do age gap relationships work?
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I think what makes relationships with age gaps sometimes difficult is the fact that each one is on a different path in life. Sometimes a person wants to already settle down while the other is still pursuing a career, o maybe one has a more stable job and the other person is still figuring out what to do with their life. Of course this can happen without age gaps as well, but I think it's more common when someone has had 10+ more years of experimentation and life to live than the other. I think the key to making relationships with big age gaps work is to make sure that both people are on the same page regarding wants and needs for that relationship and to understand and accommodate the other, taking into account that maybe both are in different stages in life that need different approaches.
This takes two diligent, healthy and generous people with each other in order to build together with prosperity and mutual reliance, else it is a toxic leeching relationshit.
@@WoziduranJahemter relationshit is a new word in my vocabulary now
You take the words out of my mouth, having it experienced first hand.
@@tiny.tinnet5075 have you tried expressing your words instead of relating to people who actually know how to express through them? No person takes your words but is you who is responsible to maybe say more, many experiences can be similar in essence and you gotta learn to don't repress them.
@@WoziduranJahemter Dude. Take it easy. It's just an expression.
I’m 30 years old my wife is 54 I’ve never been happier as long as the connection and spark is there who cares what people say
Good for you. There are too many annoying censoring moralists out there than cannot abide seeing other people happy.
Happy for you! My wife is 7 years older than me, we've met in 2010 (when I was 35) and we got married and happy since 2012...
@@penguinvic9892 "censoring moralists" you're ignorant!
@@fatimahanwaar306 It’s a real pity that reasoned arguments are censored but repetitive mindless insults are posted.
Had been in a relationship with a guy with an 11 year age difference (me being 27 and him 38), overall one of the best relationships I've ever had. I would say it depends who you vibe well with. Sadly he passed away, couple of months ago.
so sorry for your loss 💛
🥺 hope you're doing well
So sorry for your loss 🥺
Incredibly sorry for your loss 🧡
Im sorry for your loss. I am also experiencing the same thing
I think all relationships can work given the right circumstances and personalities. Community disapproval and social norms and even judgy ppl can screw off tbh. Remember, only you deal with consequences of your choices and even the consequences of a choice made for you by others. So make your own regrets and lessen their impact. Rather than let others put you through regrets that they aren’t willing to share in.
That is right. Personality, maturity, circumstances. And always the people who criticize have issues themselves. I was dating a girl who was 20 years younger than me. She was having troubles, we started to talk and we got along so well. She moved with me, we spent a year together until she just wanted to move on now that she was doing just fine. My older sister was terrified but my older sister had two divorces already and her third husband was miserable living with her. So... complainers are always complaining about anybody any way.
I personally had a blast with the girl and she grew up as a person with me and she is doing just fine. She regained her confidence, I was just what she needed.
Great comment 🤟🏾
Weirdly enough if we’re gonna go to the root of it all, what was the “social norms” (which can mean it was both looked down upon but also just brushed over but doesn’t make it okay) was allowing these (huge) age gap and clearly power dynamics imbalanced to be legal and just have to be accepted. It’s still considered a modern take for ppl to criticize (when rightfully so) which is what is pretty sad.
@@bgeese1918 The reality with "age gap" is that young girls are tired of dealing with guys who are as feminine as a girl. Plenty of girls are looking for real men and they are not finding them in Zgen or millennials. They go for Xgen. And as a male adult, there is no "power dynamics", is not that the girls are on a leash. On contrary, they are very happy riding on top and feeling secure while they can do whatever they want because older men just do not care, we are all set in life. Young people look in older people the maturity they can not find in their own generation, that gain.. has roaches instead of a brain.
People who rely on others relative opinions instead of their inner voice ends up dissapointed of themselves and obssesionate for the person that got away from them. Is a real threat when people realize their mistake and then trying to force back a relationship that they've ruined because of other approval. Some people need to learn the effects they have propagated to others. Regret is a great teacher for grieving inconsiderates or greedy abusers.
My partner is 40 while I'm 32. I believe 8 years doesn't matter now, but if we met when I was 22 and he was 30 that would be a completely different story. It all depends on the stage in life and in general, how aligned are we. Do we have same goals in life at the moment? Do we have same priorities and world view? Hence often the older we get, the less it matters. I can't imagine someone 18/19 in high school/collage having a healthy relationship with someone who's done studying. While assuming everyone is of similar health, I don't see anything werid with 60 and 80 dating each other.
You can be finished studying college at 23, so you cant imagine a relationship between 19 and 23?
It doesn’t matter regardless of if you are 32 or were 22 because relationships aren’t affected like that by age gap when the men is older, for it to be different it would be to the women to act differently whether she want a carrier or a family, but the age gap itself doesn’t matter if it’s now or before. It’s highly recommended for women to date older men for a reason so even if she still in college and he works that would still work regardless of their social class.
@hey hey yeah exactly smh
Disagree
I agree. Because when I was 18(f) dating a 27(m) yr old, comparing to it now that I'm 25. I am COMPLETELY different as far as what I want in the future. I also had a lot of growing up to do and a lot of reflecting time from the outside looking in. I think that finding a relationship in your mid 20s is beneficial rather than marrying a hs sweet heart. Also age difference doesn't seem so weird because they are technically a developed adult. Rather than becoming an adult.
Far as I'm concerned, as long as both people in the relationship are (1) consenting adults, (2) have good chemistry, and (3) genuinely care for one another and neither is being harmed by the other in any way, then it's all good, let other people live the life that's best for them!
Agreed!
@Rusty Dusty wich eu country consents it?
They are 16 to 17. 12 in brazil n turkey
@@wzroq Italy
@@ghevisartor6005 so, one of many eu countries.
@@wzroq i think Germany is 13. You asked where.
This whole age gap thing is really only an issue in the USA. Travel outside the States and it’s common if not expected. And with the economy and inflation where it’s at I’ve found that Gen Z is more willing to explore this than generations in the past.
Thank you. For religious reasons I'm looking abroad in mostly Eastern countries. People don't realize how common and normal it is for 18 to 25 year old women to want a man in his 30s. I'm 35 and getting messages from 18+.
The whole truth is that the modern hysteria over age gaps is so emotionally volatile and culturally ingrained at this point in time that it's deeply rooted in the anti-sexuality aspects of religion it is so embedded in Western culture at this point that the sentiment transcends religion.
As a result, it has taken on fully secular iterations, currently manifesting as the sex trafficking paranoia, which is pretty much just a modern update of past moral sex panics, like the white slavery panic of the early 20th century.
What attests to this is how despite not being nearly as religious as America, European nations like the U.K. and other Western nations like Australia totally share the schizophrenic paranoia and revulsion surrounding the idea of adult-teen dating and sexuality, and thus the concept of youth civil rights in general (you need to strip away the agency of people that you want to force into a representative state of aromanticy). And, of course, this is projected into hatred and maliciously willful misunderstanding of MAAs(youth-based chronophiles who we now know together are even more common than the totality of adult attracted adults-teleiophiles even absent of evidence considering the popularity of barely legal porn), as is the total dismissal of youths who are attracted to adults (mesophiles). The narrative remains that youths under X number of years are naturally incapable of handling relationships with older people and that they are blissfully happy without this component to their lives despite all the obvious evidence against it. That is why so many in the public sphere are so outrageously gung ho about sweeping visible instances of it under the rug and viciously chastising anyone who acknowledges this in any way.
And since the Western nations, particularly the U.S. and the U.K. are so powerful economically speaking, they have made sure to spread this hatred and paranoia to all nations across the globe, including throughout the East and South America, who used to be much more tolerant of this.
Most people can no longer think straight or rationally about this topic, and respond in a knee-jerk fashion. It's become almost obligatory for even some of the best critical thinkers to join in on the performative rage to show that whatever else someone says about them, they at least cannot say that they are "perverts" or "creeps" for supporting large age gaps. Anything but that! They also enjoy having this as a cudgel to use against their opponents, even as their opponents try to do the same to them.
And it creates a terrifying and utterly oppressive situation for MAAs, most of whom are decent people struggling to make a living in a world that wants no part of them. If they speak, or anyone speaks up on their behalf, it's instant career suicide. This creates the illusion that the consensus opinion is actually backed up by the research, and why the body of research contradicting it is willfully ignored and commonly censored.
However, I consider them products of their time and do not place the blame on them for this. There are many brave non-MAAs who were also wrong and are now doing the right thing and talking out against this, many whose voices are being drowned out due to constant censorship. And the courage it took many of these lone voices in the wilderness to go against conventional wisdom when it comes to this particular topic is immense and commendable to the extreme.
NOT really. At least it is a issue in developed Asian countries too.
I’m a guy and I remember when I was 20 I was asked out by this guy and I didn’t ask his age till the 2nd date and he said he was 35.
Now I was lucky I never felt uncomfortable while being with him but it definitely put other things into perspective. He just knew more about the world y’a know and I needed more time to find myself so we broke it off in good terms.
