1:29:44 I’ve been thinking about the Zoo Fiendsmith comparison a lot since we got fiendsmiths and I think it’s a pretty spot-on comparison. Most decks are improved by committing a tiny bit of main deck space and a chunk of the extra deck to slot it in, but that’s nowhere near the same as saying that every deck right now is fiendsmith, it’s just a generic good stuff engine.
What do you mean comparing Ryzeal to Zoodiac ...... They're all 4 star mini engines that turbos out rank 4s, with their boss monster using for board breaking, and can play truck loads of hand trap
2:23:23 - Yep. We did. I forget how quick it was but upon Firewall Dragon being revealed Jeff Jones put out a Plant combo video that showcased what shenanigans you could do with the card. The hypothetical deck never took off but it did show everyone that Firewall was *c-r-a-c-k-e-d* months before it would come here.
I just want to say that I absolutely hate the art on most of the Zoodiac. Rat and Bull most of all just kinda look off. I think it’s the giant gauntlets making them look like their arms are 5 feet long and right up against the camera.
2:12:30 does josh just not know that zoo, metalfoes, dracoslayer, majespecter, true draco, are all part of the same lore and are designed to work together? that series lasted longer than the visas lore.
The zoo cards let you play that bujin card that milled 5 in infernoid. It also detached to protect from pops so it murdered the pure zoo deck, especially going second. It would kill through drident. Loved that deck. Second favorite deck after the true Draco deck that existed after the Master Peace ban where we played the bad 3 tribute. It was crazy against sky strike because the dudes were all so big and plussed one. Remember getting like fourth at a regional before anyone realized it was still good. Some UA-camrs put up my profile then I didn't play it at Nats and found out I was trash at strikers lol
Played Kozmo Zoo to some regional tops back then and you used Kingbear to add one of the 3 big ships back to hand at end of turn that was dumped through Tincan endstep effect. It was awful compared to actual Zoo but Drident + Dark Destroyer was crazy and it was a super fun way to play it.
He didnt mention firewall FTK? Rude. Lol. YCS Toronto, Grandsoil Loop FTK topped. I took the OCG list of it to a regionals the weekend before the banlist, 8-0 ftkd 4 times in last 2 rounds on stream. 3 was firewall loop, 1 was manticore looping on Maxx c challenge. 2 card combo, 14 of 1, 13 of the other, didn't matter which ones, just any. Grandsoil and maxx c were banned that monday.
Snake eye is the worst thing I have experienced in this game, all other “lore archetypes” like branded, Visas and so on have dedicated decks with their one style of play while snake eyes is just one deck that goes everywhere.
Tearlaments is far stronger at full power and was tier 0 as well. Snake-eye is also a lot more splashable as an engine (Azamina, pure, kashtira, rescue-ace, fire-king) so it's really 5 different decks using snake-eye. Snake-eye is still interactive technically. Nothing beats the firewall/gumblar format as the most boring toxic format. Just FTKs (burns, locks, etc.) and nothing else.
Joshua what you thing could be a zoodiac nowdays with all the carda sbanned? Could be a threat, could find its Place in the meta or would be Just highly powercrept as the dragon ruler now unbanned?
Gosh I hated 2016 with passion. But 2017 had two tier zeros in one single eyar. And 18 was so cancer that was the first and only year I stoppe playing this game for a while.
Card idea: D/D/D/D/D/D/D Morse Code Regarding Duel links: Wall of Disruption and the Fur Hire meta was my first connection to duel links. And fucking hell that way annoying. A spell trap negate in Wiz, you can only attack Dyna, and they have WoD set. Yeah GG man...
Links were a mistake, they ruined this game on so many levels being so generic. There's a reason why it is the largest list of cards from the extra deck on the ban list
At least they meant well if u remember they initially thought links would slow down the game a lot until every1 complained tht u couldn't use syncs xyzs wo alink
@DreamsTCG they didn't mean well at all. They did it to force people to play with their new cards and spend more money by making them mandatory. Idgaf if it slowed down the game for like a format. 2018, less than a year later, we hade gouki, summon sorc, pend magicians, and gumblar. So no they didn't slow down shit.
