The moral of the story is ‘The Power of Friendship’ can be written in two ways… The first is the corny, asspull, ‘Motivational PoF’; where you get a power up from it. The second is the realistic, meaningful way, Rocks; where not having it means getting jumped by groups of people who do
Rocks didn't have the power of friendship which is why he lost. Not in a corny way he literally had a crew with no friends so they got separated and picked off by garp and Roger who could work together
Exactly, it's been meme'd to death that the "power of friendship" is this broken power up in anime whenever the author needs it but no honestly, to be an effective pirate crew you NEED to work together. The ROCKS Pirates, despite their overwhelming power, could not reach their full potential under ROCKS
@@Tekking101 well sometimes it gets annoying like on fairy tail but one piece does it correctly by it not being the direct power up but instead the drive to get stronger because you have friends to protect Zoro with mihawk bowing. Luffy stopping his journey to train. The list goes on Roxs meanwhile we hear they aren't friends and teamwork goes the extra mile and garp and Roger working together probably made the difference
@@ivanbluecool ehh in my opinion fairy tail also uses friendship as a drive for character to get stronger as well but it does get corny sometimes so I understand why you think it’s annoying especially when it’s the main thing the series likes to shove down your throat nearly every episode/chapter lol
@@xmesman9844 no in fairy tail it's awful for the simple fact it's the drive that gives the power as a plot device not the drive to get stronger. Natsu and Erza do it ever fight as when they yell nakama they suddenly win a losing situation where the enemy blocks their powers and has them one hit away from dying only to flip it immediately with no hesitation. I mean take Zoro and taking the pain for Luffy. The journey shows how much Zoro believes in Luffy to give up his own dream. That's a risk. Same with bowing to mihawk the one he wants to surpass. Those are stakes and growth letting go of your pride for a friend.
@@Tekking101which is funny because most Pirate groups, even if their leader doesnt treat them right stayed together and worked well enough with eachother, which just proves how much of a failure ROCKS was a Captain
I saw the theory that Rocks was the 'Buggy' of his era that every former member of his crew is ashamed to talk about. That would honestly be the greatest twist in history.
Definitely the greatest twist in history, your theory is the most creative I have ever read, all the other are pretty obvious and that’s why I’m sure they won’t happen.
I wonder if Roger basically represents the original ‘Peace Mains’ idea and Rocks is gonna be the quintessential ‘Morgania’. Instead of fully scrapping the idea, Rocks and Roger metaphorically made two types of pirates with their crews for generations to come
I don't expect it to be that clear-cut. One of the benefits of dropping these labels is that most pirates can fall somewhere in between. Roger hurt many people with his actions (even if only indirectly for the most part) and that darker side to his journey is a big appeal of his character because it prevents him from being just "Luffy before Luffy".
I mean if you really want an indictment of Rocks... NONE of his former crewmates talk fondly of their captain... they are affably to each other but Rock's barely gets a mention. There is no Rayleigh wistfully breaking into tears remembering his first meeting with Roger. Rocks is the embodiment of FUCK THAT GUY
He is likely a much more sober type of evil. It is heavily implied he created the Davy back fight specifically for his scheme, so it was pretty calculated.
@@bennett4789 Nope. It is Foxy who tells us the history of the davy back fight, and it is literally the story of Rocks gathering his crew we get from Garp but from somebody who doesnt know the name Rocks. So, the two options are either Rocks invented it on pirate island or he went to pirate island and copied the legend.
Whitebeard chose found family, with loyalty and protection of those who were close to them. Big mom chose literal blood, family bonds and arranged marriages. Kaido chose subjugation and breaking the wills of those who resisted. None of them wanted to follow Rocks' way
@@eavyeavy2864he had to had more than strength to be able to inlist 4+ future yonko level characters with strong conquerors haki, most likely the same charisma and luck that luffy and Blackbeard have,in a much more twisted way than luffy obviously.
I have said it before but I think Captain John's treasure was what he took from the other Rocks Pirates as he fled from God Valley instead of fighting along his crewmates. Maybe Kaido or Whitebeard or Big Mom or another member of Rocks crew viewed John as a traitor and killed him. The Rocks Pirates we see as Yonko years later all had that pirate code we see in other Pirates while those we haven't seen all fell due to their infighting and selfishness.
Don't we see him with a bunch of little swords in him at thriller bark? That doesn't seem like the way they would do it besides he was Captain John meaning he had his own crew
No matter how Oda plays it, I want Xebec to be the one that took both Garp and Roger closest to death. I mean, can you imagine just those three going full force at one another - like watching a nuke go off in yo face
It's still pretty crazy that none of the Rocks crew members didnt unite with one another after the disbandment. Just from the marines reaction alone of big mom and Kaido joining up they would've been a force to be reckoned with.This a testament of how much they hate each other lol.
The way you describe Rocks being insane to the point where the crew just left him as he dove headfirst into his last battle reminded me of Teldryn Sero in Skyrim and the story of his previous employer!
Rocks was so tough that he killed a pack of sea kings WITH HIS BARE FIST to protect a young black beard!!! The sea kings made him lose his leg and arm Rocks died of blood loss on beehive island!!!! Black beard buried him on that island rocks had bad luck. Not only did he fail at God Valley and lost his crew, but he had amnesia for 10 years after God valley!!! Even whitebeard couldn't believe that Monster was still alive he had rocks vivre card!!! Rocks named teach after the famous Marshall pirates who got executed for stealing fruits!!!
