YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT GOD VALLEY! ROCKS D. XEBEC IS A FRAUD?
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
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Thanks for bringing all this to light, Par. It's been really hard to convince people of the truth that Foxy is not only the son of Xebec but also a celestial dragon.
LMFAOOOO Foxy being "Rocksy's" son would be kind of funny. how the crew fell from there hahah
That would be amazing 😂
@@Parvision- kaido said that there are only 5 people capable of fighting him and one of them was rocks
@@mrprogamerx6050 what chapter(s) did he say this again?
@@GhostEmblem1001
Rocks’ will wasn’t inherited by Blackbeard. It was inherited by Buggy.
The moment Oda reveals Rocks had blue hair is gonna be legendary
Also Rayleigh made a remark about Oden kids being on the ship reminding him of the past made me think maybe buggy and shanks growing up on Roger ship after God valley makes sense. Also buggy being entrusted to Roger by rocks same way he would do the same with ace to Garp would be crazy foreshadowing.
Well history being written for the winner says Rodger was put to death but his last word started this and Buggy being from his crew had some fame, we do not "know" much of the real story. Btw Washington took office in 1789 well later than people assume but hearing 76 which goes to this show, also the "winner" was not either Pirate crew of Rocks or Rodger it was the one who had gotten to lay the claim. Either has a case but who knows
Rocks' will is in Blackbeard. His genetic line is in Luffy because Dragon is Rocks' son
@@mattb6616 interesting and totally plausible line of thought, Matty B.
@@dradenlol8667 i think its the only possible explanation of Woop Slap's iconic "is it his dream... or his destiny?" line. Why would it be Luffy's destiny to be a pirate if no one in his entire family or history was a pirate, and he only even started caring about pirates after he befriended Shanks? It doesn't make sense, unless he does actually have some family history with pirates.
Also Garp never actually calls Dragon his son, it's always "Luffy's father" and Luffy is "The child of my child", specifically never saying "son of my son". I think Dragon is Rocks' son and he married Garp's daughter, and the reasons Dragon and Garp hate the celestial dragons are the same; they took Luffy's mom. This is also I think why everyone in the Marines is just okay with Garp's insubordination, because they'd be assholes to call him out on it when it's because of his daughter being killed or enslaved.
Time to watch another Parvision video whist high as a kite 🍁 🪁
Same bro
Wish I could say the same but I'm at work smh....going in sober
It's a magical thing
Lmao just got ripped now onto more one piece theories🎉
Yes!!! LOL. 😁😁😌😌😂😂🤣🤣
I think rocks is more of a buggy type character. They seen him for who he was (just lucky) at go's valley and that's where his luck ran out. The crew was so embarrassed that they had followed him that far and now don't want to talk about it.
🤣🤣 I made this comment 18 min in.
LMAOOO CELICIA MINDROPE
But kaido respect rox and even garp said that he had his own era
@@jonathancharles3719 that right and it's said that Rock was his greatest enemy
well i don't think that's true or kiado would've have not put him on his list on top 5 who can beat him if he level type character like buggy
The first part of the video is valid but the part where Rocks is like a buggy and fails upwards isn't. Rocks was in Kaido's top 5 as people who could legitimately fight him like how Oden scarred him. It would be ridiculous for someone like Kaido who takes fighting one on one very seriously to have Shanks, Whitebeard, Roger and Oden in his five yet a hypothetical scenario where Rocks is weak in his 5.
Mihawk said himself about Luffy that the strongest power on the seas is the power to bring people together and, no matter how he did it, Rocks brought Conquerors together. That right there makes him Top 5. No one else that we know of has done that
@@onliwonkenoli9868 Exactly. And the history of the Rocks pirates was wiped. Sengoku said "The World Government Erased their Exploits"
@@onliwonkenoli9868 oh so you mean because Rocks and Buggy can use talk no jutsu that means they're strong enough to beat Kaido? Damn didn't know Buggy was like that, yeah this theory makes sense 😂
@@onliwonkenoli9868 remember the only pirates on kaido's top 5 were people that has beaten him or can beat him.
Kaido was a brat at Rock's time. He prolly got bamboozled if we go by the theory at hand.
Mihawk will never mention buggy as one of the people who can defeat him 💀
kaido only said people who could fight him, not defeat haha and he didnt include garp which def sus esp now.
but haha i think buggy cud fight mihawk and mihawk would actually have to exert himself considering buggy survived rogers ship + the fruit diff haha mihawk would win obviously. but haha kaido would win against oden right. i wonder if kaido would have put oden there if he didnt scar him.
