METAL PEDALS? With Butch Walker, The Devil Wears Prada, and Caroline Guitar Company (2018)
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- I know nothing about Metal, but over the years I've acquired a large collection of pedals that say "Metal" on them. It's got me thinking..."Why so many Metal Pedals?" To help me understand Metal and these crazy pedals I'm gonna call up my friends Butch Walker, Mike Hranica (The Devil Wears Prada), and Philippe Herndon (Caroline Guitar Company).
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5:20 Boss ML-2 Metal Core Distortion Pedal
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12:09 Ibanez LA Metal LM7
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14:39 DOD FX-58 Metal Manica
24:48 Rocktek Metal Worker
25:57 Exar Moon Metal
27:24 Exar Metal Mind
28:28 Aria MP-5 Metal Pedal
30:37 Bunnel Heavy Metal
33:01 Ultra Metal
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Here is what I envision the success of the metal petal is. A kid finally convinces his parents to buy him a guitar. He picks out an Ibanez or maybe a Epiphone. Something metal like his guitar heroes. Then his parents realize that amplifiers cost money too. What have they agreed to? They begrudgingly shell out an additional $50-$100 for a cheap digital practice amp. They get home and the kid, full of excitement, plugs in, cranks up the gain, and sounds nothing like Kirk Hammett. He's crestfallen, but he practices any way. A few months go by and he is still determined to sound like Kirk. He goes to the guitar store without even knowing what it is he is looking for, and there it is. Right there in the glass case. A boss metal zone. He knows without even plugging in, this will make him sound metal. It's in the name.
This is probably a similar situation to what Boss and other metal pedal makers envisioned when they decided to put this pedal on the market. I think the success of the metal pedal was a perfect storm of, popularity of metal, cheap digital amps, and lack of accessible product reviews.
not so much digital amps... the digital amps at least would have some high gain option... but it's the small solid state amps that either had no built in drive channel (like the little fender 10W i started with) or the drive channel just doesn't do metal because either low gain or just goes straight bees before you reach metal (like my niece's 15W fender which is ok with the drive channel below 4 on the gain but 4 and higher is buzzy bees)
so what was my solution? DOD Death Metal because it was cheaper than a metal zone
Yep. As a 16 year old I couldn't afford the Marshall JMP-1 with a Mesa Power Amp and Marshall greenback cab that I heard on Bullet With Butterfly Wings so I got a Danelectro Black Coffee for $50 and played through a Squire 1x6 combo (nailed it!).
The moment I got a 100W tube amp there was zero use for that pedal ever. Although, I kinda miss it now.
I feel personally attacked
this is literally the scenario that led me to my Metal Zone lol
Yes. Literally how I ended up with a DOD American Metal in late 80’s. Word for word!
Digitech metal master was my first pedal. 12 years old, plugged it into a terrible peavey practice amp, played the riff from Crazy Train and I went from casually learning to hooked for life. What a glorious piece of shit.
That's amazing.
Shon, at the same age I had a DOD Thrash Master, plugged into a Fender J.A.M. when I learned Metallica's "Disposable Heroes". Similar experience...totally hooked.
I still have mine. Still use it too...
As much as I hate the DOD Supra Distortion, in retrospect I still had that first taste of distorted power chord wallop from it. Lark LP Custom & an $85 brand new Carrera amp.
All that & a Washburn Bantam bass got traded in for a solud state Marshall Lead 30. Been Team Marshall ever since.
The drummer who made the deal at the guitar store got chewed out for taking in that pile of crap, lol.
@@mikewallace9193 iirc it's a DOD Death metal in one mode & a Metal X/Corrosion in the other. Both are kinda cool for whatvthey are, the Corrosion had a lot of comments on the JHS Lamb Series vid.
Late 2019 and I'm still waiting for jhs to release the "metal pedal"
Yup
2020 and now you've got JHS 3 series: chorus pedal, overdrive pedal, reverb pedal, .... If Josh says "maybe I'll do it" you know is gonna happen
@@fabgagliardi Totally
Pedal to the Mettle, but it’s Pink Floyd sounds, with a nine selector switch for different albums
December 2021, and still no Violin Metal Pedal from JHS :(
The most common parts of metal tone usually is a hi-gain amp that isn't using all it's gain, but boosted on the front end (in general). Mostly due to it achieving a tighter low-end response during palm-muted riffs. Ultimately what metal players usually want is that contradiction of having high gain, but still be tight and also have note definition. the 5150 is notorious for basically having a great metal tone out of the box with everything on noon. Modern players usually opt for more midrange presence and tight response, and more oldschool stuff is more tube sag in a way. there's a few different mainstream iconic metal tones, so pretty much plexi boosted (oldschool think randy rhoads or iron maiden or yngwie or even vintage EVH), then there's late 80's higher tech which is mostly jcm800's boosted with tubescreamers for leads with chorus and delay in fx loop, and 90's was pretty much owned by mesaboogie dual rectifiers alot of the times using tubescreamers to help clean up the muddy low end, and modern players are using alot of modeling amps usually modeling 5150 type stuff or plexi's but which more noise gate help and almost already going hard into the front of the amp with a tubescream or clone of one. the best metal pedals like the boss ones are great because they're essentially standalone pre-amps so they're kind of simulating the amp. Metal pedals are popular because it's a cheaper way to possibly get a more tighter distortion if you dont have a amp with good distortion built in (usually fuzzy or undefined). if you were to make a metal pedal it'd be good to have like multiple flavors built in, like marshall , mesa, or 5150 style gain circuits to choose from .
