DCS WORLD | 10 simple rules for multiplayer | Online Etiquette
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- 10 simple rules to follow to make your online experience better.
Please feel free to comment, like and subscribe. More videos coming soon. Link to SRS: github.com/ciribob/DCS-Simple... - Trust me, it's awesome. - Ігри
My first DCS MP experience - bombed by a friendly while taking off on the carrier
Not a great one. Feel free to join us at Tactical DCS. That doesn’t happen there, any nine sense like that is dealt with swiftly.
never happened to me. i call that bs
@@mikkihintikka7273 Just cause it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it's bs
@@Victor-vc9br i mean that player quality is pretty good on most servers. But i have seen bad flying recently so that light be true
@@mikkihintikka7273 yea the community is good and accepting usually but yeah its not really bs as he said it lol there is dudes like me who shoot at enemies with fox 3s and lose the lock 1 second after shooting the missile and hitting friendlies but true the player quality is p good
sooo.. iff? on or off?
Were you not paying attention?! Never turn that shit on. It’ll get you killed
Raygun! :p
I always fly off and fire on EVERYTHING. haha
DCS really needs to integrate something like SRS to the game itself instead. It's a bit much for folks to expect a third party optional install with a whole 'nother layer of bindings to be necessary.
Ask and you shall receive. Too bad nobody has used it yet.
my antivirus blocked the SRS search right off the bat, lol
Dcs has built in radio voice chat now.
That not many servers use because it took them too long to do and everyone is already used to SRS
@@TacticalPascale All the new players are trying to use the built in voip and all the elders are in SRS....it's not helping the multiplayer side of the game. And i tend to agree with Squirrel....no 3rd party software just to chat in a game that now HAS voice chat. A LOT of ppl are cautious of 3rd party programs due to hackers/viruses, etc.
Great video! Really well put together and edited.
While it isn't etiquette per se, I think it should also be said that players shouldn't fire fox-3s into a furbal. Most of the team kills I see are from situations where someone is pumping an AMRAAM or Aim-54 into a fight with a friendly and bandit in close proximity. I don't think there is malice behind it, just a lack of understanding the disadvantages of using those weapon types in that situation. Perhaps an idea for a later video!
Agreed. You should never fire an AIM-54 into an area where friendlies are within 5-10miles of the target, especially if you are firing it from 40+ miles away. When it goes pitbull, who the hell knows if it'll stay on target. I know I get heartburn every time I fire a Phoenix on GaW and then see a friendly fly towards the enemy formation.
Thank you for your reply. It is a great point and a topic that I will be covering in a future video. I am an ex RAF Fighter Control instructor (GCI) and I will be talking about this and many other things in future videos. Thank you again for taking the time to comment.
Tactical Pascale awesome I look forward to it. Keep up the great work!
Good video concept Pascale, subbed. More suggested rules from someone who's been in multiplayer since the LOMAC days more than a decade ago.
1. Clear the runway as soon as you can, don't loiter on the runway or refuel there. On the carriers, don't loiter on the catapults.
2. Keep the taxiways clear. If you must rearm there then move completely to the side and make yourself small (fold or sweep wings for jets that can do that) in narrow taxiways.
3. It's not about 'you'. Nobody wants to hear what you can do, if you want to be noticed then show your skills without comment.
4. If everyone on a server quietly doing air-to-ground and you want to do air-to-air don't come and slaughter defenceless ground pounders and helos. Instead go and find a server with air-to-air opponents. Otherwise in order to satisfy your lame ego you ruin the flying time of others.
5. Many people have busy lives and limited flying time, don't ruin other people's experience as they may have been waiting all month for an hour to fly.
6. Learn to land. Seriously. It's not that hard. Start 1000 feet AGL and get to approach speech.
7. Read the mission brief. There is no good pilot who doesn't know at least the concept of the mission. That'll stop you killing friendly air defences.
8. When in voice comms don't interrupt folks talking. Listen and think about what you say - add something meaningful or ask questions.
9. If admin bans you go away and reflect why they did that. We don't ban unless your behaviour is egregious.
10. Ask for help. People are happy to teach you tactics or help with the next step of a procedure.
11. Read the manuals or watch online tutorials. There is zero excuse for not learning about a procedure you need. While people will help to aid your memory few have time to teach you from scratch.
12. Follow the rules of the server. If it says no taxiway takeoffs then don't do them. Land on the left of the runway if that is the rule. Unless you love being banned.
13. Manage your fuel. If you think you are elite because you ran around on afterburner but could not make it back to base then you look like a chump, because you are. Never ever run out of fuel. Good pilots bring their platforms back every time they are undamaged. If you run out of fuel you are not a good pilot.