Kaido wasn't in Rocks' inner circle. He was just an apprentice on the crew. So his view of Rocks would have been more akin to that of a random Impel Down escapee's view of Buggy.
kaido and sengoku said he was that guy, also none of those guys would follow someone like buggy so i think rocks could be like buggy but he's probably strong
probably strong but also just adding. mihawk and crocodile wudnt be following a man like buggy UNLESS I'm sure oda could add context to rocks to make it make sense for WB and the rest
@@Parvision- how do you explain when kaido compared luffy to rocks
@@aryankadian5276 The video says it, Kaido may have never actually seen him fight and just assumes him to be legend level, or otherwise there is a possibility that Buggy, while being a complete fraud will be able to display some legendary feats of strength at some point.
@@Parvision- we already know why Mihawk and Croc are working under Buggy
@@j3nki541 Those people are people who FOUGHT Kaido. I think God Valley was more or less a tragedy as opposed to a humiliation. Like something unspeakable happened there and no one wants to talk about it.
Buggy my man has everyone fooled by pretending to be a pushover just to get back at them when the moment is right.
What a legend! All hail pirate god Buggy!
I think why garp is the hero of the marines is because he chose to save the marines rather than the celestial dragons at god valley.
If Rocks was weak then why did kido mentioned him among the ones who could defeat him during his fight with LUFFY ...!
I dont think rocks necessarily had to be weak as we would describe it. maybe deceivingly strong. it wudnt be the first tikensomeones reputation makes a mockery of them. I mean think about how thyed describe buggy. a former crew of pirate king, brother of red haired shanks, warlord, and Yonko. you know of assume this man must have haki to rule over mihawk and WB. if law were to make a top 5 rn haha wudnt be surprised if buggy were there lolol but even that's weird right. but it cud be like rocks had some kind of power that gave kaido alot of trouble. like how mihawk cudnt do anything to buggy at marineford. theres like 9 different ways oda could take this preconception we have and turn it on us
Kaido was 15 when he joined the crew so he could be fooled
@@hydracollector3588so you think no one would even tell him about that ? Also in the road to laughtale he was said to be Rogers greatest rival above garp and wb why would oda lie to us
@@Vihaan8888 buggy almost killed Luffy in front of everyone in loguetown,in public eyes buggy is his greatest foe,no one reach that close to kill him. But we know the truth. That's why their crew don't talk about rocks.
He added oden but left out big mom who literally just stalemated with him hours ago
Haven't watched yet, but I think Rocks was definitely a strong af pirate. He was in Kaido's top 5, and it took both Roger and Garp to kill him. Right now I'm on board with the idea that Rocks was an absolute menace of his era, clearly a major threat to the WG, and caused enough turmoil in the world that he had to be erased from history. Even the mention of his name is something troubling to even the strongest marines and a lingering shadow in Kaido's mind.
If he were just some guy who threw money at some strong mfers, his name wouldn't be held with the notoriety that it is today.
Kaido's top 5 list lol 🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like Kaido out here power scaling like the rest of us haha
Watch the video to the end
@@oliwierszaagan7498 yeah I watched. It's an interesting idea, but I'm not entirely convinced. It's possible and I personally love the idea of Fraud D. Xebec, but it feels like we need more information before I'm on board with it.
@@Sin05269 to be fair you also need more info to just assume rocks was strong.
@@Ginglover9000 true
That the entire Rocks crew, Garp, Roger, his entire crew.... They all agreed with the Celestial Dragons and WG to not talk about Rocks or God Valley at all. That is amazing.
In my opinion Buggy is a Nefertari and Vivis uncle. I'm not actually joking. Buggy's vivre card says he was born in the grand line and none of the Roger flashbacks show them in Alabasta, even though Roger is confirmed to have taken basically the same route through Paradise as Luffy. I think Buggy is potentially a noble who didn't have a path to the throne so he left on a pirate ship.
Wasn't he a baby when he was on Rogers ship
@@AsadAyub-kx9xwno, he's said to have been born on the grand line. Shanks was a baby, but Buggy may have joined later.
And his hair is blue like vivi, and he uses makeup to cover up his face as a "joker" 😐
if that were the case he would either have to be cobra's younger brother or a cousin or something. But he never reacted in any way to the news of Cobra dying. When with Vivi missing he could just go there and take over saying it was his right. So i think that one is a no.
@@zeromagnum2811 i think he's nefertari titi's brother.
I want to mention that they said “a sailor named Garp” impliying that he was kinda a no name at the time therefore making the news report CAPP almost like a reverse Smoker situation
What if...
