Can You Beat Pokemon Without EVER Seeing A Wild Pokemon?
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2023
- In the video, I'll be attempting to complete a full game of Pokemon while not encountering any wild Pokemon. If I see a single wild Pokemon, I will restart the run from the beginning. Is this even possible? Can I beat this Hardcore challenge? Watch the video to find out!
This is not a Nuzlocke, as you will see. My only goal was to beat the game without seeing any wild Pokemon.
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I say this challenge was successful. At the end it didn't say "A wild Zekrom appeared" but it says "Zekrom appeared" so it isn't a wild pokemon
I would also like to add to this with the fact that when you get a fossil Pokémon it is basically the same thing, you created the Pokémon from an item, and formally put it into a Pokémon for you to own it, so technically Zekrom is just a legendary fossil Pokémon you get to chose what ball it goes into
Agreed. Catching a pokemon does not mean it was necessarily a wild battle. In the gamecube games you could catch pokemon in trainer battles. 'Wild Pokemon' just means 'random encounters', and this encounter was not random.
I say it's unsuccesfull, because he clearly wrote in the tittle "not SEEING a wild pokemon". He clearly saw the wild pokemon the professor was catching, because it appeared on the screen ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
(But if we don't include that, Zecrom is not wild, so you won)
Why no plume fossil?
Just fyi, they started making this distinction starting in G5 for certain special encounters.
Ryan put a Starly in the thumbnail because he never had the chance to learn which wild Pokémon live in Unova.
Perfect comment
Yes
gen 5 and its pokemon are too trash to be put in a thumbnail, it's a disgrace and a mistake of the franchise.
@@ejokurirulezz bro you’re literally talking about the best generation rn
@@ejokurirulezzyou’re thinking of bdsp
If you say zeekrom one more time I'm gonna lose it.
This is the comment i was looking for
Same I just left a comment mentioning that lmao
Ko-fagrigus, Zebstreeka
Yeah I was like “oof, sorry buddy gotta dislike your video now”
Tojepi
That shiny Minccino was a sign of good things to come
or a sign of mockery from the professor herself saying, why do you torture yourself like this
No
The fact that the game specifically didn't use the word "wild" when Zekrom appeared is a good enough argument for me. You did indeed complete the game without meeting a wild Pokémon. Congratulations!
Keep in mind that canonically Zekrom is TRAINED, both Zekrom and Reshiram had previous trainers.
@@autistic_potato1037
Yep, very good point. All the more reason this challenge was a success!
He beat it without *catching* a wild Pokémon, but failed to beat it without *seeing* a wild Pokémon, his actual goal. He saw the wild Pokémon the professor caught at the beginning.
@@palladianaltruist8047that doesn't count tho, since that's mandatory
@@locksquid749so..so is zekrom???
“Choosing the proper starting is make or break for this run”
10 seconds later: “But basically, HMs aren’t necessary, so all of the starters are viable. Pick your favorite.”
Zekrom is a legendary version of an egg/gift.
The orb is the egg/pokeball.
It's not wild, it's a trade.
It's a fossil
@@djt08031996 That's more accurate. I think it's basically a fossil that doesn't need a machine to be restored.
Restarting the ENTIRE run? You're a madman. And I can appreciate that.
Well there's a reason he takes such high risks, it's because he has a fool proof plan.
Nah it's kinda dumb. Just reset
I literally did a double take. Wild.
Was half expecting a Pokémon coliseum joke at the beginning as even if you tried there are no wild Pokémon to encounter in that game
same
THANK YOU I wanted to go there so badly when this popped up in my recs xD
During the majority of the video, I was wondering if the Zekrom encounter would make the whole challenge null but when the "Zekrom appeared" text popped up, I was laughing that the Devs inadvertently saved your run by making a unique battle text.
Wow!
"Juniper makes three children do her adult job for her"
Ayo?💀
Child labor legal in Unova
POKETUBERS NEED TO STOP BREAKING STORY ASPECTS.