I used to think about the bias with the older person having the “advantage” over the younger person in the relationship but this is usually not the case at all because anyone can be manipulated.
My friend is dating someone who is 10 years older now and they get along well, I’m happy for her and I trust her to do what’s best for her.
Because anyone can be manipulated doesn't change the existence of power dynamics in relationship that can be really dangerous!
It's the opposite : imbalance due to power dynamics that leads to toxic relationship *is* the usual case, even though there is obviously exceptions to this
@@DrAbadie so true Phie 👍🏾
@@DrAbadie I think people are missing your point
@@DrAbadie definitely underrated comment.
@@DrAbadie The problem is the only power that seem to ever be talked about is the power of the stereotypical man who is 30+ has gotten divorced and starts dating a 21-24 year old woman. The power that woman holds is never even considered.
Personally I think after 25 any age gap is game. But I cannot get past men in their late 30s-50s swiping right on 18-23 year olds that havent had the time to find themselves and experience anything about the real world on their own. They know what they’re doing.
I think that’s fair, if the men are specifically going after women that young. If not I don’t really see an issue.
"Find themselves". Fascinating.
@@tramainwhite9338 🚩
@@ISoundMasterBlasterI Quite.
Those guys aren't typically aiming for relationships. Also, most men get so few matches that they mostly just swipe on anyone that isn't ugly and look at things like age after a match. Reading profiles and other details before matching is just a waste of time for men.
My partner is 25 years older than me, I was 29 when we started dating. We've had our ups and downs and there are definitely some unique issues that I think most closer-aged couples don't have. It has helped us both grow immensely though, and we'll be celebrating 10 years together this year.
Congratulations 🎊
That’s is great! My partner is also 25 years older than me, but I have 20. Do you have any tips that could help me with this process? He has two children, we love them very much but I always want to be better with him
what does a partner have to do with anything?
If people genuinely fall in love and their happens to be an age gap, so what? That’s their business and they don’t have to live their lives based upon the opinions of others.
this is the prime example of trying too hard to be "inclusive" and "woke" people in age gap relationships are insecure and have zero self respect they don't "genuinely fall in love" that's delusional "that's there business and they don't have to live their lives based on the opinions of others" people against age gap relationships have common sense
@@fatimahanwaar306 , woke ? Inclusive? No, it’s called minding your own business and not trying to play God and tell everyone else how to live based upon your own personal opinions
@@davewhaley6917 this "mind your own business" mentality you idiots have and viewing anyone with common sense as "trying to play God" and dismissing them as "telling anyone else how to live their lives based on their personal opinions" you need to be educated
@@fatimahanwaar306 I wouldn't be surprised if you thought Forest Gump (a movie where a woman falls in love with a man whose brain is so child-like his favorite book is Curious George), and The Shape of Water (woman falls in love with a fishman thing that can't talk and may be no more intelligent than a dog) were beautiful love stories.
Guess what, evolution doesn't care about your feelings. Lust and romantic love exists for a reason, and its to find a partner to pass on your genes. A 50 year old who falls in love with a 25 year old is going to have more evolutionary success than one who falls in love with women his own age. So while its creepy, evolution doesn't care about your feelings.
These days people are as judgemental as ever about relationships, but no longer have a moral compass to judge them by. It's not evolution. It's not God. So what is it?
I'm 24 and my boyfriend is 31. We grew up basically the same. Our relationship is the healthiest I've had.
Thats no age gap at all
@@Woodsaras 😂
@@Woodsaras he is the same age as sister too
@@mirkwoodsnipe what
@@Woodsaras you said that's no age gap
14 years gap with my wife, my wife is older. Fall into that successful 1%, took a lot of hard work to make our relationship work but we decided when our relationship just about hit rock bottom to work on it, improve and stay together. Nearing our 7th year married now. We're an interracial couple (she's south korean and I'm Asian Australian (anglo-indian spanish and filipino mix), but we're very much a like and both worked hard to learn each other's language so that things are quite happy and productive these days. We almost never argue at all now, maybe the rare small thing but usually sort it out quite fast :).
Funny how many women in the comments are misandrist. They always mentioned men who mary younger but never mentioned women who are mary younger. There are female teacher whose having an affair with their student, yet those women didn't mention a thing
What helps you here is that she is Asian to be honest (these women are more traditional). Wish you good luck by the real trial comes at 10 years of the relationship.
@@NeoKurow Isn't that a bit predjudice, they could like be both born in Australia, USA or so even if the household is (strict)er to their orignal culture it doesn't mean they're minds aren't aware of westernized thinking?
Love this 👏🏻❤️
@@nani_bow3489 They don't recognize that power dynamics happen in all relationships. Anna A. is conscious of the actual research, but these SJW trolls only know hatred for other demographic groups.
Oh boy, my wife and I have 15 years difference. We started dating when i was 22 and she was 37. The beginning was quite rough since i had a lot of growing up to do and she was going through a career change, but through ups and downs, we managed to make it work. We have now been together for 11 years and have a growing family
Weird.
I'd like to imagine if i, a girl, were 22, and were to be romantically pursued by a 37 year old man, this would be concerning. power to you though, if it works it works. (having biological kids in your mid to late 30s as a woman is more risky, so keep that in mind)
@@emily_kim I think it would be concerning if there as a power dynamic at play within the relationship.
And there were risks in having children so late (she 45 yo when kid was born) but it coucht us by surprised since we had seen an specialist and said we had a 2% chance of getting pregnant and even less of that baby being born, and just like nature daes, it just sort of happen without really trying. She did have gestational diabetes and developed HELLP syndrome when the baby was born. So we were in all aspects lucky!
I’m glad for you man, keep going strong
@@emily_kim Double Standards. We also need to act like THEY DON'T exist for MEN.
My wife was 20, and I was 27 when we met. That's a seven-year age gap with a woman much younger than 25. Was there a power imbalance? Probably some. I was mature enough to know what I wanted and to make it clear where my boundaries were. She hadn't even thought about boundaries. But I told her she should think carefully about her boundaries and if hers and mine didn't match up, we should go our separate ways. She decided there was enough overlap, and we stayed together. Now I'm 57 and she's 50. That 7 year gap seems almost meaningless now. I don't think someone under 25 is inherently incapable of knowing themselves or that dating a person that young is necessarily going to exploit them. A lot depends on the people. My biggest concern about the age gap now is that women live longer than men, so a younger woman who marries an older man is at higher risk of spending many of the last years of her life alone. I think that's a legitimate concern for young women to think about. And I think a guy who gets serious with someone many years younger than he is needs to be willing to take damn good care of his health so he's around for his life partner as long as he can be.
Most reasonable response I’ve seen so far
My girlfriend was 17 and I was 24 when we started talking. Few weeks after she turned 18, she confessed her love to me. She turned 20 this year and I will turn 28 next month. I share a similar mindset as you and I became more serious about my health, so that I can make sure I am there for a long time. These women pushing for higher age gap are always women above a certain age, who know they are becoming less desireable.
This power imbalance stuff is non-sense, just an excuse for Pride Flag wavers to vilify people for being icky and creepy without admitting they are hypocrites who don't really believe "love is love." I've been seriously manipulated in my life twice, once in Middle School by someone my age, once at 26 in a financial scam that cost me thousands of dollars. The ability to manipulate people is very personal and has very little to do with age.
If your daughter was an airhead and she brought the class valedictorian home for dinner, you wouldn't think 'Oh noes! He's smarter than her! Power imbalance!!!" You'd think "Great, someone smart who can keep her out of trouble."
7 years is standard not an age gap at all, age gap starts when it is like 10 years apart
@@stephskeeper6161no it’s not
My guy is 10 years older than me. We dated when I was 22 and it was a MESS. We split, I got married and divorced, and we met again 13 years later. We got back together in January and we’ve never been happier.
Wow what a story!
Talk about talking to your ex. I knew a chick who became polyamory bcuz her bf/fiance/husband (same guy the whole time) cheated on her chronically. Long story short it was sad to watch unfold and I'm glad she finally divorced him. Obviously he got jealous when she talked to guys
Awwwwww
So this girl confess her love to me and she’s 19 and I’m 25 is that illegal or should I find somebody in my 20s range?
Keep it simple; go with your gut. Do you feel happy with her and does she feel the same? If so, I don’t see the problem.
Don’t listen to anyone who tells you otherwise. We are currently living during a time of universal deceit. Tens of millions of people are being hurt over the modern hysteria over age gaps for no reason, and many very brave and courageous people are talking out against this.
My partner is 11 years older than me and I’ve definitely felt that anxiety over what people might think. I even went as far as hiding my personal life to avoid bringing up my partner over it. Telling myself “oh stop, nobody cares” did not help. Encouraging and challenging myself to be more open regardless of the outcome is what did it. After 6 years that anxiety has completely dissipated and it’s so freeing and my relationships feel so much more authentic. Personal growth will not and does not happen overnight.
