BYRNA LE • NYLON vs ALUMINUM vs RUBBER-STEEL AMMO
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Welcome to Airgun Alley’s second video about Byrna, a powerful .68 caliber launcher that global brand Byrna markets around the world as a "less-lethal" form of home/self defense.
Today we’ll have a good look at a variety of solid ammo: Byrna’s hard plastic Kinetic Projectiles + light weight aluminum balls + the famous Rubbe-Steel balls by Acil Selling - with the new Byrna LE (Law Enforcement) 16+ joules launcher.
We put the plastic, aluminum and rubber-steel rounds through the chronograph to calculate the speed of the projectiles in FPS and ultimately their power in Joules... (easier written than done, as you'll see.)
We then turn against the coconut and finally we shoot a very, very, very (I think 20%) ballistic gel T-Rex, kindly provided by Clear Ballistics.
Will all the ammo work in this world famous powerful CO2 launcher? And how powerful are them shots? Click play and enjoy this MUST WATCH video!
PS The low light really ruined some key readings due to low light ERR messages. I was in a rush against the incumbent looming storms and sunlight was a disappearing luxury during this shoot.
I will be putting this gun through the chronograph a lot....
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Byrna LE + Aluminum Balls.....
A Winning Combination !!!
For sure!!!
I recently purchased the LE. I have it for work (I run a small security company), and use it as an alternate carry on days I'm running errands here in commie SoCal where I know I won't be able to carry my firearm (lucky enough to have a CCW here). So far, I'm loving it. I had an interaction with security at a venue recently, where firearms were prohibited, but I would be allowed to have something like a can of pepper spray, or a pocket knife. The looks on their faces when their supervisor googled the laws around non-lethal launcher/spray devices, and had to sgree that even if they didn't like it, I was allowed to do it, was absolutely golden. I was gracious and polite about it, but it was nice to finally have a solid defense tool I can take basically everywhere legally, and people here kinda have to suck a fat one, learning that it's literally just a can of pepper spray on paper.
My ONLY complaint is the difference in consistency across different ammo types.
Also, I know that the only reason I'm allowed to carry pepperball ammo here in CA is because I have all of my state security certifications and licenses.
They gave you a wallet card for you to write down the serial number, and it states the launchers legality right there.
not true. I can buy and use pepperballs now and don't need any liscense lol. I'm in Cali too
california really does hate its citizens
Precisely the kind of video I was looking for before buying more balls
quick uodate for anybody who comes across this , metal balls I got from amazon were much better than the byrna brand , cheaper than the byrna brand and caused no issues to the byrna pistol itself that I have noticed
I also tested black plastic "reusable" ones from Amazon and not only were they much cheaper but alot more dense and hard and overall better than byrna brand balls
conclusion : dont waste money on byrna brand balls
@@FlyingNazgul-wm1dv have a link ?
@FlyingNazgul-wm1dv glad I seen your comment. I was just about to order a 20 pk of these aluminum. 68 cal rounds for my byrna SD. Wasn't sure if I would mess up my byrna but I think I'll order them and then see if maybe you respond before using them. They're not named brand, just something free that I get to choose from because I am an Amazon Influencer and get free stuff every day. Lol! Hopefully they'll work in the sd (5 round mag) with the 8oz co2 cartridges. Any help or advice would be helpful. Thanks.
@@FlyingNazgul-wm1dv Can you please link the metal balls that you are recommending in your comment?
I always thought burna was a very corny type of launcher because they were so weak but with this one having a higher power that's very impressive now! nice video Gian!
Thanks a lot Caleb! This is my first experience with a Byrna and I guess I got lucky, I think the LE’s power is very similar to my favorite launcher, the HDR 68 (16 joules). So I’m happy. Of course you can only shoot round stuff with this one, but…
@@AirgunAlleyGrimburgh is the most Powerful launcher ive ever tried.with little bit adjustment it shoot 68Joule with steel 68mm ball.Byrna is a joke
The Byrna is a joke for self defense. I own one.
