Another thing to mention in the first clip is the pov cyclist made a poor overtake on the other. He had no space but decided to do a close pass on that uninvolved cyclist, putting him in danger. The irony is he's complaining about being closely passed whilst closely passing the other cyclists himself.
Yep. It's the hitting the ground bit that usually hurts the most so it doesn't much matter what knocks you off your bike. The bloke's a complete tool and I wouldn't be surprised if someone gets violent with him one day. Though I suspect he chooses carefully who he plays silly buggers with, his sort usually do.
There is a reason why vehicles should not close pass a cyclist - They create a slip stream caused by being aero-dynamic which can cause a cyclist to wobble, the faster the worse the situation. A cyclist doesn't create a slipstream of the same magnitude and wont cause another rider to wobble. Same situation occurs when lorries overtake cars on motorways.
@@bradfordzone5187bollox. You could get a pedal or a mirror caught up in the other bike, and cycling by it’s very nature causes a wobble which if not synchronised with the other cyclist will double the closed gap. And there’s the unexpected nature of close passes, it can make you jump. Stop making cycle excuses and learn to be a civilised road user.
In Belgium, cyclists have way when they join the road when the cycling path they're on merges onto the highway. It's not an explicit rule, but it's because you have to give way to the right on junctions. So legally, they would be in the wrong. And I myself do quite agree with this ruling. Cars should preferably give way to joining cycle paths. But I'm not saying you shouldn't watch out for cars as a cyclist in that instance either. Right, I've said my thing. You all have a great day!!!
The first clip looks like the ultimate make something from a non event Yes, the driver was close when the cycle lane ended but, similar to ours up here, the lane just ends without good warning and the ending can be ( not really an excuse though) hidden in the nearside a-pillar. However, the driver realised they wouldn’t be able to make the turn so held back and was then blocked from turning. The beep perhaps unnecessary in this instance but it wasn’t an aggressive beep in my opinion and if the driver hadn’t explained the use I would’ve actually taken it as a “Oops, sorry buddy. Didn’t realise the turn was as close as it was”
I ride 2 days a week in C London. One of the things other cyclists do that annoys (and endangers) me no end, is choosing to overtake other cyclists at the WORST POSSIBLE TIME. They so often do it at traffic lights where everybody is already bunched up in the cycle lane (and people turning both left and right at the junction) and yet STILL try to squeeze through where you could hardly get a cigarette paper between one lane and the other let alone a bike. They also LOVE to try and muscle into the people on the left of them (I always stay to the left, hugging the curb keeping out of the way) to avoid the people coming towards them. I had to shout at a woman on Tues for almost knocking me off as she tried to squeeze through between me and the people coming the opposite direction (who were also overtaking). They love to shout at motorists about 1.5 meters but often give other cyclists less than 1.5mm when passing. Today I was driving along a stretch of road with a bike lane on the left. Completely empty as I'm driving along, but there's a Lycra lout steaming down the outside of me. He passes the car in front of me as traffic slows and sweeps across the front towards the bike lane and nearly hits a mountain biker who is just trundling along minding his own business and riding responsibly. These are the kind of people who give ALL road users a bad name.
@@suziforester TBH I don't understand why it's so rare that people think of their own safety and the safety of others. Surely the whole point of any travel is to get where you're going with the least possible risk of death to yourself or others...I can never understand why people race at great risk to themselves and others, just to get to a destination a few seconds earlier (if they make it at all). Even if I'm late for work, I'd rather explain to my boss why I'm late, than explain to the Police why I killed someone rushing to work.
@AnthonyStafford-qx5hx How can that be accurate? Most deaths on the roads are cause by car drivers, and most of the dead were inside a car, and the next biggest user group of dead people is pedestrians, then motorbike riders and lastly, bicycle riders. Feel free to do some research prior to posting a comment.
I hit a long tailback on the motorway pretty much every morning and have done for years. My strategy if you can call it that is to relax, hang back from the car in front perhaps 20 or 30 feet and travel at the average slow speed of the traffic in second gear just to ease stress and strain on my brake lights, clutch and overall sanity. I like to sip on my nice cup of tea while I am at it. This overall behaviour seems to absolutely infuriate some drivers (quite often lorry drivers) who will tailgate me trying to push me closer to the traffic in front even though they are not getting anywhere any more quickly. Some drivers also don't like the idea of me "letting the occasional driver pull in in front of me" either. They don't seem to understand that the 3rd driver is either going to pull in where he/she just has or is otherwise going to drive on and pull in somewhere ahead anyway thus making very little difference to the overall equation of time and stress. Also, it's quite strange how fast tailbacks actually travel if you slow down and let the traffic evaporate in front. People need to learn to relax in the morning not get unnecessarily wound up.
Every single time I ride my bike I encounter multiple cars which fail to give way to me and close pass me. I simply keep riding as safely as possible and don't gesture / communicate with them at all. They clearly shouldn't have driving licenses but me telling them that isn't going to help anyone and if they hate bikes that much they may run me over if I antagonise them. I just smile and enjoy the fact I will be healthier and better off financially after my commute than they will be.
I dont cycle anymore. Im not well enough. But ive done milledge, country, city and town. Summer motor bike gloves with kevlar knuckles wracked on their passenger window soon gets you the distance they should be giving you.
Mercedes clearly slowed down for the speed camera on the opposite side which prompted the overtake "wanton and furious cycling" and the mercedes sped up after the camera....
The oddest part is, it's not like they're out on a lovely country lane with the sun on their backs and some looney deliberately spoils their day. They're always in traffic, in town, in the rain, causing hassle and generally having a shit time. How not to be a cyclist.
@DonaldDonaldson-ug9lp It's called a group ride, y'know, socialising while exercising while also getting fresh air and being in nature. It's good, you should try it.
@@johnrea2115 Doing a Jeremy is going out of your way to create or instigate a situation for content, not riding your bike with friends. Someone needs to grow up.
Over 20 years ago, I got cross at a car pulling out from a Tesco, on the obligatory supermarket access roundabout. I tailgated them angrily for a kilometre until I realised there were kids in the car, I was being a dick, and it hadn’t caused any significant delay. Since then I’m way more chill…..it’s not worth it.
I'm going to be honest, as a cyclist the biggest sin this chaponabike did was pass another cyclist very close without ringing his bell to tell him he's there.
Just catching up with your latest clips Ash. Totally agree with your analysis of the first clip here re the order the three road users should have gone in. And how ironic that the interaction occurred right opposite where a police car was parked. I was almost expecting an officer to get out of the patrol csr to see what was going on.
I had seen the silvio clip and thought it was pathetic trying to make point. Ok the car entered but all silvio needed to do was exit in the right lane then tuck in behind
In the second clip you can see the shadow of the cyclist off his saddle and standing on his pedals to try and get as close as he can to the Merc to have the confrontation that follows.
