I will sign the petition. My life has been consumed and left to dry , at 64, who would want the damaged abused me?! I've decided I'll stay alone to not gamble the risk of control or lies ever again.
@@melisentiapheiffer3034 That's for sure! I agree. I have a friend going through it now. The court should limit the # of times a diagnosed narcissist can drag a person into family court.
I'm unsure that narcissists treat strangers better. I believe they're Using strangers to feed their deep-seated narcissistic needs and means to their ends. Narcissists don't care for others. They are entitled to be worshiped. I'm guessing here, but they have such a hollow center, they Need to be adored. They will crumble if they don't have an audience, made up of family members, their children, and others. They can also turn violent. They will egg others to be violent. They will not be in front of the others, though. The crowd validates the narcissist's sense of power & presence.
Oh wow, you are so right. 💯 I'm going through this right now. And I've been physically turned off by my Narc and look at him in disgust when he tries to speak to me about sex, and when he tries touching I stop him. I'm fascinated by this comment because it's so true.
@@lauracollins28 That sounds like the mindset of a call girl and if that is a relationship to someone and they are ok with it than so be it for them but they are missing out on what a relationship is meant to be in an intimate sense .
No relationship never has problems but the purpose of both should be to love and support the either emotionally at its core and if in my opinion it is not the relationship will always fail even if the "transactions" continue because relationships can never be a business in the sense of transactions .
@@RoccoFreemantell me you don't understand anything that was said in the video without telling me... Most ppl have no clue they are in a relationship with a narcissist because of the tactics and manipulation. Especially since narcissists are attracted to very empathetic people most of whom will try to work on themselves and love the narcissism out of the narcissist ( which can't be done)
"If you've come through a narcissistic relationship, you possess a strength beyond the ordinary. Now harness that strength to pursue your dreams and make them a reality."
If the abusers were both your parents you might have to find yourself some self-esteem first. An extremely difficult task. I'm now whole at 62. Four hospitalizations, four breakdowns and a mother still alive at 87 for whom I feel nothing .
@@taylorhannah5980 make sure you get some counseling from a therapist who understands narcissistic abuse. Then you really will be able to draw on your experience and what you learned to never get in a relationship with a toxic person ever again. You will also be able to believe other hurting people who have no idea what’s happening . You will still hurt a little and think back too much . Just seeing that person as an enemy to your well being is the biggest victory. But please get help from a counselor first. ❤. Rid yourself of their voice in your head. Learn to love and affirm and comfort yourself. That is what makes you strong . ❤
I did! One mother whom I fled at age 18, when I was till a Minor. She drove my father to suicide when I was 3. My 2 siblings stayed in her control and they ALL, died, suddenly, 30 years ago. 2 husbands whom I stayed loyal to for years before fleeing the first, and, years later, throwing out the second, over13 years ago. Now, a son, my only child, with whom I want no contact ever again. ALL 4 put my life and well-being in danger! I am so glad I found this wonnderful Doctor to explain the Dynamics I witnessed and experienced and " why" I will recognize such Narcissism again in a friend. Actually, I am nearly 80 and very happy on my own. I have loads of interests and am very active in life. God bless you, Doctor Ramani! You are saving lives _ and sanity!
The fact that she does not charge anything for her lectures is just beyond me. I'm forever grateful because Dr Ramny gave me the strength and courage to leave my narc of 5 years. She saved my life. The information you could gain from this woman is worth more than gold when you're devastated or discarded by a narcissist.
Words can’t express how amazing she is, and she taught me what was going on in my life it was and still is jaw-dropping. And she literally saved my sanity because I was in extreme pain. And I could say so much more but we all know what I’m saying.
I had a therapist teach a class on setting boundaries. The next day she yelled at me for setting boundaries and called me anti-social and a racist. The guy I set a boundary with told me "Man, it's the morning time. I got the right to f*ck with people." I was also called a racist for quoting MLK. Apparently, according to "science", it is now racist to judge someone based on the content of their character, not the color of their skin. I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone. MLK a white supremacist?! WTF?
The biggest tragedy in narcissistic relationship is that many people stuck in this relationship take so many years to figure it out and what is happening to them .These are big losses
It took me 9 years. Then I tried to show my mom, and my sister what was happening to them too. Of course the cycle runs in families. Of course I was with a narcissist, because my dad is, and of course my sister is with a narcissist, because our dad is! But you really can’t tell anyone anything. They have to learn on their own. Even though the information I’ve given them, I WISH someone had given me! It would’ve explained so much and saved me so many years of my life!
We suffer in silence, literally, behind closed doors yet have to sit back and watch your own family gush over him! It’s sickening and a very isolating soul destroying existence 😢
Exactly. I’ve been married 38 years and it’s been a few I’ve learned it’s not my fault. He had me so brainwashed everything bad was my fault . Really he played mind games, head games. He woukd say horrible lies and in such a nice sweet way. I was the fool.
Dr Ramani, I have 4 children that I love with all my heart. They have. Been the best thing that ever happened to me. How can I have the best thing that ever happened to me yet I don’t love the daddy
My narc would not even breadcrumb. I remember having the flu. I had a temperature of 103. I was so sick I couldn’t walk without passing out. I’d thrown up so much I was completely dehydrated. I lay there thirsty for hours before bothering my nearby husband for a glass of water. He retorted, “ Get it yourself. I’m not your servant.” I had to crawl to the kitchen and nearly passed out while standing at the sink. I was shocked. This was someone I had waited on hand and foot every day, serving him his food on a tray, getting up to get him seconds, making and serving him two cups of tea each night. And he would not even get me a glass of water.
@@erolei1650 OR that it is your own fault that you got sick because of one of your many failures, which they will o not be too happy to explain to you. 🤣 You can’t catch a break with narcs!
Literally today, he told me I am faking having covid, because I said I was going to sleep in another room , to protect HIM. I was so discusted with his comment. I took a test infront of him and shoved it in his face ...yes covid filled. He has not even asked if I am ok.
Narcissists move VERY fast in relationships. It's not uncommon to hear, “I love you", and/or be bombarded with love songs/texts/memes a few weeks after meeting them. By rushing into sex/intimacy, they fast-forward the relationship. They get their targets to fall for them before he/she can realize something is amiss. I believe this is also the reason they tend to be VERY good lovers. Sex is usually the “hook” in toxic relationships. Narcissists lack genuine personalities. So, they mirror their targets. If you find you have “so much in common" with a new person, your likes are their likes, and your dislikes are coincidentally their dislikes as well, raise your antennas! They may be mirroring you. This is the “soulmates" hook… You'll also notice that they'll spend more time telling you who they are, verses showing you. As time goes on, you'll notice the words they used to describe themselves do not fit their personality - at all. But, they will fit YOURS!!! Passive-aggressive behavior and irrational/unexplained anger, are also major red flags. Pay attention to how a person treats you the first time you say, “No”, and/or when things don't go their way… If they give you the silent treatment, grow cold, and/or pull away, do not overlook it! Most importantly, if someone pulls away, or goes silent, after you set a boundary - DO NOT pursue them! This is how they groom you to be the chaser in the relationship. It's emotional abuse/manipulation! Pay close attention to people who portray themselves as victims. NOTHING is EVER their fault! EVERYONE, including the family pet, has done them wrong… ALL of their ex's are “crazy” and mistreated them… They’re great, but no one appreciates said greatness… Simply put, it's bullshit! No one should have a laundry list of bad experiences. If they do, RUN, because they're the common denominator! Narcissists tend to have a history of failed/short-term relationships. Believe it or not, it's hard for Narcissists to find people to deal with them long term due to their instability and poor behavior… Superficial relationships/friendships. I've noticed they don't have anyone they're genuinely close to. This is due to their inability to bond and form true attachments to people. Their relationships are shallow and based on surface-level bs. They'll refer to someone as their bestfriend, but you’ll notice they barely speak. Or, that the person is never really around. Or, only shows up when it's time to party, etc. They may also speak down on/poorly of said “bestfriend” behind their back. Narcissists tend to be condescending, two-faced and downright mean! Based on my experience, they cannot talk about deep subjects (i.e. fears/emotions). Or, how a situation truly made them feel. Or, what their childhood was like in detail… They don't want to go there. I suspect, it's because they can't. They don't know themselves well enough. They can't connect. They also live in a world of dishonesty. They're very dishonest with themselves about who they truly are. A poor relationship with their Mother/primary caregiver. Underlying issues between Narcissists and their Mother's (abuse, neglect, don’t get along, etc.), seems to be common. People that I've known who've displayed strong Narcissistic tendencies, ALL had bad relationships with their Mothers! I think it's worth mentioning, their Mother's also displayed strong Narcissistic traits… I'm fully aware and understand that there are healthy adults who have toxic Mother's. However, if you're spotting several red flags in an individual, including this one, pay closer attention! They're selfish! Some are selfish from the very beginning. Some start out generous and slowly begin withholding. Some act helpless and needy. They manipulate people into doing things for them, but never give back. It's not only financial and material selfishness. They're selfish emotionally, affectionately, conversationally. sexually and with their attention. They withhold validation and support. EVERYTHING has to be about them, their needs, their wants and everything happens on their terms. Anger, rage, silent treatments and disappearing acts are common - when they don't get their way. Pathological lying. Narcissists are professional liars. It's their second nature. If you call them out, they'll have no issue staring deeply into your eyes as they tell another lie! You'll hardly ever get the truth. Even with unchallengeable proof of the truth, they'll hold on to the lie. It's actually quite fascinating to see them in action - once you know what you’re dealing with. They also have the uncanny ability to provoke doubt in their victims (even when you KNOW the truth), because their lies are so convincing! Beware of people who do not seek conflict resolution. Many Narcissists enjoy drama/chaos! Remember, these are high-conflict personalities. Many of them NEED to argue and fight! Peace to a narcissist, is what chaos is to non-disordered people - unsettling. This is why they repeat behaviors that trigger a negative response. They need tension, anger and high/out of control emotions. They're known for calling people crazy, drama queens, insecure, etc., but never admit what they did to provoke those responses. And, when you attempt to discuss/resolve something, THEY said/did, they’ll gaslight, stonewall and/or flip it back on to you. They're extremely disrespectful, rude and lack self-awareness. They have an issue with being called out on their behavior and project/deflect to avoid accountability. “Normal” people want to get along, for the most part. So, they seek fair compromises when conflict arises. Narcissists want to “win” and conflict IS their niche. This is how many Narcissists get their way - they wear people down via conflict. Immaturity. It’s one thing to be playful and lighthearted (in appropriate settings), as an adult. It’s something completely different to be immature. Narcissists suffer from arrested development. They do not know how to respond to situations/people/stress/life appropriately. They have a child-like mindset. They truly believe everything is about them and have no concept of the needs of others. By nature, children are takers. They have no concept of reciprocation. They believe their Parents (and everyone else), exists to meet their needs. When their needs aren’t met, or they don’t get what they want, they become mean and throw tantrums. Narcissists cannot think outside of themselves and their wants/needs - like children. They’re completely unaware that people are individuals with their own agency, needs, wants, opinions... They truly believe people exist to serve them. They believe their job is to receive. They’re children trapped in adult bodies, who cannot consider anything/anyone other than themselves! Above everything I've stated, trust your intuition! Narcissists give off an uneasy vibe. They try very hard to appear cool, calm and collected - on the surface. But, you can feel their energy. It's very off-putting. They also tend to have more noticeable negative qualities, than most people. But, you have to stop justifying and making excuses, in order to see things clearly. Accept people for who they are and not who you want them to be. Observe, listen and trust yourself. No one should be allowed to grant themselves a position in your life. Vet people and YOU decide if they'll be a liability, or an asset, to you. Lastly, take cues from your body. If you ever feel your mood changing, feel anxious or feel your stomach knot up, in the company of someone, don't dismiss it! It could be a sign that you're in bad company!!! Additionally, If you suspect cheating or other forms of manipulation and need to gather evidence for your own peace of mind, you may consider reaching out for assistance. For more information, you can contact: Barryinvestigation@gmail. com
I was 21 when I met him. I was fresh, naive....protected by my loving parents. I didn't have a clue. I tried to leave once when I was 30. My family was manipulated by him and strongly encouraged me to "save my marriage." We lived far apart. They didn't see it. I finally divorced and moved away at 53. I'm healing but he almost destroyed me.....
@user-wd5qw2sr4d: When I read your post above, it was EXACTLY as if I had written it myself, only I was 20 when I met my narcissist. My "marriage" lasted 4½ long, miserable years. I was so naive and had never encountered anyone as callous and hurtful as he was. After we divorced, I moved to 2 different cities, but he found me twice and showed up at my door wanting to get back together. No way would I even consider it !!! Although I came close a few times, I could never remarry and therefore never had any children. I'm now retired and live happily alone with my rescued dogs. I often wonder what my life would have been like if I had never met "the creature." I had so much love to give.
You hit it on the head about, "I might as well do everything alone". But, I finally realized that if I'm gonna do everything alone, I might as well be alone. I divorced him after 15 years.
I also came to this conclusion two years ago. Take care dear. You can also watch NARCdaily who explains well what happens in the narcissistic relationship.
@@Evewasfraimed women are too socialized to "get that man - have a child" - "you're nothing without a man" (I remember a girlfriend of mine reading a book entitled: Why Am I Nothing Without a Man"!!!!! I've met so many young single women who prefer staying single and childless.. new generation.. men are less spiritually advanced than most women.. not all men.. I'm not a man hater.. but you get my drift..I get the "aloneness" being with a narcissist...put your attention on loving yourself & enjoy your freedom..when I was younger I met so many unhappily married women..some of my girlfriends would come over and spend the night at my place after fights with their partners.. I really was hesitant to get involved with men.. especially during the male chauvinist times I grew up in!! I ended up on disability..traumatized..I knew I needed to meditate because of intuitive experiences I've had most of my life.. that led to studying psychic development, then mediumship - my self-confidence increased - then found out I had healing abilities.. so get started on your own life..Good Luck & Prosperity to you!
After fifty years, I don’t miss him at all. Fifty years of slavery. I just didn’t know how to describe it. From his retirement, he became a full fledged alcoholic, became morbidly obese and helpless. For two weeks I put off going to hospital, not aware I’d broken my hip because he couldn’t do anything for himself. Since last year, when he died, I’m learning so much about myself and I’m very happy now
OMG. I'm so glad that you're happy now. And sorry that you suffered so much. I watched my mom go through that, with my violent alcoholic father, and at 18, I told her she must leave him, and she finally did. She was 38. And foolishly, she married again. And had two more children (to add to the four she already had). Need less to say, we were all traumatized for the rest of our lives. I'm 82 and still suffer. I keep going. But my body is giving up. I try for a way forward. I still look for the "golden years." What a bad joke. Women of our generation were sold a bill of goods. DANGEROUSLY BRAINWASHED.
Pathetic how they treat you like shit talk to you like shit make a.big deal out of the .out millions or things like for like Lea ING alive water in a water bottle then chewing you out for 3 or 4 days about wasting water im so tired and fed up with this attitude.but know it's starting to be in public or when friends or family are over you feel me 18 years of being treated like crap and then wonders why I don't feel like romantic I just can't.
@@marjoriegarner5369 Growing up in a small town, I witnessed such behaviour amongst several of our neighbours. Wich made me think "how do I know wich of my peers will turn out abusive" ? I decided against both marriage and kids. I was 14. I told people " Its not my job to populate the world" ! I'm 62 now. No regrets.
Narcissistic people need a "partner," but the need is in the same way that a parasite needs a host. They are like a different species, with different motivations for being in relationship, and different needs, than what a non-narcissistic person has. If you are not narcissistic, and you understand what a narcissistic person is, you understand the relationship can only harm you.
Some of these replies are strange women think sex is the only intimacy men know but unfortunately most men get 0 contact with the outside world that's the only affection they get is whatever crazy flavor of the month their with ....that's not narcissistic just being a man is narcissistic it seems quit using that word for anything a certain group uses as a weapon .
@@areuarealman7269 Not sure I follow your thinking. "Just being a man" does not have to mean being narcissistic, but if you are saying our society rewards men for narcissistic behavior, I agree with you. (Plenty of women are narcissistic too, they just use more covert tactics to get supply.)