@@americanmade-1 I've deployed the Byrna on and off duty. I did exactly what is was intended to do, with both OC and kinetic rounds. Our area warrant service team has multiple deployments on record with satisfactory results. This is a less lethal alternative to a Taser and similar, not a substitute for a firearm.
Great video. You playing like a Barney Fife cop in the beginning is hilarious. I had the same issue with the rubber/steel balls sticking in the seven-round magazine and had to carefully pry them out with a flat-tipped screwdriver. I was able to get them to work using a five-round one from my SD because of the way the balls sit in the magazine straight up and down instead of staggered as the seven-round has.
Never watched ur show first time i have something to say so i am proud to be a american and and when i watched the end promoting gun safety the way u did i am just blown away like u really understand what my dad teached me as a kid that was my dad no one really liked him but i did u are a great man and i am impressed and honored to sub and thump up your ok in my book god bless u son 💯👻💣💥💥🙈🙉🙊safety first
Thank you so much! I really appreciate you comment and welcome to the channel sir :)
Consider weighing at least 10 projectiles all at once and dividng that total weight to get a better average weight .
Another great video my friend! A few thing I've found about byrna, heavier projectiles affect the feeding as well as continually "ghost loading " an extra round. I carried my SD with 6 Canada riot balls for about a month or two. When I went to practice I found that they didn't want to feed reliably. I dissambled the mag, lightly stretched the spring, and all was good. Since I've gone back to byrnas kinetic round with 5 in the mag. P.S. If I could get down there I'd volunteer for the pepper tests!
Hahahaha ok then, I’ll hold you to that spicy offer :)
And thank you so much for your input and kind words 🙏🏽🙌🏼
Great vid! Nice production value and editing. looking at this Byrna and the non lethal Glock alternative. Byrna makes the more compelling case but not easy to carry.
Thank you so much Rodney, really appreciate it!! Yes hard to say, if you have the chance to walk into an airgun store, maybe you could get the feeling of each and decide. The Byrna has a very cool holster for it!
Seems like the LE has become popular in South Florida. Another nice test my friend. Is the Byrna LE the best compact option or is the Grimburg Gavle better? Hope you get your hands on the Gavle in the future and can compare them head-to-head. In the meantime, I'm sticking with my PepperBall TCP with extended mag that can run 8+1 and has a fresh CO2 with each new mag. Yes it's bulky but hard to beat on power AND shot count.
Hey man! Gosh sorry so late! Funny, ever since I made these Byrna videos soooo many people have suggested I test the Gavle… and so I contacted Grimburg who said they’ll try to send me one to test asap… 🤞🏽🤞🏽
As always thank you for your very valuable and well thought engineer input :)
the gavle looks so unappealing, there is no grip at all just a mere handle... I would need to hold one u guess
The Gavel is way better launcher. Its a tank compared to the Byrna line. You can get a grip extension for the Gavel hit me up if you want the details. John Wixon sells them and they work fantastic and still allow you to charge the Gavel even with it on. Gavel is very well made and very simple it is straight power from the C02 no internal regulator on Gavel which helps give it its power.
@KentuckyBallistics is like "My T-Rex ain't no punk!!" 😂😂😂
Great Video man! 💪💯
Opening skit was really good
Hahahaha!! Thank you so much my man 🙏🏽🙌🏼
Well you made me FREEZE mate 😊. Informative vid as usual...keep em coming.
Hahahahahaha!! I’m glad I was somewhat credible 😂😂 thank you so much my friend!
I appreciate you put work into your videos....
And I appreciate your comment which gives me a ton of support! Thank you!
Thanks for the tip on making the first round more powerful. I'm more interested in the chemical deterrent rounds, they seem more capable of slowing someone down. Thanks for the video.
Bella mujer, compadre. Felicidades. The rebounds have hurt me. Thanks to your experiments. Now I believe that Umarex is more profitable than Byrna.
always has been always will be for sure , tripple power from UMAREX!!!