>'Marshalls don't enough all tube gain or scoopz or low end, lol'
Buys 5150, sets gain at 1 oclock, all eqs at noon and whines about no mids and flubby bass, puts TS9 in front.
Lol
Late but thats what blackstar distortion pedals do
Let’s remember the audience for these pedals. I think they are intended for bedroom guitar players who are playing by themselves. They need to be over exaggerated to simulate a cranked amp at low volumes without drums and bass through a budget clean amp.
Not really intended to achieve recording or performance tones.
Very correct.
Very good point.
Except I mainly used my Boss Metal Zone when rehearsing, recording and on stage.
Well, occasionally at home but very rarely as it would be a bit fizzy unless through the JCM 800 at the studio or through my Marshall 1959 100w on stage.
Seriously it sounded pretty great when through a Marshall with a 1960 or 2x12 cab - chugga chugga squeal chug (you’ll just have to imagine the words being a Jackson Dinky through a big Marshall I’m afraid).
Spot on. A full band will generate a lot of harmonic content. Additionally, the added sound pressure level of a full band will generate a lot of "false" harmonic content from the cochlea (we've all experienced that persistent "applause" after leaving a very loud show). So people do use "metal" pedals to simulate that harmonic overload when playing alone. Hell, I've been doing it since 1968 or so, when I first discovered overdrive by plugging into the mic input of my tube tape recorder and feeding the line out to my amp.
The desire to create the illusion of playing in a full band is fine. The challenge is when players move from the bedroom to the practice room. They are so accustomed to diming the drive/gain/distortion knob when playing alone, that they do it in the band con text as well, and everything gets lost in a harmonic haze. There is certainly a place for intense tone. The thing is that it can only sound intense when it can be differentiated from the other instruments, and stands in contrast. Ya gotta turn that knob down for the emotional intensity to come through.
I have very few memories from the 60's, many blackouts etc. but I can tell you "tone gurus", there are some of the best 60's and early 70's metal bands using just marihuana, a tube amp and the best "metal" pedal; Germanium Treble Boosters. Cheers
'No one uses a MT2 outside a bedroom'
[Laughs in Cannibal Corpse]
I have a death metal DOD and a MT2 two clones of a Mt2. They can be used, sometimes you can just shape some distortions with them distortion way down. Pig Destroyer used (atleast on one show I saw) a gallien kruger ( i think) bass head into a marshall cab with straight guitar the MT2 into the head.
Marduk, Wehrmacht, Mayhem, Sinister, Dissection...
Crowbar
in the effects loop FTW !!!!!!
You need to watch Sam Dunn’s documentary on Metal. “Metal: A Headbanger’s Journey” it’s all in there. You won’t regret it.
Yes! It's fantastic!
"Pedal to the Metal" could be an expression pedal
Josh,
You have to start with Black Sabbath. For me that's where true Metal originated. Their whole catalog is stellar. After that Dio, Accept, Judas Priest, Scorpions, Iron Maiden, early Metallica, Megadeth, Pantera are must listens. Good luck sailing the Metal seas my friend. Great Vlog!
Good list. I lived that era and was fortunate enough to see a few of those bands, Sabbath with Dio, Scorpions a few times and Randy Rhodes live with Ozzy Osbourne on his very first tour. Add Ozzy to that list - especially the first album. I always liked early Def Leppard, again first album would be my choice. At the same time Ted Nugent, Led Zeppelin and Van Halen were also influences of the era. Oh and Motorhead - can't forget Motorhead.
AND AC/DC!
Can't we just pretend Dio never turned Sabbath from a cool, deep band into a silly joke band, and just act like he never existed at all?
I think metal history could really do with a retcon in general. Once the money people get involved, it all starts feeling so weak and/or cheesy.
I am with you with Metallica!
Zugie01 what about Hyper Metal, though.
Back in the olden days, prior to even Mesa Boogie, when Metal was young and the Priest ruled our turntables (along with Iron Maiden, early Rainbow etc) we all did the same thing. A guitar with HB's, an MXR or Ross Distortion box and a Marshall with the magical master volume. Why? Because that's all we had.... because the mom and pop music store on the way to school (uphill both ways) carried those things and there was no youtube to tell us we were doing it wrong. NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!!.....time for my meds.
2020 and the best amp in GC is a JCM800 Studio.
Those were the glory days
what about all pedals with blues in them?
like the blue box.
blues driver
Spencer Yang Blues players use them but metal players don’t use metal pedals
Blues pedals are actually usable though.
Bluesbraker
The Boss Digital Metalizer is in David Gilmour's rack! Hardly a bedroom guitar player . . .
Listen to Opeth's album, or even just the title track, Blackwater Park. The way they take a couple simple riffs and develop them throughout the length of the track...as a classically trained musician, I enjoy it.