Tekking, I didnt even think about it but perospero was alive and old enough to remeber god valley. Big mom had hin when she was 18, She was 30 when god valley happened.
I always assumed when garp was explaining the fight against rocks that it was a 2 v 1. All their crews probably did fight it out but in my head i always it garp and roger focused solely on rocks
It's kinda funny in a way. 40 years ago, the ultimate Pure Power vs Power of Friendship was put to the test, and selfish but overwhelming might lost. This lesson was passed on to Shanks, who passed it on to Luffy. And ever since Luffy started his adventure, he has never put any value in power over friendship. And becausr of this, he has time and time again triumphed over people who haven't learned this lesson.
I find it an important detail is how much respect and honor guys like Roger, Rayleigh, Garp and Sengoku had for Whitebeard. It’s almost feels not everyone mutiny and Whitebeard might of joined with Roger and Garp and maybe fought Kaido and Big Mom or some other member. It probably was it’s own arc with every important character having a fight and in the end the Rocks pirates losing.
I’m going to give a brief explanation of my theory on how Whitebeard’s perspective on being a pirate changed at god valley: I’d imagine that Whitebeard still viewed the Rocks pirates as family , but from the perspective of a son. I think it would be interesting if he was sort’ve similar to Weevil or Katakuri. It would be interesting if he was the loyal family member being used by the chaotic family members, who as a son he would not stand up to. I imagine that in the heat of God Valley, someone like Wang Zhi grabs Rocks by the shoulder begging him to have the crew retreat, and Rocks just cuts and kills Wang Zhi for interrupting his fight and continues to laugh and battle. This is where Whitebeard sees that the ‘father’ in the family he is in does not have any morals, making him abide by the pirate code and providing a structure for his future crew. In a last ditch effort of escape this is when Whitebeard yells for the crew to run, as he is the new father figure. Some of the crew still stay with Rocks, (Silver Axe, Shiki, etc) while the rest run or get injured and escape on their way out of God Valley leaving Xebec for dead. Rocks does not look back at his crew, too focused on the upcoming battle with the marine hero and future pirate king in front of him.
Teach's fight with Kuzan revealed why Whitebeard, Kaido and Big Mom joined the Rocks pirates. All pirates need is alignment of interest. Does not matter if they like each other or have had conflicts in the past. While Luffy has formed alliances with Bege and Law, he only recruits people he likes and wants to call his friend. The BB pirates are not friends, they are accomplices. The same could be theorised about the Rocks.
I flip flop between "Rox was stronger than prime Whitebeard" and "Rox was the old gen Buggy" basically every week at this point, and I still think it could go either way in the actual story.
I totally see whitebeard reacting to Roger and Garp coming exactly as Mihawk did as Shanks landed on Marineford : "didn't sign for this" and proceed casually walk away
Even if he’s defrosted in he’s peak right after god valley, he’ll probably be given a Whitebeard moment where it’ll be said he has a heart condition, he isn’t feeling well, he has rogers decease, Covid, and didn’t woke up feeling it that day like Whitebeard. Sometimes I wonder if Blackbeard is his botched clone or a random orphan given his soul.
Whitebeard has definitely gone through some character development during his pirate career but I can see a fairly simple reason for willing to a part of the Rocks Pirates: to amass wealth to send back to his home island. We know, during his time as a Yonko, that is exactly what he did so he might have started doing so then
I read a theory somewhere on Reddit and I can’t remember who said it … but the theory went that Rocks is Davy Jones because of how he sank with the Island … I forgot how it goes exactly but it was along those lines that Davy Jones and Rocks are the same person
All we know about Rocks is he probably had extremely powerful Conquerors Haki and probably a really Strong DF or maybe like Roger and Garp, he didn't have a Devil Fruit he was just that Strong.
@@GamerBoyDevin Theres also the potential for some technology fuckery given its an entirely erased incident. Maybe not one of the main weapons like pluton but void century shenanigans
I think that you don't get to have ppl like Kaido and Charlotte LinLin in YOUR crew if you don't have CoC aswell, and much stronger (at that time at least). Too much ambition to deal with if you yourself don't have an even bigger one, they would have never joined a captain weaker than them.
*My Theory on Positions on the Rocks Crew:* *Captain:* Rocks D. Xebec (His crew was named after him.) *First Mate:* Edward "Whitebeard" Newgate (He was the second most powerful person on the crew, so it fits.) *Helmsman:* Shiki the Golden Lion (The wheel on his head kind of gives it away.) *Head Chef:* "Gourmet Knight" Streusen (He probably was a member of the Rocks Pirates, and was probably the head chef.) *Sous Chef:* Charlotte "Big Mom" Linlin (She would definitely held Streusen with his cooking, due to her obsession with food.) *Navigator:* John (He has a compass that leads to his treasure, implying that he was a skilled navigator.) *Marksman:* Wang Zhi (His namesake introduced guns and canons to Asia, so it would be fitting if he were a marksman.) *Shipwright:* Silver Axe (He's honestly the only one who would fit that role, because he'd probably be similar to Franky in some way.) *Doctor:* Buckingham Stussy (By process of elimination, she would honestly fit the best as the ship's doctor, which is kind of ironic since she's a vampire who sucks blood.) *Apprentice:* Kaido of the Beasts (It was stated in both the Manga and Anime that he was an apprentice on Rocks' ship, making him the lowest ranking member by far.)