That may be true, but the purpose of the Byrna isn’t to penetrate. Their OC balls are no joke. Even near misses make you gag and cough. I’d say that is a win.
Yea bro the rubber rounds are garbage and create drag in the barrel. Might I recommend Homewreker Busting Balls instead of the rubber rounds. Great testing my man
Great content! Just got an LE recently and ordered some aluminum rounds after watching your videos on them with different launchers 👍
Thanks so much man! I hope you’ll find them as good as I do… have fun and keep us posted :)
Where do you order aluminum rounds??
@@636toneAmazon. Search “68 cal aluminum balls s type”
There’s a product that’s about $9.98 and comes in batches of 25. You can choose between black and silver. It should be the third result.
Great video! And sorry about the busted screen At least it did look like you had fun.
PS. Thanks for showing us how the rubber rounds jam and fail to feed, I've ben wondering about that.
A small shot of silicone spray fixes the jamming issue. But yeah you're not suppose to be firing rubber ammo in a Byrna.
Sorry about the screen. Thanks for doing these.
Much appreciated again!! In the end I was able to get it fixed quite quickly :)
Seeing as the pepper spray and tear gas balls are not legal in California do you think the other projectiles are able to stop an intruder?
Hi there! That’s always the million dollar question and sadly the answer is a very generic one: it all depends on the scenario you find your self in. If you’re confronted with an armed, heavily dressed or heavily drugged/intoxicated individual the answer is most likely “no”.
In many other cases, absolutely!
For me reliability is key; thats why I i prefer the TR 50..
5 round mag works in LE as well. I recommend using 5 round for pepper/tear gas, they will load properly. Stick with non rubberized for the 7 round.
Keep in mind that if you run across a great deal on the SD with 8gr CO2, you can convert it to the 12gr CO2 with a kit that's under $60. There are also now 7 round magazines available. The SD is still smaller, and I assume the LE has a bit more punch due to longer barrel length.
This was amazing! Thank you!
T-rex: 1
I-pad: 0
Looking forward to the rematch. LOL
maybe get a sheet of plexi glass or something like that to put in front of your camera setup you can use some bricks to position and hold it up . Great video been waiting to see this.
Thank you so much and you know the sad part? I actually bought those plexiglass boards and have used them in the past. I just wasn’t expecting the ammo to bounce off the gel like that 😳
great video as always keep up the great work
THANK YOU!! 🙌🏼🙏🏽
Definitely putting the first 2 of the aluminum balls in the rest pepper
i like bryna for the trigger puncture mechanism but the price and results still doesn't make the bryna worth it.
right on , get a hdp.50 and both hdr's for that price and possibly get a mercury rise pistol too !!! lmao !!!
😂😂
Thank you for your input! 🙌🏼
@@AirgunAlley what is your opinion
Got mine for $20 from my buddy
Your opening made me think of Dwight Schrute from The Office!
I also Run a First Strike FSC 6 rounds takes 12 gram co2 and the first few Shots are in the 46 to 40 Joules Range. It hits hard I have it modded with VKS Bolt and Spring and Sterling Self Defense back cap so I can run the VKS Bolt inside of it. the FSC and TCP are substatially larger launchers so that is why I default to my Grimburg Gavel 1.5. But still keep my FSC around for home defense and its alot of fun to shoot
Excellent shooting test, bro!🔫 And excellent ammunition! 👌 The oil cartridge is a new innovation 💡 😊 What happened to the plexiglass shield for your phone? 📱
Thanks so much my warrior and sorry so late! The oil cartridge is pretty cool indeed, hope I know how to use it right 😂
Good question on the plexiglass, I honestly didn’t think those rounds would bounce like that 😞
@AirgunAlley It's always better to be safe than sorry! 😞 😄 Welcome, bro. You're a funny guy! 😁
wonderful video thank you so much.