I was a widower in my mid fifties when I married a woman from a third world country 25 years younger. While our marriage ended after 10 years, we raised 2 children who are quite successful. I put my ex through law school and she is a successful attorney. Both of us are still friends and agree our relationship "worked" because we both accomplished a lot.
I think the bigger issue is older people dating "barely legal" people. 18 years old might be legaly an adult, but our brains don't really finish developing until we're 24 (for neurotypical people), so that age range between 18 and early 20s leave people more vulnerable to being manipulated by older and more mature people. I think once someone reaches maturity on their mid to late 20s, it shouldn't be an issue to date anyone older.
You are right, many relationships that are made between a young and an older folk ends with the older one trying to indulge in the exploitment of the naive one, but the reverse can happen also, people carry traumas and some are greedy from young ages. That's why teens must develop mostly with other teens and grow together. Some people ruin a healthy relationship because of their egos of wanting a different age partner that might be an exploiter leaving them bitter and toxic as they were badly influenced and traumatized by another. Now they gotta grow alone and heal.
There are multiple internal and environmental factors to consider when talking about "maturity". One's ability to have a well developed prefrontal cortex by 25 will depend on many things: how young and how often you've consumed alcohol and drugs (hard drugs will obviously make things worse), if you grew up in a safe or unsafe environment (economic stability plays a huge factor too), mental illness, who your role models are, how well you learn from experience, etc. I have had short term relationships with 2 10+ older guys before I was 24, one didn't end well, the other did. I do not regret my choices, since I grew up in a relatively safe environment and I've been able to learn a lot from those experiences, while also struggling with mental health issues. The world we live in today is a clear example that we don't mature in a linear way. My dad is 54 and thinks he is stuck living with this mega toxic woman (around his age), who is the complete opposite of my mom. I would argue MEN take longer to mature mentally than women do, with some studies having found evidence to support that. So many of us regress and change in ways we couldn't imagine when we are faced with challenges. So, once a person turns 18 and is considered a legal adult, we cannot accurately determine how "mature" they are in their choice of partners/hookups/etc. if we consider absolutely everything that has happened to them before they turned 18. Safe sex plays a part in that, too.
I recently dated 2 girls age 20/21, i was the one manipulated even though i was 26/27, the older, more mature and financially stable, HA what a joke.
@@MaxIronsThird there is no age for vile misbehaviour.
@@MaxIronsThird Right?! I am terrible at lying and "playing games", and I've been played many times by younger people.
Yup. My wife is 15 yrs my senior. We have been together now for 40 yrs. Common law, not even married. She is, without a doubt the love of my life. I can't imagine life without her.
Hahahah I'm a 1% er... I feel very special! haha. :-)
Lucky man. Count your blessings.
Age gap surely works. My wife is 15 yrs older than me.
And i am very happy.
Just don't ever hide anything.
Sit together and Talk over the problems. Both should have clear picture.
I'm a 29 year old woman and a 23 year old guy asked me on a date.
I said yes and we got dinner once a month for about 6 months.
He was really sweet but he just seemed so young to me.
I told him he's fantastic and is going to make someone else very happy some day (which I 100% know he will) and we stopped meeting up.
Fast Forward 1 month and I took a college course for my job and guess what? I met a lot of young people including a 22 year old guy and didn't think anything of it we were school friends and that was it. Then after the course ended this past May I left the college and he graduated and I thought we would stop talking but the exact opposite happened, we became even better friends who cracked up texting each other all day.
It turns out we just click and it certainly feels I'm talking to my equal with him but I'm keeping him as strictly a friend because the 7 years age difference is just too much for me. I was thinking to myself when he's 25 he'll have enough life experience that I could be open to a romantic relationship but until then it just seems confusing to me and I can't be questioning something like this.
I also prefer men a few years older so it's just kind of "funny" how life throws curve balls at you. Funny and a total pain.
@@lydiahiksan1232 that's right.
It seemed overwhelming for me at the beginning. But that's just a matter of time but it's not that hard.
If it is going to break someday, remember, most break ups occur in same age gap couples as it includes a good level of ego and competition.
That's my opinion.
Else, wish you all the very best
@@dannyhsn119 So you're saying there's less ego and competition in an age gap relationship.
For example, if I have my own apartment and he lives with 3 other guys in a 2 bedroom apartment he will not try to "compete" with me financially?
That was one of the things I was concerned about was him feeling "less than" because I have more money since he is a "broke" 22 year old like we all once were, I know I certainly was. It's a right of passage when you're that age and it's what I would expect.
I think this would be one of those things where we would have to come together and respect that we have different things and it is this way because we are 7 years apart.
I would want to share things with him I just hope he wouldn't get in his head about it. And I would steer away from purchasing things for him because I know that changes dynamics and I want things to be balanced.
For example, I think if I cook food and always have that at my apartment he can have whatever food he wants there because that is sharing but I wouldn't go out with him and buy him something at a store because that would not be sharing it would just be showing he can't afford something that I can.
So if ego and competition were out of it then it seems to me it would work.
@@lydiahiksan1232 Tbh, I was also broke when I met her. And she did helped me a lot (even she paid my college fee). Even though I felt very bad for myself that all was truly unconditional. She literally pushed me in my hard times and always supported me.
That thing made me fall for her. I wasn't financially strong but I was always available for her for any kind of help she needed.
Because I felt it my first priority.
Time flew and 8 years passed.
I got a good job and became financially well .
And all of this was because of her.
When I found myself in the right circumstance I proposed her and she agreed.
I never ever had any sense of ego, competition etc with her as she was the one always there to motivate me.
And now I am very very happy in my life and I love her very much.
@@dannyhsn119 Oh my goodness this is SO BEAUTIFUL. And I am very happy for you two.
It's comforting to hear as well, that you work so well together.
I want to support him in every way I can as well.
Also if you don't mind answering, do you two have children? And if so when in the relationship did you have them.
I feel as tho in age gap relationships this is another topic I am curious about.
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One thing I've never seen people talk about age gap relationship is that when it does work, at the end of the older partners life, the younger one ends up as their caretaker, and it can became their full responsibility to care for them as otherwise their children or nurses would've done.
I've seen this in a couple of people in my life, in all cases their partners just kind of didn't have their own life anymore, they couldn't do the same activities together anymore, and in all cases I saw that the younger partner always adjusted their life to the older person.
And with the few where the older partner died, it was very lonely for the one left, and weird to adjust to just your own life again, to date again, and still have quite a long time ahead. I've seen how the young partner start to behave old because of their partner, and when their partner died, to realize they weren't that old yet.
It's definitely not something that should stop people from starting relationships with an age gap, but it's something I wish more people talked about.
age gap relationships are only about reducing women to sexual objects
@@fatimahanwaar306 But The Shape of Water, where a woman bangs a fishman thing that seems to be little more intelligent than a dog, is a beautiful romance, right? Forest Gump, where a woman beds a guy whose brain is so underdeveloped his favorite book is Curious George, that's also beautiful, right?
Which is better: Older man provides most all needed things to younger lover/spouse and she takes care of him in his last two years and then has the house and remaining wealth; or there is little age gap and they both get very old and have no one to take care of them?
A lot of age gap relationships have kids, what are you on about? Also kids aren’t meant to be your career. They need to live their lives and you live yours HEALTHY. Simple.
As the younger partner in an age gap relationship, I'm acutely aware my girlfriend might die first, and I might be her caretaker. I've fulfilled that role for my grandfather, I'll probably be the one to take care of my parents, and I'll gladly accept the responsibility of taking care of my woman
Just remember, the people who criticize you for dating someone younger are the same people who support giving puberty blockers to 11 year olds.
People have a neurotic mistrust or dislike of anything to do with age-gap dating on a deep-rooted level that often only manifests when it comes to dealing with controversial subjects which allow them to express it (at least if they are liberal rather than socially conservative).
Ex: They purport to have no problem with age gap dates conducted between consenting adults, but this claim is destroyed when you note their insistence that adult women who choose sex work for a vocation are only doing so because, in one way or another, they do not actually have a choice (e.g., enter the sex trafficker or the "oppressive" male in a more general sense).
Yet it already becomes evident that they do not have any particular love for the notion of freedom of choice, at least not when the latter takes the form of a choice they disapprove of and goes against the integrity of the status quo and its popular narratives.
The above point is why they place such a disproportionate concern upon sexually transmitted diseases than the many even more deadly or injurious diseases plaguing the world that are not sexually transmitted, e.g., ebola, malaria, yellow fever, anthrax, etc. Protecting young people from exposure to non-sexual diseases do not have the same emotional "punch" to them that diseases connected to sexual activity do.