Notable IC chips: two 4560-type op-amps
Component-side circuitboard image: October 1998
Related circuits: FX51 (loosely based), FX100 (same circuitboard, but R27, R32, R47, C17, C19, and Q7 are missing in the FX101); DOD's I.T. circuitry was also used in a series of small practice amplifiers (including the "Grind I.T.") released at the same time. The FX100 has 2 4558D's...
JHS metal sound = Angry Charlie + Tube Screamer
Or an Angry Driver for short 😂
I tried the Angry Driver. It's cool. But imo for the heavies there are better MIAB pedals
The GT500 is criminally overlooked. FET MIAB + Fullboost 3, switchable order. Got mine for 49 new on GC Clearance.
The Suhr Riot is hecking great. If you want the bigger sounds roll some tone back, crank level up, modern setting. The Donner Morpher is a stupid good clone. Probably the best 80s metal in a box pedal on more standard settings, & it's a Guvnor type circuit so it works great as an OD into a Marshall. More Friedman Browneye than a BE-OD, which was meh imo.
Any Tech 21 with the British setting. You might not need an overdrive, but it stacks very well. Joyo British Sound is an excellent clone I used on the Star Skeleton stuff.
More IIC+ flavored, but a Wampler Sovereign is the absolute business for tight metal stuff.
I think that's just JHS's "Sweet Tea" double OD pedal. :)
Def Leppard High n Dry JOSH. great Metal Abum. very raw, 5 19year old kids just getting drunk and letting it rip really loud.. Its a hidden gem. The albun befoore they broke big in the U.S. its raw metal from drunk teens in a garage from Engglands 4th largest city.. The album that brouight us Bringin on the Heartbreak, Give it a listen Josh. The record is from 1981
You'd probably like what prog metal's been up to - time signatures get weird, albums get nerdy, and single coils start coming back into play. Dials back the standard aggression, keeps up the heavy.
Record Time:
Devin Townsend - Transcendence (awesome) + Ziltoid the Omniscient (nerdy + hilarious)
The Contortionist - Clairvoyant
TesseracT - Polaris
Karnivool - Sound Awake
Meshuggah - Koloss
Haken - Vector
As far as pedals, yeah, you can make high-gain metal sounds with nothing more than traditional gear without "metal" in the name. Probably best 1-stop pedals would be the Diezel VH-4 or MXR 5150 pre-amps - because they're emulating the classic amps instead of just shoving more bees into the distortion. Put a heavy delay/reverb after and get a huge wall o' sound that's pretty prominent.
This is super late. But I thought I'd weigh in with a recommendation. Corrosion of Conformity. Start with the album Deliverance. They're sort of a spiritual descendant of Black Sabbath and Skynyrd. Started out as a hardcore band in the 80's, then morphed into a southern metal band in the 90's. Still around today and kicking ass. Great duel leads, guitar-driven songs that's easy to get into that's a small leap from Pearl Jam and other guitar-heavy rock acts from the 90's.
Band: Kings X
Album: Gretchen Goes to Nebraska
The metal album that influenced a lot of early grunge bands....
Totally great band!
Favorite band EVER!
Ty Tabor has an amazing sound! I’m bummed that they never made it huge but Poison, Great White, and Cinderella did. This is one of the tightest trios you will find. Out Of The Silent Planet is great too. The bassist/lead singer (because they all sing) also played 8, 10, and 12 string basses.
The sword or graveyard are great metal gateway bands. By far my favorite metal album of all time is colors by between the buried in me. You gotta listen to track one and listen in order until the end. It’s a musical journey that passes through everything from ancient Egypt, to a smoky jazz club, to a banjo picking bar fight. I don’t even really like metal but that album is a masterpiece to me.
*between the buried and me
Doom metal has a big following in my neck of the woods. Pallbearer are from my hometown and they have been putting out great records and getting more attention around the world. I caught YOB for the first time this summer and highly recommend their new album, Our Raw Heart. It's emotional and beautiful and heavy.
Speaking of Yob, the side project VHÖL is amazing.
About the Metal Zone.. Plug it in the return of a good tube amp and you'll be amazed. I think initially was designed as a pre amp pedal. Sounds really cool!
Listen to Black Sabbath and Dio, for starters. Melvins, Tool, Pantera and Opeth are good to get into to understand some of the different kinds of metal from around the time you were getting into grunge. Punk had already happened or was happening and some of the ideals of the punk sound ended up kick starting a lot of different kinds of metal. Early Slipknot, Marilyn Manson, Mudvayne, Rammstein and Ministry kind of pioneered nu metal and industrial metal all at different times. It seems to have taken waves of these big bands that had a certain audience and sound over the space of ten or more years to establish these genres with blurred lines.
Dunwich Amplification was mentioned in the video earlier and a lot of the guys who use Nick's pedals are into sludge, doom, drone and stoner metal. Nortt, Bongripper, Conan and countless other bands use his pedals and have that super beefy guitar and bass sound with drums like hams being smacked by shovels. When I look at the boutique pedal market and see all of these heavy circuits, I'm finding the deep connection between small guitar effects companies and metal bands. You look at the market, you'll find the music. Thanks for another great episode, Josh!
Nine Inch Nails, Type O Negative, Electric Wizard!
\m/ From the past, MELVINS' Lysol is a must for what I think Metal *should* sound like. They remain a phenomenal live act.