Rocks had the Noro Noro no mi and was kind of like Foxy personality wise, which would add to the whole nobody wanting to remember Rocks like the fandom likes to forget about Foxy. Except for Blackbeard who grew up wanting to be like the pirate who was portrayed in the papers. 😆
exactly!
theres so many ways to explain it
Fox D. Xebec
What if Rocks awakened the Noro Noro no mi and slowed the world to timeskip himself to the future? But there's Foxy's fruit so...
Well, Big Mom did call him "a good-for-nothing" in Kaidou's flashback in chapter 1041.
exactly. I included a panel, but idk why that just reminded me of foxy like foxy is a good for nothing
@@Parvision- it would be a cool parallel between them since it's implied rocks used the Davy back fights to form his crew too. I had been pushing for a long time that Rocks' devil fruit was the awakened noro noro no mi, which at that point would just be The World from jojos
The entire strawhat have called luffy good for nothing lol they constantly beat him does that mean he is weak?
It’s always a great day when Par shares his vision with us all! Watching your video has me second guessing if rocks was a powerful character or used the davey back fight to obtain these strong fighters in order to reach his goal of becoming king of the world. As we know the Davy back fight doesn’t have to be a brawl. It could include games which rocks had an advantage in just like foxy had an advantage against the strawhats in a lot of the games. Loved the connection you made with rocks being roger’s first foe and buggy being luffy’s. Could see this theory being the truth or very close. Rocks might just have had the power to make enemies into friends just as Luffy and buggy both have
EXACTLY! thank you yes. the option is completely valid and there, and i have no doubt in my mind that oda can execute on that really well imo
Rocks can be strong, but maybe not like the legends haha. If we get a flashback and roger is memeing on rocks like luffy is when law says buggy is strong, i will be dying of laughter haha but yeah at the same time buggy is actually decently strong, just not top 30 for the verse kind of strong atleas tnot yet
@@Parvision- The theory falls apart because Kaido thinks of him as strong. Kaido isn't going to consider someone playing games and using cheap tricks as strong, he has little respect for dishonorable combat. Buggy fools people who have no clue, but he isn't fooling people who actually have real ability, Crocodile/Mihawk look at him like a bug. The world could maybe be fooled as far as Rock's supposed strength, but people like Kaido aren't going to be fooled by that.
I think that Oda has recycled an idea he originally had for Moriah which is that Xebec is a pastor and used his oratory skills to gain the crew and believed that his apprentice Kaido was the next Joyboy
4:39 You can say the same about Luffy beating Crocodile. Luffy was still a rookie who beat a warlord in 1st year as a pirate
but I dont think crocodile and baroque works had the notoriety of rocks pirates. so yes its an upset but the levels of an upset that a single rookie marine took down this nefarious captain and 3 of the Yonko who were not like weak. big mom solod giants at 5, and kaido was out destroying kingdoms at 10 or w.e so by the time god valley comes around, they were monsters for sure.
There’s no doubt the Roger pirates also fought at god valley, Rayleigh and scopper were there to find shanks with Roger, and Oda drew the ship leaving but never finished the sketch. It’s like thinking luffy would leave his crew during his greatest battle to defeat an entire enemy crew alone but with one strong marine at his side. It’s far fetched and makes no sense.
Exactly i agree, and i feel like the rogers pirates probably did Most of the winning there.
like if you think of it like this right in the imagery of god valley, it was a bunch of civilians. even PTS buggy could have wreaked havoc like that lmao luffys crew could stop them and more. im just imagining there had to be some kind of complication with the world government which is why they chose to hide details, spin the news, and things like that. but its less so about rocks and more so about hte location and the place. if it werent why delete it. and rocks was just a victim of being associated with it. but also they did say they were there for a big score, so wonder what thats about haha
@@Parvision- yeah I mean we know there were also celestial dragons there so who knows why, makes you wonder why Roger would help the government in the first place they aren’t good ppl they condone slave trade and just want to control the world. If the propaganda is true then rocks wanted to take imus place in a sense. Roger may not know about imu though idk.
I have the feeling that the series is plotting a big, big laugh at the end. Like Kinemon's "plan".