My hand went into the air, palm up, with the excitement greater than that of finding the one piece. To begin to hear the great words from Tekking. My body then went limp when I head Ochoku. Im glad I got to let it out later.
Vulture fact going be fun. I don't think the turkey Vulture is a turkey that one day just said "man am so hungry I could eat a horse" than sees a dead horse "well I did not say it had to be fresh"
I think the reason why rocks might have wanted to become the king of the world would be because he somehow found out IMU sama existed, and he didnt want to be ruled by someone like that. just a theory
I really hope we get to see this man in his prime being a fucking menace. Also a small clue to his laughing style might be his name Xebec Xe can also be pronounced as Ze so his laughing style would be "Xeahahahahaha" Sound familiar? It should because it's the same as "zehahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha" Blackbeard connection
yey my head canon was brought up! Shaky was on the rocks crew 100% also brook's ship was covered in arrows in the flashback, so they either ran into kuja or into Shaky on rocks's crew
new tekking vid at 5am woooooo you're so appreciative of your fans tekking truly i mean you also think about how to make content for us all nighters and when to post it 🙏🥺😹
This is just a head cannon of mine. I think I know who was the first person to turn tail and run during God Valley. It was Captain John, and his legendary treasure was not really his. At first he was all gung-ho about it, but when Garp and Roger starts to gained the upper hand. Captain John realized that there's no way Xebec could win this battle. Him and a couple of other pirates, maybe even Wang cahoots together and left the battle scene on Rocks own ship. In order to get away faster, they dropped all the tether boat. Linlin and Kaido could have used one of the tether boat to make their get away. All the treasures that the Rocks' crew had accumulated throughout the years is still on the ship. John dropped Wang off at Hachinosu and gave him 20% of the treasures. John went and hid the treasures before his own crew turn mutiny on him. He hid the treasure map and the armband compass at different location.
I like to think of Rocks' crew like school. Your stuck there for several years, with loads of people you don't like, and you gotta act a certain way to survive. When you get the chance, you leave and never look back😂
Interesting theory (17:50-19:00). Combining that with the D-theory (2 D's for every generation one is the Dusk and one is the Dawn{from Parvision, I think}). Could we think that maybe Joyboy was actually the Dusk like Rocks, a D that brings darkness, and mirrors the Dawn in every way except in the bond of their crew. Some one with good intentions but failed to pick their Nakama carefully leading to a betrayal and the leaders of the "new world" being assigned after this incident that no one involved wants to bring up in detail. Just putting this together since it seems like Blackbeard's crew seems to be foreshadowing the same series of events.
Hi Tekking. Love the videos! My theory: You are spot on about the Rocks Pirates not working as a team. I bet at God Valley the Rocks Crew fought on their own, Shaky was probably injured but saved by Rayleigh, who knew she was not a bad person (Haki emotion sense or plain observation), resulting in them being a couple. They clashed several times before this. I bet Kaido just charged right in, being the beast he already was but waaay under prepared for Roger and Garp, so he lost quickly. Big mom, hating seeing children hurt (like we see from Otama) went to save him from his injuries by giving him his Devil fruit, which she had found at some point. Resulting in the life debt he owed her. They two then left the island, realizing the battle was lost. Whitebeard clashed with Roger as the always do as rivals and under his captains orders but when Stussy mark 1 try’s to jump in to help, she is taken out by Garp. This causes Whitebeard to jump to aid her, at which point Rocks tells him to leave her, as she is a weakling for falling to Garp. Whitebeard is enraged at this and states Rocks is not fit to be Captain and is not only losing the battle but his crew as well (aware of the retreat is Kaido and Big Mom, and Shakes defeat). Rocks takes this outburst as a sign of mutiny and attacks the surprised Whitebeard (who truly thought a Captain would not strike his first mate, naive as this was). This results in the massive scar on Whitebeard. (The one he tells Shanks during their meeting “Every time I see your face, it reminds me of the scar that bastard gave me.” Referring to Rocks, not Roger. From all the scenes we see with Roger and Whitebeard, we see them clash but no outward hostility in their eyes. This makes me think they are rivals testing each other and why they became friends of shorts. I don’t see Whitebeard calling Roger a bastard. Also he didn’t call Roger a bastard when talking to Ace his entire time. If anyone ahod remind him of “that bastards face” shouldn’t it be Ace, Rogers son and spitting image? That is why O think he was referring to Rocks. Now that leads me to the other theory. Shanks is in fact Rocks son. Because he reminds Whitebeard of the scar that bastard gave him. Shanks was also found at God Valley. Roger not blaming a child took shanks on his crew because he knew the marines would kill him, also why he later asked Garp to protect his unborn son and crimes of the father not carry to the son. Just my thoughts. No idea if you’ll see this but hope you do.
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Rocks was definitely the strongest pirate. The captain of the crew always is. Roger never won against the Rocks Pirates till that day at God Valley. Edit: We also know Garp use to hunt all pirates so I wonder how his interaction was with Rocks back in the day before God Valley.
For anyone looking to say “but Buggy!” Buggy is not the captain of the Cross Guild, but is rather more of a mascot. Crocodile and Mihawk seem to co-captain while using Buggy for his loyal men. edit: Cross Guild can barely even be considered a pirate crew, it’s more of an organization anyways (like the Revolutionary Army).