14. If someone kills you in fair fight it is good manners to complement them with "gk" (good kill) or S! (salute!). If they thought you fought well then they may respond with "gf" (good fight). Acknowleging the work and skill they brought to bear in the fight builds up your own reputation as a decent person who can recognize skill in others.
15. Don't steal kills. If someone else is engaging a target you can support by tracking the target and preparing to engage if your coalition mate cannot complete the kill. Do not fire and try steal the kill they worked to manuever the enemy into.
16. If you want to do anything that can affect another player you can - just ask for their consent first. Keep cool if they say "no", they may have reasons you don't yet know and they cannot explain right now.
17. Don't take stuff so personally. Your ego is a tool that you need to manage as much as your energy state. Dial your ego up when you need aggression and dial it down to humility the rest of the time.
18. Practice, practice, practice. There is no shortcut to getting good. You must spent time and focussed concentration to improve.
19. Realise people don't care. This is good is that they quickly forget your mistakes. You care about you, they care about themselves - don't expect them to care about you.
20. "I'm ok, you're ok" - other people are ok and you don't need to assert you are better by putting them down. You are ok and you don't need to put yourself down either. Then we can all get along.
21. You always have something more to learn or improve on - air combat is like golf, you can always improve your game. Understand that no matter how well you have done there is someone somewhere that is better at that than you. So keep improving.
Number One for the Aerobatics servers. Don't form up on someone without telling them. Don't know how many times I've had a mid-air because someone joined up in an EXTREMELY tight formation, I didn't see them, and I rolled 90 and pulled hard. The pilot you're shadowing may be doing airwork to learn the plane better. Remember, sims are the only place where it's not a bad idea to have a drink and fly.
"Don't Be a Chopper" *Triggered* I Identify as a KA-50!
Then you’ll love the mission we’re running on Friday. Video up tomorrow
Thank you for the excellent video! Well said and I agree on every single point!
Thank you very much for your input.
Great explanation and very simple to comply and understand, unfortunately their are still people that have issues with compliance. Good video
Thank you for your prior service and thank you for some of the most informative videos about DCS!
You are most welcome sir.
3:58 and it's usually an f18 as well. Something about that jet just attracts those pilots.
F18 is just the most common plane, most people buy only 1 module, so they go for one that can do most of the things.
jealous much?? lol
@@jahnkaplank8626 You're just proving his point lol
I am a shitty F18 pilot and I dont approve of Jahn Kaplank's comment. :)
Been thinking about trying dcs, last game like this I played was in the 90's, wow things have changed lmao
Good work man. I will never forget the IFF.
Look forward to the radio bollocks video, I’ll give multiplayer a shot after that.
Multiplayer is excellent.
IFF rules should also include turning on IFF lol, I can't tell you how many times I've seen friendly fire happen online due to someone who's kinda new forgetting to turn on IFF
I like when I get team killed and people are like like "next time turn on your D/L" and I'm like "huh? this plane doesn't have a D/L, or IFF for that matter"
i flew a long time not even knowing about it
These really are ten essential rules for DCS multiplayer etiquette.
I agree that SRS is essential, it transforms the game to a whole new level. On a semi-serious server like Hoggits, you'll have players playing GCI, and usually you'll also have Overlordbot as a backup as well. Overlord's tripwire warnings have saved me a few times. The guys on Hoggits are chill, can have a bit of a laugh and a joke around when things aren't happening.
I think one rule you missed is to not fire Fox-3 active radar missiles into a furball because of the risks of the missile locking a friendly. It's just too risky.
hey all...after more than 14k hours on fsx / vatsim I have made the deiscion to start something new. So I made my desicion to switch over to DSC. So my question is, at dep /arrival procedure is it kinda vatsim? thank you
Nice video. Looking forward to more.
Required reading for Aerobatics Online
*** Rule X - Don't try to hurry the guy in front of you when you Taxi. :)
*** Rule X1 - Don't interfere with a group trying to practice formation flying, ask if you can join first.
*** Rule X2 - Do your trick flying away from the airport traffic . Don't be that guy who takes out a whole row of planes on the taxi way when you do a low level stunt pass.
I agree wholeheartedly with all of them.
Hahah low passes at Kobuleti is what we live for!!!!!!!!!!
I feel like X2 doesn't apply to the aerobatic server but for god's sake never use smoke on an airfield
@@keatonhare7691 Roger That !
i love this sim and fly the a-10c all the time. i have always wanted to go online it sounds amazing, i have gotten so far as too scan the channels, just got to do it and get over this stupid shyness.