Give thanks Par! I was feeling extremely abnormal for seeing the parallels between Buggy's failing up and Rocks's cloudy history. The way Oda draws each of them with open demon smiles and their company defining them (buggy and xebec) instead of their feats was my clues to how Oda might be showing the cycles of history when the masses are kept ignorant. (I wonder if Xebec is a version of Xeper,/Khepera the self created (characterized by scarab/beetle) who said "I am" and all things sprung into being including Ptah the fashioner (later Greek Vulcan and Roman mars) Tehuti the scibe,judge (Greek gnosis) before the first ta Merian/Kemetan/'ancient egyptian' dynasties over 30,000 years ago. Real life void MILLENIA!!!
I love that we're sharing the same sentiments about Rocks! Always loving the videos 🤘🏻
Buggy D. Xebec has a nice ring to it. I love all the buggy and rocks connections and I can see rocks being a buggy character. I would love to see that happen and I hope Oda takes inspiration from Pirate King Buggy. Buggy gang!
Buggy 4 Pirate King!!
Maybe it does but technically it would have to be Rocks D. Buggy
Rocks D. Buggy
@@oliwierszaagan7498 Nah its gotta be Buggy D Xebec xd
@@rabbithead1412 but that's not how Names work in One Piece.
The way big mom says "big trouble" and "were going to god valley" in kaidos backstory sounds like their crew was split up. Maybe thats why they don't like to talk about it, because the fight already started and they were too late for it
funny theory but i really think that whitebeard big mom and kaido would have been able to tell if rocks was strong for real or just a fraud. buggy fooled a lot of people but they were wackies. strong people in one piece can always determine if somebody is strong for real or not by their presence/aura alone
no I think whitebeard and shiki know. it might be the same reason mihawk and crocodile are under buggy.
Mihawk and croco boy knows buggy's fraud and yet follow him. The same could apply on rocks crew. The only one who has the illusion of rocks being strong is kaido who was just a kid under him
Xebex is kinda one of the first big pirates we have heard of that have gotten close to a true death as described by Hiruluk. Blackbeard is basically the only person that may possibly carrying on his dream and actively keeping him in his thoughts.
Rocks was just the original Buggy and when the truth came out all the power houses were so embarrassed they just don’t talk about it.
Honestly I think Rocks might’ve drowned from having a devil fruit. That’d be a pretty embarrassing way to go out
One huge problem dude: Kaido's top 5. Rocks is in there, and unlike the WG that can spin narratives or the average person, who only sees reputation, Kaido only sees strength, pure and simple, thats the foundation of his very character. Now, I absolutely agree that the Rocks pirates were probably formed through a davy back fight and thats probably the reason why they were all embarassed and not loyal to each other, but davy back fights are especifially a contest amongst pirates to get crewmates, so it makes no sense for Garp to take part on it or for Rocks start one of those at an island controlled by the WG, so his wounds were most likely because of an actual battle, and if we use Arabasta as a parallel like you did that would mean Garp couldnt do anything against Rocks and had to rely on Roger
when Kaido dealt with rocks or experienced rocks, it was when he was 15. most of the new world would have whooped 15 year old luffy with just haki. but what kaido says specifically is these 5 people are capable of fighting kaido. But behind that wording is alot of nuance. like Enel would say anyone with luffy's power would be amongst people capable of beating him after experiencing rubber. but i wonder if theres a power or ability that rocks could have had that would have made it really difficult for a 15 year old kaido to even fight him or win. Could it be similar to how Buggy is "nearly" impervious to the worlds strongest swordsman? I wonder if Mihawk would say theres only a few people that can fight him and include buggy because he cant cut buggy. i wouldnt be surprised if rocks had some annoying ass power that made him difficult to fight, especially against blunt force damage. a few come to mind.
and i agree with you on the end part about the weirdness of garp being involved in the davy back fight, when i connected the pose, that was one of my concerns as well, but i dont want to dismiss the possible parallel available there. like if garp and koby are parallels, then is captain morgan arc a parallel here too. like how koby was working with luffy, but because of the recognized evil of the marines there, it was understood why koby was working with luffy and appreciated that morgans was taken down, and so thereafter koby's "crimes" of working with Luffy were covered up and ignored. but still davy back part is weird right? its almost like if aokiji interuppted the lrll davy back fight. maybe garp shows up after, i think at the minimum davy back fights are involved with rocks, but yeah to what extent.
This was a solid SOLID breakdown. I always had a feeling we were getting the wrong impression of Rocks. However this. Details perfectly how this could play out.
Dollar store version of the Rocks crew….
I instantly thought of the “we have _____at home” meme 🤣🤣🤣
LMAO hahaa if someone tried to serve me up blackbeards crew instead of rocks, id be mad.