@@phyllojoe5346 and if you think about it, unova is based off of new york. so wouldnt that mean child labor is legal in new york?
@@CryoticMienshao Everything is legal til the cops show up my dude
I think you completed the spirit of the run, even if Zekrom is a small asterisk on it. Well done, I'm impressed this was achievable.
I believe this could also be done in Platinum? The starter fight with the Starly is removed and Giratina’s text says “The Distortion World’s Giratina appeared.” I can’t think of any other forced wild encounters.
probably hard due to the large amount of HMs, but totally doable! you could cover everything with a torterra or infernape and a vaporeon, though! cut/rock smash/rock climb on the starter and surf/waterfall/strength on the vee. you could even remove rock smash and cut via the move deleter when you get to him in canalave since they're optional past the early game, or just delete rock smash and move it to the vaporeon if you want to keep all the required HMs to access more items and trainers for money and xp. you could even evolve a togepi into togetic for fly and defog with almost no xp required - just raise its friendship by running first. the only hurdle i anticipate is gardenia's gym and the galactic base in eterna being hard with a solo grotle or roark's gym being hard for a solo monferno, respectively - even if the latter can evolve it needs a fairly significant level advantage to sweep on its own
@@TigeriPlaysGames don't you get lots of free pokemon in platinum too?
@@Malam_NightYoru you can get an infinite amount of fossil Pokémon when you reach eterna city
Gen 1, FRLG/LGPE, Gen 2 and Emerald are all possible because there's no forced Legendary encounters. I don't remember if BW2 forced you to fight the Swords or Justice.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Kanto is not possible in gen 1 or the gen 3 remake due to Snorlax and Marowak. RSE is not possible as you are forced to battle a wild pokemon when you select your starter. I am unsure about GSC or HGSS.
Wild or not, an endgame legendary you're required to fight/capture to serve the plot line of the game is arguably just a minor asterisk. You avoided every other possible scenario, well done!!
Just class it as a fossil
Just so you know, using a "not very effective" STAB Surf does more damage than a neutral Slash.
95 base power X 1.5x stab /2 = ~142/2 = 71 base power
slash: 70 base power
super close if not counting the mystic water
@@kinglyzebra6417 +8 more base spatk + timid nature + torrent if its up
Higher sp. atk@@kinglyzebra6417
I'd argue Zekrom isn't wild by technicality over the "Zekrom appeared" line the moment I saw your game choice. I'd say Nebby from Gen 7 works too, but I can't remember if there are static encounters there.
Also I was wondering why you wouldn't get the Archen fossil all the way back until I remember Archen can't fly before evolving ahah.
Good job! I'd say it's a success. Though I'd agree with some other comments I found that safe states should be allowed next time.
Alola has the Totems. While the encounter text don't says "wild xxx appeared", I'm pretty sure that other NPCs say they are wild Mons. (Also they call regular Mons for help)
The first patch of grass in sun and moon forces a wild encounter, and getting your starter in ultra sun and ultra moon has you fighting a wild pokemon as well.
But you could throw Archen in the daycare and level it up until it would evolve.
Why is no one talking about gen 1 it doesn't have any mandatory legendaries and the catching tutorial is optional
@@NaveenKumar_M Gen 1 has Snorlax as a mandatory wild Pokémon. Similar in Gen 2 with a mandatory Sudowoodo.
I didn’t know a shiny mincinno could happen either, holy cow
This is absolutely insane. My jaw dropped when I realised your tactics to deliberately faint and get yourself back to that Pokemon center. You sir are a genius at this stuff. I've loved your channel for ages and I have no doubt you'll keep making amazing content 😍
No, I was thinking "Why does he pronounce Zekrom like that?"
Zekrom, Zebstrika, and most of the city names.
@@Mr-Trox i actually get pronouncing it that way with zebstrika, since it's a portmanteau of "zebra" and "strike", and most U.S. dialects pronounces zebra with a hard E.
You got the shiny minccino? Damn, that’s some luck.