Regarding the Silvio clip, I'm not sure how else I would have approached the roundabout differently as a cyclist except being a bit slower and more cautious. In general, I find roundabouts are especially tricky for cyclists due to cyclists having a thin profile making them hard to see as you mentioned due to A-pillar blindspots. I think it would be a great topic to cover in a video to learn how to safely approach and navigate a roundabout as a cyclist.
Tom Scott did an excellent video about a cyclist killed at a New Forest junction layout which induced 'A' pillar blindness in an oncoming driver. The oblique angle of the junction meant the cyclist and the car approached the same point without the driver ever being able to see him. A tragic.accident, resulting in a re-configuring of the junction.
The main point on roundabout as a drive and as a cyclist is to take them carefully and be constantly watching for entering /exiting traffic and adjusting as appropriate Almost every issue I see or encounter at roundabout is due to impatience and/or taking the roundabout too fast. Plus sometimes a dash of unwillingness to accommodate for people who have found themselves in wrong position
@@TheHitcher30 Why not if it is sketchy to ride round it. There is a roundabout near me that I won't turn right at (in my car). On the odd occasion I have used it I have made three left turns. Much safer.
Yes, they are travelling on the A206 and the roundabout they are crossing is the A205/A2204 down to the ferry crossing. White building far side is the New Wine Church next to Deluxe Riverview.
Wrong; people shouldn't ever get out of their car. I'm a motorbike rider and a bicycle rider; anyone, car driver or otherwise, that comes marching up to me with a stern expression and breaches a two metre exclusion zone gets a free trip to hospital. If I had a car, I wouldn't get out of it to get in someone's face. I don't ever get of my bike to confront someone, no matter what has occurred.
3:22 the Mercedes was braking because there was a speed camera in a 20 mph zone, then both went on to exceed the speed limit after the camera had been passed, kept leap frogging each other until stuck behind a van.
What I like about the second one is. He got out of the saddle, putting a bit of a shift to catch the car, and then cycled on the wrong side of the road to make a point. What a gent. Meaning even the cyclist coming from the opposite direction took a minor change. And the first one. What a condescending gent. If he comes and and said he was a gent, I'd have nothing more than absolute admiration. This... 99.9% of cyclists are mint. When I cycle, I don't want a close pass. But neither do I really need 1.5m. I mean, if I did. I probably shouldn't be cycling..
I think you do. At say 18mph - not fast - you are running at 8m/s and a hazard can appear very quickly, say a pothole. You need space to manoeuvre around that safely. Equally the motor vehicle may swerve,
@@mattwardman I mean, you don’t. I like room, but having cars dart to the opposite side of the roads because they are scared of being too close/filmed and reported. Come on. I’m not saying a close pass. Different opinions etc. Back to the video. Are we saying the car in the first clip passed closely, technically yes. But come on, no normal cyclist would have cared.
@@philipjames3526 On 1.5m, it's simply yes - we do. My experience is that a significant % of drivers are effectively asleep, and don't look beyond the end of their bonnet. When cycling, I always have a Pass Pixi (reflective speed camera type sign) on the back of my cycle, so I'm running Schrodinger's video cameras, and it makes a big difference. If overtaking motor vehicles need to dart anywhere to give as much space to a cycle or motorbike as they would a car, it is not a safe overtake and they should wait. That's classic "Must Get In Front". I can see no overtakes in the first clip; there is the other cyclist on a separated cycle track, and a motorist in the carriageway alongside. It would be better with a median, of course. If it is an overtake then the motorist is overtaking through a traffic calming feature, which is frowned on by the HWC. The painted cycle lane is a mess; they increase collisions and casualties (we have the evidence) partly because they encourage driving to the near side of the lane. It would most probably be safer without it. I'd argue that that street should perhaps be one way, and the network adjusted. Chaponabike obviously tightens it up too much. BTW, I like your standing jump; I'm part owner of a Crossfit gym.
@@mattwardman If you are travelling so fast that you cannot anticipate a fixed hazard, you aren't paying proper attention according to the law. That works for all road users. No-one should be swerving suddenly. Cyclists don't pass wide either, yet a car could swerve.
@@fakecrusader I think you're missing it - in the scenario under discussion the cyclist has seen the fixed hazard and we have the 1.5m clearance to drive around it. Motor vehicles swerve suddenly if the driver has not noticed something until the last minute, and they habitually go far faster than cycles. Unfiortunately it is impossible to tell whether a random driver in a random vehicle will not swerve suddenly as they "should", or will even see something straight in front of their nose. They drive into lamp posts, they drive into the front room of people's houses, they drive too fast into a setting sun when they should be at walking pace, they drive into pedestrian refuges, they drive straight through lights on red because they "do not see". They drive into things directly in front of them - from pedestrians and cyclists right up to police vehicles in full livery with blues and twos running. Then they lie to the police about what happened. Then they lie to the Court. Then they lie to themselves. Vulnerable road users can't trust that, which is why we have the 1.5m rule. Fortunately people who violate it are more likely than ever to get 6 reward points to display proudly on their license, which is a very good thing. Sorry for taking such a blunt position, but that's where I stand.
A couple of clip hunters today. First one is just a bonehead. No idea what he thought was going on there. Second clip, maybe the sun had a part to play. Long shadows pointing directly at the driver’s window of the Mercedes. Add in poor riding, possible reflection or glare off the damp roads and a rider with a clear ego problem and you’ve got a concoction for nonsense.
Excellent analysis as always and I happen to concur. Them versus us mentality..... It really needs to end ASAP. FYI @Ash - eventually got to view your upload with DCH and posted appropriately but it was at "Silly O'Clock" this morning 😂 lol. I'm waiting for you and Mikey to find common ground but can't help but wonder if that will ever happen 😮
Last clip is in Woolwich. Second clip is in Gypsy Hill, London. Right near where I live and people (bikes and cars) straight line that roundabout all the time. I stick to the left hand lane when going straight ahead and people frequently try to over take me and cut in front, usually because they are pissed off with me for sticky to the 20mph limit when coming down the hill from Crystal Palace.
On the first clip the driver should have seen the first cyclist and been slowing to stop in order to give him priority across the junction. The second clip Silvio took a straight line due to the wet road. How fast was the silver car going after the roundabout ? It certainly looks more than 20 mph
I have to agree with you, Ashley - poor riding/driving in these clips. One thing that does cross my mind is that, no matter who is at fault, the driver of the car/van/lorry is never going to be the one getting physically hurt in bike-vehicle encounters. That invincible metal shell gives its occupants a certain privilege of invulnerability.
These twitter cyclists do it on purpose in a hope of the vehicle driver getting into trouble with the police knowing that their poor road use will go without punishment.
