Seen one of your short vids, and it reminded me of when I got my daughter her first car; it needed brake pads so I taught her how to change them herself, ( she found it also needed new rotors ). She was so mad at me for telling her that she needed to do this before she could drive it. Fast forward 15 years, and she called me to say that she had a flat tire on her jeep on a back road, with her two young son's; and the few vehicles that came down that road; just passed her by. She then told me that if I had not made learn how to change her own brake pads; she would have never known how to safely change the tire herself, ( her husband was deployed at the time to Afgan during OEF ), and she thanked me for putting her through the experience or she would have been stuck. Peace
I stayed with 275/70/17 Toyo open country’s simply because I drive a lot and gas mileage is important. No rubbing at all the truck rides very smooth. I have a 2 inch lift and I just put on Dirt King upper control arms. I think 285’s would be cool but these trucks lack power and are very thirsty. So good luck to all of you out there.
Do you rub at all during full locks or hitting bumps? 2in front is the back raised up at all? Also did you have to do any CMC/BMC? I'm deciding to go with 275 or 285 to avoid any major cutting. Thanks!
@@dalvenp no no rubbing, no cutting. I don’t have a lift for the rear. I have a 2 inch suspension lift in the front. I went with 275’s cause I drive a lot. Remember Toyo tires aren’t as wide as Wildpeaks or KO2’s. So if you go with those tires it might rub. I like the Toyos over the Wildpeaks because the toyos are 41lbs and WP were 51. Let me know if you have any other questions.
I run BFG 285/70/17 with 3.5” coil over lift, uca, and full leaf spring replacement from RC. With -12 offset the tires rubbed so I switched to 0 offset Method wheels and no issues at all. Would definitely suggest never going with block leveling kits due to the horrible ride.
Another great video. I wanted to just say that with 285 K02’s C load, I’m getting 17.5mpg which is close to stock for me. I daily my truck also. I don’t plan on doing any crazy off-roading until I have some armor. I think the C load would be great for your needs.
Yes More about what you learned while driving with the 285s would be great!! Also You really won't ever do and talk about tire and suspension information to much. Thanks for the video
Another thing about bigger tires is that i cant find anyone to recalibrate the PCS system. I had to disable it after i got a new windshield because nobody could recalibrate the PCS with the added height. Wish Toyota would address this instead of advising customers to disable the system
I've spent more time doing research on suspension lift and tires than any other mod that I've done for my 2022 OR. Because I don't do major off roading and just like to do trails, I went and got the TRD suspension kit done since my truck was still under warranty. So it was a 2 inch in the front and 1 inch in the back. I went with Goodyear Wrangler Ultraterrain 265 75R 16's for the tires. Bought TRD 16 inch wheels with a 0 offset. The whole setup works great for me but the research I did was exhausting. I still have that itch to go up to 285's, but then I see videos like this and other people wishing they had just stuck with the tire size I have.
285s are great on a Taco. My setup. Method 704 matte black, 17" 285 KO2s, leveled a TRD offroad (Pro Comp Nitro 3" Leveling Lift Kit), no cutting, no rubbing. Plan on replacing the Nitro 3" kit with back leaf springs + Fox 2.5 Elite on all 4 corners + upper control arms. Will keep it almost the same height as my current 3" Nitro level (+ or - a 1/2"). To be completely honest, 275s with this same setup would probably work better for my use case. O yea, great video Chloe.
While you can go larger if you want to throw a ton of money at your truck, 35" tires are the most you can reasonably put on the third gen Tacoma. A stock TRD Off Road can handle 255/85r16 (33.1"x10") tires on the stock wheels with MINOR rubbing when flexing in a turn With mild suspension lift (up to 3 inches) ye can mount 285/70r17 (32.7"x11.2") tires (by this point, brake upgrade is a good idea, but not essential. Always start with front brake upgrade I know the rear brake is a drum on many Tacomas, but the front is the majority of your stopping power all things equal) With 3" suspension, cab mount relocation, and some wheel well modifications you can fit 35" tires. ($1700 for ARB suspension, $750 for C4fab wheel well and cab mount modifications (can be done cheaper if you want to do some mods yourself), $200-350 per wheel plus $420 per tire) (by this point brake upgrades are strongly recommended)
You should change your gears when going to 285’s and certainly upgrade your brakes. Upgrading the brakes is the most important modification as you will have a noticeable increase in braking distance with 285’s as Toyota designed the braking system optimized for a smaller tire. But you know that as an engineer.