Or bad luck since you can't catch it
@@Speederzzz Oh, I didn’t specify good luck XD
@@masmurdermonkey9233 XD
Imagine how insane this run would be if you had to get 700+ eggs from Samurott and Simisear to get Zekrom to spawn in Dragonspiral Tower. It’s a shame you still have to fight it at N’s Castle even with a full box and party tho
HUH?
@@Serperior1212 If you don't have a PC slot for the gen 5 box legendary to go to, you get a second chance to catch it.
poor zeek-rum.
I also feel bad for that mayan-shao
Z-Crumb
I would simply close my eyes whenever a wild Pokemon was about to appear
I would absolutely argue that the run is a success. If I can be a lore nerd for a moment, both Reshiram and Zekrom have had a "trainer" (in a relatively loose sense) in the Twin Heroes of Legend. The twins battled for their beliefs, using the pokemon as their "champions" as it were, which sounds a lot like a Pokemon battle with different stakes. I'd say, the Twins of Legend should count as Original Trainers, and you are just on the receiving end of a trade made through millennia. The "Zekrom Appeared" being different from every other pokemon battle text means that they (GameFreak) had to have thought about this, and made the conscious decision that Zekrom is not wild, and changed the battle text accordingly.
Fun fact: You can indeed complete Black and White with only exp from trainer battles, even if you have a full team of six with balanced levels, because of how the exp system works.
Ah yes, ZEEKRUM
Z-CRUMB
7:30 Due to the cubic experience function and the level based experience calculation in generation five, number of battles that result in a level 70 Samurott would be the same number of battles required to have a level 64 Samurott and level 64 Pansear, and that number of battles would be about 4x as much as getting a level 45 Samurott and level 45 Pansear.
technically, you could avoid the zekrom encounter by filling your box and party entirely with other pokemon. If you do this, zekrom will actually leave and you can encounter them later at dragonspiral tower. The next question is, how do you fill your box without wild encounters? If two of your pokemon happen to be compatible with breeding (i'm too lazy to check your available pokemon's egg groups, sorry), you could fill the box with eggs. In the past you could've used dream world to get pokemon there (i think), or you could trade with another game to get a ditto or compatible pokemon (but that could be considered cheating)
You still have to encounter and kill Zekrom
All monkeys and starters are in the Field egg group. They are compatible provided you get a male and female
Damn I can't believe I never thought of this. Time to redo the run with this rule applied!
...joking but I also wouldn't mind it
breeding is mentioned? oh no...
please dont mention the vaporeon copypasta.
please dont....
This guy pokémons
"eye-sear-uhs" city.
You never got the message "A Wild Pokemon Appeared" so I say challenge success!!
If you evolved Larvesta, it could learn fly which would let you fast travel without dying.
could also revive archen instead of tirtouga and evolve it into archeops, which requires far less grinding (obtained at level 25 and evolves at level 37)
@@Alphabet576But you can only grind on trainers that would mean Sammurott would be at a lower level like level 55-65 i think cause the experience would go to archen not samurott
@@Damarpw7 imo insofar as this is an issue with using archeops it's a much bigger problem with using volcarona
Larvesta evolves at level 59
No shot
@@Damarpw7I think there’s enough wiggle room since bw uses level scaled exp, so what would be 50 exp for a level 60 Samurott would be like 2000 exp for a level 25 archen
Also with 3 Pokémon as early as nimbasa you can just grind the battle subway for infinite rare candies lol
Cool thing. There is an already solved example where Heart Gold / Soul Silver players manipulate the rng seed by starting on a specific frame
I wonder what other Poke-tuber's like SmallAnt; MANDJTV; PokémonChallenges; and Mah-Dry-Bread would think of this video!? This is such an "out-of-the-box" challenge that I can't begin to comprehend the total amount of theory-crafting this video took. Kuddos for such a dedicated playthrough only a truly dedicated fan would attempt!!
even if the zekrom "counts" as a wild encounter, it's still impressive to beat the game with only ONE wild encounter, and that encounter is forced anyway. this video was really cool!