Invincible? Factually wrong. There is potential for physical harm, but there are other types of harm that can occur that bad road users don't think of. Which makes this farming for content even worse.
Cyclists...you want all your rights...but not the responsibilty...it is incumbent on yourselves to ride safely and minimise the risk of harm. Regardless who is at fault, nothing will bring you back from the slab in the morgue...so your first action needs to be, BE RESPONSIBLE
After what Ashley said about the other dashcam channels I'm glad I'm one of the few dashcam channels that dos not act out and make things worse like the others.
I have to admit that I used to ride like Silvio when I was younger. Just had a massive chip on my shoulder. Most people grow out of it, sadly many who don't grow out of it choose to become dash cam drivers or cyclists. I do find it odd how your comments on this video are all people complaining about 'cyclists' but your clips with drivers never cause people to complain about 'drivers', even though 'drivers' kill about 1000 times more people each year in the UK....
That was the most polite road rage I have seen (from the white van driver) I'd be a bit peeved if someone fishing for content was blocking my path also
On the second clip, the Mercedes could be slowing as that's where the fixed speed camera zone is and the satnav may have chimed. It's only a 20 zone, within a cyclist's speed window, and it's just by the camera that Silvio overtakes (into oncoming traffic...). Once past the camera (and the zebra crossing's zigzags) the Mercedes increases speed and overtakes. Then they both catch up with the van maintaining 20.
Thought so! Few years back we did a long walk from South Quay/Island Gardens past Cutty Sark etc along to Woolwich, sorta recognised the buildings (which were still being built when I was there haha)
The camera can make things look different to reality, but my sense immediately was that the cyclist was riding too fast on a potentially slippy road surface, so cut the roundabout as a result.
First time I saw a Chapona Bike clip analysed by Ashley (passing an obligingly short-fused BMW driver stopped on zebra zigzags), I made a few comments including one or two suggesting that the camera was the decisive factor in how he chose to ride. Chapona popped up, replying to me "Good point! I don't post boring clips, that's for sure...".
Why is the cyclist in the opposing lane at 3:42 with oncoming traffic but not overtaking? Looks like the driver had to take evasive action to make it safe for everyone When two egos get into a tarmac war there are no winners, only danger and the lack of seeing it
I'm familiar with all locations. On the first clip, the discussion happened in front of Kingston Police station. On the second one, the car might have slowed down because of a speed camera, albeit only for the opposite direction of travel.
I find the worst "must get in front" examples are those where, despite having a clear road behind you, a vehicle pulls out in front and then, instead of accelerating, holds you up unnecessarily. Please just wait!!
Watching those first two clips, seeing how blissfully unaware of the danger these guys put themselves into picking fights with a metal box it occurred to me.... You probably wouldn't see a woman doing that sort if thing.
Chaponabike will be the usual ex uni lanky bearded drip who works in Architecture, Software development or Legal. They all do. Single is also common trait. Halitosis a bonus.
Roundabout procedure : if you negotiate a roundabout in the outside ( right hand ) lane , you should exit in the outside ( right hand ) lane where the exit road has two lanes : this facilitates better traffic flow and it is quite correct for left turning traffic to proceed as long as they leave the other lane available to traffic exiting the roundabout when they were already in the outside lane . Changing lanes from right to left BEFORE you exit a roundabout is poor driving , you should ALWAYS exit in the same lane you negotiated the roundabout in .
You really haven't got a clue have you Derek. You just make rules up for yourself and go with your own opinion. Have you ever looked at the highway code about roundabout procedure?
1:53 goodness gracious me! Chaponabike is a bit of a [insert favourite insult of choice for people who create hassle and then play victim] Glad I’m no longer on social media tbh, it’s getting worse as people fight for views Fair analysis of all three clips, can’t fault your opinions there! I ride & drive, and I drive “Big Boy” stuff, (artics), and I drive in a courteous and caring manner. If there aint room to pass safely, I aint passing, be that on the bike or in the truck.
301 bus is on Beresford Street - Premier Inn on opposite side of the road First one - the first cyclist overtaking the car after it had stopped should have given a wider berth of the car, regardless as to whether the door was going to be opened or not. Driver clearly didn't look over his shoulder or even do the Dutch-reach - nightmare to sort out if he'd hit someone going past. My thoughts on the second one - should have stayed in the left lane going around the rbt, going too fast is what leads to the scenario developing the way it does, that amount of speed has to straight line it but he didn't need to do anything after the car was in front; aside from passing the Mercedes the way he did, but to then sit behind the van that close without having any view as to what was in front. Think both of those first two should have a look at how they ride before they end up on the tarmac.
Time for the cycling community to stand up and voice their displeasure of all these "engineered" videos. It will be an honest, careful rider who is hurt or maybe even killed when a short fused driver takes offence. I was taught to look out for all road users, and I started legally driving in 1972, when traffic was much lighter than today. Further, there were bicycles being ridden by workers going to work and children going to school, etc, and we didn't need legislation to leave safe passing distances. We had common sense and manners, something in short supply by all road users these days.
I agree, and whoever is commenting on these videos is pandering to the clicks as well. Why doesn't everyone get on a bike, then they would know stopping distances are not as good as cars with rim brakes. When drivers slam their brakes on Infront of you it is extremely dangerous for the cyclists. Something you wouldn't understand unless you ride a bike with rim brakes.
@tim-williams Tim, it's up to you to leave a big enough gap and maintain stopping distance. Do you want drivers to stop and check what brakes you're using before they react to hazards?
I’m a cyclist (and driver) and in that first clip I think a decent driver (which I think most people are) could have seen the cyclist making a stupid move and fix thy cyclist’s mistake and give them room. It looks like the cyclist lost it because the driver didn’t fix the cyclist’s mistake like most people usually do for him. And because he’s probably done something like that so often, he thinks it’s usual for people to fix his mistakes.
Those first two clips are so frustrating. When will these people understand that road use is supposed to be a cooperative not a combative/competitive endeavour?
3:46 "I want 1.5 meters space to keep me safe.... unless i want a confrontation" cycling that close to moving vehicle is dangerous, regardless of who is overtaking. If a parked car door had opened and the car swerved the cyclist would have been in a lot of trouble
"I'm a vulnerable road user and I'm going to try and start a road rage incident!" - never seems like a wise idea for the vulnerable one to me. Good thing the guy who opened his car and got out (I'm sure I've seen this classed as a definition of road rage in some countries, with psychological evaluation as the punishment in the most sensible ones) actually turned out to be mild mannered, or chickened out of starting a fight.
Must get to destination trumps 'must get in front'. When commuting you are just losing time by having altercations, time you will never get back. Just clear the hazard and keep on. I find cyclists that get involved with altercations to be so embarrassing. It is a bit silly.