I'm dealing with the mental illness caused by being in narcisistic relationships for 74 years, (mother and husband) and doubt I will ever recover. At least I am now free and finding peace and validation through your invaluable videos. I can honestly say you saved my life Dr. Ramani ... God bless you.XOXOXOXO.
I do understand the mental illness related narcissistic abuse. I am there with you. It does help to hear the Dr talk, to understand how the narcissistic think. Hold in there, your the winner!!! 😊
I’m with you! Mine lasted over 30 years. The psychological damage is incredibly unimaginable. And the physical destruction of the nervous system, digestive system ( and more) takes such a toll. Even if I can never be the prior me, I still try to learn and find every avenue. For me Dr Ramani is like a warm blanket that helps nurse me back to reality and peace. And yes, we win, because we are free! But the winners are also those who know but stick it out to protect their children. I did, and my kids are now all winners too!
I don’t know your circumstances, but I’m so glad you’re free!!! My mom has been with my narcissistic father for 48 years and I so wish she would leave him. But I know she’s been so beaten down over the decades (everything but physically) that she probably will never have the self-assurance needed to do so. Even though much of your life is behind you, I hope you’re able to discover and pursue the things that make you happy. You deserve every last drop of freedom, peace, and goodness that you can squeeze out of each day 💜💜💜
At 48 I’m just learning of this pattern that my narc mother instilled in me: “if I’m good, I’ll get the help I need.” I’ve wasted my life keeping up my end of the bargain-being “good” for future-fakers and users. I was so brainwashed into thinking it’s “bad” to put myself first, but I’m slowly unlearning the fruitless, codependent behaviors that were bullied into me as a sad, lonely, scared little girl.
Hugs 🤗🤗🤗 had the same mother. I was groomed to put everyone’s needs above my own even if they hurt me. Needless to say I’ve fell prey to some pretty twisted people. Education will deliver us from evil. It’s our time now.
So well put! I I just went to the emergency room, my mother drove me. She was antagonizing me and trying to make me going to the ER about her. I screamed and told her it wasn't all about her & what's wrong with you. When I had a grand mal seizure & bit off part of my tongue in front of her, she finally got it. However, now I'm over it. No longer going to people please assholes. She's so emotionally immature and inept, I can no longer take it personally. I think that's the breakthrough...there is literally nothing I can do to change what she's incapable of giving.
Thanks for your post, it just rang a bell and I finally understand, why a family member was attracted to people, who need "help". Helping other people is the only way to feel selfworth, if you were taught not to take yourself seriously, even then, when you're being mistreated and taken advantage of. If you're mistreated or taken advantage of, you blame yourself to have taken yourself too seriously, therefore things turned out bad/the person reacted negatively/... and in consequence you put all your energy in trying to meet the other person's needs the next time, the next time, the next time,...
@@KathieRopele74 tells me to turn down a high paying job and find one in his state but when I send opportunities he finds fault with the job, won’t even call or communicate knowing I am on vacation and wanting to plan on seeing him over the summer. But, oh yeah the future just doesn’t ever get planned it’s always a problem with his work schedule every single vacation I have
"You actually get used to living in an emotional famine." This pretty well sums up life with a narcissist. Thank you Dr. Ramani. You opened my eyes and helped me move on.
I think they work off an Emotional Scarcity Economy. If you care about others, if you admire others for any reason including accomplishments, if you’re feeling for example empathy for another etc. these freaks view that as less left for them. In their view there’s a finite amount of intangibles such as love, care, compassion etc. And they gotta have it ALL-which means you get none. Even as a child we’re treated the same way and are at the mercy of their whims, living in terror of their predictable unpredictability. It’s truly living with a Human IED.
@@tundrawomansays694 When I started realizing I was married to a narcisist (he's the ex now) before I truly knew what I was dealing with(just starting to realize it) I said to the ex, I feel like I was put into a war that I didn't even know I was in & the rules keep changing. A few months later when I stumbled on the word gaslighting & looked it up, it led me to NPD & that's when pieces of the puzzle started falling into place because it described to a T what I had been dealing with & I saw the comment I had made to the ex(the 1 above about being in a war as well as other comments like that) it was both enlightening & weird.
In the end when you said that narcissists are the greatest illusionists and magicians and Masters of disguise and deception. I thought about how the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist
OMG the lack of intimacy is what tore me apart. I was married for 35 years & I always thought it'd get better. I thought it was me.I dealt with severe depression always feeling I wasn't doing something right. *Thank you for all you do*
I’m so sorry I’ve been married 34 years He promised to be faithful and married to me but NEVER WAS he cheated on me the entire 34 years so far There has never been any intimacy Zero Once I found out he was cheating in 2006 I left and we’ve never been intimate since cuz he’d rather be with prostitutes I stayed for the kids 😢 he would have turned them against me There’s no intimacy He doesn’t care He hasn’t communicated with me for 11 days … so evil and cruel
My heart goes out to you. I have been feeling exactly the same way as you did and my narc is in the process of discarding me. You keep telling yourself it will get better because there is nothing that makes any sense that is wrong with the relationship. Then you discover NPD. What an eye opener and heartbreaker simultaneously. Good luck to you in the future.
I have been married to mine for 17 years and I feel this to the core because it has happened to me as well. I finally called it quits I just couldn't with the loneliness anymore or the illnesses
Yes. I have been on the receiving end of this with family and friends more times than I can count. My commitment to myself and my life is to never accept this behavior from someone again. I will not accept it. I lost friends and most of my family by making this commitment, and it has been worth it.
My mother called the police on me .....like she was a good citizen! brought nothing but misery. Any favours they do it gets twisted back to hit you in the face then you owe them so much you are discredited and devalued at every turn. Smear campaigns and so on.....its got to be one of the worst human conditions by far
I remember two weeks before I ended my Toxic Relationship I woke up and I looked over and my ex was staring at me, he was looking at me with this look that felt like "what does it take to break you" I will never forget that look. Then I remember looking at him while he was sitting at the kitchen table and he looked at me with this most disgusting look. The one thing that I still can't figure out is every look has a different look but they weren't exactly the same. This was weird too me.😮
My husband was looking at me with the look of disgust last night when I was setting a boundary. A simple boundary… not telling me by when he leaves the house is not acceptable
Either my soon-to-be ex husband would never look at me when criticizing me, saying hello upon his return home from work, and giving his edicts or he'd look at me with derision.
@@PatriciaFrank-k7j I understand what you’re saying. I’m experiencing some similar things. I have found that watching videos and doing research on what love looks like and how to tell if he truly loves you or not type stuff, that information puts some perspective into my situation and helps me understand what my intuition tells me. In a toxic relationship, cognitive dissonance is very real and debilitating. But I know how love looks feels and behaves. I just get lost and confused and forget. When I see my husband looking at me with distain and disgust, I know that is not what love is. When he says things that leave me feeling unloved and yucky inside, I know that isn’t love. When I look at myself and realize that I don’t like who I am in this relationship, this isn’t the person I used to be, this isn’t who I am, I know that this isn’t a love thing it’s a toxic thing and I am dieing in it. I don’t want to be bitter, paranoid, judgmental, and hateful. It’s just not who I am. It’s who I am in a loveless situation
You have hit the mail on the head. I lost the sex drive long ago because he’d be harsh, unfeeling or use the silent treatment, but then, like you said, bread crumb and start to be warm, and I could tell he wanted sex. If I said I didn’t want to, he’d always pulled the “you’re not a good wife if you deny sex. You’re not a good Christian if you don’t submit to me.” I’d give in to his tantrum but honestly felt like I was being raped by a stranger. We’re separated now because after being married 50 years, I finally woke up and see his tactics. Much thanks to you, Dr. Ramini.
I have also been married 50 years on paper. After three months married, he started grooming me. He has had at least 9 other women in this marriage. I think about it, Princess Diana thought three was crowded, and than even though Charles is an evil narcissist he becomes king and her consort. Why is it that these evil people get away with it. His last girlfriend 11 years love bombing her, while I lost my Mom, got Shingles, and then cancer, dealing with cancer all alone during pandemic while he was suppose to be taking care of me he would spend all his time with her, the happy couple. I was not allowed to do stairs for first 2 weeks after surgery, he would leave me at 10 in the morning and come home late in the day leaving with no food or drink until he got home.
What a horrible way to go through life, isn't it? Being antagonistic, paranoid, angry, rageful, vengeful, entitled, controlling and contemptuous towards the people closest to you. I just don't get it. It drives people away, your adult children describe you as an a***hole and want very little to do with you. An empty life.
As a parent who went no contact with our 40 year old child, I can say with certainty that they were miserable and hard to get along with since childhood. We tried everything and it has killed us in many ways. The cruelty, disrespect and abuse over the years got worse and worse. It’s not better. It will NEVER be better. But at least we took a stand and said no more to the direct abuse. The smear campaign has been like a horror movie, only because we know what they are capable of. We have lost hope.
I tell ya' the more I see these videos the more I appreciate being single. Whew !! 😬 I have peace in my home. I am not missing A THING. You with me readers ?!!
It’s so interesting the mention of a lack of intimacy being tied to being with a stranger. Shortly after I got married (following a super quick courtship), I found out how cruel my husband was. I recall starting to write a poem with the theme of “A stranger wears his face”. It took thirty years to finally leave, after raising a son together and serving as ministers throughout our entire marriage. After enduring his infidelity a second time, I realized I just couldn’t be intimate with someone I could no longer trust. It’s hard to know what parts of those thirty years were true and which parts were lies. He was not at all who I thought I was marrying!
I feel the same ... 23 miserable years with a stranger ... I only recently found out about Narcissists ... and he hates that the UA-cam playlist on the TV ... recommends a heaps of Narc videos 😂
Ditto😮 re really marrying a Stranger who quickly turned Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde *after I fell-n-love & married tooo fast to understand Alll the red flags ... & i survived near 10 years of horrible narcissist-marriage, & he plays the part of a (wolf) "minister"... oh yay🙄... & IS still abusing by proxy thru his on-going *12 year frivolous custody-battle,* & he Still gets away with his abuse-by-proxy thru our 3 presh children nc he pays big to corrupt Attorneys... & continues w/ worst Parental Alienation, & alll his abuse is "legally-Allowed" by Family Court in Tarrant Cnty...🙏🏻🙏🏽🙏🏼for our children to truly seee the Truth in Alll Matters re what he has done to us for 21 years... & To be Freed from his abuse & completely Healed, Restored unto me as their Mother & alll our lost time together, esp of past 5 years & continuing...
That discomfort with having sex with the narcissistic husband is translated as “she’s frigid” by him. It’s particularly cruel because he knows he’s the one causing it. I frequently hear people saying how much they miss the sex from their romantic narcissistic relationship. Can’t relate. Not being guilted and coerced into the worst sex I’ve ever experienced is the best part of freedom.
It's horrible when your body isn't your own; it is theirs to use. You have no agency, and it is indeed terrible. The pouting the whining the tantrums it's so not attractive. They don't understand.. I have never felt so demeaned as a person in all my life. He made something beautiful ugly and I hated it.
Agreed!! I am so grateful that part of my life is over. I have been gone for 8 months. My life is so much more peaceful and I am not changing that ever.
I refused to allow him back into my bed after I found out how many other women he was having affairs with while we were married. Then he proceeds to tell everyone that I have a sex problem and that is why we broke up. So, he moves in with a neighbor who was convinced that I was the worst woman on the planet for the way I treated my poor soon to be ex. That lasted less than two weeks before the Narc got thrown out of there. My neighbor commented that he didn't know how I put up with the Narc as long as I did.
First off I want to thank Dr Ramani for helping me wake up and realize what is going on and what has been going on for the last 49 years of my marriage! I cry when I watch videos regarding narcassists and what he’s done to me but I also cry for all these people who were treated just as badly as I have been!
I have been dealing with this for 40 years after the love bombing ended so did the what thought was real love. He says off of the wall stuff and looks at me and says” Well I guess I will have to go somewhere else to get me some”. He has gotten so rude and tells me often to get out of his house. We saw a semi truck on the highway the trailer read “ Heaven or Hell it’s you choice” I looked at him and said, there’s your sign, he looked at me with disgust in his eyes. If looks could kill I’d would be dead.
@@cyndim8785Are you trapped financially, or is there a possibility of escape? My heart goes out to you. What a nasty evil man, I hope that semi truck comes back around & squashes him like a bug.
I hope you get out of it I am 37 horrible years with lyme disease and longhauler covid and am working on getting out I gave him half of my house and he is living here freeloading and gets mad if I ask him for money@@cyndim8785 I am paying the mortgage and half the time in a wheechair hope god helps you in gaining strength to leave good luck to all us suffering souls with gods help
Yes, he equated sex to intimacy. When I tried to explain to him what intimacy really is, he looked at me as if I were from another planet. When I would try to talk to him about family, childhood etc, he immediately shut down. Leading up to sex he was very affectionate and knew all the moves to make. Afterwards, his demeanor would totally change and he would become cold and distant. You could literally see his face change, it was unsettling.
☀️☀️ I say stay away from people who harm your inner peace and self! They are like a slow poison, and the sooner you realize this, the sooner you can stop drinking it! 💯
People not impacted will never understand the depth of pain and damage a narcissistic relationship has and how it changes a person and the level of strength it takes for restoration to take place with alot of prayer and a close bond of people that provide understanding and support on the path of recovery. Trust me even family members don't understand so the circle might only be 1 or 2 friends. Every thing Doctor Ramani explains is what I experienced and more but I am free now , no contact and I immediately walk away from toxic people that add no value to my life. The road to recovery is hard but with prayer , understanding people around you and teachings like Dr Ramani that helps us understand we are not alone and we are not the problem, Yes we now realise our self worth and self respect to start living our lives as God intended with lots of peace, joy and love. I did it and so can you.
i think thats because i think they are subconsciously trying to mask it. weird way to think about that. indicator of some past trauma , unfairness, abuse in childhood before and during adolescence. so narcissistic parent can have a detrimental effect of the developing individual at that hormonal time.
The brainwashing is probably the worst part: the unsuspecting victim becomes imprinted with the narcs false, dark, relentless projections. So you walk around bearing a false identity. The intense grief work begins when one is ready to go NO CONTACT, and start the inner reparenting journey. One cannot stay safe nor sane in relationship with them. The body indeed keeps the score. Thank you, Dr. Ramani - your videos are a global treasure.❤
If only I had known about narcissism two years ago! But then, I wouldn't have become a much wiser and better person! Yes, the body keeps score! I would have recognized that he was the reason my BP went from being naturally on the low side to spiking up and down to dangerous levels in the same day! It was from walking on eggshells, being ordered around in my own home in which HE WAS THE GUEST because sneaky Brother was "homeless". Never ending cleaning up after him and his dog, which had to be in the bedroom with him while my dogs bedded in the closed in porch! Constant criticism. Rage fits. Language never heard in my home. Tantrums. Lies! Deliberate destruction of my tools and farm equipment. Black holes in my hardwood floor from live coals he let burn through the wood.... The list is unending. Then demanding I drive him over a thousand miles to take care of His business - stealing finances, credit card number and family heirlooms from the 16th century which can never be replaced. Still I am finding "stuff" he accomplished to destroy me for having permitted him to live in my home for free. He left me with the gift of PTSD, paralysis I have never experienced in 73 years, and ten years of catching up on repairs that should never have had to be done - now that my youth has left me! It leaves one totally depleted, physically, psychologically, emotionally.... I'm looking forward to the mansion in the heavens where the Father created each of us to be in His delighted and beautiful presence forever! I PRAY that Brother repents and becomes the person he was created to be. Possible? All things, even this hope, are possible with God!
I am in in awe of how clearly she explains this. Right down to the most minute detail. The destruction of self by being in a relationship with a narcissist is a whole different level of aloneness. Not only are you not in a convective relationship with them but your relationship is now of such an addictive situation that you have slowly eliminated everyone in your life and you've completely lost your sense of self. You are now completely dependent on the abuser for any connection and you're starved of any human interaction that the scraps they throw are now enough to confuse you into feeling full.