@@DreamsTCG It took less than a year to prove that Links do not slow the game in the slightest they just add 1or 2 extra steps to a 57 step combo deck at best.
Gotta disagree on your branded take. Don't think a single deck should get (good) support for 2 years straight. Fe: fine give them structure, pote, dabl support. But did they really need to get more good cards in phhy and cyac. Why are we making already good decks even stronger. Would definitely prefer if they don't get something after dabl, then they get something in phni fe, then nothing until suda, etc. Tldr. Stop making already strong decks even better for 2 years starting. -Salty rogue player
Ohh yung one... ko💲doesn't care about the balance of the game. They know ppl like Branded=gna buy Branded cards, this has been &will be their main decision maker until the company closes the sooner u accept that the sooner u can decide what you wanna do with the game going forward 💯🙏🖤
I absolutely loathe modern lore decks. World Chalice, Branded, Snake-eye, etc. The lore is so dull and repetitive. It's basically just JRPG stuff over and over again. The old Duel Terminal lore was lame too but I liked it better than this stuff. I don't know, I feel like if this game had been built with lore in mind from the outset then I would be more forgiving on this but it didn't so I don't. Or maybe if they actually did a lore archetype that wasn't just JRPG trash then MAYBE. BTW if you reading this like them, then that's cool. No disrespect meant but I just can't get into them.
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2/3rd of the way there, now i only have to wait for jesse kotton reacting to joshua schmidt reacting to 2017 recap so i can finally watch this
Gotta watch all 3
We need Josh to watch Jesse’s react so that he can respond when Jesse disagrees
Funny how an archetype that was meant to focus on synchro summoning produced the best rank three engine in history. Terrortop did nothing wrong.
1:29:44 I’ve been thinking about the Zoo Fiendsmith comparison a lot since we got fiendsmiths and I think it’s a pretty spot-on comparison. Most decks are improved by committing a tiny bit of main deck space and a chunk of the extra deck to slot it in, but that’s nowhere near the same as saying that every deck right now is fiendsmith, it’s just a generic good stuff engine.
It's hilarious that the set releasing VFD and Master Peace while only exacerbating the Zoo meta was named Maximum Crisis.
15:30 But if you close your eyes! *Cut to Ryzeal*
What do you mean comparing Ryzeal to Zoodiac ......
They're all 4 star mini engines that turbos out rank 4s, with their boss monster using for board breaking, and can play truck loads of hand trap
2:23:23 - Yep. We did. I forget how quick it was but upon Firewall Dragon being revealed Jeff Jones put out a Plant combo video that showcased what shenanigans you could do with the card. The hypothetical deck never took off but it did show everyone that Firewall was *c-r-a-c-k-e-d* months before it would come here.
And then as soon as is dropped at ycs toronto, there was a dino ftk using it. That card was fucked up from the moment it was revealed
In my opinion the lore deck plague really went into overdrive when Vrains ended and they no longer had new anime archtypes
That abc paleo metalfoes format was one of my favorites
I love how animated TheLaw was in this recap too.
Give broadbull a "search a zoodiac" errata konami!
I just want to say that I absolutely hate the art on most of the Zoodiac. Rat and Bull most of all just kinda look off. I think it’s the giant gauntlets making them look like their arms are 5 feet long and right up against the camera.
as a boomer, this was the year where yugioh well and truly died for me
People in Mexico knew the card firewall was cracked at the time remember people opening boxes to get firewall dragon
2:12:30 does josh just not know that zoo, metalfoes, dracoslayer, majespecter, true draco, are all part of the same lore and are designed to work together? that series lasted longer than the visas lore.
yeah true draco was the og lore deck in main sets
Honestly, full powered zoo was probably my favorite meta deck to play. I miss fusion sub koaki zoo.
2:03:36 If Droll could miss timing, you could play around it by activating your search effects as chain link two or higher.
