@@chrisrussellcaI don’t think so, I think it will be worth it to fit an Arctic LF3, what do you reckon? I think the pump block height can be shortened to ~53mm to fit 3 slot mode?
@@chrisrussellcait’s 68mm and the pump mechanism is sideways mounted but looking at diagrams seems you can knock off around 10-15mm removing the plastic cap
Great job Chris and thank you for the in depth review on the T1. Building mine today with everything H20 with external MO-RA IV radiator for my 7800X3D and RTX 4090
@@chrisrussellca Thanks for answering! I do have one more question. At 0:52 you show the case with a glass side panel on the motherboard side how negatively are the temperatures affected in that configuration?
Haven't gone through all the comments but.. running the vertical stand and 2 T grills (top / bottom) Could we run air coming through the front (top) through a radiator and exiting the back(bottom)? Potentially watercooled GPU space through another radiator?
Well once I get another TGrill I’ll test it. I could always test the grill at the bottom pushing air through the top. I need fan brackets to secure them to the grill or they’ll just slide down.
Great build, and awesome videos! I used your great content as inspiration for my own build. You mentioned you switched back to the Atmos 240 from the AXP-90 x47. Just curious, why the switch?
Great video. I have a T1 and I love to tinker with it. I will consider the travel kit just because it seems quite a bit more secure even though I don't really plan to travel with it.
Clicked because of the thumbnail, stayed because of the content! Love everything in this build. But I have a question wouldn't negative pressure be better because of the tight space between the AIO and the fans ?
Thank you!! More content coming soon related to the T1. Honestly I don’t really think about pressure. I exhaust out the top because heat rises and it helps evacuate the warm air from the 4080 also.
@@chrisrussellca Looks incredible and i feel price is slighly higher. $35 - $45 was okie i think. i am planning to build one new SFF with upcoming AMD 9XXX.
Would be curious to see how much some bottom mounted 120x15mm fans help, especially with a TG panel. Would you consider running that test? Thanks for the vid.
@@chrisrussellca Awsome, thank you! Regarding the looks of the extension/top hat; I quite like the length wise slats for ventilation. From the front not so much. If the front was closed off to match the front panel of the case it would look better, imo anyway.
Would love to know that too! I remember in my nr200p case, Fans at the bottom (15mm noctuas) reduced the idle temps by 20% for the GPU - but I think its not the same in the Formd case, since its really Small
Awesome to see FormD collaborate with reviewers to preview upcoming products. It kinda sucks though considering FE cards are nearly impossible to find at MSRP since the T1 seems to be designed around them. Hoping RTX 5000 FE uses the same cooler as 4000 FE to maintain travel kit compatibility.
FYI there are some Chinese GPU brand that will fit the I/O bracket of the 4080 travel kit (not the support bracket though). Additionally the ProArt travel kit is for sale now and fits all version of 40 series Pro Art cards so great for a sturdy low power build too.
In the default configuration you can use the standard riser cable that comes with the case but if you wish to use the “high” option then you’d need a longer riser and a way to secure it to the motherboard. There is a revision in the works for the stock riser but can’t go too much into detail.
Really wanted the Evolv for a while but is really expensive when I was weighing the option. That’s a good board also, just moved from it to the X670E-I its bigger sibling.
Just saw the T1 T-Grill up on the store and was labeled as "restocking." I was originally debating getting their vertical stand they put up prior, but I am debating retting the grill instead because I could upgrade to water cooling and I do like the way this looks.
Subbed, great work dude! The Phanteks T30's are insane. Currently running an NR200PMax with Silent Wings Pro 4 140mm's, considering the Dan A4-H2O or this setup for my next build. Not sure what your audio setup is but it sounds a bit echoey/"hollow", your visuals are incredible so I feel like better audio would definitely improve it.
Audio is the bane of my existence, it’s either over processed or echoey. I choose the lesser of the two as I don’t work in a sterile noise environment.
You should definitely go for the T1 over the A4-H2O; if you like building. A4 is a great “set it and forget it” ITX case, it’s not without its challenges but it’s far less intimidating than the T1.
@@chrisrussellca good to know! I like the aesthetic of the A4-H2O more as I'm a sucker for silver, but I think the T1 will grow on me. I'm considering doing a direct die custom loop just for the CPU.
@@chrisrussellca Yeah that's right, price wise the A4 seems better but the build quality on the FormD should be better, I just like the lines and front IO of the H2O. Keeping my options open for sure.