A narcissistic relationship is like an intimacy and closeness desert, peppered with blame, manipulation, coercion, and control...So true. This is precisely the description of my marriage.
I once heard that the definition of “INTIMACY” is “INTO ME SEE”. Intimacy is dangerous to a narc because they are not any where interested in YOU seeing the REAL them.
Yes. The dishonesty about love can be totally devastating. We could be going along seemingly fine and then out of the blue he would disappear for several days or be with another woman.
I am speechless to know after 20 years that I was not the cause but he was a hardcore narcissist who put me through emotional famine and physically almost impotent that you doubt your own gender and looks.Thank you Dr Ramani for addressing these issues.Left that narc long ago.It was extremely painful almost suicidal but the chapter is over.
I also feel that sometimes the narc turns healthy people also into narcs. And that not everyone comes out of narcissistic abuse unscathed. What I mean @unscathed is that yeah, we'll all suffer from the initial narcissistic abuse and it will take years to recover from, that is evident & there's evidence in this too. But, that some times even with all of that, that more times than not the abused also turn into narcissists themselves. 🤷
I feel like this happened to me. I was once a good girl that trusted too many carless people. My ex that I think is a narc, distroyed my heart, my trust completely in humanity, I think. He was the last straw on the camels back, thought he was my soulmate, but he literally treated me quite poorly at times. Just breaking this all down now that I've had a lot of time away from him, and how compassionate and forgiving and patient I was for him for him to not give those trates back.. He brought so much toxicity and I was trying so hard to battle it. It was like he brought the poison and I was bringing the medicine. It drained me so very much. I'm wanting to heal all the time letting go. Together for 4 years. He never wanted to protect. I'm so scared of sex because people are so scary. They will say anything to get it. Even year after year ..... I still cry about the pain. He tells me he just laughs and how he and his friends laugh at my insanity, I was never like this before....... Crazy how people process........ he was telling me all this time we'd have a family and a wedding.. ouchy. . This is hell I'm sure. He started diving into hard drugs, I think he just wanted a drugged out sex doll that played music, he says I'm too powerful. I remember looking into his eyes and he looked like he wanted to destroy me... I loved him,. Gave him my body and soul(like an idiot) I know I still have hope. Barley. These days life is a celebration and nothing really matters is my mentality. Sex is pretty much traumatizing for me because my ex lied so many times to get access to my body. telling me he would put a baby in me only while we bang never anniciating the family talk only while we bang for me to believe and let him in deeper. I need to go to therapy, 8 months and I still cry. Then when I slept with other people when we broke up and told him the truth when he asked he took his love away and looked at me like a whore.... Another reason sex is traumatizing. So crazy. 8 months later and i am still so deep in healing.... I don't think I will ever heal from this one. Humanity is such a let down. Maybe it's wise to become a narcissist that way you always protect yourself and never care because caring is so painful and people suck.
In other words, it's only a mindgame. The game is rigged and you will only lose in this game. Don't fall into this trap because that is all this is, a trap, and only leads to your downfall. It's Lucy promising Charlie Brown, he's really gonna kick that football. Maybe. "One day".
Thank you for this. She made me feel like there was something wrong with me for not wanting to be intimate after all of the gaslighting, lying, cheating, emotional abuse, public shaming, and the rest of the book. It made me feel damaged for some time because I wanted to be a good partner, but inside I was recoiling and trying to protect myself from the emotionally damaging and draining patterns. I wanted to love her, and sadly I did keep trying for way too long, but being intimate was so difficult from all of the trauma. I would forgive her, and she'd do it again a day later. She was a covert narcissist and had painted me to be this terrible person to everyone, and after enough other people pushed in on me I started to believe it too. So glad to be free. I hope one day to feel what real intimacy is like.
This is priceless, dear Dr. Ramani. My guy was future faking to the extent of promising me a meeting "some time soon when he can make time or even 10 years from now. !!!! Always disappearing and breadcrumbing just to keep me around, pulling me closer when i wanted out. The fact that i am writing this comment means I do not plan to be tricked anymore
I wish they had this level of education decades ago. We covered personality disorders in adult psych as well as abnormal psych, but we didn’t go deep. Thank you for covering all of this. It’s really scary because they do not sit still and they need constant attention, yet regardless of your presence…you are never seen or heard. There’s no connecting. 😢
I'm reading up on personality disorders, and one of the "problems" with the literature is that it's all focussed on how to treat the narcissist. Which is fine of course, but there seems to be very little empirical or hard science work on how to recognise the signs of and to treat victims. I'm sure it's out there, but most of the stuff addressing victims seems to be the more popular psych stuff. That's all fine, but I want to know what the hard data is on this shit. And also how can psychiatry inform victims that they're being abused if the victim isn't the primary patient. My narcissistic wife saw probably half a dozen mental healthcare professionals in the last few years of our marriage. Granted it wasn't for long, but due to confidentiality even if they had suspected her of being an abusive narcissist they couldn't have told me. How many victims are left to figure it out for themselves because the professionals are sworn to silence? We need a way to address this stuff.
When you have sex with a narcissist you feel used. You feel like an appliance. Their love is conditional, manipulative, score keeping. I'm not sure my narc was so much afraid of intimacy; I think he just didn't see value in it. He claimed he needed sex for medical reasons, and when I stopped sex because of abuse, neglect, feeling used, then he blamed all his medical issues on me. Sex with a narcissist means clean slate for their bad behavior. It's totally utilitarian, but they might put on a slight love act for it if they have to. When I stopped sex is when I saw the real monster come out. Then I could never go back; I could never trust the beast behind the mask ever again.
My narc husband continually called me a bitch and a cunt. I refused sex with him. I told him at least prostitutes get paid. I am divorced now, thankfully. I know he told everyone I was 'frigid'.🤣🤣🤣🤣
I didn't stop it, he made itbreal good again, then took it away ! I cried in a book store as I was rejected daily after love bombing me again at 20 yrs. Why ? I feel again for that crap . But I'm the bad onemlmao
The silent treatment disguard then back to lovebombing was a sad pattern of my childhood. Walking on eggshells all the time. I hate my parents. Remembering that & broke that mold with my own children who are now healthy happy adults with their own happy healthy children . My grandbabies know how to express their emotions & have solid real boundaries. I love them to the moon & back. Thank you Dr. Ramani for these reminders that I am not the crazy one. ❤
This is spot on. My covert narcissist wife of near 46 years has broken me. She was a love bomber in relationships before me and with me when I got involved with her. I had no clue what I was in for. She's still highly sex focused but it's always been a mechanical experience. She's never allowed herself to be vulnerable and share honest feelings or be truly compassionate. I've reached a point where I do not desire sex. The awkwardness of the sex with lack of emotion and using sex as a tool has destroyed my desire. The random irrational rages, gaslighting, projecting, bread crumbing, etc has taken it's toll.
I'm so sorry to hear this. Are you two still together? Life is too short and I wasted 6 years with my covert narc ex. There was no intimacy, towards the end it had been close to 6 months. It's like my body knew before my brain did.
@@farahleigh8332 Yes, we're still together. I value the relationship and maneuver around the toxicity. We have 3 well adjusted adult children who I'm very proud of so I stay "grey man" and remain non-reactive during rages and toxic moments. My wife has a charming, outgoing public mask so the dark side is for my eyes only. I have a close friend going through the same thing in his long term marriage. We support each other and UA-cam channels like this one help educate what is the cause of the hostility in our relationships. Thank you for your question. I'm sad my wife is in victim mode and unfulfilled most days but I help nudge her back to center. Life is good. I hope all is well with you
My elderly covert narc mom and I could have a great day out shopping or whatever but by the end of the day would come a shocking insult and cutdown out of nowhere. I would be in shock!!! My therapist said "You were getting too close".
That's really interesting. My "difficult" sister visited for a week last year. Whilst all seemed ok, there was an undercurrent of continuous and subtle fault finding. I bit my tongue as I also had 3 other family members visiting from overseas, but staying in a hotel.. On the last morning, I got up and made her breakfast. She sat at MY table, looked into my kitchen and said "I can't believe you did not wash up those dishes last night" - There were 2 plates and 2 glasses. "My husband would never allow that in my house". What the heck? I said, "Right, all you have done since you have been here is criticise. If you continue, I will ask you to leave my home". She shouted "You need to be more organised" I left the room fuming. She said it a few more times. She got up, picked up her suitcase and with her daughter walked out. My husband went too as he was taking her to the train station. I went outside to say goodbye and she was so cold, I gave my 10 year old niece a hug and said to her, when you are a guest in someones home, you don't criticise it. She apologised as she has joined in with her mothers criticisms too. She didn't ring me for a few weeks and then I rang her and apologisedf or one thing I had done, but said I am not apologising for anything else. That is the way that I choose to live my life. . She said "It was her sense of humour and we obviously don't have the same sense of humour" I believe that is a typical Narc reply. I have put up with so much sh*t off of her over the years - it was great to have seen her more clearly. The only reason I stay in touch is because I have two lovely nieces and I am their only Aunt as my sister and I are the only siblings.
@@softsophisticate The "humour" is really a veiled stab at you. Thankfully she lives away from you. Sounds like covert narc traits to me. They're sneaky and shady and they love throwing digs at others. The hardest part for us to understand is that they do not think like us.
Most narcissists are porn addicts, so intimacy goes out the window after love bombing. I lived it. Now divorced, all of the pieces of the puzzle have come together. Thank you Dr. Ramani.
Thank you for describing these creatures in this context " the pieces of the puzzle " We walk through life no matter the quirks of the narcissists no matter how hurtful disturbing or any adjective out there. We wrestle with the lack of pieces to a puzzle. Why because they are a dark kaleidoscope of perpetuating anomaly 's Never ending the why is how damn consistent and how they manage to change it up with more of the same. Absolutely void of moral compass
Exactly. My Ex husband was also a porn addict, but he said it was my fault because if we had more sex, he wouldn't need to watch porn . It's unbelievable what these narcizissts are saying to you. And they mean it, and if you have the discussion often enough, you think maybe he is right and I am the problem
This is the best reason to get to know a person before having sex with them. Not because of prudism, but self preservation, and respect for yourself and body. The way that person reacts to your decision will speak volumes of their true intentions and inner self, who they actually are.
Wow! I literally just told a friend that I feel like I’m living with a roommate, and settling for crumbs. I’m learning so much from you, and want to say thank you for sharing this information. Finally I’m realizing the craziness, and unnecessary pain I’ve been going through, and finding the courage to change my life, and get my peace back.
Unbelievable how many of these comments I read and think 'I could have written this'...scary really 😢 Thanks Dr Ramani for your work and bringing us together so we feel less alone. Five years since I left and I am still learning about/recovering from what I went through....psychological warfare I call it.
Intimacy Avoidance. Breadcrumbing. Future Faking. Each one were profoundly cruel and hurtful. Plus, many other wretched ‘tricks’ they’ll never own up to.
I'll take the beadcrumming future faking over the.dirty tricks used.never did i understand it and still dont butnever did i imaginesome who claims to love you could act in such a manner. I'm over it now but I have compassion for all stuck.
My narcissist husband told me after months of no sex that he felt that since we hadn't had sex for so long that he didn't feel comfortable having sex with me anymore. I remember how devastating that was to hear from my husband. But by then I was in such a narcissistic fog I was already numb. The emotional abuse was every bit as frightening as his physical abuse. Then I learned he had a new rx for Viagra and a secret life in another town. I feel fortunate to have gotten out when I did... and that was only due to the escalating physical abuse and letting my dr see the injuries and bruises. Thank you for being here and doing this!!
Dr. Ramani - it is like you had a front row seat in my marriage. You have helped me make sense of what happened and why I walked away absolutely hating myself.
I finally understand after 20. years & 2 beautiful children what was happening to me. It is so textbook. I used to say, "he didn't rush me all night"..."he hasn't lost his temper in one week". ... trauma bond is legit.
Great video, there is nothing like a perfect marriage or relationship, I learnt that in everything there is always a solution, 5 years ago I and my wife divorced because we were having some difficulties in our marriage but we are back together ,it was a really bad phase but we got through it
@Emilio Yepez its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is SHELLY RENEE WHITE.
Hey people - This chat right here is SPAM PROMOTING SKETCHY SPIRITUAL ADVISORS (many of whom promote spells and witch-craft) that are scattered across comments on UA-cam. It worries me that many of y'all are on a narcisssist education channel and can't spot users and abusers like these FAKE SPIRITUAL ADVISORS spamming comments. 🙁
This hits home so deep! The superficial performative intimacy is so 100% on point. By the time you start to trust your gut instincts and see it for what it is, it’s too late.
So true and the bruises/scars are invisible so any reaction others see from us makes us look like the bad guy BUT being defensive or frustrated are signs of someone who has endured years of emotional and mental pain and exhaustion, all behind closed doors 😢
It truly is. I always say I would rather get punched in the face because screwing with someone's mind is so abusive. Those wounds heal but scares remain the same.
@@nickijames5122 if you are available to get away from the narc please do so. It is so much worth it. You will start seeing the world out of the fog. Please do this for your soul. I can't because my kids listen to the narc and I am a immigrant no where to go except the narc. So please run 🙏 away if you get a chance.
@@bird2428 You have a safety net in the Domestic Violence Shelter. Call your local police or look for them on line or in the phone book. They can and will help you. Ask other women for help. Someone one will know where and how to get you help. Many churches have domestic violence shelters, also.
@@JonasAnandaKristiansson Agree. Never refer to this monster as "yours" - he/she never was, never will be, and to claim it like that means you allow it to be a part of you long after they're gone.
I would describe it as dancing without music. That’s what my marriage felt like. We were going through the motions and it looked like dancing, but it had none of the beauty and the joy that music would’ve brought to it.
But now you're talking lay people diagnosing personality disorders, and how well would that go, say, someone who dislikes another, thus unfairly labels them? It seems better suited for a trained doctor to diagnose. I'm dubious of how many narcissists the world now has since these youtube videos have become popular. It's like everyone is now a narcissist. Dr Ramani may be well-known and respected, but here she is giving it away for free, or is she? Her videos have to be quite profitable for her. There's just so much emphasis on narcissism, now, that one has to wonder more about it, and wonder why so many people are being called narcissistic. I would say that I've experienced narcissistic abuse, and now I'm more interested in understanding why that is and how I can change it. I just can't accept it all - narcissism - as is and as something that defines our lives and keeps us there. I'm also becoming tired of reading and hearing about all the narcissistic people in this world. It's making me feel that something else, something more, is at play here. Doesn't anyone else wonder why there's this ever-growing diagnosis with emphasis on narcissism?
I think this is one of the things behind obesity. I lived in a emotional famine from age 13 on. At the same time, I began gaining weight, filling my emotional emptiness with food, particularly sweets. I literally craved sweetness.
The sucrose gives you a fast energy boost and this is often perceived as feeling better. Being abused, constantly anxious, and constantly on edge is draining. So the energy boost from sucrose would lead to feeling better. And sweetness primordially reminds us of breast milk, being fed, and security that comes with it. Is this helpful in understanding the need for sweet foods? I hope you're able to recover 👍
He would call me vile names and then expect me to service him. Then get mad that I wasnt enthusiastic. I was also told I was no good unless I did. It began to feel like assault. It was awful. It wasnt an ask either it was coercion. Do it or pay the price. It ruins it all. I was a piece of furniture that got sat on that's all.
This is so relatable. And when you finally leave they spread the most vile sexual rumors around. And if that’s not a sign of an evil heart I don’t know what is.
It’s crazy how the closes to us hurt us the most. Strangers have treated me better than my husband.. On a different note x I can listen to Dr. Ramani all day.
Thank you for all your videos and helping me understand why my 20 year marriage failed. I took my daughter, then 8, and we started over. At first it was very hard on her but after 3 months she told me how much she loved our new life. She said "we laugh more and have fun" out of the mouth of baby's. She is now 25. She visits him 2-3 times a year...her choice. She feels that same lack of connection. He doesn't really know her at all and has made no effort to try. I had really hoped he could step up and be a good dad for her. When she does see him, she initiates it. He lives 10 miles away and can't be bothered.