As for present day "metal" - SLEEP, Atlanta's WHORES (*Clean*), LA's Big Business (*Battlefields Forever* - esp Lonely Lyel!!!) and Red Fang (*Murder the Mountains*) handle totally different areas of the spectrum, and all are virtually without peer for their own particular dynamic. Don't miss any of them live. So fucking good. \m/
The Boss Heavy Metal (HM-2) is the one that you should dig in deep with its history. Most of the metal bands from the Scandinavian side of the world from the 90s used that pedal and then influenced a lot of bands currently again (at least the clones of the HM-2 unless you've got a working original one).
I heard that At the Gates used the Metal Zone for Slaughter of the Soul. i was pretty shocked.
@@h2ophiltermetal zone stacked with hm-2 actually
Even David fkin Gilmour used one. It's a serious pedal.
It does more than just the Swede sound.
It does sick muff sounds a la Gilmour, and the Godflesh setting destroys.
Most metal players I follow don't use many pedals (more use gain from the amp), but the HM-2 is definitely one of the popular and legendary ones.
I was like the one kid in my neighbourhood that was totally into metal & had hair down by my ass at11 or so. Totally obsessed with metal and remember getting my first guitar at about the same age which was a cheap knock off strat with a little 6 watt amp & being pissed that I couldn't get a metal sound until my friend introduced me to pedals. He used to have a Rocktech distortion pedal that I would borrow off him & just make a shitload of noise. Im 43 now & not much has changed. I currently own 4 pedals & all are dirty fuzz boxes. I never grew up & don't want to. Lol. ;)
I think the names on pedals is a good guideline for people to know what to buy when you wanna play a certain genre or style. Specially when you dont really know a lot yet about equipment. The pedal world is a djungle and its easy to know if a pedal names Metal rather then maybe xyz-202030. My opinion.
Personally I think the Metal Zone is quite underrated. That being said though I would agree that it is a finnicky pedal and you need to know how to set it up right but I have heard people (like Ola Englund) get killer tones out of it. Also... All hail the Swedish Chainsaw!
The irony of you discussing the "moon metal" pedal while wearing a NASA t-shirt and he says they were questioning the moon landing is pretty epic!
When my eldest - now roughly Josh's age - was about 3 or so, I asked him what kind of music he liked, while we were driving. He responded "Fast, fast, fast...and LOUD". There's your basic definition of metal.
Sorry to comment again so soon. Wanted to chime in about how we were introduced to pedals in the 80's. No internet!!!We would go to the music stores, use our social abilities, and get to know the people that shop there, the people that work there and in some cases the shop owners. We would spend hours at music stores, because that was the only place you could be around new and used equipment. We tried out everything in the store to find what sounded good to us. We would talk to people that tried things. We bought stuff, returned stuff and traded stuff.
I still hate being a rock/metal player looking for a good gain pedal and every YT vid demo just shows some guy playing blues riffs
Check out Ola Englund
Agreed! "It's a very high gain sound..". Has gain knob at 9 o'clock. SMH.
My gateway to metal is surprisingly Dream Theater. It led me to modern metal bands such as Periphery, Animals as Leaders, Veil of Maya, Monuments, Vildhjarta, Sithu Aye, and many more. You should check them out, they are the modern metal guys, like 2010ish modern metal.
We have a VERY similar taste in music.
im so glad you make videos, your content is always great.
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Wow, that takes me back - I had the Boss HM-2, but my VERY FIRST pedal was the Aria DT-5 analog distortion, crazy to see they had a Metal Pedal too. Crazy how that kind thing triggers some many memories. LOL
I saw you mention the FZ-2 in a video without mentioning Electric Wizard's Dopethrone, so listen to that if you haven't.
Liam Shanley hell yes!
Is that what Electric Wizard uses? Dopethrone is one of my all-time favs.
Justin Bowlin yep that’s what they use. Watch jhs video on the Behringer pedals and go into the description for the timestamp of sf300. He compared it to the fz-2 and it’s very hard to tell a difference. $30 or $200.
I love it but I can understand why my wife hates it.
Thera Pist ironically enough I ended up with a Fz-2 I got for $150. There is little difference to the behringer, but it’s also cool to me since I never thought I’d have a rare piece of gear. It’s a keeper
DUDE I AM SO EXCITED FOR YOUR METAL DISCOVERY!
Butch Walker is my rock hero. Marvelous 3 and ever since, some of my absolute favorite rock. I was playing "Closest Thing to You" over the weekend.
Mastodon - Leviathan (not a classic but so listenable and so good)
Melvin’s - Houdini
Queens of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf (not really metal but stonery kind of stuff so you know, whatever)
Pantera - Far Beyond Driven (I think if you just say hell yeah a lot while you listen to this you will get it)
Black Sabbath - Masters of Reality (duh)
Slayer - Reign In Blood (its you know fast and slayery)
So there’s a few goodies. METAL
Um. Leviathan is 100% a classic.
@@OmniTron1000 Every Mastodon Album, their last 4 albums have been stellar as well.
On the topic of Metal:
If you reached 'Infant Anihillator' you've probably gone too far...
You wouldn't have stumbled upon Scat Metal or Porn Grind if you just stopped at baby killing.
in a good way, of course!!!