@@chrisrussellca awesome, looking forward to your answer. Since it is not really necessary to upgrade from v1.1 to the latest version just for the top hat kit. Though aio with noctua 12015 quite toasty hahaha
Unfortunately v1.1 isn’t compatible (via FormD rep), still waiting on official cause for incompatibility. So far v2.0 and v2.1 are compatible and maybe 2.5 unofficially (different company with different revisions).
@@chrisrussellcacoool cool currenltly mulling over the T1 v2.5 and the Ncase M2… It’ll be a 4070 ti super build (most likely) so just looking at the best options….
I’ve considered that but I already had the 7900X for a while and didn’t want to buy another board when it was time to upgrade. But trust me, I considered. I’ll see what they do with Ryzen 9000.
@@chrisrussellca I sent the top cover of the heightened grille I designed to 3fc, and then lobbied him to produce a version with a sense of design. It seems that there is progress. Haha
@@wangyan1520 I was actually looking to revise their CoverGrill to fit on the case with the hallow top panel and so I reached out to 3FC for the original file so I can modify it. He informed me about the this prototype, several months later we have a useful sample.
@@chrisrussellca You didn't look at DC？, did you? I have almost made more than 120 heightening top covers, Just because 3fc refused to make a heightening top cover at the beginning
I love the 3D printing community and formd for supporting product expansion through it. I hope to see this trend expand more. Great content as well. I subscribed.
don't need all that, you can just remember that 0 to 100 in celsius or fahrenheit are arbitrary, so taking a percentage of fahrenheit will give you a different answer to celsius will give you a different answer to kelvin
@@chrisrussellca cool! i currently run 2 15mm thin fans above my aio radiator (with the fans touching the top cover). do you think with the top grill i can replace with 2 30mm thick fans on top of the radiator?
Yes, I believe* all top/bottom and side panels are the same across the two.. However I do not have v2.5 to test. I will update this comment when I have a solid answer.
I appreciate your input. This is something I’ve been open about on my community tab and Reddit. I don’t record in a quiet sterile environment and have to use more post processing. It has improved since this video especially in my most recent video.
One of the best thumbnails of the year period.
Thanks I appreciate it, what do you think of the TGrill design? Does it take away from the T1’s iconic look?
@@chrisrussellcaI don’t think so, I think it will be worth it to fit an Arctic LF3, what do you reckon? I think the pump block height can be shortened to ~53mm to fit 3 slot mode?
@@ΔαυίδΠριδεαυξ is that true? I’ve always wanted to try the LF3 but I think it’s over 60mm in height.
@@chrisrussellcait’s 68mm and the pump mechanism is sideways mounted but looking at diagrams seems you can knock off around 10-15mm removing the plastic cap
@@ΔαυίδΠριδεαυξ sounds like an expensive experiment.
Great job Chris and thank you for the in depth review on the T1. Building mine today with everything H20 with external MO-RA IV radiator for my 7800X3D and RTX 4090
That’s going to be a sick build. I considered building an external rad. Thanks also.
Great video and thank you for the shout out!
I find any reason to shout you out!
Awesome video and awesome build. Are those the CNC aluminum side panels or the standard steel ones?
Thank you! These are the CNC side panels, I’ve never actually seen the steel ones in person.
@@chrisrussellca Thanks for answering! I do have one more question. At 0:52 you show the case with a glass side panel on the motherboard side how negatively are the temperatures affected in that configuration?
@@fmalone03 haven’t tested yet. That was a temporary build add was taken apart after the video
Really love the hole caps besides the power cable input. Where did you get them?
I found them on Printables. www.printables.com/model/528062-formd-t1-v21-m19-hole-plugs
The personal goat in my opinion!!!!!!! I dropped your name to the folks at mod diy today love your stuff man
I really appreciate that! Glad you enjoyed the video.
This two tone t1 is insane, my only regret not choosing it (got the titanium) 🔥
The titanium is nice, I’m a bigger fan of contrast. That’s why I’m rocking the E-White right now
Haven't gone through all the comments but.. running the vertical stand and 2 T grills (top / bottom) Could we run air coming through the front (top) through a radiator and exiting the back(bottom)? Potentially watercooled GPU space through another radiator?
Well once I get another TGrill I’ll test it. I could always test the grill at the bottom pushing air through the top. I need fan brackets to secure them to the grill or they’ll just slide down.
Great video! Personally, I wish the edges of the grill were smooth to keep the consistent look from the front panel.
I thought about that too and someone else also commented that.
Great build, and awesome videos! I used your great content as inspiration for my own build. You mentioned you switched back to the Atmos 240 from the AXP-90 x47. Just curious, why the switch?