In Scotland it is a crime. My ex partner is in court in 2 months and has been charged with threatening and abusive behaviour towards me which caused me alarm. This is a section 38 of the criminal justice act. Maximum sentence is 5 years in prison.
Wow, if only. I can't even get help from the sheriffs out in California to get rid of abusive squatters. Their rights take precedence over homeowners'. It's extremely painful what they are putting me through in my own home, and law enforcement is contributing to it by telling me I am allowed to do nothing, nada, not one thing to protect myself.
Well he took me back to court to try to steal my alimony this time he had a lawyer and the layer acted like him, they both lied in court. I represented myself and luckily with Gods grace I got to keep my alimony! I feel great Support In watching your videos about narcissistic abuse and I can’t believe the games that are played even four years after I have divorced him!! Thank you Ramani I have learned so much from you and it has saved my life!! ♥️♥️
Mine is using the legal/court system to punish me as well. He refuses to sign the bifurcation of marriage paperwork. He's being extremely difficult and petty. His Esq. is exactly like him as well.
Dr Ramani, I just discovered you - it’s as if my heart leaped out of my chest & began speaking. The power & validation that comes with hearing terminology that defines this type of person & abuse I’ve experienced is freeing. It’s like when you hear a song that you love & you just want to play it over & over again . “I’m not crazy, I’m not crazy, I’m not crazy” is the chorus. Pray for me as I plan for my freedom & try to find a way to escape my narcissist . 🙏
The sooner you do it, the sooner you will heal. Don't pain shop and stick around like I did for years and years! I will NEVER allow this to happen to me ever again. You learn so much the more you listen to these videos! I have a friend who is going through this now and she wants to have the last word. It will never happen nor does it matter....JUST GET OUT!!!
I am certain that there must have been some good times, but over a 30 year marriage, I can barely remember anything but the manipulation, head games, humiliation..... I am so glad that Dr Ramini has helped me put all that into perspective. I realize that it wasn't my fault; that I got sucked into the pattern. Thanks, Dr!
I am in a marriage with a narcissist. I am suffering the abuse of this. Thank you from the bottom of my suffering heart. It's nice to understand that I am not crazy & I am not alone. Thank you Thank you thank you
You are not alone. I will never be able to escape. I am a prisoner in my home of verbal, emotional and sadistic abuse. Especially when he puts chemicals in all my personal hygiene products to irritate my skin and my hair is falling out. I have reached out to people and I am ignored. I feel so alone.
Breadcrumbing was one of the most damaging things to ever happen to me. It felt so dehumanizing for someone you trusted to try and attach an emotional leash to you, only to ignore you for months or until you pulled away again. It worked for 6 months before I finally went scorched earth, and 3 years later they want back in. Absolutely not!
I’m starting to enjoy pulling away from my narc daughter and counting how long it takes for a love bomb text or phone call to try and lure me back for more punishment and manipulation. The good thing about narcissists-they’re predictable once you know their game; nor does her punishments or manipulations bother me. I’ll never ever let her know if anything bothers me. #heartless
@@Lena-so2lq Let him seeth. I’m on to my narc daughter and can almost write the script of what’s coming next. She bought a new house and sent us a photo telling the square footage, number of baths and bedrooms but no address. We said a simple congratulations because she’s been treating her parents like crap using our only grandchild as collateral. And then came the love bomb phone call to both of us with an “I love you” at the end. She had to talk about that fabulous house. We still don’t know the address or if we’ll ever be invited over.
This was a video that I felt actual flashbacks and pain watching because it hit home. It took me 3 or 4 times stopping and starting it just to get through it… I know Dr. Ramani is right… but I hit a wall a few times taking in the truth of this one. I’ll listen again … it’s just like she knows what went on under my married roof. I’m grateful for her knowledge and wisdom.
I had to stop it a few times, too, & go back & re-watch. He *almost* convinced me that it was me. Again. Dr. Ramani is the best--her videos have literally saved my life on more than one occasion. I will survive this, despite him. Never give up. Never give in.
This is one of the most insightful videos I have ever viewed. It made me feel ill to my stomach because it exactly and definitively defined my husband and why I hoped so much that things would improve, which of course they did not! Thank you so much for your expertise and for educating me and validating my own feelings…
Omg spot on 100% Dr. Ramani. Thank you for all your amazing videos. These monsters cannot ever be treated - run and never ever look back! There is nothing but pain especially for the Empath. They never change and they’ll try to tell you they will and they may for a short period of time, but they ALWAYS go back to the same cycle - love bomb, devalue, discard, REPEAT- they always repeat the sick abusive cycle! Do yourself a favor and get out no matter what you must leave behind. At least you’ll have your own self worth!
Being with my ex narc for the past 8 yrs. made me observe this very pattern. I think they wanted to feel very important in a way that is disturbing. Instead of building trust with their intimate partners, they destroy the trust that they built with you (in that case lying when they tried to put you in their pedestal). Once they have a committed partner, they can’t stand being loved authentically by one person. Instead they go on and prey on other women that is susceptible to their love bombing. My ex narc was a compulsive pursuer in a relationship. He would go back and forth to the women he were involved before or try to meet women in complicated situation so that going public isn’t an option while having you as their main supply. In the end they destroy the very person that loved them. They are like toddlers testing your love for them. Showing and telling them you love them isn’t enough, they will cheat on your face to make you feel inadequate even if you are more than they deserve. They want to test your love for them so they keep hurting you and when you have enough of their abuse, you leave. Then they tell you, ‘you never loved me because you abandon me’. Well in fact it’s their actions and narcissistic behavior that made you leave or in other cases they discard you and will give silly reasons of the discard. Mine would use, ‘she’s crazy’, ‘she’s a nega-star’, ‘she insults me’, ‘she cheated on me’ et al. So with this pattern of infidelities and emotional abuse (who knows what else) it’s better to walk away. I did walk away and is now rebuilding my life with our daughter. We are struggling financially because I’m not earning enough to provide for my daughter but now we get to laugh and bring with us sunshine every day. No lies, no abuse and no fake love. We only live once, forgive yourself and move forward but never forget the lesson that narc abuse taught you. That is to respect yourself to walk away from what’s hurting and destroying you. That you deserve a life of solitude, happiness and love. Hugs*** :) Additionally I hired a private detective Metaspyhub@gmail. com. Once I knew what the narc was up to, it got easier to get over that lying, cheating, sack of doo doo, loser. I didn’t need closure from the narc, I paid for it. Best money I EVER spent!
🎀I was all for your story until you mentioned,”Solitude” and showed the email address lol. Most people in controlling narcissistic relationships, want connection with others. Not solitude and isolation. Also what’s the point in providing an e-mail address? Scam?🎀
I’m starting this video for the third time in a row! I’m so relieved to hear it that I just need to hear it again and again.😮 I have never been so confused about myself before. The last 14 years have been shrouded in fog. Exhaustion from the constant confusion was a normal part of my life and 8 months later of no contact I’m still lacking in energy and drive. I’m struggling to show myself grace.
Mine relationship has ended with narc a week before only, I am struggling with either going back to her or just hold on to myself as I am 100 ,% sure that she is one narc I'm so confused
Talk to someone that can help you. There's all kinds of places online even and I'm sure the one who's speaking in this video can give you information how to start your life over and find peace with people who are loving and kind and normal and get away from this madness. You don't have to stay with a toxic person. You don't you don't. You don't
I cried several times through this video because I was so blind to see that my ex partner is a complete narcissist.... I couldn't comprehend why they did what they did and lack of what they did... thank you for this video, it really put my last relationship into perspective. That person is STILL trying to worm into my life and I can't understand why, they don't even see me.....
I divorced on 2008 from an narc. I was verbally abused, controlled every aspect of my life like money, friends etc. He made my life a living hell. For the people outside he was the life of the party but with me he was a monster. I was never enough, everything i did was a mistake and he always acted and blamed me for anything. I would never be enough for this person. In 2020 i lost my dad and the shock for me was huge. Now i find myself dealing with post traumatic stress and i just started therapy cause i never really got over this abuse and after my dads death everything is triggered and i can no longer control my emotions.
I hear ya. I'm with a man that's not 100% narcistic but definately has trades. He doesn't, for instance control the money or my social contacts. I do. But he can use emotional blackmail a lot. When my dad died of Parkinsons disease, everything got unravelled and I had to seek therapy also. My father was my rock, in life. My mom had already passed when I was 34. My boyfriend could not be trusted and turned out to be traumatized in his youth with an alcoholic dad and 12 (!) siblings. Jeez it's beginning to sound boring. Are there actually people who had a nice childhood, like myself?
Dear eve... don't give up you are loved and you have many sisters ( and brothers ) who have come through and are reading your comment and praying for your complete healing ! Love you eve ,take care of yourself ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
It already “is”; HOWEVER it’s usually entirely backwards!!! …Meaning that actual narcissists etc are using various compromised social power structures to accuse normal folks of being narcissistic or far worse! Sorry to mention this highly unpleasing reality…
Dr. Ramani, as a fellow clinical psychologist, I find your elucidation on 'breadcrumbing' and 'future faking' in narcissistic relationships both enlightening and disconcertingly accurate. The distinction you've drawn between the fleeting, manipulative 'crumbs' offered by narcissists and the genuine gestures of affection necessary for true intimacy is as stark as it is essential. Your insights remind us of the crucial importance of discerning authentic emotional connection from manipulative illusion. For those ensnared in such toxic dynamics, understanding these concepts could well be their first step towards liberation. Thank you for your wonderful content 🙂
You validated me and let me know that I did nothing wrong and the narcissistic relationship I was in for 20 years I don't know that I'll ever fully heal from this relationship
The court system should definitely consider narcissistic abuse as they would physical abuse.. it’s actually worse.
Much worse, yes.
I will sign the petition. My life has been consumed and left to dry , at 64, who would want the damaged abused me?! I've decided I'll stay alone to not gamble the risk of control or lies ever again.
@@melisentiapheiffer3034 That's for sure! I agree. I have a friend going through it now. The court should limit the # of times a diagnosed narcissist can drag a person into family court.
The UK does, apparently
I Totally agrred
When they treat strangers better than you, run. 😢💚
I'm unsure that narcissists treat strangers better. I believe they're Using strangers to feed their deep-seated narcissistic needs and means to their ends.
Narcissists don't care for others. They are entitled to be worshiped. I'm guessing here, but they have such a hollow center, they Need to be adored. They will crumble if they don't have an audience, made up of family members, their children, and others.
They can also turn violent. They will egg others to be violent. They will not be in front of the others, though. The crowd validates the narcissist's sense of power & presence.
Sounds familiar
Why
Ouch i knew it
That's the one that hurts the most
Through my narc I learned our bodies actually reject them before our minds and hearts. That is our gut instinct at work.
Oh wow, you are so right. 💯 I'm going through this right now. And I've been physically turned off by my Narc and look at him in disgust when he tries to speak to me about sex, and when he tries touching I stop him. I'm fascinated by this comment because it's so true.
I got nauseous and that’s never happened in my life. My body definitely began to reject him before I could.
Whoa, truth bullets!
Especially when one stumbles upon various affairs they’ve had over the course of the marriage. 😢
True, the body literally will not let them in 😳
In reality there is never a relationship with a narcissist…only an arrangement.
@@lauracollins28 That sounds like the mindset of a call girl and if that is a relationship to someone and they are ok with it than so be it for them but they are missing out on what a relationship is meant to be in an intimate sense .
No relationship never has problems but the purpose of both should be to love and support the either emotionally at its core and if in my opinion it is not the relationship will always fail even if the "transactions" continue because relationships can never be a business in the sense of transactions .
Yes I recognise this
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@@RoccoFreemantell me you don't understand anything that was said in the video without telling me... Most ppl have no clue they are in a relationship with a narcissist because of the tactics and manipulation. Especially since narcissists are attracted to very empathetic people most of whom will try to work on themselves and love the narcissism out of the narcissist ( which can't be done)
"If you've come through a narcissistic relationship, you possess a strength beyond the ordinary. Now harness that strength to pursue your dreams and make them a reality."
If the abusers were both your parents you might have to find yourself some self-esteem first. An extremely difficult task. I'm now whole at 62.
Four hospitalizations, four breakdowns and a mother still alive at 87 for whom I feel nothing .
I will ❤ thank you
@@taylorhannah5980 make sure you get some counseling from a therapist who understands narcissistic abuse. Then you really will be able to draw on your experience and what you learned to never get in a relationship with a toxic person ever again. You will also be able to believe other hurting people who have no idea what’s happening . You will still hurt a little and think back too much . Just seeing that person as an enemy to your well being is the biggest victory. But please get help from a counselor first. ❤. Rid yourself of their voice in your head. Learn to love and affirm and comfort yourself. That is what makes you strong . ❤
I did! One mother whom I fled at age 18, when I was till a Minor. She drove my father to suicide when I was 3. My 2 siblings stayed in her control and they ALL, died, suddenly, 30 years ago. 2 husbands whom I stayed loyal to for years before fleeing the first, and, years later, throwing out the second, over13 years ago. Now, a son, my only child, with whom I want no contact ever again. ALL 4 put my life and well-being in danger! I am so glad I found this wonnderful Doctor to explain the Dynamics I witnessed and experienced and " why" I will recognize such Narcissism again in a friend. Actually, I am nearly 80 and very happy on my own. I have loads of interests and am very active in life. God bless you, Doctor Ramani! You are saving lives _ and sanity!
Definitely have learned to follow my gut. I am very Aware!!!
The fact that she does not charge anything for her lectures is just beyond me. I'm forever grateful because Dr Ramny gave me the strength and courage to leave my narc of 5 years. She saved my life. The information you could gain from this woman is worth more than gold when you're devastated or discarded by a narcissist.
Words can’t express how amazing she is, and she taught me what was going on in my life it was and still is jaw-dropping. And she literally saved my sanity because I was in extreme pain. And I could say so much more but we all know what I’m saying.
I like to listen to George simons too, his talks make a lot of sense.
Agreed, she’s got it. Completely getting it, the Narc hates it 😂
She is exceptional and covers a lot of territory!
Agree! ❤
“Those who get angry when you set a boundary are the ones you need to set boundaries for.”
- J.S. Wolfe, The Pathology of Innocence
I had a therapist teach a class on setting boundaries. The next day she yelled at me for setting boundaries and called me anti-social and a racist. The guy I set a boundary with told me "Man, it's the morning time. I got the right to f*ck with people." I was also called a racist for quoting MLK. Apparently, according to "science", it is now racist to judge someone based on the content of their character, not the color of their skin. I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone. MLK a white supremacist?! WTF?
Omg yes....😮
@@dakoderii4221 the great black activist Martin Luther King??!?????!??? 😶🌫️ don't run out of there, fly.
So true, sad to say that applies to some of my family members!
@@dakoderii4221I guarantee there is more to this story than you are telling us.
"Disrespect, denial, contempt and gaslighting" Every single time.
The biggest tragedy in narcissistic relationship is that many people stuck in this relationship take so many years to figure it out and what is happening to them .These are big losses
So true. Just wish my eyes had been open 38 years ago. I would have gone to the other side of the world to escape.
It took me 9 years. Then I tried to show my mom, and my sister what was happening to them too. Of course the cycle runs in families. Of course I was with a narcissist, because my dad is, and of course my sister is with a narcissist, because our dad is! But you really can’t tell anyone anything. They have to learn on their own. Even though the information I’ve given them, I WISH someone had given me! It would’ve explained so much and saved me so many years of my life!
We suffer in silence, literally, behind closed doors yet have to sit back and watch your own family gush over him! It’s sickening and a very isolating soul destroying existence 😢
Exactly. I’ve been married 38 years and it’s been a few I’ve learned it’s not my fault. He had me so brainwashed everything bad was my fault . Really he played mind games, head games. He woukd say horrible lies and in such a nice sweet way. I was the fool.
Dr Ramani, I have 4 children that I love with all my heart. They have. Been the best thing that ever happened to me. How can I have the best thing that ever happened to me yet I don’t love the daddy
My narc would not even breadcrumb. I remember having the flu. I had a temperature of 103. I was so sick I couldn’t walk without passing out. I’d thrown up so much I was completely dehydrated. I lay there thirsty for hours before bothering my nearby husband for a glass of water. He retorted, “ Get it yourself. I’m not your servant.” I had to crawl to the kitchen and nearly passed out while standing at the sink. I was shocked. This was someone I had waited on hand and foot every day, serving him his food on a tray, getting up to get him seconds, making and serving him two cups of tea each night. And he would not even get me a glass of water.