A Sans "no-hit" doesn't count the forced damage in the end, so I'd say you accomplished the mission anyway.
Personally, with Zekrom being a REQUIRED catch, I don't know why they didn't just add it directly to your party.
To trick children into using the Master Ball on a catch rate 25 mon instead of an actually difficult legendary
@@M3G4T3RR4 *45 catch rate
So there's another Pokemon battle.
For theatrical purposes.
I love how ironic this challenge being done in black and white is, considering the evil team wants to "liberate" pokemon from their trainers.
Kanto games have the Snorlax blockade.
Johto games have the Sudowoodo blockade.
Hoenn games have the Poochyena/Zigzagoon right after you pick your starter.
Sinnoh games except Platinum have the Starly right after you pick your starter.
B2W2 has the Crustle blockade.
X & Y has the Snorlax blockade.
Alola games have many required wild encounters in trials.
Sword & Shield has required wild Pokemon encounters in the 3rd Gym.
Legends Arceus also has many required wild encounters to rank up to unlock new areas.
Scarlet & Violet has the required wild encounters in Area Zero.
That leaves Platinum and Blaclk & White as the only Pokemon games that you could complete without finding any wild Pokemon.
Do we count catch learning battle in platinum? If we do platinum is not can be completed without wild encounter
Whoa, a female Oshawott on the first run? Nice luck.
1/8 isn't that crazy. You have a lower chance to paralyze with with Thunderbolt
The moment you choose oshawatt was the moment you gained my respect. He is the best boi
Love the idea. Good video.
Your voice almost gives ai. It’s so monotone and droning. The few times you show emotion, are way more captivating. I know it’s old but
Zekrom literally told you to catch it according to N, so the "encounter" really was just a formality.
Pokemon Black and White emphasize their story first and foremost. There's hints to the lore scattered throughout flavor text, and one of the most prominent is actually available in... Castelia City, I believe. Probably because the Relic Castle is right nearby. There's an NPC in the Art Gallery that discusses the Tao Trio's origins, and it states that Zekrom and Reshiram were both owned by trainers previously. This is why Zekrom and Reshiram are shiny-locked and why they are not referred to as wild. They are static components in a story. And by technicality, even though they "disappeared" on their trainers, they were never officially released to the wild.
Really, you knocked out "Cress's Pansage" while fighting Cilan? 😂 Amazing what a short attention span can accomplish!
Was so offended that you picked tourtuga after complaint about not being able to use fly- but then looked it up and found out that Archen can’t use fly. Arceops can but it evolves at level 37 so that’s a mute point
The inside of the Cold Storage doesn’t actually have any wild Pokémon.
The editing on this one was great. Really above and beyond. Hope to see another letter-based Nuzlocke soon!
Cold storage has no wild Pokémon inside the building
Actually insane that I haven't seen this idea done yet, big props for getting in there, will watch this a little later on
You could theoretically skip the long walk back by evolving archen into archeops and teaching it fly. However that would take more effort exp balancing and thus more strategy than lol just hit it really hard
I wouldn't count Zekrom as a wild Pokemon in this case. Honestly, most challenges start with asterisks at the beginning. "The run starts after you get your starter." "HM slaves don't count." Stuff like that. Not that that's a problem, but the fact that you didn't do that is already super impressive to me, even if Zekrom does count as wild.
well Zeekrom is definitely not a valid wild encounter, Zekrom on the other hand can be argued to be 😬
in all seriousness, it definitely doesn't count as one, so this run is 100% valid
My first thought was "this is just a Black and White speedrun with extra steps"
I think its kinda dumb to have to restart the whole challenge after encountering a Pokemon... That's so much wasted time for something so RNG dependent. For goodness sakes, just restart from your last save instead, in what way would that make the run invalid? It just saves you the headaches. :/
My faith in humanity tells me he didn’t. I think he did for the section to Accumula Town, but I think he saved and just continued re-attempting the grass section to Striaton. Hence why he waited till that town with the repels to show us Oshawott. Had he had shown the stats upon receiving his starter like basically any normal run, it would’ve outted him. He’d argue the reason he didn’t was because there was no point because if he had to restart he’d be showing us numerous Oshawotts…but still. I don’t buy that he restarted from scratch every time.