Thank you! I never stay in the same build for too long, typically 3-days to a week. Currently aim rocking the NR200P and ID-Cooling IS-55
If they releases a matching front plate to complement top that would make it look a lot better IMO
Actually a fire idea
Great video. I have a T1 and I love to tinker with it. I will consider the travel kit just because it seems quite a bit more secure even though I don't really plan to travel with it.
That’s me, I wanted the kit just as a precaution
@@chrisrussellca You can never be too careful!
@@ghost-type that’s my thought. I’m also just a fan of
@@chrisrussellca Yeah, I think it looks really clean.
Clicked because of the thumbnail, stayed because of the content! Love everything in this build. But I have a question wouldn't negative pressure be better because of the tight space between the AIO and the fans ?
Thank you!! More content coming soon related to the T1. Honestly I don’t really think about pressure. I exhaust out the top because heat rises and it helps evacuate the warm air from the 4080 also.
Hey you're on Reddit right? I remember seeing this desk and plant setup a few days ago.
They’re famous. I should get more props.
Also will be interesting to use this on a reference T1
Looks stunning. And really appreciate your effort.
Thank you! What do you think of the TGrill?
@@chrisrussellca Looks incredible and i feel price is slighly higher. $35 - $45 was okie i think.
i am planning to build one new SFF with upcoming AMD 9XXX.
@@manuvikraman1611 For some $85 is the cost of an entire case but CNC parts can cost much much more. I was quoted $250 to CNC the top-hat 3d file.
great camera work love your presentation. subbed!
Thanks for the sub!
Would be curious to see how much some bottom mounted 120x15mm fans help, especially with a TG panel. Would you consider running that test? Thanks for the vid.
I will definitely run that test as I already have everything required.
@@chrisrussellca Awsome, thank you!
Regarding the looks of the extension/top hat; I quite like the length wise slats for ventilation. From the front not so much. If the front was closed off to match the front panel of the case it would look better, imo anyway.
Would love to know that too! I remember in my nr200p case, Fans at the bottom (15mm noctuas) reduced the idle temps by 20% for the GPU - but I think its not the same in the Formd case, since its really Small
Follow me on Reddit, I will be updating this matter.
@@chrisrussellca possibly, you'll also need taller feet for the air to exhaust properly.
Cool video man. With this top panel it looks like your T1 is running on solar panels :)
Thanks!, Imagine that, gamers might actually get some sunlight.
@@chrisrussellca haha nice one!
Awesome to see FormD collaborate with reviewers to preview upcoming products.
It kinda sucks though considering FE cards are nearly impossible to find at MSRP since the T1 seems to be designed around them. Hoping RTX 5000 FE uses the same cooler as 4000 FE to maintain travel kit compatibility.
Thank You, I am not sure about 5000 series but I do know there may need to be revisions or adoptions for the next generation of Nvidia cards.
I wonder if the T30 or Noctua 25mm fans with the foam spacers would improve performance and use the extra room of the top hat even more.
Loving this channel man keep it up 👊👊
Thank you! I try. Look out for more content soon!
FYI there are some Chinese GPU brand that will fit the I/O bracket of the 4080 travel kit (not the support bracket though).
Additionally the ProArt travel kit is for sale now and fits all version of 40 series Pro Art cards so great for a sturdy low power build too.
I have that bracket coming too, but don’t have that card. Should be interesting :)
When u mod with the travel kit can you still use the base riser cable provided or do u need another one ?
In the default configuration you can use the standard riser cable that comes with the case but if you wish to use the “high” option then you’d need a longer riser and a way to secure it to the motherboard. There is a revision in the works for the stock riser but can’t go too much into detail.
Nice, I'm going with a Phanteks Evolv, ROG 650E-I board mini setup as well.
Really wanted the Evolv for a while but is really expensive when I was weighing the option. That’s a good board also, just moved from it to the X670E-I its bigger sibling.
Just saw the T1 T-Grill up on the store and was labeled as "restocking." I was originally debating getting their vertical stand they put up prior, but I am debating retting the grill instead because I could upgrade to water cooling and I do like the way this looks.
Interestingly enough the TGrill and vertical stand are compatible.
@@chrisrussellca oh really? Things are getting more interesting then.
I will test out today as the stand should arrive today.
Subbed, great work dude! The Phanteks T30's are insane. Currently running an NR200PMax with Silent Wings Pro 4 140mm's, considering the Dan A4-H2O or this setup for my next build.
Not sure what your audio setup is but it sounds a bit echoey/"hollow", your visuals are incredible so I feel like better audio would definitely improve it.
Audio is the bane of my existence, it’s either over processed or echoey. I choose the lesser of the two as I don’t work in a sterile noise environment.