IFF- a rule so important that he included it 2 extra times because he couldn’t think of anymore ideas
Oh there are plenty, but new players shooting down teammates because they don’t know how to operate IFF is a problem on multiplayer. Not only do they cock up the other person but they risk a server ban etc
I have a question. Is it worth even using IFF?
Lmao, seeing you reiterate not clogging up the runway really make me realize how impressive the Berlin airlift was
I swear if I find you in front of me in a multiplayer session, I am going to press and hold the trigger until empty then check the IFF... XD
You won’t find me in front of you, I am very very sneaky.
Don't forget to say "sorry"
Never heard of SRS we always use Discord audio chat. What’s the advantage?
I clicked Multi for the first time in DCS and it said "loading" for about ten minutes. I got bored and went and flew a SP Huey mission instead.
So I haven't gotten onto DCS multi-player yet. What is SRS?
Every time I hit F10 my simulator gets a little bit more laggy. I just can't do F10. It's the only problem I have with DCS on my machine.
Good to know thanks for all of this
What is SRS? I'm familiar with voice chats through team speak back in the day and use Discord for chat when playing with my friends for games I play now. Been looking to get into DCS.
I can't use my mic on my pc because it has two ports (one for mic and one for headphones, I've tried buying a splitter, using the IO ports, ect) so should I play MP without communicating? (I can still hear audio, but I cannot speak)
Yes, as long as you check F-10 and you can always type a quick chat message too
One thing to add... You don't have to use the ingame-voice chat, there are plugins for things like Team Speak that can be used as well, or, you can use Discord and exercise radio discipline. Whatever you decide to do, use some form of voice coms, it will go over much smoother with people than trying to read a text message while in ACM
Yes I know, SRS being the most common one which I have done full installation videos on. Our group normally separates people into flights of 4 on discord and liaises with others on SRS
Hey Tac! Loved the video and your channel im really learning a lot. I’m new to DCS as of a week and a half ago. Is there any discords you could recommend for learning/training for new players wanting to absorb the most knowledge possible. I’m finding that the more I learn during the day from reading and studying videos the more fun I have when I apply it that night when I’m home. Thanks for your time and effort on the channel!
HTTPS://discord.gg/tacticaldcs they are a helpful bunch. Tell them I said hello.
What is IFF?
… kidding. Great video, thanks. I still am not brave enough to jump into MP, but I’m gonna make the jump soon, looks like so much fun.
Identify friend or foe, a piece of equipment that helps you identify friendly aircraft
Right this should be a no brainer, Im sure Ill fit right in here in DCS world :)
Rule 1: DON'T BE A CHOPPER
Oh no :(
Thanks for the video Sir. Hopefully you can make a video on graphics Settings please :}
What would you like to know about the settings?
Doesn’t the game have in game radio frequency’s to voice chat to announce intentions?
It does, but it’s not great and pretty much everyone online uses SRS
I think that you forgot to mention IFF there laddie
I was using iff in my fav server and i accidently shot down a friendly i got jicked with 74.06 penalty points is that a lot and will be able to join again?
I don’t know, depends on the server rules
Sorry, what was that bit about IFF again?
The f-5e doesn’t have iff as I have understood...is there a tactic to do it without? I saw someone use the f-10 map to see if the plane he has picked up is on the map..if not it’s an enemy...is that a legit method?
If you are flying in an F5 without IFF you need to be able to communicate on the radio to call "buddy Spike" when you're locked up by a friendly. Regarding A2A engagements, you will be visual with your target to use your sidewinders, therefore eliminating the need for IFF as you can visually identify the target.
Depends on the server
What do i do if I want to fly in DCS without reading a whole aircraft manual for weeks?
Watch tutorials. There's no way to get around the learing though
Thank you!
I was all lined up on the runway powering up to take of on mp then some guy farther down the runway hoped on the run way to take off as I was moving, my callsign in game is drifter so I drifted around him and was able to take off, definitely look both ways or use f10
New to your channel and just starting to get involved in multiplayer, thanks to a computer upgrade. Great advice. I have SRS installed - can't seem to get voice coms if anyone can help[ much appreciated. Again good channel I will be a regular.
Are you connecting to the server’s SRS IP?
does huey have iff ?
Well done mate
Soooo about the stone age... How many floppies do I need to get SRS on my PC??