The above overcompensating concern also extends into their near-total lack of concern for many readily demonstrable threats to younger people's lives and emotional well-being that do not involve sexuality. For instance, this is why you almost never see them even acknowledging concerns for our society's reliance on the personal automobile -- responsible for by far the highest number of fatalities and serious injuries inflicted upon youths every year; parental neglect & abuse -- people rarely want to even discuss the harm that many young people per year receive as a result of being confined to the insular nuclear family; the emotional and even physical abuse that so many young people endure every year by being compelled to attend the authoritarian schooling system with its rigidly hierarchical and heavily standardized regimen of "learning" that is actually based on the methodology of the Prussian military developed in the early 19th century; or the forced denial of access to information at the discretion of parents and politicians that could potentially enable youths to learn about the world around them and thus make more informed choices. This is why their claim that their primary goal is the well-being of young people overall does not stand up to serious objective scrutiny. Anything that may cause young people a lot of demonstrable harm on either a physical or emotional level (or both) that is not heavily disapproved of by society, which is arguably necessary for the status quo as-is to function properly, and does not involve sexuality of any sort is almost always given everything from only nominal displays of concern to a complete free pass.
Ya, usually people who support trans rights for kids also think old cis pdf file men shouldn't date people half their age. That's correct. You should be on a list
I mean... do non-age gap relationships work? Above 50% divorce rate of marriage. And probably above 90% dating failure rate. I think relationship success depends on both parties being conscious that this is going to be the only relationship for the rest of their lives, and to work on that goal together.
Exactly there’s no formula to this love thing
A successful relationship should in no way depend on a couple being exclusive for the rest of their lives. If would rather judge success by how/if separation occurs and by how good the relationship is for the members.
For instance: a relationship of 20 years where they raised kids in a stable and happy home. Then separated amicably is 100% a success.
Couples who hate eachother but never call off the relationship are not successful no matter how long they last.
Imo for all this. Especially the "just this one person forever" bugs me because my most stable relationships have been after I dropped monogamomy. Obviously, it works for some people but like you said varries person to person
age is still just a number and COMPATIBILITY still VARIES ALL in ALL SERIOUSLY why wouldn't it ESPECIALLY since we PROBABLY still got about 7.2 BILLION people in the ENTIRE world
I'm married to a woman who is 18 years older than I am ... We've been together for 26 years.
Great point
My wife and I are have 7 years between us. We have been happily together for over 23 years now and have 2 wonderful children together. The thing that has kept us together so well is honest communication. We love and respect each other and don't hide our thoughts from each other.
I think 7 years age is common not consider big gap
At what age did you meet? Any early relationship struggles?
My family is one of that one percent!
My father was 12 years younger than my mother. They stayed together until she passed. They used to joke at their 21st anniversary that they were old enough to drink now 🤣
Love that! As I’m 12 years older than my bf too 😂
That's sad man. May your mother rest in peace. I send you much love
That is very rare combination for age gap rationship. How didyourpparents meet?
That's adorable! Humor is definitely the right way to handle an unorthodox situation. As long as it's healthy and happy ❤
My wife is 10 years older than me. We'll be celebrating our 42nd wedding anniversary next month. And she's still hot.
I'm in my 30s. I've dated both older and younger women. (I have limits with how big of an age gap I'll go with both though). From my experience there are pros and cons to dating both older and younger.
On the one hand: as a single man with with no kids younger women get a big point because they are less likely to already have kids. They're also less likely to rush into starting a family where women around my age or older who are childless might want to push things past my comfort zone because their "clock is ticking". As someone who wants to take his time getting to know someone before committing to a relationship and wants to achieve a few more life goals before talking about having kids, thats a big advantage for younger women.
On the other hand: older women (or around my age) are more likely to know what they want in life, don't play as much games with you and can be more mature. Personally for me, this is very attractive. In fact my strongest romances were with older women and a lot of that played into it. Younger women (especially if they're really young) are still trying to figure out who they are, play games and can be very black & white in how they think. Many of them are still in a mind set I've grown out of, which can be a big turn off.
no disrespect but as a straight male with the UNITED STATES LAWS romantically i'm still interested in females ages 18 through 122 with all-time AND current attractive faces
@@youtuber3328 18 through 122, huh?
yeah ONLY if they have all-time or current attractive faces
My parents are 10 years apart mom was 19 and dad was 29 than they married and still happy married childhood sweethearts
you're naive stop pretending like you're living in some fantasy world
I also experienced this. Dated someone just 6 years younger and all their friends thought I was too old. They were older than I was on the inside but we broke up due to external pressure. The issue wasn't a generational one but there was a difference in how we were raised. They were very sheltered, as were her friends, and I was not even cared after in any appreciable degree by my parents. I think the 'community disapproval' sublimated the real problem though, which was the bubble of exclusion their parents instituted and that they continued.
Me and my boyfriend have an age gap 23 years, I was 23 when I met him and started dating when I was 24 we've been together 5 years.
He looks a lot younger than his age, so I didn't realise how much older he was and how large the age gap was until a few dates in.
Before we met, I'd lost both my parents and lived alone and supported myself for several years.
So I don't really know if we automatically mature at 25, I had to grow up fast and I didn't relate to people my own age.
Beware of the scammer 😮💨 good Gosh
you'll find others in a similar situation as you if you keep looking. They're out there.
Your case is underlining that every situation is unique and can't always be thrown on a pile.
Be safe friend.
@@aydadae7337 misandrist are offended hahahahah. If a women is older than the guy, bet those women didn't bat an eye
Age may just be a number but life isn’t. You can get along with someone; speak a common language; have similar values; be commonly resolute; share interests; but perhaps, their taste in movies is abysmal and they think the same of you. How important is a decade-plus age gap in deciding whether or not to date them? Conversely, everything can just be horribly off when it comes to how you two compare. Do you still date just because you’re the same age?
yeah people tend to think the internet knows best, but sometimes age gaps aren't a bad thing. Hell they've been around longer than all of us and today we have the internet, weird world.
I dont like people who are similar to me because people who are similar to me are miserable and awful. People who are different and alien to me are kinder and sweeter and I know that.
I don't know how I feel about the "satisfaction" study. From my observations, people in age gap relationships are used to having to justify it to others, so I would imagine this would bleed into any studies they take part in. If I was used to being hounded for dating an older person, I would have that bias going into the test to want to prove everyone wrong. I would want the result to be overwhelmingly positive for my own validation.
Older men are less likely to make the mistakes that they made when they were younger, so everything from sharing household chores to arguing less often over silly things, to not emotionally manipulating their partners, and just being a lot more reasonable would make older men easier to live with; provided they are truly in love with their younger partner.
This would make almost every single study about relationships absolutely useless. You have no choice but to accept the study at face value, because a study based on feeling will always have bias
Which meant no such studies of true satisfaction can be done since it would always be biased one way or another
@@rafaeterna1081 Not necessarily. It depends on how the study is done. In quite a few studies, if the participants are allowed to remain annonymous (not give their real names and if it's online not even any other info they don't feel like adding, either). In annonymous studies - predictably - you get some pretty honest answers that often gel with other self-reported statistics on the same subjects.
@@tidbit1877 ehhhh I dunno how much that really correlates with age. Or gender. It also suggests that the inverse (older woman, younger man) is more likely to be unhealthy.
There's a 10 years age gab between me and my bf, we have been together for 5 years now and we are sometimes extremely creepy in likeness.
I have a big sister his age so luckily im not out of touch with his growing years, i was pretty much brought up in the way with the same influences somehow because of my big sis.
The thing that makes it work for us is that i have been and still are more mature than others my age (im 26 rn) and he might act a little younger at times than his peers, but he can also be serious when needed. We have many of the same interests and his friends like me and took me in quickly and my friends did the same with him.
We had to support each other a lot from the very beginning as he was in the middle of his Bachelor education and I had to pause my life to sort out my mental health.
Support, understanding, being open, communication, and common interests is the fundamental bricks to our relationship.
We both forget how old we are when we are together c:
the problem isnt so much only on the literal mathematical difference between two people’s ages (tho it can still be a factor) but the power dynamics. also you cant just mention that person a is 10 years younger/older than person b. the important detail that is unfortunately usually left out is when those two ppl (or when the poly couple) started dating. When a 19 yr old and 25 year old (6 year gap, not at all very big, literally less than 10) start dating, that is not the same thing when a 25 year old dates a 31 year old. 19 is still a teen and barely an adult. And yeah this leaving out of that detail happens a lot especially in conversations regarding this topic which is really sad.
You're automatically assuming a power dynamic, just because of a difference in number.
While one partner may be more mature. That doesn't mean they're going to want to or be able to force things out of the other partner
@@flakgun153 I’m not assuming. Power dynamics is the term describing the terms of a relationship. It’s not a good or bad thing. What is the bad thing is when it’s not balanced. That’s the thing tho. It’s not just the difference in number. An example. A 25 year old new employee and their 30 year old boss-not an age gap problem but the fact that one is a new employee and the other is the boss. Technically it’s the boss that has the authority and more power here as a boss. That’s just describing the facts of the matter. Doesn’t mean anything yet.