The zoo cards let you play that bujin card that milled 5 in infernoid. It also detached to protect from pops so it murdered the pure zoo deck, especially going second. It would kill through drident. Loved that deck. Second favorite deck after the true Draco deck that existed after the Master Peace ban where we played the bad 3 tribute. It was crazy against sky strike because the dudes were all so big and plussed one. Remember getting like fourth at a regional before anyone realized it was still good. Some UA-camrs put up my profile then I didn't play it at Nats and found out I was trash at strikers lol
Played Kozmo Zoo to some regional tops back then and you used Kingbear to add one of the 3 big ships back to hand at end of turn that was dumped through Tincan endstep effect.
It was awful compared to actual Zoo but Drident + Dark Destroyer was crazy and it was a super fun way to play it.
Weather Painters my Beloved ❤🧡💛💚💙🤍💜
early duel links meta was just dino normal summon? Tea Burn and Three Star Demotion would like a word
the karate-man otk
6:45 someone could make a life point dropping sound with that at 2x speed
He didnt mention firewall FTK? Rude. Lol.
YCS Toronto, Grandsoil Loop FTK topped.
I took the OCG list of it to a regionals the weekend before the banlist, 8-0 ftkd 4 times in last 2 rounds on stream. 3 was firewall loop, 1 was manticore looping on Maxx c challenge.
2 card combo, 14 of 1, 13 of the other, didn't matter which ones, just any.
Grandsoil and maxx c were banned that monday.
Grandsoil Loop FTK? What do you loop with Monster Reborn on legs to FTK?
1st spreadsheet yes, but there were a ton of blueprint playmats in 2011
Yeah, 2017 what a crazy year, I remember Runick Zoodiac, strongest tier 0 of all time
Zoodiacs were a Generic link 1 deck for every monster which could go into any other link 1s in their archetype when links didn’t even exist …
@1:51:07 and THAT is why I took a 3 year break until they fixed the rules back lol
Wall of D actually released almost a year into duel links real old heads remember windstorm of etaqua
This is my favorite era I got my first YCS top with ww invoked Kaiju at YCS Denver
1:20:41 Is there any way to use Zefraath's extra Pendulum summon profitably?
2:36:39 Joshua is thinking of Hanewata. I'm still curious why Watapon was in that side deck though.
Snake eye is the worst thing I have experienced in this game, all other “lore archetypes” like branded, Visas and so on have dedicated decks with their one style of play while snake eyes is just one deck that goes everywhere.
Mannadium tear is pretty much that concept as well
Tearlaments is far stronger at full power and was tier 0 as well. Snake-eye is also a lot more splashable as an engine (Azamina, pure, kashtira, rescue-ace, fire-king) so it's really 5 different decks using snake-eye. Snake-eye is still interactive technically.
Nothing beats the firewall/gumblar format as the most boring toxic format. Just FTKs (burns, locks, etc.) and nothing else.
@@wodidia I’m happy I didn’t experience that yu gi oh I was gone from 2015-2022😂
At everytime ppl complain about current game, saying it was better before. You're not so deep.
@@harkyz4439 alright, the game has always been shit 🤷🏻♂️ also, I am way more deep than you are, blockhead.
Remember topping a regional with the infernoid deck and losing 8 dice rolls. It otk'd like no one's business
Zoodiac was Crazy .. was the time I entered Meta Gaming Cause I pulled a Barrage on Sneak .. My wallet still crying since
Damn we need some felgrand support😭😭😭
I want Fellgrant Dragon Support so badly
One of my favorite eras in ygo tbh .. miss zoo sm lol
code of the duelist is such a funny set literally just evil cards all over
Bruh how were there 2 YCS's in a year in Prague of all places... AND 0 SINCE.
42:14 You're forgiven, you're also maining Mirror Force.
Josh should see the law ygos duel links history series
Battle traps were nuts early duel links 😂😂
Joshua what you thing could be a zoodiac nowdays with all the carda sbanned? Could be a threat, could find its Place in the meta or would be Just highly powercrept as the dragon ruler now unbanned?