Necro-pedophilia is not your cup of tea? (Or babies)
Christoph Milton coward
The segment with Philippe was GOLD. 😂definitely have him back on!
Such a complicated subject. There's so many different flavors of metal that are all so important. The best way to look at it (in my opinion) is in 'eras' based on time period and location.
Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are my go to 'gateway' metal bands. Get a copy of Maiden's "Powerslave" and "Screaming for Vengeance" by Priest. If you dig it, work your way backwards through their catalogs from there. Early Priest is super 70s psychedelic hippy, while pre-Bruce Dickinson Maiden has much more of a punk vibe. Both are fantastic. Great way to start with the "New Wave of British Heavy Metal" era. You can't ignore Black Sabbath either, but I think that doesn't even need to be said. Just listen to it.
Then you get into the early thrash metal records which grew out of those British records. Listen to the first two records by Metallica and Megadeth. Slayer is hugely important as well. I suggest their first live record, "Live Undead". Their first two studio records are great, but the live record captures the energy and vibe of early thrash out of LA and San Francisco. The third records from these bands really steps things up. At this point the genre has had time to be established. The songwriting is more refined and mature. These musicians were unexperienced children basically. By the time their third/forth records were written, they had all improved and matured. Metallica's "Master of Puppets" and Slayer's "Reign in Blood" are significantly different than their previous records. Don't forget Anthrax either. The New York scene at the time shouldn't be ignored.
Pantera is HUGELY important to modern metal. That group of miscreants revitalized metal in the 90s after grunge (more specifically, record company greed) demolished the thrash scene. They showed up playing thrash style riffs with a groove, something the previous bands didn't have. The songs on "Cowboys from Hell" and "Vulgar Display of Power" swing pretty hardcore. You'll find yourself locking into the groove, more like a classic rock record than a pure thrash record. Phil's vocals are particually important, as modern metal "dirty" singers are basically doing what Phil did. Other bands were doing that beforehand of course, like Chuck Schindler of Death, but Pantera had the commercial appeal which brought that style of vocal to the masses. Without Pantera, metal as it exists today would be VERY different.
I can keep going with different eras and styles of metal throughout time. The early death/black metal scene, moving forward to the second wave of American metal with metalcore bands like Killswitch Engage, Shadow's Fall, and Lamb of God (not really a metalcore band per se, but they came up in the same scene and time period), progressive metal (King Crimson, the most underapprediated band ever). The most important records of that time period would be "Alive or Just Breathing" by Killswitch and "Ashes of the Wake" by Lamb of God. Plenty of other great stuff from there.
I skipped over the hair metal stuff, or "butt rock" as my group of musician friends used to call it. That's important too, but it's a different subject entirely that shouldn't be ignored.
That's a good place to start. I can go on for hours on this subject. Haven't even started talking about the guitar gear synonymous with this music yet! There's a long and storied history to heavy metal which can't be covered in one piece. Didn't touch on the guitar centric shred metal kinda stuff of the 80s either, like Cacophony (Jason Becker and Marty Friedman), Shawn Lane, Racer X (Paul Gilbert and Bruce Bouillet), ect..
TL;DR - Listen to the first two records from the "Big 4", Maiden and Priest, Vulgar Display of Power by Pantera, Alive or Just Breathing by Killswitch Engage, and Ashes of the Wake by Lamb of God. That's a good selection of seminal records from each of the eras/genres of metal I covered above. If you like crazy instrumental guitar shred, check out Cacophony and Racer X. Everyone should listen to more King Crimson because they are the shit.
That was a good read cheers for that.
I'm an old guy, almost 70 and my local guitar shop has an old TS in the glass case where he keeps his pedals but it's not for sale so I purchased a Digitech Metal Master and I love it..
Crack The Skye and Emperor Of Sand by Mastodon are two great albums for someone looking to dip their toe into metal but tend to like more psychedelic rock and stuff like that.
For full on metal, anything by Lamb Of God is great, and same goes for Meshuggah.
Josh I like that you don't use bad language. The guy is not very professional but he is a cool dude!
I played a bit in a band where the other guitar player was a violinist, so piezo-pickup from a violin straight into a JMP1 and again tempo-sync'd rack delays. I think Ed Alleyne-Johnson was the driving force behind this, played with luddite-punk bad New Model Army on their 1989 album Thunder and Consolation. Vagabonds being the stand out violin track, but his solo album The Purple Electric Violin Concerto really explores what you can do with an electtric violin and all the pedals.
Being a Euro male of a certain age, I had no trouble thinking up metal bands with violinists. Actually, first CD I ever purchased was My Dying Bride's "Turn Lose The Swans". But violins with metal distortion? Not so much.
The EVH 5150 is the Ultimate "Metal Pedal" on the planet! As well as anything else. Nothing more to say.
I just got one and it's bitter sweet, because now, I'm the only thing holding back the sound of my guitar.
@@Aaron-zh4kj I know right?! No more hiding behind a small Buzzy sound! Oh well, onward to Glory!
The first thing that came to my mind was my local mom & pop store. They stocked the usual low to mid end guitars, but also had some boutique instruments like James Trussard and D'angelico. The thing is, the owner demo'd EVERYTHING through a Boss MT-2 Metal Zone. So you would be sitting there with a $6000+ hollow body instrument and he came running with his trusted MT-2 because 'you've GOT to hear it through this!". Good times.
lol, that's hilarious.