Don't be Old or $icK Any where near these - ppl? They already want to annihilate you.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. Something similar happened to me. I knew then I was in trouble.
They always say you are faking being sick.😢
@@erolei1650 OR that it is your own fault that you got sick because of one of your many failures, which they will o not be too happy to explain to you. 🤣 You can’t catch a break with narcs!
Literally today, he told me I am faking having covid, because I said I was going to sleep in another room , to protect HIM. I was so discusted with his comment. I took a test infront of him and shoved it in his face ...yes covid filled. He has not even asked if I am ok.
Narcissists can be summed up like this. Basically, if you DON'T do things THEIR WAY, you are screwed!!
We HAVE to dispassionately and compassionately be able to say “NO” to petulant demands, within reasonable and respectful bounds.
Yep my way or the highway and now they sit
From what I’ve experienced it’s a seared conscious and inability to have empathy toward those they hurt.
Yep
Narcissists move VERY fast in relationships. It's not uncommon to hear, “I love you", and/or be bombarded with love songs/texts/memes a few weeks after meeting them. By rushing into sex/intimacy, they fast-forward the relationship. They get their targets to fall for them before he/she can realize something is amiss. I believe this is also the reason they tend to be VERY good lovers. Sex is usually the “hook” in toxic relationships. Narcissists lack genuine personalities. So, they mirror their targets. If you find you have “so much in common" with a new person, your likes are their likes, and your dislikes are coincidentally their dislikes as well, raise your antennas! They may be mirroring you. This is the “soulmates" hook… You'll also notice that they'll spend more time telling you who they are, verses showing you. As time goes on, you'll notice the words they used to describe themselves do not fit their personality - at all. But, they will fit YOURS!!! Passive-aggressive behavior and irrational/unexplained anger, are also major red flags. Pay attention to how a person treats you the first time you say, “No”, and/or when things don't go their way… If they give you the silent treatment, grow cold, and/or pull away, do not overlook it! Most importantly, if someone pulls away, or goes silent, after you set a boundary - DO NOT pursue them! This is how they groom you to be the chaser in the relationship. It's emotional abuse/manipulation! Pay close attention to people who portray themselves as victims.
NOTHING is EVER their fault! EVERYONE, including the family pet, has done them wrong… ALL of their ex's are “crazy” and mistreated them… They’re great, but no one appreciates said greatness… Simply put, it's bullshit! No one should have a laundry list of bad experiences. If they do, RUN, because they're the common denominator! Narcissists tend to have a history of failed/short-term relationships. Believe it or not, it's hard for Narcissists to find people to deal with them long term due to their instability and poor behavior… Superficial relationships/friendships. I've noticed they don't have anyone they're genuinely close to. This is due to their inability to bond and form true attachments to people. Their relationships are shallow and based on surface-level bs. They'll refer to someone as their bestfriend, but you’ll notice they barely speak. Or, that the person is never really around. Or, only shows up when it's time to party, etc. They may also speak down on/poorly of said “bestfriend” behind their back. Narcissists tend to be condescending, two-faced and downright mean! Based on my experience, they cannot talk about deep subjects (i.e. fears/emotions). Or, how a situation truly made them feel. Or, what their childhood was like in detail… They don't want to go there. I suspect, it's because they can't. They don't know themselves well enough. They can't connect. They also live in a world of dishonesty. They're very dishonest with themselves about who they truly are. A poor relationship with their Mother/primary caregiver. Underlying issues between Narcissists and their Mother's (abuse, neglect, don’t get along, etc.), seems to be common. People that I've known who've displayed strong Narcissistic tendencies, ALL had bad relationships with their Mothers! I think it's worth mentioning, their Mother's also displayed strong Narcissistic traits… I'm fully aware and understand that there are healthy adults who have toxic Mother's.
However, if you're spotting several red flags in an individual, including this one, pay closer attention! They're selfish! Some are selfish from the very beginning. Some start out generous and slowly begin withholding. Some act helpless and needy. They manipulate people into doing things for them, but never give back. It's not only financial and material selfishness. They're selfish emotionally, affectionately, conversationally. sexually and with their attention. They withhold validation and support. EVERYTHING has to be about them, their needs, their wants and everything happens on their terms. Anger, rage, silent treatments and disappearing acts are common - when they don't get their way. Pathological lying. Narcissists are professional liars. It's their second nature. If you call them out, they'll have no issue staring deeply into your eyes as they tell another lie! You'll hardly ever get the truth. Even with unchallengeable proof of the truth, they'll hold on to the lie. It's actually quite fascinating to see them in action - once you know what you’re dealing with. They also have the uncanny ability to provoke doubt in their victims (even when you KNOW the truth), because their lies are so convincing! Beware of people who do not seek conflict resolution. Many Narcissists enjoy drama/chaos! Remember, these are high-conflict personalities. Many of them NEED to argue and fight! Peace to a narcissist, is what chaos is to non-disordered people - unsettling. This is why they repeat behaviors that trigger a negative response. They need tension, anger and high/out of control emotions. They're known for calling people crazy, drama queens, insecure, etc., but never admit what they did to provoke those responses. And, when you attempt to discuss/resolve something, THEY said/did, they’ll gaslight, stonewall and/or flip it back on to you.
They're extremely disrespectful, rude and lack self-awareness. They have an issue with being called out on their behavior and project/deflect to avoid accountability. “Normal” people want to get along, for the most part. So, they seek fair compromises when conflict arises. Narcissists want to “win” and conflict IS their niche. This is how many Narcissists get their way - they wear people down via conflict. Immaturity. It’s one thing to be playful and lighthearted (in appropriate settings), as an adult. It’s something completely different to be immature. Narcissists suffer from arrested development. They do not know how to respond to situations/people/stress/life appropriately. They have a child-like mindset. They truly believe everything is about them and have no concept of the needs of others. By nature, children are takers. They have no concept of reciprocation. They believe their Parents (and everyone else), exists to meet their needs. When their needs aren’t met, or they don’t get what they want, they become mean and throw tantrums. Narcissists cannot think outside of themselves and their wants/needs - like children. They’re completely unaware that people are individuals with their own agency, needs, wants, opinions... They truly believe people exist to serve them. They believe their job is to receive. They’re children trapped in adult bodies, who cannot consider anything/anyone other than themselves! Above everything I've stated, trust your intuition! Narcissists give off an uneasy vibe. They try very hard to appear cool, calm and collected - on the surface. But, you can feel their energy. It's very off-putting. They also tend to have more noticeable negative qualities, than most people. But, you have to stop justifying and making excuses, in order to see things clearly. Accept people for who they are and not who you want them to be. Observe, listen and trust yourself. No one should be allowed to grant themselves a position in your life. Vet people and YOU decide if they'll be a liability, or an asset, to you. Lastly, take cues from your body. If you ever feel your mood changing, feel anxious or feel your stomach knot up, in the company of someone, don't dismiss it! It could be a sign that you're in bad company!!!
Additionally, If you suspect cheating or other forms of manipulation and need to gather evidence for your own peace of mind, you may consider reaching out for assistance. For more information, you can contact: Barryinvestigation@gmail. com
I was 21 when I met him. I was fresh, naive....protected by my loving parents. I didn't have a clue. I tried to leave once when I was 30. My family was manipulated by him and strongly encouraged me to "save my marriage." We lived far apart. They didn't see it. I finally divorced and moved away at 53. I'm healing but he almost destroyed me.....
Yay❣️ 11 years in, 56 with no family around and trying to make an escape (disappearing) from his radar...😵💫🤯🙏👍❗
God bless and thanks for sharing ❤
I lived for 25 years on bread crumbs, on my own. I left at 62. I thank God for saving my soul.
I truly understand!
@user-wd5qw2sr4d: When I read your post above, it was EXACTLY as if I had written it myself, only I was 20 when I met my narcissist. My "marriage" lasted 4½ long, miserable years. I was so naive and had never encountered anyone as callous and hurtful as he was. After we divorced, I moved to 2 different cities, but he found me twice and showed up at my door wanting to get back together. No way would I even consider it !!!
Although I came close a few times, I could never remarry and therefore never had any children. I'm now retired and live happily alone with my rescued dogs. I often wonder what my life would have been like if I had never met "the creature." I had so much love to give.
You hit it on the head about, "I might as well do everything alone". But, I finally realized that if I'm gonna do everything alone, I might as well be alone. I divorced him after 15 years.
I also came to this conclusion two years ago. Take care dear. You can also watch NARCdaily who explains well what happens in the narcissistic relationship.
Exactly! It felt wrong to be in a marriage and be so LONELY.
I have done everything alone too.
When I was married. I felt so alone! But after awhile. I realized being alone was better, than being with him!
@@Evewasfraimed women are too socialized to "get that man - have a child" - "you're nothing without a man" (I remember a girlfriend of mine reading a book entitled: Why Am I Nothing Without a Man"!!!!! I've met so many young single women who prefer staying single and childless.. new generation.. men are less spiritually advanced than most women.. not all men.. I'm not a man hater.. but you get my drift..I get the "aloneness" being with a narcissist...put your attention on loving yourself & enjoy your freedom..when I was younger I met so many unhappily married women..some of my girlfriends would come over and spend the night at my place after fights with their partners.. I really was hesitant to get involved with men.. especially during the male chauvinist times I grew up in!! I ended up on disability..traumatized..I knew I needed to meditate because of intuitive experiences I've had most of my life.. that led to studying psychic development, then mediumship - my self-confidence increased - then found out I had healing abilities.. so get started on your own life..Good Luck & Prosperity to you!
It’s scary how narcissists don’t value relationships but need people for narcissistic supply…
It IS terrifying because they will churn right through humanity if they go unchecked.
They should call it variety disorder.....
majority of narcissists are social butterflies and they crave attention so yeah they need a lot of people in their circle to gain more attention
Yes it’s sick
Very much so.
After fifty years, I don’t miss him at all. Fifty years of slavery. I just didn’t know how to describe it. From his retirement, he became a full fledged alcoholic, became morbidly obese and helpless. For two weeks I put off going to hospital, not aware I’d broken my hip because he couldn’t do anything for himself. Since last year, when he died, I’m learning so much about myself and I’m very happy now
OMG. I'm so glad that you're happy now. And sorry that you suffered so much. I watched my mom go through that, with my violent alcoholic father, and at 18, I told her she must leave him, and she finally did. She was 38. And foolishly, she married again. And had two more children (to add to the four she already had). Need less to say, we were all traumatized for the rest of our lives. I'm 82 and still suffer. I keep going. But my body is giving up. I try for a way forward. I still look for the "golden years." What a bad joke. Women of our generation were sold a bill of goods. DANGEROUSLY BRAINWASHED.
Don't ever let anyone shame you about feeling better. I haven't been sad about my x passing away, after 13 years of abuse.
Pathetic how they treat you like shit talk to you like shit make a.big deal out of the .out millions or things like for like Lea ING alive water in a water bottle then chewing you out for 3 or 4 days about wasting water im so tired and fed up with this attitude.but know it's starting to be in public or when friends or family are over you feel me 18 years of being treated like crap and then wonders why I don't feel like romantic I just can't.
@@marjoriegarner5369
Growing up in a small town, I witnessed such behaviour amongst several of our neighbours.
Wich made me think "how do I know wich of my peers will turn out abusive" ?
I decided against both marriage and kids.
I was 14.
I told people " Its not my job to populate the world" !
I'm 62 now.
No regrets.
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Narcissistic people need a "partner," but the need is in the same way that a parasite needs a host. They are like a different species, with different motivations for being in relationship, and different needs, than what a non-narcissistic person has. If you are not narcissistic, and you understand what a narcissistic person is, you understand the relationship can only harm you.
They are users. Parasites.
true
So true
Some of these replies are strange women think sex is the only intimacy men know but unfortunately most men get 0 contact with the outside world that's the only affection they get is whatever crazy flavor of the month their with ....that's not narcissistic just being a man is narcissistic it seems quit using that word for anything a certain group uses as a weapon .
@@areuarealman7269 Not sure I follow your thinking. "Just being a man" does not have to mean being narcissistic, but if you are saying our society rewards men for narcissistic behavior, I agree with you. (Plenty of women are narcissistic too, they just use more covert tactics to get supply.)
I'm dealing with the mental illness caused by being in narcisistic relationships for 74 years, (mother and husband) and doubt I will ever recover. At least I am now free and finding peace and validation through your invaluable videos. I can honestly say you saved my life Dr. Ramani ... God bless you.XOXOXOXO.
I do understand the mental illness related narcissistic abuse. I am there with you. It does help to hear the Dr talk, to understand how the narcissistic think. Hold in there, your the winner!!! 😊
I’m with you! Mine lasted over 30 years. The psychological damage is incredibly unimaginable. And the physical destruction of the nervous system, digestive system ( and more) takes such a toll. Even if I can never be the prior me, I still try to learn and find every avenue. For me Dr Ramani is like a warm blanket that helps nurse me back to reality and peace. And yes, we win, because we are free! But the winners are also those who know but stick it out to protect their children. I did, and my kids are now all winners too!
I don’t know your circumstances, but I’m so glad you’re free!!!
My mom has been with my narcissistic father for 48 years and I so wish she would leave him. But I know she’s been so beaten down over the decades (everything but physically) that she probably will never have the self-assurance needed to do so.
Even though much of your life is behind you, I hope you’re able to discover and pursue the things that make you happy. You deserve every last drop of freedom, peace, and goodness that you can squeeze out of each day 💜💜💜
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@@pamlure9616 🙏🙏🙏💜
At 48 I’m just learning of this pattern that my narc mother instilled in me: “if I’m good, I’ll get the help I need.” I’ve wasted my life keeping up my end of the bargain-being “good” for future-fakers and users. I was so brainwashed into thinking it’s “bad” to put myself first, but I’m slowly unlearning the fruitless, codependent behaviors that were bullied into me as a sad, lonely, scared little girl.
Hugs 🤗🤗🤗 had the same mother. I was groomed to put everyone’s needs above my own even if they hurt me. Needless to say I’ve fell prey to some pretty twisted people. Education will deliver us from evil. It’s our time now.
Books to read DADDY THROWS ME IN THE AIR - memoir/self-help FEAST OF MEN & REFLECTIONS OF THE CURSE - journey of a woman's heart
So well put! I I just went to the emergency room, my mother drove me. She was antagonizing me and trying to make me going to the ER about her. I screamed and told her it wasn't all about her & what's wrong with you. When I had a grand mal seizure & bit off part of my tongue in front of her, she finally got it. However, now I'm over it. No longer going to people please assholes. She's so emotionally immature and inept, I can no longer take it personally. I think that's the breakthrough...there is literally nothing I can do to change what she's incapable of giving.
Totally get that. The always having to be 'good' no matter what anyone else does including mom herself
Thanks for your post, it just rang a bell and I finally understand, why a family member was attracted to people, who need "help". Helping other people is the only way to feel selfworth, if you were taught not to take yourself seriously, even then, when you're being mistreated and taken advantage of. If you're mistreated or taken advantage of, you blame yourself to have taken yourself too seriously, therefore things turned out bad/the person reacted negatively/... and in consequence you put all your energy in trying to meet the other person's needs the next time, the next time, the next time,...
1. Withholding intimacy
2. Breadcrumbing
3. Future faking
U betcha! Fuckem...
Future faking….perfect description 😢
@@LeahTraversyes just texted me to cancel our dinner date this evening. But I knew it was coming.
@@KathieRopele74 tells me to turn down a high paying job and find one in his state but when I send opportunities he finds fault with the job, won’t even call or communicate knowing I am on vacation and wanting to plan on seeing him over the summer. But, oh yeah the future just doesn’t ever get planned it’s always a problem with his work schedule every single vacation I have
future faking - what kept Gabby Petito with her murderer. "The engagement."
"You actually get used to living in an emotional famine." This pretty well sums up life with a narcissist.