@@JagernauttTo be fair even if he doesn't have the title of captain he is the one cosidered Yonko out of the 3, that was clear. So the marines may as well think of him as the "captain" of the alliance. Said that clearly the marines also seem to think of Mihawk as the most dangerous power wise. Because he is not the yonko of the group but he has an even higher Bounty than the yonko...
A main point you didn’t mention regarding if the rocks crew acted as Nakama they may have won, whitebeard is known to have switched sides and helped fight against other rocks members p.s also that flashback where whitebeard in his younger years on a pirate ship (presumably rocks) saying his treasure was family, which is probably why he went against rocks at god valley, or at least he always wanted a family rather then changing his mind fully at god valley
I can see a timeline where Xebec really did fly too close to the sun as sengoku said. He might have been the Dragon of the era but in a heinous way causing not only the navy but pirates to battle his group. Maybe it wasn't just garp and roger vs rocks pirates, maybe the god knights were involved and they fought against kaido, whitebeard, big mom and the rest. So maybe the reason they don't like to talk about the events because they know a little too much and dont want to intervene with the celestials.
Oh god, Rocks is going to be Foxy's grandad isn't he? The God of the Davy Back Fight. It explains why that overpowered yet unstable crew came together and why they never, ever want to talk about it. I bet we'll learn that Rocks is slang for Dice too. His favorite game in the contest lol
“The code is more what you’d call guidelines than actual rules” I can totally see Rocks saying this. You can't organize a bunch of powerhouses with super egos without a set of rules. Here is my version of the Rocks Pirate Code: 1. Being a pirate is no joke. When you sail under the Jolly Roger, you mean it. 2. You are free to attack everyone as long as you keep in mind that they might fight back. 3. If you are challenged to a Davy Back Fight, you must accept the challenge. If you lose the Davy Back Fight, you must accept the consequences. 4. Once you've joined a crew, you cannot leave without the captain's permission. 5. If you disagree with someone, you can either talk about it or fight about it.
The moral of the story is ‘The Power of Friendship’ can be written in two ways…
The first is the corny, asspull, ‘Motivational PoF’; where you get a power up from it.
The second is the realistic, meaningful way, Rocks; where not having it means getting jumped by groups of people who do
And one piece has pulled off both well.
This is a great comment 😂 I like this version
Kingdom hearts and Persona does it
@@franciscorui OP never had the first one that's Naruto, Fairy tail and DB.
Rocks didn't have the power of friendship which is why he lost. Not in a corny way he literally had a crew with no friends so they got separated and picked off by garp and Roger who could work together
Exactly, it's been meme'd to death that the "power of friendship" is this broken power up in anime whenever the author needs it but no honestly, to be an effective pirate crew you NEED to work together. The ROCKS Pirates, despite their overwhelming power, could not reach their full potential under ROCKS
@@Tekking101 well sometimes it gets annoying like on fairy tail but one piece does it correctly by it not being the direct power up but instead the drive to get stronger because you have friends to protect
Zoro with mihawk bowing. Luffy stopping his journey to train. The list goes on
Roxs meanwhile we hear they aren't friends and teamwork goes the extra mile and garp and Roger working together probably made the difference
@@ivanbluecool ehh in my opinion fairy tail also uses friendship as a drive for character to get stronger as well but it does get corny sometimes so I understand why you think it’s annoying especially when it’s the main thing the series likes to shove down your throat nearly every episode/chapter lol
@@xmesman9844 no in fairy tail it's awful for the simple fact it's the drive that gives the power as a plot device not the drive to get stronger. Natsu and Erza do it ever fight as when they yell nakama they suddenly win a losing situation where the enemy blocks their powers and has them one hit away from dying only to flip it immediately with no hesitation.
I mean take Zoro and taking the pain for Luffy. The journey shows how much Zoro believes in Luffy to give up his own dream. That's a risk. Same with bowing to mihawk the one he wants to surpass. Those are stakes and growth letting go of your pride for a friend.
@@Tekking101which is funny because most Pirate groups, even if their leader doesnt treat them right stayed together and worked well enough with eachother, which just proves how much of a failure ROCKS was a Captain
I saw the theory that Rocks was the 'Buggy' of his era that every former member of his crew is ashamed to talk about. That would honestly be the greatest twist in history.
Kaido puts him in his top 5. He got rocked by Rocks.
that would be funny
Definitely the greatest twist in history, your theory is the most creative I have ever read, all the other are pretty obvious and that’s why I’m sure they won’t happen.
@@danieleliyahu3014 I think it’s paravisions theroy
@@Spinx3r remember when buggy almost kill luffy? yeah he is top 5 for sure people are not prepared for endgame buggy.
I wonder if Roger basically represents the original ‘Peace Mains’ idea and Rocks is gonna be the quintessential ‘Morgania’.
Instead of fully scrapping the idea, Rocks and Roger metaphorically made two types of pirates with their crews for generations to come
Oh definitely thats the case.
I don't expect it to be that clear-cut. One of the benefits of dropping these labels is that most pirates can fall somewhere in between. Roger hurt many people with his actions (even if only indirectly for the most part) and that darker side to his journey is a big appeal of his character because it prevents him from being just "Luffy before Luffy".
I mean if you really want an indictment of Rocks... NONE of his former crewmates talk fondly of their captain... they are affably to each other but Rock's barely gets a mention. There is no Rayleigh wistfully breaking into tears remembering his first meeting with Roger.