Butch Walker is such a music dork. That's one reason I love his music.
I'm going to pick out some quite mainstream and accessible entrypoints into metal listening.
British Steel (1980) and Painkiller(1990) are the albums that capture Judas Priest, and the are very different. Although Pantera's Cowboys From Hell (again 1990) is held up as the point where the spandex was traded for a razor sharp guitar sound, it's not so much ground breaking as a commercial breakout.
NiN's Pretty Hate Machine (1989) and the followup EP Broken (1992) are fine examples of a very heavily processed industrial metal guitar sound and set a template countless bands have tried to follow.
Look at Korn for the beginnings of Nu-metal and the point at which 7-strings took off. Issues (1998) is the album that spoke to teenage me, and is about the point where I started paying attention to contemporary music.
DragonForce's mainstream breakout Inhuman Rampage (2006) is worth investigating as possibly the pinnacle of power metal, although I still don't know what to make of Herman Li's midi-expression controller ring. Guitar rigs are rack oriented with rocktron preamps for the most parts, but on the reaching into infinity tour i've seen roland GT series pedals off stage controlled by a laptop, but that was in a very small venue.
Avenged Sevenfold emerged from the metalcore scene on a trajectory that would take them into Prog. Consult youtube for a best-of, and later career albums are much more accessible, The Stage very much showing the influence of 80s and 90s metal, but Sounding the seventh trumpet and city of evil are good albums from their early career.
Oh man it's so just up to the listener/player! What's a good metal sound, what isn't...... I like certain old " crappy " metal sounds from the early 80's, and I like some of the new metal sounds. So no one can say, not the guitarist from devil wears Prada, no one can say what's good and what isn't. If you like it- use it!
There's also a bunch of pedals that say "Blues" on them that might be an interesting video
i used to love summoning wizards with the clean channel on my Mesa Nomad. wizards. real ones.
There is a GREAT documentary series called "Metal Evolution" it was free at one point, but its on iTunes for $2.99 an episode or $27.00 for the first season. Its very informative. I would start there.
Noah Rice - "Metal A headbangers Journey" is another killer metal documentary.
I think the problem is not understanding what the end goal of the pedal is. Your guitar sound has a journey and destination. Think of it as a flight across the country. You’ll get there, but how easily that happens is up to what you do, or in the case of guitar sounds, what you use. You might have direct flight or a one stop pedal that is perfection, like the Amptweaker Tight Metal. But you might need a couple of layovers, which is like having an amp, needing a boost pedal, using an EQ pedal and having to find a noise gate to get you to that final destination that is your sound.
I could play "Stairway To Heaven" when I was 12. Jimmy Page didn't actually write it until he was 22. I think that says quite a lot.
There is a HUGE difference between writing the song and playing the song.
I love your channel but I honestly fast forwarded to the Butch Walker section. He’s an absolute genius in music and music gear.
He and I took lessons from the same guitar teacher, Chris Fowler of Cartersville, GA. I really wanna meet him one day. I fast forwarded to his section too :) oh, and I still take lessons from him btw. There was a better way to word that, but I'm not sure what it is
Man he’s an absolutely awesome guy talk to. He has a good sense of respect and he loves talking to fans. My wife and I drove from Ohio to Nashville to see him when his documentary came out and he took the time to talk to everyone and he’s such a nice guy. And man I would kill to take lessons from the guy who taught Butch haha you’re a lucky guy.
Time for a JHS "Pedal Metal"!!! ;)
So I actually got an MXR Fullbore Metal recently and was very surprised by the tone I got from it. I've heard of people talking S about this particular pedal and I understand why some people do so. Because tone and sound is subjective. But I can say every tone coming from that pedal that I heard while online wasn't great. I was surprised after running it through my rig how much I liked it. I'm playing through an Ibanez SIX6mfm iron label-MXR Fullbore Metal-Bugera t50 infinitum-Carvin 4x12.
A band you should absolutely check out is Helloween; they invented the genre of power metal. Check out Keeper Of The Seven Keys. Great episode, so much joy!
Dude, your dry humor low key delivery are a big part of why I love this channel!.
And
going so far as saying things like don't spend $xxx on pedals, including your own pedals that are on the used market.
You truly do this for the love of it
Such a class act.
Keep on doin what you're doing bro!
Josh, Please go listen to the band Sleep. Their new album "The Sciences," released on third man records, is so good. Album of 2018
Metal Zone with my custom 100 Hiwatt .. has been my fave too date...
Moon Metal and Metal Mind both have a knob labelled "Metal". Just like, turn up the metal to 10, bro...
Deafheaven really are one of the best metal bands right now, and while they have the 90's black metal inspired drum work and witch screams, linger on the side of shoegaze and post rock. Really great band if you're a fan of Mogwai, Godspeed, etc. Also for a more balls to the wall, crazy eccentric metal act, Slipknot's first two albums (self titled and Iowa) are actually incredible. Ik they get a lot of flack, but they really pioneered the modern metal sounds in my opinion better than any 90's 'nu metal' band before them, and have so much raw energy and such thick, stellar guitar tone.