@@deviance8973 I’m not a Toyota guy so I can’t make a specific recommendation. Brembo, Alcon, StopTech and others of that caliber are all a good choice. I’m a desert racer and have had good luck with Wilwood - good technical support - I have had sponsorship from them so factor that in my answer. Wilwood is very affordable.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q all I know is I hardly brake at all. Increasing following distance I can see 4 cars in front so I coast or speed up when traffic is slowing or speeding up. After 20k miles I had almost no ware on my brake pads. Still over 80% life
Actually, most of the time you can install 285/70/17 tires on a stock or slightly lifted Tacoma/4Runner/FJ as long as you keep the stock wheels. Many people say it will rub the UCAs but it’s actually not true. About the lift, you don’t really need the lift until you replace the wheels. BTW, I have a lift, UCAs, 0 offset wheels, removed mud flaps and trimmed a little inner fenders… but the first argument is true on most Tacos
I got an Eibach 2.5 with SPC UCA's with 285's Yokohama Geolander MT. I'm also running KSP 1.5 wheel Spacers with the stock off road wheels. With the OTT tune help the 285's move.
If you’re planning on doing serious off-roading where you’re using the full range of your suspension, you WILL need to do some extensive cutting on 285’s, even on 0-offset methods. Fender liner delete, CMC, and pinch weld flattening minimum. Once the suspension is fully compressed you lose all the benefit of the lift and will rub, guaranteed. See @overlandoutfitters video on the subject of IFS suspension compression and oversized tires.
Question.. if bigger tire diameter throws off speedometer, wouldn't that throw off your mpg rating also? So you'd be getting more mpg than what's being calculated (although im sure its still lower than stock diameter)?
Thanks for sharing this! what is the largest sized tire you can put on a stock suspension? I've currently got the 245/75r16's. I don't plan on putting a lift kit on it just yet, but when I do I'm looking at a 1" maybe a 1.5" lift.
For sure you can go 265/75/16 with no lift. You may even try 285/75/16 but you must be sure you have enough clearance for the UCAs. There are many different wheel sizes and it’s actually the wheel offset and width the limiting factor, way more than the suspension lift. I would put a lift if you want a “mild off-roader” unless you actually want to install a top quality suspension lift (Icon, Fox, etc). For most people the best way is to keep it stock and install larger tires
Since you did a tune with the 265's and added a larger set of shoes your tune will be off a bit. Did you consider this as you mentioned a "bit of a lag"? I believe if you keep the 285's' on the Taco it should be recalibrated for the larger tires. BAT....bis ass tires!
When you go bigger in tires you need to change your rear and front gears. 35s I believe I have 4:56:1 gears used you get the power back and gas mileage also.
Maybe slightly bigger. But it's gonna be hard on those gears. Don't be surprised driving down the road your We're Axel blows out. I highly recommend changing gears. Especially bigger tires..
Seen one of your short vids, and it reminded me of when I got my daughter her first car; it needed brake pads so I taught her how to change them herself, ( she found it also needed new rotors ).
She was so mad at me for telling her that she needed to do this before she could drive it.
Fast forward 15 years, and she called me to say that she had a flat tire on her jeep on a back road, with her two young son's; and the few vehicles that came down that road; just passed her by.
She then told me that if I had not made learn how to change her own brake pads; she would have never known how to safely change the tire herself, ( her husband was deployed at the time to Afgan during OEF ), and she thanked me for putting her through the experience or she would have been stuck.
Peace
I stayed with 275/70/17 Toyo open country’s simply because I drive a lot and gas mileage is important. No rubbing at all the truck rides very smooth. I have a 2 inch lift and I just put on Dirt King upper control arms. I think 285’s would be cool but these trucks lack power and are very thirsty. So good luck to all of you out there.
Could you run the 275s without upgrading the ucas?
I think it is possible. To run 275’s without new UCA’s. It is recommended to change the UCA’s when you lift the truck so no lift no need to change.
Do you rub at all during full locks or hitting bumps? 2in front is the back raised up at all? Also did you have to do any CMC/BMC? I'm deciding to go with 275 or 285 to avoid any major cutting. Thanks!
@@dalvenp no no rubbing, no cutting. I don’t have a lift for the rear. I have a 2 inch suspension lift in the front. I went with 275’s cause I drive a lot. Remember Toyo tires aren’t as wide as Wildpeaks or KO2’s. So if you go with those tires it might rub. I like the Toyos over the Wildpeaks because the toyos are 41lbs and WP were 51. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Excellent video, Chloe! I wish somebody had done a video like this when I lifted my 2016. This is the best 285 clearance video I've ever seen by far.
Ran 285/75’s for awhile. Decided to party and run 35’s now.
SPC adjustable upper control arms make a huge difference 🍻
I run BFG 285/70/17 with 3.5” coil over lift, uca, and full leaf spring replacement from RC. With -12 offset the tires rubbed so I switched to 0 offset Method wheels and no issues at all. Would definitely suggest never going with block leveling kits due to the horrible ride.