I'd also like to add, I think Buggy is a "special race." He did say a couple times that his big red nose is real. This is a stretch but what if Rocks has a red nose too? We all know we can't go by the silhouettes. Green Bulls silhouette looked like Spandam. And Kaido and Big Moms silhouettes looked like Alvidas twin brothers.
gteenbulls silhouette did not look like spandem 🤣🤣🤣🤣 hahha I gotta double check now. but also yeah I've contemplated the red nose thing. would think it's weird if whitebeard didnt recognize it tho lol but also yeah 100% think buggy is special race. you shud check out that buggy special race video I mentioned at the end haha its thumbnail is buggy in gear 5 lolol
@Parvision I watched it already, I totally forget. You're probley the reason this is my head Canon lol
As soon as I saw the thumbnail, I thought “oh my god. WHY DOES THAT PARALLEL WORKS SO WELL?!?!” Great video Par!
I disagree with Rocks being compared to Buggy because we know Kaido only respects people because of strength. Kaido wouldn’t have joined the Rocks if he didn’t respect Xebec’s strength as a superior and he wouldn’t have compared Xebec to Luffy, Shanks, Roger, Whitebeard and Oden if he was weak and a fraud
Do we know how he joined tho? he was also at the age of 15, yes he was strong. but 15 year old luffy could get punk'd by most of the new world right? on top of that theres more nuance to joining a pirate crew right?
the reason why kaido has a strength merit based system now, might be because rocks didn't have that.
but how many times do we see people following others because of a dream.
if kaido at 15 escaped navy 15 times and then also hated the celestials and world government or atleast didnt want to be their pawn. well we see whitebeard and big mom doing much of the same. you can group these monsters by a common goal, so would it be weird for a 15 year old kaido to follow a band of pirates that were stronger than him, and the captain was shielded by whether it be respect, an illusion, or a plethora of other reasons, then yeah i could see kaido doing that.
THat could be why kaido was called a rat by big mom, could be why big mom said rocks wasnt reliable and if kaido needed anything to go to her.
The other part of it is yes kaido is a man respects pure strength, that is the kaido now. after god valley, years after. what was he like before. The thing about strength is it comes in so many shapes and sizes.
if rock's strength was buggy's strength, which mihawk said is the most formidable power of the seas, to get allies.
then Rock's power was able to get a bunch of conquerors to band underneath his name. where as even with all the strength kaido has, he could not do even close to the same where his right hand doesnt even have conquerors.
but the overall point being when you said kaido wouldn't have joined the rocks if he didnt respect xebecs strength.
Did kaido respect the vodka king's strength, fighting underneath him for however long? he was 15 going at the world, and then comes along whitebeard who would definitely slam kaido at that time, and this super strong dude tells you to work under a man because he will give you the proper direction to fight the world government, yeah i can def see multiple ways kaido joins, and then later reflects about why it wasnt great.
now as to why he would compare him to luffy, shanks, roger, whitebeard and oden. i think the nuance is there like hey he didnt put akainu, garp, or BIG MOM in that list? if kaido couldnt beat rocks, maybe there was a reason, albeit a ridiculous one, that kaido saw rocks in that way. but that same reason would lead all of the monsters on rocks to follow him in the first place. it could be that rocks had good haki and whooped 15 year old kaido, sure. but again any haki would have whooped 15 year old luffy. It could be that rocks had a crazy devil fruit that allowed him to get hits on kaido, in a way that he cudnt defend. but i do agree theres a reason why blackbeard parallels rocks on the surface, and i have to think that its because its a mix between blackbeard and buggy to some extent.
@@Parvision- Disagree first of all what does Rocks being a fraud ads any weight to the story? In fact it does the opposite. Kaido is not a fool he’s not going to judge someone’s strength just by looking at them those top 5 are people that he actually fought and respect the fact that he never said anything Good about Rocks meaning that he doesn’t respect his character but still respects his strengths even after reaching his primes means a lot.
when u look at the God Valley panel Rocks is the one standing infront of his crew against Roger and Garp Buggy don’t have that type of energy
@@Parvision- If Whitebeard can tell Buggy is a fraud don’t why he wouldn’t be able to do the same with Rocks
@@abdulrisark4782 he was a kid
@@achrafmaaden6263 was is the keyword 😂
Would be interesting to see if this is true about Rocks, he truly had epic charisma to get future yonkos to follow him
I think the marine’s portrayal of Rocks is a better approach imo
The only thing that holds me back on fully believing in it is that Kaido put him on the same level of other legends. I think that's the hardest part to explain since I'm pretty sure Kaido wouldn't be that stupid. And why would he remember Rocks specifically in that part if they don't want to talk about him for being a fraud to begin with? Anyways... great point of view, and I can see that happening, but Oda needs to explain that Kaido part convincingly.