This man DOES realize that he could've grinded his other pokemon in the Daycare without encounters, right?
What would be the point? He'd have to risk a lot of encounters going back to the daycare to retrieve the Pokemon, and he didn't actually need a second Pokemon to fight. The others all served support roles.
@@jedimasterpickle3 You don't have to go in the tall grass to gain XP from the daycare.
It only counts steps.
In fact, since this is Unova, you could just beeline straight from the daycare to the bridge to Castelia without touching a single patch of tall grass.
@@kinglyzebra6417 The bridge is a risky spot because of the shadows. Any step could have a Pokemon encounter. And for what? A Simisear? A Carracosta? This challenge heavily featured minimizing potential encounter spots, hence blacking out on Route 17 to warp back to Icarus City. What's the point of having to make more trips through risky areas that aren't needed?
@@jedimasterpickle3 leveling up his other Pokemon.
And my point about the bridge is that there's plenty of encounter-free space available by the Day Care.
@@kinglyzebra6417 Why does he need to level his other Pokemon when his starter swept the game? The other Pokemon he got did their job just fine without being at a level to actually fight. And the bridge is not encounter free. Each step could have a shadow spawn, and each shadow could contain a Pokemon
Zekrom isn't wild because the game doesn't call it as such. Pretty open and shut case. I don't think the argument for thinking it's a wild encounter is nearly as persuasive as the argument for it not being wild.
You sold me with your explanation of why Zekrom doesn't count as a wild encounter. If the game doesn't say "A wild Zekrom appeared!" then it's not a wild encounter.
Me, seeing this title: but why tho
Me, upon after watching it all: BUT WHY THO
XD kudos to your creativity and patience but I could never lol
In the end it’s the difference between a WILD encounter and a STATIC encounter for me, Zekrom being a STATIC encounter specifically
Not sure about this generation but in the third gen you were able to use cut out of battle to cut tall grass. Would have been tidious for sure but also cheaper
Yeah but you also encounter a wild Pokémon when you get your starter, and later Wild Kecleon with the Silph Scope. And in FRLG you have to encounter Snorlax.
@@jjcelever never meant to do this challenge in these games, but if you Could cut the grass in 5th gen he could have saved money (more of a funfact than a serious advice)
I am not 100% on this, but iirc cutting tall grass was removed in gen4 and onward
@@qgame4941 It was. Especially funny because Emerald added a mechanic where Pokemon with Hyper Cutter would cut away bigger patches of grass than normal. They made a brand new mechanic for one game then removed it permanently from the series next game.
@@DisplayThisOkay actually cutting grass was in gen 1 and 2but i didnt know about hyper cutter and that just made me chuckle! Sad tgey removed the use for cut tho
Huge props to the amount of effort you put into the video! I would have just played Colosseum
Me, playing Colloseum: ... What's a *wild* pokemon?
It seems that saying "[legendary pokemon] appeared" is something they devs decided to do from gen 5 onward, so I wouldn't count that as a reason to think it's not wild.
However, I will still choose to believe it's not wild simply because of the Orb, as it's basically like an egg at that point. Any pokemon that hatches needs a pokeball from the get go, so battling it is just a special way of catching your "hatched" legendary.
Really clever choice of this game to avoid absolutely every wild encounter compared to the other games btw
Zekrom wasn't a wild Pokemon. You burst into his house and forced him into a tiny ball.
Omg the blacking out to fast travel strategy was so smart! I can't believe you didn't go to any pokemon centers on that whole journey
Absolutely amazing video. I'd love to see more content like this. Keep up the good work :)
it never states that the Zekrom is wild so id say it doesnt count
You can avoid having to catch Zekrom if your boxes are all full. However, I don’t know how you would fill your boxes, since you can’t just catch stuff. I’m also not sure if it avoids the fight.