You know you made it when byrna has your video on their page😁 btw just wait a couple days and you can go to work dressed like that on halloween and your wife can’t say anything against it🤣
Hahahahahahahaha!! So true! I CAN’T WAIT for halloween 😂😂
And thank you so much, yes Byrna was very kind to share my video. I find the people that work there super nice! Unlike other brands hehee
Great showing as usual brother! Too bad about the tablet. Its your excuse to buy the new one. Hahaha💥💥💥
Good video and data collection.
as a true scientist of air and co2 powered shooters I really enjoyed this video because You put in the scientific data in . i am not fond of byrma , BUT THE HOST OF THE CHANNEL WAS SUPERB.
i suspect if the rubber /steel rounds were HEAVILY OILED it would function a lil better , maybe ?
i would still watch EVEN if you were testing a daisy red ryder !!! lol .
AWESOME SHOW, MY AWESOME BROTHER
what's a non-lethal gun type you prefer to byrna?
@@CrawlingAxle the true and time tested umarex hdp.50 and hdr.68 !!!
The byrna LE is a beast!...And one of the most powerful launchers out there!!
@@jeremywilson6938 Jeremy you evidently are not skilled in modding air powered weapons or have any knowledge of them also !!!! that byrna le will get you seriously hurt if you ever use it to protect or defend yourself !!! you should have spent all the F-ing money on a real firearm !!! lmmfao !!!
Thanks. Another great video. I purchased the Byrna LE using your link last week. I purchased separately, (not sold by Byrna) a speed changer so there is no need to use the magazine's key to change the co2.
That’s so cool!! I need to look into that speed changer, thanks for sharing! And thank you so much for using the link to purchase your new Byrna, much appreciated my friend! 🙏🏽🙌🏼
How do you like your new LE so far?
@AirgunAlley great videos as I'm in the market for a Byrna LE. Out of curiosity, which ammo were you using on the ballistic gel?
Great video, the Byrna does not like when the balls aren’t slick, the rubber/metal balls will not feed properly as they seems too sticky, you can use a little bit of silicone spray on the balls, and it may help, but I would just stick to nylon.
Loved the intro
Nice video and great test as always my friend. To bad you ruined the camera. Take care and stay safe. Cheers from your friend in Norway
Thanks for another great video :D You really need to get some acrylic plates to protect your self and your gear!!! Looking forward to the next one from you :D
Yeah the Byrna is just meant for the tear gas rounds, The tippman works better for both.
Like the test format you've developed. It's logical for the LL world. Very sorry the ricochet claimed another piece of equipment; keep up the good work though. I really appreciate this channel.
Saying that, I do want to add that I'm not trusting byrna in comparison to umarex. They seem to have more issues.
Gracias amigo por tus pruebas balísticas con home defens.
En definitiva, creo que las armas 'home defens' con bolas de goma, son las perfectas para su cometido, pues son las que más impacto tienen, al presionarse la goma, y por peso, velocidad etc, sin ser letales, ni herir de gravedad ( salvo el peligro de los ojos, presente incluso en airsoft).
Saludos desde Spain !
Alright mate 👍 thought it would have shot all round projectiles good job it wasn't in a emergency situation and you had the rubber steel round in 😂 great vid though you need a shield to stop the rebounds
Haha that was a big surprise with those rubber ones! But good to know…
Next video you’ll provably like. A very cool looking 3D printed tactical mount for the HDR 50 😎
Thank you as always, Stuart!!