Perhaps it wasn't destroyed by a beam, but sucked into the Darkness-Darkness fruit (meaning that, if viewed in shadow it may appear, like an inverse of a mirage; alternatively, maybe Blackbeard could go there to either release the island or otherwise access it).
people are imagining god valley fight to be the most epic fight in one piece meanwhile it was a dodgeball game that garp and roger won haha !
Kaido saw him when luffy hit him with ryo haki. He has to be strong, it was because of luffy's haki Kaido was reminded of him.
How could rock even stand in the middle of 3 conqueror haki user ?
You can't bluff your haki and its in this context that kaido taught of Rocks.
Only that, the fact that blackbeard is so closely connected to rocks and he has the D initial mean he was the real deal otherwise it makes it all pointless ifbhe was another buggy...and buggy is only funny because is a one off and sengoku made it clear himself fhat rocks was garp and rogers strongest opp garos isnt the type to take credit for something like that nir would the government try to cover it up when they could fluant it to make it themselves look stronger
Great reasons, however, Reasons (considered together) why this is failure:
1) kaido put rocks as one of the greatest pirates
2) any attack on celestial dragons has to be muted in order to discourage the inspiration of rebellions
3) if the info was successfully kept from big news Morgans, as they almost did recently and as was almost done with luffy's picture, then no one would know
1. he put him as one of the greatest pirates? oden was there, oden was more of a passenger tbf, but also thats not what he said at all. community put on implications like that and top 5 or strongest, etc. but it just says people who can fight/hurt kaido from his experience.
2/3. in the chapter it literally says, the NEWS reported the god valley incident which included the rocks pirates.
im not saying that the news didnt scuff the details, on the contrary, im saying the news changed the information, and then sengoku regurgitating it changes the information even more. So whatever we are getting from sengoku is not even 2nd hand information, its like 3rd hand rumors that he is also redacting because he isnt just telling them everything im sure. he is just saying what fits the agenda that the rocks were bad.
and to address the overall thing is yes, it was muted or redacted, but like sengoku said, rocks was KNOWN because of god valley primarily. and im addressing the part of the community that believes Rocks was ERASED (like the void century) like God valley was, but thats not what happened to either really. time was the factor in their erasure, unlike void century where we dont have records of it. and some people believed this implication and applied it to lulusia believeing that laser beam erased memories as well, when it doesnt make sense in either case. but also cycling that back and saying rocks and god valley were erased, but if rocks was defeated and they lulusia'd god valley, then they wouldnt have done it in front of all the spectators implying it was done after everyone left. UNLESS they used a different means, which is the implication i did apply though considering in the story its the only island eraser we know of canonically besides "ohara" and "knock up stream" and i added knock up stream cuz of the noland video i made, which sort of predicted a lulusia event, which is interesting cuz that would mean that there many ways to erase a place under the world governments umbrella. but yeah
responded like this cuz i like the way you commented :)
Buggy be the modern Rocks, Buggy D. Clown carryin the WILL of Rocks D. Xebec
I could see buggy recruiting weevil to have "white beard"underneath him, and weevil is stupid enough to do anything buggy wants, also fits the rocks dynamic.
Since history is based on perceptions, do you think there is a lot of false perceptions about the Rocky Port Incident within the One Piece world?
its definitely possible esp since didnt BB say koby helped him?
@@Parvision- he helped him by defeating the ruler of pirate island so he could take over
Rocks D 🤡 Xebec!? Gotta say I was smiling ear to ear the entire last half of this video.
ive BEEN thinking that Rocks is a Buggy-esque character, glad to see this getting discussed
rocks being a troll would be epic, good call
I’ve been waiting for a good God valley vid 🙏🔥
10:02 - Well...... seeing what happened to Lulusia hoping Imu doesn't have some Rinnegan like ability. A whole island destroyed ??! That is something else.
something of note is that in film red, they implied roger found shanks in a chest in god valley, which could make him potentially rocks’ kid. and who calls himself his brother? buggy.
buggy inherited rocks’ will and shanks, son of rocks, strayed from it. much like how luffy, inherited roger’s will and ace, his brother and son of roger, strayed from it completely.
so many connections to be made from this theory, and i’m feeling like it’s gonna be true.