3x5 or 5x7? 🤪
Aerobatics Online and GS Open Conflict players: "Im gonna pretend I didn't see that"
Hey everyone! I just started DCS training on the A-10C and I’m just starting to stick my landings better and better. Playing keyboard & mouse with TRACK IR, but what I DONT have is a wing-man or anyone to show me the ropes online. Would anyone be willing to add me to their Discord server for friendly multiplayer? I am curious how you actually communicate between planes. Thank you all. Stay safe!
What's IFF? I avoid shooting friendlies by bugging them and then asking AWACS to declare. Same thing?
So, your radar symbology for friendlies is different. They will also appear friendly on data links if it’s selected by them. Of course, AWACS can declare too
@@TacticalPascale Thanks!
Is it possible to be a navigator and fly with expert pilots? I am newbie it s pretty hard for me, thx
Yes, join the Tactical Pascale discord. There are lots of us there who are willing to help.
We live at the same city COOL :)
Got a question about IFF: Does the IFF system (Say, in the hornet for example), rely on the other player also turning their IFF on? Or does it just know?
At the moment Iff is really simplyfied, but in the future the other guy will have to turn it on for it to work.
Also the iff can't confirm that a target is an enemy, it only listens for the correct response, but if the response is incorrect, it could be a friendly with a defect / switched off transponder, a neutral aircraft or an aircraft that has no transponder.
I am a newb and you give tips like use F10 and install SRS without even saying what those things do. So you supposedly want to communicate with people not doing these things but give information in a way that only people likely doing it already will even understand. (ofc I looked it up quickly and figured out, but the video would be a little bit better structured without implying the viewer having all this knowledge already)
That’s a very good point and I will make sure to explain better in my next video. Thanks for the comment.
Doubt not many people know the map key, but yeah, saying the SimpleRadio program makes more sense in tutorials...
The SRS tutorial video is up
Love your accent, is that that classic east london cockney ;-))))))
Edit: wrote dialect first instead of accent
After rule #1 I was wondering "why is nobody allowed to play helicopters!?"
🤣🤣
Can you be too good at DCS? I have had people get upset with me because I take out too many targets. Is this right? I know another player who has the B-1 mod that can carry 30 GBU bombs and can take out a whole base in one pass and it pisses people off. I normally can take out 8- 10 targets in one pass in my harrier. Is this wrong?
No, it’s effective.
Sooo..... You're saying..... IFF Is optional?
I'm a bit of a noob and found a lot of friendlies I can't identify. I assumed I wasn't using my radar properly... do a lot of people forget to turn IFF on?
I have to call bogey and hope they have srs
What were you flying? If in doubt, don’t shoot, get close and visually identify.
@@TacticalPascale the F18.
@@maverickmace9100 Should be fairly easy to see friendlies. I assume you had turned on your data link.
Yes a lot of people forget to turn it on.
thx u so much
:)
Agree!! Wilco ! ;)
👌👍👏
it would be nice if you also included something about IFF
#11 Watch this again, again, and again. #IFF #IFF #IFF #IFF #IFF #IFF #IFF #IFF #IFF #IFF #sorry Thank you for this as Ive never MP yet. I know what to do now. Cheers!!!
So mostly what I learned was "Don't be that guy"
Update to the SRS one -- there is now the possibility that the server uses Voice Chat instead, but it doesn't sound as cool as SRS yet
Awesome video
Thank you
I want to play DCS, how much will it cost to put together a rig powerful enough to from scratch please??
Depends on what you get. I7, 16-32gb ram, 1080 card I’d say for a minimum
@@TacticalPascale thanks.
32 preferably , would £1500 gbp, get me there?
@@TacticalPascale will Ryzen 5 3600, GTX 1660 super 16 GB ram enough for 1080P medium or low graphics on multi.
Yes. But the RAM might need an upgrade for heavier missions.
@@TacticalPascale If the heavier missions with medium graphics how many fps Thx for your help😃
Don't know if he mentioned but use IFF please
If IFF isn't being clear -- and in the F/A-18C that's generally the case -- call AWACS and ask for DECLAIR if you are locked on a target. It works wonders.
Declare: you don’t need to be locked, just to have contact on it.
@@TacticalPascale yes, you have to be tracking it.
You can declare on a link track too.
@@TacticalPascale you mean on the SA page?
Yes, ask for the declare on its bullseye position.
I'm totally that guy! I left craters all over the field! I crossed in front of someone as they were taking off, what a laugh!
Hahaha never played dcs before but gonna install it just to crash on the runway
Will you be making a video of how to do this SRS thing? I have always used discord to talk with mates in all games.
Yes, filming tonight. Hopefully up tomorrow.
man, you forgot to mention the IFF 😁😁
“Stohp it!” 😂
Say sorry for tks in chat not srs. If they're dead they won't hear srs until they respawn and get radios back up
Don't be that guy!! haha
IFF is still not working in Harrier remember that!