The way you roleplayed getting into this challenge was awesome
I just discovered your channel and mannn I'm hooked! Your video ideas are amazing! Why didn't I find this channel before
Theoretically u could have revived archen and trained it up to evolve N learn fly if u had a repeatable trainer but idk if u have that
Has to evolve to learn Fly
You can refight the sports Trainers in Nimbasa if you keep changing the date.
@@Neo_Bones that's literally what he said
I am blown away by how UA-camrs are constantly coming up with new and unique Pokemon challenge runs- this was incredible to watch! I never would have thought about if this was possible or not, but as soon as you posed the question I was dying to know the answer. I hit the subscribe button the second the video ended. :^)
Technically you could count Zekrom as a gift because the dark stone was given to you
I feel like, if you told someone in the actual region that you'd become Champion of that region without ever meeting a single wild Pokemon, they'd scoff and say "that's ridiculous, SURELY you met one at SOME point", and then you said "well I guess I technically encountered the Zekrom I was carrying around in my backpack, but I don't know if it was wild... does that count?", they would look at you like you were insane.
What I'm saying is, yes, that challenge was successful.
I think the run was valid and zekrom was not wild, but I would have liked to see you beat N and Ghetsis without using it.
Whenever he says "ZEEkrom" a part of me dies
Nah you already have Zekrom you're just putting it in a proper ball, challenge success
Great video man, crazy challenges.
I suppose death warping is fine and sturdy might come in handy (though you have more than 2 gift mons for switch fodder you might been multiple switch folders in one fight)
My mind ofc first went for Archeops to have fly
Drinking everytime you say "Phenomenon" is a freaking deadly experience...
Audino: the run killer
Your creativity is unmatched.
in a way is zekrom not just a catchable fossil? it's just a fossil you can select the pokeball for
The only illeagle thing here is the pronunciation of Zekrom
In old Pokémon games some tiles in bushes wouldn’t provide encounters so if tried to stick inside those tiles and then tried your luck else where you were set
This is an interesting new challenge, and you did really good.
7:55 That's Cilan's Pansage. Cress is the Blue Haired brother, but I'm sure you said that to get more comments like this anyway
Phenomenon is singular. For multiple, it's phenomena.
"This tree at the dreamyard is required"
In fact, that's the only required HM use in BW. Makes you wonder why they even bothered with it.
Also yeah, in a run like this especially, but in general, it's funny how the game constantly tells you how important a balanced team is, but in the first 5 gens, it's much faster, more efficient, and easier to just put all the exp, EVs and TMs into one pokémon instead of spreading them out over 6. (TMs in the first 4).
I say you win. That was very cool run!🤩
If we don't count forced encounters, you can cheese this with cut
I would almost argue that the Zekrom encounter is more valid than other forced encounters. Because you don’t normally HAVE to catch a legendary, but Zekrom outright ASKS you to catch them and won’t leave until you do. Not just reappearing in the area, but imploring you to become their trainer. Hardly the sort of behaviour a WILD pokémon would have. Plus, you do obtain the orb far earlier, much like an egg, arguably making Zekrom yours from the start. If anything, you just provided them with a pokeball.
The rude at the beginning made me laugh so hard
Zekrom is clearly a gift Pokémon
Zekrom doesn't count as a lose condition, as you're literally forced to fight/catch it. So yes, you did complete the challenge. Congratulations.
Could've chose Archeops to be able to fly
This was a fun challenge run. Pokémon White bug spray edition.
Definitely a success btw. The game didn't classify Zekrom as a wild Pokémon.
I'm going to say you completed the challenge, considering the Zekrom you captured was awakened from the stone you were GIVEN earlier in the game. So no, it's not considered a wild Pokémon. It's a guaranteed encounter (much like a trainer battle), so you cleared the challenge.
Man, can imagine doing this challenge with a randomizer? That would be wild
3:02 "Having to face my greatest fear: touching grass"