watching and joining the conversation!!
Irish woman here, There is NO country called northern Ireland., it simply does not exist. I live in Belfast and the 6 counties are part of the country , just like my passport says, I am an Irish citizen, we find tourist's claiming otherwise, very offensive tbh. The " troubles ", had nothing to do with Religion, and everything to do with Politics, infact the United Orishmen were Presbyterian ! In the 6 counties the majority are now the Catholics/ Nationalist.
Some were Presbyterian, some were church or Ireland or or different nonconformist other were enlightenment thinkers and religion wasn't a big part of their identity. The reasons for protestants joining were varied, The penal laws also affected non-conformist and the split between Covenanters and non-Covenanters let to more radical factions within Presbyterianism, when these laws improved for non conformists support for revolt died down. Also many old landowner preferred having the Irish parliament with Anglo-Irish landowners rather then direct rule favoured by newer industrialist. This is a different kind of nationalism as Yeast coined as "romantic" nationalism, and also the initial ideal to have a secular state by both socialist and old school liberals, was overtaken by those that wanted a state religion (social conservatives), a tide that only recently been reversed in the South. Obviously religion plays a part because it was weaponized for loyalty, and to that is the history, and also both side established a state religion, even if the non-conformist argue on if they can bring into line with the presbytery or simply want to coexist. Quakers kind of get forgotten about too. Religious freedom for me but not for ye, was basically what happened when some of these group went to America. The Industrialisation of the north was largely why unionism survived and why it is dying. The majority are around 2% more catholic whether the majority are nationalist remains to be seen the largest party in the assembly is nationalist but the biggest block is not, with MPs is similar. Also where you place Alliance matters, many Irish nationalist would consider Alliance with its root in progressive unionism more toward the status quo albeit progressive or would be suspicious of them. It is likely going towards nationalism or more likely a more progressive republicanism like in the south. There is zero interest in one party state or a politburo in the south, even if some fringe groups in the north would have you believe this how it will roll. There is appetite for left wing parties but int he context of a multi-party state, and the south is broadly laissez-faire on the local level. I'm a secular republican, I will never be an etho-nationalist.
@ShoJ369. Thanks for watching and commenting on this. We do the best research we can and sometimes we don’t explain thoroughly enough (the religion part) what we intended. Every comment we get from viewers educates us a little more and we appreciate that people take the time to share their thoughts 😀👍✌
@@paulthomas8262 Thanks for watching and taking the time to share this. Well done! You seem to have a deep understanding of this subject. Do you teach (professor) ? Thanks again!
@@elll2184 I don't know what you referring to back then the concept of unification didn't exist because there was no partition the whole of Ireland was under British rule. Obviously the plantation in the North were more established but there were other plantations historically, but that was less reflected in eh demographics. Obviously the rebellion happen in Wexford which is in the south. But it was meant to join up with the north but than never happened because of communication issues. I never said there was no protestant interested in in full independence I'm merely pointing out there was lot of different idea of Independence and different motivations. when people say "how times have changed" the reason why that changed is industrialisation of the north and also bringing nonconformist into the power structure after to brutally putting down dissent. You don't have to like it but it is history. Even from the 1920s. Independent Ireland very nearly was secular nation from the start. There was the romantic nationalist like Yeats , also socialists, but religious conservative and the church had more influence. Ireland secularism started it the late 70s and only really got going in the late 80s and 90s. There was also rebels in country down in and the Ards peninsular their own communities hunted them down. What differentiated these groups? well one reason was actual a religious disagreement within Presbyterian and how this related to the established Church and crown and previous history of in Scotland. Bare in mind the concept of a modern nation was a very new one. Wolf Tone spent a lot of time in France with Republican forces.
In Dublin, it is completely walkable. There are also LUAS (trollies), which will take you away from downtown. If you want to ride the LUAS or buses, buy a LEAP CARD. It is well worth it throughout the Republic. While in Ireland, in 1978, I often asked opinions of the Irish about several subjects, including 'THE TROUBLES'. I never expressed any opinions, I just asked questions. I appeared to be well received. But it is VERY touchy.
@donavanfoto3263. We plan to use some of the public transport in Dublin this trip 😀 We really enjoyed walking in Dublin though. Haven’t looked up LUAS yet I’m going to check that out. Thanks! The whole history of Ireland still remains a tough subject for a lot of people. We tried to listen more than talk during those conversations. Thanks again for watching and commenting 😀👍
@@thissecondhalfadventure : The LUAS are light rail electric trains (trollies) that will take you several places in and out of town. In the Jarvis section of downtown is the National Leprechaun Museum. It is directly across from the LUAS. Howth has a nice Seaside view. Donnybrook is accessible by bus and has RTE (Irish version of BBC). I lived there in 1978 for two months.