Also mature is a vague/relative word. Just cause someone is like 30s doesn’t automatically mean they’re more mature than someone who is younger. Assuming that is what you mean by mature. If not and instead, then using the example of someone who is the employee and manager/boss that is not immediately an imbalanced power dynamics but when that boss abuses their position then there it is, the unfairness. I’m not saying that when one is more mature than their partner that immediately means that they are going to want to force things. Why would someone mature (referring to someone who is responsible and grown up kind of definition, regardless of age) want to force on someone? I was referring to ppl that force/encourage an inappropriate relationship or when it’s clear that the other person doesn’t consent are the immature ones. Mature isn’t what i meant to describe that type of horrible person. By mature, I’m not using the definition of like what demographic they’re a part of in terms of like age but rather the choice they make.
Sorry i’m like scattered and redundant but I hope I clarified on what I meant.
I really just need the age of consent to go up to 25 because these discussions about age gaps are incredibly arbitrary and grow quite tiring to read.
@@AntiSoraXVI in our country age of consent is 20/21 (for marriage)
@@AntiSoraXVI age of consent for what exactly? I thought 25 was referring to the age at which you might have better odds with an age gap
I'll just note that my wife and I had an extremely happy marriage for 30 years until her death (from cancer + vascular dementia). We married when I was 25 and she was 47. A very equal relationship too. So they can work very well.
please accept my condolences and it's nice to hear these positive details and age is still just a number PERIOD
I love that I’m early but I’m too early to read all the funny stories and comments to come 😭
Same
Same
My husband is 22 years older than me. I’m in my 40s, so it’s not really a deal. I’m not exactly young either 😂
My late father was between 10 & 11 years older than my mother
My husband is between 13 & 14 years older than myself.
I think both partners need certain personality traits for a substantial age gap relationship to be what’s best for both partners in both the short term and long term ❤️
I'm in a substantial age gap relationship and have found an interesting dynamic in our modern world. With the advent of "Nerd Culture" two people can be decades apart and passionate about the same movies, books, games, memes, music, etc. It really busts down one of the main inconveniences of being in an age gap partnership. Another aspect is the prevalence of good psychological information. People are unpacking their baggage much faster which brings the "maturity" level much closer together much sooner.
This is the impression I have too!!
Personally it's not about age gap but more on the partners consciousness level and awareness.
Someone can be in their 50s with a consciousness level of someone in their 30s.
So age really doesn't matter as we move from one consciousness level to another.
I maybe old schooled in my thinking, but if a couple with a considerable age gap is living happily and doing fine then it honestly isn’t my business to question it whatsoever. The problem would arise if it’s some adults dating someone below 18, but besides that I just don’t care about the age gap and I think it is pretty much a non issue for the most part.
any woman upset about anything above the age of 18 is disguising her jealousy of younger women--competition, in her mind--as "righteous indignation about predatory behavior."
A naive or overly trusting young man who has a lot of money can be preyed on by women, but you never seem feminists concerned about that. They only believe in "power dynamics" when women somehow benefit from analyzing power dynamics.
Youngster: I want to go to war on the orders of a 50 year old man!
Society: Go get 'em, tiger!
Youngster: I want to vote for a 50 year old man into the highest office of the world.
Society: God bless America!
Youngster: I want to take out a $200,000 loan from a 50 year old banker a Gender Studies degree.
Society: Well, you're an adult, it's your choice, go for it!
Youngster: I want to date a 50 year old m-
Society: OMG no! He's using his mind control powers over you! He'll make you into his puppet! Run away!
Most of us ladies are disgusted because we remember being preyed on and manipulated at a ripe age of 18
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Yeah, but there's a clear-cut difference between predators and men who want to get married and start a family.
@@nikolavojnovic6552 Say that to me who has trust issues ON ALL HUMANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the age gap or muh power dynamics argument is pure nonsense
if we're going to be primitive here, a human male, regardless of financial or social laws, can easily overpower and overcome a women with sheer strength alone, they why aren't they advocating for laws agaisnt marriage or partnership?
For another example. I have absolute dominance over my pet, why am I allowed to keep one given that it's life is basically in the palm of my hands?
Men are attracted to youth, femininity, and basically everything that isn't an old wrinkled hag with loose folds and a bodycount stretching beyond the one hundreds, and social-coditioning and brainwashing can, and will never, win over this biological fact.
I'm 20 (female) and my bf is 37, different cultural background, and we are on a LDR. Haha, sounds like a nightmare and impossible, I know. Yes we are on a different stage of life and ngl we had lots of disagreements and misunderstandings at first but once we know each other's communication style and how we judge things that's when things start to get better. We are both broke tho lol, so money is definitely out of the picture. We realize we don't always have to agree on the same thing and disagreements don't always be the end of the relationship. We just focus on what could bring us together. He's struggling with mid-life crisis and I am still anxiously discovering things and exploring myself. He's a lot more calmer than me so it's kinda neutralize my anxious self, and I am generally a lot more energic than him so he's more inspired to try things out of his usual habit. We don't put a high expectation on each other and just take things slowly. We have a goal to meet up in the next 2 years and until that we just try to focus on improving ourselves and support each other. As the younger person in this relationship, I have never found him being manipulative or controlling to me. He is far from being restrictive. He never told me to do this or do that, he just let me be me and make my own decisions. He only gives advices when I ask him to and never forced me to follow his advices. Compared to my past relationship (my ex is the same age as me), this one honestly feels healthier. Then again, we haven't known yet if we would actually work out together in real life or not but so far I have a positive feeling about this as we have been talking to each other online for a year. If we ever don't work out in real life, at least we have tried and I don't think there would be any regrets.
Where you bf from😊
I feel like self reporting on how your relationship is when you're being studied doesn't work.
I’m never dating an older man ever again. I wasted majority of my 20s and now I’m a single mother. I was 24 when I met him at 43. He’s still a frivolous partier hitting bars and clubs up. Had the time of his life while I was pregnant and I just felt like I wasted so much time and regret going into parenthood with someone like him.
Yhhh I never recommend age gap relationships especially while young. It feels wrong and the majority of the time it’s exploitative when you’re young. Dw though. You still have *so* much time 🥰
@@potato1084 i mean after 20 it's about your mindset which makes you mature,not age.
Many people especially after 20 get super mature while many even after 30s stay immature
@@Wealthismybirthrightage gap as in younger age for guys could be great though, because younger guys comparatively wouldn't or couldn't manupulate or do something awful as compared to older men.
Imo younger man older woman relationship works much better and has much better connection as compared to older men younger woman, cause older woman tend to satisfy their ego by controlling younger woman,but younger men probably wouldn't do that and most likely could open up and could have better sense of emotional security to a older woman,and if the younger guy is nice and serious about the relationship,he could also be trustworthy
The hiccup is not the age but the type of man that is fallen for
If both persons are in their 20s it can still be a disaster (and usually is)
The whole point of being with someone older (10-15 gap etc) is to accept a stable, responsible person that is ready for a life long commitment.
Regardless of the same or older if the person is ready to settle down, and has that kind, patient, adaptable character, they are a win 🏆
Right because no 20 year old would ever act like that.
Age-gap relationships usually refer to an age difference of at least 10 years between partners. In general, the definition of age-gap relationships and what is and is not acceptable varies based on a person's sex, age, and cultural norms.
I'm in an age gap relationship, and when I told my friends and family about it, they were all at least slightly concerned and some even claimed I was being manipulated (as i am younger person in the couple). However after they met my partner those opinions completely shifted, despite being older he has young mannerisms and also looks a lot younger. I don't know if it's the fact that he seems younger than he is that makes it easier for people to accept, but at the end of the day I'm in a happy, loving relationship and I only ever notice the age difference when other people bring it up.
U from?
@@ab-jc8nv I'm from the Uk
@@rubymoon3182 oh nice, I m Asian, u like forest life?
@@rubymoon3182 hey
@@rubymoon3182 u there?
I'm 36 and my husband is 19 years older but it works well, most likely due to us having similar life experiences and interests/goals. I also hate the "old soul" thing...but really, I've been told that I' am an "old soul" by many people throughout my adulthood. We honestly forget about our age gap because we work so well. That being said, I dated someone older before and there was a weird dynamic going on where I was definitely being controlled and treated as a child. And when I say "weird", I mean...it was really WEIRD. It's cringey to think about even now. lol But, in my opinion, it really depends on the couple, as well as the individul people and their intentions, just like any relationship.
I think the "old soul" thing isn't nearly as cringey as "you're mature for your age" because the implications of the latter being the older person is "immature" for their age. Happy that you have a great relationship with your husband and thank you for sharing your other experience. as well because people love generalizing when it really is a case by case thing.
@@tanvirashahid5483 good point!!! That IS super cringey!!! And you're welcome! Yes, it's too easy to generalize in any case for sure!