No it isn't. Of course cyclists get hate partly because the overall standard of cycling on the roads is poor. But there's so much irrational hatred of cyclists it's unreal. Cycling should be seen as a net positive for society. Divisive bs like this comment is just making the conversation more and more toxic.
Second driver probably slowed down because he realised the cyclist had a camera strapped to his helmet and didnt want to get points for speeding in the 20 zone
Why did the rider think it was safe to overtake the leading cycle when there was a car to his immediate right. In the second clip the van driver was switched on to what was happening behind and gave multiple flashes of the brakes to warn the cyclist that he was intending to slow for the oncoming bus. The third clip is in Woolwich heading west past the Woolwich ferry and the old Woolwich Arsenal.
In this hostile day and age, it just isn't worth antagonising drivers. If someone makes an error, regardless of whether it is perceived as intentional or not, it is best to just let it go. Getting involved, people have sadly been killed as the situation escalates.
I admit I would have taken the line Silvio did, but I would have been slower and also have signalled and taken responsibility for separation if the Mercedes turned left (as it did) and not been bothered.
In the wet and if traffic allows i often straight line to avoid any spillage of Diesel that might be on roundabouts , been caught out a couple times on slippery corners in the wet due to spillage .
@@uptowndisco2 that's a good point. Where I have most commonly cycled (to and from work at various times) did not have any routes for large trucks but I imagine that is not uncommon in places.
if you want videos to show how not to be safe and a cyclist that takes risks a lot, Silvio's videos are very good for that from the ones i have seen. i think i only seen 1 video where his cycling was actually ok and safe for the situation lol
Last autumn I accused someone of being coy about the very existence of camera cyclists creating incidents for content, and even said it wasn't the worst thing given a certain level of competernce. But I was assuming a level of subtlety that at least makes it fun to call these guys out. I mean, Silvio. Come on.
He's becoming more an more obvious, when you look at his general behaviour as well as his favourite hot spots you really begin to build a picture that he always seems to be in the worst position for each situation.
I think criticism of the 1st rider is correct, he just pulled out to do a poor overtake giving the overtaking driver no chance to adjust. Additionally the criticism of the 2nd Rider and his behavior "after" the car pulled out on him was wrong... However, I don't think the rider was in the wrong to be on the right of the roundabout as it said straight ahead both lanes, additionally you cannot assume he didn't provide a hand signal.. the pulling out of that car was dreadful and dangerous. I don't think you can blame the cyclist for that. There is no excuse for pulling out there if there is swiftly approaching oncoming traffic regardless of the lane. The cyclist could have been in the left hand lane but the fault and initial poor driving was from the Mercedes driver....
1:53 goodness gracious me! Chaponabike is a bit of a [insert favourite insult of choice for people who create hassle and then play victim] Glad I’m no longer on social media tbh, it’s getting worse as people fight for views
1:21 - Like any women, he's chosen this moment to figuratively try to cause a scene, as he's noticed cops 3:03 - I'll never pull out in these circumstances. That would be relying on the skills of others on the road, which would be sew-ee-side-all. I do not see people become triggered if an overtake is done correctly. Not where I'm from. But when I dated a women from N. Ireland, those guys think you've slighted their manhood if you overtake. Triggered like kids around popping balloons.
Another thing to mention in the first clip is the pov cyclist made a poor overtake on the other. He had no space but decided to do a close pass on that uninvolved cyclist, putting him in danger. The irony is he's complaining about being closely passed whilst closely passing the other cyclists himself.
Yep. It's the hitting the ground bit that usually hurts the most so it doesn't much matter what knocks you off your bike.
The bloke's a complete tool and I wouldn't be surprised if someone gets violent with him one day. Though I suspect he chooses carefully who he plays silly buggers with, his sort usually do.
To be fair that is probably the worst place I've ever seen for a two way bike lane.
There is a reason why vehicles should not close pass a cyclist - They create a slip stream caused by being aero-dynamic which can cause a cyclist to wobble, the faster the worse the situation. A cyclist doesn't create a slipstream of the same magnitude and wont cause another rider to wobble. Same situation occurs when lorries overtake cars on motorways.
Excuses excuses
@@bradfordzone5187bollox. You could get a pedal or a mirror caught up in the other bike, and cycling by it’s very nature causes a wobble which if not synchronised with the other cyclist will double the closed gap. And there’s the unexpected nature of close passes, it can make you jump. Stop making cycle excuses and learn to be a civilised road user.
"Be careful" he says after forcing himself between a car and another bike.
And failing to leave 1.5mtrs. 😂
Another entitled cyclist. They want all 'their rights' but no responsibility😊
Yes a "Jeremy Vine" is now a synonym for an "complete entitled tossser on a bike".
@@regbarnard2866
You'll be getting wrong off the cyclist mob x
In Belgium, cyclists have way when they join the road when the cycling path they're on merges onto the highway. It's not an explicit rule, but it's because you have to give way to the right on junctions. So legally, they would be in the wrong.
And I myself do quite agree with this ruling. Cars should preferably give way to joining cycle paths. But I'm not saying you shouldn't watch out for cars as a cyclist in that instance either.
Right, I've said my thing. You all have a great day!!!
"and stop doing the Jeremy" 😂
That made me smile as well.
I'm guessing Vine, not Clarkson. 😀
@@frankhaney8535 Clarkson? .. on a bicycle..? in London?.. He'd either have a heart attack at the effort, or be lynched!! LOL
@@frankhaney8535 Definitely not Clarkson. In fact he's even more anti-cyclist. He said once and I quote "they can fuck right off" 😂
i would suggest this is hypocrisy of ashley. no need for the comment which was sure to antagonise. follow his own advice this time i'm afraid.
Jeremy is his idol 😂
The first clip looks like the ultimate make something from a non event
Yes, the driver was close when the cycle lane ended but, similar to ours up here, the lane just ends without good warning and the ending can be ( not really an excuse though) hidden in the nearside a-pillar. However, the driver realised they wouldn’t be able to make the turn so held back and was then blocked from turning. The beep perhaps unnecessary in this instance but it wasn’t an aggressive beep in my opinion and if the driver hadn’t explained the use I would’ve actually taken it as a “Oops, sorry buddy. Didn’t realise the turn was as close as it was”
I ride 2 days a week in C London. One of the things other cyclists do that annoys (and endangers) me no end, is choosing to overtake other cyclists at the WORST POSSIBLE TIME. They so often do it at traffic lights where everybody is already bunched up in the cycle lane (and people turning both left and right at the junction) and yet STILL try to squeeze through where you could hardly get a cigarette paper between one lane and the other let alone a bike. They also LOVE to try and muscle into the people on the left of them (I always stay to the left, hugging the curb keeping out of the way) to avoid the people coming towards them. I had to shout at a woman on Tues for almost knocking me off as she tried to squeeze through between me and the people coming the opposite direction (who were also overtaking). They love to shout at motorists about 1.5 meters but often give other cyclists less than 1.5mm when passing. Today I was driving along a stretch of road with a bike lane on the left. Completely empty as I'm driving along, but there's a Lycra lout steaming down the outside of me. He passes the car in front of me as traffic slows and sweeps across the front towards the bike lane and nearly hits a mountain biker who is just trundling along minding his own business and riding responsibly. These are the kind of people who give ALL road users a bad name.