Gosh I hated 2016 with passion. But 2017 had two tier zeros in one single eyar. And 18 was so cancer that was the first and only year I stoppe playing this game for a while.
I love wall of disruption and wind of etiqua
2017 the year I left and now I’m back
I fuse my D/D/D, my D/D/D AND my D/D/D to summon D/D/D/D/D/D/D/D/D
Why nobody covered dark synchro
I love Norden got banned because people summoned him as intended.
Lithosagym see's play still, in My Dino Deck.😅
metalfoe zoo was so much fun
D/D/D was not good, but it was playable under master rule because of all the revive from the GY. You did not need many links
Card idea: D/D/D/D/D/D/D Morse Code
Regarding Duel links: Wall of Disruption and the Fur Hire meta was my first connection to duel links. And fucking hell that way annoying. A spell trap negate in Wiz, you can only attack Dyna, and they have WoD set. Yeah GG man...
I like MR4 as a concept, wouldn't mind them going back to it, just being more careful with card design which is coping mad hard
Links are fundamentally broken because they get stuff in rotation for free
These ultras were nice
There is no reason to keep Broadbull banned.
THREE HOURS????
Give me more zoodiac support
Gosh I forgot about Twilightsworn... now I'm bummed, such a waste of a cool idea and great art
Windwitch invoke artifact was a good deck
Links were a mistake, they ruined this game on so many levels being so generic. There's a reason why it is the largest list of cards from the extra deck on the ban list
At least they meant well if u remember they initially thought links would slow down the game a lot until every1 complained tht u couldn't use syncs xyzs wo alink
@DreamsTCG they didn't mean well at all. They did it to force people to play with their new cards and spend more money by making them mandatory. Idgaf if it slowed down the game for like a format. 2018, less than a year later, we hade gouki, summon sorc, pend magicians, and gumblar. So no they didn't slow down shit.
That cause the community forced a master rule change if it stayed the same the game woulda stayed slow@@aka_Ingmar
@@DreamsTCG It took less than a year to prove that Links do not slow the game in the slightest they just add 1or 2 extra steps to a 57 step combo deck at best.
@DreamsTCG lol the game got faster my dude. It was "slowed down" for like 3 months and then sorc and other stuff came out
2017 was the year my dad finally told me the truth.
“Son, you’re adopted”
Son, you aren’t my kid.
I'm your mother
@6:03 don't do humor, you're German.
TRUE DRACO ARE COOL?!?!?!?! stop that.
ZOODIAC
Gotta disagree on your branded take. Don't think a single deck should get (good) support for 2 years straight. Fe: fine give them structure, pote, dabl support. But did they really need to get more good cards in phhy and cyac. Why are we making already good decks even stronger. Would definitely prefer if they don't get something after dabl, then they get something in phni fe, then nothing until suda, etc.
Tldr. Stop making already strong decks even better for 2 years starting.
-Salty rogue player
Ohh yung one... ko💲doesn't care about the balance of the game. They know ppl like Branded=gna buy Branded cards, this has been &will be their main decision maker until the company closes the sooner u accept that the sooner u can decide what you wanna do with the game going forward 💯🙏🖤
prewashed
first?
I absolutely loathe modern lore decks. World Chalice, Branded, Snake-eye, etc. The lore is so dull and repetitive. It's basically just JRPG stuff over and over again. The old Duel Terminal lore was lame too but I liked it better than this stuff. I don't know, I feel like if this game had been built with lore in mind from the outset then I would be more forgiving on this but it didn't so I don't. Or maybe if they actually did a lore archetype that wasn't just JRPG trash then MAYBE. BTW if you reading this like them, then that's cool. No disrespect meant but I just can't get into them.
BASED take. It's cool if you never got into jrpgs but it's generic af imo
Wym old terminal world lore was lame?
ah, the year konami introducing the mistakes era.
the vrain era