Rocks is the embodiment of FUCK THAT GUY
He is likely a much more sober type of evil. It is heavily implied he created the Davy back fight specifically for his scheme, so it was pretty calculated.
nah im pretty sure robin said davy jones invented the davy back fight hundreds of years ago
@@bennett4789 Nope. It is Foxy who tells us the history of the davy back fight, and it is literally the story of Rocks gathering his crew we get from Garp but from somebody who doesnt know the name Rocks. So, the two options are either Rocks invented it on pirate island or he went to pirate island and copied the legend.
Whitebeard chose found family, with loyalty and protection of those who were close to them. Big mom chose literal blood, family bonds and arranged marriages. Kaido chose subjugation and breaking the wills of those who resisted. None of them wanted to follow Rocks' way
Because they were all fodder just like you.
Tf is Rock's way
@@eavyeavy2864he had to had more than strength to be able to inlist 4+ future yonko level characters with strong conquerors haki, most likely the same charisma and luck that luffy and Blackbeard have,in a much more twisted way than luffy obviously.
I have said it before but I think Captain John's treasure was what he took from the other Rocks Pirates as he fled from God Valley instead of fighting along his crewmates. Maybe Kaido or Whitebeard or Big Mom or another member of Rocks crew viewed John as a traitor and killed him.
The Rocks Pirates we see as Yonko years later all had that pirate code we see in other Pirates while those we haven't seen all fell due to their infighting and selfishness.
That gives me hope that Shiki is still alive and will be in the story, he didn't betray anyone after all
Don't we see him with a bunch of little swords in him at thriller bark? That doesn't seem like the way they would do it besides he was Captain John meaning he had his own crew
No matter how Oda plays it, I want Xebec to be the one that took both Garp and Roger closest to death. I mean, can you imagine just those three going full force at one another - like watching a nuke go off in yo face
I mean even old garp threw kuzan into the ground so hard it looked like fujitora doing the gravity pit attack
And Kuzan fought akainu for 10 days straight. Garp is a beast tbh
It's still pretty crazy that none of the Rocks crew members didnt unite with one another after the disbandment. Just from the marines reaction alone of big mom and Kaido joining up they would've been a force to be reckoned with.This a testament of how much they hate each other lol.
You can't have several protagonists, I guess...
some of them had CoC, the ambition of a king, so not exactly the type of person who would join forces with other "kings".
@@deaconstjohn4842 Yeah that's true lol.
The way you describe Rocks being insane to the point where the crew just left him as he dove headfirst into his last battle reminded me of Teldryn Sero in Skyrim and the story of his previous employer!
Rocks was so tough that he killed a pack of sea kings WITH HIS BARE FIST to protect a young black beard!!! The sea kings made him lose his leg and arm Rocks died of blood loss on beehive island!!!! Black beard buried him on that island rocks had bad luck. Not only did he fail at God Valley and lost his crew, but he had amnesia for 10 years after God valley!!! Even whitebeard couldn't believe that Monster was still alive he had rocks vivre card!!! Rocks named teach after the famous Marshall pirates who got executed for stealing fruits!!!
Tekking, I didnt even think about it but perospero was alive and old enough to remeber god valley. Big mom had hin when she was 18, She was 30 when god valley happened.
I always assumed when garp was explaining the fight against rocks that it was a 2 v 1. All their crews probably did fight it out but in my head i always it garp and roger focused solely on rocks
At this point, i’ve forgotten when Tekking started the Wang Zhi scream
It's kinda funny in a way.
40 years ago, the ultimate Pure Power vs Power of Friendship was put to the test, and selfish but overwhelming might lost.
This lesson was passed on to Shanks, who passed it on to Luffy.
And ever since Luffy started his adventure, he has never put any value in power over friendship. And becausr of this, he has time and time again triumphed over people who haven't learned this lesson.
I find it an important detail is how much respect and honor guys like Roger, Rayleigh, Garp and Sengoku had for Whitebeard. It’s almost feels not everyone mutiny and Whitebeard might of joined with Roger and Garp and maybe fought Kaido and Big Mom or some other member. It probably was it’s own arc with every important character having a fight and in the end the Rocks pirates losing.
I would love a Rocks prequel.
I’m going to give a brief explanation of my theory on how Whitebeard’s perspective on being a pirate changed at god valley:
I’d imagine that Whitebeard still viewed the Rocks pirates as family , but from the perspective of a son. I think it would be interesting if he was sort’ve similar to Weevil or Katakuri. It would be interesting if he was the loyal family member being used by the chaotic family members, who as a son he would not stand up to. I imagine that in the heat of God Valley, someone like Wang Zhi grabs Rocks by the shoulder begging him to have the crew retreat, and Rocks just cuts and kills Wang Zhi for interrupting his fight and continues to laugh and battle. This is where Whitebeard sees that the ‘father’ in the family he is in does not have any morals, making him abide by the pirate code and providing a structure for his future crew. In a last ditch effort of escape this is when Whitebeard yells for the crew to run, as he is the new father figure. Some of the crew still stay with Rocks, (Silver Axe, Shiki, etc) while the rest run or get injured and escape on their way out of God Valley leaving Xebec for dead. Rocks does not look back at his crew, too focused on the upcoming battle with the marine hero and future pirate king in front of him.
rock pirates: Davy Jones ship from POTC
Roger Pirates: Captain Jack Sparrow's crew
I guess you could say Xebec's relationship with he's crew was........on the ROCK'S
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rocks was probably that strong he ruled his crew through fear.