Good post friend. You're clearly a responsible cyclist. Hats off to yo❤
@@suziforester TBH I don't understand why it's so rare that people think of their own safety and the safety of others. Surely the whole point of any travel is to get where you're going with the least possible risk of death to yourself or others...I can never understand why people race at great risk to themselves and others, just to get to a destination a few seconds earlier (if they make it at all). Even if I'm late for work, I'd rather explain to my boss why I'm late, than explain to the Police why I killed someone rushing to work.
@@caeserromero3013
I concur....enjoy the journey. Its a good journey if you arrive safe and well without incident
@AnthonyStafford-qx5hx How can that be accurate?
Most deaths on the roads are cause by car drivers, and most of the dead were inside a car, and the next biggest user group of dead people is pedestrians, then motorbike riders and lastly, bicycle riders.
Feel free to do some research prior to posting a comment.
I hit a long tailback on the motorway pretty much every morning and have done for years. My strategy if you can call it that is to relax, hang back from the car in front perhaps 20 or 30 feet and travel at the average slow speed of the traffic in second gear just to ease stress and strain on my brake lights, clutch and overall sanity. I like to sip on my nice cup of tea while I am at it. This overall behaviour seems to absolutely infuriate some drivers (quite often lorry drivers) who will tailgate me trying to push me closer to the traffic in front even though they are not getting anywhere any more quickly. Some drivers also don't like the idea of me "letting the occasional driver pull in in front of me" either. They don't seem to understand that the 3rd driver is either going to pull in where he/she just has or is otherwise going to drive on and pull in somewhere ahead anyway thus making very little difference to the overall equation of time and stress. Also, it's quite strange how fast tailbacks actually travel if you slow down and let the traffic evaporate in front. People need to learn to relax in the morning not get unnecessarily wound up.
at 3:30 Mercedes possibly saw 20 speed marking on road?
Speed cameras.
I'm not sure the driver could see much with what look to be illegal tints on the windows.
Yes, and to that note, I wonder what Silvio’s speeds were like through the 20?
@@johnb8956why would that matter?
@@maskofsan1ty Because unexpected speed cuts down reaction times
Cycles right into a small gap between a cyclist and a car... "oooh you're a bit close"
Yep.....a complete prat. Want all of their "rights" but will accept NO responsibility
Every single time I ride my bike I encounter multiple cars which fail to give way to me and close pass me. I simply keep riding as safely as possible and don't gesture / communicate with them at all. They clearly shouldn't have driving licenses but me telling them that isn't going to help anyone and if they hate bikes that much they may run me over if I antagonise them. I just smile and enjoy the fact I will be healthier and better off financially after my commute than they will be.
I dont cycle anymore. Im not well enough. But ive done milledge, country, city and town. Summer motor bike gloves with kevlar knuckles wracked on their passenger window soon gets you the distance they should be giving you.
@@steven482 I dislike you.
I looked at some of the cyling twitter stuff and wow it reminds me of dealing with flat earthers 😂
Don't know flat earthers.... the flat earth society has thousands of members from all around the globe.
Mercedes clearly slowed down for the speed camera on the opposite side which prompted the overtake "wanton and furious cycling" and the mercedes sped up after the camera....
The oddest part is, it's not like they're out on a lovely country lane with the sun on their backs and some looney deliberately spoils their day. They're always in traffic, in town, in the rain, causing hassle and generally having a shit time. How not to be a cyclist.
And they constantly accuse everyone of not being real cyclists.
@DonaldDonaldson-ug9lp It's called a group ride, y'know, socialising while exercising while also getting fresh air and being in nature. It's good, you should try it.
@@hendrixinfinity3992collectively doing a Jeremy
@@johnrea2115 Doing a Jeremy is going out of your way to create or instigate a situation for content, not riding your bike with friends. Someone needs to grow up.
What? So you’re not a cyclist if you commute by bike?
I love the term engineered events. It is very accurate
Over 20 years ago, I got cross at a car pulling out from a Tesco, on the obligatory supermarket access roundabout. I tailgated them angrily for a kilometre until I realised there were kids in the car, I was being a dick, and it hadn’t caused any significant delay. Since then I’m way more chill…..it’s not worth it.
Brilliant video Ash. Completely sums it up in a positive way.
I'm going to be honest, as a cyclist the biggest sin this chaponabike did was pass another cyclist very close without ringing his bell to tell him he's there.
Just catching up with your latest clips Ash. Totally agree with your analysis of the first clip here re the order the three road users should have gone in. And how ironic that the interaction occurred right opposite where a police car was parked. I was almost expecting an officer to get out of the patrol csr to see what was going on.
"stop doing a Jeremy" - took me a second to realise you didn't mean Clarkson 😂
If it was the other Jeremy, it would be "stop being a Jeremy".
At first I had though Hunt
@@stu176mmm
Yes boss...just not spelled the same
So many cyclists and motorists are now 'doing a Jeremy'. I think they're on some sort of power trip.
I had seen the silvio clip and thought it was pathetic trying to make point. Ok the car entered but all silvio needed to do was exit in the right lane then tuck in behind
I suspect Silvio has yet to discover the perils of wet roads and the manhole cover.
Really? Because the wet road was probably why he straight lined the roundabout.
@@maskofsan1ty There are no manhole covers on the roundabout.
@@veritasaequitas9875 correct
@@maskofsan1ty So I don't understand your point.
Why is the roundabout relevant to my original comment.
@veritasaequitas9875 roads are slippery in the wet.
In the second clip you can see the shadow of the cyclist off his saddle and standing on his pedals to try and get as close as he can to the Merc to have the confrontation that follows.
As the lyrics on a famous Disney film states “ let it go let it go “ , sorry cheesy but I had to .👍
Regarding the Silvio clip, I'm not sure how else I would have approached the roundabout differently as a cyclist except being a bit slower and more cautious. In general, I find roundabouts are especially tricky for cyclists due to cyclists having a thin profile making them hard to see as you mentioned due to A-pillar blindspots. I think it would be a great topic to cover in a video to learn how to safely approach and navigate a roundabout as a cyclist.