As an Irish person in my mid 50s I can confirm that food was terrible back in the 70s and 80s. However, since then there has been a growth in the appreciation of Irish ingredients. Irish meat and fish are now world renowned for its quality and consistency
@mgreengiant. Ha! That must’ve been the reason for the bad reputation. 😀 We agree, even the dairy products are getting recognition. Thanks for watching and commenting! 😀👍
@donstravelsandrants. Thanks Don! Ha 😀! Being Irish, shouldn’t you be exempt from scrutiny? 😀 Lots of Americans certainly travel to Ireland. There’s always a few that act like an eejit 😀 Thanks!
Hello again , The last time we made contact i said that some of my family would be in the U S for the month of July , Well they have just left Colorado heading for / New Mexico /Arizona /Nevada and finely California they are having a fabulous time driving in beautiful country side in a Chevy Camaro ,Good to be young just like the two of You , Your advice is excellent rural Ireland is better value for money the southern parts / Kerry [ my backyard] Cork are a little Expensive , Galway / Mayo /Sligo/ Donegal better value and less traffic ,Take care ,[ North west Indiana] hope to see you soon,☘☘☘☘☘
@johnburns6422. Hello from the two Hoosiers! Like we said before, what a great adventure they must be having! Hopefully they can stand up to the heat out there. Record heat especially in Vegas. Safe travels to them! 😀We’re only as young as we feel and we feel pretty good right now 😀 Rural parts of Ireland are the best for us. Feel pretty comfortable there. By the way, I can’t think of a better way to drive around the western USA than in a Camaro!!!
@@thissecondhalfadventure Hello and thank you for your reply , Yes my two sons and grandson are having a fantastic holiday in Roasting Hot weather the photos of some of the places are beautiful , As for the summer here it is Cold / Wet and Wendy [ Global Warming Not In Ireland ] this country is too small , Wonderful to see you i,ll keep looking out for the two of you , God Bless Take Care ☘☘☘☘☘.
Good list but i would have don't say that ireland is in the UK or british even in northern ireland you alluded to that in various ways but it needed to be clearer and more specific.I would also had don't assume that american preception of irish culture is accurate,like leprechauns and 4 leaf clover or mix up scottish and irish culture though very similar certain things are not applicable if you see somebody wearing a kilt thats a scotsman over for a wedding or sports event its not common for an irishman to wear a kilt and bagpipes are more of scots thing though its an important instrument here aswell ,the Uilleann pipes are more iconic to irish culture. If anyone wants to see a local sports event i would recommend Gaelic Football and hurling our native sports or rugby not club soccer as england or mainland europe is better place as most people here support Premier league clubs in england as a result stadiums and crowds are small not withstanding greater local interest ,the facilities are not up to scratch yet. Never mention religion or politics that is true ,but its more important in the North than the republic,because they have cues to tell us what side of the fence somebody is politically that outsiders would not be aware of .Even as a southerner i would know that somebody named reginald would not be in favour of a united ireland he could be but generally he won't and on the otherside a lady called sorcha or saoirse is probably not going to be into the British royal family other than as celebrities,but not regard them as their sovereign.However its not something i would bother learning just don't bring it up.
@Joseph13163. Thanks for your comments 👍 I would say, Ireland obviously has a lot more history to dissect than the USA. Speaking for myself only, every time I think I understand a little more about the history I find out more. Always more layers get peeled back. It’s a lot to absorb 😀 We tried to tell American viewers to learn a few things about Irish history to save themselves from some embarrassing situations. Chicago Police Dept has a bagpipe represent them at special events and parades. Most Americans haven’t heard of Uilleann pipes. Several musicians we know were already familiar with them however. We were hoping to see Gaelic football or hurling but the season will be over ☹ We’re talking about a hurling (basic) class instead. My buddies will get a laugh out of watching me flail around. Did enjoy the rugby World Cup, to the final game. The last part sounds like another layer😀 Enjoyed your comments. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching and commenting! What is considered the boundary for the "city center"? And what would you recommend to visiting Americans outside the city center yet still in Dublin? Thanks so much for tolerating our questions! 🙂❤
A few things that occurred to me- 1. Patty is the diminutive of Patricia; 2. In the 2022 Census 69% of people ticked the Catholic option on the Census form even though many admitted afterwards that they’re non-practicing but just automatically ticked that box; 3. the Troubles in Northern Ireland were political not religious-people who’d like a ‘united Ireland’ and those who wish for Northern Ireland to remain part of the UK.