Its simple really, he was "that guy"
He was "Him"
He was just "built differently"
He "had that dawg in him"
i thinks that somehow rocks got rewinded back into a kid at god valley and that where shanks came from
The idea of the heavy-hitters of Rocks crew noping out when faced by Garp, Roger and maybe their crews is hilarious.
Teach's fight with Kuzan revealed why Whitebeard, Kaido and Big Mom joined the Rocks pirates. All pirates need is alignment of interest. Does not matter if they like each other or have had conflicts in the past. While Luffy has formed alliances with Bege and Law, he only recruits people he likes and wants to call his friend. The BB pirates are not friends, they are accomplices. The same could be theorised about the Rocks.
I flip flop between "Rox was stronger than prime Whitebeard" and "Rox was the old gen Buggy" basically every week at this point, and I still think it could go either way in the actual story.
Thank you for the help on the final wrap arounds I needed to complete this video I am making for my 1216podcast page! GOAT as always bro!
Ironic that wb , big mom and kaido all formed families after they left roc's crew..
Love seeing your lore videos Tekking! Keep up with your theories, can't wait to see how they turn out as we see more of the story!
Hype for Vulture facts! There are a lot of turkey vultures where I live and I always get a little excited when I spot one cleaning up roadkill.
I totally see whitebeard reacting to Roger and Garp coming exactly as Mihawk did as Shanks landed on Marineford : "didn't sign for this" and proceed casually walk away
Even if he’s defrosted in he’s peak right after god valley, he’ll probably be given a Whitebeard moment where it’ll be said he has a heart condition, he isn’t feeling well, he has rogers decease, Covid, and didn’t woke up feeling it that day like Whitebeard.
Sometimes I wonder if Blackbeard is his botched clone or a random orphan given his soul.
Whitebeard has definitely gone through some character development during his pirate career but I can see a fairly simple reason for willing to a part of the Rocks Pirates: to amass wealth to send back to his home island. We know, during his time as a Yonko, that is exactly what he did so he might have started doing so then
I read a theory somewhere on Reddit and I can’t remember who said it … but the theory went that Rocks is Davy Jones because of how he sank with the Island … I forgot how it goes exactly but it was along those lines that Davy Jones and Rocks are the same person
All we know about Rocks is he probably had extremely powerful Conquerors Haki and probably a really Strong DF or maybe like Roger and Garp, he didn't have a Devil Fruit he was just that Strong.
He likely had both which would've been why they needed to team up for it.
@@GamerBoyDevin Theres also the potential for some technology fuckery given its an entirely erased incident. Maybe not one of the main weapons like pluton but void century shenanigans
I think that you don't get to have ppl like Kaido and Charlotte LinLin in YOUR crew if you don't have CoC aswell, and much stronger (at that time at least). Too much ambition to deal with if you yourself don't have an even bigger one, they would have never joined a captain weaker than them.
@@GamerBoyDevin
Maybe he had the Yami Yami before Teach
I often think about the possibility of him being like teach and having multiple devil fruits, imagine what a broken combo that would be
It is pretty wild when you consider most of the pirates with a name under Rocks' were all strong enough to rival Garp and Rogers lol.
*My Theory on Positions on the Rocks Crew:*
*Captain:* Rocks D. Xebec (His crew was named after him.)
*First Mate:* Edward "Whitebeard" Newgate (He was the second most powerful person on the crew, so it fits.)
*Helmsman:* Shiki the Golden Lion (The wheel on his head kind of gives it away.)
*Head Chef:* "Gourmet Knight" Streusen (He probably was a member of the Rocks Pirates, and was probably the head chef.)
*Sous Chef:* Charlotte "Big Mom" Linlin (She would definitely held Streusen with his cooking, due to her obsession with food.)
*Navigator:* John (He has a compass that leads to his treasure, implying that he was a skilled navigator.)
*Marksman:* Wang Zhi (His namesake introduced guns and canons to Asia, so it would be fitting if he were a marksman.)
*Shipwright:* Silver Axe (He's honestly the only one who would fit that role, because he'd probably be similar to Franky in some way.)
*Doctor:* Buckingham Stussy (By process of elimination, she would honestly fit the best as the ship's doctor, which is kind of ironic since she's a vampire who sucks blood.)
*Apprentice:* Kaido of the Beasts (It was stated in both the Manga and Anime that he was an apprentice on Rocks' ship, making him the lowest ranking member by far.)
Really fits well
They didn't have a musician, no wonder they failed
3:50
“Slobber knocker” is a word I didn’t know I needed to know 😮
The way Tekking said Treaia-shure! I love it!
Gave a like for “You can’t take my crew down!! 👀😅… Oh! They’re gone! Well, YOU CANT TAKE MEE DOWWN!!!😤”
I would like to see Rayleigh and Shakki flirt fighting on Gods Valley while Rocks, Garp and Roger are fighting to death.
Thank you for the video! I always enjoy watching your videos!
3:30 - Bluebeard was a renowned nobleman that habitually murdered his wives soon after marrying them.
New Rocks video,hell yeah!got something to listen to at work tonight now ❤ Thanks Tekking,love your work mate,keep it up CringeKing !!
