How to find stationary points and determine the nature (Example 2) : ExamSolutions

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  • @erickasewecomedy8541
    @erickasewecomedy8541 4 роки тому +19

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    @bobbuilder22 6 років тому +45

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    • @dragonazh8850
      @dragonazh8850 5 років тому +2

      I dont understand the nature table part. Why does the 30x turn to negative but the 60x not?

    • @ahmadshumail731
      @ahmadshumail731 4 роки тому +1

      Ahad because x=-2 so
      60 x (-2 x -2 x -2 x -2) = positive
      BUT for
      30 x (-2 x -2 x -2 x -2 x -2) = negative
      Zat make sense?

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    @RM-ds2ex 7 років тому +9

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  • @jacklowndes9004
    @jacklowndes9004 3 роки тому +1

    Really needed this, I've got my A-level mocks in a couple of days and was struggling to get my head around stationary points, cheers

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    @willj476 8 років тому +30

    Your an amazing teacher

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    @Jasonlimitless 9 років тому +3

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    @loaybukr7644 3 роки тому +1

    thank youuuu i have an exam tomorrow and u just helped me thanks!!!

  • @mariehill6547
    @mariehill6547 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for the video! Just a quick question, can you prove that a stationary point is the point of inflection when a small decrease/ increase in x means that dy/dx is positive on both sides? Thank you!

  • @teatime9198
    @teatime9198 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for this tutorial, you've explained this so well and I've really understood this now! Thank you once more!!!

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths
    @ExamSolutions_Maths  13 років тому

    @thezohan2112 You could look at the gradient either side. I show this in other tutorials on stationary points. Have you seen them? Look on my index on the homepage of my website if not.

  • @maximusfantabulous2559
    @maximusfantabulous2559 4 роки тому +1

    Such an awesome explanation and the visuals really help. Thanks!

  • @mok8936
    @mok8936 9 років тому +4

    Hi,
    Do I need to know both the differential methods or can I get away with just knowing one?
    Thanks

  • @moguada
    @moguada 2 роки тому

    thank you!! such a clear, straightforward no nonsense way to explain this :)

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths
    @ExamSolutions_Maths  12 років тому

    You cannot say with certainty that when d2y/dx2=0 that the point is a point of inflexion so yes refer to the table.

  • @savokisan
    @savokisan 2 роки тому

    one question. How did you determine the shape of the graph at last part ?

  • @farris6691
    @farris6691 9 років тому

    Thank you so much for this! It's really helpful and better than the way my teacher had explained it before. I have liked your video and shared your channel with a lot of my friends, hope that it helps! You're awesome, thanks again!

  • @georgeacres4
    @georgeacres4 8 років тому

    at 6:29, with 60x^4 when x=-1, how does that equal 60? I got that it equals -60 because -1^4 is -1, and 60*-1 is -60. Please can you explain?

    • @ExamSolutions_Maths
      @ExamSolutions_Maths  8 років тому +2

      -1 x -1 x -1 x -1 = 1 not -1. I suggest you think of it as (-1)(-1)(-1)(-1) especially if using a calculator

  • @thezohan2112
    @thezohan2112 13 років тому

    what would you do instead of the double differentiation??

  • @Amanda-bg7ib
    @Amanda-bg7ib 4 роки тому

    If the second derivative = 0, then it is a point of inflection (meaning it changes from concave up to down or vice versa). The result is not inconclusive 4:56

    • @ExamSolutions_Maths
      @ExamSolutions_Maths  4 роки тому

      Sorry to say but it is until you do the table. If you were to have say y=x^4, dy/dx=4x^3 and when dy/dx=0, x=0, y=0, d2y/dx^2 = 12x^2 and when x=0, d2y/dx^2=0 but it is a min in this case not a point of inflexion.

  • @mariehill6547
    @mariehill6547 6 років тому

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  • @501supershine
    @501supershine 11 років тому +1

    cleared my doubts, thank you very very much!!

  • @Therealryu10
    @Therealryu10 12 років тому

    can't you say that when d2y/dx2=0, the nature of the sationary point is that it's an inflexion, or is it always inconclusive and do you have to resort to the table

  • @kamarulariffin9286
    @kamarulariffin9286 4 роки тому

    what is the apps for editing this video

  • @ACiDiC619
    @ACiDiC619 11 років тому

    you can use the fact that when d2y/dx2=0 and d3y/dx3 doesn't = 0 the stationary point is a point of inflexion?