Thank you Dr. Ramani. You opened my eyes and helped me move on.
Because they fully believe that they have all the power in the marriage in every regard
Emotional famine describes it to a T. Well said.
I think they work off an Emotional Scarcity Economy. If you care about others, if you admire others for any reason including accomplishments, if you’re feeling for example empathy for another etc. these freaks view that as less left for them. In their view there’s a finite amount of intangibles such as love, care, compassion etc. And they gotta have it ALL-which means you get none. Even as a child we’re treated the same way and are at the mercy of their whims, living in terror of their predictable unpredictability. It’s truly living with a Human IED.
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When I started realizing I was married to a narcisist (he's the ex now) before I truly knew what I was dealing with(just starting to realize it) I said to the ex, I feel like I was put into a war that I didn't even know I was in & the rules keep changing.
A few months later when I stumbled on the word gaslighting & looked it up, it led me to NPD & that's when pieces of the puzzle started falling into place because it described to a T what I had been dealing with & I saw the comment I had made to the ex(the 1 above about being in a war as well as other comments like that) it was both enlightening & weird.
@@tundrawomansays694THIS
In the end when you said that narcissists are the greatest illusionists and magicians and Masters of disguise and deception. I thought about how the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist
Right on
I lived on “ hope , optimism and determination. It takes two people to make a relationship work but only one to sabotage it.
So true!!!
As did I…thinking communication could fix it.
Very true my friend ! A good point
Well said.
The bread crumbs did not keep me in the marriage, financial fear kept me stuck
That's me now 15yrs later after realizing what I married!
👀 this...😥😢😣
Me too married almost 44 years
Financial. My dog. We share a house. 😢 Way too many years.
Same.😒
OMG the lack of intimacy is what tore me apart. I was married for 35 years & I always thought it'd get better. I thought it was me.I dealt with severe depression always feeling I wasn't doing something right.
*Thank you for all you do*
I’m so sorry
I’ve been married 34 years
He promised to be faithful and married to me but NEVER WAS
he cheated on me the entire 34 years so far
There has never been any intimacy
Zero
Once I found out he was cheating in 2006 I left and we’ve never been intimate since cuz he’d rather be with prostitutes
I stayed for the kids 😢 he would have turned them against me
There’s no intimacy
He doesn’t care
He hasn’t communicated with me for 11 days … so evil and cruel
I saw a cockroach
My heart goes out to you. I have been feeling exactly the same way as you did and my narc is in the process of discarding me. You keep telling yourself it will get better because there is nothing that makes any sense that is wrong with the relationship. Then you discover NPD. What an eye opener and heartbreaker simultaneously. Good luck to you in the future.
@Trueblue222 Thank you & good luck to you as well. Stay positive. Time doesn't heal it but it helps to make it easier.
I have been married to mine for 17 years and I feel this to the core because it has happened to me as well. I finally called it quits I just couldn't with the loneliness anymore or the illnesses
Using your own children/ family , your own money and the law against you are the cruelest examples of evil & destructive narcissistic behavior
Yes,and he knew how important my kids were for me.
Yes. I have been on the receiving end of this with family and friends more times than I can count. My commitment to myself and my life is to never accept this behavior from someone again. I will not accept it. I lost friends and most of my family by making this commitment, and it has been worth it.
Think you might like DSD Duane on here.
Who knew false arrest wasn't easy to just shrug off in real life, right?
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Godspeed to you.
My mother called the police on me .....like she was a good citizen! brought nothing but misery. Any favours they do it gets twisted back to hit you in the face then you owe them so much you are discredited and devalued at every turn. Smear campaigns and so on.....its got to be one of the worst human conditions by far
You can see it in their eyes, how they despise you & choose not to see or acknowledge you.
I remember two weeks before I ended my Toxic Relationship I woke up and I looked over and my ex was staring at me, he was looking at me with this look that felt like "what does it take to break you" I will never forget that look. Then I remember looking at him while he was sitting at the kitchen table and he looked at me with this most disgusting look. The one thing that I still can't figure out is every look has a different look but they weren't exactly the same. This was weird too me.😮
My husband was looking at me with the look of disgust last night when I was setting a boundary. A simple boundary… not telling me by when he leaves the house is not acceptable
Yes, indeed! It's a very effed up feeling. I've been living in complete contempt for years!!!
Either my soon-to-be ex husband would never look at me when criticizing me, saying hello upon his return home from work, and giving his edicts or he'd look at me with derision.
@@PatriciaFrank-k7j I understand what you’re saying. I’m experiencing some similar things. I have found that watching videos and doing research on what love looks like and how to tell if he truly loves you or not type stuff, that information puts some perspective into my situation and helps me understand what my intuition tells me. In a toxic relationship, cognitive dissonance is very real and debilitating. But I know how love looks feels and behaves. I just get lost and confused and forget. When I see my husband looking at me with distain and disgust, I know that is not what love is. When he says things that leave me feeling unloved and yucky inside, I know that isn’t love. When I look at myself and realize that I don’t like who I am in this relationship, this isn’t the person I used to be, this isn’t who I am, I know that this isn’t a love thing it’s a toxic thing and I am dieing in it. I don’t want to be bitter, paranoid, judgmental, and hateful. It’s just not who I am. It’s who I am in a loveless situation
1. Intimacy avoidance
2. Breadcrumbing
3. Future-faking
Been there, experienced all three, it was over for 7 months. I think I was lucky!!!!
Future fakers are the worst - just an illusion to drain you of resources.
Thanks for another great video Dr. Ramani ❤
You have hit the mail on the head. I lost the sex drive long ago because he’d be harsh, unfeeling or use the silent treatment, but then, like you said, bread crumb and start to be warm, and I could tell he wanted sex. If I said I didn’t want to, he’d always pulled the “you’re not a good wife if you deny sex. You’re not a good Christian if you don’t submit to me.” I’d give in to his tantrum but honestly felt like I was being raped by a stranger. We’re separated now because after being married 50 years, I finally woke up and see his tactics. Much thanks to you, Dr. Ramini.
Thats rape actually: your Feelings are valid
Is it because that’s exactly how I felt
I have also been married 50 years on paper. After three months married, he started grooming me. He has had at least 9 other women in this marriage. I think about it, Princess Diana thought three was crowded, and than even though Charles is an evil narcissist he becomes king and her consort. Why is it that these evil people get away with it. His last girlfriend 11 years love bombing her, while I lost my Mom, got Shingles, and then cancer, dealing with cancer all alone during pandemic while he was suppose to be taking care of me he would spend all his time with her, the happy couple. I was not allowed to do stairs for first 2 weeks after surgery, he would leave me at 10 in the morning and come home late in the day leaving with no food or drink until he got home.
Narcs often deny sex as well.
@@huskyyukon Diana was a complete nutcase and a narc, not Charles he just wanted to get away from her.
What a horrible way to go through life, isn't it? Being antagonistic, paranoid, angry, rageful, vengeful, entitled, controlling and contemptuous towards the people closest to you. I just don't get it. It drives people away, your adult children describe you as an a***hole and want very little to do with you. An empty life.
For them it is normal. They dont care. We find it unbelievable
Well Said ❤
Yes it is
As a parent who went no contact with our 40 year old child, I can say with certainty that they were miserable and hard to get along with since childhood. We tried everything and it has killed us in many ways. The cruelty, disrespect and abuse over the years got worse and worse. It’s not better. It will NEVER be better. But at least we took a stand and said no more to the direct abuse. The smear campaign has been like a horror movie, only because we know what they are capable of. We have lost hope.
Doesn’t bother them one bit. If it did they would change.
I tell ya' the more I see these videos the more I appreciate being single. Whew !! 😬 I have peace in my home. I am not missing A THING. You with me readers ?!!
It’s so interesting the mention of a lack of intimacy being tied to being with a stranger. Shortly after I got married (following a super quick courtship), I found out how cruel my husband was. I recall starting to write a poem with the theme of “A stranger wears his face”.
It took thirty years to finally leave, after raising a son together and serving as ministers throughout our entire marriage. After enduring his infidelity a second time, I realized I just couldn’t be intimate with someone I could no longer trust. It’s hard to know what parts of those thirty years were true and which parts were lies. He was not at all who I thought I was marrying!
I feel the same ... 23 miserable years with a stranger ... I only recently found out about Narcissists ... and he hates that the UA-cam playlist on the TV ... recommends a heaps of Narc videos 😂
@@tonikip7886Is that safe?? Won’t he go into a rage when he sees it?
Finish that poem, it sounds spooky! 👻
Ditto😮 re really marrying a Stranger who quickly turned Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde *after I fell-n-love & married tooo fast to understand Alll the red flags ... & i survived near 10 years of horrible narcissist-marriage, & he plays the part of a (wolf) "minister"... oh yay🙄... & IS still abusing by proxy thru his on-going *12 year frivolous custody-battle,* & he Still gets away with his abuse-by-proxy thru our 3 presh children nc he pays big to corrupt Attorneys...
& continues w/ worst Parental Alienation, & alll his abuse is "legally-Allowed" by Family Court in Tarrant Cnty...🙏🏻🙏🏽🙏🏼for our children to truly seee the Truth in Alll Matters re what he has done to us for 21 years... & To be Freed from his abuse & completely Healed, Restored unto me as their Mother & alll our lost time together, esp of past 5 years & continuing...
Ministers 😮😂😂
That discomfort with having sex with the narcissistic husband is translated as “she’s frigid” by him. It’s particularly cruel because he knows he’s the one causing it. I frequently hear people saying how much they miss the sex from their romantic narcissistic relationship. Can’t relate. Not being guilted and coerced into the worst sex I’ve ever experienced is the best part of freedom.
It's horrible when your body isn't your own; it is theirs to use. You have no agency, and it is indeed terrible. The pouting the whining the tantrums it's so not attractive. They don't understand.. I have never felt so demeaned as a person in all my life. He made something beautiful ugly and I hated it.
Gave up sex many years ago was so tired of being gaslighted with lies during the day and a sleeping pill at night.
Agreed!! I am so grateful that part of my life is over. I have been gone for 8 months. My life is so much more peaceful and I am not changing that ever.
Exactly!
I refused to allow him back into my bed after I found out how many other women he was having affairs with while we were married. Then he proceeds to tell everyone that I have a sex problem and that is why we broke up. So, he moves in with a neighbor who was convinced that I was the worst woman on the planet for the way I treated my poor soon to be ex. That lasted less than two weeks before the Narc got thrown out of there. My neighbor commented that he didn't know how I put up with the Narc as long as I did.
First off I want to thank Dr Ramani for helping me wake up and realize what is going on and what has been going on for the last 49 years of my marriage! I cry when I watch videos regarding narcassists and what he’s done to me but I also cry for all these people who were treated just as badly as I have been!
I have been dealing with this for 40 years after the love bombing ended so did the what thought was real love. He says off of the wall stuff and looks at me and says” Well I guess I will have to go somewhere else to get me some”. He has gotten so rude and tells me often to get out of his house. We saw a semi truck on the highway the trailer read “ Heaven or Hell it’s you choice” I looked at him and said, there’s your sign, he looked at me with disgust in his eyes. If looks could kill I’d would be dead.
@@cyndim8785Are you trapped financially, or is there a possibility of escape? My heart goes out to you. What a nasty evil man, I hope that semi truck comes back around & squashes him like a bug.
I hope you get out of it I am 37 horrible years with lyme disease and longhauler covid and am working on getting out I gave him half of my house and he is living here freeloading and gets mad if I ask him for money@@cyndim8785 I am paying the mortgage and half the time in a wheechair hope god helps you in gaining strength to leave good luck to all us suffering souls with gods help
Yes, he equated sex to intimacy. When I tried to explain to him what intimacy really is, he looked at me as if I were from another planet. When I would try to talk to him about family, childhood etc, he immediately shut down. Leading up to sex he was very affectionate and knew all the moves to make. Afterwards, his demeanor would totally change and he would become cold and distant. You could literally see his face change, it was unsettling.
I had the same exact humiliating experience,, we have to be very grateful that we got out of this hell trap
☀️☀️ I say stay away from people who harm your inner peace and self! They are like a slow poison, and the sooner you realize this, the sooner you can stop drinking it! 💯
@@Feribrat99 Sorry, Karen, but it's up to you to figure out how to leave these people behind. Nobody can do that for you.
Said well 👍 😊
one thousand thumbs up!!!
You have a keen perspective on this subject. Your words hit me right between the eyes. Thank you so much for posting.
People not impacted will never understand the depth of pain and damage a narcissistic relationship has and how it changes a person and the level of strength it takes for restoration to take place with alot of prayer and a close bond of people that provide understanding and support on the path of recovery. Trust me even family members don't understand so the circle might only be 1 or 2 friends. Every thing Doctor Ramani explains is what I experienced and more but I am free now , no contact and I immediately walk away from toxic people that add no value to my life. The road to recovery is hard but with prayer , understanding people around you and teachings like Dr Ramani that helps us understand we are not alone and we are not the problem, Yes we now realise our self worth and self respect to start living our lives as God intended with lots of peace, joy and love. I did it and so can you.
Narcissists are simply two-year-olds who never grew up.
Younger than 2 like 12 months old
i think thats because i think they are subconsciously trying to mask it. weird way to think about that. indicator of some past trauma , unfairness, abuse in childhood before and during adolescence. so narcissistic parent can have a detrimental effect of the developing individual at that hormonal time.
This is the most brutal, saddest truth. Thank you for the reality check.
The brainwashing is probably the worst part: the unsuspecting victim becomes imprinted with the narcs false, dark, relentless projections. So you walk around bearing a false identity. The intense grief work begins when one is ready to go NO CONTACT, and start the inner reparenting journey.
One cannot stay safe nor sane in relationship with them. The body indeed keeps the score.
Thank you, Dr. Ramani - your videos are a global treasure.❤
The body indeed keeps the score ? Yes !!
If only I had known about narcissism two years ago! But then, I wouldn't have become a much wiser and better person!
Yes, the body keeps score! I would have recognized that he was the reason my BP went from being naturally on the low side to spiking up and down to dangerous levels in the same day! It was from walking on eggshells, being ordered around in my own home in which HE WAS THE GUEST because sneaky Brother was "homeless". Never ending cleaning up after him and his dog, which had to be in the bedroom with him while my dogs bedded in the closed in porch! Constant criticism. Rage fits. Language never heard in my home. Tantrums. Lies! Deliberate destruction of my tools and farm equipment. Black holes in my hardwood floor from live coals he let burn through the wood.... The list is unending.
Then demanding I drive him over a thousand miles to take care of His business - stealing finances, credit card number and family heirlooms from the 16th century which can never be replaced. Still I am finding "stuff" he accomplished to destroy me for having permitted him to live in my home for free.
He left me with the gift of PTSD, paralysis I have never experienced in 73 years, and ten years of catching up on repairs that should never have had to be done - now that my youth has left me!
It leaves one totally depleted, physically, psychologically, emotionally....
I'm looking forward to the mansion in the heavens where the Father created each of us to be in His delighted and beautiful presence forever! I PRAY that Brother repents and becomes the person he was created to be. Possible?
All things, even this hope, are possible with God!
I am in in awe of how clearly she explains this. Right down to the most minute detail. The destruction of self by being in a relationship with a narcissist is a whole different level of aloneness. Not only are you not in a convective relationship with them but your relationship is now of such an addictive situation that you have slowly eliminated everyone in your life and you've completely lost your sense of self. You are now completely dependent on the abuser for any connection and you're starved of any human interaction that the scraps they throw are now enough to confuse you into feeling full.
I was amazed too! She clearly knows what she is talking about!!!
Absolutely. He was the center of my universe back then.
these harmful situations do not only have to be male-female intimate relationships either.
I know im a women married to a fem narc
Yes, you begin to mourn for yourself, because of how lonely your life is, because you live a person with this personality.
1. Villainizing their victim for feeling hurt by their abuse.
2. Gaslighting and Minimizing
3. Silent Treatments
A narcissistic relationship is like an intimacy and closeness desert, peppered with blame, manipulation, coercion, and control...So true. This is precisely the description of my marriage.