Shanks is definitely a celestial dragon
You got me fucked up while high. I actually saw the PaRvIsOn
damn the vision manifested LOL i swear oda gonna troll us
Now that you mention too seeing that picture of buddy he looks like the silhouette of rocks lol
This one is a certified banger
I love this so much! I always was a fan of Rocks is like Buggy and it would foreshadow Buggy become the pirate king before even luffy! Love this, love ur vids, it's always a celebration to watch ur vids!
> The reason the Crossguild is holding together, is because Mihawk and Crocodile agreed on a plan.
> The Rocks pirates' biggest flaw is their lack of agreement.
---> Totally different scenarios: Rocks pirates were held together by the actual strength of Rocks D Xebec. the scenario of him being a fraud is impossible.
where does it say that rocks pirates were held together by the actual strength of rocks D Xebec?
Big mom said he wasnt trustworthy and a scoundrel. already sounds like rocks plays shenanigans, especially on a young 15 year old kaido.
i think whats gonna break most people is however irrational it is, honor is held so highly, and the davy back fights which originate from rocks' pirate island shames pirates for much of what seems to have happened within the rocks pirates. the introduction line, its a way for sailors to get the strongest sailors, and the rocks pirates is an example of that. and most importantly, breaking from any of the rules of a davy back fight, makes you dishonorable. so did kaido break that rule and big mom called him a rat for it? lol
while im not saying youre wrong, im just saying its not impossible like youre saying
I really like the theory that what really happened in god valley was a davy back fight. It would explain why they never talk about what happened
Bingo! For some reason I always imagined rocks to be the buggy of his time, and buggy to be his son.
THIS MAY BE THE BEST PARVISION EVER!!!!!
If mihawk is a sword
Then how did vegapunk clone him into a seraphim
Could this mean swords have lineage factors? 🔥
LMAOOO if you commented this in other places and i didnt respond mb, but the idea would be that if something could manifest a human, then its willpower was strong enought o make it human. When something is alive, it has lineage factor. from plants to dragons and everything in between has lineage factor. Inanimate objects can have a spirit in one piece, but for that object to truly be alive, it would probably have a soul, shadow, most importantly memories. and memories is what ties back to lineage factors. we see with jinbei seraphim, its lineage factor provides fighting memories. so basically the precipice of many of these concepts could come to fruition through swords as they are still garnered as one of the most important tools in one piece. and so a sword that becomes alive might yes have a lineage factor if it is sentient enough to be a person especially then.
Ya know what Rocks being the buggy of his generation and not the BB would be very funny
Shiki flew God Valley away 😂 btw when you started talking about the comparison between Garp hero of the marines at god valley and Luffy at Arabasta I was pumping my arms in the air because I believe your on to the truth!
Holy shit, this is brilliant!
You’ve 100% sold me on this, I am completely on board this train now LMAO
Rocks had the luck luck fruit and gather powerful pirates to join his crew threw Davey back fights
He’s used this tactic against Garp and roger at god valley but Roger haki conquers all even a broken devil fruit which kaido retains to this day
I think we are getting lost in that strength is the only thing required to be a pirate. I agree with your points. Buggy is definitely not strong but he is lucky and has brains
Maaaan. Been waiting for a long material for so long, I enjoy the shorts very much but those are my favourite. I understand you're busy with your life but i'm just always eager to watch your material, it's just that I watched every one there is.
oh yeah no worries I got s bunch of videos locked and loaded Haha just upgrading my editing style and such, so my videos are more digestible by everyoje
I believe that currently we know of two Xebec clones existing out in the world
1. Roche Thomson a LV 5 inmate alluded to on Vice-Warden Hannayabal's list as they are both based off the same historical pirate Roche Brazilanio which is consistent with the naming scheme of Stussy and Ms. Bakkin
2. Rockstar of the Red Haired crew mentioning he was a big player back in the day when visiting Whitebeard which in my view is referencing his famous past.
I firmly believe kaido had to fight rocks personally and that he is strong.
I could definitely see that. i just wonder if theres a way for oda to have a fight that's unfair or twists the narrative. foxy fought luffy to a bloodied ending but we know foxy isnt strong like that. are there devil fruits that would make it difficult for a pre devil fruit kaido. are there ways to bluff haki? while its difficult to say I can think of one, that would explains rocks fully. i do know that buggy did overcome the worlds strongest swordsman. and to the world that would be announced as "worlds strongest swordsman cannot beat buggy." and I wouldnt put it past ods to double down on that
I definitely love the concept of the davy back fights coming back in a big way
everything sounds good but it would be better if buggy's name is revealed to be Buggy D Clown lol
Leggo par! We hype! The visionary crew is strong!