@@nigelmchugh5541 I was at school and worked with girls/women named Patricia who were usually called Pat or Patty. Not so much nowadays as there aren’t that many Patricias around anyway.
@Granuaile1. Loved the use of ‘diminutive’ ! I agree with you. #2. That seems similar to things I’ve heard in the U.S. Very interesting. #3. That has been pointed out to us👍. We should have explained that a little better 😀 Thanks for watching and adding to the conversation!!
@@nigelmchugh5541 Thanks for sharing that with us! It’s one of those terms we just grew up with. If it’s shaped like a patty, it seems like people will call it a patty no matter what is😂 Thanks again!
😅 it's very traditional to the Irish to wear a tie and a cold at night when they go out and Americans should respect that and try to address the same as the Irish when they are in Ireland
@gulayguthre9939. My apologies! We try to answer every comment in a timely manner. I think the tradition is great! Bar/Pub culture is different in the US . The old saying was ‘No shirt, no shoes, no service’ . 😂. If the establishment requires a tie or a jacket people will dress appropriately. Some Americans will always dress up for an evening. The majority probably won’t. If our attire didn’t meet the standard of the business we wouldn’t demand to be seated. We would just move on to the next place. It almost seems, here in the U.S., the reasons to wear a tie are Work, a wedding or a funeral 😀. Thanks again for watching 👍✌😀
@raymonddixon7603. Seems like a lot of people in the U.S. have strayed away from organized religion as well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and thanks for watching.
@@thissecondhalfadventure Thanks. Just an after thought. Strangely enough people come to Ireland because of the cuisine. It has gained a reputation among Europeans.
@paulobrien6919 If you're talking the official name of the day, in English, then yeah, but it is often referred to as Paddy's Day. I'm not sure if I've heard of it as Saint Paddy's Day, maybe rarely. But really it's just those two.
Yes British nationalism was terrible for a lot of the world but no where more so than Ireland. Im glad you mentioned that about the British and their disgusting form of nationalism
There is no such country of Northern Ireland. It’s six counties of the nine counties that make up the province of Ulster. It’s never been recognized as a country. It doesn’t even have its own flag. People in the six counties can choose what passport they want British or Irish
@jgg59. We know about the six counties and we know about the province of Ulster. But we’re confused about NI not being a country. We just found out the passport choice. Thanks for comments.
@gulayguthre9939. Thanks for commenting. If we go out in the evening we’ll usually have nicer clothes to wear but sometimes it’s a situational decision. If we meet friends to watch a sporting event we probably won’t dress up much. If it’s a special dinner or get together we’ll dress appropriately 😀 Overall though, Americans dress very casually. My only defense would be travelers have limited suitcase space to pack enough clothing. That’s the only excuse I have😂 Glad you brought that up! Thanks for watching.
Ah, its not so much an American thing as it is a tourist thing. I work in a bar constantly thronged with tourists, lots of americans in comfy casual gear, but plenty of germans, french, spanish people too, in hiking boots, rainjackets, leggings etc. Not typical pub wear but sure whos looking. We only bar anyone wearing tracksuit bottoms. Having said that, I can always spot an American wearing their signature baseball caps. Dont think ive ever seen an Irishman wearing one out and about! 😂
@@elll2184 We really enjoy your perspective 😀. We met several European tourists and they were dressed similarly to us in Ireland. Usually jeans and a pullover sweater. I can promise we didn’t wear tracksuit bottoms 😂 Yes, we’re guilty as charged!! The baseball cap is a staple in my casual wardrobe (Chris). I can’t speak for others, but my baseball cap keeps the top of my head from getting sunburned 😂 . We saw a lot of sunshine last trip 😀. Thanks again!
@kathrynboyd4448. Agreed! Americans, however, tend to shorten or abbreviate a lot of names and titles. I even saw a couple of local businesses with signs on their doors that said “Come celebrate SPD with us”.
Love the video, one correction though. The Troubles were not about religion, It was about the crown maintaining some sort of grasp on the island. Religion was used by the British to keep the Irish people bickering amongst themselves while the crown tired to maintain control.
@TheWanderingIrishman. Good to hear from you!