Plus projection
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This is the same with close family relationships.
my childhood
Many of us have narcissistic spouses, families, and coworkers. We must learn to protect ourselves.
I once heard that the definition of “INTIMACY” is “INTO ME SEE”. Intimacy is dangerous to a narc because they are not any where interested in YOU seeing the REAL them.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for this!!! I LOVE this definition! IT IS SO SPOT ON!!!
Profound! ❤
Oooo. Excellent insight!
Yes, Teal Swan was great explaining Intimacy meaning 👉Into Me See!…
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Thank you so much! This makes so much sense now that I heard that that.
Narcissists make something that should be caring and beautiful like sex, discussing and gross.
Exactly!
Marital r*pe is a thing... they take what they want, when they want it- and not a second before they decide...😏
I thought it was just me ....thank goodness for comments
And shameful.
So true
When your heart is hungry, crumbs of affection can feel like a feast.
Such a true (and great) comment!
Gaslighting has to be number one.
Running a con man scenario on people that love you
Gaslighting is a criminal offence in the UK since 2015 ❤❤
Yes. The dishonesty about love can be totally devastating. We could be going along seemingly fine and then out of the blue he would disappear for several days or be with another woman.
I had a sibling try to gaslight me about my relationship with my mom after she passed away. Inexcusable behavior.
I am speechless to know after 20 years that I was not the cause but he was a hardcore narcissist who put me through emotional famine and physically almost impotent that you doubt your own gender and looks.Thank you Dr Ramani for addressing these issues.Left that narc long ago.It was extremely painful almost suicidal but the chapter is over.
I also feel that sometimes the narc turns healthy people also into narcs. And that not everyone comes out of narcissistic abuse unscathed. What I mean @unscathed is that yeah, we'll all suffer from the initial narcissistic abuse and it will take years to recover from, that is evident & there's evidence in this too. But, that some times even with all of that, that more times than not the abused also turn into narcissists themselves. 🤷
I feel like this happened to me. I was once a good girl that trusted too many carless people. My ex that I think is a narc, distroyed my heart, my trust completely in humanity, I think. He was the last straw on the camels back, thought he was my soulmate, but he literally treated me quite poorly at times. Just breaking this all down now that I've had a lot of time away from him, and how compassionate and forgiving and patient I was for him for him to not give those trates back..
He brought so much toxicity and I was trying so hard to battle it. It was like he brought the poison and I was bringing the medicine. It drained me so very much. I'm wanting to heal all the time letting go. Together for 4 years. He never wanted to protect. I'm so scared of sex because people are so scary. They will say anything to get it. Even year after year ..... I still cry about the pain. He tells me he just laughs and how he and his friends laugh at my insanity, I was never like this before....... Crazy how people process........ he was telling me all this time we'd have a family and a wedding.. ouchy. . This is hell I'm sure.
He started diving into hard drugs, I think he just wanted a drugged out sex doll that played music, he says I'm too powerful. I remember looking into his eyes and he looked like he wanted to destroy me... I loved him,. Gave him my body and soul(like an idiot)
I know I still have hope. Barley. These days life is a celebration and nothing really matters is my mentality. Sex is pretty much traumatizing for me because my ex lied so many times to get access to my body. telling me he would put a baby in me only while we bang never anniciating the family talk only while we bang for me to believe and let him in deeper.
I need to go to therapy, 8 months and I still cry.
Then when I slept with other people when we broke up and told him the truth when he asked he took his love away and looked at me like a whore....
Another reason sex is traumatizing.
So crazy. 8 months later and i am still so deep in healing.... I don't think I will ever heal from this one. Humanity is such a let down. Maybe it's wise to become a narcissist that way you always protect yourself and never care because caring is so painful and people suck.
In other words, it's only a mindgame. The game is rigged and you will only lose in this game. Don't fall into this trap because that is all this is, a trap, and only leads to your downfall. It's Lucy promising Charlie Brown, he's really gonna kick that football. Maybe. "One day".
Thank you for this. She made me feel like there was something wrong with me for not wanting to be intimate after all of the gaslighting, lying, cheating, emotional abuse, public shaming, and the rest of the book. It made me feel damaged for some time because I wanted to be a good partner, but inside I was recoiling and trying to protect myself from the emotionally damaging and draining patterns. I wanted to love her, and sadly I did keep trying for way too long, but being intimate was so difficult from all of the trauma. I would forgive her, and she'd do it again a day later. She was a covert narcissist and had painted me to be this terrible person to everyone, and after enough other people pushed in on me I started to believe it too. So glad to be free. I hope one day to feel what real intimacy is like.
curently living the same, especially the part being painted as a bad person to everyone. im sick of it
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@@santatra6663 they go out in public and do this to people they do not even know who do not want anything from them. they are a social menace.
Totally and completely relate man. In my sick and literally evil situation you summed it up just about perfectly and completely.
This is priceless, dear Dr. Ramani. My guy was future faking to the extent of promising me a meeting "some time soon when he can make time or even 10 years from now. !!!! Always disappearing and breadcrumbing just to keep me around, pulling me closer when i wanted out. The fact that i am writing this comment means I do not plan to be tricked anymore
I wish they had this level of education decades ago. We covered personality disorders in adult psych as well as abnormal psych, but we didn’t go deep. Thank you for covering all of this.
It’s really scary because they do not sit still and they need constant attention, yet regardless of your presence…you are never seen or heard. There’s no connecting. 😢
Yeah they ignore you like you don't matter, while being adored by the crowd around them and making sure they are seen and heard
Absolutely it should be taught in grade schools and high schools. Also a part of the college curriculum.
Ignoring includes interrupting constantly, not listening, although making false accusations?@@JoeyBvr
I'm reading up on personality disorders, and one of the "problems" with the literature is that it's all focussed on how to treat the narcissist. Which is fine of course, but there seems to be very little empirical or hard science work on how to recognise the signs of and to treat victims. I'm sure it's out there, but most of the stuff addressing victims seems to be the more popular psych stuff. That's all fine, but I want to know what the hard data is on this shit. And also how can psychiatry inform victims that they're being abused if the victim isn't the primary patient. My narcissistic wife saw probably half a dozen mental healthcare professionals in the last few years of our marriage. Granted it wasn't for long, but due to confidentiality even if they had suspected her of being an abusive narcissist they couldn't have told me. How many victims are left to figure it out for themselves because the professionals are sworn to silence? We need a way to address this stuff.
They cannot be still or content or quiet or calm..... ever. So draining.
When you have sex with a narcissist you feel used. You feel like an appliance. Their love is conditional, manipulative, score keeping. I'm not sure my narc was so much afraid of intimacy; I think he just didn't see value in it. He claimed he needed sex for medical reasons, and when I stopped sex because of abuse, neglect, feeling used, then he blamed all his medical issues on me. Sex with a narcissist means clean slate for their bad behavior. It's totally utilitarian, but they might put on a slight love act for it if they have to. When I stopped sex is when I saw the real monster come out. Then I could never go back; I could never trust the beast behind the mask ever again.
You cant unsee what you saw
Be careful in being physically intimate with a narcissist. They cheat and bring home unwanted STDs.
My narc husband continually called me a bitch and a cunt. I refused sex with him. I told him at least prostitutes get paid. I am divorced now, thankfully. I know he told everyone I was 'frigid'.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow u read my mind
I didn't stop it, he made itbreal good again, then took it away ! I cried in a book store as I was rejected daily after love bombing me again at 20 yrs. Why ? I feel again for that crap . But I'm the bad onemlmao
The silent treatment disguard then back to lovebombing was a sad pattern of my childhood. Walking on eggshells all the time. I hate my parents. Remembering that & broke that mold with my own children who are now healthy happy adults with their own happy healthy children . My grandbabies know how to express their emotions & have solid real boundaries. I love them to the moon & back. Thank you Dr. Ramani for these reminders that I am not the crazy one. ❤
Narcissistic abuse is worst than any abuse
This is spot on. My covert narcissist wife of near 46 years has broken me. She was a love bomber in relationships before me and with me when I got involved with her. I had no clue what I was in for. She's still highly sex focused but it's always been a mechanical experience. She's never allowed herself to be vulnerable and share honest feelings or be truly compassionate. I've reached a point where I do not desire sex.
The awkwardness of the sex with lack of emotion and using sex as a tool has destroyed my desire. The random irrational rages, gaslighting, projecting, bread crumbing, etc has taken it's toll.
I'm so sorry to hear this. Are you two still together? Life is too short and I wasted 6 years with my covert narc ex. There was no intimacy, towards the end it had been close to 6 months. It's like my body knew before my brain did.
The raging is something else. Perfect behavior in public total psychosis behind closed doors. Yikes. Hope you’re okay.
Because SHE is an evil spirit and the soul is hollowed out and taken over by demons. Demons can't love or feel human connection😢
@@farahleigh8332 Yes, we're still together. I value the relationship and maneuver around the toxicity. We have 3 well adjusted adult children who I'm very proud of so I stay "grey man" and remain non-reactive during rages and toxic moments.
My wife has a charming, outgoing public mask so the dark side is for my eyes only. I have a close friend going through the same thing in his long term marriage. We support each other and UA-cam channels like this one help educate what is the cause of the hostility in our relationships. Thank you for your question. I'm sad my wife is in victim mode and unfulfilled most days but I help nudge her back to center. Life is good. I hope all is well with you
Stay strong 💪
My elderly covert narc mom and I could have a great day out shopping or whatever but by the end of the day would come a shocking insult and cutdown out of nowhere. I would be in shock!!! My therapist said "You were getting too close".
That's really interesting. My "difficult" sister visited for a week last year. Whilst all seemed ok, there was an undercurrent of continuous and subtle fault finding. I bit my tongue as I also had 3 other family members visiting from overseas, but staying in a hotel..
On the last morning, I got up and made her breakfast. She sat at MY table, looked into my kitchen and said "I can't believe you did not wash up those dishes last night" - There were 2 plates and 2 glasses. "My husband would never allow that in my house".
What the heck? I said, "Right, all you have done since you have been here is criticise. If you continue, I will ask you to leave my home". She shouted "You need to be more organised" I left the room fuming. She said it a few more times. She got up, picked up her suitcase and with her daughter walked out. My husband went too as he was taking her to the train station. I went outside to say goodbye and she was so cold, I gave my 10 year old niece a hug and said to her, when you are a guest in someones home, you don't criticise it. She apologised as she has joined in with her mothers criticisms too.
She didn't ring me for a few weeks and then I rang her and apologisedf or one thing I had done, but said I am not apologising for anything else. That is the way that I choose to live my life. . She said "It was her sense of humour and we obviously don't have the same sense of humour" I believe that is a typical Narc reply.
I have put up with so much sh*t off of her over the years - it was great to have seen her more clearly. The only reason I stay in touch is because I have two lovely nieces and I am their only Aunt as my sister and I are the only siblings.
@@softsophisticate The "humour" is really a veiled stab at you. Thankfully she lives away from you. Sounds like covert narc traits to me. They're sneaky and shady and they love throwing digs at others. The hardest part for us to understand is that they do not think like us.
In my case from very early on I felt like I was "sleeping with the. enemy". It proved to be true
Yes!!😢
💯 So sad!
Most narcissists are porn addicts, so intimacy goes out the window after love bombing. I lived it. Now divorced, all of the pieces of the puzzle have come together. Thank you Dr. Ramani.
Thank you for describing these creatures in this context " the pieces of the puzzle " We walk through life no matter the quirks of the narcissists no matter how hurtful disturbing or any adjective out there. We wrestle with the lack of pieces to a puzzle. Why because they are a dark kaleidoscope of perpetuating anomaly 's Never ending the why is how damn consistent and how they manage to change it up with more of the same. Absolutely void of moral compass
Yes! It is incredible how all our stories are so similar, isn't it?
Exactly. My Ex husband was also a porn addict, but he said it was my fault because if we had more sex, he wouldn't need to watch porn . It's unbelievable what these narcizissts are saying to you. And they mean it, and if you have the discussion often enough, you think maybe he is right and I am the problem
They have a lot of addictions.
Alcohol and admiration@@rozwilcher
This is the best reason to get to know a person before having sex with them. Not because of prudism, but self preservation, and respect for yourself and body. The way that person reacts to your decision will speak volumes of their true intentions and inner self, who they actually are.
Wow! I literally just told a friend that I feel like I’m living with a roommate, and settling for crumbs. I’m learning so much from you, and want to say thank you for sharing this information. Finally I’m realizing the craziness, and unnecessary pain I’ve been going through, and finding the courage to change my life, and get my peace back.
Unbelievable how many of these comments I read and think 'I could have written this'...scary really 😢 Thanks Dr Ramani for your work and bringing us together so we feel less alone. Five years since I left and I am still learning about/recovering from what I went through....psychological warfare I call it.
Dr Ramani sure knocked this subject on the head. I so wish I’d known what narcissism looked like when I was young and hopeful.
Intimacy Avoidance. Breadcrumbing. Future Faking. Each one were profoundly cruel and hurtful. Plus, many other wretched ‘tricks’ they’ll never own up to.
Bread crumbing - when its your loaf of bread !!!!!!! Bizarre.
I'll take the beadcrumming future faking over the.dirty tricks used.never did i understand it and still dont butnever did i imaginesome who claims to love you could act in such a manner. I'm over it now but I have compassion for all stuck.
All of the above even children saw it
They in the end stepped in U was to damaged had break down
My narcissist husband told me after months of no sex that he felt that since we hadn't had sex for so long that he didn't feel comfortable having sex with me anymore. I remember how devastating that was to hear from my husband. But by then I was in such a narcissistic fog I was already numb. The emotional abuse was every bit as frightening as his physical abuse. Then I learned he had a new rx for Viagra and a secret life in another town. I feel fortunate to have gotten out when I did... and that was only due to the escalating physical abuse and letting my dr see the injuries and bruises.
Thank you for being here and doing this!!
It's hard to have sex when you see them as a child not a man. Most men want a mommy. Not pleasing to a woman. I have kids already thanks.
They use sex to control. If u like it they will withhold
Dr. Ramani - it is like you had a front row seat in my marriage. You have helped me make sense of what happened and why I walked away absolutely hating myself.
Trust me, I feel your pain. I think you can figure out why.
Mines too
I finally understand after 20. years & 2 beautiful children what was happening to me. It is so textbook. I used to say, "he didn't rush me all night"..."he hasn't lost his temper in one week". ... trauma bond is legit.
Great video, there is nothing like a perfect marriage or relationship, I learnt that in everything there is always a solution, 5 years ago I and my wife divorced because we were having some difficulties in our marriage but we are back together ,it was a really bad phase but we got through it
@Emilio Yepez its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is SHELLY RENEE WHITE.
Hey people - This chat right here is SPAM PROMOTING SKETCHY SPIRITUAL ADVISORS (many of whom promote spells and witch-craft) that are scattered across comments on UA-cam. It worries me that many of y'all are on a narcisssist education channel and can't spot users and abusers like these FAKE SPIRITUAL ADVISORS spamming comments. 🙁
This hits home so deep! The superficial performative intimacy is so 100% on point. By the time you start to trust your gut instincts and see it for what it is, it’s too late.
Please bring a court system to punish them. It is so much worst than the physical abuse. Those bruises to the soul are never going to be yielded.
So true and the bruises/scars are invisible so any reaction others see from us makes us look like the bad guy BUT being defensive or frustrated are signs of someone who has endured years of emotional and mental pain and exhaustion, all behind closed doors 😢
It truly is. I always say I would rather get punched in the face because screwing with someone's mind is so abusive. Those wounds heal but scares remain the same.
@@nickijames5122 if you are available to get away from the narc please do so. It is so much worth it. You will start seeing the world out of the fog. Please do this for your soul. I can't because my kids listen to the narc and I am a immigrant no where to go except the narc. So please run 🙏 away if you get a chance.
@@bird2428 You have a safety net in the Domestic Violence Shelter. Call your local police or look for them on line or in the phone book. They can and will help you. Ask other women for help. Someone one will know where and how to get you help. Many churches have domestic violence shelters, also.
We all can heal. Being a victim is a choice. If we don't learn, grow, forgive and overcome, then yes.
I wish all young women could know this to prevent much pain in relationships.