Thank you for sharing. I also am starting to talk with a woman who is younger than me. Like described here. I am watching more videos like this, hopefully I get more educated on this subject.
My nan was 31 with 4 children when she got together with my grandad who was 19. They were happily married for 53 years. He adopted my father and his brothers and they had another daughter. He was a loving father to all of them for his entire life. Don't let anyone tell you what is or isn't right for you. Good luck to you both and I hope you have a very happy life together.
I mean Anna and Daddy Squarespace has made it work so anything is possible 🙂#LoveisLove
My parents have 12 year gap and they met when my mom was 29 and Dad 41 and they have a lot friends closer to my mums age or even younger and they get along well. I think the age gap has a bad rep because of the 30 yo men dating exclusively girls under 23 and that’s just screams manipulation.
One would think 20 year olds have a mind of their own...
@@Azmoddan Technically speaking the neural network in your brain isn't fully formed and fixed until 21. But speaking from the perspective of a 40year old; girls that are under 24-25 basically are children, they don't even know what major they want to study, and they've barely even lived on their own at that age, so yeah, they're pretty child-like, especially mentally. There are, of course, exceptions.
@@Azmoddan they do. Dont listen to this rubbish. Anyone over age 18 has self autonomy
0:58 funny how "western countries" is just north america
I'm male, about to turn 39. I've found dating in your late 30's is really rough. It feels like women who are my age have all had some pretty rough experiences by now and they're very easy to frighten off if I trigger a particular bell. I don't blame them for that, especially the ones who have been through a divorce.
More recently I've come to recognise I'm similarly affected and will drop right out of an emerging relationship if something reminds me of a particularly nasty ex.
Sometimes I miss the recklessness of dating in my 20's when you weren't so worried about flags and warning signs and being careful. Obviously I'm not saying ignore your better judgement and just have a go. I just miss the bliss of ignorance I guess.
Maybe that's one of the reasons the age gap works? If I were to date a 25 year old, maybe she'd be less risk averse and there'd be less tension in the initial construction phase of the relationship. I feel like most of the risk would be hers though and I'd feel like such a creep all the time.
So, single to the death I guess. Some distant cousin will be stoked when they inherit my stuff in 40 years XD
I totally agree with your point in a lot of ways. What's interesting is some of the most scarred women in their 30s-40s are because they've been in these age gap relationships in their 20s. All relationships can be abusive, but ones with age gaps are particularly abusive due to the power dynamics in play.
I think that ability to use experience and react to avoid issues later down the road is why there are men clamouring to date younger girls. Because they don't have those boundaries and expectations in place and men who shouldn't have gotten through the vetting stage, do.
I’m 39 and whenever I talk to a woman in their 30s they have way too much baggage for me to want to deal with or they are on the prowl to lock down a guy to have kids with before it is too late. They are essentially invisible to me in respect to finding them attractive enough to date. I have no problems getting girls in their 20s being interested in me and they are much more fun to be around. Just stay fit and focus on your grind as a man.
"once bitten, twice shy" goes the saying.
I think two people that have been traumatized, are doing the right thing by NOT ignoring red flags. However, finding better people not only depends on finding better people, it also depends on you working on your own red flags. It's healthy that two traumatized people meet each other and recognize they won't get un-traumatized (get better) by getting with each other.
If you can, get a therapist that you feel comfortable with, build trust with them and work on your own growth. With time (and time will pass anyway, so you might as well see a therapist in the mean time), they'll push you toward finding the right people in different environments as a final step, or sometimes sooner than that.
Everyone has flaws, but it's about whether those flaws control your behavior and make you a bad partner.
@@jamjox9922 If a girl can't take a joke and see's that as a red flag somethings wrong with her. Just because her ex was a bit of a jokester doesn't mean they all cheat.
@@psianime that's so gross and you're telling on yourself that women your age see your red flags a mile away while younger ones are to naive to see them or look past them. This isn't the brag you think it is.
10 years is the oldest I can go. I tried to date a man who was 20 years my senior and.. the difference in our maturity and general outlook was startling.
Why couldn't you be as mature as him? Women mature faster then boys...so what's the problem?
My gf is 22 years younger. We get along so well and I have never had a better partner and match. And it is family and society that cause us issues. But just us, amazing.
you're mentally deranged for defending 22 year age gap relationships this so called "judgment" from family and society is common sense if you think it's causing you "issues" you don't want to be ready for the consequences and just want to preach "age gap acceptance" under the false premise of "inclusivity" and "diversity" you need serious help
That says something about you. You are really undeveloped for your age.
@@TaTa-xd5yt true
@@TaTa-xd5yt You probably strummed your own banjo during The Shape of Water, where a woman makes love to a fish. You probably thought Forest Gump, where a woman beds a man's whose brain is so underdeveloped his favorite book is Curious George, was a beautiful romance. lleh ot oG.
I lost friends in their 20ies and 30ies. So who is to say that the older partner in an age gap relationship is to die or get sick first. Maybe she lives to a 100 and he dies 84 or visa versa. If there is love, that is what matters. Blessing to all who have found love and are in a healthy relationship. Good for you 💚
There’s age gaps and then theres taking advantage of the age gap.
I'm 37 and bf is 58. Best relationship, better than the marriage I had who was my age
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To me it depends on two things: How old was the youngest when they met/started dating, and is the older person consistently going after young people.
I mean there are often times when people knew each other long before but dated much later
I dated someone 17 years older. I felt objectified the entire time and didn't like it at all. I know some people have good relationships but I don't find that to be the norm and I didn't like the experience and felt I was being taken advantage of. I would have preferred that person properly acknowledge our age gap and stop trying to downplay it and run away from the truths, then I think there could have been a possibility of it actually working. Every relationship has flaws and I'd rather face them head on and discuss them, talk about how I feel, how they feel, and how to face it rather than just pretend it's all fine and dandy.
Yeah, you see this is the issue. So many comments are talking about how they had happy age gap relationships but a lot of men in particular objectify younger women and that’s just toxic and slimy.
Ohhhhh what a surprise. A 37 year old man likes a 20 year old woman not for her "personality". We develop a lot through our teens and 20s. At 28, I am different from who I was at 18. Most of the big age gap success stories are men and women over their 30s who have life experiences and enough maturity to understand and communicate likes, dislikes, interests, disapproval.
You felt objectified because you are an object.
That’s ur fault then
oh boy, I've been waiting for this one for SO long
Regardless of age, trust is the most important aspect of a relationship
I am the 1%. My girlfriend of 11 years is 22 years older than me, we have a great relationship just seems to get better and better each year.
Are we aware that age will likely sink us at some point, yes... but not today. Any relationship will eventually end (death or disillusion). We could break up and find others out of fear of the gap but your just trading a known issue for an unknown one. So we stay together for so long as we both shall love.
how old are you?
Girlfriend of 11 years???
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I'm in a fairly significant age gap relationship myself. We are 17 years apart. Statistically speaking, age gaps of this magnitude have a much higher chance of failing. I myself am also somewhat critical of a large age gap relationship despite being in one myself. Age isn't just an number. It translates to different stages of life, experiences, energy levels, physical abilities etc. Not saying that you don't have these differences with people your own age, but the differences likely magnify significantly with someone from a different generation. Too many differences lead to more complexities and more challenges. So it's not hard to understand that with an 17 year age gap, you are working with more complexities and challenges than an average same-age relationship. There are also realistic problems like one partner getting too old whereas the other one is still strong, or the older partner inevitably dying much earlier. I'm in my early 30s, and not idealistic or naive enough to pretend those aren't potential problems. They scare me. But I also think what I have with my partner is a rare unicorn, we are so mentally and physically compatible. So it's a conscious decision to embrace this relationship despite the risks.
Citing Nigerian studies.... Astrology... Calls Square Space, Daddy. This person is very smart.
Works. We all learn from each other
What troubles me about large age gap relationships is that from the male perspective it is pretty much always ego based. I.e. the guy likes having someone younger and pretty to show off so the appeal of the younger woman seems to be primarily physical. All of a sudden he's a stud and feels young again. I don't know of a single large age difference couple where the guy would say that he was struck by the woman's personality. In fact from what I've heard the less personality the woman has the easier it is to influence her, and the more appealing she is. The older man doesn't have as many options as the younger woman usually so he will treat her better than a guy her own age who has as many options as she does. So yes, women might feel happier in those kind of relationships but it's often cause the guy knows he wouldn't find another young woman to boost his ego so he simply treats her well. It doesn't seem to work particularly well with career women who have their own life and mind, and would present a challenge to this kind of a guy - too much work. Personally I've been hit on by men of all ages. When I was 12 I had 40+ guys trying to flirt with me, which really affected me for life. I don't want to be wanted for my age and this is always the appeal if you are dating someone much older. I want to be wanted for me - the whole of me, I'd never settle for being someone's trophy no matter what
Pft, I know old studs who have so much options, more than in their youths. So of them go for typical trophy wives but others try to find the diamond in the roughs - brains & beauties.