Tom Scott did an excellent video about a cyclist killed at a New Forest junction layout which induced 'A' pillar blindness in an oncoming driver. The oblique angle of the junction meant the cyclist and the car approached the same point without the driver ever being able to see him. A tragic.accident, resulting in a re-configuring of the junction.
Get off... and walk around it pushing the bike as a pedestrian on the pavement....?
@@chrisl1797 and why should they do that?
The main point on roundabout as a drive and as a cyclist is to take them carefully and be constantly watching for entering /exiting traffic and adjusting as appropriate
Almost every issue I see or encounter at roundabout is due to impatience and/or taking the roundabout too fast.
Plus sometimes a dash of unwillingness to accommodate for people who have found themselves in wrong position
@@TheHitcher30 Why not if it is sketchy to ride round it. There is a roundabout near me that I won't turn right at (in my car). On the odd occasion I have used it I have made three left turns. Much safer.
With a username like chaponabike you can tell what the content is gonna be like!
The 3rd clip starts on Beresford Street in Woolwich London SE18, heading NW, just before the junction with Macbean Street.
Yes, they are travelling on the A206 and the roundabout they are crossing is the A205/A2204 down to the ferry crossing. White building far side is the New Wine Church next to Deluxe Riverview.
@@AndiusPandius "Ferry Terminal" I think, calling it a fully fledged "Port" is giving it airs and graces above its station I fear.
@@ianmason. 🤣Duly edited!
chaponabike close passed TWO other road users at once. and then had the audacity to complain about the car being close.
The driver in the first clip handled the interaction perfectly.
To me he broke two rules. Don't blow your horn or get out of your car when someone does something like this, it will make things worse.
Not always getting out your car can often calm people @metromadness2016
Wrong; people shouldn't ever get out of their car.
I'm a motorbike rider and a bicycle rider; anyone, car driver or otherwise, that comes marching up to me with a stern expression and breaches a two metre exclusion zone gets a free trip to hospital.
If I had a car, I wouldn't get out of it to get in someone's face. I don't ever get of my bike to confront someone, no matter what has occurred.
it should be series, I'm sure there is plenty to analyse
Too many clips on -Twitter- X…not enough time 😁
1:08, people like this are infuriating. They go out of their way to cause trouble then blame everyone else when things go wrong.
3:22 the Mercedes was braking because there was a speed camera in a 20 mph zone, then both went on to exceed the speed limit after the camera had been passed, kept leap frogging each other until stuck behind a van.
I'm glad someone is finally exposing these cyclists.
What I like about the second one is.
He got out of the saddle, putting a bit of a shift to catch the car, and then cycled on the wrong side of the road to make a point. What a gent. Meaning even the cyclist coming from the opposite direction took a minor change.
And the first one. What a condescending gent. If he comes and and said he was a gent, I'd have nothing more than absolute admiration.
This... 99.9% of cyclists are mint. When I cycle, I don't want a close pass. But neither do I really need 1.5m. I mean, if I did. I probably shouldn't be cycling..
I think you do.
At say 18mph - not fast - you are running at 8m/s and a hazard can appear very quickly, say a pothole.
You need space to manoeuvre around that safely.
Equally the motor vehicle may swerve,
@@mattwardman I mean, you don’t. I like room, but having cars dart to the opposite side of the roads because they are scared of being too close/filmed and reported. Come on. I’m not saying a close pass. Different opinions etc. Back to the video. Are we saying the car in the first clip passed closely, technically yes. But come on, no normal cyclist would have cared.
@@philipjames3526
On 1.5m, it's simply yes - we do.
My experience is that a significant % of drivers are effectively asleep, and don't look beyond the end of their bonnet. When cycling, I always have a Pass Pixi (reflective speed camera type sign) on the back of my cycle, so I'm running Schrodinger's video cameras, and it makes a big difference.
If overtaking motor vehicles need to dart anywhere to give as much space to a cycle or motorbike as they would a car, it is not a safe overtake and they should wait. That's classic "Must Get In Front".
I can see no overtakes in the first clip; there is the other cyclist on a separated cycle track, and a motorist in the carriageway alongside. It would be better with a median, of course. If it is an overtake then the motorist is overtaking through a traffic calming feature, which is frowned on by the HWC.
The painted cycle lane is a mess; they increase collisions and casualties (we have the evidence) partly because they encourage driving to the near side of the lane. It would most probably be safer without it. I'd argue that that street should perhaps be one way, and the network adjusted.
Chaponabike obviously tightens it up too much.
BTW, I like your standing jump; I'm part owner of a Crossfit gym.
@@mattwardman If you are travelling so fast that you cannot anticipate a fixed hazard, you aren't paying proper attention according to the law. That works for all road users. No-one should be swerving suddenly. Cyclists don't pass wide either, yet a car could swerve.
@@fakecrusader I think you're missing it - in the scenario under discussion the cyclist has seen the fixed hazard and we have the 1.5m clearance to drive around it.
Motor vehicles swerve suddenly if the driver has not noticed something until the last minute, and they habitually go far faster than cycles.
Unfiortunately it is impossible to tell whether a random driver in a random vehicle will not swerve suddenly as they "should", or will even see something straight in front of their nose.
They drive into lamp posts, they drive into the front room of people's houses, they drive too fast into a setting sun when they should be at walking pace, they drive into pedestrian refuges, they drive straight through lights on red because they "do not see".
They drive into things directly in front of them - from pedestrians and cyclists right up to police vehicles in full livery with blues and twos running.
Then they lie to the police about what happened. Then they lie to the Court. Then they lie to themselves.
Vulnerable road users can't trust that, which is why we have the 1.5m rule. Fortunately people who violate it are more likely than ever to get 6 reward points to display proudly on their license, which is a very good thing.
Sorry for taking such a blunt position, but that's where I stand.
A couple of clip hunters today. First one is just a bonehead. No idea what he thought was going on there.
Second clip, maybe the sun had a part to play. Long shadows pointing directly at the driver’s window of the Mercedes. Add in poor riding, possible reflection or glare off the damp roads and a rider with a clear ego problem and you’ve got a concoction for nonsense.
Excellent analysis as always and I happen to concur.
Them versus us mentality.....
It really needs to end ASAP.
FYI @Ash - eventually got to view your upload with DCH and posted appropriately but it was at "Silly O'Clock" this morning 😂 lol.
I'm waiting for you and Mikey to find common ground but can't help but wonder if that will ever happen 😮
Last clip is in Woolwich. Second clip is in Gypsy Hill, London. Right near where I live and people (bikes and cars) straight line that roundabout all the time. I stick to the left hand lane when going straight ahead and people frequently try to over take me and cut in front, usually because they are pissed off with me for sticky to the 20mph limit when coming down the hill from Crystal Palace.
2:39 also looking at the shadows the sun is quite low down and directly behind the cyclist so likely couldn't see the cyclist there either
Good extra point this!