As always, we learn more from comments than we do from some of our research 👍 Thank you for commenting. History has produced some bad actions!
@@thissecondhalfadventurethat was lovely 🌹... God bless 💚
In reality religion absolutely played a part. Northern Ireland was set up in 1920 and saw itself as a Protestant state for Protestant people. Meanwhile, the Irish State had a constitution acknowledging a special role for the Catholic church. These two facts were crucial to the history of the troubles. It is the reason Northern Ireland wanted partition. Ask anyone from Northern Ireland, and they are likely to tell you they were marked out as one or the other as soon as they put on a school uniform. It is interesting to speculate what would have happened if the planters had been the same religion as the natives, gone to the same schools and churches, Things would have developed very differently. Differences could have vanished as they did in Britain between the Danes and the English when the Danish settlers adopted Christianity.
@@sean_d And both are Christian religions!
To be fair to religion, it's ability to divide and make good people do terrible things, even to others of just a different denomination within the same belief, is unequalled.
People being killed because their interpretation of a 2,000 year old book is a little bit different than the killer's interpretation. It's just madness.
@@heffo67 true, but the cultures who were athiestic killed far more
As an irish person, it never fails to Surprise me when Americans think Irish food is poor or bad. Our food is not as processed as American food. Sugar is not an additive in Irish food , and neither is growth hormones. Both of which are commonly used in America. Our meat and beef is mainly grass fed, unlike America where cattle are fed pellet food. Glad u enjoyed your holiday in Ireland.
@eireman51. It never fails. When someone starts with the best ingredients and the right amount of seasonings , the results are usually great meals 😀
We’re just trying to spread the word about Irish food. A lot of Americans may have eaten poorly prepared Irish food at a St. Patrick’s Day celebration which gave them the wrong idea about it.
When we return in September we plan to order all of our favorites.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@thissecondhalfadventure 👍👍
Keep up the good work. Excited to hear about your upcoming trip back to Ireland in September!
@unclepick3459. To quote Bartles and Jaymes ‘ thank you for your continued support’ . Yes, the anticipation for September is building!
Great video thank you for the information provided
@alandoherty5237. Glad you enjoyed that video.
Appreciate you watching and commenting!!
Great video and useful advice!
@rutube46. Thank you very much!
Thanks for watching 👍😀.
I hope you folks had a wonderful holiday and didn't mind the weather too much.
@3storiesUp. Thank you watching and commenting. We got so lucky with the weather!!
A little rain here and there but nothing to complain about. Yes, we enjoyed our holiday very much 😀
You said you climbed Errigal? Wow, that's splendid you made it up to Donegal. Mostly, good advice in the clip. Maybe do one for Irish visiting America? - the Telly and films are not like real life America - especially in the Southern parts.
@freedomsaoirse Mt Errigal was stunning! Here's a link to our video on that...
ua-cam.com/video/rw69RvMXmFE/v-deo.htmlsi=8ms3GQjyLoksYyBK
What are your impressions of America, based on films and telly? We're very curious! Because our country is so large, there are very large differences in geographic areas of the country. We have some videos on our channel showing the southeastern US (Asheville, NC) and some of the rural Midwest (Parke County Covered Bridge Fest). We'd be interested to know what you think about them! Thanks so much for watching and commenting! 🙂💚❤
Hi a few comments
People in the south.ie republic refer to northern Ireland as the north
It is always Derry never
londonderry
Very few would eat traditional meals like Stew or Cabbage and potatoes was from a poorer time.
Food in Ireland is now very good and international.
Independent coffee shops and bakeries in all towns usually also catering for food allergies.
Our supermarkets are very good and multipacks are a much cheaper option for chocolate bars etc.
@brianfagan3367. Thanks for joining the conversation!
We also had a few comments regarding the term “southern Ireland “. We were referring to the part of the Republic that we hadn’t visited. It was suggested that we name the counties we were visiting to save any confusion.
I understand what you’re saying about traditional meals. That type of meal was always best around a table with the family.
We’ve eaten many types of world cuisine and I’ve seen many of them represented in Ireland. We even saw American barbecue. I’d like to check out a supermarket in Ireland. Thanks for the tip 😀👍✌ Glad you watched and commented.
Would have to disagree about the food. I grew up on a diet of stews, bacon and cabbage, soda bread, fry ups, colcannon, you name it - and im only 22. Differs everywhere, we're a crowd of farmers from the countryside, could be a different story in towns qnd cities. of course we ate pasta, rice, curries and all the rest too, but the "traditional" stuff isnt as dead as people may think!