Career-oriented, A-type personalities women can be tough to date, regardless of age. I avoid those because they often are too controlling &/or busy but I know some rare men who pursue those types of women.
@@Apocalymon Yes, so they go for women who basically become decorations to their own existence - hence they feed their egos. Ego is pretty much always an insecurity so in general most intelligent and self-respecting women would avoid men like this. The appeal is usually the money and sorry - but unless you're Brad Pitt, you are not a stud to someone who is younger by more than a decade. The woman will pretend that she sees the guy as stud but actually she will mostly see him as a dad who provides security and stability. You can still be appealing within your age group but you will not appeal physically to a woman much younger who can have an actual "stud" her own age. Men who think otherwise are fooling themselves. This comes from a woman who has had her share (and more) of older, wealthy and well groomed men pursuing her. Perhaps it's because I am a "career woman" that you're avoiding that I see these men as sad and insecure. But this is also the opinion of pretty much every woman I know - regardless of her level of ambition.
@@marsovie5456 small sample size. There's about 4 billion women. I studied anthropology & neurology. There's a wide range of temperaments, likes, dislikes, etc when it comes to women. There's gerontophiliacs, You can find them easily on online forums.
I would agree that silver foxes are a minority of older men but man, some of them can pull of polygyny. My high school friends married a 45 year old when she was 18. That was 11 years ago. They're happily married with 4 beautiful children. My grandpa was 28 & my grandma was 13 when they got married; 6 children. Happily married until a disease took her life. I'm going for an intelligent, cute, ambitious, non-promiscuous girl when settling down.
I'm speculating, but I believe you're sourgraping because the old men are going after the young ones. Subconsciously you see them as competion. It's like really tall girls who disdain short girls who take really tall men off the dating market.
I won't date a woman in my age range unless she's VERY cute, HIGHLY intelligent but also lacks an A-type personality. HYPER A-type personality girls are a turn off; I'm okay with tomboys, in fact I'm pursuing one, but I'm not down with Boss Girls aka CEO-type, 🤢🤮. That's my personal preference.
@@Apocalymon well you can't generalize your view point based on two examples.
@@estrellaln3836 I agree with you, I can't. But I can deconstruct the other person's point who generalized more than I did.
4 BILLION women on Earth, so much variety in terms of behavior. We can talk about averages but one shouldn't dismiss the exceptions too.
My wife and I are 14 years apart but she's older, we fall in the 1%. Our relationship is strong, been together almost 10 yrs and married for 6 yrs. I wouldn't change it for anything.
That’s so interesting that only 1% of men are in an age gap relationship with an older woman. *My partner is 8.5 years older than I am, so I found that statistic really shocking* 😅😳
Yeah I thought it would be more common! My husband is 2 1/2 years younger than me, not the biggest gap but still means he got married young compared to his friends
@@joyoriordan that’s cool. How did you guys meet? 😊
@@djvelocity Through Christian Union at Uni. We weren’t in the same year but had mutual friends
@@joyoriordan that’s awesome. My experience was similar, I met my spouse when I was a student on my practicum as she was working at that same facility (we were both nurses at the time). I wish you a long and prosperous relationship with your spouse 😊🙌
Yeah myself included but there are a lot of us commenting it seems.
The wall comes for all, and now it has come for you
The wall, lol, lmao.
As long as it's not abusive, I don't see what the problem is. I also wish people would stop immediately assuming that every age-gap relationship is abusive. Lastly, most of the issues people have with age-gap relationships are factors that are basically prevalent in EVERY single relationship. Abuse and power dynamics aren't merely present in age-gap couples, so trying to pass that off as a reason against it is pretty ignorant. A woman who chooses to be with a rich guy is perfectly fine... but if he's 10 years older, THAT'S what determines she's being taken advantage of?!
Actually every power dynamics should be taken into account : age, class, gender race, disability, etc.
They all are very important and inescapable parameters of a relationship.
It's not about if it's fine or right or allowed or legal but about balance
Relationship, even fueled with love, can be the most dangerous jail to the vulnerable.
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@@DrAbadie or you could stop over analysing every aspect of your relationship and just be happy with someone? Don't get me wrong, if there is clear abuse happening then that is unacceptable, but some people like to be looked after or be the provider, or don't care about societal power dynamics when being in a relationship. If you meet someone and fall in love and are happy, who cares about who's older, what race people are, or anything else? Just seems like trying to find reasons to not be happy with someone.
@@DrAbadie top quality debating right there
I remember seeing somewhere that the percentage gap makes rhe difference. I can't remember the exact maths but it was something along the lines of a 20 year old having less life experience than a 30 year old - like we think there's quite a difference between those ages. (And there is tbh)
Whereas a 30 year old and a 40 year old kinda have the same level of life experiences, although obv differing factors and stuff...
Might be talking out my arse but it's out there somewhere!
Yeah, age gaps become less of a big deal when people get older. Playboy had a "hilarious" rule of half your age plus 7 being the golden ratio
THANK YOU for mentioning that the same rules don't apply for 25 and younger. I see all sorts of creeps going after 18 year olds cause it's legal, and like....sorry, but I'm 23 and there's a huge gap between me and any 18 or 19 year old. I didn't see it when I was that age, but those are still kids - stay tf away.
Should probably raise the voting age to 25 as well then.
Yet its all the women in the comments "I was 18-19 and he was blank years older." Most women date for resources and comfort. But if a man that's 35 said he dated a 19 y/o (which is weird) he'd be put on a watch list.
That doesn't make sense to me I went off to do extra work in LA as a 29 year old and met a guy I just clicked with, to my surprise he was 23. He was taken anyway so I didn't try to get with him but to think he couldn't consent to that relationship if he was single and interested, seems weird to me, I'm sure he could tell if he was interested.
I think it's situation to situation. Sure, statistically 18 and 19 are going to be less mature, but depending on how fast they had to grow up, some of those people are already going to be far more mature than their peers and dating in their age range would be weird for them. I'm not saying older people should make 18-19 yr olds their type, I'm saying some of those younger people actually match well with older partners. Unfortunately historically there has been a LOT of ill intentioned people after exploitation and that's awful, but that doesn't mean no relationship with an age gap and person under 25 can be healthy.
@@Silverburstnelson Thank you, I completely agree! Not sure who liked my comment or not but I think it's so situational. I could give more examples but I won't!
Im in a relationship with a guy who's 6 years older than me ( for me its a huge age gap since all the men I've dated before were around my age ). All i can say is that I've never been this happy before dating younger men
6 isn't that big at all, unless you're a teenager.
Same here!
6 years isn’t even a gap unless you’re a teenager
If you are 20+, 1 to 9 isn't a big age gap
If you are a teenager 4 years a massive age gap for you 😂😭🤣
I dated a woman with 4 children for years who was 20 years older than me. The pros were that the family and children saw to this day that I loved, respected, provided, and her children, I of course learned a helluva alot from her and enjoyed the maturity of a woman. the cons were that she at time was jealous of me around her friends or their younger daughters thinking I might get hit on or hit on them. she had friends who were very jealous of her and our relationship being that the friends saw how differently I treated her compared to their husbands/boyfriends who seemed very basic and treated them like luggage.
Why did it end?
Saw the title and immediately wanted to know your thoughts on it. I'm in a 19 year age gap, I'm 22 and my boyfriend is 42. We work together really well and are able to talk about issues. I think we have a good connect because we started off as friends for a year and it slowly turned into love. Definitely do not feel exploited and if I do notice that something feels unfair I have no problem voicing my disapproval lol
I was in a similar relationship ( i was the older ).
My main problem was with social norms.
You just need to be really conscious of the power dynamics at play and to not fall into dependance on him for your living (one of the biggest risk)
@@DrAbadie as long a you marry him first final dependence isn't much of a risk.
It’s not impossible for it work. But there is a lot of bullshit around too. I definitely was one of those very young girls with way older guys and now that I’m in my 40s I realise how they forced the circumstances to make it look like “things just happened “ when in reality I was gently led into a direction I didn’t realise while the other part had a very clear idea of what they wanted to do. I wasn’t very experienced and had had only a partner before that so I fell for all of it.
Not going to go into the full details but as long as you feel safe and that you are not being pushed behind limits you are not comfortable with, especially sex. One thing is being open minded and another doing all the stuff he wants from the get go because it’s “normal”.
If you are doing well, I’m happy for you.
Christ could actually be your father
im 22 been in a relationship with a guy 30 years my senior for nearly a year now he's 53 and it so far has been my least toxic relationship, some people judge against it saying if a man that age goes after me he has something wrong with him, that he only wants to use me, he only wants one thing ect. I disagree if that were the case he would of left long ago.
Hii how r u? Understanding is important
My parents are 10 and a half years apart (Dad being older). They've been married for 30 years and it's one of the best relationships I've ever seen.