On the first clip the driver should have seen the first cyclist and been slowing to stop in order to give him priority across the junction.
The second clip Silvio took a straight line due to the wet road. How fast was the silver car going after the roundabout ? It certainly looks more than 20 mph
The behaviours of the biker and the driver from the third clip were funny.
Second clip..... I have a suspicion here that they are BOTH riding in tandem to create content.
car drivers being triggered by cyclists overtaking (or taking/having their right of way for that matter) are well within the worst 10-20% of drivers
It's alot harder to find a gap and it's like overtaking a long vehical with 1.5m clearance
24th October 2020 - Silvio has a similar issue doing the same thing on this very roundabout.
I have to agree with you, Ashley - poor riding/driving in these clips. One thing that does cross my mind is that, no matter who is at fault, the driver of the car/van/lorry is never going to be the one getting physically hurt in bike-vehicle encounters. That invincible metal shell gives its occupants a certain privilege of invulnerability.
Exactly! Which makes the purposeful more vulnerable cyclists in these clips even more idiotic.
These twitter cyclists do it on purpose in a hope of the vehicle driver getting into trouble with the police knowing that their poor road use will go without punishment.
Invincible? Factually wrong. There is potential for physical harm, but there are other types of harm that can occur that bad road users don't think of. Which makes this farming for content even worse.
Cyclists...you want all your rights...but not the responsibilty...it is incumbent on yourselves to ride safely and minimise the risk of harm. Regardless who is at fault, nothing will bring you back from the slab in the morgue...so your first action needs to be,
BE RESPONSIBLE
After what Ashley said about the other dashcam channels I'm glad I'm one of the few dashcam channels that dos not act out and make things worse like the others.
I have to admit that I used to ride like Silvio when I was younger. Just had a massive chip on my shoulder. Most people grow out of it, sadly many who don't grow out of it choose to become dash cam drivers or cyclists.
I do find it odd how your comments on this video are all people complaining about 'cyclists' but your clips with drivers never cause people to complain about 'drivers', even though 'drivers' kill about 1000 times more people each year in the UK....
That was the most polite road rage I have seen (from the white van driver)
I'd be a bit peeved if someone fishing for content was blocking my path also
Final clip starts at Beresford street junction with Macbean street Woolwich
'He was a big CONTributing factor ' 😂
On the second clip, the Mercedes could be slowing as that's where the fixed speed camera zone is and the satnav may have chimed. It's only a 20 zone, within a cyclist's speed window, and it's just by the camera that Silvio overtakes (into oncoming traffic...). Once past the camera (and the zebra crossing's zigzags) the Mercedes increases speed and overtakes. Then they both catch up with the van maintaining 20.
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The last clip is near the Woolwich Ferry.
Thought so! Few years back we did a long walk from South Quay/Island Gardens past Cutty Sark etc along to Woolwich, sorta recognised the buildings (which were still being built when I was there haha)
I agree first two are plums. Though I think his speed in second video was the reason for cutting the roundabout.
yeah the cars already on the roundabout should have stopped and given way to the cyclist so he could get his best strava time
The camera can make things look different to reality, but my sense immediately was that the cyclist was riding too fast on a potentially slippy road surface, so cut the roundabout as a result.
Third clip is on the A206 south circular in Woolwich
Great video sir Ashley!
i love engineered events
So do I. They give me so much to analyse.
First time I saw a Chapona Bike clip analysed by Ashley (passing an obligingly short-fused BMW driver stopped on zebra zigzags), I made a few comments including one or two suggesting that the camera was the decisive factor in how he chose to ride. Chapona popped up, replying to me "Good point! I don't post boring clips, that's for sure...".
The 2nd clip is similar to the one I sent you on X with the A pillar blind spot. I think him being in the right lane did contribute.
Why is the cyclist in the opposing lane at 3:42 with oncoming traffic but not overtaking? Looks like the driver had to take evasive action to make it safe for everyone
When two egos get into a tarmac war there are no winners, only danger and the lack of seeing it
That chap sounds very much like Mikey who causes chaos in London !
I'm familiar with all locations. On the first clip, the discussion happened in front of Kingston Police station. On the second one, the car might have slowed down because of a speed camera, albeit only for the opposite direction of travel.
The last clip was London by the Woolwich ferry
Spoiler Alert: Silvio gets himself doored by a car parked on the opposite side of the road.
last clip is in Woolwich, South East London.
In the Silvio clip, the Mercedes might have slowed dpwn for the speed camera.
The biker and the black golf is in Woolwich
The irony of chaponabike complaining about the car close passing when he just close passed that other cyclist
I find the worst "must get in front" examples are those where, despite having a clear road behind you, a vehicle pulls out in front and then, instead of accelerating, holds you up unnecessarily. Please just wait!!
Macbean street junction with Beresford street (royal sovereign House on left)😊
Brilliant video and comments.
Watching those first two clips, seeing how blissfully unaware of the danger these guys put themselves into picking fights with a metal box it occurred to me.... You probably wouldn't see a woman doing that sort if thing.
Chaponabike will be the usual ex uni lanky bearded drip who works in Architecture, Software development or Legal. They all do. Single is also common trait. Halitosis a bonus.
Roundabout procedure : if you negotiate a roundabout in the outside ( right hand ) lane , you should exit in the outside ( right hand ) lane where the exit road has two lanes : this facilitates better traffic flow and it is quite correct for left turning traffic to proceed as long as they leave the other lane available to traffic exiting the roundabout when they were already in the outside lane . Changing lanes from right to left BEFORE you exit a roundabout is poor driving , you should ALWAYS exit in the same lane you negotiated the roundabout in .
You really haven't got a clue have you Derek. You just make rules up for yourself and go with your own opinion. Have you ever looked at the highway code about roundabout procedure?
1:53 goodness gracious me! Chaponabike is a bit of a [insert favourite insult of choice for people who create hassle and then play victim]
Glad I’m no longer on social media tbh, it’s getting worse as people fight for views
Fair analysis of all three clips, can’t fault your opinions there!
I ride & drive, and I drive “Big Boy” stuff, (artics), and I drive in a courteous and caring manner. If there aint room to pass safely, I aint passing, be that on the bike or in the truck.
301 bus is on Beresford Street - Premier Inn on opposite side of the road
First one - the first cyclist overtaking the car after it had stopped should have given a wider berth of the car, regardless as to whether the door was going to be opened or not. Driver clearly didn't look over his shoulder or even do the Dutch-reach - nightmare to sort out if he'd hit someone going past.
My thoughts on the second one - should have stayed in the left lane going around the rbt, going too fast is what leads to the scenario developing the way it does, that amount of speed has to straight line it but he didn't need to do anything after the car was in front; aside from passing the Mercedes the way he did, but to then sit behind the van that close without having any view as to what was in front.