  • @rohitdoestech
    @rohitdoestech 9 років тому +2

    Thanks so much for this. Your like my second tutor but free one. Thanks so much will be watching your other videos as well. You answered all of my questions in this video Thanks again

    • @ExamSolutions_Maths
      @ExamSolutions_Maths  9 років тому +3

      +Rohit Pai (rodude123) Thank you for your comments. Any support you can give is always appreciated is you find these of benefit.

    • @rohitdoestech
      @rohitdoestech 9 років тому

      You welcome

  • @bahlolrehman1503
    @bahlolrehman1503 4 роки тому

    Hi peter, you are an amazing teacher. I wanted to ask that why do you put the value of the x cordinate in the second differential i.e dy2 divided by dx2.

    • @ExamSolutions_Maths
      @ExamSolutions_Maths  4 роки тому

      That is the point we are testing and d^2y / dx^2 gives the rate of change of gradient and from this (see previous tutorial) we can tell the nature of the stationary point.

    • @bahlolrehman1503
      @bahlolrehman1503 4 роки тому

      @@ExamSolutions_Maths Thank you.

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths
    @ExamSolutions_Maths  12 років тому +1

    Cool, that's what I like to hear.

  • @ca11umsmith5
    @ca11umsmith5 6 років тому

    Explained it better than our A-Level teacher in just a few minutes - and this is from 2010

  • @losblancos99
    @losblancos99 10 років тому

    At 8:30 I tried the 1 differienational method and got the point (-2,-63) as a maximum point. Help please!

    • @WiseFoolTrades
      @WiseFoolTrades 9 років тому +1

      losblancos99 You probably did something wrong when using the first differential. I used the first differential method and I got (-2,-63) as a minimum point.

    • @losblancos99
      @losblancos99 9 років тому

      Wise Fool Your comment is a bit late as I already did my exam two days ago but I'm fine now

    • @WiseFoolTrades
      @WiseFoolTrades 9 років тому

      losblancos99 Haha well I have mine coming up on Wednesday!

    • @losblancos99
      @losblancos99 9 років тому

      Yeah I got another Maths exam on that day too. I am doing C2 OCR

    • @WiseFoolTrades
      @WiseFoolTrades 9 років тому

      losblancos99 I see. I'm retaking exams from my edexcel module.

  • @Alysmegsta
    @Alysmegsta 9 років тому +1

    This helped so much! Thank you!

    • @ExamSolutions_Maths
      @ExamSolutions_Maths  9 років тому

      +Alys McCarthy That's good. I am pleased you found it helpful

  • @JamBeauty
    @JamBeauty 11 років тому

    hi i got a question to do but ive never done it with only two numbers...i hope you can help....here goes....what are the stationary points of this function x3 (cube)- 6x2(square)

  • @Mr96Mal
    @Mr96Mal 12 років тому +1

    Thank you very much, that really helped!

  • @AM-pg6vy
    @AM-pg6vy 9 років тому

    As you said instead of zero we can try to -2 but if we take the -3 on left side and -1 in right wont the value -3 out number the -2 which is out of range ?

  • @sandyb4333
    @sandyb4333 6 років тому

    THANKS YOU ARE THE GOAT 🙌🙌

  • @rahmahhamdoon1452
    @rahmahhamdoon1452 3 роки тому

    Awesome explanation 🙌

  • @frankezenwanne
    @frankezenwanne 2 роки тому

    I really love this...Thanks

  • @08Victa
    @08Victa 11 років тому

    So much respect for you, sir.

  • @zamdwa7084
    @zamdwa7084 11 років тому

    @daniel bonello you factorize the x^4 out

  • @wisherwatch
    @wisherwatch 7 років тому

    My concepts were under attack; this video saved them.

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    @MohamedSaad-ir5lj 4 роки тому

    10 years later and the video is better than 2020 ones

  • @lewdiepie9609
    @lewdiepie9609 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much this helps a lot

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths
    @ExamSolutions_Maths  14 років тому

    @wearemce2010 differentiate, equal it to zero, factorise and solve.

  • @jacobwilson5584
    @jacobwilson5584 8 років тому

    When you add x= -2 into d^2y/dx^2 it comes to -4320, did i do something wrong because this doesn't make sense!

  • @askyourmother4853
    @askyourmother4853 9 років тому +1

    Thank you so much

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths
    @ExamSolutions_Maths  12 років тому

    @allstarjai1010 You can do that.