@@elll2184 Very glad you commented! Chris’s grandparents could stretch a half pound of beef or pork by making soups or stews by adding cabbage, turnips or potatoes etc from their garden. Egg noodles ( Amish style ) is still a comfort food favorite.
Beans also played a big part.
Our favorite “ethnic “ food was our Americanized version of Italian 😂
It’s great to know food options in Ireland are many but it’s good news that the “traditional” stuff isn’t dead!! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍😀
We just moved to Ireland and loved your vlog.
@UdanKhatola_dream. Thanks so much for your comment 😀
What part of the country did you move to?
Hoping that you enjoy your new home!! 👍😀✌
Thank you for watching!
When you talked about food you said you can get other dishes like Thai, Indian etc. In the bigger cities.. You can get these in any small village in Ireland. I live in a small village and we have 2 Chinese takeaways, 2 Indian takeaways, a restaurant that does morroccan/Portuguese /Greek style food and Italian restaurants.. This is in most places in the country
@denise159. Thanks, that’s very good to know!
Chris really enjoys spicy foods! Sometimes it’s a good idea to switch things up a bit.
Since we’re going to be in Ireland though, we’ll probably look for the specialty of the town or village we’re in 😀
The Moroccan food however, sounds like something I need to try 👍
Thanks for watching and joining the conversation!!
"Honk off' (1:15) I haven't heard that expression in years. I was tickled.
@generybarczyk6993. Thanks for the comment 😀 We never what’s going to pop out of our mouths. Sometimes it gets edited 😂 Glad you’re watching!
Irish woman here, There is NO country called northern Ireland., it simply does not exist. I live in Belfast and the 6 counties are part of the country , just like my passport says, I am an Irish citizen, we find tourist's claiming otherwise, very offensive tbh.
The " troubles ", had nothing to do with Religion, and everything to do with Politics, infact the United Orishmen were Presbyterian !
In the 6 counties the majority are now the Catholics/ Nationalist.
Some were Presbyterian, some were church or Ireland or or different nonconformist other were enlightenment thinkers and religion wasn't a big part of their identity. The reasons for protestants joining were varied, The penal laws also affected non-conformist and the split between Covenanters and non-Covenanters let to more radical factions within Presbyterianism, when these laws improved for non conformists support for revolt died down. Also many old landowner preferred having the Irish parliament with Anglo-Irish landowners rather then direct rule favoured by newer industrialist. This is a different kind of nationalism as Yeast coined as "romantic" nationalism, and also the initial ideal to have a secular state by both socialist and old school liberals, was overtaken by those that wanted a state religion (social conservatives), a tide that only recently been reversed in the South.
Obviously religion plays a part because it was weaponized for loyalty, and to that is the history, and also both side established a state religion, even if the non-conformist argue on if they can bring into line with the presbytery or simply want to coexist. Quakers kind of get forgotten about too.
Religious freedom for me but not for ye, was basically what happened when some of these group went to America.
The Industrialisation of the north was largely why unionism survived and why it is dying.
The majority are around 2% more catholic whether the majority are nationalist remains to be seen the largest party in the assembly is nationalist but the biggest block is not, with MPs is similar. Also where you place Alliance matters, many Irish nationalist would consider Alliance with its root in progressive unionism more toward the status quo albeit progressive or would be suspicious of them. It is likely going towards nationalism or more likely a more progressive republicanism like in the south. There is zero interest in one party state or a politburo in the south, even if some fringe groups in the north would have you believe this how it will roll. There is appetite for left wing parties but int he context of a multi-party state, and the south is broadly laissez-faire on the local level.
I'm a secular republican, I will never be an etho-nationalist.
@ShoJ369. Thanks for watching and commenting on this.
We do the best research we can and sometimes we don’t explain thoroughly enough (the religion part) what we intended. Every comment we get from viewers educates us a little more and we appreciate that people take the time to share their thoughts 😀👍✌
@@paulthomas8262 Thanks for watching and taking the time to share this. Well done!
You seem to have a deep understanding of this subject. Do you teach (professor) ?
Thanks again!
@@paulthomas8262zero interest in a unified state in the south? Am I interpreting that correctly? If so, oh how little you know.....😘
@@elll2184 I don't know what you referring to back then the concept of unification didn't exist because there was no partition the whole of Ireland was under British rule. Obviously the plantation in the North were more established but there were other plantations historically, but that was less reflected in eh demographics.