@@AirgunAlley always look forward to your vids mate always interesting
Not sure if I ever mentioned on your channel, but if a person uses ammunition that is not specifically intended for use in a launcher, thereby “changing” the lethality of said launcher, the prosecutor can raise the argument against the user, that “intent to kill or inflict serious bodily harm” upon an assailant is “premeditated” thus raising those actions to the level of “criminal intent”, which is punishable by law. That said, please use launchers for their designed and intended purpose so as not to fall victim to overzealous prosecution for defending yourself and/or your family, friends, neighbors, or anyone else whom you may encounter needing assistance from an assailant. Less lethal launchers are to “deter an assailant” from their criminal intent. Not to kill the assailant. Showing you have some respect for life, unlike people who shoot others in the back and argue they were in fear of their lives, 🙄 Let’s just say they are murderous cowards. If anyone is in fear of their life while the assailant is running away from them, they need to be prosecuted for 1st degree murder and then they can spend the rest of their lives truly being in fear of their lives while living with the criminally insane. Use launchers responsibly, because the misuse of them can get you a lifetime of suffering.
So just stick to the real guns gotcha
Lawyers can argue almost anything. The color of the weapon, what you ate for lunch that day, the weather outside, all and more, has been argued before. What's of chief importance is surviving.
Why would you want to suggest, even so slightly, that it's a bad idea to do anything to increase one's odds of survival?
@@InitialFailureAgreed 👍
The law can side with the criminal many times. It happened to me.
Lol, gotta love UA-cam lawyers.
Proving everyday how little they actually know.
Hello there my compadre. Gee, considering this Byrna is 60% more powerful, I was, and I’m sure you were, expecting more from it. The joules were good and the fps was decent, but what happened to the ooomph factor? I’m glad you didn’t get hurt from this balls bouncing back off that dinosaurass. As always, my friend, a great video. So much fun to watch. Take care until the next episode, and please say hello to your lovely wife. She’s such a beauty.
With huuuuge delay my compadre I apologize and thank you sooo much!
I’m actually pretty impressed with this launcher. If you don’t consider the fact that it can only shoot balls, I would put it on the same power level of the HDR 68. But we’ll only know once I actual put them side by side which should be soon!
Thank you as always my friend and hope you’re feeling better and better
@@AirgunAlley doing much better, thanks. The delay is understandable. You have a lot on your plate right now. I didn't think you would have the time to reply and thank you for doing so. Hope your move goes smoothly. All the best.
That definitely hurt lol 😂
I live in Miami I would like to know if there is a place to practice with BBs guns. I haven't found any. Any ideas?
Hello there neighbor!
Lucky for us Florida has virtually no regulation: on air guns. So you can shoot it at home, in your backyard, pretty much anywhere that doesn’t put anyone in danger.
At the worst you can drive 30 mins out to the Everglades and find you a spot there. Along road 27 there are plenty of such spots.
Good luck and have fun!
another great video, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank YOU!
Those things are a blast my brother and i have shoot outs all the time with them. Its like nerf for adults.
Yup and we clearly see the damage it’s done to you. Never mind the headshots, sounds like you were dropped one too many times as a baby
@@AirgunAlley wtf. Why would you make such a rude and disrespectful comment like that? For real?
@NICKATEEN916 because at the third or fourth same comment, I figured something was wrong with you. No disrespect and nothing against you, but you must understand that A) I get a ton of lunatics commenting non-sense and B) I have a weapon channel, which comes with serious responsibility.
If you go writing that you and your brother go shooting each other in the head with these… I need my audience to understand that that is simply idiotic, before someone really attempts something like that.
Does it make more sense to you now?
💥I am predicting the next model will have the same powerful internals of the LE but w/out the extended barrel. 💥Coming in 2024. The LE compact.
Re the coconut test: Marksmanship counts. Hitting the same spot twice made a world of difference in the damage inflicted.
New subscriber here. I recently moved to a section of my city that's there's been quite a bit of home invasions, the thing is I got in trouble when I was young and cannot own a firearm what do you recommend is the best airgun for somebody that's in my situation, thank you.
Hi my friend! Thank you so much for subscribing. I would recommend you watch a few of my videos (and of others) to see which option best suits you.
I personally like the revolver style launchers, as they offer a much larger variety of ammo options and shapes. With mag fed guns like the Byrna, you only have the round balls option.
That said, solid round balls have proven to be extremely effective, to not mention the powerful pepper ones.