At least you did not do the zillionth video this week about the Boss MT-2
@@rikkousa discovery of MT-2 as preamp, sounding lots better ;)
Mt-2 in the effects loop 👍
@@micahwinters7021 almost... Guitar -> mt2 -> return fx loop :)
yeah, what is it with so many UA-camrs having the same theme every week. I get it when they all are sent the latest guitar or amp and they all do it because they are shills, but the MT-2? I really don't think Boss was actively trying to drum up sales of what is probably the most sold pedal ever.
grajmahal unless you put it in the effects loop!
I had a metal maniac. Ended up mounting it in a westone that I covered in crushed velvet. Made me smile every time I picked it up. Lol
Solid State Records Metalcore in the mid to late 90s... Zao\
Zao all day everyday
Man, I remember stumbling upon Training for Utopia when I was like 10 or 11 (maybe even younger) and LOVING it.
For prog metal I highly recommend animals as leaders, periphery, intervals, plini, polyphia, and good tiger. Its a very technical aspect of metal.
Josh, you HAVE to make a “KINDA METAL” pedal (extra points for it being a clean, high headroom boost) 😄
On your feet or on your knees,by Blue Oyster Cult.It's an album from 1974,recorded live.Check it out of you can find it.I still have that album.Great intro to metal for sure.
bob bitchen
That was one of my first metal introductions as well. I don't know if Grand Funk would be included in the early metal tag but I always felt they were apart of its inseption.
@@gregbaker6215 Grand Funk was metal sounding in the beginning Absolutely, then they were pop sounding.I think they were one of the first metal sounding bands for sure.👍
I hope someone has already suggested to watch Headbanger's Ball
Pedals with "metal" in the name are oft looked down on. And I get it. That being said, I love my EHX Metal Muff. Had one when I was a kid & loved it, but ended up selling it partly cuz of "metal" in the name & looking for new tones, finding my sound. Flash forward to about a year ago. I was just looking for a new high gain pedal for my lil old practice amp. Remembered the Metal Muff. Picked it up again & loved it! Esp with the dist, treble and mid dialed back a bit, lil boost from a tube screamer, plugged into my old Peavey Bandit. Underrated pedal.
I wish JHS made a pedal called “Def Not Metal”
I haven’t thought about Butch in a while. I’ve got to say, he’s hands down, no contest, the best live performer I’ve ever seen. The first time I saw Marvelous 3 was at Music Midtown (or Big Day Out...can’t remember) in Atlanta. The end of the night was Live, then Bush, then Marvelous 3. We all wondered how this band with one, relatively new radio single was closing for Live and Bush. Cue Butch Walker and we all left floored and in full understanding of the nights lineup.
I have a Behringer Ultra Metal pedal. Mostly because of the name. I figured "well, what's higher than ULTRA?" 😂
That's a Boss MT-2 Metal Zone clone, try it in your FX loop. And be careful with the EQ controls, they pretty versatile which means you can make a number of shitty sounds with them, but good sounds too if you know what to listen for.
My first pedal was the Metal Zone, I liked it, but as soon as I learned to play I HATED it. So I turned to Guitar-Cable-Amp, which were high gain Humbuckers and at first a Peavey, then a Randall and finally a tube powered Laney Ironheart. Now a days I use pedals, lots of pedals, including a pedal amp (Duncan Powerstage) so at first I used the EHX Metal Muff and now use an AMT SS20 which is kick ass.
And we are not “bedroom” players, we go out to play and have a blast. Last gig I went to there were great amps on stage; a Marshall JCM 900, a Roland Jazz Chorus 2x12 and some Fender Tube amp (I stay away from Fenders). I tried the JCM but preffered to just use the 4x12 cab with my pedal amp. The bar was packed and I saw plenty of expensive guitars (such as ESP´s) and pedal boards.
It didn't have "metal" in the name, but... In the 90s a friend of mine had a DOD "Thrash Master" which was lurid bright day-glo pink and sounded like a bag of crisps being dropped into a food blender.
I had a Thrashmaster, sold it... wish I hadn't, was almost like a fuzz.
I'm 4 minutes into this, just puffed some sweet homegrown, and am absolutely dying! Metal Core! This is is gonna be a beauty. Best way to start a Fry-day with one of these JHS vids. I really need to try/buy one of your pedals though, and I've heard only good things. Thanks again for the laughs. I might need to start with a T-shirt, perhaps a JHS VLOG T-shirt?..
I gigged the Metal Zone back in the late 90’s when I was in a heavy metal band. The key for me was the mid control. When I first started using it, of course I scooped out all the mids. And the thing never cut through. When I started using the mid control and also an Arion EQ with the mids boosted in front of it, it sounded pretty darn good back then. I have a Keeley modded one at home now and it sounds good. I don’t play heavy metal live anymore. But it’s still fun to mess with at home. My main distortion box these days is either a TC Dark Matter or Boss Power Stack; set to a plexi type sound.
love how he calls Hranica 'Prada'. love your Vlogs Josh, entertaining me, so thanks.
A Mesa Boogie head and cab costs roughly 40 times the price of a Metal Zone. It's not as if pro musicians are the only people who buy gear.