Obviously the rebellion happen in Wexford which is in the south. But it was meant to join up with the north but than never happened because of communication issues.
I never said there was no protestant interested in in full independence I'm merely pointing out there was lot of different idea of Independence and different motivations. when people say "how times have changed" the reason why that changed is industrialisation of the north and also bringing nonconformist into the power structure after to brutally putting down dissent. You don't have to like it but it is history.
Even from the 1920s. Independent Ireland very nearly was secular nation from the start. There was the romantic nationalist like Yeats , also socialists, but religious conservative and the church had more influence. Ireland secularism started it the late 70s and only really got going in the late 80s and 90s.
There was also rebels in country down in and the Ards peninsular their own communities hunted them down. What differentiated these groups? well one reason was actual a religious disagreement within Presbyterian and how this related to the established Church and crown and previous history of in Scotland.
Bare in mind the concept of a modern nation was a very new one. Wolf Tone spent a lot of time in France with Republican forces.
In Dublin, it is completely walkable. There are also LUAS (trollies), which will take you away from downtown. If you want to ride the LUAS or buses, buy a LEAP CARD. It is well worth it throughout the Republic.
While in Ireland, in 1978, I often asked opinions of the Irish about several subjects, including 'THE TROUBLES'. I never expressed any opinions, I just asked questions. I appeared to be well received. But it is VERY touchy.
@donavanfoto3263. We plan to use some of the public transport in Dublin this trip 😀 We really enjoyed walking in Dublin though. Haven’t looked up LUAS yet I’m going to check that out. Thanks!
The whole history of Ireland still remains a tough subject for a lot of people. We tried to listen more than talk during those conversations.
Thanks again for watching and commenting 😀👍
@@thissecondhalfadventure : The LUAS are light rail electric trains (trollies) that will take you several places in and out of town. In the Jarvis section of downtown is the National Leprechaun Museum. It is directly across from the LUAS. Howth has a nice Seaside view. Donnybrook is accessible by bus and has RTE (Irish version of BBC). I lived there in 1978 for two months.
As an Irish person in my mid 50s I can confirm that food was terrible back in the 70s and 80s. However, since then there has been a growth in the appreciation of Irish ingredients. Irish meat and fish are now world renowned for its quality and consistency
@mgreengiant. Ha! That must’ve been the reason for the bad reputation. 😀
We agree, even the dairy products are getting recognition.
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A great list, Chris and Carol. I must remember them myself.😅 Do you know that Americans are the most visited tourist to Ireland. Always welcome. 👍😊💙
@donstravelsandrants. Thanks Don!
Ha 😀! Being Irish, shouldn’t you be exempt from scrutiny? 😀
Lots of Americans certainly travel to Ireland. There’s always a few that act like an eejit 😀
Thanks!
Being an eejit is allowed. I'm a bit of a one myself. 😜🤣👍😊
@@donstravelsandrants. Please don’t tell anyone, but I (Chris) can be an eejit at times. Just ask Karen ! 😂
Cool.👍😊😄
Northern Ireland’s population is more like 27% of the total population of the island (not 37%).
@TheDeclanlavelle. Thanks for the correction 👍 We always try to keep things accurate.
Thanks for watching.
Some good advice there 👍🧸🐻
@twobearsontour. Thank you very much!!
Hope you’re doing well 👍😀
Hello again , The last time we made contact i said that some of my family would be in the U S for the month of July , Well they have just left Colorado heading for / New Mexico /Arizona /Nevada and finely California they are having a fabulous time driving in beautiful country side in a Chevy Camaro ,Good to be young just like the two of You , Your advice is excellent rural Ireland is better value for money the southern parts / Kerry [ my backyard] Cork are a little Expensive , Galway / Mayo /Sligo/ Donegal better value and less traffic ,Take care ,[ North west Indiana] hope to see you soon,☘☘☘☘☘
@johnburns6422. Hello from the two Hoosiers!
Like we said before, what a great adventure they must be having! Hopefully they can stand up to the heat out there. Record heat especially in Vegas. Safe travels to them!
😀We’re only as young as we feel and we feel pretty good right now 😀
Rural parts of Ireland are the best for us. Feel pretty comfortable there.
By the way, I can’t think of a better way to drive around the western USA than in a Camaro!!!
@@thissecondhalfadventure Hello and thank you for your reply , Yes my two sons and grandson are having a fantastic holiday in Roasting Hot weather the photos of some of the places are beautiful , As for the summer here it is Cold / Wet and Wendy [ Global Warming Not In Ireland ] this country is too small , Wonderful to see you i,ll keep looking out for the two of you , God Bless Take Care ☘☘☘☘☘.