My hand went into the air, palm up, with the excitement greater than that of finding the one piece. To begin to hear the great words from Tekking. My body then went limp when I head Ochoku. Im glad I got to let it out later.
That was me who commented they broke the code !! Lol cool to hear your full thoughts on it here
Tekking i read the spoilers and oh boy youre going to love it
He's gonna have a lot of material to talk about that's for sure.
Vulture fact going be fun. I don't think the turkey Vulture is a turkey that one day just said "man am so hungry I could eat a horse" than sees a dead horse "well I did not say it had to be fresh"
Rocks was the Buggy of his day
A perfect video for my road trip back home
I like the idea of shacky and reyliegh hooking up in a same same but different version of what happened with Sai and Baby 5
Love the video and keep up the great work tekking
Now I think that when Rocks crew went pillaging they entered a city of stone and left it a city of rocks 😂
I think the reason why rocks might have wanted to become the king of the world would be because he somehow found out IMU sama existed, and he didnt want to be ruled by someone like that. just a theory
Great video tekking this one is going in the Playlist
I have been watching your videos since those bleach review times. Keep the nice work Tekking! Cheers from Portugal 🇵🇹
He was the captain of big mom and Kaido 😅😅 if we see him at full power it’s gonna break the anime
The Rocks crew us like the Alpha pack from teen wolf, a group of conquerors, a group of Alphas
I really hope we get to see this man in his prime being a fucking menace. Also a small clue to his laughing style might be his name
Xebec
Xe can also be pronounced as Ze so his laughing style would be
"Xeahahahahaha"
Sound familiar? It should because it's the same as
"zehahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha"
Blackbeard connection
This is Equivalent of Rocks as a Pokemon trainer with 7 badges with a team of level 100 Legendary pokemon who never listen to him
"The kernel of who you are".. hahaha.. damn Tek.. you crack me up sometimes 🤣
yey my head canon was brought up! Shaky was on the rocks crew 100%
also brook's ship was covered in arrows in the flashback, so they either ran into kuja or into Shaky on rocks's crew
Love u tekking never stop doing what you do
Not bad bro I love one piece content. Never heard of you before. Can't wait till your next video. I'll subscribe.
new tekking vid at 5am woooooo
you're so appreciative of your fans tekking truly i mean you also think about how to make content for us all nighters and when to post it 🙏🥺😹
This is just a head cannon of mine. I think I know who was the first person to turn tail and run during God Valley. It was Captain John, and his legendary treasure was not really his. At first he was all gung-ho about it, but when Garp and Roger starts to gained the upper hand. Captain John realized that there's no way Xebec could win this battle. Him and a couple of other pirates, maybe even Wang cahoots together and left the battle scene on Rocks own ship. In order to get away faster, they dropped all the tether boat. Linlin and Kaido could have used one of the tether boat to make their get away. All the treasures that the Rocks' crew had accumulated throughout the years is still on the ship. John dropped Wang off at Hachinosu and gave him 20% of the treasures. John went and hid the treasures before his own crew turn mutiny on him. He hid the treasure map and the armband compass at different location.
I like to think of Rocks' crew like school. Your stuck there for several years, with loads of people you don't like, and you gotta act a certain way to survive. When you get the chance, you leave and never look back😂
I swear the frozen guy in impel down is rocks I feel it in my bones
Sadly, I don't think anyone loves wang ji as much as Tekking.
Interesting theory (17:50-19:00). Combining that with the D-theory (2 D's for every generation one is the Dusk and one is the Dawn{from Parvision, I think}).
Could we think that maybe Joyboy was actually the Dusk like Rocks, a D that brings darkness, and mirrors the Dawn in every way except in the bond of their crew.
Some one with good intentions but failed to pick their Nakama carefully leading to a betrayal and the leaders of the "new world" being assigned after this incident that no one involved wants to bring up in detail.
Just putting this together since it seems like Blackbeard's crew seems to be foreshadowing the same series of events.
Right before I go to bed perfect, have something to fall asleep too
Hi Tekking. Love the videos!
My theory:
You are spot on about the Rocks Pirates not working as a team.
I bet at God Valley the Rocks Crew fought on their own, Shaky was probably injured but saved by Rayleigh, who knew she was not a bad person (Haki emotion sense or plain observation), resulting in them being a couple. They clashed several times before this.
I bet Kaido just charged right in, being the beast he already was but waaay under prepared for Roger and Garp, so he lost quickly. Big mom, hating seeing children hurt (like we see from Otama) went to save him from his injuries by giving him his Devil fruit, which she had found at some point. Resulting in the life debt he owed her. They two then left the island, realizing the battle was lost.
Whitebeard clashed with Roger as the always do as rivals and under his captains orders but when Stussy mark 1 try’s to jump in to help, she is taken out by Garp. This causes Whitebeard to jump to aid her, at which point Rocks tells him to leave her, as she is a weakling for falling to Garp.
Whitebeard is enraged at this and states Rocks is not fit to be Captain and is not only losing the battle but his crew as well (aware of the retreat is Kaido and Big Mom, and Shakes defeat).
Rocks takes this outburst as a sign of mutiny and attacks the surprised Whitebeard (who truly thought a Captain would not strike his first mate, naive as this was). This results in the massive scar on Whitebeard. (The one he tells Shanks during their meeting “Every time I see your face, it reminds me of the scar that bastard gave me.” Referring to Rocks, not Roger. From all the scenes we see with Roger and Whitebeard, we see them clash but no outward hostility in their eyes. This makes me think they are rivals testing each other and why they became friends of shorts. I don’t see Whitebeard calling Roger a bastard. Also he didn’t call Roger a bastard when talking to Ace his entire time. If anyone ahod remind him of “that bastards face” shouldn’t it be Ace, Rogers son and spitting image? That is why O think he was referring to Rocks.