After 1079, the reason everyone is embarrassed about it is because baby shanks knocked everyone out with his conquerors haki baby cry
Dude just your thumbnail painted the picture of your theory so well 🔥
I refuse to Believe Oda is going to make Rocks a Meme 🤣 Wouldn't be surprising and it would make sense BUT it would be sooooo disappointing .
parvision is the only one piece theorist i will let cook
It would be pretty cool to see Rocks as someone who got to where he got to with just charisma and words! Great vid Par!
Need that God valley flashback more than ever! Rocks will prove you wrong
Shanks and Buggy are Brothers. Both are the sons of Rocks. My prediction
L take
I don't wanna watch a video where it feels like I'm talking to my therapist
First video of yours I’ve seen but I know Rogersbase holds you in high regard so I figured it would be worth checking out. Gained a new fan for sure, subbed as soon as the vid was over!
🙏🏼 ayyy I'm glad you enjoyed this one! always love rogerbases crew haha appreciate you
14:11 Garp didn't want become admiral because he don't want to be be celestial dragons puppet
Rock was top 5 in Kaido list
prof turo back at it again
I only saw the thumbnail and thought "nah bro. Oda wouldn't....do....th................. oh shit"
LMAOOOO IT MAKES SENSE!!!! the image is powerful
Wonder if people actually realize just how much One Piece relates to the real world.
I say its 50/50. lol half the people do and half the people REALLY dont
Rocks D. Xebec related to Wet-Haired Caribou! lol
This light beam thing got me wondering… is ennies lobby the location of a previously “erased” island. And the eternal sunlight is because its “erased” even the atmosphere above it?
How the heck have I just let a man talk me into seeing parallels between Buggy D Clown and Rocks D Xebec.
LMAO its uncanny!
Mihawk said himself about Luffy that the strongest power on the seas is the power to bring people together and, no matter how he did it, Rocks brought Conquerors together. That right there makes him Top 5. No one else that we know of has done that. So for everyone saying Rocks had to be strong, he literally couldve just had Conquerors, a DF, and the Will to lead
Well as Robin said, those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it, maybe something will happen with Luffy that will leave only Robin to stop him.
Rocks smile is just like Buggys
So you're telling me that Buggy will be forgotten in the future just like Rocks was? That would be something to see
I think the only thing potentialy going against this is Kaido viewing Rocks with some level of respect - indicating the power of Rocks being high - When he says "There are few who are able to hurt me. Do you consider yourself amongst them?" And you see silhouettes of Rocks, Shanks, White Beard, Oden and Rodger. This strongly implies Rocks was no mere chump lol
I agree, your comment btw was my favorite worded version of this comment and all I gotta say is I got an amazing video to address that point I actually just laid down the foundation for it haha but hopefully more eyes get to this one before then
I thought you were going to say Rocks having those Yonko on his crew proves that he has the “greatest talent of all” which Mihawk said Luffy has during Marineford which was the talent of bringing people to his side.
I think the fact White Beard wanted a family for his crew, and Big Mom had a crew made up of her family tells me Rocks treated his crew badly - maybe like a worse version of Kaido who only accepted the strongest
Beautiful!!! I am starting to see a physical resemblance between Rocks and Buggy(and even Foxy ), the manic smile, the wild hair....
Great videos man, love all the references. Very on point🎉
What if the Law that Rocks broke was falling in love and having a child by a Celestial Dragon… Shanks being that child. I could see the gorosei ordering the navy to stop the birth of that child for various reasons.
I one year Par is gonna turn into a weekly chapter review channel with sponsored nothing burger theory videos.
nah nah discussion channel and reflection channel. i like doing analysis more than anything haha
wait was this nothing burger? lots of people liked it haha
@@Parvision- I meant the other channels that I followed for videos like this stopped doing them and now they do lazy "theory" videos about nothing for sponsor money.
Rocks’ silhouette was in Kaido’s top 5 when he asked how far will Luffy’s ceiling go. The whole part of the video calling Rocks weak can be skipped.
I believe that Rock's is a clown and that Buggy is his son, we have yet figure out how Roger found Buggy,I believe that White Beard would not mention his scar to Shanks so openly, I also believe that Rocks is in Davy Jones locker
Brought up alot of great point but I will say if rocks is just another buggy we will see another influx of simp the likes of which the world has never seen... the buggy stans will go wild 😂😂😂
isnt hime one? LOL she commented like one on my buggy tiktok.
lmfao when oda inevitably reveals this, I'm almost sold half of it will be troll af lolol