Good list but i would have don't say that ireland is in the UK or british even in northern ireland you alluded to that in various ways but it needed to be clearer and more specific.I would also had don't assume that american preception of irish culture is accurate,like leprechauns and 4 leaf clover or mix up scottish and irish culture though very similar certain things are not applicable if you see somebody wearing a kilt thats a scotsman over for a wedding or sports event its not common for an irishman to wear a kilt and bagpipes are more of scots thing though its an important instrument here aswell ,the Uilleann pipes are more iconic to irish culture.
If anyone wants to see a local sports event i would recommend Gaelic Football and hurling our native sports or rugby not club soccer as england or mainland europe is better place as most people here support Premier league clubs in england as a result stadiums and crowds are small not withstanding greater local interest ,the facilities are not up to scratch yet.
Never mention religion or politics that is true ,but its more important in the North than the republic,because they have cues to tell us what side of the fence somebody is politically that outsiders would not be aware of .Even as a southerner i would know that somebody named reginald would not be in favour of a united ireland he could be but generally he won't and on the otherside a lady called sorcha or saoirse is probably not going to be into the British royal family other than as celebrities,but not regard them as their sovereign.However its not something i would bother learning just don't bring it up.
@Joseph13163. Thanks for your comments 👍
I would say, Ireland obviously has a lot more history to dissect than the USA. Speaking for myself only, every time I think I understand a little more about the history I find out more. Always more layers get peeled back. It’s a lot to absorb 😀
We tried to tell American viewers to learn a few things about Irish history to save themselves from some embarrassing situations.
Chicago Police Dept has a bagpipe represent them at special events and parades. Most Americans haven’t heard of Uilleann pipes. Several musicians we know were already familiar with them however.
We were hoping to see Gaelic football or hurling but the season will be over ☹ We’re talking about a hurling (basic) class instead. My buddies will get a laugh out of watching me flail around. Did enjoy the rugby World Cup, to the final game.
The last part sounds like another layer😀
Enjoyed your comments. Thanks for watching!
Dublin is not only the city centre. Seriously folks. You miss out on so much of Dublin by staying in and around city centre. Such a shame.
Thanks for watching and commenting! What is considered the boundary for the "city center"? And what would you recommend to visiting Americans outside the city center yet still in Dublin? Thanks so much for tolerating our questions! 🙂❤
Places like Dungarvan, Westport etc are towns within counties, not cities.
Sorry, we gave them credit for being bigger than they are!😆
Listoonvarna and Westpirt arw not citys
As we said above, we gave them credit for being bigger than they are! 😆
it's the 17th March.
Right you are!🙂🍀
Galway pronounced correctly 👍☘️
Thanks so much- Irish pronunciation is a bit challenging given our southern Hoosier roots!
A few things that occurred to me- 1. Patty is the diminutive of Patricia; 2. In the 2022 Census 69% of people ticked the Catholic option on the Census form even though many admitted afterwards that they’re non-practicing but just automatically ticked that box; 3. the Troubles in Northern Ireland were political not religious-people who’d like a ‘united Ireland’ and those who wish for Northern Ireland to remain part of the UK.
Patty as a word is practically unknown in Ireland.
Some might use it to describe the piece of squashed meat in a burger, but that's about it
@@nigelmchugh5541 I was at school and worked with girls/women named Patricia who were usually called Pat or Patty. Not so much nowadays as there aren’t that many Patricias around anyway.
@Granuaile1. Loved the use of ‘diminutive’ ! I agree with you.
#2. That seems similar to things I’ve heard in the U.S. Very interesting.
#3. That has been pointed out to us👍. We should have explained that a little better 😀
Thanks for watching and adding to the conversation!!
@@nigelmchugh5541 Thanks for sharing that with us! It’s one of those terms we just grew up with. If it’s shaped like a patty, it seems like people will call it a patty no matter what is😂
Thanks again!
@@Granuaile1 Same here. Sometimes used as middle name to honor a loved one.
😅 it's very traditional to the Irish to wear a tie and a cold at night when they go out and Americans should respect that and try to address the same as the Irish when they are in Ireland
@gulayguthre9939. My apologies! We try to answer every comment in a timely manner.
I think the tradition is great! Bar/Pub culture is different in the US . The old saying was ‘No shirt, no shoes, no service’ . 😂. If the establishment requires a tie or a jacket people will dress appropriately.