Think both of those first two should have a look at how they ride before they end up on the tarmac.
Time for the cycling community to stand up and voice their displeasure of all these "engineered" videos. It will be an honest, careful rider who is hurt or maybe even killed when a short fused driver takes offence. I was taught to look out for all road users, and I started legally driving in 1972, when traffic was much lighter than today. Further, there were bicycles being ridden by workers going to work and children going to school, etc, and we didn't need legislation to leave safe passing distances. We had common sense and manners, something in short supply by all road users these days.
I agree, and whoever is commenting on these videos is pandering to the clicks as well. Why doesn't everyone get on a bike, then they would know stopping distances are not as good as cars with rim brakes. When drivers slam their brakes on Infront of you it is extremely dangerous for the cyclists. Something you wouldn't understand unless you ride a bike with rim brakes.
@tim-williams Tim, it's up to you to leave a big enough gap and maintain stopping distance. Do you want drivers to stop and check what brakes you're using before they react to hazards?
@@davetkd666
Cyclists...they want all their "rights" but no responsibility
@@davetkd666 no the highway code says the cyclist has priority over a car.
@@tim-williams no it doesn't, go read it properly.
What was that first one called again? Sounded like "Chav On A Bike"?😏😏
I’m a cyclist (and driver) and in that first clip I think a decent driver (which I think most people are) could have seen the cyclist making a stupid move and fix thy cyclist’s mistake and give them room. It looks like the cyclist lost it because the driver didn’t fix the cyclist’s mistake like most people usually do for him. And because he’s probably done something like that so often, he thinks it’s usual for people to fix his mistakes.
Love the last comment by Ashley .... stop doing a Jeremy, lol
Clarkson isn’t too bad nowadays though 🤔
Those first two clips are so frustrating. When will these people understand that road use is supposed to be a cooperative not a combative/competitive endeavour?
The London one looks like Beresford Street Lambeth
They have different traffic lights in London.
3:46 "I want 1.5 meters space to keep me safe.... unless i want a confrontation" cycling that close to moving vehicle is dangerous, regardless of who is overtaking. If a parked car door had opened and the car swerved the cyclist would have been in a lot of trouble
"I'm a vulnerable road user and I'm going to try and start a road rage incident!"
- never seems like a wise idea for the vulnerable one to me.
Good thing the guy who opened his car and got out (I'm sure I've seen this classed as a definition of road rage in some countries, with psychological evaluation as the punishment in the most sensible ones) actually turned out to be mild mannered, or chickened out of starting a fight.
I love cycling but when i see these clips I just shake my head. So embarassing...
You. Issued the key thing about the ‘chaponabike’ clip ! He only did that because they were directly outside a police station.
The last cyclist also cycled through the red and amber lights - which is an offence
Must get to destination trumps 'must get in front'. When commuting you are just losing time by having altercations, time you will never get back. Just clear the hazard and keep on.
I find cyclists that get involved with altercations to be so embarrassing. It is a bit silly.
5:12 This is the A206 in Woolwich.
Clip 1, this is why cyclists get so much hate
No it isn't. Of course cyclists get hate partly because the overall standard of cycling on the roads is poor. But there's so much irrational hatred of cyclists it's unreal. Cycling should be seen as a net positive for society. Divisive bs like this comment is just making the conversation more and more toxic.
Second driver probably slowed down because he realised the cyclist had a camera strapped to his helmet and didnt want to get points for speeding in the 20 zone
Why did the rider think it was safe to overtake the leading cycle when there was a car to his immediate right. In the second clip the van driver was switched on to what was happening behind and gave multiple flashes of the brakes to warn the cyclist that he was intending to slow for the oncoming bus. The third clip is in Woolwich heading west past the Woolwich ferry and the old Woolwich Arsenal.
In this hostile day and age, it just isn't worth antagonising drivers. If someone makes an error, regardless of whether it is perceived as intentional or not, it is best to just let it go. Getting involved, people have sadly been killed as the situation escalates.
If the first was in such a hurry (overtaking), why then stop immediately after? Lack of logic!
I admit I would have taken the line Silvio did, but I would have been slower and also have signalled and taken responsibility for separation if the Mercedes turned left (as it did) and not been bothered.
In the wet and if traffic allows i often straight line to avoid any spillage of Diesel that might be on roundabouts , been caught out a couple times on slippery corners in the wet due to spillage .
@@uptowndisco2 that's a good point. Where I have most commonly cycled (to and from work at various times) did not have any routes for large trucks but I imagine that is not uncommon in places.
if you want videos to show how not to be safe and a cyclist that takes risks a lot, Silvio's videos are very good for that from the ones i have seen. i think i only seen 1 video where his cycling was actually ok and safe for the situation lol
Last autumn I accused someone of being coy about the very existence of camera cyclists creating incidents for content, and even said it wasn't the worst thing given a certain level of competernce. But I was assuming a level of subtlety that at least makes it fun to call these guys out. I mean, Silvio. Come on.
He's becoming more an more obvious, when you look at his general behaviour as well as his favourite hot spots you really begin to build a picture that he always seems to be in the worst position for each situation.
Squeezes between the car and the other bike then complains about the space he put himself into... just be aware of what is around you! Beep deserved.
I think criticism of the 1st rider is correct, he just pulled out to do a poor overtake giving the overtaking driver no chance to adjust.
Additionally the criticism of the 2nd Rider and his behavior "after" the car pulled out on him was wrong... However, I don't think the rider was in the wrong to be on the right of the roundabout as it said straight ahead both lanes, additionally you cannot assume he didn't provide a hand signal.. the pulling out of that car was dreadful and dangerous. I don't think you can blame the cyclist for that.
There is no excuse for pulling out there if there is swiftly approaching oncoming traffic regardless of the lane. The cyclist could have been in the left hand lane but the fault and initial poor driving was from the Mercedes driver....
signalling straight on a bike tends to make people think you are from 1940's germany, tend to avoid that one
1:53 goodness gracious me! Chaponabike is a bit of a [insert favourite insult of choice for people who create hassle and then play victim]
Glad I’m no longer on social media tbh, it’s getting worse as people fight for views
Silvio will end up confronting the wrong person sooner rather than later if he carries on cycling with that sort of agenda.
Maybe the reason for straight-lining the roundabout is speed and wet conditions. Why give justifications for the merc emerging?
1:21 - Like any women, he's chosen this moment to figuratively try to cause a scene, as he's noticed cops
3:03 - I'll never pull out in these circumstances. That would be relying on the skills of others on the road, which would be sew-ee-side-all.
I do not see people become triggered if an overtake is done correctly. Not where I'm from. But when I dated a women from N. Ireland, those guys think you've slighted their manhood if you overtake. Triggered like kids around popping balloons.