Another great video. I wanted to just say that with 285 K02’s C load, I’m getting 17.5mpg which is close to stock for me. I daily my truck also. I don’t plan on doing any crazy off-roading until I have some armor. I think the C load would be great for your needs.
Great video Chloe! Can't wait to see more about the Land Cruiser.
Thanks Jason! Looking forward to your sand dune video!
Yes More about what you learned while driving with the 285s would be great!! Also You really won't ever do and talk about tire and suspension information to much. Thanks for the video
Great video Kloe! Thanks for sharing your experience 👍🏼
Another thing about bigger tires is that i cant find anyone to recalibrate the PCS system. I had to disable it after i got a new windshield because nobody could recalibrate the PCS with the added height. Wish Toyota would address this instead of advising customers to disable the system
I've spent more time doing research on suspension lift and tires than any other mod that I've done for my 2022 OR. Because I don't do major off roading and just like to do trails, I went and got the TRD suspension kit done since my truck was still under warranty. So it was a 2 inch in the front and 1 inch in the back. I went with Goodyear Wrangler Ultraterrain 265 75R 16's for the tires. Bought TRD 16 inch wheels with a 0 offset. The whole setup works great for me but the research I did was exhausting. I still have that itch to go up to 285's, but then I see videos like this and other people wishing they had just stuck with the tire size I have.
You could have used that size tire both on and off road with no lift and OEM wheels.
I’m considering the TRD lift as well. How do you like it? Any drawbacks?
@@Ts-zy4bw none so far!
@@dekcarc I could have, but I didn’t. I can go for a larger tire size in the future. It’s called future growth.
They clear when it sits still, take it out and you will find it will rub when flexed.
Atleast mine does, but i dont have those fox shocks tho.
Exactly. You can simulate it by going full lock and up a driveway faster than normal
285s are great on a Taco. My setup. Method 704 matte black, 17" 285 KO2s, leveled a TRD offroad (Pro Comp Nitro 3" Leveling Lift Kit), no cutting, no rubbing. Plan on replacing the Nitro 3" kit with back leaf springs + Fox 2.5 Elite on all 4 corners + upper control arms. Will keep it almost the same height as my current 3" Nitro level (+ or - a 1/2"). To be completely honest, 275s with this same setup would probably work better for my use case. O yea, great video Chloe.
Off road?
Plasti-dip emblems and black door handle overlays would make a cool vid. Both removable if it's not ur cup of tea
Another awesome informative video Chloe I enjoy watching your channel Im always learning new about trucks 🛻 keep up the great work 😎💪🏾
While you can go larger if you want to throw a ton of money at your truck, 35" tires are the most you can reasonably put on the third gen Tacoma.
A stock TRD Off Road can handle 255/85r16 (33.1"x10") tires on the stock wheels with MINOR rubbing when flexing in a turn
With mild suspension lift (up to 3 inches) ye can mount 285/70r17 (32.7"x11.2") tires (by this point, brake upgrade is a good idea, but not essential. Always start with front brake upgrade I know the rear brake is a drum on many Tacomas, but the front is the majority of your stopping power all things equal)
With 3" suspension, cab mount relocation, and some wheel well modifications you can fit 35" tires. ($1700 for ARB suspension, $750 for C4fab wheel well and cab mount modifications (can be done cheaper if you want to do some mods yourself), $200-350 per wheel plus $420 per tire) (by this point brake upgrades are strongly recommended)
My set up
2.5 lift w/ AAL rear
SPC upper control arms
17x 8.5 0 offset
285 K02
Zero rub w/ mud flaps
You should change your gears when going to 285’s and certainly upgrade your brakes. Upgrading the brakes is the most important modification as you will have a noticeable increase in braking distance with 285’s as Toyota designed the braking system optimized for a smaller tire. But you know that as an engineer.
What brakes would you recommend?
You don’t need brakes. Driving safer will make a bigger difference. Increase following distance
@@deviance8973 I’m not a Toyota guy so I can’t make a specific recommendation. Brembo, Alcon, StopTech and others of that caliber are all a good choice. I’m a desert racer and have had good luck with Wilwood - good technical support - I have had sponsorship from them so factor that in my answer. Wilwood is very affordable.
@@alexs825 You will stop in the same distance, but you will need to apply more pressure to the pedal.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q all I know is I hardly brake at all. Increasing following distance I can see 4 cars in front so I coast or speed up when traffic is slowing or speeding up. After 20k miles I had almost no ware on my brake pads. Still over 80% life
Thank you for all of your amazing videos, I just lifted my taco, they look so much better with bigger tires!!! What do you think of the 2024 Tacoma???
It’s about time
nice tires hon. i watch all your videos.