And young men too….
@@kirstenbromann6484yes! Relevant to both genders!
Happens to men as well.
When the narcissist is also a procrastinator, the future faking is particularly cruel.
This would be my narcissist
@@SR-rx4pk he or she is not "yours". Words and our framework matters.
Love, J
Yes..im going thru this..every hope n dream i thought we shared is.mine alone.. and he steals from me..hes done everything Dr R had spoken of
I dont like using the term just narcissist as these r NPDs not really narcissists..the later dont do whats been or is being done to us
@@JonasAnandaKristiansson Agree. Never refer to this monster as "yours" - he/she never was, never will be, and to claim it like that means you allow it to be a part of you long after they're gone.
I'm watching the begining part about intimacy, and this is so spot on its eerie. It's horrible to be in a relationship with a Narcissist.
Agreed! It makes you feel emotionally bombarded and violated. It's the most uncomfortable situation.
The most horrible thing My life right now😢
Yeah, covert narc of mine is super Nymph and goes as far as telling me to wake her up after she works a 12hr. night shift...
I would describe it as dancing without music. That’s what my marriage felt like. We were going through the motions and it looked like dancing, but it had none of the beauty and the joy that music would’ve brought to it.
That's a good explanation
Everyone needs to know all of this should be taught at school
I agree that some sort of mental health class should be taught to teach about this mental illness.
But now you're talking lay people diagnosing personality disorders, and how well would that go, say, someone who dislikes another, thus unfairly labels them? It seems better suited for a trained doctor to diagnose.
I'm dubious of how many narcissists the world now has since these youtube videos have become popular. It's like everyone is now a narcissist.
Dr Ramani may be well-known and respected, but here she is giving it away for free, or is she?
Her videos have to be quite profitable for her. There's just so much emphasis on narcissism, now, that one has to wonder more about it, and wonder why so many people are being called narcissistic.
I would say that I've experienced narcissistic abuse, and now I'm more interested in understanding why that is and how I can change it. I just can't accept it all - narcissism - as is and as something that defines our lives and keeps us there. I'm also becoming tired of reading and hearing about all the narcissistic people in this world. It's making me feel that something else, something more, is at play here.
Doesn't anyone else wonder why there's this ever-growing diagnosis with emphasis on narcissism?
I think this is one of the things behind obesity. I lived in a emotional famine from age 13 on. At the same time, I began gaining weight, filling my emotional emptiness with food, particularly sweets. I literally craved sweetness.
The sucrose gives you a fast energy boost and this is often perceived as feeling better.
Being abused, constantly anxious, and constantly on edge is draining. So the energy boost from sucrose would lead to feeling better.
And sweetness primordially reminds us of breast milk, being fed, and security that comes with it.
Is this helpful in understanding the need for sweet foods?
I hope you're able to recover 👍
@@TheKrispyfort thank you ❤
Same but I smoked instead
True!!
I relate to this alot
He would call me vile names and then expect me to service him. Then get mad that I wasnt enthusiastic. I was also told I was no good unless I did. It began to feel like assault. It was awful. It wasnt an ask either it was coercion. Do it or pay the price. It ruins it all. I was a piece of furniture that got sat on that's all.
I can totally relate 😢
This is so relatable. And when you finally leave they spread the most vile sexual rumors around. And if that’s not a sign of an evil heart I don’t know what is.
@@CJbrieflittlecandleyep. Stayed single for a long time after that:/ I avoid him like the plague
It is emotional assault
His raging would scare me to death and I had to give in, but he did end up getting a girlfriend
💯💯 💯 Yes, yes and yes.
Never is to late to learn to love yourself,it takes me 40 years of my life to understand that it wasn't my fault
It’s crazy how the closes to us hurt us the most.
Strangers have treated me better than my husband..
On a different note x I can listen to Dr. Ramani all day.
Thank you for all your videos and helping me understand why my 20 year marriage failed. I took my daughter, then 8, and we started over. At first it was very hard on her but after 3 months she told me how much she loved our new life. She said "we laugh more and have fun" out of the mouth of baby's. She is now 25. She visits him 2-3 times a year...her choice. She feels that same lack of connection. He doesn't really know her at all and has made no effort to try. I had really hoped he could step up and be a good dad for her. When she does see him, she initiates it. He lives 10 miles away and can't be bothered.
Like living in an "emotional famine." So true!
In Scotland it is a crime. My ex partner is in court in 2 months and has been charged with threatening and abusive behaviour towards me which caused me alarm. This is a section 38 of the criminal justice act. Maximum sentence is 5 years in prison.
I knew I loved Scotland!
Go Scotland!!!!
Im Scots wonder if i can charge him in Canada.
Wow, if only. I can't even get help from the sheriffs out in California to get rid of abusive squatters. Their rights take precedence over homeowners'. It's extremely painful what they are putting me through in my own home, and law enforcement is contributing to it by telling me I am allowed to do nothing, nada, not one thing to protect myself.
Wow 😮we need this stateside big time! Good for Scotland 🏴!!!
"Those crumbs are gobbled up and cherished", my gosh, I am almost moved to tears. It's incredible how much we will give in return for so little.
Well he took me back to court to try to steal my alimony this time he had a lawyer and the layer acted like him, they both lied in court. I represented myself and luckily with Gods grace I got to keep my alimony! I feel great Support In watching your videos about narcissistic abuse and I can’t believe the games that are played even four years after I have divorced him!! Thank you Ramani I have learned so much from you and it has saved my life!! ♥️♥️
Mine is using the legal/court system to punish me as well. He refuses to sign the bifurcation of marriage paperwork. He's being extremely difficult and petty. His Esq. is exactly like him as well.
4 times over 15 yrs attempt to end alimony( always with an atty, lying about assets). I represent myself.Hid assets- everything was in his name.
@@saffron_786 😔
Glad for you!!
Hi Kendra.. I’m going through this now. Representing myself.. can u help me?
Dr Ramani, I just discovered you - it’s as if my heart leaped out of my chest & began speaking. The power & validation that comes with hearing terminology that defines this type of person & abuse I’ve experienced is freeing. It’s like when you hear a song that you love & you just want to play it over & over again . “I’m not crazy, I’m not crazy, I’m not crazy” is the chorus. Pray for me as I plan for my freedom & try to find a way to escape my narcissist . 🙏
Prayers your way, dear!
You have mine, as well.
The sooner you do it, the sooner you will heal. Don't pain shop and stick around like I did for years and years! I will NEVER allow this to happen to me ever again. You learn so much the more you listen to these videos! I have a friend who is going through this now and she wants to have the last word. It will never happen nor does it matter....JUST GET OUT!!!
LOL..I am not crazy...😂
If it wasn't for you I would think I was going crazy. Thank you for all that you do!
Yes, if it wasn’t for these videos I would continue to believe I was going completely insane.
You are SO not crazy! Welcome to our community of brainy survivors.
I am certain that there must have been some good times, but over a 30 year marriage, I can barely remember anything but the manipulation, head games, humiliation..... I am so glad that Dr Ramini has helped me put all that into perspective. I realize that it wasn't my fault; that I got sucked into the pattern. Thanks, Dr!
I am in a marriage with a narcissist. I am suffering the abuse of this. Thank you from the bottom of my suffering heart. It's nice to understand that I am not crazy & I am not alone. Thank you Thank you thank you
Leave relationship now.
You are not alone. I will never be able to escape. I am a prisoner in my home of verbal, emotional and sadistic abuse. Especially when he puts chemicals in all my personal hygiene products to irritate my skin and my hair is falling out. I have reached out to people and I am ignored. I feel so alone.
Get out!
The black sweater is attractive.
You're not alone. I'm Trapped too. Thinking of you all.
Breadcrumbing was one of the most damaging things to ever happen to me. It felt so dehumanizing for someone you trusted to try and attach an emotional leash to you, only to ignore you for months or until you pulled away again. It worked for 6 months before I finally went scorched earth, and 3 years later they want back in. Absolutely not!
I’m starting to enjoy pulling away from my narc daughter and counting how long it takes for a love bomb text or phone call to try and lure me back for more punishment and manipulation. The good thing about narcissists-they’re predictable once you know their game; nor does her punishments or manipulations bother me. I’ll never ever let her know if anything bothers me. #heartless
Other day i spent my own money.on nails, and sunglasses
He was so fckd off..literally seething 😂
@@Lena-so2lq Let him seeth.
I’m on to my narc daughter and can almost write the script of what’s coming next. She bought a new house and sent us a photo telling the square footage, number of baths and bedrooms but no address. We said a simple congratulations because she’s been treating her parents like crap using our only grandchild as collateral. And then came the love bomb phone call to both of us with an “I love you” at the end. She had to talk about that fabulous house. We still don’t know the address or if we’ll ever be invited over.
I know. All of that back and fourth/push and pull is horrible. It's very damaging.
Just like Alcoholics Anonymous, we should form NARCISSTST SURVIVOR GROUPS. NSA, Narcissist Survivors Anonymous.
👍🏼
"Grant to us the serenity of mind to accept that which cannot be changed." They're never going to change.
@@yukio_saito Never is a big statement. Very rarely is more accurate.
Great idea Jozette👍
@@evera_ that was kinda invalidating. Most of us have clung on to hope with a narc to long.
This was a video that I felt actual flashbacks and pain watching because it hit home. It took me 3 or 4 times stopping and starting it just to get through it… I know Dr. Ramani is right… but I hit a wall a few times taking in the truth of this one. I’ll listen again … it’s just like she knows what went on under my married roof. I’m grateful for her knowledge and wisdom.
Same. ❤
I had to stop it a few times, too, & go back & re-watch. He *almost* convinced me that it was me. Again. Dr. Ramani is the best--her videos have literally saved my life on more than one occasion. I will survive this, despite him. Never give up. Never give in.
This is one of the most insightful videos I have ever viewed. It made me feel ill to my stomach because it exactly and definitively defined my husband and why I hoped so much that things would improve, which of course they did not!
Thank you so much for your expertise and for educating me and validating my own feelings…
She is so spot on. She is what we need to help us realise what we are going through.
Same. It was difficult for me too.
Omg spot on 100% Dr. Ramani. Thank you for all your amazing videos. These monsters cannot ever be treated - run and never ever look back! There is nothing but pain especially for the Empath. They never change and they’ll try to tell you they will and they may for a short period of time, but they ALWAYS go back to the same cycle - love bomb, devalue, discard, REPEAT- they always repeat the sick abusive cycle! Do yourself a favor and get out no matter what you must leave behind. At least you’ll have your own self worth!
Being with my ex narc for the past 8 yrs. made me observe this very pattern. I think they wanted to feel very important in a way that is disturbing. Instead of building trust with their intimate partners, they destroy the trust that they built with you (in that case lying when they tried to put you in their pedestal). Once they have a committed partner, they can’t stand being loved authentically by one person. Instead they go on and prey on other women that is susceptible to their love bombing. My ex narc was a compulsive pursuer in a relationship. He would go back and forth to the women he were involved before or try to meet women in complicated situation so that going public isn’t an option while having you as their main supply. In the end they destroy the very person that loved them. They are like toddlers testing your love for them. Showing and telling them you love them isn’t enough, they will cheat on your face to make you feel inadequate even if you are more than they deserve. They want to test your love for them so they keep hurting you and when you have enough of their abuse, you leave. Then they tell you, ‘you never loved me because you abandon me’. Well in fact it’s their actions and narcissistic behavior that made you leave or in other cases they discard you and will give silly reasons of the discard. Mine would use, ‘she’s crazy’, ‘she’s a nega-star’, ‘she insults me’, ‘she cheated on me’ et al. So with this pattern of infidelities and emotional abuse (who knows what else) it’s better to walk away. I did walk away and is now rebuilding my life with our daughter. We are struggling financially because I’m not earning enough to provide for my daughter but now we get to laugh and bring with us sunshine every day. No lies, no abuse and no fake love. We only live once, forgive yourself and move forward but never forget the lesson that narc abuse taught you. That is to respect yourself to walk away from what’s hurting and destroying you. That you deserve a life of solitude, happiness and love. Hugs*** :) Additionally I hired a private detective Metaspyhub@gmail. com. Once I knew what the narc was up to, it got easier to get over that lying, cheating, sack of doo doo, loser. I didn’t need closure from the narc, I paid for it. Best money I EVER spent!
You made me feel hopeful. I do applaud you.
Wise
@ cheryl Riley
Best survivor story ever & every good wishes for both🎉
That's a fake email. This person is trying to scam us. Don't contact that fake "detective" people!
🎀I was all for your story until you mentioned,”Solitude” and showed the email address lol. Most people in controlling narcissistic relationships, want connection with others. Not solitude and isolation. Also what’s the point in providing an e-mail address? Scam?🎀
I’m starting this video for the third time in a row! I’m so relieved to hear it that I just need to hear it again and again.😮 I have never been so confused about myself before. The last 14 years have been shrouded in fog. Exhaustion from the constant confusion was a normal part of my life and 8 months later of no contact I’m still lacking in energy and drive. I’m struggling to show myself grace.
Mine relationship has ended with narc a week before only, I am struggling with either going back to her or just hold on to myself as I am 100 ,% sure that she is one narc
I'm so confused
Talk to someone that can help you. There's all kinds of places online even and I'm sure the one who's speaking in this video can give you information how to start your life over and find peace with people who are loving and kind and normal and get away from this madness. You don't have to stay with a toxic person. You don't you don't. You don't
I remember almost crying tryin to tell my mum it's her job to actually be a mom 😢
I cried several times through this video because I was so blind to see that my ex partner is a complete narcissist.... I couldn't comprehend why they did what they did and lack of what they did... thank you for this video, it really put my last relationship into perspective. That person is STILL trying to worm into my life and I can't understand why, they don't even see me.....
I divorced on 2008 from an narc. I was verbally abused, controlled every aspect of my life like money, friends etc. He made my life a living hell. For the people outside he was the life of the party but with me he was a monster. I was never enough, everything i did was a mistake and he always acted and blamed me for anything. I would never be enough for this person. In 2020 i lost my dad and the shock for me was huge. Now i find myself dealing with post traumatic stress and i just started therapy cause i never really got over this abuse and after my dads death everything is triggered and i can no longer control my emotions.
I hear ya. I'm with a man that's not 100% narcistic but definately has trades. He doesn't, for instance control the money or my social contacts. I do. But he can use emotional blackmail a lot.
When my dad died of Parkinsons disease, everything got unravelled and I had to seek therapy also.
My father was my rock, in life. My mom had already passed when I was 34. My boyfriend could not be trusted and turned out to be traumatized in his youth with an alcoholic dad and 12 (!) siblings. Jeez it's beginning to sound boring. Are there actually people who had a nice childhood, like myself?
Dear eve... don't give up you are loved and you have many sisters ( and brothers ) who have come through and are reading your comment and praying for your complete healing ! Love you eve ,take care of yourself ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I am praying for your healing. Blessings! Keep strong, because after all this, you have proven your strength! Wounded, yes, but mighty!
Narcissism should be added to the criminal code.
Or maybe demonic possessions that need exorcisms
110% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It IS criminal !!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone- I challenge ANYONE to prove that statement wrong!
It already “is”; HOWEVER it’s usually entirely backwards!!! …Meaning that actual narcissists etc are using various compromised social power structures to accuse normal folks of being narcissistic or far worse! Sorry to mention this highly unpleasing reality…
That's going to be a long fight because so many of the people who write, administrate, and adjudicate the code are themselves narcissists
True
Dr. Ramani, as a fellow clinical psychologist, I find your elucidation on 'breadcrumbing' and 'future faking' in narcissistic relationships both enlightening and disconcertingly accurate. The distinction you've drawn between the fleeting, manipulative 'crumbs' offered by narcissists and the genuine gestures of affection necessary for true intimacy is as stark as it is essential. Your insights remind us of the crucial importance of discerning authentic emotional connection from manipulative illusion. For those ensnared in such toxic dynamics, understanding these concepts could well be their first step towards liberation. Thank you for your wonderful content 🙂
You validated me and let me know that I did nothing wrong and the narcissistic relationship I was in for 20 years I don't know that I'll ever fully heal from this relationship
It takes time to heal.