So, to make it short, I would see which you prefer between the Byrna LE and the Umarex HDR 68 (16 joules version) as they’re both among my favorite options.
Lastly there is a PCP (not CO2) gun that I should be testing soon, the Huben GK1. That one promises to be up there among the best options - however it comes at a price. Literally. CO2 launchers go for a few hundred dollars while the GK1 is looking to cost around $1400.
Hope this helps and best of luck
@@AirgunAlley thank you
Hdx 68 for home with upgrades to 40j...umarex double barrel upgraded using arrow bolts for home defense...byrna le for carry with duke extreme peppers and duke glass breakers mix
@@edgefinesse4700 thanks I'll check those out
So according to the video the best ammo sounds like the aluminum?
Yessir! I’ve been testing alu ammo for some time now. From a whole variety of launchers. And thus far they’ve never disappointed…
Amazon sell the Byrna Pistol LE version but they will not ship to CA addresses I believe they are just the non pepper ball rounds version.
Very nice vid. I recently bought SD. Smooth operation. Good pop. Had some initial sticking issue with safety. With several "rounds" still in the mag, i could not flick safety on. It bogged down half way between. Did not want to force it. Have you experienced this??
I've had that issue with mines using byrna Kinetic ammo, if it gets dirty on the inside from anything, it will not shoot
Bryna can come out with whatever they want, I'm not dropping $400+ on a less lethal. I'll just stick to my tuned Umarex hdr50 with devestators, aluminum balls or cododos. Plastic if I'm feeling forgiving 😊
SMART MAN !!!
spend 400 plus on a real 9mm !!! lol.
@@rick31869 Exactly. I got my Glock 19 for not much more than that lol
This byrna stuff and electric cars are conjoined twins born out of the same mother of absurdity
Totally 😂
Haha love this 😂
Where do you get the aluminum balls??
Hey there, there’s a link in the pinned comment - seems like they may be out of stock at the moment, but keep checking as they usually come back quite fast
I was told that the rubber steel balls should be coated with some baby powder to make them come out smoother.
Aloha from Hawaii! I carry the SD with an Olight PL-Mini Valkyrie light (it held up to the recoil from my 9mm and .40, so .68 CO2-powered rounds are a non-issue). Nice soundtrack, what pieces are you playing for the coconut demolition video?
Ok,you can get 2 magazines outta this. You've tinkered with all kinds of airguns, coud the valve spring be adjusted for more power but less shots
The aluminum balls were impressive
Gotta rub baby powder on the rubber steel balls so they can slide in the chamber and shoot properly like the other ammunition
Ask Houston Jones he might volunteer
should be called the Byrna LiE.
Byrna tends to want you to buy their ammo/projectiles. If they have rubber or steel or aluminum projectiles, I’m not aware of them. That Grimburg Gavel has to be the most powerful non lethal firearm. I’d question if it’s non lethal.
Idk what to believe anymore. You say it’s great, others say the seals break after 1st use….. I just want something this size that is dependable. I like the feel and look of the Byrna but need to know it will work should I really need to use it.
we would like to see a straight comparison with umarex(maybe hdr50 hdp50 or ever 68) and byrna with this big white numbers you did in this video to highlight the joules of this two guns .....great video
Is this quick enough?? Ahahahaha thank you my friend and here you go :)
BYRNA LE vs HDR 68 • LESS LETHAL SELF DEFENSE
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dayyyum thats quick 🤩🤩😵😵💥💥🔥🔥 @@AirgunAlley
salutes from rio de janeiro my man 🙋🏽♂️
Hi can you please provide the link to your golden scale I like it?
Absolutely! :) ⚖️ GOLDEN SCALE amzn.to/48FUyK7
i like the look of the byrna but i feel like the different ammo types of the hdr 50 11 joule make its better and its 1/4th of the price
I just subscribed to your channel
Thank you!! 🙏🏽
I accidently fired a pepper spray ball into my hallway, I was coughing and tearing for 2 days... they work
Gee, horker, that was rough!