You should definitely go for the T1 over the A4-H2O; if you like building. A4 is a great “set it and forget it” ITX case, it’s not without its challenges but it’s far less intimidating than the T1.
@@chrisrussellca good to know! I like the aesthetic of the A4-H2O more as I'm a sucker for silver, but I think the T1 will grow on me. I'm considering doing a direct die custom loop just for the CPU.
@@alihammad6318 they have the silver T1s available so think or Titanium
@@chrisrussellca Yeah that's right, price wise the A4 seems better but the build quality on the FormD should be better, I just like the lines and front IO of the H2O. Keeping my options open for sure.
I’m already thinking it would be sick to have the grill on the top and bottom
Well stay tuned as I think an update is coming soon.
I have an E-White T1 2.1 - any plans for a matching E-White T-Grill?
I wouldn’t count on it, I’d love that but chances are low.
i am curious, whether this top hat will fit the older brother V1.1?
Finding out right now.
@@chrisrussellca awesome, looking forward to your answer. Since it is not really necessary to upgrade from v1.1 to the latest version just for the top hat kit.
Though aio with noctua 12015 quite toasty hahaha
Unfortunately v1.1 isn’t compatible (via FormD rep), still waiting on official cause for incompatibility. So far v2.0 and v2.1 are compatible and maybe 2.5 unofficially (different company with different revisions).
@@chrisrussellca thanks for your update
Ability to have support bracket on the 4070 and other 4070 models?
No the travel kit is only compatible with the 4080/4090 FE
@@chrisrussellcacoool cool currenltly mulling over the T1 v2.5 and the Ncase M2… It’ll be a 4070 ti super build (most likely) so just looking at the best options….
You could try then Minisforum BD790i, its a beast and should be as fast or even faster then the 7900x while consuming less power and being cooler.
I’ve considered that but I already had the 7900X for a while and didn’t want to buy another board when it was time to upgrade. But trust me, I considered. I’ll see what they do with Ryzen 9000.
哈哈，非常高兴我推动的加高顶盖官方版本总算要面世了
Thank you!
@@chrisrussellca I sent the top cover of the heightened grille I designed to 3fc, and then lobbied him to produce a version with a sense of design. It seems that there is progress. Haha
@@wangyan1520 I was actually looking to revise their CoverGrill to fit on the case with the hallow top panel and so I reached out to 3FC for the original file so I can modify it. He informed me about the this prototype, several months later we have a useful sample.
@@chrisrussellca You didn't look at DC？, did you? I have almost made more than 120 heightening top covers, Just because 3fc refused to make a heightening top cover at the beginning
DC? I believe it, I’ve printed about 4 to date. All have issues or are broken.
I love the 3D printing community and formd for supporting product expansion through it. I hope to see this trend expand more.
Great content as well. I subscribed.
The community is great, honestly the SFF community is also great. A big inspiration for even starting this channel.
Gamers nexus has a nice explanation why comparing temperatures as percentages makes no sense.
don't need all that, you can just remember that 0 to 100 in celsius or fahrenheit are arbitrary, so taking a percentage of fahrenheit will give you a different answer to celsius will give you a different answer to kelvin
@@michaelpiper4067yep! in addition to the different units, the scale is skewed anyhow.
Good video, thanks
Glad you liked it!
does this support t1 v2.0?
Yes it does!
@@chrisrussellca cool! i currently run 2 15mm thin fans above my aio radiator (with the fans touching the top cover). do you think with the top grill i can replace with 2 30mm thick fans on top of the radiator?
Will this fit the T1 v2.5?
Yes, I believe* all top/bottom and side panels are the same across the two.. However I do not have v2.5 to test. I will update this comment when I have a solid answer.
@@chrisrussellca Thank you!
clean ass thumbnail
Thank you!!
More radiator surface area = better cooling. I would rather have a thicker radiator than thicker fans
Well that’s something that could be beneficial then. I’m no export in thermal dissipation. :)
@@chrisrussellca do you not have any coil whine from the asus board? that was the main reason i went with an asrock board instead of asus
I have this weird sound when under load but I’m thinking it’s the PSU when it’s boosting the wattage.
Great video, but fix your mic, it's too processed.
I appreciate your input. This is something I’ve been open about on my community tab and Reddit. I don’t record in a quiet sterile environment and have to use more post processing. It has improved since this video especially in my most recent video.
Madelyn Hill
Pardon?
cant even buy t1
there on stock black/silver/2tone my e-white arrive last week just waiting on a few more parts before i start building
Do you mean you can’t find one or you can’t make the purchase at the moment? There are stock available from FormD and Ncase.