  • @travisfrancis5392
    @travisfrancis5392 6 років тому

    Thanks a lot bro, u helped heaps with my methods revision

    • @ExamSolutions_Maths
      @ExamSolutions_Maths  6 років тому

      That's good, thanks for watching, I hope it went well for you.

  • @僵尸-s5w
    @僵尸-s5w 4 роки тому

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

  • @monicaj7539
    @monicaj7539 9 років тому

    What if one of the (x) is zero. What do you do then..
    I learnt you got to work with (0.5) and (-0.5)?? Though I am abit unclear with this.

  • @DannyMLT
    @DannyMLT 11 років тому

    Hi ,
    I also divided by 30 and was left with 2x^4 + x^5... how do you factorise from this ?
    Thanks for the vids If I pass my degree exam will deff be leaving a nice donation :)

  • @maryamshahzad1487
    @maryamshahzad1487 6 років тому

    Great explanation

  • @destinylegend8098
    @destinylegend8098 6 років тому

    THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!

  • @ryangoburdhone8149
    @ryangoburdhone8149 9 років тому

    why does x = 0 when finding the second differential?

  • @Mr_Walters03
    @Mr_Walters03 4 роки тому

    How did you get x as 0

  • @nadh3478
    @nadh3478 5 років тому

    Sorry.. can i know why we need to to make that table??

  • @abhishekshah1400
    @abhishekshah1400 10 років тому

    so good!!!

  • @ishebacornwall5885
    @ishebacornwall5885 7 років тому

    How did he get the 2 + x in the brackets?

    • @z4inz
      @z4inz 6 років тому

      He factorised it. You can just use a calculator for that.

  • @artbridder
    @artbridder 12 років тому

    thank you!!!

  • @phyusinmyint1752
    @phyusinmyint1752 4 роки тому

    hi you are such a great teacher but for the first question I got -703, what did I do wrong

  • @ExamSolutions_Maths
    @ExamSolutions_Maths  11 років тому

    Not at all. For example take y=x^4. when x=0 it is a min

  • @ffaiq
    @ffaiq 7 років тому

    THANK UUUU

  • @ahmadshumail731
    @ahmadshumail731 4 роки тому +1

    Legend

  • @Jasmineliketheflower
    @Jasmineliketheflower 6 років тому

    how does x^4 = 0 .sorry I don't understand

    • @lacerav5818
      @lacerav5818 6 років тому

      Jasmine liketheflower either 2+x is 0 or 30x^4 is 0 because the whole expression is 0 so anything times 0 is 0 so at least one of them has to be 0 for the expression to be equal to 0 so x^4 has to be 0 because 30 times 0 is 0 and that times 2+x is 0

  • @aaronowusu5202
    @aaronowusu5202 10 років тому

    Awesome

  • @DavidBux101
    @DavidBux101 7 років тому +4

    hey ive got a math test tomorrow wish me luck cya

  • @Jasonlimitless
    @Jasonlimitless 9 років тому

    While plotting the graph 'This is not to scale but I just want to illustrate a few points' Slipping sneaky calculus joke in there?

  • @linozapped6278
    @linozapped6278 3 роки тому

    I have my math methods test tomorrow wish me luck

  • @zamdwa7084
    @zamdwa7084 11 років тому

    Can't u just say that when x=0 d2y/dx2 =0 and therefore it is a horizontal point of inflection?

  • @wearemce2010
    @wearemce2010 14 років тому

    how to find Stationary point
    F(x) = x^4 - 1/2x^2 +1

  • @anthonymezzatesta1365
    @anthonymezzatesta1365 2 роки тому

    Callux? 🤔

  • @Sxyel
    @Sxyel 4 роки тому +1

    i am very sry but this made everything more complicated. Is there an easier way?

  • @chigozie2739
    @chigozie2739 4 роки тому

    Please why do you differentiate twice

  • @kingHD11
    @kingHD11 5 років тому

    This is fucking brilliant wow thank you

  • @ACiDiC619
    @ACiDiC619 11 років тому

    can you*

  • @RatonLSD
    @RatonLSD 5 років тому

    thanks lmaoooooooooo ez 100

  • @yamin_05
    @yamin_05 4 роки тому +1

    i dont fucking understand anything you dont even explain you just do examples

    • @shehlaamir6011
      @shehlaamir6011 3 роки тому

      because this is a example video. he has videos where he actually explains the concepts. you can watch them instead.

  • @savinagunaratne1601
    @savinagunaratne1601 4 роки тому

    Thank You SO much