That's great! How old were they when they met each other?
@@selohcin My Dad was 34 and my mom was 24. She'd just finished college.
My grandparents have a decade gap between them ,my granda was in his twenties and on there first night out together he asked her to marry him,she said “ask me when your not drunk “ and so the morning after the first thing he said was “will you marry me now “, I’m glad this worked I wouldn’t be here otherwise
I think that the whole raising women to want a well together man also plays largely in this because how many 20-something year old hold the same status, money, maturity, power etc as a 40-50 yr old?
My nan and grandad first got together when she was 31 and he was 19. They were happily married for 53 years soooooo... the 'rules' are less important than the individuals. If you are in love, happy, and it's all legal, then screw what anyone else thinks.
Definitely agree with the 25 y/o distinction. When it gets closer to the 20s & worse teens, the margin for a healthy age gap shrinks substantially imo. IE me and my fiancé are 21 & 26 respectfully. An age gap I was kinda uncomfy with initially.
Her 19 y/o friend saw how well we were getting along & started dating a 27 y/o 1. at her job 2. was still married but "separated" & 3. Had a kid with his wife. You can guess the 27 y/o is still with his wife & still comes around to screw the 19 y/o.
I think the biggest determining factor for relationships are life situation compatibility. My fiancé & I are both in similar places financially, career, & family dynamics wise, & the age thing STILL comes up in situations. All depends on life situation and intent.
"healthy age gap" is nonsensical stop bringing up your own personal experiences
@@fatimahanwaar306 lol. Make me.
The way y’all act on the internet is hilarious.
@@johnnycrenshaw9438 grow up
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I wish there wasn't that much stigma against men that date or are married to women older than them.
There is stigma against men dating older women and women typically don’t find younger men attractive due to immaturity among other things .
My maternal grandmother was 6 years older than my maternal grandfather. Not technically an age gap relationship ( less than 10years of a difference), but she was older than him all the same.
You’ll be stigmatized no matter who you date
@@vladislavkozlov4978 every woman I know fends young men attractive but they’d get shamed if they admit it or pursue a younger man
there isnt
I feel likse this is Anna trying to convince herself that its ok to have a crush/date someone older than her. Which is ok btw, its just funny the way it comes across reminds me of arming myself with a bunch of studies about positive impacts of socializing with pets when I was trying to get my parents to let us adopt a dog, it worked btw
One thing I think about on this subject are the consequences to the younger partner having to watch the older partner age, become frail and die.
Don't think I would like to subject someone I love to that.
The couples that I know with an age gap that’s a non-issue .
This is the main reason I would find dating someone more than 10 years younger than myself immoral. They'd lose me early on.
@@Dennis-nc3vw I don't think people mate for life anymore. When you die they'll be sad for a while, then they'll move on and find someone else.
Many things in a loving union will be a trade-off. The older spouse may offer material and wisdom advantages the other can use early in the relationship while when the older may become more dependent for the final couple years, now the younger is capable and willing to provide special care. When a same age couple reaches the age of dependency, as much as they may love to care for their spouse, they may have their own health needs that prevent them.
This is my greatest concern in my relationship as well, being 9 years older than my wife. Men already tend to die younger.
That being said, in our case...None of my grandparents died before 80, and I'm working very hard to be healthy for her, so maybe it's less of a concern than it may seem.
Imagine committing a crime and then saying you couldn't be held legally responsible because you were under 25 and your partner was over 25. The entire world would laugh in your face.
Ahhhh … finally someone with commonsense pointing out the obvious. I salute you !!
I'm married to someone 14 years my senior. I'm 37 and he's 50 (51 this year). We've been together since I was 19 and I've never felt taken advantage of. But I had several factors going for me that other 19 year olds did not. I had been on my own and working full time since 17, I was an only child to boomer parents who were divorced and had to grow up much faster than most, and I was very independently minded and driven. I would not have stayed with him if I'd ever felt pressured, endangered, or manipulated. I had that once as a teen and learned quickly what abuse looked like.
We've been together for going on for 18 years come next month. I wouldn't trade him or our experiences for anything. I look forward to planning our 20 year anniversary together. (We don't celebrate our wedding anniversary as it was more of a formal tying of the knot.)
I find it a bit odd to not include statistics about young adults. I think they make up a lot of age gap relationships
My only worry would be children and health. I certainly don't want to burden my family having to look after me and I wouldn't like my children to lose a parent before they are grown. Otherwise "it might end in heartbreak" is not really a reason. You have one life, if you are happy then try
In an age gap between an older man and a young woman, its seems to mostly be based on sex. Their status appears to be impressive to the young woman, but its probably less than average with women their age. The other way around, I think would just be based on emotional connection.
and money for the women
Youre just judging now
Lol nice outsider judgments... that's literally what we are not going for here
@@AppleGameification obviously
i think on average, relationships with older women and young men are less likely to be shallow, and tend to be more genuine.
Do long distance ones!! I want to know your opinion
i always forget the age gap me and my boyfriend have (13 years). i think if you klick with a person, the age isnt an issue. at least if both partners are over 25 ;)
I'm so glad you raised the point about the under 25's mostly being in a bad situation for multiple reasons
Well, I turned out fine. It's my dad I'd worry about, he's 54 and is completely socially isolated from the world because of his toxic girlfriend who commands his every life. But I guess I'm just a dumb 24 year old who can't learn from her mistakes 🙃
No need to take it personally dude. There’s obviously going to be outliers in every group
@@lucieblaise8793 You responded like an immature 24-year-old.
Damn I wish I was born a woman. I was in a bad situation but I had to pull myself out lol. chicks can just date older guys and be fine lol
@@MrLazerCatt you could have also dated an older man if you wanted it
Sadly I get to see the other end of this situation. As a healthcare worker I am often confronted with women in their mid-60s who are called to the hospital to "fetch" men in their late 70s or early 80s who have wandered away from home and been unable to find their way home due to dementia. Or, equally distressing, women in their mid-60s, clutching the hands of men in their late 70s or 80s who are dying of age-related disease. The grief on these women's faces tells the story both of losing the significant partner in their lives either through the ravages of dementia or chronic disease. But it also shows the realisation that they will not be sharing their graceful decline with their life partner.
Roastie hits the wall. Now mad. Many such cases.
Don't you love the 'as long as they're over 25, because consent is important' comment? Yep, now the age of consent is 25.
Why do y'all hate WOMEN and are obsessed with GIRLS
@@Absurdistoutlook a 20 yr old is a women Karen
I flippin' HATE men who are like "she's 18 so it's legal" meanwhile they are 30+ themselves and think it's totally okay. No, it's not against the law, but you and I both know why you are going after an 18-23 year old girl, and it's not for the "right" reasons. Unfortunately those girls are not yet emotionally mature enough to be aware of why older men are truly after them. I was once in such a relationship myself, being 19 and with a man 15 years older. Well, it was the most traumatizing relationship I ever had and now me being 27, he is still dating barely legal girls.
That is the issue, these older men don't go after barely legal girls because it's "right" or they fall in love with you, they are after you for purely sexual reasons and will never commit or treat u right in the long run, they'll only replace you and leave you traumatized.
"She's legal" is code for "If she were younger, and it was legal, than I'd date her still." If someone's morality is always guided by the laws, that means they're finding ways in which the laws don't apply to them. Big red flags.
@@jamjox9922 Exactly. If 15 year olds were legal these type of men would be going after and getting excited by that.
@@MsBombastix misandrist doesn't need to write an essay to prove they hate men. I bet u didn't bat an eye if there's a female teacher having an affair with their own student just because it's a women. Many female teacher has an affair with their own students, but never been brought up
@@denpc4238 I don't agree with that. Yes I found 18 to 25 year old spettier when I was that same age. I am 50 now and what I find beautiful changed over the years. usually I find women between 30 and 60 more beautiful/ attractive than 18 year old's. I will admit it depends on how well they have taken care of themselves.
@@denpc4238 stay away from the girls,creep
When you both consent but +30 grandma doesn't
“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill,...
I think the "being over 25" is a big if! We often forget later on how young some of the women in imbalanced relationships were when they started and think "Oh, well they're grown adults" -- they might have not been when they were first pursued. Also the real problem imo in age gap relationships are the ways that being older can contribute to power imbalances that can toxic or controlling relationships regardless of gender, such as the older partner using their money in a coercive way
true
the over 25 thing is bullshit at its finest, but yall not ready for that convo
Over 25 is a heck of a number though. Like, I won't argue someone is at full mental maturity at 24, but we just jumped 7 years in the average age of consent there in a casual off-cuff remark. Plenty of 25 and 26 year olds are immature dumbasses too. Hell, I'm 35 and doubt my mental maturity at times, which is yet still somehow higher than my brothers.........at 46.
@@JaydeVerElst It's not a random number - the prefrontal cortex fully develops at age 25
@@JaydeVerElst mental maturity doesn't matter when it comes to these relationships