We got our LE in Vegas store. Me wife has not fired the ProJ hahah launcher since the shooting range with Dutch or err ahhhhh Mr Dutch to me. And from what I hear from me wifes friends Dutchie or is it a Y? yeah Dutchy sure could Rhyme and spit the beats!!
15:30 great video, but it 16:02 is lethal
well i know you are like in florida right, so i know it is not a pistol but my aea hp 51 cal max rifle i regulated it and i use the exact half inch carbon steel ball bearings at 8.4grams or 128grain.and my regulated speeds are arount 1080fps with 6 shot magazines and 18 shots before the power starts dropping.
and i listened to this and your riccochets and well i am firmly convinced that i would rather stick with lethal self defense as one round would do the job , being steel it is going through , pretty much anything even half inch aluminum plate, but i do not suggest shooting steel at hardened steel cause it will come back at you.
smiles as you now know.
i only use steel on soft targets. i use lead for the hard targets at 300grain and well i get around 350fpe regulated regardless.
so it is gonna go through a car door and everything in there and out the other side of the car's other door.
so vehicles used in drive by's beware comming on my street k. i would not suggest it.
and t-rex go find another meal cause i willeat ya.
and my friend, if you come to texas. and bring your pepper/tear gas projectiles, i will wear my heavy jacket and motorcycle armor underneath and you can try to make that gas stop a monster.
but if i get to ya i am wiping the stuff off me and on you hahaha
smiles just for kicks and giggles.
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well it is only fair that if i can muscle through the pepperballs(been through prison and they gassed us alot , kinda flavors the ramen soups better) so wipeing it off myself onto the person that sent it is just fun right.
the steel , well i have had it riccochet so close it grazed a leg and took hair. so i just keep that in reserve for hunting and soft targets.
got plenty of lead and those 310gr and 300 gr fly at around 750-820 fps and if i need to use the heavy 51 cal my element max it uses 345gr through 420 gr lead and well it is devestating at near 530fpe. like sending a sledge hammer at something, so even a kevlar vest is still gonna allow that energy to transfer into that target break bone and put that vest into the target. it is sub sonic flight so probably wont go through, but they will get knocked off their feet and wont be much of a fight for a bit.
got a .357 air rifle the aea big bore that sends 160 gr hp at around 900fps and has the same energy level but it is twice as heavy and scoped for longer ranges.
snd back in the late 80's and mid ninety's there used to be drive bys here in grand prairie many nights. once i had to dodge 96 machine gun /uzi bullets my self got my palms all cut from glass on the ground. but ya know the streets here are not that bad these days comparitively.
but those gang members still tell urban legends of things i did. so that expression from you is a compliment. smiles with grinning teeth amade of circon and platinum. like a monster in the dark..
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I run a Grimburg Gavel 1.5 which is 36 Joules at the muzzle and thats with 8 gram Jv2 Ammo not some crappy 3 gram ammo.
If you’re using any other ammo besides BYRNA, something goes wrong with your gun they are not going to replace it… It specifies only using their ammo
Byrna is such a disappointment from a power delivery perspective. I am happy I went with the Salt S2! The S2 can also use a large range of ammo 😅
I really need to try that one! Thanks for your input!
@AirgunAlley , the Salt S2 is a solid marker. It is limited to modding up to 25 j but is an excellent, well-designed marker. I have my heart set on a Pepperball TRP SSD.
@10:25, and this is why you do not buy a Byrna! 😅😅😅😅😅 save your money! There are lots of reviews on Byrna and why you should avoid it!
@@Sola_Scriptura_1.618That was the ammo, not the gun. And, apparently, there's a simple fix for the problem: talcum powder.
@brianfoster7064 8:30 was not ammo, it was the Byrna! My HDR kills the Byrna on power!
How to use the oil tube to lube the gun? Is it a mixture of c02 with oil to spread the lube around?