Actually, most of the time you can install 285/70/17 tires on a stock or slightly lifted Tacoma/4Runner/FJ as long as you keep the stock wheels. Many people say it will rub the UCAs but it’s actually not true. About the lift, you don’t really need the lift until you replace the wheels. BTW, I have a lift, UCAs, 0 offset wheels, removed mud flaps and trimmed a little inner fenders… but the first argument is true on most Tacos
I've got a 2011 Taco an I've put 285/70/17 s on it with a 3 inch rough country lift on it
I went with a level lift and 275 KO2s. They fit with no other mods except for the lift. Lost about 20-30miles per fill with these upgrades.
Does BFG have a 275 that comes in Load C? I think that size would be perfect for me if so!
@@ChloeKuo looks like they do on tire rack. Mine are load E. I’m not sure where my shop sourced my 275s but both load ratings are on tire rack.
I got an Eibach 2.5 with SPC UCA's with 285's Yokohama Geolander MT. I'm also running KSP 1.5 wheel Spacers with the stock off road wheels. With the OTT tune help the 285's move.
It's must to upgrade the UCA's to fit 285's!
What mpg you getting?
@@BlueSTI 16-17 mpg
Great information. Looking to do something with no lift.
If you’re planning on doing serious off-roading where you’re using the full range of your suspension, you WILL need to do some extensive cutting on 285’s, even on 0-offset methods. Fender liner delete, CMC, and pinch weld flattening minimum. Once the suspension is fully compressed you lose all the benefit of the lift and will rub, guaranteed. See @overlandoutfitters video on the subject of IFS suspension compression and oversized tires.
In Chloe’s defense she did mention that she didn’t do any off-roading in her testing, and that is a KEY callout in the video.
Question.. if bigger tire diameter throws off speedometer, wouldn't that throw off your mpg rating also? So you'd be getting more mpg than what's being calculated (although im sure its still lower than stock diameter)?
Very good question that I haven’t seen anyone ask
Thanks, Valuable info
Question: 285/75 r16 does it's still rubbed with 3.5 inch lift
Thanks for sharing this! what is the largest sized tire you can put on a stock suspension? I've currently got the 245/75r16's. I don't plan on putting a lift kit on it just yet, but when I do I'm looking at a 1" maybe a 1.5" lift.
For sure you can go 265/75/16 with no lift. You may even try 285/75/16 but you must be sure you have enough clearance for the UCAs. There are many different wheel sizes and it’s actually the wheel offset and width the limiting factor, way more than the suspension lift. I would put a lift if you want a “mild off-roader” unless you actually want to install a top quality suspension lift (Icon, Fox, etc). For most people the best way is to keep it stock and install larger tires
@@eduardosanchez7827 thanks man that was helpful. Mild of-roader is what I want to keep it as, for the time being at least.
Since you did a tune with the 265's and added a larger set of shoes your tune will be off a bit. Did you consider this as you mentioned a "bit of a lag"? I believe if you keep the 285's' on the Taco it should be recalibrated for the larger tires. BAT....bis ass tires!
How come you don’t do 265/75?
I heart Chloe Kuo!
Whats the biggest tires I can put on a Tacoma with a lift kit and negative offset (preferably like 2-3 inches away from the fender flares)?
Is it worth it using 285?
Or ill stick it out with the 265
It all depends on what you want to prioritize. Personally since this is my daily driver, I'm sticking with 265
I have 37s on my tacoma
When you go bigger in tires you need to change your rear and front gears. 35s I believe I have 4:56:1 gears used you get the power back and gas mileage also.
Shit's expensive though
what is the MPG on taco onto this 33 inchers? what is the original tire sizes?
Great upgrade!
Aloha
Good stuff.
What lift do you have on your Tacoma with your 265 70 tires?
Lift doesn’t clear tires.
Those would fit on stock suspension. Get out the saw. Will compress the same amount no matter the suspension setup
use smaller tires. so it can move around in the wheel well. (articulate) ??? i off road quite often
Maybe slightly bigger. But it's gonna be hard on those gears. Don't be surprised driving down the road your We're Axel blows out. I highly recommend changing gears. Especially bigger tires..
Yeah that can strain everything
Awesome videos
Just do a body mount chop.. unless you plan on driving in a straight line FOREVER.. turns, trails, bumps etc IT’S GOING TO RUB
16” wouldn’t rub in same tire size
Nice..I have 33x12.50x17...we or you should have a Toyota meet in the future it would be great to see your taco and other rigs and there mods..
when the new washington tacoma 2025 comes, are you going to ditch your old taco?
Nice
This just isn't super helpful without knowing if your tires will just get torn to shreds as soon as you take them off road...
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You gonna buy a new Tacoma?
265 looks better
the tires looks as big as you sitting next to it.
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Hi….. I want to lift 2020trd sport up 2”.
Which lift kit do you think I should use?
Tired of TIRES? Never.