Now that leads me to the other theory. Shanks is in fact Rocks son. Because he reminds Whitebeard of the scar that bastard gave him. Shanks was also found at God Valley.
Roger not blaming a child took shanks on his crew because he knew the marines would kill him, also why he later asked Garp to protect his unborn son and crimes of the father not carry to the son.
Just my thoughts. No idea if you’ll see this but hope you do.
Today is my birthday tekking and I’m really happy that you make smile and keep me up like Fr Fr I appreciate you so much as a UA-camr and as a friend thank you for this amazing video hope you see this and makes you day that would be cool p.s if you can do a my hero review of the latest chapters I just want to see your reaction on what will Horikoshi will end the manga
Rocks was definitely the strongest pirate. The captain of the crew always is. Roger never won against the Rocks Pirates till that day at God Valley.
Edit: We also know Garp use to hunt all pirates so I wonder how his interaction was with Rocks back in the day before God Valley.
For anyone looking to say “but Buggy!” Buggy is not the captain of the Cross Guild, but is rather more of a mascot. Crocodile and Mihawk seem to co-captain while using Buggy for his loyal men.
edit: Cross Guild can barely even be considered a pirate crew, it’s more of an organization anyways (like the Revolutionary Army).
@@JagernauttTo be fair even if he doesn't have the title of captain he is the one cosidered Yonko out of the 3, that was clear. So the marines may as well think of him as the "captain" of the alliance. Said that clearly the marines also seem to think of Mihawk as the most dangerous power wise. Because he is not the yonko of the group but he has an even higher Bounty than the yonko...
Guess you can say his plan sunk......like a rock
Garp was chasing around shaky cuz she’s fine good enough explanation for me 😂 @Tekking101
Exactly, all pirates are searching for "booty"
A main point you didn’t mention regarding if the rocks crew acted as Nakama they may have won, whitebeard is known to have switched sides and helped fight against other rocks members p.s also that flashback where whitebeard in his younger years on a pirate ship (presumably rocks) saying his treasure was family, which is probably why he went against rocks at god valley, or at least he always wanted a family rather then changing his mind fully at god valley
Plot twist: Rocks was in fact Kenpachi this whole time... 12:29
It makes me wonder how powerful Rocks was in the first place to keep his monster of a crew together as long as he did...Scary stuff.
"more theories i make without thinking".
I can see a timeline where Xebec really did fly too close to the sun as sengoku said. He might have been the Dragon of the era but in a heinous way causing not only the navy but pirates to battle his group. Maybe it wasn't just garp and roger vs rocks pirates, maybe the god knights were involved and they fought against kaido, whitebeard, big mom and the rest. So maybe the reason they don't like to talk about the events because they know a little too much and dont want to intervene with the celestials.
But now we know there was another factor in the picture that would have been bad for Rocks and his crew… one Figarland Garling. xD
Excellent choice with vulture facts for the letter V!
I can clearly picture Rocks getting tag teamed by Garp and Roger the same Ironman did at the end of Civil War.
You bringing up the idea of Whitebeard hunting down Blackbeard himself makes me wonder how you'd think the story would've changed if that happened.
The Rocks crew seems like a ship full of Super Novas. All these powerful characters with clashing personalities and styles.
Hey tekking it’s my birthday just wanted to say love you and your content, btw as a fellow PA man, it was fucking HOT today dude
Needed a tekking video!!!
8:26 I mean big mom and white beard got along enough to make Wevil
Oh god, Rocks is going to be Foxy's grandad isn't he? The God of the Davy Back Fight. It explains why that overpowered yet unstable crew came together and why they never, ever want to talk about it. I bet we'll learn that Rocks is slang for Dice too. His favorite game in the contest lol
I swear tekking is the most hilarious man in the community 🤣🤣
Oh we're doing late night uploads, I dig it
The two staples of Tekking one piece videos: Wang Zhi and Lord Orochi
“The code is more what you’d call guidelines than actual rules”
I can totally see Rocks saying this.
You can't organize a bunch of powerhouses with super egos without a set of rules. Here is my version of the Rocks Pirate Code:
1. Being a pirate is no joke. When you sail under the Jolly Roger, you mean it.
2. You are free to attack everyone as long as you keep in mind that they might fight back.
3. If you are challenged to a Davy Back Fight, you must accept the challenge. If you lose the Davy Back Fight, you must accept the consequences.
4. Once you've joined a crew, you cannot leave without the captain's permission.
5. If you disagree with someone, you can either talk about it or fight about it.
We need a trekking opening compilation
Rox is not beating arlongs blue haki
Or Higuma’s brown haki
@@hatefulgaming1800 that’s a good point but I believe that arlongs apprentice dragon has stronger green haki
Don krieg's golden haki stands a chance tho
Tekking makes a good point that the Rocks pirates had no teamwork.
😂That sounds so dirty Wang put his hand on rocks shoulder😂
I am unironically hyped for vulture facts they're my second favourite bird after owls
If I'm not mistaken Roger was too violent as well, didn't he murder all of Squardo's crew?