That is right. Every 10th cartridge use the oil combined one.
Have you heard about the ATF ban on less then lethal ammo? I heard about it 3 days ago. It's true the ATF has put a ban on less then lethal ammo coming in from other countries, you have to be some kind of training facility or law enforcement to receive this ammo civilians can not buy it. The ATF does not want civilians training with this type of ammo.
That's for ammo designed to be powder-fired. The ATF ban doesn't apply to Less Lethal airgun ammo.
@@ScaredyCatTactical OK that's good to know, thank you so much for the info. either way it's BS...What part of less lethal does the ATF not understand?
@@ScaredyCatTactical its like saying they dont care about tobacco either ! lol .
@@rick31869 Yeaw that's like liberty Gun Safe saying that it will no longer give the FBI the codes to open your gun safe (without a search warrant) after they have already given the code to the FBI without a search warrant. Can I get a DUHHHH on that.
I dont need aluminum balls. Mine are made of steel.
You remind me of these two guys bahahahaha ua-cam.com/video/OfoKO8YGAvM/v-deo.htmlsi=XPdcYZ53dZa3poqj
Can pepper balls be left in the car ?
They’re in mine no issues
I’m trying to find where to purchase the launcher without all the ammo from the site and just purchase aluminum rounds on Amazon but I can’t find it. Any chance you can guide me
Hi Anthony!
I think the launcher comes in a box with 3 different ammo samples and 2 CO2 cartridges. Not sure there is a way around that tinyurl.com/dy9s2j47
As for the aluminum ammo, here’s the link amzn.to/3tib1UV
I hope I answered your question, let me know if not…
Think I'll stick to pcp pistols and rifles
PCP is good! :)
collateral damage, oops.!
Do grimburg gavel
Non-lethal means to use a lesser means to avoid using deadly force. I think using a material with metal in it could only cause death or serious harm that can lead to death. I think using the rubber steel rounds or aluminum will lead to some sort of lawsuit in the future and make it difficult to carry the Byrne Le or other non-lethal tools. Strongly recommended not to use the steel/based or aluminum balls as self-defense because the law may consider it deadly force application and jail time may be produced from this.
Hi, thanks for this. I however would argue that using a metal projectile Can be deadly, with a capital C. They’re actually far from being easily deadly.
If your attacker is wearing heavy winter clothing and a helmet, I think having an aluminum ball will give you that extra energy and confidence you may need for that scenario.
I mention clearly in the video that Byrna is designed for pepper or nylon balls only.
You are right in saying that it all depends on your local laws and regulations. But there is definitely no law that forces you to use only certain projectiles with a launcher
What does the "Error" message mean?
Low light. This chrono likes a lot of direct light on it…
Try a light coating of silicone on the rubber steel. Perhaps they will feed better. Sorry about your equipment.
Is the bryna red or orange?
This version is orange. They come in other colors as well, but not red…
Would be a cool comparison against the new Gavle but by what i’ve seen so far on yt the gavle is more powerful
Oh I know and much agree!! Just waiting on them to send me one… they said it could be a while
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Byrna will void your warranty if they find out the owner is using different ammo other than the byrna 3g kinetic rounds. DK Spencer just did a video on this. Despite the fact he supported byrna products, endorsed them, bought their products, byrna said it was his fault his launcher is broken and they won't fix it. They want him to pay
Thanks a lot for this! I’m not at all surprised. Umarex also does the same. I guess I can’t blame them. People make all kinds of crazy projectiles nowadays. I’ve had “brands” send me wax slugs that melted in the gun. The metal balls are also extra harsh on the barrel… again, I think it’s understandable.
That said, it’s a fact that people must know, so thank you again for sharing. And really sorry to hear about DKSpenser
WARNING.....Using non-Byrna balls will likely void your warranty if any damage is caused, There is a UA-cam video addressing this warranty issue with the LE. Just saying......
SO BASICALLY ALUMINUM WILL SPLIT A SKULL LOL