Some Americans will always dress up for an evening. The majority probably won’t. If our attire didn’t meet the standard of the business we wouldn’t demand to be seated. We would just move on to the next place.
It almost seems, here in the U.S., the reasons to wear a tie are Work, a wedding or a funeral 😀.
Thanks again for watching 👍✌😀
I am afraid that Catholics are very thin on the ground in both jurisdictions nowadays. Ireland is fairly open society now!!!
@raymonddixon7603. Seems like a lot of people in the U.S. have strayed away from organized religion as well.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and thanks for watching.
@@thissecondhalfadventure Thanks. Just an after thought. Strangely enough people come to Ireland because of the cuisine. It has gained a reputation among Europeans.
@@raymonddixon7603 Great afterthought!
We will share that information with others.
I find that very interesting. Thanks again!!
You are decent people!
Thank you so much for the kind words @carmeldaly5566! We appreciate your views and comments! 🙂💚
Armagh for Sam 🎉
@petercunningham5640. Living in the state we grew up in , we appreciate sports very much .
Sending all the best to Armagh 👍🎉😀
No, It's St Patrick's day
Nothing else, just St Patrick's day.
Or as someone above commented "17th March" 🙂🍀
@paulobrien6919 If you're talking the official name of the day, in English, then yeah, but it is often referred to as Paddy's Day. I'm not sure if I've heard of it as Saint Paddy's Day, maybe rarely. But really it's just those two.
Paddy = Patrick
Patty = Patricia.
@gerardflynn7382. Sometimes, nothing is better than simplicity 😀
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Yes British nationalism was terrible for a lot of the world but no where more so than Ireland.
Im glad you mentioned that about the British and their disgusting form of nationalism
@John3160Brian-cm4fj. Glad you are watching and commenting! Thanks!
There is no such country of Northern Ireland. It’s six counties of the nine counties that make up the province of Ulster. It’s never been recognized as a country. It doesn’t even have its own flag. People in the six counties can choose what passport they want British or Irish
or both.
@@annfrancoole34 yes
@@annfrancoole34 That’s very interesting.
That makes me me scratch my head!
Thanks for watching.
@@jgg59 Thanks for joining in!
@jgg59. We know about the six counties and we know about the province of Ulster. But we’re confused about NI not being a country. We just found out the passport choice.
Thanks for comments.
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😅 most Irish people dress nicely when they go out to the pub at night were American just like crap
@gulayguthre9939. Thanks for commenting.
If we go out in the evening we’ll usually have nicer clothes to wear but sometimes it’s a situational decision. If we meet friends to watch a sporting event we probably won’t dress up much. If it’s a special dinner or get together we’ll dress appropriately 😀
Overall though, Americans dress very casually.
My only defense would be travelers have limited suitcase space to pack enough clothing. That’s the only excuse I have😂
Glad you brought that up! Thanks for watching.
Ah, its not so much an American thing as it is a tourist thing. I work in a bar constantly thronged with tourists, lots of americans in comfy casual gear, but plenty of germans, french, spanish people too, in hiking boots, rainjackets, leggings etc. Not typical pub wear but sure whos looking. We only bar anyone wearing tracksuit bottoms. Having said that, I can always spot an American wearing their signature baseball caps. Dont think ive ever seen an Irishman wearing one out and about! 😂
@@elll2184 We really enjoy your perspective 😀. We met several European tourists and they were dressed similarly to us in Ireland.
Usually jeans and a pullover sweater. I can promise we didn’t wear tracksuit bottoms 😂
Yes, we’re guilty as charged!! The baseball cap is a staple in my casual wardrobe (Chris).
I can’t speak for others, but my baseball cap keeps the top of my head from getting sunburned 😂 . We saw a lot of sunshine last trip 😀.
Thanks again!
Rubbish. Its Saint Patrick's day
Saint Paddys day also acceptable. Who cares anyway. 😂
@kathrynboyd4448. Agreed! Americans, however, tend to shorten or abbreviate a lot of names and titles. I even saw a couple of local businesses with signs on their doors that said “Come celebrate SPD with us”.
@@johnmc3862 👍👍 Thanks for commenting 😀
Paddy's Day, not SAINT Paddy's Day is often used too.
I hear paddys day more than St Patricks Day to be honest
All Americans & Canadians will get Céad míle fáilte 👍
@cemu1065. 👍😀 Thank you very much! Can’t wait to get back to Ireland.