Voivod! It's metal you need in your life. Nothingface and Angel Rat (especially Angel Rat) are, to me, the peak era for Voivod, but they had a heavier period before and after that other folks prefer. I like the proggy weird Voivod best of all, though. But, maybe that's just because it was my first exposure to them when I was a kid.
I'll probably get roasted for this but I have the Line 6 Uber Metal which I love on my board and I can get any metal and metal sub genre that I want very easily. It's being run into a 75w Line 6 Spider III on the A channel on switch box and 2 Marshall Lead 12s and a BC Rich "Incinerator" on the B. All 4 amps on at the same time with the Uber sounds great.
No hate coming from this direction!
Boss MT-2 "Metal Zone" pedal is really great in some conditions. Not because it sounds any special. For me personally it's a part of history. In my childhood I had no any guitar amp and have to play through a Hi-Fi stereo system. And the only way to manage the sound of the distortion was the parametric EQ of the MT-2. And I had a huge variety of tones with only one pedal. Nowdays my gig consists of TS-9 and tube amp (or a similar plugin simulation), but that years had that "really metal" type of feeling for me. It was great experience, and I like it!
For the record Yngwie uses hot rails.
Close. He used stacked humbuckers but they weren't rails. Until recently, they were the dimarzios but a couple years ago he went with Seymour Duncan and has a signature series with them now.
@@JalenRawley ahhh ok. I just knew they weren't normal single coils. Thanks for clarifying.
@@Travis-pf3gt Yeah, I think they were Dimarzio HS3s (and later HS4s) in the neck and bridge, and a stock Fender or standard Dimarzio single coil in the middle, which he rarely uses and sets really low, almost flush with the pickguard. A few years ago he switched to Seymour Duncan and has a signature set called YJM Fury pickups, and they're stacked humbuckers too. They're pretty darn close to sounding more like single coils, rather than the way rails sound more like humbuckers.
JHS needs to make a “Pink Meddle Pedal” that capture all the musical genius of David Gilmour & Pink Floyd’d Meddle album. Sonar sounds, echo and all! Make. It. Happen! Josh. Scott!
I think the confusion between "high gain pedal" and what to put it in front of really came up in the convo with Butch. and it goes back to conversations about amps being made hotter, and pickups being made hotter, then pedals being hotter, pushing the higher gain, and you end up going a little further than you realize. But having plained in "industrial electronic" band for stint, stacked high gain blown noise sound is a thing, although I think I did that with a less metal set up, still had some of this High Gain metal sound in there.
As marketing goes, its really just like the "punk" and "funk" in a box. although "metal" seems to have meant high gain, and "funk" being some sort of filter, phaser, or combination with fuzz or other modulation. the PUNK marketing i still have no clue what that label even was intended to do other than be slapped on pedals for an easy sale and really aren't all these things for the wedding band, all purpose cover band, or guy alone at home with a little bit of money starting out more than someone can define their own path to something.
Hey Josh, I thought this was a great episode. I'm surprised to see not one Digitech TL-2 in your Metal pedal collection. As a 17 year old bedroom guitarist, and having killed my first Behringer dist pedal and got sick of the Digitech Death Metal, the TL-2 was so much more versatile and subtle. I sold it years ago but remember that actually had merit as an any-distortion. Thanks for this video!
All Time Low is definitely the metal of today. They played in drop d when they used guitars right?
Amen
Magazine ads and, of all things, the Musician's Friend catalog were places you would find out about new gear pre-internet.
What about the digital metalizer? lol
Despite its name, the Digital Metalizer is an overdrive !
The Digital Metallizer is an underrated and badly named pedal! Decent OD and a Boss Chorus? What's not to like?
Too Late digital overdriver!!! :)
Sam Banham CS-2!!!!!! I love it!
The MZ-2 is based on the DS1 Distortion circuit, I'v just AB'd it with a bunch of Boss Overdrives and distortions in my collection, definitely closest to the DS-1
Really enjoying these posts..
Metallica - Master of Puppets - 1986
I mean the name of the band has metal in it, enough said.
The Danelectro Black Paisley Liquid Metal pedal is the meanest distortion EVER! That pedal sounds like a JCM 800 just by turning up the gain. Then you can scoop the mids or switch on octave drive, and for leads it has a +6db boost switch! Oh yeah that pedal kills them all!
Naming a pedal something with metal sounds kind of limiting to me. You're alienating the majority of your potential buyers... That said, I had the Metal Zone up until just recently. Sold it just when it became cool again. Hadn't played it for 25+ years so I figured it was time to move on...
This was fun! I have an Ibanez TM-5 Thrashmetal, which was "accidentally" left at my studio by my brother. He's about the least "metal" guy you'd ever meet. He likes, and plays in a similar style to, Hüsker Dü, Replacements, Dinosaur Jr., etc. But he used this pedal to great effect to get that tone, usually, and maybe ironically, paired with single coils.
To learn how to play Metal, first you must learn where the Hobbits dwell.
New Zealand.
Love hearing from Mike. Great guests on this episode!
Moon metal. Lmao.
There's a lot of people commenting on the older stuff, which is wonderful. But for modern bands that are pretty well known, I'd recommend Tool, Mastodon, Gojira, Dream Theater, Animals as leaders, Periphery, etc. There's a million smaller bands out, but for a taste of what's big now, I hope this helps.