Is number 1 a Ace Combat reference?
Never played it
@@TacticalPascale Oh, there is a guy named chopper that talks alot in the fifth game, tought it might have been something to do with that, but nevermind. Gread video mate! I will be sure to IFF when I get my hands on a DCS game haha Chears!
Use IFF!
Me: laughs in warbirds
If you can see your target…..you don’t need IFF 🤣
fully expected rule 10 to be iff
Yu forgot to explain or leave a link to how to use IFF.
Check out my other videos, more stuff there. Thanks for watching.
rule number 1, don't take off from taxi, even if you can
It takes a simulation like this to NOT have to deal with your typical 12 year old Minecraft player...
Ok, what does SRS stand for?
Simple Radio Standalone
@@TacticalPascale thanks! Someday I will hop on.
I couldn't understand a feckin' word of it but thanks mate.
Nae bother
I remember my first multiplayer game in the f/a18, i fired a AGM SLAM 84E at a group of 10 friendly paratroopers... I was an idiot
Hey, troopers fault, they didn't turn on that helmet mounted IFF.
*20 people on the same radio freq*
me: radio check
* *crickets* *
Maybe your radio was broken 😁
@@TacticalPascale nah it worked after with more people I just got ignored :(
I'm still nervous of talking on SRS. Artillery signaller for 12 years and I feel like a 16 year old again and worry about cocking it up, but I dont think anyone will jesus me on 2 barrels in my coveralls and kidney dig me anymore lol.
You’ll have no worries at all. Get stuck in, never as hard as it seems.
@@TacticalPascale cheers. I'm just being a stupit. Us Scots are better speakers anyway. 😉
IFF could also mean I Fire First :D
Instructions unclear. Should I use IFF?
I have to admit, gotta love when you're getting spiked, fire at the plane that is spiking you only to find out that you just shot a friendly because he couldn't care to turn on his IFF and goes blasting that radar at people instead and proceeds to get pissy and blame you when he gets shot.
We have voice chst in the game now and in a few months is going to be better the srs anyway.Also study sim lol you do realize iff is simplified(exept jf17)
Of course I realise IFF is simplified, as are a lot of the systems, I’ve been using it for years irl.
We’ll have to wait for the in game voice, for now SRS is our best option to simulate radio.
@@TacticalPascale my point is that dcs is not at study level
God, I still see people do all of that wrong... Last week, in a single sessions, I had 3 eventful landings, one with a guy pulling up on the runway when I was 10 seconds for touchdown, one when a guy just took off from the taxiway and steered hard above the runway while I was on approach, and one with a guy who decided landing right behind me was a good idea, crashing and taking my wing with him.
And in that same session, I had a friendly shoot an aim7 at me cause apparently using IFF in the F16 was too hard for him, and later on, while coming back after taking damage, I called I was 20kts out from the base, and my bearing, saying I was damaged and needed to land fast on both SRS and chat, only to be locked by an F18, I called the buddyspike, checked on the F10 map, identified the guy, called out his name and telling him he was locking me up, and he still shot...
Sounds like you’re in the wrong servers full of less than helpful people.
@@TacticalPascale usually everything goes. But that one night...
Rien à ajouter.......tout est dit.
Chopper, come on surely you mean don't be a dobber.
I just started into multiplayer around a month now, have srs and listen into radio chat but by nature I'm quite reserved and don't really know how to "speak" to people I don't know. Finally used it for the first time last night, kept it to minimum.
F10 and zoom in/out are bound to hotas cause why not.
Ok so I am new to DCS what is SRS?
Check out my other videos it explains it all and how you can install it.
Simple Radio ... uses ingame frequencies from the radios as 'Teamspeak channels' in a way, so you can properly use the ingame radios! Sorta 'encrypted' so red only hears red, and blue only blue etc!
Encryption depends on the SRS server configuration
The only thing I'm sad in DCS is that you Need to use F10. This is a simulator, people shouldn't be able to see instant location. But more importantly, if all rules you gave were followed, you wouldn't need to use F10 because people would communicate.
Coming from BMS this is the hardest for me because lot of people were more coordinated compared with DCS. But we all need to adapt so... F10
If you fly in our missions we use ATC and GCI to hep deconflict at the airfield and in the Combat area.
@@TacticalPascale Interesting ! And people all fly with comms ? If yes, how can I join your missions ?
Yes everyone uses SRS. Join our discord
@@TacticalPascale I will 👍 !
#11 - IFF!!